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SONYA COMPETITIVE [ETERNAL CONFLICT PATCH] BY HYPNO67
Sonya Competitive [Eternal Conflict patch]By:hypno67LastUpdated:Jul2,2015
Sonya BUILD: Teamfight / mobility
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Hi,mynameishypno,I'mfrenchandI'vebeenplayingDota2for3years(5.6kmmr)andHOTSfor8monthsnow.I'vemanagedtohitrank1,mostlyplayingSonyainsoloqueuebeforetheKael'Thaspatch.
I'vedecidedtomakethisbecausesincethepatch,IthinkSonyaisinareallygoodplaceandIhaven'tseenasinglegood/properguideforher.Shedeservesmoreattentionandthat'swhyi'mgonnagiveitashot.
IchosetonotgotoodeepindetailsaboutthemapsandgeneralstrategiesasIfeelthisisntspecifictoSonya,butaboutthegameoverallandthereareplentyguidesforthatalready.
TableofContents
1. HeroAbilities2. Talentbreakdown3. lvl4:HurricaneorFocusedAttack?4. Shieldsusages5. WhatSonyaisgoodat6. Othersbuildsforfun7. WhynotFocusedAttack/FollowThrough?
(Q)AncientSpearCooldown:13seconds
Sonya'sclosegapability.Itwillbemorepowerfullthroughoutthegameaswewillputtalentsintoit.Ifyouwanttoinitatewithit,makesuretohityourtargetasthedamageandthe+40furyisreallyimportant.Ifyoumiss,staybackandwaitforittobebackup.Oncelvl13,becarefulasitwillpullyoutothelocationevenifitmisses.Ononehanditisreallygoodasitallowsyoutoescapebutontheother
(W)SeismicSlamCooldown:1second
Thisisyourmaindamageability.Don'tbeafraidtotradehits1v1withthisasyouwillmostlikelywintheduel.Ifyoudon'thaveanytroublestickingtoyourtarget,youshouldn'twasteanyfuryon Whirlwindasitdoeslessdamagethanthis.
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hand:ifyoumissyourtarget,youwillmostlikelybeintroubleasitwon'tgiveyouanything.Sofocusonhitingit,practicemakesperfect.Keepinmindthatyoushouldn'talwaysuseittoinitiateandinsteadsaveittocatchuptoyourtargetafterhisescapeability.CheckWhatSonyaisgoodattoknowmore.
(E)WhirlwindCooldown:4seconds
Overallreallygoodtoclearcamps/minionwaveswhilehealingyouup(lessthanitusedtobutstillpretygood)Don'tforgetthehealisdoubledonheroes,soifyouseeapackof3enemiesstuckinamoshpit,goforit.Youshoulduseittoclosegaptoyourtarget(with Hurricanetalent).Assoonas1)youareontopofitand2)youhaveenoughfuryforaslam,cancelit(bypressingEagain)sothecooldownstartsassoonaspossibleandgivesyoumoreslow/rootdispelswiththisunderatedtalent.
(Trait)Fury
Neverforgetthatitgrants+10%movementspeedfor4secondsafteryouuseanyability.Whenyougetchased,don'thesitatetouse Whirlwindjustforthisbuff.Unfortunatelyitdoesn'tgiveyoumorefuryifyouhitharderwithautoattacks(always+6fury/hit).
(R)Leap (R)WrathoftheBerserker
Thesewillbeexplainedinthetalentbreakdown.
NoThesustainitgivesinlaneandforcampscanbenice,butitiscompletelyuselessinteamfightunlessyouhaveothersautoattacktalents( FocusedAttackand FollowThrough)whichisn'tviablequiteyetinmyopinion.
NoTobehonest,yoursurvabilityisfineearlygame(beforelvl10).ItriedthistalentalotandIdon'tthinkithasasmuchimpactas ShotofFurydoes.Ialsodon'tliketalentsyoucan'tcontrol,butifyoufindsuccesswiththis,goforit.
NoThistalentismeantifyouplanontaking AngerManagementlvl20andallowsyoutostoreallthatfuryyougeneratewithit.Butyoucan'taffordtotakeit,aswe'llseebelow.
YesThebesttalenthereforsure.Allowsyoutocontrolyourburst,anditisjusttooannoyingtoplaywithoutitonceyouareusedtoit.Italsohasmanytacticaluses:CheckWhatSonyaisgoodatformoreinfo.
