spying - us spy establishment in panic mode over washington post expose

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By Daniel TencerFriday, July 16th, 2010 -- 5:59 pm

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DCs spy establishment in panic mode over

Washington Post expose

Washington's intelligence establishment appears to be in

panic mode over an upcoming Washington Postseries

about runaway growth in defense and intelligence spending.

A State Department email has accused the Postof planningto make public "top secret" information about defense and

intelligence contractors working for the US, despite an

admission in the same email that the Post's information

came from "open sources."

The series, by Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Dana Priest,

will include a TV partnership with PBS's Frontline and is

expected to consist of three articles and an online database

of military and intelligence contractors and their projects.

It's that database of contractors that seems to be worrying Washington the most. Josh Rogin at

Foreign Policyreports that the State Department sent out an email Thursday warning all 14,574

Washington-area employees of the upcoming reports.

"On Monday July 19, the Washington Postplans to publish a website listing all agencies andcontractors believed to conduct Top Secret work on behalf of the US Government," the email

stated. "The website provides a graphic representation pinpointing the location of firms conducting

Top Secret work, describing the type of work they perform, and identifying many facilities where

such work is done."

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However, the extent to which the Post's information will be "top secret" is debatable. The State

Department email goes on to say that the information the Post has gathered came from "open

sources," suggesting the information published in the Post's database is already publicly available.

The email also tells employees they must "neither confirm nor deny" the claims made in the Post

articles.

That line is echoed in a letter to "industry partners" from the Office of the Director of National

Intelligence. In a blog posting entitled "Is Wash Post Harming Intelligence Work?", the

Washington Times reprints the letter from the ODNI, which asks contractors to "remind all cleared

employees of their responsibility to protect classified information and relationships."

Marc Ambinder at the Atlantichas obtained a memorandum from the ODNI's communications

chief, Art House, in which House lays out what he expects to see in the Post series, and his

predictions paint a negative picture of defense and intelligence spending over the past decade.House said while he "can't predict the content" of the piece, he expects it will draw several

conclusions:

The intelligence enterprise has undergone exponential growth and has become

unmanageable with overlapping authorities and a heavily outsourced contractor

workforce.

The IC and the DoD have wasted significant time and resources, especially in the areasof counterterrorism and counterintelligence.

The intelligence enterprise has taken its eyes off its post-9/11 mission and is spending

its energy on competitive and redundant programs.

House also lays out a strategy for an expected public-relations battle after the series' publication:

It might be helpful as you prepare for publication to draw up a list of accomplishmentsand examples of success to offer in response to inquiries to balance the coverage and

add points that deserve to be mentioned. In media discussions, we will seek to garner

support for the Intelligence Community and its members by offering examples of agile,

integrated activity that has enhanced performance. We will want to minimize damage

caused by unauthorized disclosure of sensitive and classified information.

And Foreign Poli cy's Rogin reports that the Obama administration is already refuting the Post

series, even though it won't launch until Monday.

"A lot of this is explainable," an unnamed administration off icial told Rogin. "You want some

redundancy in the intelligence community and you're going to have some waste. These are things

we've been aware of and in some instances we agree are troubling. However, it's something we've

been working on for a year and a half. It's something we've been on top of."

The official went on to say that "there will be examples of money being wasted in the series that

seem egregious and we are just as offended as the readers by those examples."

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"It might be helpful as you prepare for publication to draw up a list of accomplishments and examples of

success to offer in response to inquiries to balance the coverage and add points that deserve to bementioned."

Does that include successfully blowing up World Trade Center buildings 1, 2, and 7?

Perhaps they should leave out forgetting to open the cabin door when faking the black box recording for the

Pentagon attack.


If their concerns are being expressed this publicly, then we can assume that half of what the Post is about to

report is bullshit designed either to set something up or to disinform. These guys are working off the "Last

Temptation of Christ" principle -- the more hell that's raised outside the movie the more tickets you'll sell.

WoPo is about to make a killing with an assortment of bullshit that may have even been written by some guy

on the CIA's payroll. WoPo and NYTimes are now infamous for cutting and pasting what the agency feedsthem. Israel has even gotten into the act. If the journalist wears a yarmulke on Saturdays, you can bet his

bullshit is pro Israel.

