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MAP in Seattle Schools June 2010

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49.4% 30349.3% 30225.8% 15814.0% 86

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N um ber Res po ns e Da te Other (pleasespecify)1 Jun 7, 2010 5:15 PM Teamtraininginfallandwinter2 Jun 7, 2010 5:18 PM AnIntroSession2008-2009schoolyear,wepilotedtheassessment3 Jun 7, 2010 5:21 PM InthecomputerlabwhileKindergartenclasswastakingMAPtest4 Jun 7, 2010 5:25 PM MAPproctortrainingSeptember20095 Jun 7, 2010 5:29 PM beginningofschoolyear6 Jun 7, 2010 5:29 PM previousdistricttraining7 Jun 7, 2010 5:30 PM falltrainings8 Jun 7, 2010 5:30 PM maptraininglastyearatJSEE9 Jun 7, 2010 5:38 PM TrainedbyothercolleaguewhowastrainedforMAPinmyschool10 Jun 7, 2010 5:38 PM AttendedonetraininginWestSeattlelastFall

11 Jun 7, 2010 5:39 PM schoolpsych12 Jun 7, 2010 5:41 PM APlevelmeetingtrainings13 Jun 7, 2010 5:58 PM AttendingtraininglastAugustaswellasbuidlingtrainings14 Jun 7, 2010 5:58 PM IattendedthefirstoneinOctoberof200815 Jun 7, 2010 5:58 PM wewereneverofferedany16 Jun 7, 2010 6:02 PM Ashorttraininglastsummer17 Jun 7, 2010 6:10 PM ouradministratortalkedtousaboutMAP,notsureifthatsconsideredPD.18 Jun 7, 2010 6:38 PM WehaverecievedtrainingatourschooloverthepasttwoyearssinceweareaMAPpilotschool19 Jun 7, 2010 7:11 PM MAPTeamtrainingsatJSCEE20 Jun 7, 2010 7:21 PM NothingwasdoneatouratourschoolinMayorjune,Idon'tthink.21 Jun 7, 2010 7:22 PM IwasorginallyontheMAPteamforourschool,butchangedmymind.22 Jun 7, 2010 7:22 PM TherewereacoupleofverybriefpresentationsonMAPfromadmin,butverylittlestructuredPDwasoffered.23 Jun 7, 2010 7:25 PM ReceivedbrieftrainingduringPrincipalsLevelMeeting.24 Jun 7, 2010 7:52 PM oneononewithMonicaConnors25 Jun 7, 2010 8:14 PM Thefirstsessionyouheldinthefall26 Jun 7, 2010 8:15 PM MAPtrainingforSLPs27 Jun 7, 2010 8:15 PM clustertraining28 Jun 7, 2010 8:26 PM 2009StanfordCenter29 Jun 7, 2010 8:45 PM Notsure,iknowwehavetalkedaboutMAPatstaffmeetingsbutIdon'tthinkitwasPD?30 Jun 7, 2010 8:59 PM MAPtrainingsduringthe2008/2009schoolyear31 Jun 7, 2010 9:09 PM IattendedbothAugustandOctober32 Jun 7, 2010 9:10 PM MAPtrainingforspeechtherapists33 Jun 7, 2010 9:22 PM MAPTrainingsinAugustandDecemberasJSCEE


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IunderstandhowMAPdatacaninformmyinstruction.

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N um ber Res po ns e Da te Other (pleasespecify)1 Jun 7, 2010 5:17 PM IhavenotadministeredtheMAP,andhavenotbeengivencopiesofmystudents2 Jun 7, 2010 5:27 PM Iamonlyinvolvedinadministeringthetest.3 Jun 7, 2010 5:43 PM Ihaveprovidedthesereportstoteachers.Wewerelategettingthem;mistakenlysenttoStevens.4 Jun 7, 2010 5:49 PM reportswereforclassesthatinolongerhad.ihadtocompilemyownlists.5 Jun 7, 2010 5:53 PM I'mnotaclassroomteacher6 Jun 7, 2010 5:54 PM

IonlyviewedthereportsformyELLstudentsonline.7 Jun 7, 2010 6:11 PM Ihadmademyownpriortoreceivingthedistrictreport.8 Jun 7, 2010 6:12 PM mystudentsdidnotdoMAPtestinginthespring(self-containedspecialedclass)9 Jun 7, 2010 6:13 PM Iamnotaclassroomteacheranddon'thave9thgraders10 Jun 7, 2010 6:23 PM IlookedupscoresontheNWEAsite.Veryonerous!11 Jun 7, 2010 6:59 PM notsure12 Jun 7, 2010 7:29 PM13 Jun 7, 2010 7:39 PM MAPisbogus14 Jun 7, 2010 7:54 PM Ithink15 Jun 7, 2010 8:04 PM IwenttotheMAPwebsiteandgotmystudent'sscores16 Jun 7, 2010 8:49 PM Icreatdmyownreports17 Jun 7, 2010 8:50 PM ihaveviewedreportsonline18 Jun 7, 2010 9:07 PM ourprincipalsaidthey'llbeinourteachermailboxestomorrow,6/8.19 Jun 7, 2010 9:12 PM NA20 Jun 7, 2010 9:51 PM I'mnotsureifwhatIhaveisseenisdistrict-createdornot;afterreadingthequestionbelow-I'mprettysureIhaveseendistrict-createdmaterials21 Jun 7, 2010 9:59 PM Novadecidednottousethedatafromthereports22 Jun 7, 2010 10:54 PM I'manParapro23 Jun 7, 2010 11:37 PM I'veseenreports,butnotsureiftheyarewhat'sbeingreferencedinthisquestion.24 Jun 7, 2010 11:47 PM Ourschoolhasnottestedyet.25 Jun 8, 2010 3:46 AM IdonotteachMath&Reading,sothereportsdonotapplytomycurrentclassload26 Jun 8, 2010 3:19 PM Don'thaveaclass27 Jun 8, 2010 7:39 PM notsurewhichpacketofpapersthosewere

Idoinstructionalsupport,andseestudentsfromallovertheschool.Iwouldliketobeabletoprintmyownreports,selectingonlythestudentsIseeandnotwadethroughallofthereportstofindmystudents.


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MAP in Seattle Schools June 2010I have been provided with the district-created custom MAP reports for my class/schoolfor spring 2010. (These are the reports created by the central office and placed in28 Jun 8, 2010 8:08 PM Ihaveaccesstothereports

29 Jun 8, 2010 8:52 PM Asthelibrarianthisdoesnotseemapplicable.30 Jun 9, 2010 12:46 AM notaclassroomteacher31 Jun 9, 2010 4:23 PM specialistsodon'tneedthem32 Jun 9, 2010 6:12 PM weareonlytestingrightnow.33 Jun 10, 2010 9:54 PM IamnotsurewhichreportsIhaveseenwerefromthedistrict.34 Jun 11, 2010 3:10 AM I'veseenthereportsforotherclassrooms.Ionlyusethescreenercurrently.35 Jun 11, 2010 9:44 PM Itwouldhavebeenhelpfultoknowaheadthatwewouldreceivethesebecauseweprintedandsenthomethespringresultsalready36 Jun 11, 2010 10:26 PM IhaveonlythereportsIprintedmyselffromthewebsite.Thedidtricthasn'tgivenmeanything.


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390Number Response Date Response Text1 Jun 7, 2010 5:17 PM GettingridoftheMAPtestwouldhelpmeincreasestudentgrowth.2 Jun 7, 2010 5:26 PM Needmoretrainingtounderstandthevariousreports.3 Jun 7, 2010 5:30 PM HowthescoresontheMAPrelates/correlatestoMSP

4 Jun 7, 2010 5:31 PMPleaseaddresstheissueofaccomplishedstudentsnotseeingthesamegrowthoramorelimitedrangeiftheyareassignedtothemathcontinuumrecommendedbythedistrict.5 Jun 7, 2010 5:32 PM Iwouldlikestudentgrowthbasedonstrandstobeeasytointerpret.Ihadtodoitmanually.

6 Jun 7, 2010 5:33 PMIfstudentswentupfromfalltowinterthendownagaininthespring,Iwouldliketoseethemcreditedforthegainstheymadelookingatallthreescoresnotjustthespringscore.Somekidshaveatoughdayortestfatiguebythe3rdtestandlookatnegativegainsalthoughtheydidshowgrowthinthewinterscore.7 Jun 7, 2010 5:33 PM AgreaterunderstqandingofhowMAPalignswithstatestandardsandEverydayMath

8 Jun 7, 2010 5:36 PMOurcurriculumdoesnotdovetailwiththeconceptsbeingevaluatedontheMAP.Weneedmoreintentionalinstructionofgrammar,Latinroots,literaryelementsanddevices,etc.9 Jun 7, 2010 5:36 PM Strategiesandmaterialstohelpindividualstudentswithpersonalgrowthandgoals.

10 Jun 7, 2010 5:37 PM IfeellikeIneedmoresupportfromthedistrictwithcurriculumresourcestoaddressspecficstrandsofMAP.What'savailabletohelpkidspracticecertainskills(homework)?11 Jun 7, 2010 5:39 PM Accesstodistrict-createdsummaries,reports,anddetails.12 Jun 7, 2010 5:40 PM LongtermrealstudentgrowthhasnothingtodowithMAP13 Jun 7, 2010 5:41 PM Tohaveaccesstothedatsowecansliceanddicethedataourselves14 Jun 7, 2010 5:43 PM Discussionregardingchanginginstructiontomeettheneedsofkids.Iunderstandthis,butthestaffischallengedbythisconcept.15 Jun 7, 2010 5:44 PM

TheMAPtestingwithassistancedoesnotgotothedepthoftheotherchildren'sreports.Itjustshowsnumbersense,whichdoesnotcorrelatewithgoingfurtherintoanalyzingthedata,somethingtheregulartestsdofornon-assistedchildren.16 Jun 7, 2010 5:49 PM howtoaccountfordataabnormalities.17 Jun 7, 2010 5:53 PM Moredetailedinformationaboutwhattheresultsmean.

18 Jun 7, 2010 5:54 PM Findingstudents'weaknessandstrengthindetailshelpmetoadjustmyinstruction.

19 Jun 7, 2010 6:00 PMItisveryhardtousethedatafrommykindergartenerstoinforminstructionbecausefall,winterandformostkidsspring,thedatatrulyonlyshowedmetheirabilitytouseacomputer.Theresultsonlyaccuratelyrepresented(whencomparedtootherassessmentused)5-10%ofmyclassandonlywiththeirspringresults.

20 Jun 7, 2010 6:01 PM ThemessagefromtheMAPTrainerstoteachershasbeenthattheMAPscoreswillnotbea"high-stakes"test.However,itisbeingusedforsuchitemsastheAdvancedLearningeligibility.Canwepleasechangehowwearemessagingthistoteachers?Justneedaconsistentmessage.21 Jun 7, 2010 6:01 PM Theproblemisthatthedataispresentedbytheonlypersontrained(andsheisamathperson).Sheshowedmethescores,butcannotinterpretthem.Ineedeffectivetraining.22 Jun 7, 2010 6:02 PM

Moretrainingaboutwhat"typicalgrowth"means,

infoonwhatotherSPSandnationalschoolsparticipateie,wherearethe"typical"studentscomingfrom?23 Jun 7, 2010 6:04 PM IthinkIhaveastrongunderstandingofstudentgrowthandachievement24 Jun 7, 2010 6:07 PM reportsdontcorrelatetogradelevelskills25 Jun 7, 2010 6:09 PM Mystudentsweretoolowtoscoresignificantlyonthistest.Thetestresultswerenotthathelpful.26 Jun 7, 2010 6:09 PM Studentgrowthisnotshowing-it'sgoingintheoppositedirection.27 Jun 7, 2010 6:10 PM Accesstodistrict-createdreports.

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MAP in Seattle Schools June 2010What would help you build on the concepts you have learned so far related to student growth?

28 Jun 7, 2010 6:11 PM Ihaven'tseencorrelation/causalrelationshipsbetweenmyeffortandstudentgrowth.SometimesIseetheinverseoccurring.29 Jun 7, 2010 6:13 PM notapplicable

30 Jun 7, 2010 6:13 PMThisyearwashardconsideringstudentswhowereallowedaccomandationsdidn'trecievethemuntilSpringinmyschoolsoofcoursetherewasahugejumpinscores.ItwasalsohardbecuasethereisnowayforustoseeanyanswersandmanyquestionsIobservedin3rdgradeIwasn'tevensurewhattheanswerwas.

