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Some Thoughts about Stain and Discoloration in Wood By Bob Rice The University of Maine

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Some Thoughts about Stain and Discoloration in Wood

ByBob Rice

The University of Maine

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Stachybotrys- Black Mold

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Causes of Discoloration in Wood

• Fungal Stains (mold, mildew, sapstains like bluestain)

• Bacterial infection (decay, rot)

• Enzymatic (gray, some brown, etc)

• Other (chemical, gum and resin pockets, mineral stain, iron stain )

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Conditions for Mold, Stain, Decay

• Must have entry site • Air/oxygen• Temperature (best: 65-95F)• Must have water • Must have food source

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How to Make a Bad Problem Worse

• Time• Temperature• Water/water vapor

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Recognizing Bluestain

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Water and Fungi

0.91 - 0.94Stachybotrys

0.90 - 0.93Rhizopus

0.78 - 0.86Penicillium

0.90 - 0.94Mucor

0.86 - 0.91Fusarium

0.85 - 0.88Cladosporium

0.71 - 0.94Aspergillus

0.85 - 0.88Alternaria

Water Activity (RH)Fungus

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Control of Mold, Stain, Decay

• Dry wood (Average less than 22%)

• Poison food source

• Apply fungicide or bactericide to surfaces

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Surface Treatments are only intended to work for a short period of time. They are not

permanent cures

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Fungal Spores Remain Viable Even When Dried

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Making Fungus Work For You-Denim Pine

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Denim Pine Tabletop

Sigh….

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Enzymatic and Chemical Stains or “is that lumber really

pink…?”

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Enzymatic Stains• Light gray, or pink; surface may look dirty when

gray

• Usually seen after kiln drying

• Oxalic acid will lighten or remove gray stain

• Sodium Hydroxide will remove pink.

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Make Beer and Whiskey With Enzymes, Not Gray Stain or

Enzymatic Brown.

Rules for kiln operators: #1

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How to Make a Bad Problem Worse

• Time• Temperature• Water/water vapor

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Shades of Gray I

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Shades of Gray II

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Some Brown Stain is a Chemical Stain not Enzymatic

• Chemical concentration required at surface which occurs during drying

• Re-wet and re-dry also concentrates chemicals on surfaces and just below surfaces

• The role of temperature (“Maillard”reaction)

• The role of nitrogen

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Brown Stain Under a Microscope

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Also Maillard Reaction

• Toast• Malted barley for

whiskey• Seared meat • Self tanning products• Bread Crust

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Enzymatic Browning; Not MaillardReaction

• Caramel for candy• Maple syrup• Chocolate• Fruit turns brown• Oxygen and low moisture key

issues.

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Brown Stain in Service

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Two Miscellaneous Cases

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Mineral

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Iron Tannate Stain

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Cleaning Wood Surfaces and Removing Mold

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Cleaners Only Remove Mold from the Surface, Not Below the Surface

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TSP-Trisodium Phosphate

• Will not remove mildew in most cases• Cleans surfaces, removes some paints, dulls

glaze• May darken some species

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Acids

• Phosphoric• Oxalic (Wood Bleach)• Citric• Hydrochloric

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Phosphoric Acid

• Strong wood bleach• May discolor wood• Not environmentally safe in high

concentrations. • Not recommended.

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Hydrochloric Acid

• Strong wood bleach• May discolor wood• Weakens wood even in low concentrations. • Not recommended (note pool cleaners may

be solutions of weak hydrochloric acid).

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Citric Acid

• Weak cleaner• May require multiple treatments• Will not remove tough stains or mold• Cheap and sold in increasing

quantities

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Oxalic Acid• Strong wood bleach• May discolor wood• Takes about 20 minutes to remove stains

and graying• Four ounces per gallon or five percent

solution• Removes mold, mildew etc.• Stains and graying will return.

More……

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Disodium Peroxydicarbonate • “Deck Brightener”• Sodium percarbonate in active ingredient• Forms hydrogen peroxide when reacting

with water. • Works well for mold and some stain

removal• Eye and skin irritant

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Chlorine Bleach

• Works well for mold and mildew and dirt removal

• Prevents mold growth for one or two weeks • Affects lignin in wood causing degrade if

strong.• Use less than one cup per gallon water• Vapors can be irritant

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Bob Rice119 Nutting HallUniversity of MaineOrono, ME 04469