sndu : one thing i wish i knew when i was in college
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A presentation from the student sessions preceding the Society for News Design annual workshop in Louisville, KY. Nov. 7, 2013TRANSCRIPT

“You either make
an effort or you don’t.
...
You’re a musician:
You play.
That’s what you do.”LOU REED1942-2013R.I.P.
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Steve Dorsey
@Dorsey
Thursday, November 7, 13

‘Prepare in School to be Ready for the Job Market’
STEVE DORSEY
Thursday, November 7, 13

Q: What’s the ONE THING you wish someone told you when you were in college?STEVE DORSEY + FRIENDS
*(More than 2 centuries of collected experience)
Thursday, November 7, 13

Ground rules...
@Dorsey #SNDU
Thursday, November 7, 13

#Whatstheonethingyouwishsomeonetoldyouwhenyouwereincollege?
@Dorsey #SNDU
GROUND RULESWhat’s our hashtag?
Thursday, November 7, 13

#Wt1tUwstUwUwic?
GROUND RULESWhat’s our hashtag?
@Dorsey #SNDU
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#onething
GROUND RULESWhat’s our hashtag?
@Dorsey #SNDU
Thursday, November 7, 13

#SNDU #onething
GROUND RULESWhat’s our hashtag?
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
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We’re going to move fast. Lots of ground to cover.
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
GROUND RULESPace?
Thursday, November 7, 13

Just ‘Steve.’ Unless on : @Dorsey
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
GROUND RULESSay my name...
Thursday, November 7, 13

No Steve Jobs quotes!
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
GROUND RULESQuote-free zone!
Thursday, November 7, 13

No Henry Ford quotes!
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
GROUND RULESQuote-free zone!
Thursday, November 7, 13

Basics. Fundamentals.
Design [email protected] #SNDU #onething
GROUND RULESThis session is NOT...
Thursday, November 7, 13

TimHarrower.comLynda.com
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
GROUND RULESFor design theory + basics:
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Side projects
and hobbies
are important.”
AUSTIN KLEON
@austinkleon
Writer, artist, speaker, innovator
Steal Like An Artist Newspaper Blackout NEW: Show Your Work!
Austin, TX
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Thursday, November 7, 13

http://austinkleon.com/2011/03/30/how-to-steal-like-an-artist-and-9-other-things-nobody-told-me/
TEDx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oww7oB9rjgw
Creative Mornings/Austin: http://vimeo.com/65988589
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
GROUND RULESBonus!
PRIZES!
There will be PRIZES!
(Sorry, there will NOT be Daniel Day Lewis. You’re stuck with me.)
Thursday, November 7, 13

Q: First student to arrive this morning?Q: Student who traveled the farthest? Q: First question asked?Q: First student business card given?
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
GROUND RULES#ThereWillBeSwag
Thursday, November 7, 13

Q: What’s the ONE THING you wish someone told you when you were in college?STEVE DORSEY + FRIENDS
*(More than 2 centuries of collected experience)
Thursday, November 7, 13

Thursday, November 7, 13

Practice your pitch!
“Why you should hire
me” in 90 second...
Ready. Set. GO!
JOY MAYER
@mayerjoy
University of Missouri-Columbia
Director of community outreach at the Columbia Missourian
Associate professor at the Missouri School of Journalism
[email protected] #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

http://joymayer.com/2012/10/16/marketing-yourself-whats-
the-story-of-your-journalism/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTiz5zBa7GA#t=41
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
JOY MAYER
@mayerjoy
University of Missouri-Columbia
Director of community outreach at the Columbia Missourian
Associate professor at the Missouri School of Journalism
JoyMayer.com
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Listen well.
Speak up.
Try new things.”
JOE GRIMM
@newsrecruiter
U-M (although he bleeds MSU green now)
Visiting editor in residents, Michigan State University
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Thursday, November 7, 13