31 Jun 7, 2010 6:18 PM dumpmaptestinganduseIowaTests

32 Jun 7, 2010 6:19 PM

Thesedistrict-createdsummariesshouldbeveryhelpfulandaremostwelcome,butseemexpensiveforeachdistricttoproduce.IsNWEAbeingencouragedtoprovidethese?Astheyarenew&arenoteasilyaccessibleforeveryteacherinacentralsite(Prinipalgatekeeper)easyaccessiscurrentlyaproblem.Isthereaserverthatcanbeaccessedbyeveryteacherineverybuildingviaapasswordfortheirownreports?Also,anunderstandingofwinterscores.Theyseemtobeabitwild&notasaccurateasFall&Spring.Alsoifstudentguessaccurately,itcanbumptheirscoresupby10-15pts.Thensubsquenttestsreflectreducedscores.NWEAneedstofigurethisoutbetter.Oneofthecollegeboardsgivesapartialnegativeptformisseditems&nodeductionforaquestionleftblank.MaybeNWEAneedstogotothiskindofscoring.Itmakesthescoringseemlessaccurate.

33 Jun 7, 2010 6:20 PMItwouldhelpifthedistrictcouldsendsomeoneabletoexplainthedatatoteachers,tomodelforuswhatthelettersandnumbersmean,sothatwecanbegintowrapourheadsaroundthistest.Untilthen,itwillremainvagueandincomprehensibletoteachers,studentsandparentsalike.

34 Jun 7, 2010 6:21 PMItwouldbeinformativetohaveaccesstodatafromstudentswhoarenotinmyclasssothatIcanmakedirectcomparisonsbetweenstudentsinregularmath,thoseinadvancedmath,andthoseinmathwithsupport.Itwouldhelpmedetermineifeachstudentisplacedappropriately.35 Jun 7, 2010 6:23 PM Isaid"neutral"abovebecauseIdon'tthinkIsawthosereports.

36 Jun 7, 2010 6:23 PM moreinformation37 Jun 7, 2010 6:25 PM WedidnotdothefallMAPinK.Weonlydidthewinterandthegrowthcomparisonwasnotshownforthis.Sothatwasnothelpful38 Jun 7, 2010 6:34 PM trainingtimetocollaboratewithotherstaff39 Jun 7, 2010 6:39 PM thewebsitecoulddesperatelyusadesignertohelpwithuser-friendlinessaswellasoverallaesthetics=)40 Jun 7, 2010 6:39 PM TounderstandhowMAPrelatestostatestandardsanddistrict-mandatedcurriculum.41 Jun 7, 2010 6:40 PM Ineedtospendmoretimeandhavesomeofthedataclarified.42 Jun 7, 2010 6:43 PM Thereportsyoutalkaboutabovewerenotcreatedbythedistrict.Wehadtocreatethemandthenwedidnothavemuchtimetousethedatatoinforminstruction.Theclassstrandwouldhavebeenveryhelpful.43 Jun 7, 2010 6:43 PM Nothavingtherangeforthesubcomponents.BeingabletocompareMAPdatawithotherdataonkids.44 Jun 7, 2010 6:45 PM questionsshowntoteacherbasedonrange45 Jun 7, 2010 6:45 PM MAPReadingscoresforDeafandHard-of-Hearingstudentsdoesnotappeartobeaccurate46 Jun 7, 2010 6:47 PM Accesstothetestresultsandmoretrainingonhowtointerprettheresults.47 Jun 7, 2010 6:47 PM Moretraining.48 Jun 7, 2010 6:49 PM Ifeelthisisabiasedtestandthedistrictisbasingtoomuchonthisdata.49 Jun 7, 2010 6:53 PM

moreclarityaboutvocabularydatathatcomparestostandard,nottodistrictwidegrowth50 Jun 7, 2010 7:01 PM Growthdataisthemostcrucial.Wegetthatfromdistrictreports.

51 Jun 7, 2010 7:02 PM ToshowALLstudentsinaclass'progressatoneceforallthreeteststaken52 Jun 7, 2010 7:03 PM n/a53 Jun 7, 2010 7:04 PM none54 Jun 7, 2010 7:06 PM Recognitionbythedistrictthatnotallgrowthisshownonamultiplechoiceexam.55 Jun 7, 2010 7:10 PM TomovethefinaltestingwindowtoJunesothatwecanusethedatasuiteprovidedbythecompany.56 Jun 7, 2010 7:12 PM IwouildliketoknowwhichEALRsareaddressedineachquestion.57 Jun 7, 2010 7:13 PM

Wearefindingthatouradvancedlearnersacrosstheboarddidnotmeettypicalgrowthbecausetheyscoredsohighinthefallanditlooksliketheydidnotlearnanything--evenshowednegativegrowth.


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58 Jun 7, 2010 7:16 PM

Youcannotdefine"studentgrowth".Itisdifferentforeachchildateverygradeandagelevel.IfyoubelievethatyoucanevaluateaTEACHERbasedontheresultsoftheMAPtest,oranyothertest,youaredeadwrong.Ihave30yearsteachingexperienceandknowwhatIamtalkingabout.PleasedonotthinkthattheMAPtestisanysortof"administrativesavior"thatwillmaketeachers'betteratwhattheydo.Youneedtochangethefundamentalsoflearningandteachinginordertohelpstudentslearnbetterandmore.59 Jun 7, 2010 7:16 PM na

60 Jun 7, 2010 7:18 PM Whatotherinstructionalinterventions/changescouldberecommendedforspecificabilitygroups.61 Jun 7, 2010 7:18 PM Thishasnothelpedmeatallasrelatedtostudentgrowth.62 Jun 7, 2010 7:19 PM

Auniformsetofmaterials,informationandspeakingpointstousewhendiscussingdatawithfamiles,esp.howtheirchild'sscoreisrelatedtodistrictaverages,andwhattodowhentheyarebelowaverage.63 Jun 7, 2010 7:20 PM Canwecomparestudentsandgradesingraphformattoshowteacherstrends?

64 Jun 7, 2010 7:21 PM Idon'tthinkMAPhasgivenanaccuratepictureofsomeofmyolderstudentswithautism.65 Jun 7, 2010 7:21 PM Moreinformationandeasieraccesstothemanysubtestsintheprimaryreadingandmath

66 Jun 7, 2010 7:25 PMIwouldliketoknowHOWtheconceptsaretested.Howiswritingassessedwhenthereisnowriting?Howisreadingassessedwhenthereisnoreading?Ifthetestdoesnottestwhatweteach,thenitwon'tbeanaccuratemeasureofstudentgrowth.Mystudent'sgrowthontheMAPdoesnotalwayscorrelatetotheirgrowthinclass.Thisisfrustratingtome.

67 Jun 7, 2010 7:25 PMItwouldbeincrediblyhelpfultohavemoreinformationonMAP--toseeandhavetheopportunitytotakeanactualMAPtest.Asitstands,Ihaveneverlaideyesonthetest,knowverylittleaboutit,andhavebeengivenvirtuallynoPDonhowtomakeitrelevantformystudentsandmypractice.68 Jun 7, 2010 7:26 PM writetheconceptsinparent-studentfriendlylanguage.

69 Jun 7, 2010 7:26 PM ?70 Jun 7, 2010 7:27 PM District-fundedreleasetimetoanalyzereportsandplandifferentiatedinstruction.Tailoredprofessionaldevelopmentaboutdifferentiatedinstructionatthehighschoollevel.71 Jun 7, 2010 7:27 PM Weneedconcreteinfotogiveparents-theyshouldalsobetrainedonhowtoreadthisdata.Ihavenoideahowtoexplaintheseresults,andIreceivedalmostnousableresultsduetoinconsistentand/orincompletetestingofmyclass.

72 Jun 7, 2010 7:29 PMHavingreportscustomizedtomyspecificstudents.Iseestudentsfromeveryclassintheschool.ItisVERYtimeconsumngtohavetogothrougheachteacher'sreportstofindmystudents.I'dliketobeabletosetupmygroupsonceayearandprintcustomreportsforthestudentsIsee.

73 Jun 7, 2010 7:31 PM Iteachmath(CMP2)andwouldappreciatesupportinusingstudentMAPdatatodifferentiateourcurriculumtomeetindividualstudentneeds.ThisneedstobefromsomeonewhohasastrongunderstandingoftheCMP2curriculumandoftheMAPstranddata.Thanks74 Jun 7, 2010 7:31 PM Accessingjustthebilingualstudentdata75 Jun 7, 2010 7:35 PM

AnunderstandingofWHYifstudentgrowthislistedas2or3pointsandthe"standarddeviation"is2or3pointsbothupanddown-howcanthatbecalledgrowth?76 Jun 7, 2010 7:36 PM havingcopiesofsimilarquestionsonthemaptest,specificexamples,thestrandsaretoogeneral

77 Jun 7, 2010 7:37 PMItwouldbehelpfultoseespecificquestionsthatthemajorityoftheclassmissed.

Also,itwouldbemoreefficienttohavethestudents'scoresassignedagradelevelalongwiththeRITandlexile.Itismoremeaningfultothefamilies.78 Jun 7, 2010 7:39 PM showitinachartformorgraph79 Jun 7, 2010 7:39 PM MAPisawasteoftime80 Jun 7, 2010 7:39 PM weneedtobeabletousethebigfoldoutthingwhichwewerenotgivenbythedistrictforeveryteacher;onlytheMAPpersonnelrec'dthose81 Jun 7, 2010 7:40 PM IstillneedtounderstandwhatskillsaligntowhatRITrange,andhowthatcorrelatestogradelevel.82 Jun 7, 2010 7:43 PM Tolearnabouttypicalgrowthforspecialeducation,ELLstudentsandotherspecialpopulations.83 Jun 7, 2010 7:44 PM Thedataistooconfusingtoeasilyinterpretforparentsandevenforteacherswhentryingtoorganizestranddata.84 Jun 7, 2010 7:45 PM simplerexplanation/modelofgrowthreports-it'sverystatisticalandcomplicated85 Jun 7, 2010 7:54 PM Informationonthestudentgoalprocess.IstheregoingtobealargerfocusoncreatinggoalswithstudentsusingtheNWEAstudentgoalworksheets?


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86 Jun 7, 2010 7:55 PM Takingskills/stranddata-lookingatitthroughthelenseof"nextsteps"forthischild87 Jun 7, 2010 7:57 PM n/a88 Jun 7, 2010 7:59 PM

StudentGrowthisameaninglessconceptwhenonecannotarticulateforstudentshowtoraisetheirRITscores.Thealignmentofskillstoscoresisquitefuzzy.TheRITscoresdonotindicatewhichskillsstudentsarelacking.89 Jun 7, 2010 8:01 PM moreabouttheconnectionbewteencurriculumcalendar(math)andMAP,moteonhowtouseMAPtoinforminstruction

90 Jun 7, 2010 8:02 PM Knowingitwasn'tbeingtiedtomyevaluation.91 Jun 7, 2010 8:04 PM WhatcanIdotoimprovereadingscoresandhowcanIfindresourcesthatmeetmystudentswheretheyareinreadingsothatIknowthattheyaregettingtheconcepts?92 Jun 7, 2010 8:05 PM Givingmoretimeandassistancetoteacherstoteachandmakingclassroomsizessmaller93 Jun 7, 2010 8:12 PM

IneedmoreinserviceoninterpretingMapdata.Wehadabrieftrainingandthenweretoldtogoprintandlookatourdata.OurschooljuststartedusingMAPinthespring,soperhapsotherschoolshavehadmoretraining.94 Jun 7, 2010 8:13 PM Protocolsforstudentgoalsetting

95 Jun 7, 2010 8:14 PMIthinkhavingthetimetoplanlessonstargetedatstrandareastoseeifmyinstructionhelpsimprovestudents'scores.Asofnow,students'scoresmayhaveimproved,butIcannotpointtospecificinstructionalpracticesthataffectedspecificstrandcomponents.IthinkonceIamabletodothisandshareitwithstudentsandfamilies,studentswillhavemoreownershipintheirlearning.Theyhavetoseetheresultsasrelatedtospecificpractice.96 Jun 7, 2010 8:17 PM howlevelsrelatetoreportcard,allignedtocurriculum,etc.