Formoreinfoaboutwhattogethere,see:lvl4:HurricaneorFocusedAttack?
YesGivesaburstasyouinitiate,notthatstrongitselfbutsincethisistheonlytalentherethataddsdamageonasingletarget,Itendtotakeitmoreover ShatteredGroundwhen Hurricaneisn'trequired.
NoInateamfight,youwillrarelygetmuchvalueoutofthistalentunlessyouhaveagoodsetupforitlike Kerrigan'sComboorE.T.C's MoshPit.Sothistalentisonlygoodforclearingwaves/mercenariescampswhichyoudon'thaveanyproblemtodoalready.
Yes
YourworstnightmareasSonyaisgettingkitted.Thistalentallowsyoutosticktoyourtargetandmakeitunabletorun,andthen,dodamagetoyou.Sincetherearesomanyslowsinthegame,thisisthegototalent,unlessyoudon'tneedit(checknextparttoknowmore).SomewouldsaythathavingCCreductionfrom WrathoftheBerserkerisenough.Idisagree,removingaslow/root
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instantlycanmakethedifference.
CanworkThistalentisveryinteresting,asitallowsSonyatosolobossonceyou'vereachedlvl10withWrathoftheBerserker.Eventhoughitcanbeeffectiveinsoloqueue,it'snotreallyworthitinhighlevelplaywhereyouneedasmuchteamfightpresenceasyoucan.
NoThistalentrecievedanicebuffinthelastpatch,itaddsmoredamagesasyouinitiate.However,with
WrathoftheBerserkeryoualreadyhaveenoughdamage.Andtherangeincreaseonthespearisbetter.
Yes
Itwasalreadymyfirstchoicewhenthiswasatlvl13.Thisisjusttoogood(+30%isalot).Combinedwiththedefensivecapabilityitgiveswith MysticalSpearlvl13,thistalentisagoodbalancebetweenoffenseanddefense.Again,yourgoalwithSonyaistosticktoyourtargetandthishelpesquitealot.Btw,Idon'trecomendusingquickcastforabilitieslikethiswheretherangechangesinthecourseofthegame,asitiskindofdisturbinggoingfromonegametoanother.
NoIt'sgoodintheorysinceyoualwaysdoonehitbetweenyourslams.Butifyouarelookingformoredamage, PoisonedSpearisbetterasIexplainwhyhere:WhynotFocusedAttack/FollowThrough?
NoThisusedtobedecentbuttherearejustbetterchoicesatthistierand+10%healthfor20furyisn'tenough.
No
Leapistoounreliabletomakeitwork.Mostofthetime,ifyouwantinitation/lockdown,youbettergowith Tyraeland Judgment.ThemajordifferencebetweenthoseheroicsisthatLeapAOEStunswhileJudgementpushesothersaway.However,I'venoticedthat90%ofthetime,youactuallyuseLeaptocatchuptoonetargetonly.Also,Ifyoutakeleap,youwilllackalotofdamage,duetonothaving WrathoftheBerserker.Inthatcase,youwillhavetocompensatebygetting
PoisonedSpearand FuriousBlowlvl16insteadof NervesofSteelyoualsodesperatelyneed.Intheend,youlosewaytoomuchbytakingthis(andIhaven'teventalkaboutthelossofthe50%CCreduction WrathoftheBerserkergivesyet....)So,ifyourplanistoLeapanddie,goforit!!Untilthereisn'tsomethingsimilartoE.T.C's ShowStopper,forgetit.
Yes
Theonlydamagetalentyouget,buttheonlyoneyouneed.Theuptimeonthisisinsanebecauseaslongasyougeneratefury,thedurationincreases.That'salsoagoodreasontotake ShotofFuryasitcangiveyoutheextratimeyouneedtoreachateamfightafteramerccampforexample.The50%CCreductionisreallygood...Ihavenothingelsetosayaboutthisthanthisisjustinsanelygoodonadamagehero(nowonder Illidaniscrazylategamewith DemonicForm)
OnethingIliketosaywhenpeopleaskmewhyItake WrathoftheBerserkerover Leapisthis:On Illidan,whywouldyouevertake TheHuntover Metamorphosis?IacknowledgethatTheHuntisabitdifferentthanLeapandJudgementasitismeanttobeusedasasplitpushability,butyousimplycan'tplaytheherowithout Metamorphosisandthat'sthesamethingaboutSonyawithout WrathoftheBerserker.