There are actually a lot of intelligence leaks coming out of the rank and file of these private contractors. The

trick is discerning how much of it is official disinformation.

IMHO, at the heart of this story is the ongoing turf war between traditionalists at CIA and the Cheney-

Rumsfeld cabal of neocon hawks still infesting the Pentagon. Under Cheney, the Pentagon's Office of Special

Plans preempted the power and status in the national security state formerly held by CIA. Obama has

long-time CIA associations and, as some analysts claim, he is working to restore the balance. Remember that

it was Cheney and the neocons who insisted on contracting out the operations of government. This includes

everything from the prison industry in which Cheney is invested heavily, to mercenary companies like

Blackwater, Dyncorp and Triple Canopy, to surveillance contractors under the supervision of the NSA.

If the intel insiders are right, we can expect to see the re-federalization of these functions of government back

out of the hands of the corporatists who have been abusing their contracts and embezzling government

funds.

Betcha dollars to donuts that this story is designed to agitate the public into demanding that the privatization

of government functions ends ASAP.

The simplest way to put it is that CIA is sticking a knife in Cheney's heart. After Cheney outed Plame and her

CIA front, Brewster Jennings & Associates, who were hot on his ass over the lies being manufactured by his

neocons in the Pentagon to justify the Iraq invasion along with Cheney's heroine and nuke technology

network into Central Asia, and thus to be planted in Iran, there is no love lost between these principals.

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Benway for the Nova Police Today 11:46 AM

cliffhammond Today 03:34 AM

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While I would not dispute the probabilities of your theories being correct, I think we may be a bit ahead

of ourselves answering what has not yet been said. Everything you said is entirely likely for the CIA to

do, but let us see the story.

"WoPo is about to make a killing with an assortment of bullshit that may have even been written by

some guy on the CIA's payroll"? Excuse me, if this is really by Dana Priest, there won't be any WaPo

assortment of bullshit. Dana Priest is Sy Hersh, James Risen -- the miracle is that the WaPo lets her

and a number of other first-rate investigative journalists stay on -- I suppose it's all the Pulitzers. Without

them and a few columnists, WaPo in my view is just a rightist rag, bought-and-paid-for. Dana Priest's

expos will be honest and important.


Cliffhammond really pulls together a lot of strings into a nice whole, and he's right about the effort to

move public opinion against the contractors and back to public opinion. But the contractors and their

rightist friends see it too. So watch for personal profiles of contractors showing up in the mainstream

media. How hard they work, how much they sweat, how their families miss them. If you want to win a PR

war in America, you have to make it up close and personal.


i lived through the Viet Nam war era. this stuff was known back then. that war was to benefit Big Business

and, get this: Big Oil. There are large deposits of oil on the west side of Viet Nam. Right now, it's Halliburton,etc who are the opportunists of the era but back then, it wasn't just defense contractors but also

subcontractors who prepared those k-rations, etc. the worst part was all the deception about the oil. i knew a

lot of vets who came back to campus after they got their GI ed benefits. There was an organization called Viet

Nam Vets Against the War. The movie "Born on the 4th of July" was pretty accurate even though Tom Cruise

wasn't very believeable as Ron Kovik. This country went down to corporatism under Nixon. Does anyone

know if there's any gold left in Fort Knox?


Nailed it harrylord. I'm 52 years old and the whole damn time has been an illusion. I think they are getting

greedy and arrogant now though. It is getting obvious. it's hard to point to it exactly but you can feel it in the

air. You know in the pit of your stomach that something is way off in America.

The press labels it as Left and Right, if you pay attention you can see it's about money and money is about

power.

The sad part is until we get off this left, right kick and realize it's about rich poor as it has always been in thisnation, we can never come together collectively and defeat this raging cancer of greed and power.

The ubiquitous " THEY" have a plan and it is working flawlessly.

Webster Tarpley's theory is that the powers behind the throne have simply changed frontmen, replacing

the neocons with the Obama Wall Street crowd. I tend to think he's probably right, though, like hismentor Lyndon LaRouche, he's a bit of an alarmist.


I'm there too. There are just to many things that are happening that shouldn't be and to many things that

are being completely overlooked or outright ignored by the media that shouldn't be.