97 Jun 7, 2010 8:17 PM IdonothaveaccesstoMAPscoresforstudentsIworkwith(Iamarelatedserviceprovider-SLP)-andfeeltheycouldbeVERYusefulifIdidhaveaccess.98 Jun 7, 2010 8:23 PM AgreeduponlessonideasforparticularstrandsaccordingtoMAP,likeTextComponents,andReading:MultiplePurposes99 Jun 7, 2010 8:23 PM howtoconnecttheresultstotherealworld.Howtoconnecttheresultstocurriculumandinstruction.100 Jun 7, 2010 8:24 PM Ithinkjusttakingthetestmoretimeswillallowteacherstobetterunderstandthegrowthdata-morepractice.

101 Jun 7, 2010 8:26 PM Now,howtousethestrandsandrelatethemwithourGLE's.102 Jun 7, 2010 8:30 PM

Itwouldhelpmetounderstandhowputtingadvancedcurriculuminthetestsisactuallyhelpingmyadvancedstudents.Itisnotatestoftheirability(readingcomp),butatesttoreflectthecurriculumwaybeyondtheirlevel.103 Jun 7, 2010 8:34 PM IwouldliketoknowhowtoreadthedataforELLstudents.

104 Jun 7, 2010 8:42 PM Beingabletoexplain(simply)whataRITscoreisandhowitisdetermined.105 Jun 7, 2010 8:47 PM Iwouldliketolearnhowotprintouttheindiviualreadinglistsforeachstudent.

106 Jun 7, 2010 8:48 PM

Wedidn'tdothefallassessmentsothatmadeitsotherewasnomeasurabledata.InKIamwonderingifwecouldalsoseegrowthwintertospring,thereasonforthisisthatinOctobermanyoftheircomputerskillsarelow,anditmaynotaccuratelyreflecttheirlevels.Bywintertheyhavebeenmoreexposedtocomputersandareabletoperformatahigherlevel.Idowishwecouldhavedatathatshowedgrowthduringthesefourmonths(winter-spring)forkinderstudents.

107 Jun 7, 2010 8:51 PM HavingabitmoretimetothinkabouthowIcanapplywhatI'velearned,andhavingmoretimetodiscussfindingswithmycolleagues.Idon'tthinkwehaveenoughtimetothinkaboutwhattheMAPdatameansintermsofdaytodayteachingpractices/principlesand/orpedagogy.108 Jun 7, 2010 8:56 PM None.109 Jun 7, 2010 8:59 PM reportsforkindergartenchildren110 Jun 7, 2010 9:00 PM Iwouldlikeabitmoreabouthowtointerpretextremegrowth(15pointsormore).CanIcorrelategrowthwithspecificareasofmathematicallearning?How?111 Jun 7, 2010 9:04 PM strategiesforworkingwithstudentsofdifferentabilitieswhoneedtotargetthesamestrandintheirwork.112 Jun 7, 2010 9:07 PM Havingsomereadymadematerialsinordertoworkoncertainskillsetsthatareneededforstudentstoworkonashomework.Itargettheminclassfortheseskillsbutitwasbenicetohavesomereadymadeitemstosendhomeforparentstohelptheirchildtoo.113 Jun 7, 2010 9:07 PM Moretrainings;moredistrict-providedteachingcurriculumthatisalignedtowhatstudentsarebeingtestingon;releasetimewithsubsfortheclassroomsothatteacherscangettogethertodiscussresultsandinstructionalstrategies.114 Jun 7, 2010 9:08 PM FindspecificareasforSDI115 Jun 7, 2010 9:11 PM Timelyresults


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116 Jun 7, 2010 9:12 PM toseethecombinationofHSPE/IOWA/MAP/SRIandanyotherscoresallonthestudentsscourcepage.Asalltestshaveweakareastoseeatleast3-5differentassesmentsononepagewouldinformdecisionsbetterthandependingonjustonetesttoshowasnapshotofastudentslearning.117 Jun 7, 2010 9:12 PM NA118 Jun 7, 2010 9:23 PM Knowingwhattheactualquestionsareandwhatareatheyeachrelateto.Accesstothesewouldbeincrediblyhelpful.119 Jun 7, 2010 9:25 PM Includealltheotherstandardizedteststhatstudentshavetaken120 Jun 7, 2010 9:27 PM acurriculumthatistiedtotheMAPassessments121 Jun 7, 2010 9:38 PM Haven'thadstudentsusethemyet.SpecialEd122 Jun 7, 2010 9:48 PM Realtimetoanalyzethedata

123 Jun 7, 2010 9:51 PMIwouldliketoknowhowtousethisinformationtosupportmymentorshipstudentsinarealisitic/applicableway.IwouldliketoknowhowtotakeinformationI'vereceivedandwhyitisrelevant/howtomakeitrelevantformySpanishlanguageclasses.Ifit'sjusttoinformmethatstudentsareaverageornotinreading/maththat'snotreallyrelevant.IcanalreadytelltheirstrengthsbytheassessmentsIuseinclass.Howshouldthisdatainformmypractice?124 Jun 7, 2010 9:52 PM IteachseniorswhohavenoMAPdata.ItwouldhelptohavestudentswithMAPdata.125 Jun 7, 2010 9:55 PM Watchdataovertime.Smallgroupdiscussions.

126 Jun 7, 2010 9:56 PM Iamstilllearninganddon'thaveasuggestionyet.127 Jun 7, 2010 9:59 PM N/A128 Jun 7, 2010 9:59 PM Abetterunderstandingofhowthequestionsthatareaskedreflectwhatisactuallytaught.ManyofthestudentshadquestionsthatarenotpartoftheEssentiallearningsofmygradelevel129 Jun 7, 2010 10:02 PM Ihaveaspecialeducation4Bclassroom.Onlyoneortwostudentsareabletoparticipate.I'dliketoknowhowmystudentscomparetoother4Bstudents.130 Jun 7, 2010 10:03 PM Continuedtraining131 Jun 7, 2010 10:05 PM Iwouldlikemoresupportinunderstandinghowmuchofthetestscorescanbeimpactedbytestissues-forexample,howmuchofastudent'sscoreisconsideredwhentheyhavelittlecomputerexperience.132 Jun 7, 2010 10:06 PM HavethemapplytothesubjectIteach.133 Jun 7, 2010 10:17 PM Learnmoreabouthowourcurriculumrelatestowhatisonthetest--134 Jun 7, 2010 10:18 PM Morestranddatacomparisonswithotherschools.135 Jun 7, 2010 10:24 PM MystudentstookdifferenttestsinFall/WinterandSpring.Iamunabletoseegrowthpatternsinmyresults.136 Jun 7, 2010 10:34 PM Howtoincorporateallthethingsstudent'sneedinaparticularstrandwhenthatstrandisa"weakness"137 Jun 7, 2010 10:34 PM Knowingwhatwasonthetestandhowthetestworks138 Jun 7, 2010 10:37 PM IwouldlikemoreTIMEtolookatthingswithmygrade-levelteam139 Jun 7, 2010 10:40 PM howistheRITtargetdetermined?Ineedtounderstandthistoknowhowtointerpretit.140 Jun 7, 2010 10:40 PM ItemanalysisoftestssoIknowexactlywhatskillseachstudentneedstoworkon.141 Jun 7, 2010 10:44 PM Istilldonotreallyunderstandthis!142 Jun 7, 2010 10:48 PM IwouldlikeabetterunderstandingofthevalidityofMAPscoresforSpecialEd.studentswhoshowednegative"growth"accordingtoMAPscores,butwhoshowedverypositiveresultswithanothercomputergeneratedtest(Read180SRItest).143 Jun 7, 2010 10:50 PM Iamstillreallyconfusedhowtogettothekindergartendata,andthenhowtoreadthedatatohelpmeinforminstruction.144 Jun 7, 2010 10:56 PM Haveprofessionaldevelopmenttimetoworkonthedata.145 Jun 7, 2010 10:57 PM Moretimetoanalyzethedatatoinforminstruction

146 Jun 7, 2010 11:11 PMIneedtodelvedeeperintothestrandsmystudentsarestrugglingin.ThisisaHUGEtask,whichI'mcommittedtobutneedtimeandguidancetodoso.PleasekeepinmindthatI'mstilllearningaboutwriter'sworkshop,reader'sworkshopandEDM-AMONGOTHERTHINGS.Thisisalotoflearningtodo!

147 Jun 7, 2010 11:22 PMLinegraphshowingtypicalgrowthforATGRADELEVELstudentvstypicalgrowthforbelowgradelevel,etc.-avisualtocomparewhattypeofgrowthisneededinlowerperformingtomeettheirpeers148 Jun 7, 2010 11:29 PM MorediscussionaboutrelatingMAPtootherassessments.

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150 Jun 7, 2010 11:47 PM moretrainingbeforewe'reinthefullswingoftheschoolyear.151 Jun 8, 2010 12:18 AM Morefamiliarity.152 Jun 8, 2010 12:21 AM none153 Jun 8, 2010 12:29 AM Moretimetoreflectwithstaffanddiscussstrategies154 Jun 8, 2010 12:45 AM Professionaldevelopmentinclassroomstrategiestoimprovestudentscores

155 Jun 8, 2010 1:26 AMItwouldbeeasiertogeneratemorespecificinstructionsifteachersareabletoseetheactualproblemsthatindividualstudentshadattemptedand/ormissedratherthanjustknowingthestudentsbeinghigh/low/averageinthestrands.Itisimportanttoknowhowandwhythestudentsmadetheerrorssowecanhelpthemcorrecttheirmistakesorreteachtheconceptifnecessary.156 Jun 8, 2010 1:29 AM can'tthinkofanythinginparticular

157 Jun 8, 2010 1:48 AMMystudentscanbe"alloftheplace."Astudentcanbeinthe38thpercentileinthefall,the89thpercentileinthewinterandthe42ndpercentileinthespring.HowdoIunderstand/explainthis?158 Jun 8, 2010 2:06 AM moreDesCartestraining159 Jun 8, 2010 2:55 AM Bettercommunication/lettersforfamilieswhoarehomeschooling.

160 Jun 8, 2010 2:57 AM SomeunderstandingofhowMAPrelatestoongoingcurriculumalignment--i.e.howdoin-class,agreed-uponassessmentsrelatetoMAPpartic.wheredata-gatheringisconcerned.161 Jun 8, 2010 3:46 AM IftheMAPtestingdirectlyrelatedtothesciencecontentthatIcurrentlyteachand/ortargetedlearningskillslinkedtomystudents'growthinscienceconcepts162 Jun 8, 2010 4:03 AM Itwouldhelpmeifthestrandswerebrokendownevenmore.Forexampleifalargemajorityofmystudentsdidn'tscorewellinnumbersenseorproblemsolving;Iwouldwanttoknowwhatspecificareas.Isitcalculation,orderofoperationsetc.163 Jun 8, 2010 4:06 AM Timebuildintothestaffdevelopmenttimetoanalyzedata--ittakestime,sowouldbehelpfulifwecouldusesomeofourPDtimetodothis.164 Jun 8, 2010 5:01 AM HOWDOESMAPCONNECTATALLWITHWHATWEDOINTHECLASSROOM.iTLOOKSLIKEANOTHERPRI,IFANYONESTILLREMEMBERSTHATWASTEOFTIMEANDMONEY.165 Jun 8, 2010 5:29 AM Weneedtoseeasamplingofthequestionsstudentsanswer.Itisveryhardtoinforminstructionbasedonascorewhenthetypeofquestion,vocabulary,orconceptpresentedisneverseenbytheteacher.166 Jun 8, 2010 5:35 AM Nothing

167 Jun 8, 2010 8:03 AMI'mstillhavingdifficultiesinterpretingandhelpingmyfamiliesinterprettheMAPscore.Tomanyofus,itisjustanumber.Also,ifyouhaveastudentwhoisperformingwellabovegradelevelatthebeginningoftheyear,thestudentgrowthdoesnotseemtoadjustforthis--ietheirMAPscoremaynotincreaseasmuchasanaverage(orbelowaverage)student.168 Jun 8, 2010 1:49 PM moretimetostudy,askquestionsregardingthereports

169 Jun 8, 2010 2:12 PM IhavenoideahowMAPreflects/informsonmyscienceteaching170 Jun 8, 2010 2:23 PM HowMAPalignswithstatestandards-theactualcurriculumweuseonadailybasis

171 Jun 8, 2010 2:34 PM AlthoughtheintroductorytrainingsworkedwiththeTraintheTrainermodel,theintricaciesofdifferentiationweretoocomplicatedtoeffectivelyreplicatethismodelbythetimewegottotheSpring.ThisisthecoreideaofmakingMAPscoresinforminstructionanditwastheweakestpartofthePD.172 Jun 8, 2010 3:02 PM IwouldlikeMAPtestingavailableatmyschoolsite(Interagency)soIdon;thavetotakestudentoff-campustocompletethetesting.Makesforlowercompletionrates.173 Jun 8, 2010 3:19 PM N/A174 Jun 8, 2010 3:20 PM howtoactuallyusethedatawithoutspendinghoursdoingdifferentiationladderswhicharetootimeconsummingandawasteofmytime.175 Jun 8, 2010 3:57 PM Wwewouldliketohaveareportthatisbasedonwhetherornotthestudentsarebelow,atgradelevel,orabovegradelevel,sowecanclearlyseewhichstudentsneedinterventions.