“Taking French 101 and 102 doesn’t make
you ready to translate at the U.N. Classes
just introduce students to technique and
theory and it’s up to the student to take
that and run with it.”
KARL GUDE
@karlgude
Graphics Editor in Residence at Michigan State University (and former Director of Information Graphics at Newsweek and the AP)
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Stop worrying about what it is that you
think you can and can’t do. Very few
people are truly qualified for the jobs they
have (apologies in advance to everyone at
this conference that I’ve just offended).
They were just the ones brave enough to
raise their hands and say ‘I can do that.’
You can always figure it out as you go.”
EMMET SMITH
@emmetsmith
Ball State University
Curation Lead, The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“In college, don’t strive to be like the big
paper nearby. Strive to be better than the
big paper at the things they don’t know yet.
Ask yourself, what’s that look like now?
Answer that with your work, and you’ll
improve your chances of getting hired.”
KEVIN WEDNT
@kwendt
Northern Illinois University. GO HUSKIES!
Director of News and Opinion, Advance Digital
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“I wish I had taken a
course on the highs
and lows of the
human condition.”
DR. MARIO GARCIA
@DrMarioRGarcia
University of South Florida (1969)CEO/Founder, Garcia Media
Blog: The Mario Blog (garciamedia.com/blog)
eBook: iPad Design [email protected] #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Do whatever you can
to get an internship.”DARREN SANEFSKI
@dsanefski
Syracuse University grad
Assistant Professor of Multiple Platform Journalism, University of Mississippi
SND education [email protected] #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Get. An.
Internship.”
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
DARREN SANEFSKI
@dsanefski
Syracuse University grad
Assistant Professor of Multiple Platform Journalism, University of Mississippi
SND education director
Thursday, November 7, 13

“That nobody cares what you think.
They only care what you can do or
show them. Newsrooms, when they
function well, are meritocracies
and if you have a great idea, great
design, great story, that will get you
farther than your opinion.”
STEVE CAVENDISH
@scavendish
Belmont College grad
News editor, critic at Nashville Scene and Nashville Post
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“This is the time to explore
every boundary. Once you
get there go farther. Don’t
respect the institution if
you know it’s flawed - find
a way to improve it.”
CARLOS AYULO
@ayulo
University of New Mexico
Assistant Managing Editor / PresentationSt. Louis Post-Dispatch
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“I wish somebody had told me to be open-minded
about where good design was coming from. When I was
a student, we let the SND annuals dictate the best
designs to us, and consequently, our paper often looked
like a bunch of college hacks were trying to recreate the
best work in the world. And even if we HAD been able to
do that (we weren’t), we still would have been limiting
our influences to whatever made the annuals...”
JOSH CRUTCHMER
@jcrutchmer
Oklahoma State University (BA, Journalism, 2001)
Deputy Design Director, Buffalo News
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“You probably really don’t need to go to
college for journalism if you hustle and can
teach yourself technology. Your professors
are learning things 2 weeks before they
teach it to you. (I say this having taught
and having a lot of friends who now
teach.) ... Go to college for something else,
and do journalism at the college paper or
other local media outlets. It’s more of a
trade than an academic craft.”
WILL SULLIVAN
@journerdism
University of Toledo and Northwestern University
Global Mobile Lead for the Broadcasting Board of Governors
[email protected] #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Don’t get pigeon-
holed. Develop skills in
all areas if you want to
survive in the real
world. ... RICHARD JOHNSON
@newsillustrator
Duncan of Jordanstone, Dundee University, Scotland
Senior Graphics Editor, Washington Post
newsillustrator.com
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Oh and don’t eat the
worm at the bottom of
a Tequila bottle.”
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Don’t get laser-focused on your field of
choice. Take a wide range of classes in
different fields, especially ones different
from your own. ... It also means [taking]
things like philosophy, psychology,
business/entrepreneurship, computer
science, linguistics, neuroscience, modern
art and poetry, screenwriting, [and so on].”
GREG LINCH
@greglinch
University of Miami (FL)
Local Innovations Editor, The Washington Post
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
MAD JOURNALISM with Greg Linch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4pDApk7c8Y
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Don’t worry as much
about money in your career.
It will come eventually.
Stay focused on your work
and what drives you.
That’s most important.”
JOEY MARBURGER
@josephjames
Purdue University
Director of Digital Products and Design at The Washington Post
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“To sketch more. To make
more. To think more about
process and less about the
destination, whatever that
may be. To put a lot of
energy toward becoming a
well-rounded person, too.
To read more. A lot more.”
JULIE ELMAN
BFA in commercial design, University of Dayton (Dayton, Ohio)MFA in photography, Ohio University (Athens, Ohio)
Associate Professor (School of Visual Communication, Ohio University, Athens, Ohio)
SND print publications [email protected] #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Be bold in everything you do
(your work, applying for jobs,
networking). When I’m hiring
designers, I look at talent and
potential as much as previous
experience. So don’t let those lines
like ‘3-5 years experience’ scare you
off. Apply and see what happens.”
JON WILE
Kent State University ... Home of the Golden Flashes!
Creative Director, American City Business Journals
I currently have designer openings in Washington, Baltimore and San Francisco. I oversee the design, graphics and photography in 43 markets around the country, so we constantly have openings.
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“I spent too much time wishing I was perceived
as one of the super star kids in my program, and
looking back, it was a total waste of energy.
The secret to my success has been to work hard,
be nice to people and commit to continuous self-
driven education. ... Worry less about being in the
cool crowd, and you’ll go farther than you think.”
KYLE ELLIS
@kyleellis
The Harvard of Muncie, Indiana ... THE Ball State University
Designer, CNN DigitalSND Digital Director
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