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usmcr Today 08:39 AM in reply to Harry


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If you consider we have just gone through 10 of the most corrupt years in this countries history... and

still no one is prosecuted? And the only place there is any outrage is on the internet.


"The intelligence enterprise has undergone exponential growth and has become unmanageable"...

"Unmanageable" is the scary word in this scenario...

It's just administrative-speak for "out of control".


"Has," as in recently? I guess you missed that business in the 60s where folks managed to get

assassinated from on top of bath tubs behind tree limbs and shot in the back of the neck from 3 feet in

front. The CIA got out of control a long time ago.


No wonder our intelligence is so shitty and off the ball. What in the fuck hasn't been outsourced?

Sorry, that last comment was directed towards Harrylord.


This is one of the most insightful responses I have ever read to an article.

Few people would believe anything you said here which is how it has actually been pulled off.

When the people doing it are perfect clinical Socio and Psychopaths (with no conscience and a brain that can

be turned on and off) then of course nobody among the "masses" are going to even be interested in it.

And well it should be known that things got suddenly weird in the world when the OSS became the CIA and

Project Paperclip brought thousand of scientists here that were very good in their field.

It is unfortunate that people now only remember Werner von Braun and the rocket scientists but there were

many others who were seeded into industry, government and the education system as well.

And just as people won't believe the things that Gary Webb wrote about (and died for) in Dark Alliance or

GHW Bush's direct involvement in the CIA drug trade, neither will they believe how just as nefarious these

people are still to this day.

There IS a war going on........a much bigger one that you may see glimpses of on the news.

It is a war for your mind and your children's minds and the people at the top have state of the art techniques

and technology to drive it in to your brain.

For what TV does to condition your mind they should be paying you to watch it, not the other way around.

And thank you for the book tip.

I have started reading The Last Circle online tonight.

Keep your guard up friends!!!.......

The "impossible" hasn't been so for 30 years.


M i n d c o n t r o l

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Jim Bamfords The Man Who Sold the War published in The Rolling Stone Magazine, in December 2005,

put the spotlight on the Rendon Group.

The Perception Management strategic field in psychological operations in mass media spin control was

useful to enable Bush to attack Iraq, and, by extension, escape war crimes prosecutions.

Now, enter Ogilvy Public Relations Worldwide, its Vice President, is also Coast Guard Petty Officer, and,

BPs oil slick spin doctor.

John Quins Montauk Project Report makes use of the less known term Reality Engineering to explain a

cover-up technique so sinister nobody would believe.

The truth about Watergate and Iran/Contra have been supressed by elements of government mind control

operations rooted in Operation Paperclip that allowed major Nazi War Criminals to escape war crimes

prosecution with illegal immigration into the United States.

Out of Paperclip emerged Project MK-Ultra CIA Mind Control Research that exposed America to LSD, Crystal

Methamphetamine, Cocaine Hydrochloride, and the free base method of Cooking Crack Cocaine into a

purer, more addicting smokable substance.

Of coarse, the petro-chemicals needed to refine Cocaine Hyrdocloride was patented by IG Farben

Pharmaceticals and transfered to Atlantic Richfield Rifining Co. ARCO and taken over by BP.

Make no mistake, these dangerous drugs, are in fact, chemical weapons for mind control operations run and

managed by the CIA Clandestine Services under the field operational code name; MK-Delta.

The Last Circle by Carol Marshall is very informative on the Mind Wars in electronic media manipulation and

subliminal seduction in campaigning and marketing strategies, and, of course, MK-Delta CIA Drug induced

mind control.

The foundational structural component upon which the success of these operations are built, is public

education.

Dr. Robert N. Proctor coined the word agnotology meaning the scientific study of culturally induced

ignorance, its technical co-eficient being public education.

Nelson Mandela denounced the educational policies of Apartheid as truly a crime against humanity, the

pernicous effects of this phenomena has injured the minds all humanity, the events of 9/11/01 further crippled

an already permanently impaired mind.

The most infallable symtom of constitutional liberty, was never intended to protect any constitutional rights,

rather, it protects constitutional wrongs with impunity.