176 Jun 8, 2010 4:03 PMHowdowesaythattherearemanycircumstancesthatwouldresultinaloweredtestscoresincethistestswhatakidknows,notwhatthey'vebeentaught,

theycannotknowlessthantheydidonthepreviousMAP.Ifwecansluffawayanydropsinscorestoavarietyofcircumstances,itseemslikethatwouldresultinthesamefluidityofanyincrease(butespeciallysmallincreases)inthescores.

177 Jun 8, 2010 4:03 PM HowtoincorporateMAPanalysisintomyinstruction.178 Jun 8, 2010 4:33 PM Ireallydonotsupportthisprogram,soitisdifficultformetotalkabout"building"onit179 Jun 8, 2010 5:06 PM ItwouldbehelpfultohaveonecopyoftheDESCARTESstrategiesforeachgradelevel.


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180 Jun 8, 2010 5:26 PMWedonotneedtestingthisoften!Studentsdonottakethesetestseriouslyandtheytaketimeawayfromstudentlearning.MystudentstakethreeormoreOTHERstandardizedtesteveryyear.MAPgiveseroneousorsuperfluousdata.

181 Jun 8, 2010 5:27 PMHaveateachershowhowshe/heusesMAPdata.SeeinghowMAPresultscorrelatewithMSPresultsthisyear.Infoonhowscience,socialstudies,arts,etcteacherscanusemath/readingdatatoinformtheirinstruction.

182 Jun 8, 2010 6:16 PM Trainingontheterminology183 Jun 8, 2010 6:43 PM Moretrainingsoffered.Itookoverthisclassinthewinterandmoresupportwasnotofferedtonewteacherswhocameinmid-year.184 Jun 8, 2010 7:15 PM Tohavethetestdatareflectwhatthecurriculaandstatestandardsexpectationsare.185 Jun 8, 2010 7:39 PM moretimetolookovertestsandcollaborate-notatstaffmeetingafterschoolwhenallarenotinterested.186 Jun 8, 2010 8:08 PM Makesureallteachersreceivereportsontheirstudents187 Jun 8, 2010 8:15 PM Probablytherationaloftestingthreetimesayearwhenthebestindicatorsofgrowthcomewithhumaninteractionwithteachersandotherstudents.188 Jun 8, 2010 8:40 PM beginninginfosession189 Jun 8, 2010 8:47 PM WeneedmorePDonhowtointerprettheMAPandhowtousethescorestoassistwithinstruction.Unfortunately,myschoolhasbeeninthedarkandmanyparts.190 Jun 8, 2010 8:52 PM IdonotseetheMAPresults.WhenIhaveaskedforaccessIwastoldthattherewasnotawayformetosignintogetresults,butifIwantedthemtoseetheteachers.191 Jun 8, 2010 9:37 PM Moreconsitentdatawithfeweroutliers.Abetterunderstandingofwhysomestudentsgobackwardsintheirscores.192 Jun 8, 2010 9:50 PM Knowledgeofwhatrangestypicallydevelopingstudentsareinatcertaingradelevels.193 Jun 8, 2010 10:14 PM IreallyneedtounderstandtheRTImeasurements.IalsoneedamorespreadsheetfriendlywaytoexportthedatasoIcanbreakdownthenumbersthataredividedbyskillsandmanipulatetheworkinwaysthatactuallyhelpfulanddon'twastetonsofpaper.194 Jun 8, 2010 11:05 PM

IwouldliketocontinuethetrainingandcontinueusingtheMAPresultstoinforminstruction.Mystudentsshowedtremendousgrowththisyearrangingfrom3-28.195 Jun 8, 2010 11:29 PM Knowingspecificquestionsthatwerewrong

196 Jun 8, 2010 11:31 PMIwouldliketounderstandwhatconceptsmystudentsaremissing.Lastyearonthedistrictmathtestsweweregivenscoresthatoutlinedstudents'responsestoindividualquestionsaswellastocontentstrandsbutontheMAPdataweareonlygivenasinglenumberthatdoesnotgivemuchinformation.

197 Jun 9, 2010 12:07 AM SeetheentiretestmyK,1and2ndgradestudentstake.198 Jun 9, 2010 12:46 AM continuedprofessionaldevelopment199 Jun 9, 2010 5:05 AM Tobeabletoseewhatthequestionslooklikeforeachstudent!200 Jun 9, 2010 2:17 PM Moretimeandhelpaccessingthedescartes.201 Jun 9, 2010 2:40 PM Iwouldliketoeliminatetheuseofnorm-referencedtestsandinsteadseekoutacriterion-referencedtest(basedonOURstatestandards)totrackstudentgrowth.202 Jun 9, 2010 2:57 PM Moretimetoanalyzeresultsandcollaboratewithteammemberstouseresultsmoreeffectivelyregardinginstruction203 Jun 9, 2010 3:33 PM directrelationtocurriculumtaughtinmyclassesandmoreknowledgetothestudentsandparentsabouttheprocessandimportance204 Jun 9, 2010 4:35 PM Testsandcurriculashouldbealignedandrelated.205 Jun 9, 2010 6:35 PM Curriculumalignedwiththetest.Itisunethicalandunprofessionaltotestchildrenonmaterialtheyarenotbeingtaught.206 Jun 9, 2010 6:53 PM

Itwouldbehelpfultoincludeinthefallreport,thetypicalRITgrowthnumberforeachindividualchild.Forinstance,eitherthetypicalspringRITscoreortheactualnumberofpoints.207 Jun 9, 2010 8:04 PM AuthenticAssesments208 Jun 9, 2010 11:02 PM hardcopy/emailinformationonhowtoimprove/encouragestudentsacademicgrowth.

209 Jun 9, 2010 11:07 PM

Ihadtocreatemyownexcelspreadsheettogetallinformationaboutmyclassperformance,growthversusexpectedgrowth,andpercentilescomparingfallwinterandspringononesheetinoneplace,includingaveragesformyclassasawhole.TheNWEAreportswerehelpfultogivetoparents,butnotformyoverallperformance.Atthispointwiththetestsonew,wehavelittletogoonaboutwhatitmeanswhenindividualsslipinperformanceandpercentile,sometimesdramatically.Everyteacherhasafewofthese.Howreliableisthisasastrongindicatorthatthischildishavingaproblem.Notraining,literature,orexperiencehasyetinformedmehowtodealwithsuchdata.


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210 Jun 10, 2010 3:17 AMIcan'tfigureouthowtogetthereportsIwantoffthewebsite.TherearesomanyinstructionalsuggestionsforeachRITbandandeachsub-categorythatitwouldbeimpossibletousethedatatoplaninstructionforaparticularcategory,therearenotenoughtrends.

211 Jun 10, 2010 3:11 PMThereseemtobediscrepenciesbetweenthestateEALRsandwhatthestudentsaretestedoninMAP.Thereneedstobeastrongerconnectiontothegradelevelstandards.212 Jun 10, 2010 5:41 PM MoreProfessionaldevelopmenttointerpretdataandtocomeupwithstrategiestoinformmyinstruction

213 Jun 10, 2010 5:49 PM Notcertain214 Jun 10, 2010 8:40 PM Howtousetoinforminstuctionifstudentshavewidelyvaryingneeds.215 Jun 10, 2010 9:54 PM ItwouldbeveryhelpfultohavealistofjusttheELLsinmybuildingandtheirresultsandtheirstrengths/weaknessesbystrand.Ihavebeensortingthroughthewholeschool'sdata.

216 Jun 11, 2010 2:54 AMNotmuch,becausethesetestsarenotreleventtoELLstudents,ofwhichmyschoolisheavilymadeupof.Theydon'tunderstandthequestionsproperly.Inadditiontothat,Iteach1stgraderswhoarenotalwaysabletoreallyfocusonwhatthey'reasked,andonlythinkaboutbeing"firsttofinish".Iknowthatforafact.MyhighestMathstudentspenttheshortesttimeofanyoneonthattest,andwentdowninherscore.Shehasnopatienceorfocustoreallydowell.217 Jun 11, 2010 7:42 AM amoreeffectiveassessmenttoolthatconnectstomycurriculumandstatestandards218 Jun 11, 2010 3:56 PM Howdowepushourstudentsthatarealreadyreaching98%-99%percentile

219 Jun 11, 2010 9:02 PM Itisconfusingwithallthenumbersandwedidn'trecievepropertrainingonit.220 Jun 11, 2010 10:09 PM Justmoretimetoprocesswhatwe'vealreadybeenexposedtowithourteachers.221 Jun 11, 2010 10:26 PM Idon'tknowwhatyoumean.222 Jun 11, 2010 10:42 PM Morepaidtimetounderstandhowtoreallyusethisinformation.223 Jun 12, 2010 5:11 AM IneedtounderstandexactlyhowMAPrelatestothecurriculumweareusingtoteachourstudents,asidefromgeneralstrandinformation.


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Number Response Date Response Text1 Jun 7, 2010 5:17 PM IfindtheMAPtestauselesswasteoftime.IhavenointerestinteachingtotheMAPtest.2 Jun 7, 2010 5:30 PM MAPdataisveryhelpfulinteams3 Jun 7, 2010 5:31 PM Thestudentsliketohavetargetedareastoworkonwithinabroadwholelanguageapproach.4 Jun 7, 2010 5:31 PM

I'mlookingfortrendsandforareasofstrengthandweakness.Iamvery,veryconcernedaboutELLperformanceandhowmanyofmystudentsarenotabletoaccessthemathduetopastmathfailures(onecouldn'treadthewordquartersbutisabletomultipyingfractionsfluentlyinclass)5 Jun 7, 2010 5:32 PM IdonotfeelthatMAPdataisveryuseful

6 Jun 7, 2010 5:33 PM Parentconferences(formalandinformal),gradelevelmeetings,SITand504meetings,adaptationsininstruction7 Jun 7, 2010 5:36 PM

Isharethedatawithstudentsandparents.Ilookcloselyatdatainordertoinformmyinstruction.(Butamnotalwayscertainhowtodothiswithourcurrentcurriculum.)

8 Jun 7, 2010 5:36 PM MApdataisagreatoverviewofstudentprogressandhelpsimmenselywithstudentsmakingpersonalgoalsandtakingresponsabilityfortheirlearning.9 Jun 7, 2010 5:40 PM Ourschoolisnotusingit.Wearemoreinterestedinthelongtermpersonalandacademicgrowthandunderstandingofselfandothers.10 Jun 7, 2010 5:41 PM Giveusaccesstothedata

11 Jun 7, 2010 5:44 PM DesCartespagesareveryconfusingandnotnecessarilyhelpfulforteachers.Itwouldbeniceifeachstrategy/focusareacamewithanexamplesoteachersknewexactlywhatismeant.12 Jun 7, 2010 5:49 PM nothing13 Jun 7, 2010 5:54 PMCommunicatingwithparentsaboutweaknessandstrengthofthestudentsareimportant.14 Jun 7, 2010 5:55 PM doesnothelpwithplacingstudentsintoreadinggroupsasDRAdoes

15 Jun 7, 2010 5:59 PM TheMAPStestdoesnotneedtobegiven3times.Wehaveshownwithourstudentsthatgivingthetest3timessimplycreatesmorefluctuationinhowthestudentsperformed.Thetestshouldbegivenatmost,atthebeginningandendoftheyear.Themiddledatapointiscompletelyworthless.16 Jun 7, 2010 6:00 PM Idonotthinkthattheresultsforgradesk-2shouldbesenthome17 Jun 7, 2010 6:02 PM Iholdindividualgoal-settingconferenceswithmystudentstotargetarea(s)offocusforthemforthenexttrimester.

18 Jun 7, 2010 6:04 PMIuseitasageneralindicatorofstudentachievementandaguideformeasIworkindividuallywithstudents.ThisisonlyonemeasureandIthinkwearetestingtoomanytimesintheschoolyear.IbelievethatMAPtestinghasaplaceintalkingwithstudentsandinforminginstructionbutitshouldnotholdthepremierplace,andatthispointitdoes.