INTERMISSIONInterview lightening round
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Be specific,
give examples.
INTERMISSIONInterview lightening round
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Think in terms
of sound bites.
INTERMISSIONInterview lightening round
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Listen, listen, LISTEN!...
INTERMISSIONInterview lightening round
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Good answers lead
to conversations.
INTERMISSIONInterview lightening round
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Resume > conversation > interview > offer
INTERMISSIONInterview lightening round
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Feedback/critique/coaching > reference >
next job > network > rinse + repeat...
Thursday, November 7, 13

Come with 3 cohesive
talking points.
INTERMISSIONInterview lightening round
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Come with 3
real questions.
INTERMISSIONInterview lightening round
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Know something about
the org you’re talking to.
INTERMISSIONInterview lightening round
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Mentioning a project?
Show it, link it.
INTERMISSIONInterview lightening round
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“I wish I had learned more about how to deal
with interoffice dynamics. So much of my
success or failure here is not determined by how
great my design idea is — but by how I interact
with staffers who report to me, and those who
rank higher than me. It is determined by how I
deal with those who do not report to me, but
whom I still need to listen to me and do what I
ask them to. Being able to connect with such a
variety of different colleagues... is critical to the
final outcome of my work.”
RICK EPPS
@repps
Michigan State University
Presentation Editor, The Detroit News
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Learn a foreign
language —
fluently.
It’s even more
important now.”
WAYNE KAMIDOI
@waynekamidoi
Central Michigan University
Art director, The New York Times
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Join SND. Or ONA. Or NPPA. Whatever
your thing is. Go to their events and
introduce yourself to people. Every job
offer I’ve had since college has been
because of contacts I’ve made through
SND and I am envious of
college students who are smart enough
to have already figured that out.”
KENNEY MARLATT
@kenney
DePauw University
Editor/Designer, Chicago Tribune
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“... That I could make a living
designing communication as
an independent consultant.
I was always afraid that I
would end up in an advertising
agency designing ads for a
wholesale grocery.”
HANS PETER JANISCH
Fachhochschule Mainz / Germany (University of applied sciences)Diplom-Designer (Master of Arts nowadays)job
Design Consultant to the newspaper industry
[email protected] #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“When I was a college student, I thought
somehow my talent would just show the
way to a great job and that I didn’t need
to use connections. I was, of course,
ridiculously wrong. Ultimately a friend
who graduated a year before gave me
the connection that led to my first job.
My first boss went a long way toward
getting me my second and third jobs.
Connections are everything! So they’ve
come to the right place to connect.”
ROB SCHNEIDER
@schneiderSND
Northeast Missouri State University (now called Truman State University)
Presentation Director, The Dallas Morning News
SND [email protected] #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“The transition from a college newsroom to a
professional newsroom is often not easy: 1. In college,
you’re surrounded by people your age with similar
interests. You put the paper to bed and often hit the
bars... It’s a blast. When you jump to a professional
newsroom, it can be jarring. Many people are older,
have kids, grandkids, a mortgage and college tuition
to pay for. They go home after work because they
need to get their kids ready for school in the early