Enforcement is inherently a highly selective endeavor, the case of Dread Scott invoked the 5th Amendment to

maintain slavery, the birth of the FBI emerged out of a local and federal law enforcement shootout at theKansas City Union Station that was blamed on mob gangsters to justify the creation of the FBI. Gangster

Adam Rechetti was framed and executed for this local and federal cop gunfight.

Bradley Birkenfeld, Leonard Peltier, Micheal Riconosciuto, Delmart Mike Vreeland, Jeffery McDonald, all

framed and serving time for crimes that the government committed.

The National Academies of Science Forensic Science Report endeavored to address some of these

shortcomings, however, the report remains advisory and nonbinding.

Of particular interest, was the interoperable data sharing that vendors were found to be reluctant in

cooperating with.

A chilling effect that can be cited as a reason for this reluctance, would no doubt be, the U. S. Justice theft

and piracy of Inslaw Corporations Prosecutors Management Information System or PROMIS Software.

Hamilton Securities Community Wizard Software met a similar fate.

The Community Wizard Software was designed for place based tracking of housing mortgage loans and

repayment that would have prevented the housing market bubble from developing and subsequent burst that

burned down the house of cards that triggered the Wall Street Financial Crisis.

As for the pile of ashes that buried PROMIS, had the Justice been honest in dealing with Inslaw Corporation,

the attacks on 9/11 would have been detected in advance and prevented as well. Ashes, ashes all fall down.

The main objective behind the piracy of PROMIS was the proliferation of WMD under the false sense of

security that these operations could be monitored in real time all the time with a view towards preempting any

hostile move before any serious damage could be done.

PROMIS also allows the CIA with the capability to monitor all drug enforcement operations to ensure the

controlled deliveries of drugs without detection to meet the MK-Delta drug induced mind control agenda.


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PROMIS as a money laundry machine can hide drug money or looted assets by pinging them through one

electronic account to another, a point and click ahead of auditors virtually at the speed of light.

Any person of average prudence would have to question how can any part of this corruption be possible? Let

alone all of it! Which brings us full circle ending where we started.

Through perception management, reality engineering, and mind control.

TO: Harrylord

You mentioned The Last Circle in your comments below. The Last Circle (TLC) is now being published

in book form, due at bookstores in September 2010. A good overview of the upcoming completed book

can be read at ark-roundtable.com. Click on "About the book." The Internet version of TLC contains only15 chapters, the completed book contains 25 chapters --- the last ten chapters being the most

provocative.

Thank you. Very instructive. Did you write this yourself or do you have a source to the original?


This study by the University of Michigan describes why many people even when presented with the real

facts cling on to their false beliefs even stronger.

We'd like to believe that most of what we know is accurate and that if presented with facts to prove

we're wrong, we would sheepishly accept the truth and change our views accordingly.

A new body of research out of the University of Michigan suggests that's not what happens, that we

base our opinions on beliefs and when presented with contradictory facts, we adhere to our original

belief even more strongly.

The phenomenon is called backfire, and it plays an especially important role in how we shape and

solidify our beliefs

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st...


Let me guess, we outsourced our intelligence to a firm in Tel Aviv whose been telling us we need to attack

Iran.

They have an established track record of providing us with the information arguing the necessity to attack

Afghanistan and Iraq.


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Yes - you are correct.


Mossad.I.A.

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I suspect that someone has been reading monster.com.

The AIPAC and Israel comments on this page are incomprehensible. There's no reference to either in the

article, yet the crack-brained anti-Semites use it as an opportunity to trot out their favorite dementia.

"Oooo, I've got a hangnail. It's all Israel's fault!"

It just goes to show how stupid and irrelevant their fantasies are. These obsessive, reflexive Jew-haters really

are a pathetic lot of idiots.


The truth hurts doesn't it my Israeli friend???


FYI, here's an excellent mainstream documentary about the Israel Lobby. Note that I'm not addressing

your accusations about the commenters here, just underscoring that there is indeed a large scale

infiltration of American politics by elements strongly allied to Israel. This was the case in the Bush

administration, particularly in neocon circles, and it is the case in the Obama administration,

represented most notably by Obama's chief of staff and his campaign director.


Anti-semitism accusers

2% of the US population

...all israel all the time...