19 Jun 7, 2010 6:09 PM N/A20 Jun 7, 2010 6:09 PM I'mnotusingit.21 Jun 7, 2010 6:10 PM Veryusefulinconferringone-on-onewithstudentsaroundtheirreading.Motivatingforkids.

22 Jun 7, 2010 6:11 PM

IwouldliketoseedistrictsetafirmpolicyacrosstheschoolsaboutstudentswhoscorelowonMAPsandMSP.Amatrixof"nextsteps"shouldautomaticallybefollowedrequiringadditionaldata(notgrades,theybelieability)andaprogramforinterventionbeitadditionaltutoringorwhat.Iamtiredofhavingdatagounaddressedbecausethereisn'tasysteminplacetoaddresswhatthedataistellingus.

Additionally,studentsin8thgradecaremoreabouttheirtestresultswhentheyknowHSplacementmay/isplacedontheirresults.Ihad10-20kidswantredo'swhentheyfoundthisout.Allbut2didbetteronthesecondround.

23 Jun 7, 2010 6:12 PM Figureoutawaytoincludeself-containedspecialedstudentsinthetestingwindow.24 Jun 7, 2010 6:13 PM Iamnotusingit25 Jun 7, 2010 6:13 PM Inmyopinion,MAPtestingplacesanundostrainonpersonnelandresources.26 Jun 7, 2010 6:13 PM Ididn'tuseitveryoftenbecuasemanyofmystudentsahouldofhadaccomadationsfromthebeginningoftheyear.Alsoduetothehighpovertyinmyclassroommostofmystudentsdon'tevenknowhowtonavigateacomputerverywell.

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MAP in Seattle Schools June 2010What would you like to share with other teachers and central office staff about how you're using MAP data?

27 Jun 7, 2010 6:19 PM

Ithinkuntilwereallyunderstandthesescoresbetter+NWEAprocessingeneral,thisshouldbeteacher-to-studentinfoorteacher-initiatedsharedincontextofaparentconference.Idon'tthinkthisdatashouldbegoingouttoparentsgenerallyorbereflectedoneSIS.MSPfine--it'sstate-normed&produced.Andifwedidanationally-normedITBSetc.withaproventrackrecordthatwouldbeveryhelpfulforgivingusinformationvisavisstudentsnationally.Thisisnotsomethingthatwecantotallyexplainyettoparents.Soitaddshourstoouralreadyoverlyfullworkloadtohaveparentscallingusforexplanations.Perhapsthedistrictcouldformulateagenericexplanationtoparents.Infact,goodtoputontheSSDwebsite:"Wearecurrentlypilotinganinterimassessmentandwearelearningwhattheresultsmean.Youmaybecontactedbyyourchild'steachertodiscusstheseresultsinthecontextofhisorheroverallschoolwork,buttheywillnotbeposteduntilwehavemoreexperiencewiththeassessment."Thisisreallyateachertoolespeciallyuntilweunderstanditbetter.Thereareitemsthatdon'tmatchourcurrentReading/LA

curriculuminparticularwhichisstudentcenteredratherthancontentdriven...withmini-lessonstoimprovestudentreading&writingbutnotthekindofadult/college28 Jun 7, 2010 6:20 PM Howdoesthistestworkandhowisituseful?

29 Jun 7, 2010 6:22 PMI'mnot-highschoolclassesthereisnowaytoevaluateanddifferentiatefor120+studentswithouttimebeingallottedtodoso.Andeveniftherewere,whyshouldmathandLAteachersbestuckwiththisextraworkwhenscience,worldlanguagesandelectiveteachersareexempt?We'retiredofgettingalltheworkandalltheblamewhenweonlyseekidsfor


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56 Jun 7, 2010 7:22 PM Ihavefoundithelpfulincreatingbookclubsinmymiddleschoolclassroom.57 Jun 7, 2010 7:25 PM Itisonlyonemeasureofstudentgrowth.58 Jun 7, 2010 7:26 PM Nothingatthistime.Justlearning.59 Jun 7, 2010 7:26 PM ?60 Jun 7, 2010 7:27 PM I'mnotusingittoplaninstructionbecauseIdon'thavetime.61 Jun 7, 2010 7:29 PM Nothing62 Jun 7, 2010 7:35 PM Oncewegetthe8thgradedata,itwillbeusedtoinformusforthesummerBridgesprogramandFallplacement.63 Jun 7, 2010 7:36 PM Becausemostofprobalityforhighschoolgetscoveredinthe3rdyearadv.algebra,thosescorehaveawildvariationandimpacttoomuchoftheoverallresult64 Jun 7, 2010 7:39 PM It'salearningworkingprocess65 Jun 7, 2010 7:39 PM ridiculouswasteoftimeandmoney66 Jun 7, 2010 7:40 PM IamusingMAPdatatomeasureIEPprogress,ratherthanhavingtoadministeranewanddifferenttestquarterly.67 Jun 7, 2010 7:44 PM I'maspecialed.teacherandhavefoundtheMAPprogresstobeunappropriateformystudentpopulation68 Jun 7, 2010 7:45 PM Asatargetingtoolforbuildinginterventions(remedialclasses,etc)-combinedwithotherdataithelpsshowwherestudentsareat69 Jun 7, 2010 7:45 PM Idon'tbelievetheassessementsareconsistentlyvalid.70 Jun 7, 2010 7:47 PM Needlotsmoretime!71 Jun 7, 2010 7:55 PM Wespecificallyuseittoinformsystematicandflexiblegroupingsforinterventionandsmallgroupteachingintheclassroom72 Jun 7, 2010 7:57 PM n/a73 Jun 7, 2010 7:59 PM OurschoolprimarilyusesMAPdataforhelpingtodeterminewhichstudentstakemathorreadingsupportclassesandwhichlevelofmathclasstheyshouldtake.74 Jun 7, 2010 8:02 PM helpsmepushkidstoworkhardertoimprovetheirskills...studentaccountability75 Jun 7, 2010 8:03 PM notapplicabletomysubjectarea76 Jun 7, 2010 8:05 PM nothing

77 Jun 7, 2010 8:13 PMtakingstrategies-useofpaperandpencilformath

studentgoalsettinginterventionplacement

78 Jun 7, 2010 8:14 PM Dootherteachersofself-containstudentssetgoalswiththeirstudents?79 Jun 7, 2010 8:14 PM Ihavealongwaytogo,butIfeellikeIammovingintherightdirection.Thisneedstobeacollaborativeeffortbetweenteachersandstudents.Also,Ibelieveitcanbemeaningfultofamiliesoncewecanprovidemoreinformationabouthowinstructionistiedtoresults.80 Jun 7, 2010 8:14 PM Kindergartenshouldnotbetested.Developmentallyinappropriate.Wearetestingtheircomputerskills,nottheirreadingandmathskills.81 Jun 7, 2010 8:23 PM Talkwithstudentsaboutscoresandskills,createplans,stressintrinsicincentives.82 Jun 7, 2010 8:23 PM IdislikeMAPtestingstrongly.Ithinkitisnotafunctionaltoolandthereforeawasteofinstructionalminutesandagreatdealofmoney.83 Jun 7, 2010 8:24 PM Iamusingthereportstofocusonteacherprofessionaldevelopment(whichareasarestudentsperformingwellatandwhichareasmayneedmoresupport).Thentheteachermeetsweeklywiththrcoachtoplanandimplementforthoseareasaswellasgrade-bandPD.84 Jun 7, 2010 8:30 PM MAPisonlyonedatapoint.ItdoesnotmatchmyobservationsofstudentabilitybasedonrunningrecordsorCBAs.85 Jun 7, 2010 8:31 PM IamnotusingMAPdatabecauseittellsmelessthanothergaugesintheclassroom86 Jun 7, 2010 8:34 PM WeshouldlookatcompringELLswithotherdistrictsthatareusingthetest.87 Jun 7, 2010 8:42 PM

Teacher'sforthemostpartarenotusingMAPtodriveinstruction(theyhavetoomanyotherthingstodothantoanalyzethisdata).SchoolpsychologisthasusedsomedatatowriteIEPreports.ELLteacherhasusedtheresultstotraackherstudentsreadinggains.

88 Jun 7, 2010 8:47 PM Soemtimesastudentshoudlbeallowedtoretakethetesti>e.Iftheyjustcamebackinthecountryortheyonlyspentlessthan15minutesonthetest.Thistestshouldbemorethanjustaonedaymeasurement.89 Jun 7, 2010 8:51 PM I'dliketoseehowothersaresharingMAPdatawithparents,andifparentsarefindingtheMAPdatameaningful.I'dalsobeinterestedinseeinghowMAPdatacanbeincorporatedintoIEPs.90 Jun 7, 2010 8:56 PM Thedatathemselvesseemtocallintoquestionthevalidityofthisassessment.91 Jun 7, 2010 8:59 PM nothing92 Jun 7, 2010 9:00 PM Ikeepthesestatisticsforapointofreferenceusingparent/student/counselor/teachermeetings.


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93 Jun 7, 2010 9:03 PM Studentprogress94 Jun 7, 2010 9:04 PM UsingMAPdatatohelpformmygroupingsandtolookatwhatstrandsIneedtotargettohelpstudentsgrow.

95 Jun 7, 2010 9:08 PMMAPdatareinforcedthespeciallydesignedinstructionformystudents,BUTitwasNOTanaccuratedisplayofthiergrowththroughouttheyear.StudentswithSpecialNeedshavedifferentgrowthnormsthantypicallydevelopingstudents.AnalyzingtheMAPdatawashelpfulwith50%ofmystudentsbutwasnothelpfulfortheremaininghalfduetotheinaccuratetestresults(kidsjustclicking,refusal,etc.)

96 Jun 7, 2010 9:11 PM Frustratingwhendatanotavailableuponcompletion.97 Jun 7, 2010 9:12 PM

AtaHighSchoollevelitreallyisnotanassessmentthattellsusnewinformation.LookingatstudentattendanceandMSgradesisabetterindicatorofmotivationand

gradelevelcompetencies.98 Jun 7, 2010 9:12 PM NA

99 Jun 7, 2010 9:20 PM

IcreateanExcelfileofallofmystudentsandtheirfall,winterandspringscoresandincludeacolumnthatshowshowmanypointstheywentupbyfromfalltospring(orwinter).Itishelpfultoarrangethestudentsbytheirfallscoreandseewhichofmystudentstendedtoincreasetheirscoresthemost.WhenIdidthisafterthewintertest,IfoundthatIwasreallyreachingmyloweststudents,butmaynothavebeenchallengingmyhigherstudentsenough.Ichangedmypracticeabit,andsawbetterresultsatthehighendinthespringresults.100 Jun 7, 2010 9:23 PM IamgoingtoseehowDRAscoresrelatetoreadingresultsontheMAP(Ihaven'tgiventheDRAyet.)101 Jun 7, 2010 9:28 PM Itisstillverydisconnected.

102 Jun 7, 2010 9:38 PM Ilikeit'susefulnessforshowingprogresswithoutcomparisontoothers.103 Jun 7, 2010 9:48 PM It'salotofdatatosiftthroughatfirstglance104 Jun 7, 2010 9:52 PM Cannotyetapplydatatostudents105 Jun 7, 2010 9:54 PM

Thisistoomuchtesting.RTIexpertshavetoldmethatbythehighschoollevel,wehavemuchofthedataalready.Totakevaluableclasstimeawayfromthestudentsforthepurposeoftestingisridiculousandcounterproductive.Studentsstoptakingthetestsseriouslysothedataisnothelpful.106 Jun 7, 2010 9:59 PM N/A107 Jun 7, 2010 9:59 PM Ihavedonetwodifferentiationladders,butcan'tseehowIcouldpossiblydothisonaregularbasis.Itisverytime-consuming.

108 Jun 7, 2010 10:03 PM Lookatthedataanddoactivitiestosupportstudentlearningintheareasindicated.109 Jun 7, 2010 10:05 PM Isharescoreswithmyfamilies,butemphasizethatthescoresdonotalwaysdirectlycorrespondtotheirsuccessinclass.110 Jun 7, 2010 10:06 PM Ihavenotusedthedata.

111 Jun 7, 2010 10:07 PM

ThereadingdataisnothelpfulforK/1levelreaders.Icanlookatascore,knowhowastudentcomparestoaverage,buthavenoconcreteinformationonwhatkindofreadertheyare.Whatmistakesdotheymake?Whatstrategiesdotheyuseornotuse?Whatpersonalconnectionsaretheymakingfromthereadingtheyaredoing?Answerstothesequestionsarewhatinformmyinstruction.Icangettheseanswersonlybylisteningtostudentsread.TheDRAisasignificantlymoreeffectiveandusefulassessmentforK/1.