morning. The social aspect can be very tough,
especially if you work nights and weekends.
RYAN HILDEBRANDT
@ryanwesley29
Indiana University
Creative Director, Louisville Design Studio
SND Louisville conference chair
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“... 2. In college you have freedom to mostly do
what you want. It’s easier to experiment and
innovate, because you don’t have so many
institutional rules and traditions. I thought I’d walk
into my first job and find that everyone was a
veteran, top-notch journalist who pushed the
limits of our industry. I thought everyone would lap
me in knowledge and skill. It took me a while to
realize there were a few people like that, but most
folks were reluctant and uncomfortable to think
beyond ‘That’s the way we’ve always done it.’ ” ...
RYAN HILDEBRANDT
@ryanwesley29
Indiana University
Creative Director, Louisville Design Studio
SND Louisville conference chair
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Career building is about maturity: how
you work with others, how you handle
criticism and disappointment. I took
things way too personally as a young
professional and probably cost myself
some opportunities because of that.”
STEPHEN KOMIVES
@skomives
Columbia University
Executive Director, Society for News Design
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“I wish someone had told
me how nice and helpful
(most) professionals can
be. Want some advice/to
figure out how your idol got
where they are? Ask them.
They’ll probably tell you.”
KATIE MYRICK
@myrick
Indiana University (RIP Ernie Pyle School of Journalism)
News designer at The Washington Post and editor of snd.org
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“If you just do class work, you’re screwed.
I wish I had used class work to feed my own
ideas instead of worrying about completing
the given assignment. Class assignments often
remove the most important part of design work:
conceiving of the problem — not just solving it.
Use class work to seed your ideas, but make the
ideas yours. When we look at portfolios we don’t
care if the applicant followed the assignment (or
what grade the professor gave you); we care
about great ideas, and great looking design.”
JARED NOVACK
@jarednova
The Daily Orange + Syracuse University
Partner at Upstatement
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Don’t marry your high
school sweetheart, but
that’s probably not what
you’re after. I went to art
school. They didn’t teach
me how to make a living,
but I did learn how to think.”
TIM FRANK
@tmfrnk
The Cleveland Institute of Art
Director, Gannett's Asbury Park Design Studio
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“Take risks, do what you love.
You’ll be surprised how much of
what you love doing in college will
guide you to things you love in your
career. You have a lifetime to figure
out your life, live your days with
honesty, integrity and inspiration.
Oh and, fake it til you make it.”
NINA MEHTA
@ninamehta
Indiana University, B.A.J. JournalismB.A. Political ScienceM.S. Human-Computer Interaction design
Product Designer, Pivotal Labs
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“It’s okay to take criticism with a grain of
salt, but there are times you should do the
same with praise. If praise is coming from
someone who hands it out like candy, is it
really meaningful? On the flip side, it’s fine
to question someone who does nothing
but criticize as well. You have to have
balance – the most valuable critiques I
received included someone who could
point out things that I did well and
encourage me, and also make suggestions
as to things I could improve on.”
ANDREA ZAGATA
@zagatam
Michigan State University
Sports designer, The Buffalo News
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Two things, actually, but they’re
two sides of the same coin:
1. “If you wanna be creative,
you gotta bend the rules.”
2. “If you’re not having fun,
you’re not doing it right.”
TIM HARROWER
@TimHarrower
Eastern Michigan University
TimHarrower.com
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“How to do a proposal and job estimate