Also, WrathoftheBerserkerisn'tanALLINheroiclike Leapis.Itmeansthatyoudon'thavetocomit100%whenyougoin.YoucanpokewithSpear+1/2slam(s)thengetout,waitabitandgobackinwhichincreasesdrasticallyyoursurvability.
No Thehealincreaseisnice,butoveralladefensivetalentwhichgetoutclassedby MysticalSpear.
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NoThistalentishereincaseyouwanttotake FuriousBlowatlvl16,whichyoucan'taffordaswe'llseebelow. ShotofFuryshouldbeenoughtosolveanyfuryissues.
YesThedefensiceESCAPEyoudesperatelyneed.Withtheadditionnalrangefrom CompositeSpear,itactuallyallowsyoutoSpearout+mountinsomesituationswhereyouwouldn'tbeabletowithoutit.TheCDreductionisofcoursewelcome.
SituationalThistalentoverallisrisinginpopularitybecauseofKael'Thasandallthosemagicdamagecomps(Jaina,Sylvanas,Kerrigan,etc...)Nowlast3secondssoit'sreallygood.I'mstartingtogetthismoreandmoretobehonest.
NoThedamageyourslamwilldealcombinedwith WrathoftheBerserkerisinsane.However,thisisjusttoogreedyandyouwon'tgetawaywithit,unlessyouhaveabigexperienceadvantagealready.Atthispointofthegame,opponentsstarttohitreallyhard,andyouneedadefensiveabilityhere.
NoThistalentwouldbeviableifitwaspickableearlier(lvl4forexample)butit'sdefinitelynotworthitatlvl16.
Situational
Iwouldpickthistalentover NervesofSteelonlyiftheoppositeteamwouldhavetwoautoattackdamagedealerslike Illidanand Sgt.Hammertogetherforexample(whichdoesn'thappenalot).With TheButchercomingoutandthosecompscenteredaroundhim,thistalentmightseemoreplayinthefuture.
YesAnactiveshieldwhichcanbeusedtoblockincomingspells(i.e.Kael'thas's Flamestrike).Themoreexperienceyouwillhavewiththegame,themorespellsyouwillbeabletopredictandabsorb.CheckShieldsusagesformoreinfo.
NoYoudon'tevengetthistalentifyoutakeLeaplvl10,aspeoplecanjustcounteriteasilybypickingup BoltoftheStorm.
NoThebuffthistalentrecievedinthepatchisn'tenoughtomakeitviable.Thisiscurrentlytooweakcomparedto IgnorePain.
No AutoattackSonyaisn'tviable.Eventhen,gettingthiswouldbetoogreedy.
Yes Extremelygood.Tobehonest,ifthistalentwasn'tthere,Sonyawouldnotbeviable,asshewouldgetdestroyedatthispointofthegame.CheckShieldsusagesformoreinfoaboutshieldsrotations.
lvl4:HurricaneorFocusedAttack?
So Hurricaneremovesallslowsandroots.Iwouldsay:Iftheenemyteamhasnorootsandonlymaybe1/2slows,youcanget FocusedAttack,otherwiseget Hurricane.
Hereisalistof{heroes>abilities}whichslowandroot.Themostimportantoncesinmybeliefcomefirst:
> EntanglingRoots
> FeralSpirit
> HowlingBlastand SummonSindragosa
> KegSmashand PressurePoint
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> Frostbiteand NumbingBlast
> FrostShot
> Hamstring
> SingularitySpike
> PinningShot
> Hammerang
> ThunderClap
> El'Druin'sMight
> Punish
> Tenderizer
Intheend,you'llrealisethat Hurricaneispretymuchneededforeverygames.
Shieldsusages
Youshouldalwaystrytopredictandabsorbincomingspells,insteadofusingitafterthedamagesaredone.Thereasonbehinditis:IfopponentsseethatyouarelowHP,theywillwanttofinishyouandmightchaseyoutodeath.Eventhoughitcanbeagoodbaitifyouareclosetoyourtowers/keep,youdontwanttodropelowinanopenfieldteamfight.
Onceyou'vereachedlvl20,youshouldhavebothshields.DON'TEVERUSETHEMATTHESAMETIMEasyouwouldlosesomeof NervesofSteel'svalue(atlvl20,Sonyahasabout5kHp,itmeansStoneskinwouldabsorb1500,andyouwillrarelytakethatmuchunderIgnorePainunlessyourunin1v5).