112 Jun 7, 2010 10:17 PM Let'suseothertestingtoevaluatestudents--notjustMAP--Iknowthereareothertests--butMAPisgainingimportance113 Jun 7, 2010 10:18 PM IusetheMAPdatatohelpstudentssetindividualgoalsforreadingimprovementandspecificareastheyneedtoworkonintheirreading.114 Jun 7, 2010 10:24 PM Iworkwithmystudentsinsmallgroupsinreadingandmathdaily.TheinformationthatIgainthroughinstructionismorevaluableandmorevalidthattheMAPtest.115 Jun 7, 2010 10:34 PM ToinformhowdirectinterventionimprovesstudentperformanceontheMAP116 Jun 7, 2010 10:35 PM Itisnicetohaveanotherpointofdata.Iamaspecialedteacheranditishelpfultohavemoreinformationtoseehowmystudentsaregrowing.117 Jun 7, 2010 10:37 PM Iamusingittoinforminstruction

118 Jun 7, 2010 10:40 PM

Ilookatit,butitisreallynotthathelpful.IgetmoreinformationfromEDMchecklists,spellinginventories,phonicsassessment,guidedreading,etc.TheLexilescoreformysecondgradersdidn'tevenmatchwhatIamgettingfromtheDRA(whichIknowisaccucrate,becauseIhavebeentrainedinthecorrectwaytoadministeritandwhat'typicalmistakes'arethatteachersmake.IgetsomuchmoreinformationworkingwithmystudentsthanfromMAPdata.Plus,doyoureallyexpectmetoprintoff15pages,tapethemtogether,strapthemtomywallandgostudentbystudentinplanning-IhavemoreefficientwaystodothisandIdon'teventrustthatthedataisaccurateininformingmewhatmystudentsabilitiesare.

119 Jun 7, 2010 10:44 PM Thereshouldbealargertestingwindow.Testingstudentsinthemorninginonetestingwindow,asIdidinthewinterandfall,andthentestingthemthelasthalfhouroftheday,asIdidintheSpringisavariableweshouldbeabletocontrolwithalargertestingwindow.120 Jun 7, 2010 10:44 PM Theteststaketolongandtaketoomuchtimeoutofmystudentslearningtime.121 Jun 7, 2010 10:45 PM IthelpsmeseewhereIneedtofocusfutureinstruction.122 Jun 7, 2010 10:50 PM Itisgoodforfindingextensionactivitiesformyhighreadinggroup.


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123 Jun 7, 2010 10:56 PM nothingatthistime124 Jun 7, 2010 10:57 PM It'sgreattohavedatatosupportteacherinputaboutindividualstudents-especiallywhentalkingwithparents.125 Jun 7, 2010 11:05 PM

Thereissomuchdatathatitisdifficulttodecidewherethefocusshouldbe.Mostlythereportsjusttellme(whatImostlyalreadyknow)isthatmyclassisdiversewithawiderangeofabilities.126 Jun 7, 2010 11:08 PM transitionalkindergartenhaslittleabilitytousecomputerequipmentwhicheffectstesting

127 Jun 7, 2010 11:11 PMIuseMAPdataasonepieceofmytriangulationtoudnerstandastudent'sacademicstrengthsandweaknesses.Ibelievethedistrictmustdothesamewhengradingme,myschooland/ormystudents.Forexample,Ihavemany,manystudentswhoshowed1.5yearsgrowthintheirDRAorTCreadingassessments,butnotinMAP.

Thisissignificant!Ihopesuchgrowthwillnotbeignored.

128 Jun 7, 2010 11:12 PMNotterriblyusefulforinforminginstuctionforhighlygiftedkids--thelackofan"Idon'tknow"optionleadsthemtomakeeducatedguessesandthereforetheyscoreatamuchhigherlevelthantheyareabletoperformatindependentlywhennotgivenamulitple-choiceproblem(esp.formath).However,MAPdatahashelpedmetoidentifystrandswheremyentireclassneedsmoresupport.129 Jun 7, 2010 11:22 PM Whenweputallourstudentdataonone"histogram"-wecouldseehowweneedtobettersupportparticulargradelevelsasawhole130 Jun 7, 2010 11:29 PM Weareusingitasonedatapoint.Inreadingithashelpedkeepusaccountableforourrunningrecords.Iwouldliketofindanotherdatapointformath.

131 Jun 7, 2010 11:30 PM

Iamextremelyconcernedaboutlearningstyledifferencesamongstudents.Iobservedstudentswhowerehighlymotivatedtoworkthrough52mathquestions,reasoningtheirwaythrougheachproblem.Iobservedotherstudentswhowiltedpartwaythrough.Manystudentsneedfeedbackalongtheway.Manystudentsneedasocialcontextinwhichtodotheirbest.Somestudentsneedtheoptionofskippingaquestion,togobacktoitlater.Somestudentsdon'thaveenoughattentionspantostickwithitfor52questions.Idon'tfeelthattheMAPfall-to-springscoresaccuratelygaugehowmuchmanystudentslearned.132 Jun 7, 2010 11:30 PM UsingtheLaddersisreallyhelpful

133 Jun 7, 2010 11:46 PM Ifinditinterestingasjustonemeasureofgrowth,alongwithclasswork,studentperformance,andtheunderstandingstheyshowinthewholeclassmakeup.Istillthinknotestcanshowwhattheteacherknowsandseesdailythroughoutayear.Itisonlyanotherbitofinformationtounderstandwhatachildmayknow.134 Jun 7, 2010 11:47 PM Notmuch.I'mnotafanoftheMAPatthispoint.135 Jun 8, 2010 12:18 AM LOokingatgrowthpatterns.136 Jun 8, 2010 12:21 AM none137 Jun 8, 2010 12:37 AM IhaveusedittospeaktothecorrelationbetweenstudentswhoworkhardinschoolanddowellontheMAPtest.138 Jun 8, 2010 1:01 AM

Thesetestresultsarefartoovague.Inlowerreadingcomprehensionscores,thereisnodataofwhetherthechildhasmoretroublewithMainIdea,sequencing,details,etc,etc.Samewithwordrecognition---nousefulspecifics.Trueinmathaswell.Therresultsarenotidividualize.139 Jun 8, 2010 1:29 AM can'tthinkofanythinginparticular

140 Jun 8, 2010 2:57 AM UntilwecreatesomeschoolwideplanforusingMAPdata,it'snotterriblyuseful.141 Jun 8, 2010 4:03 AM

Itwouldbeextremlyhelpfuliftherewasalineshowingthestudentsprogressorlackofinbetweensemesters.Thatwayteacherscouldquicklyassesswhoismakingprogressormeetingthestatestandardandwhoisnot.142 Jun 8, 2010 4:06 AM Asoneformofmultipleassessments.Itdoesn'tgivetheoverallviewofwhatstudentsknowandunderstand,butitcangiveusapieceofthepuzzle.143 Jun 8, 2010 4:43 AM triangulatingwithotherdata

144 Jun 8, 2010 5:01 AMIT'SJUSTASETOFNUMBERS-ITDOESN'TRELATETODETAILEDCOMPREHENSIONOFREADINGALONGERPASSAGE,ORSHOWINGHOWYOUSOLVEAMULTI-STEPPROBLEM.MSPISMORELIKEWHATWEDODAILYTHANMAP.THATSAID,ITISHELPFULTOCHARTSTUDENTGROWTHFROMTHEEARLYGRADESTOTHEUPPERONES.ISMAPTHEBESTTOOLFORTHAT?????????????

145 Jun 8, 2010 5:29 AMItisverydifficultforstudentstoreadoncomputerscreens.Thispreventsmanystudentsfrombeingabletoaccuratelytrackwhattheyarereading,leadingtostudentsrushingthroughcertainpassages.146 Jun 8, 2010 5:35 AM Thistestisawasteoftimeandmoney.

147 Jun 8, 2010 8:03 AM

Itisdifficulttotalkaboutastudent'sspecificstrengthswithoutknowingthetestquestionsandthestudent'sanswers.Also,thereadingportionofthetestseemsto

focusonLatinandrootwordsasstudentsmoveintothehigherlevelsofthetest.Formanyofmyhighreaders,theygettothispointinthetestandbecomefrustratedbecausewedonotteachLatinandrootwordsintheprimarygrades.Also,severalofmystudentscommentedthatthelettering(fontandfontsize)makesitdifficultforthemtoreadthetestitems.148 Jun 8, 2010 2:23 PM Usingasanotherdatapointtohelpgroupstudentsforsmallgroupinstruction

149 Jun 8, 2010 2:34 PM Itisbeingusedforhighleveladministrativeandprogrambaseddecisions,butnotreallyattheclassroomandstudentlevel.


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150 Jun 8, 2010 3:19 PM N/A151 Jun 8, 2010 3:20 PM Usingitasanotherassessment.152 Jun 8, 2010 3:59 PM usefultooltosharewithparents153 Jun 8, 2010 4:03 PM Nothanks.154 Jun 8, 2010 4:33 PM Toomuchdata.Waytoomuchoveralltestingforkids.

155 Jun 8, 2010 4:33 PM

Itisnotveryusefulatall.Itismorepaperworkforourtechperson.Itdoesnotshowgrowth(yet)astheprogramdevelopersthemselvesstatethatittakes16entries.Parentsaretroubledbyoursuperintendent'sinvolvementwiththeboardoftheMAPcreators.Itellthemtheyarecorrecttobeconcerned.MAPtakesawayany

differentiationthatImightbepronetoprovide,asitclearlygearsyoutowardsteachingtothelowerendofyourclassroom.Thisisabadchoiceforourstudentsandcommunity.

156 Jun 8, 2010 5:05 PMI'mnotusingitbecauseIdon'tteachninthgraders.Buttheymonopolizethecomputerlabsforafourthoftheyear,soitaffectsmeinthatway.

157 Jun 8, 2010 5:06 PM IhavenothadmuchtimetolookatMAPdata.Whyisthedistrictusingthesescoresforstudentplacementwhenweweretoldthatthisisjusttoinforminstruction?

158 Jun 8, 2010 5:26 PMIcannotusedatathatshowsnopatternsorshowsstudentsgettingworseinthesubjectIteachovertheyear.Icannotusedatathatcomesfromstudentsplayingatacomputerandnottakingthetestseriously.Therearenostakesforthistestandthereforenoeffort.Evenifweinventedstakesforthistest,studentshavetest-fatiqueandhavecometonotcare.

159 Jun 8, 2010 5:27 PMWhatworkedwhencoordinatingtheMAPtests.Trouble-shootingMAPadministration.

160 Jun 8, 2010 6:43 PM

Itisnotwellsupportedatourschool.PrimarystudentscannotlogthemselvesinandsoourLAPteacherdoesit.SothenkidsarenotbeingservedforLAP.Perhapsifthedistricthasthistestofferedasameansofhelpinginforminstructionforteachers,andweallcelebrateitsvalidity,thenperhapssomeonecanoffersupportingettingkidsloggedintoexpeditethetestingprocess.ThehelpitoffersusasteachersisNOTWORTHthehasslethatitcreatesintakingawayourLAPinstructorforseveralweeksayear.

161 Jun 8, 2010 7:15 PM thedatacollecteddoesnotalignwiththecurriculaorthestatestandards.162 Jun 8, 2010 7:39 PM nothing163 Jun 8, 2010 8:08 PM Ithinkthisisaveryusefulassessmenttooltoinformandcustomizeinstructionforstudents164 Jun 8, 2010 8:13 PM IfindtheMAPdataextremelyhelpfulwhenwritingIEPsformystudents.165 Jun 8, 2010 8:15 PM nottotallyusingmapdata.166 Jun 8, 2010 8:40 PM idon'tknowhowtouseityet167 Jun 8, 2010 8:52 PM

Pleasegivespecialiststheabilitytoaccessthedata.Iwoulduseittoguideinstruction,butfindingtimetomeetw/teachersisdifficult.Iwouldliketobeabletoaccessitwithoutaskingteachers.168 Jun 8, 2010 9:30 PM ifwehaveapacingcalendarwhereisthetimeforremediation

169 Jun 8, 2010 9:50 PM Nothingatthistime.

170 Jun 8, 2010 10:14 PM Icreatedmyownsheetsforstudents,hadthemmaptheirdata,reflectontheriseandfalloftheirgrades;butworkingwiththeparticularskillsiswheretherealwealthofinformationlies,andthisishardtoteaseoutforindividualstudentswithoutrelyingontheNWEAformsthatlumpkidstogetherorwastelotsofpaper.171 Jun 8, 2010 10:48 PM IneedmoreideasabouthowtochangemyinstructiontomeettheneedsofMAP.172 Jun 8, 2010 11:05 PM MAPisveryusefuldataiftheyanalyzewhatMAPtestsstudents.IdidthisthestudentsdidwellduringthespringMAPassessment.173 Jun 8, 2010 11:29 PM Ilookatthescoresandthepercentileandthenanalyzethestrandgrowth.