for a client (super important!) and
unfortunately most of the schools tend
to forget about the business aspect in our
professions! And also super important:
how to do your taxes!!! Especially when
you have income from 3 or 4 different
countries tax forms are a pain to fill! And
yes, I’m stubborn and always do taxes
myself, not with any accounting guy! :)”
GABRIELA SCHMIDT
@GabiSchmidt
Fine Arts and Design Institute in Mexico City
Senior Creative Director at Schmidt Media Group
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“What you study matters, and who you know matters even more. Take
classes in philosophy, math, statistics and business. Get to know the
people in college who will become future leaders.
And also, find someone in your industry who’s older and wiser, and who
you’d count as a competitor. Take that person out to lunch. It’s highly
likely that you’ll have much to learn from her, and that likewise she’ll
have a lot to learn from you. Build a partnership, where you share ideas
with each other, ask questions, and build a mutually beneficial
relationship. Befriending your competition and developing a pathway
to strengthen both businesses is what some of the most successful
entrepreneurs are doing today. It may seem counterintuitive, but I keep
seeing young entrepreneurs pair off with seasoned businesswomen
and men. It's also something I practice myself.”
AMY WEBB
@webbmedia
Jacobs School - (the music conservatory at Indiana University)
Founder & CEO, Webbmedia GroupCo-founder, Spark CampAuthor, Slate columnist, Harvard Business Review contributor, [email protected] #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“I wish I’d been more involved with journalists
and professionals at my hometown paper and
in the industry. I didn't think I would ever work
for a newspaper, so I wasn't interested in
internships. I had to learn the hard way that
real-world experience will always be useful.
Making connections with people who can
become colleagues, mentors or job references
will pay off for the rest of your career (even if
it's not in journalism), so start early!”
MELISSA ANGLE
@mangle
Wichita State University, 2002
Projects editor, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“You can still have a great, fruitful
career in journalism even if you
can’t get a gig at the school paper.
(I applied five times.) You just
have to hustle and you have to
know when to speak up. Your ideas
will win people over. And you can
create those ideas yourself.”
ERNIE SMITH
@stoicboy
Michigan State University
Editor, ShortFormBlog
Social Media Journalist, McMURRY/TMG
ShortFormBlog.tumblr.com
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“...my major, my grades, and in general
figuring out what I wanted to do didn’t really
matter. My friend Jack Cheng said it best:
‘You can’t connect the dots looking forward;
you can only connect them looking backwards.
So you have to trust that the dots will somehow
connect in your future.’
Don't worry if you're in the middle of a moment
that you think is taking you nowhere.”
BILL COUCH
@couch
University of Michigan2007 Bachelor of Arts, Screen Arts and Cultures, Communications
Product Engineer at Twitter
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

“The industry will
change… a LOT!
Just be prepared
to adapt your skills
and change with it
and you’ll be fine!”
JENNIFER GEORGE PALILONIS
Ball State University, BA, MA; Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis, PhD
George & Frances Ball Distinguished Professor of Multimedia Journalism
@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

@Dorsey #SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Worry more
about facts
than fonts.
STEVE DORSEY
@dorsey
#SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Be bold.
Swing hard.STEVE DORSEY
@dorsey
#SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Drive it
like it’s
stolen.
STEVE DORSEY
@dorsey
#SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Do epic sh*t. STEVE DORSEY
@dorsey
#SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13

Thursday, November 7, 13

#SNDU #onething
Thursday, November 7, 13