Oh thinking Israel has infiltrated the US intelligence service is just crazy anti-Semite talk.

Piss off.

The Jew haters on here are part of a Zionist plot to discredit those who can discern the most

clever and most secret of malevolent conspiracies.


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Wow, that's mighty fancy bait - for trolling. And it seems to work. I guess it's better to be

obtuse and convoluted, with lots of angles, lest your prey get bored and swim away.


Fifteen years ago I was defending jews against the crazy white-wing militias. Now I'm starting

to think they know what they're talking about, even though I hate racists. The FACTS are

that the thinktanks and Center for A New American Century who advised us into Iraq were

majority jewish. FACT that the corrupt banking system is at least a quarter or a third jewish.

FACT is that the Israel-lovers on the East Coast drive US foreign policy. Six million zionist

have had their way. Enough already. Israel isn't the only agenda we need to dump, but it's

on of the majors. Stop the boohooing about anti-semitism. Semites caused it.


This guy has the same response to any post, about any subject....He needs to be picked up

and put on a 48 hour psych-evaluation hold. I'm surprised he doesn't use a bar code for his

name.


Starv a por? You must be one of those IDF guys that kills children in Palestine.


I have no idea who is your Crack dealer is, but you should have a talk with him. Few days

ago you spoke like a tea bagging nutcase, calling Blacks "mud people" and Arabs Muslims

"savages", calling for Israel to exterminate Muslims, nuking Iran, and today you are engaging

in "Zionist denunciation".Say no to drugs Cracker...Meph is bad for your health


There is no conspiracy against the Jews, Individuals like yourself are acerbating the tension

between those crackpots who believe the Jews are victims of some cosmic conspiracy, &

the rest of us.

You are nothing but a petty provocateur and everyone seems to understand it


Hillary & her Neocon friends at AIPAC have been very busy.

Why does the State Dept. have 14,574 employees in D.C.?

WikiLeaks now has plenty

of high-caliber disclosures.

Very Explosive.

whistleblowers

leak wiki leak

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I wonder how many of the companies being protected are in Israel?


This isn't new info they are 'exposing'. What do they think Booze/Allen/Hamilton does? They sell intel to US

and have been for years. Last time I checked, that met the definition of 'outsourcing'.

http://www.boozallen.com/about/clients

Clients: * US Department of Defense Military Health System

* Dynamic Macro-Economic Impact Modeling

* US Navy Aircraft Carrier Fleet Gap Analysis

* CDC and Public Health Laboratories Lab Capacity and Resource Planning

* Federal Aviation Administration Next Generation Air Transportation System

* Federal Aviation Administration System Approach for Safety Oversight Program Office

* U.S. Office of Management and Budget govbenefits.gov

* Homeland Infrastructure Foundation-level Data (HIFLD) Working Group

* Office of the Secretary of Defense Sustainable Ranges Initiative

* U.S. Army Unified Quest Program

* U.S. Green Building Council


I expect a limited hang-out. WaPo and Frontline are controlled. Remember, this is mainstream media.

They will reference 911 as if the official story is true.

I wonder how many references to Mossad they will make.

So does Huffpo and Raw. Jew-owned???


You can probably count those references to the Mossad on the fingers of one finger.


They've got to protect their phony-baloney jobs!

Seriously, does anyone think WaPo would do anything to harm the national spying apparatus--WaPo is part

of it!

The growth in private contractors/mercenaries is to keep this stuff beyond the control of Congress (not that

Congress has much control over intelligence matters, or cares to); private companies can get away with

murder, literally.


Wow...WaPo actually doing some good?!?

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This whole country has been outsourced. The military has been outsourced. Our military still die, we haven't

outsourced death yet, but everything the military used to do so well is outsourced to contractors. In fact

contractors now out number military over there.

Our financial information in our banks is now outsourced in foreign country's. When you call your bank youget someone from Hong Kong, Taiwan, or the Philippines or elsewhere. As if financial TERRORISM will

never be a problem. Spying that our allies do for us, and just how safe is that? Christ on a crutch! So what is

the surprise? That with all our incompetence at nearly everything, that incompetence might have spread to

who we outsourced to.