174 Jun 8, 2010 11:31 PMSofarIhaveonlybeenabletouseittoconfirmwhatIalreadyknowaboutmystudentsthroughclassroombasedassessments.Ithasnotinformedmyinstruction,ledtoanychangeinpractice,orhelpedmeunderstandmystudents.IthasonlyreciprocatedwhatI'vealreadyknown-nicetohaveitconfirmed,butI'dliketobeabletouseitotherwise.

175 Jun 9, 2010 12:07 AM IdonotbelieveMAPisanaccuratedatapointforbeginningreaders.MAPdoesnotcorrelateotherdatafromtheclassroom,DRA,orobservations.176 Jun 9, 2010 12:46 AM weusetheMAPdatatoinformclassroominstruction


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177 Jun 9, 2010 5:05 AM

AttheKlevel,thescoresarenotagoodenoughreflectionastohowthestudentsaredoing,sincenotallofthemhavecomputersathomeandthusfoundthetasksoverwhelmingattimes.ThescoresdocorrespondwithhowIhaveassessedthestudentsashigh,mediumandlow,however,theydonotprovidetheinformationthatone-on-oneassessmentsdo.

178 Jun 9, 2010 2:40 PMTheMAPisnotalignedtoourcurriculum-theWashingtonstateEALRs,GLEs,andPEs.IdonotunderstandhowIamsupposedtouseanon-aligned,norm-referenced,highlyculturallybiasedassessmenttoinformmyinstruction.179 Jun 9, 2010 2:57 PM Thequickturnaroundforresultsandtheoptiontohavedatainnumberandgraphformathasbeenthemosthelpfulformeandforusingwithstudents.

180 Jun 9, 2010 3:33 PM becausetherewaslittleconnectiontothestudentsdirectlyaboutthetestitselfandtheyseldomknewreallywhattoexpectand/orwhatpruposewasserved,theygotboredwithitanddidnottrytheirbest.181 Jun 9, 2010 6:08 PM

Maptestinghasdonemoreharmthengood.Ourlibraryhasbeenclosed(3times)forweeksatatime.ItisimpossibletodifferentiateAlgebra1whentheskilllevelsaresodiscrepant.182 Jun 9, 2010 6:35 PM Itisawasteofmytime.183 Jun 9, 2010 8:04 PM MapDataisNotAuthentic.Notauthentic.184 Jun 9, 2010 10:08 PM IwouldlikespecifictrainingonusingMaptestingtoguidemyinstructioninthemathematicsclassroom.

185 Jun 9, 2010 11:02 PM ThescoresaredifferentfromwhatIseeonadaytodaybasis.Someofmystudentswhooperateatamuchhigherleveldidnotdoaswellastheydoonadailybasis.Isthetestatrueindicationofthestudent'sacademicgrowth?Whatifachildisnotfeelingwellandthereforedidnotdoaswellastheymighthave?186 Jun 10, 2010 1:04 AM WeneedtocontinuetouseMAPtoinforminstructionandtocommunicatewithstudentsandparents(aswellasstaff)academicgrowth.

187 Jun 10, 2010 3:17 AM

Well,sincethemajorityofourkidsaretesting4yearsabovegradelevel,we'retryingtofigureouttheappropriatenessofprovidinghighschoolinstructionfor2/3ofourkidsinordertomovethemalongthecontinuum.Notsurehowourparentswoudrespondtoourmovingfrom6thgradenovelstoadultpoetry,Shakespeareandadultreadingbookswithsexualcontentthatarereadin9thgrade.I'mbeingsarcastic,butseriously,howcanwebeexpectedtohaveanimpactinthedataonthegrowthofkidstesting4yearsabovelevel?Theyarelearningplenty,butmaynotmoveonthecontinuumbecausetheyarenotlearninghighschoolcontent.

188 Jun 10, 2010 3:11 PMIhaveahardtimeusingtheMAPdatabecauseIseesignificantdiscrepenciesbetweenmyobservationsofstudentlearningandotherassessmentscomparedtothe

MAPdata.

189 Jun 10, 2010 5:41 PMThatweareusingitasatooltoassesswhereourstudentsareintheirdevlopementinMathandtheirprogress.Wehopetousethedatatoplacestudentsappropriatelyininterventionandorenrichmentclasses.

190 Jun 10, 2010 5:49 PM Notcertain

191 Jun 10, 2010 6:15 PM

IthinkweneedtobeclearonhowMAPdataisgoingtobeused.Thetrainingshavefocusedoninstructional/classroomuse,butitseemslikeeverymonthwehearaboutanewwayit'sbeingusedfordecisionmakingoraccountabilityinsomeway.ThisisOK,aslongaswe'rehonestaboutitanddon'tpretendMAPisallaboutinstructionandnotaboutmakingdecisions.

FranklyIhaven'tfoundMAPthatusefulformakingday-to-dayinstructionaldecisions.Goodtohave,though.

IwouldliketohaveanideaofwhatthePDisgoingtobeaboutnextyear,giventhatwe'redevotingalotoftimetoit.192 Jun 10, 2010 8:40 PM Iamusingittolookatoverallgrowth,analyzingwhereitoccuredandthentryingtofigureoutwhatwearedoingright.193 Jun 11, 2010 2:54 AM Nothingatthistime.Ifeeltoofrustrated.194 Jun 11, 2010 3:10 AM

Asaspecialeducationfortheprimarygrades,IamusingtheMAPSscreenertoidentifystrengths,weaknesses,&theabilityofmystudentstogeneralizetheirknowledgetoadifferentformat(languageusedduringassessment&methodofresponding).195 Jun 11, 2010 7:42 AM thisisawasteoftime196 Jun 11, 2010 3:56 PM Ithinkitisaveryusefultooltodeterminestudentgrowth.Ithinkitisusefuldataforallteachers,regardlessofcontentarea.

197 Jun 11, 2010 6:55 PM MAPforkindergartenisnotreliableandtakesuptoomuchtimeforthequalityoftheinformation.Overall,MAPisusefulbutextremelytimeconsuming,itisanunfundedmandateatthistime.198 Jun 11, 2010 9:44 PM Iwouldrathernotspendthetimetestingmystudentsinsteadofteachingthem.199 Jun 11, 2010 9:44 PM Thelibraryisclosedtoolongduringtheschoolyearforclassestoattendtogetherwithourlibrarian.Hehelpsproctortheexams.


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200 Jun 11, 2010 10:09 PMIbeleivethistobeahighlyuseful,butfairlycomplicatedtool.Ithinkweneedtobecarefulasasystemwithhowweare,infact,providing"justintime"PDforteachersandtherightcommunicationswithfamilies.Inorderforteacherstotrulymakeeffectiveinstructionaldecisionsbasedonthisdata,theyneedtimeandopportunitytoreallyunderstanditinsmaller,moremanageablepieces.

201 Jun 11, 2010 10:26 PM HowthistiesinwithEDM.202 Jun 11, 2010 10:42 PM IfIwasdoingso,yes,ofcourse!203 Jun 12, 2010 5:11 AM Ifindtheinformationhighlyspecifictodataandstatistics,notuserfriendlytoteachers,whoarenotusuallystatisticians.


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N um ber Res po ns e Da te Other (pleasespecify)1 Jun 7, 2010 7:42 PM soonertheygetridofMAPtestingthebetter2 Jun 7, 2010 8:03 PM otherstaff3 Jun 7, 2010 8:06 PM TheLibrarianbutonlyaboutthereadingresults,notsureifsheistheMAPlead4 Jun 7, 2010 8:25 PM JessicadeBarros5 Jun 7, 2010 8:34 PM ourlibrarin6 Jun 7, 2010 8:35 PM noneoftheabove7 Jun 7, 2010 8:44 PM myprincipal8 Jun 7, 2010 8:53 PM MAPteammembers,otherstaffmembers9 Jun 7, 2010 9:53 PM Ididn'tknowwhotocontact-Iusuallyfigureditoutmyselforwenttoourprincipal10 Jun 7, 2010 9:58 PM NA

11 Jun 7, 2010 10:35 PM ourtechpeopleorRobertBernstein12 Jun 7, 2010 10:46 PM teacherinbuilding13 Jun 8, 2010 12:48 AM Myprincipal14 Jun 8, 2010 1:29 AM MySchool'sComputerSpecialist15 Jun 8, 2010 2:57 AM andET16 Jun 8, 2010 1:52 PM didnotknowtherewassupportavailableforquestions17 Jun 8, 2010 3:22 PM computerteacher18 Jun 8, 2010 3:25 PM Ihadtopickoneanswere...butreallyitalkedtoOtherteachers,notmapleads19 Jun 8, 2010 5:29 PM20 Jun 8, 2010 8:49 PM AnotherTeacher21 Jun 9, 2010 2:18 PM Principal22 Jun 10, 2010 5:44 PM Ourassistantprincipal

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N umb er R es po ns e D at e Other (pleasespecify)1 Jun 7, 2010 5:25 PM othercoworkers2 Jun 7, 2010 6:14 PM IrequestdirectlyfromtheMAPspeopledowntown.IwantFRLdatatoexaminegrowthandinterventioncorrelation!3 Jun 7, 2010 7:16 PM mycolleaguesMelindaBallockorDebGallaher4 Jun 7, 2010 7:30 PM Schoolprincipal5 Jun 7, 2010 7:42 PM SPSmotto:test,test,test,test6 Jun 7, 2010 7:55 PM Datacoach??????7 Jun 7, 2010 8:03 PM otherstaff8 Jun 7, 2010 8:05 PM Ifigureitoutmyself.9 Jun 7, 2010 8:06 PM Myschoollibrarian10 Jun 7, 2010 8:25 PM JessicadeBarros11 Jun 7, 2010 8:35 PM principal12 Jun 7, 2010 9:17 PM collegues13 Jun 7, 2010 9:52 PM SusanKnutsen

14 Jun 7, 2010 9:53 PM Principal15 Jun 7, 2010 10:46 PM Teacherinbuilding16 Jun 7, 2010 10:49 PM colleague17 Jun 8, 2010 12:48 AM myprinicpal18 Jun 8, 2010 1:03 AM relyingonmaterialsprovidedbyNWEAtrainer19 Jun 8, 2010 1:29 AM MySchool'sComputerSpecialist20 Jun 8, 2010 2:57 AM andET21 Jun 8, 2010 1:52 PM noone22 Jun 8, 2010 3:22 PM computerteacher23 Jun 8, 2010 3:25 PM IhadtopickananswerbutreallyitalkedtoOtherteachers,notmapleads24 Jun 8, 2010 3:43 PM otherteachers25 Jun 8, 2010 6:44 PM fellowteachers26 Jun 8, 2010 8:49 PM AnotherTeacher27 Jun 8, 2010 10:32 PM Personinourschoolwhoknowsmorethananydatacoach28 Jun 8, 2010 11:35 PM readthenweawebsite29 Jun 9, 2010 2:18 PM Principal30 Jun 10, 2010 5:44 PM Assistantprincipal31 Jun 10, 2010 10:25 PM Acolleague32 Jun 11, 2010 9:45 PM myviceprincipal33 Jun 12, 2010 3:41 AM thereadingspecialistatschool

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1 Jun 7, 2010 5:14 PM MAPtestingtakeswaytoomuchtimeoutofinstruction.2 Jun 7, 2010 5:17 PM Dropthistest.3 Jun 7, 2010 5:19 PM IwouldhavelikedtohavetheMAPspringtestingwindowlaterintheyear,likerightnow.Itwouldthenbeatruemeasureofgrowthfortheyear.4 Jun 7, 2010 5:27 PM LosingLibraryfortwoweekswasnothelpfulformystudentsatall.5 Jun 7, 2010 5:31 PM None6 Jun 7, 2010 5:34 PM MOtivationwasinconsistentforthespringtest.