Irecomendtousethemoneaftertheother,startingwith IgnorePainbecausewhenthefightbegins,that'swhenallopponentsabilitiesareupandtheywillmostlikelythroweverythingatthestart(NotnecessarelytrueinTeamLeague)soIgnorePainwillnegatemostofthat.Oncethedurationisgone,eitherstayinfrontifthefightgoeswellanduse NervesofSteel,orgobackabitandsaveitforthemomentwhenyougobackin.
WhatSonyaisgoodatFirstofall,youneedtounderstandthathertypeismisleading:SonyaisNOTatank!andshouldneverbepickedassolowarrior.Considerherasameleeassassinforteamcomp.ThemainreasonwhySonyaisgoodthispatchis...because Kael'thasisthestrongestherointhegamerightnow,andSonyacrusheshim.Whydon'tweseemoreSonyathen?! ZeratulisalsoaknowncountertoKTandheoffersbetterutilitywith VoidPrisonandsurvabilitywith Wormhole.
Clearingcamps
Youshouldn'twastetimedoingeverycamps(likethesonyastereotype:P)buttheheroisprobablythebestatit.Trytomemorizetheobjectivestimerstonotstartacampwhenyouneedtobesomewhereelse(i.e.withyourteamforobjectives).DON'TDOIT10secondesbeforeatributespawnsforexample:p
Killingsquishyheroes
Teamfightapproach:Youshouldneverinitiateateamfight,thisisn'tyourrole.Staymountedandtrytosneakontheside,waitingforyourteamtomakespaceforyouandalsoforyoursquishytargettoshowup.Don'tgoonhimif
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he'stoofarfromyourteamthoughunlesshe'sreallyfarback(otherwisehisteamwillturnonyouandyouwon'tgetanyhelp).
Theseheroeshavenoescapeuntillvl20 BoltoftheStorm.Youshouldn'thaveanyproblemtosticktothem.TrytododgeKael'Thas's GravityLapseasthisisthefirstthinghewilltrytodoinmostcasesaftertheministunofyour AncientSpear.
Youhavetobecarefulaboutwhenyouuseyour HurricanetodispeltheslowfromhertraitFrostbite.Theworstcasescenarioisifshesaves1spellforafteryouuseit,butmostofJainasarestupidandthrowall3spellsrightawayafteryouinitiateonheranyway^^.Afterward,herFrostboltisthesamecooldownasyour Whirlwind(notexactlybecausetheCDofwhirlwindstartsafteritends,butyougettheidea.)
ThebestwaytokilloneofthosetargetsistomountupandgettoherwithoutusingAncientSpear.Itmeansthatyouprobablywon'thavefury,souse ShotofFury
rightaway.Waitforhertouseherescape Vaultor HauntingWavethenspearrightonherarrival.
While Zeratulcanjukeyouwithhis Blinkandmanagetogetarestealthoff,Novashouldn'tbeableto.Withthebonusmovementsspeedfromthetrait Fury,thereisnowayshegetoutbeforelvl20(with BoltoftheStormwhichmostofnovasdon'teventakeanyway)
Hisdefensivesabilitiesrelyon Evasionandtheshieldofit ShadowShield.SinceyoudontautoattackmuchwithSonya,youdontcareabouttheevasion,andoneSlamwillbasicallybreaktheshield,soyoushouldalwayshaveagoodtimingwindowtobursthimwithacoupleofslamsafterward(save ShotofFuryforthismoment)Keepinminditwillbeharderwhenhereacheslvl13,ashewillhave SixthSensebutatthispointofthegame,youshouldrarelybealonewithhim.Trytowaitforhimtousehis Divewhenyouwantto AncientSpeartohim,asitwillbeharderforhimtododgeitafterward.
Man...thisisalwayssuchapleasuretowashyourselfinthis ZombieWall,whichlitteralyhelpyoutostayalive.Hewillmostlikelytake Sprintatlvl13thoughifheusesit,don'tbotherchasinghim,andgetbacktoyourteamuntilhecomesback.
With WrathoftheBerserkeron,youbasicallyoneshothimwith1SlamxD,hebarelyhastimetousehis SafetyBubble.