I often wonder just how we became so powerful. I have watched the last 25 years in horror. I have never in all

my days seen or heard such nonsense come from Washington. Such stupidity. Such a lack of ethics, or

purpose other then wrecking the country. And never have Americans embraced such insanity, such a love of

ignorance and such a hatred of education or anything smacking of intelligence.

Spying seems to now be done by rank amateurs. This is one lame brained country.

I agree! T his country was the envy of all and the people in this country were intelligent, hard working

and creative. My question is HOW did this country become so stupid? Take a look at what has been

said in politics in the last 10 years! Such complete stupidity and people almost seem proud of it! People

actually voted for a man who was a c student {who was again proud of being stupid} and liked because

he was the "kinda guy you could have a beer with"!! This country has become a country of fat, spoiled

and stupid people in a relatively short time. Is some one putting something in the water? How did this

country become a country that reveres stupidity and encourages it? Immigration opponents should be

patient. It won't be too much longer before no one will want to come here, legally or not.


Your right. I loved the analogy of having a beer with Bush or any politician as if this were the real

test of how good a leader he would be. God forbid we should hold out for intelligence and ethics. I

listened to some speeches from Bush when he was Governor of T X. It was terrible. And when he

was elected I could not believe it. And as President he was worse then I thought he might be.

What really struck me besides this idiot being elected twice was the willingness of the press to roll

over and die. We have been so long without a free and objective press, that I forgot we ever had

one. It used to be we wanted more for our children in the way of education and becoming better

able to take care of themselves. Now people look upon intelligence or an education as elitist.

Thanks to the kind of insanity both religious, economic and political, we seem willing to let the

corporate owned media and politicians define what we are and who we should want in office.

My family has been in this country since 1755. And the past ten years is the first time I have ever

wanted to leave it. Religion and politics have become joined in some unholy unit. And not to the

betterment of this country. Our framers knew the fallacy of not keeping church and state

separated. Now it has become a litmus test for office. As if you cannot have decent government

without a prayer book in one hand. Look around the world and see what religion sponsored

government has done to other country's.

The only test for running any government is intelligence and decency and some kind of

willingness to do the best you can. The best for not just one segment, say the top 2%, but for the

rest of us as well. For the people here that pay the taxes and send their children to do the fighting

and dying for the whole country, and not just the favored who get richer off the labor of the few.

Words like Nazism and socialism get thrown around as a pejorative slap in the face. But howmany people really know the definition of the words. How many people know just what a Nazi is.

The history of it, and other then Germany and Hitler, how many can give you a real definition and

the social context of how the movement came about? Very few, they only know it as an insult. But

if you ask them to define it and how it applies to what they say the President is, they cannot.

The stupidity of this country can be dumped at the feet of our text books in our schools. There is a

very small company for lack of a better name. Run by one man not and educator. He inherited it

from a couple that died. They two barely made it through high school. They did not like the text

books. And they complained so loudly and vociferously, that the text book publishers allowed themto go over the books before printing and tell them what they did not like. It became a lifetime

paying job. And it is to them we owe the level of text books used around the country. Now this man

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who currently does this, line by line on text books, is taking out the history of slavery, Jefferson,

the history of union, and Washington etc. Nearly everything relating to this country that is not

conservative enough.

This list is endless. The list of what has happened to our depth of understanding of this country

and the world in general. When you have a country the celebrates, a Bachmann, Palin, Coulter,

Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, and Beck, you have a country in crisis. When people would rather

have someone tell them what to think and what to do you have crisis. When people think that socalled entertainers are thinkers and hold some unique understanding because of a platform, you

have crisis. When you have people that give up their ability to question and allow someone, some

demi-god to think for them, you have crisis. And when you have the nastiest element in our

country running the opposite party you have crisis. Now peace has become a dirty word for

liberals. And the desire for life without the chaos of war, is now anti-American.

Here I am one of the terrible, secular humanists. Here I am wanting the best for this country and

wanting it for all of us. Shame on all of us out here that want an end to the hateful rhetoric. Maybe

one day the pendulum will swing the other way. Somewhere down the middle. Right now I am fed

up and exhausted with it all.

Excellent!


Check this out. This could explain alot about why things are the way they are today--the insanity of it all.