7 Jun 7, 2010 5:36 PMSometeacherswerenothappywiththeirmapscoresandhadstudentstakethetest2or3timesuntiltheyachievedascorethatshowedgains...thisseemsaverydisingenouswaytogatherdataandshouldbediscouragedno?I'msureifIhadsomeofmystudentsretakeit2or3timestheywouldhavealsohadgainsbutwhatamIdoingtothatstudentandhowisthedataringingtrueisweallowsomanyretakes?8 Jun 7, 2010 5:36 PM Timelineforlargeschoolsmustbeextended.9 Jun 7, 2010 5:37 PM Wecouldusemorecomputersatourschool.

10 Jun 7, 2010 5:39 PMIwonderifstudentswereatadisadvantagewhohadtotest6thperiodforeachcycle.Mystudentshadonetestinterrupedbyafiredrill.Onanothertestdate,onethirdoftheclassleftpart-waythroughforatrackmeet.Ijustdon'tthinkkidsperformaswellwhenhavingtoresumethetestthenextday.Itwouldbegreatiftherewereawayforstudentstoalltestinthea.m.,likewedoforMSP.11 Jun 7, 2010 5:41 PM Needastaffpersontologinstudents12 Jun 7, 2010 5:42 PM Don'tmakeissoclosetotheWASL

13 Jun 7, 2010 5:44 PMItisalotoftesting,especiallysincethesestudentsalsohavetotaketheMSP.Italsomeansthatthereare10weekseachyearwhereourlibraryisunavailableto

otherstudents.

14 Jun 7, 2010 5:45 PM Itwashardtogofroma3weekMAPwindowtoa2weekMSPwindowwithonlyaweekinbetween.Thesamefolkscoordinatedboth,soitwaslikea5weekassesmentwindowforcoordinators.15 Jun 7, 2010 5:51 PM toomuchstandardizedtesting;MANYstudentslackedmotivation.16 Jun 7, 2010 5:53 PM Makesitdifficulttoscheduleclassesinthelibrarytodoresearch.17 Jun 7, 2010 5:56 PM Kkidsstrugglewithlogisticsoftech,fallisTOOOOOOearlytomandateKkidstobeonthecomputerinahighstakestest18 Jun 7, 2010 5:57 PM ExtrapeopletohelpadministeringMAPtests19 Jun 7, 2010 5:57 PM WhyTHREEtimesayear?WhyNOTfallandspring?ThisNINEweeksofthelabbeingusedforassessments!!!20 Jun 7, 2010 6:02 PM Thistestisverytimeconsuming.ThedistrictshouldconsiderhiringMAPcoachesasthereshouldalwaysbeaproctorintheroomduetotheuseofthesescoreseventuallybeingtiedtoteacherperformance.Therewillbecheating--sadbuttrue.21 Jun 7, 2010 6:03 PM weneedheadphonesthatfitthesmallheadsof5-7yearolds,buttheschoolbudgethasnowiggleroom.Usingamouseproperlyisnotdevelopmentlyapropriateforkindergartenersexpeciallywhenwedonthaveanyclassroomcomputerstopracticeon.22 Jun 7, 2010 6:06 PM verytimeconsuming

23 Jun 7, 2010 6:07 PM

Thetestdoesnotneedtobegiven3timesduringtheschoolyear.Themiddledatapointistotallyworthlesstothesystem.Thisyear,theinitialtestingwindowwastooclosetothebeginningofschoolformanystudentstobetrulyinvested,andthefinaltestingwindowwastooearlysoitwasnotafairevaluationoftheentireyear'sprogress.Additionallyconsideringhowmuchcomputerlabtimewelostinadministratingthistestvs.whatcouldhavebeendoneinactualteachercurriculumitis

completelynotworthit.Ourschoollost25%ofitsavailablecomputerlabtimetotheMAPStest,unnecessaryandunfairtoteachers.24 Jun 7, 2010 6:10 PM Isentyouane-mailrelatedtoMAPdiscussingfourconcernsIhavewiththetesting.KitMcCormick,Garfield25 Jun 7, 2010 6:11 PM Icouldonlytestonestudentatatimesoitwasverytimeconsumingtotestmyclass.26 Jun 7, 2010 6:14 PM Itisnotusefulinhighschoolanddrainsresourcesthatstudentsneedforgraduation,includingaccesstocomputersanduseofinstructionalandstudentworktime...weeitherneedmorecomputersorlesstesting

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27 Jun 7, 2010 6:14 PMIttakesuplabtimeneededforclasses.Ialsowouldliketoseetheorderofthetestreversed(readingthenmath)justtoseeifthedatachanges.Kidsaretestfatiguedbythetimetheygettothereadingtestwhichmightimpactourresultsnegatively.

28 Jun 7, 2010 6:15 PMTherewereoftentimesthatmyMAPleaddidn'thaveanswerstoquestions....Specificallyaboutaccomadations.Thereadingaccomadationsarequestionableaswell.Ifstudentsarep[ermittedheadphoneshowcanIreallytellhowwelltheycanreadforinformationVs.listeningforinformation.

29 Jun 7, 2010 6:16 PMAsIcommentedearlier,MAPisverytaxingonpersonnelandresources.Itmonopolizedthelibraryandcomputerlabsforasignificantamountoftimethisyearanditlookslikeevenmoretimewillbecommittednextyear,takingourtechnologyandlibraryresourcesawayfromourstudentsfortesting.

30 Jun 7, 2010 6:19 PM

Ourinfrastructureisdefinitelydeclininginit'sabilitytodealwithMAP&thevolumeofuseoverthecourseofMAPwindows.Wehaveafewfreeze-upsperday.MAP

itselfwilldeliverablankscreenoronlypartialdata.Weworkaroundthisbymovingstudentstoadifferentcomputerwhenoneisavailable,thenreboot&dotheduallogon&testselection(3steps)ontheerrantcomputer.Whenthereisn'tafreecomputer,wedothesame&thestudentjusthastowaitforthecomputertoberebooted,&loggedon.ItwillbeinterestingtoseeifThin-Clienttechnologywillhelpuswithsomeoftheissues.#ofcomputerstoefficientlyadministerthetestisanongoingchallenge.31 Jun 7, 2010 6:19 PM Kindergartenneededmiceinsteadoffingerpadsonthefirsttest.Toodifficultforseveralkidswhojustlackedfinemotorskills...32 Jun 7, 2010 6:20 PM Ittakesuptoomuchclasstimewithnovalueadded.33 Jun 7, 2010 6:21 PM Isthereaconnectionbetweenoursuperintendent'sMAPboardmembershipandthedistrict'suseofthistest?34 Jun 7, 2010 6:22 PM Itwasn'tcleartomehowmuchweshoulddiscussscoreswithstudentsbeforeorafterthetest.

35 Jun 7, 2010 6:25 PM Ourcomputerlabsareclosedtoclassesfortwoweeks,threetimesayearbecauseofthisuselesstest.Meanwhileourlabsareunavailableforotherproductiveeducationalactivitieslikeresearch36 Jun 7, 2010 6:33 PM ItisdifficultwhenalltheschoolscomputersarebeingusedfortwoorthreeweeksfortheMAPtesting.37 Jun 7, 2010 6:45 PM

Ittooktoomuchtimeandkidsdidnottakeitseriously.Thereportsdidnotcomeorcouldnotbecompiledsowehadtodoitbyhandwhichgaveusnotimetousethedataforinstruction.

38 Jun 7, 2010 6:49 PM Motivationlevelonthetestvarriedalot.Generally,thefirsttofinishtehtesthadthelowestgradeintheclassandthelastthehighest.Whilenotproofofeffort,itisastrongcoorelation,39 Jun 7, 2010 6:49 PM n/a40 Jun 7, 2010 6:50 PM IhopethatthisdoesnotbecomethemostsignificantmeasureofstudentprogressbecauseIdonotbelieveitisveryaccurate.41 Jun 7, 2010 6:55 PM IwasabsentonthespringMAPSduetofamilymedicalsituation,butIdofeeltheywouldhavedonebetterwithmethere.42 Jun 7, 2010 7:03 PM

Someofourolderstudentsstilldidnottakethetestseriously.Nowthatweunderstandhowtousethedata,Ihopetheteacherswilldoabetterjobofpreparingstudentstodotheirbestonthetest.

43 Jun 7, 2010 7:03 PM Moreinforamtiononstudentswhowanttoretakeandhowtheirscoresareincludedintheresults44 Jun 7, 2010 7:05 PM moretraining45 Jun 7, 2010 7:05 PM Itisverytimeconsumingandtakesupourcomputerlab,whichisinourlibraryformanydays,whichmeanskidsdon'thaveaccesstobooks.

46 Jun 7, 2010 7:06 PMAdministeringMAPtooksubstantialtimeandresourcefromastaffmemberwhowasnothiredwithMAPadministrationdutiesonhisjobdescription.Hehadtodropasubstantialamountofhisworkthathewashiredtodooffofhisschedule.HowcansuchatimeconsumingassessmentsuchasMAPbeputintoplacewithoutfundingaMAPadministrator?Itdoesn'tseemright.

47 Jun 7, 2010 7:09 PM Giventheimportancethedistrictandadministrators(principalsincluded)haveplacedontheMAP,IdidnotlikethatmyclasshadtotakeitattheveryendofeachdayontheverylastweekofMAPtestingtime.Notimeformakeups,amongotherthings.48 Jun 7, 2010 7:09 PM

Forsomereason,someofmystudentsscoresshowedup.Eveniftheywereabsentoneday,theydidtheirtestonthemake-upday.ImadesurethatALLofmystudentsweretested,butsomescoreswerenotavailable.Thisisfrustrating.49 Jun 7, 2010 7:11 PM timeframe--Aprilwasjusttoooooosoon.DoafterMSP

50 Jun 7, 2010 7:12 PM Ifelttherewerealotofglitchesintheadministrationofthetests.Teachersneedtobebettertrained.51 Jun 7, 2010 7:15 PM Ourschoolisfortunateenoughtohaveacomputerlabandalabstaffersotheschedulingwasdonebyhim.Unfortunatelyitmeantnoonecouldusethelabfor9weeksoutoftheyearasitwastiedupforabout3weeksperadministration.Thatwasadefinitedownside.52 Jun 7, 2010 7:17 PM DoestheMAPscoreaffectwhatMathclassstudentswillgointointhe6thgrade.Andifso,whatMAPscoredotheyneedtobeplacedinanadvancedclass?53 Jun 7, 2010 7:19 PM Totalchaosintryingtofitsomanyclassesinsuchashortperiodoftime.Veryunmanageable!


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54 Jun 7, 2010 7:22 PM

IhaveheardconflictingthingsaboutwhatEXACTLYtheMAPdatatellsus.IhaveheardthatitisreflectiveofwhatthestudentknowsandalsothatitISN'T.Howmuchimportanceistobeplacedonthisassessment?Also,Iwouldliketoknowhowthedistrictwillusethescoresfortheschoolreportcards/annualreports.Ihadmanystudentswhointhefalltestedoutoftheirgradelevelandtheninthewinterorspringscoredlower,butstillwellabovegradelevel.Thesestudentswerepartofthe'notenoughtypicalgrowth'group.However,theyweretestingoutat9th-11thgrademathskills.Does/Willthisaffectthereportnegativelyifthedataissimplybeingrecorded/reportedfromtheNWEAreports?Ihavebigquestionsabouthowuseful/accessiblethisinfoistoparentsaswell.WhathasthedistrictdonetoinformparentsandmakesurethatALLparentsrecievethesameinformationabouttheseassessments?

55 Jun 7, 2010 7:22 PMIdon'tknowhowimportantwinterscoresare.Ithinkitwouldmakesensetogivekidsmoredevelopmentallyappropriatequestionswithintwoorthreegradelevelsabove/belowwheretheyaresothattheyaren'tgivenquestionsthatmakethemanxiousaboutanswering.Thiswouldgivegiveamoreaccuraterepresentationofwhattheyknow,andarereadytolearn.

56 Jun 7, 2010 7:22 PM Ifeelthatstudentsinmy6thperiodclassdefinitelydidnottrytheirhardestbecausetheroomwasquitewarmandtheyweretired.Also,Ihaveacoupleofstudentswhoarepurposefullydistractful(isthataword?)becausetheythemselvesareinsecureabouttheirlowlevels.

57 Jun 7, 2010 7:23 PMHavingtheMAPtestthreetimesayearisnotappropriate.Thekidsgettiredofthesamequestions.TheMAPsucksupalotofschoolresourcesforthreeweeksthree

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