ImportantNote:Ihaven'tmentionedanysupportherebecauseyousimplyshouldneverfocusonealone,unlessyouplaywithacoordinatedstackwithheavyCrowdcontrol.Thereasonbehinditisthatifyoufocusasquishyassassin,hewilltakesomuchdamagethathewon'tbeabletostandhisground,andwillhavetorun.Ifheruns,hedoesn'tdodamagesanymore,whichincreasesyourteamsurvabilityandparticularyyours,asSonyaisgeneralythefocus/hatedtarget:p
Onelastthing: AncientSpearministuns.KeepthatinmindincasetherearechannelingheroicsyouhavetoworryaboutlikeE.T.C's MoshPit,Nazeebo's RavenousSpiritorMurky's OctoGrab.
OthersbuildsforfunLeap / slam (classic)
Sonya
ShotofFury
ShatteredGround
PoisonedSpear
Leap
Aftershock
FuriousBlow
IgnorePain
ViewBuild
Auto-Attack
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Sonya
WarPaint
FocusedAttack
FollowThrough
Wrathofthe
Berserker
MysticalSpear
NervesofSteel
IgnorePain
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WhynotFocusedAttack/FollowThrough?
Data
What FollowThroughoffers:
atlvl7:basedamage=88,withFollowthrough=123(+35)atlvl20:basedamage=192,withFollowthrough=269(+77)
Howmanyautoattacksyouneedtodotocompetewith PoisonedSpear:
atlvl7:Poisonedspearadds148.5damageatlvl20:Poisonedspearadds285damage
So
atlvl7:FollowThrough>PoisonedSpearifyoudo5+autoattacks.atlvl20:FollowThrough>PoisonedSpearifyoudo4+autoattacks.
ItappearsthatautoattacksscalebetterintothelategamethanPoisonedspear.
Analysis
NowthereisaBUG:Onthefirsthitafter AncientSpear, FocusedAttackand FollowThroughdon'tproctogether.Ifbothareup,thefirsthitwillbewithFocusedAttackandthesecondFollowThrough.
Sowhathappenis:
AncientSpear> FocusedAttack> SeismicSlam> FollowThrough> SeismicSlam> FollowThroughandsoon.
Thisbugmeansthatyouneedonemoreautoattacktomake FollowThroughworthitover PoisonedSpear.Nowlet'sfaceit:youwillnevergetmorethan3/4autoattacksonasingleheroinateamfightanyway.Soit'sgoodforPvE,butweakerforPvP.
Ihopeyouguyslearnedsomethingfromthis.
LettheworldknowhowgoodSonyais.Enterthenexusandrockon!
Ifyouhaveanyquestions,feelfreetoaskincoments.Youcanalsocontactmeonskype:hypnoz67oremailat:[email protected]
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Thanksfortheguide.Idowonderwhatyoudowhenthegamejuststarted.Areyoulaning,orlookingforpvp.Doyoulookforyourownlaneordoyoualwaystrytobewithsomeoneonalane?
Whenthegamegetsfurther.Doyoufocusonmercs,buildingsorpvp?
ItriedSonyaoncebutnevergotagoodfeelingatwhatIwasbestatwithher.
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MOTIONSWROTE:
Areyoulaning,orlookingforpvp.Doyoulookforyourownlaneordoyoualwaystrytobewithsomeoneonalane?
Ipersonallypreferroamingearlygame(hidedinbushes,waitingforopportunities),asitistheplaystylethatisthemostrewardinginsoloqueue(ifsuccessfulganks)andallowyoutocarryyourteamthroughoutearlygameandhopeforalvl10advantageoveryourenemies.Youcan'tdothateverygamesthough,assometimesyouneedtosoakalaneyourself(dependingonwhatyourteamwantstodo).Inthatcase,youhavetounderstandwhattodoifyouare1v2,or2v2.1v2:don'tlookforakillunlesstheydiveyoureallybadlyandyoucangetaspearoffundertower.if2v2,trytobesmartandunderstandwhatyoucankillandcannot.
MOTIONSWROTE:
Whenthegamegetsfurther.Doyoufocusonmercs,buildingsorpvp?
Checkthepart"whatsonyaisgoodat"asItalkaboutitalittle.Thisquestionasnothingtodowithsonyaspecificaly,butabouttheoverallunderstandingofthegame'ssituation.
IfyourteamisleadinginXP:youshouldalwaystrytolookforfights/pressureyourenemiestopreventthemfromcatchingup(don'tletthembreeze).
IfyourteamisbehindinXP:Dodgefights,domercsifyoucan(watchthemapallthetimetounderstandyourenemiesmovements)andsplitpushaslongasyoucantotrytocatchupinXP.
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