(Sociopaths are drawn to power and wealth.)

http://www.cix.co.uk/~klockstone/spath.htm

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"Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter

what you do, no limiting sense of concern of the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family

members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of

selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken. And pretend that the concept of responsibility is

unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools. Now

add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is

radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal amonghuman beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless. You are not held back

from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your

cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal

experience that they seldom even guess at your condition.

In other words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as

you please, with no pangs of conscience, is conveniently invisible to the world. You can do anything at

all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their

consciences, will most likely remain undiscovered.

How will you live your life? What will you do with your huge and secret advantage, and with the

corresponding handicap of other people (conscience)? The answer will depend largely on just what

your desires happen to be, because people are not all the same. Even the profoundly unscrupulous are

not all the same. Some people - whether they have a conscience or not - favor the ease of inertia, while

others are filled with dreams and wild ambitions. Some human beings are brilliant and talented, some

are dull-witted, and most, conscience or not, are somewhere in between. There are violent people and

non-violent ones, individuals who are motivated by blood lust and those who have no such appetites.

Maybe you are someone who craves money and power, and though you have no vestige of conscience,

you do have a magnificent IQ. You have the driving nature and the intellectual capacity to pursue

tremendous wealth and influence, and you are in no way moved by the nagging voice of conscience

that prevents other people from doing everything and anything they have to do to succeed. You choose

business, politics, the law, banking or international development, or any of a broad array of other power

professions, and you pursue your career with a cold passion that tolerates none of the usual moral or

legal encumbrances. When it is expedient, you doctor the accounting and shred the evidence, you stab

your employees and your clients (or your constituency) in the back, marry for money, tell lethal

premeditated lies to people who trust you, attempt to ruin colleagues who are powerful or eloquent, and

simply steamroll over groups who are dependent and voiceless. And all of this you do with the exquisitefreedom that results from having no conscience whatsoever.

mindboggeling Today 01:31 PM in reply to C H

yvonneo Yesterday 04:32 PM in reply to C H


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You become unimaginably, unassailably, and maybe even globally successful. Why not? With your big

brain, and no conscience to rein in your schemes, you can do anything at all."

Thank you.

Thank you for the link. That author is spot on and does a good job at explaining the mind of a

sociopath., I know a couple myself, that was a great read.

Our brains are not as evolved as we might think...

There are some more clues here:

http://www.alternet.org/story/147539/


Your main point is that ordinary people can't wrap their heads around the behavior of socio- and

psychopaths. Indeed, that is perhaps their greatest and most gruesome strength, like "The Big

Lie" that ordinary people always make excuses for, where they would perceive and condemn petty

lies. Not having a conscience, socio- and psychopaths lack what cancer cells lack built-in

self-limiting machinery.

Normal cells undergo apoptosis ("falling away") when their internals go awry. They just die off.

Cancer cells lack that humility.


I agree with you CH. We can't even get bottles of water to our own army without calling someone to do it

for us. It's absolutely incredible that our military can't do its own work.

and on top of that we cannot control the people who work for us. They have us over a barrel and can do

whatever they want because like ill legal immigrants, they do the work that our military won't do for itself.

And I blame the leadership of the military for that.

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DC's spy establishment in panic mode over Washington Post expose ...: cia DCs spy establishment in panic

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kdawg1012 Today 08:11 AM

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If the information was obtained, as stated in the email, from "open" sources, then the intelligence community

has a serious problem. The Post is right in highlighting this problem.

BUFFALONYUSNEWS Today 07:23 AM


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BentNotBroken Today 07:13 AM


Who will supply the *Pentagon Papers II* to end this mockery of secrecy and deceit. There is no nobility in

continuing such a charade of deceit in the name of national security. Of course there is panic. Panic is to

always be found just before a fragile web of lies is exposed. There is no security in what Eisenhower warned

the country about. Fortunes and careers are at stake. Too bad. Open the windows. Air the place out. Let new

defenders create the new security. This bunch has fouled the nest.

I_luvtheCIA Today 06:30 AM


Should the Washington Post really be posting all private businesses that do work for the intelligence

agencies? That is compromising ongoing intelligence work by making a comprehensive list. Homeland

Security, where are you guys on this? Asleep at the wheel?

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