srila sridhara maharaja classes-february 20

8/6/2019 Srila Sridhara Maharaja classes-February 20

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Srila Sridhara Maharaja classes.

Devotee: They feel that there is some threat from this side.

Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Another danger is there that HunsaduttaMaharaja has come out. He is a dangerous man.Devotee: So, if a person has taken diksaSrila Sridhara Maharaja: What?Devotee: If a person has taken diksa from one of the ISKCONacaryas, but nonetheless he is feeling some genuine dissatisfaction;then should he be encouraged to remain diksa those gurus andcome to You for siksa?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: I don't follow.Another devotee: He's saying; if some man has taken diksa from anISKCON guru but he feels persistantly dissatisfaction, should we

encourage him to remain..Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Come here for siksa.Devotee: for siksa.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: (sanskrit verse) In spite of the opposition oftheir diksa guru or their conscious. If by their conscious, then noharm, but if after opposition then it to be considered. That how farhe is genuine, sincerity why he is leaving the place the question ofthe standard ofsiksa for something else. So many questions to beknown. Why he has lost faith in the diksa guru, these considerationsare to be taken in. Now this Mukunda Mala created havoc.Govinda Maharaja: (bengali )

Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Now Jayatirtha Maharaja is trying to takeRamesvara Maharaja here. Trying his best to take him here to me.Jayatirtha Maharaja is trying hard to take Ramesvara Maharaja tome. But I don't know what attitude I shall have then aboutRamesvara Maharaja.Devotee: Maharaja?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Yes.Devotee: All the gurus are upset over this issue, but Mukunda Mala isvery happy. So why are they upset? Is their unhappiness because heis not becoming Krsna conscious? What is their unhappiness?Srila Sridhara Maharaja:(bengali )

Govinda Maharaja:(bengali ) Someone is comming. Maharaja cannotsee.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: There is a dim figure approaching, I amthinking that ( ) is comming.Madhava Prabhu's question (bengali ) My talk was little harsh, is itnot? I am excited.Devotee:Who's talk?Govinda Maharaja Maharaja's talk.


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Govinda Maharaja: (Bengali )Srila Sridhara Maharaja: In his last days sometimes he used to walkaround taking the name quite naked, stark naked and he gaveinstructions to his personal attendants that if any person comes fromoutside then you will cast some cloth around me, wrapper.je-dina

grhe, bhajana dekhi/grhete goloka baya/:When ever I see that othersare helping me in this Krsna consciousness then I think, I feel that itis Vrndavana, Goloka, my house is Goloka. Easily excited that soulthe inner function a slight connection come out.We are trying, we are trying, we are engaged by outside experience

but we have to try to conceive the lila ofVrndavana with someeffort. But that is the opposite stage also. They are always there.Inner experience, inner world. Sometimes they will have to comeoutside (sanskrit)Srila Sridhara Maharaja: First we came to join the mission.Sometimes new comers when there was any talk of the outsiders,

they are attacking Gaudiya Math in commentation and in litigationall these things, the new comers would not be allowed to enter intothat. That sort of talk. We asked why, everything is for Krsna. No,this is madyama adhikara, they can stand only, love and rupture.Whatever is for Krsna that should be adopted. The kanisthaadhikari , they cannot adjust with such things, the litigation, thecommentation that stern commentation of the opposition all thesethings. That is meant only for the madyama adhikara not kanisthaadhikara. They should be kept aloof. This sort of arrangement wefound. Then gradually when they are making progress and canunderstand that whatever is done for the service ofKrsna, the

guarantee is the purity ofGurudeva, of the vaisnava they are doingnot for fame but surrendered soul. It is difficult. To leave this charmfor women and money, that is easy to detect. But whether he isworking for his own fame as a religious man, it is difficult to detectthat. I am an acarya, I am a religious authority, so many will revereme I shall be like a king in the spiritual world. That sort of thirst forgood name and fame that may remain within and it is very difficultthat he has got no such hankering for name and fame but hasdedicated whole, surrendered whole for the Lord. There lies the rub.There ( ) where is the guarantee. Ordinary man can't measure,gauge that, detect. So to do so it becomes necessary that we must

also go climbing up nearer the level.Then only it is possible . Fromlower level it is not possible to measure how much he has got selfishhankering for name and fame or fully given for the cause ofKrsnaconsciousness or Gaura consciousness. Very hard to detect that. Soin order to do so we shall have to go up to level nearer then only candetect that, surrender, surrender. How much affinity, how muchclose affection, how much identified with the real cause, the realcause. That is to do or die for the principal, do or die for the


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Srila Sridhara Maharaja: (sanskrit)Devotee: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: That is to be minutely gone through.Devotee: You used that when you were defeating Hyranyagarbho,when he came you were defeating him with this.

Srila Sridhara Maharaja: This Hyranyagarbho should be shownone article. Two articles we had about Lalita Prasda by Prabhupadahimself. One (sanskrit) another article he is engaged in the worshipof (sanskrit). The presiding Deity of the town was (sanskrit), Shakti,Kali puja.Devotee: Viranagara?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Viranagara, (sanskrit). And he is engaged,Lalita Prasada, is engaged in the worship of(sanskrit), Shakti, not ofShaktiman, that is Krsna, that is materialistic view he is possesedwith. Clear description there. Imitation is not genuine thing.(sanskrit) serving and enjoying. May be similar but not same, the

opposite. Dedication and exploitation opposite. Both are very busybusy to work for their satisfaction. Satisfaction connected with thesenses or the satisfaction of the senses ofKrsna. The opposite.(sanskrit) Even going through the various scriptures one may notunderstand the real purpose. What is the jist, what is the aim of thewrittings, it is very difficult to understand.Athto brahma jignasa. Athta brahma jignasa. The reason for brahma jignasa. Dharma jignasa byJaimani and brahma jignasa by Vyasain Vedanta. (sanskrit) Athato dharma jignasa byJaimani andAthatobrahma jignasa by Vyasa. Inquiry is present in both.Devotee: In the begining Narada Bhakti Sutra doesn't he have the

equivilant , now is the time to inquire about bhakti?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: (sanskrit) But all of them collected andharmonized in Bhakti Rasamrta Sindhu. Full fledged theism, theismHe is He is, He is how He is, how He is. Theism means this Om, ommeans theism. In the bird, and the tree grants us flowers and fruitand ripe fruit. (sanskrit) Rasa, (sanskrit) and rasa is controlling thewhole market in different phases, in different appearance that rasa.According to purity of the rasa the standard of life is being dignified.The qualitative difference. Rasa in exploitation, rasa renunciation,in and rasa in service and in dutifull service and sponteaneousservice. Also in santa,dasya, sahkya, vatsalya, madhurya the

different group. The differentiated symptoms, creiterion are difficultto detect.Only a spiritual expert is he who can dectect those subtle

differences between the different stages in different rasa . And inone rasa there is also so many personification. There is alsogradation. Knowledge is gradation, experience of gradation. It isspelled to the extreme. Even in Krsna conception; Syam Bhagavan,then Syam Prakasa then Prabhava Prakasa, then Prabhava Vilasa in


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this way. Even there is gradation ofKrsna Himself, what to speak ofthe servitors. Syam Bhagavan, Syam Rupa, Syam Prakasa thenPrabhava Prakasa, Vibhava Prakasa, then Prabhava Vilasa, VibhavaVilasa in this way permutation combination in mathematics it isgoing on. What to speak of other Krsna, Balarama then Caturvyuha

in Dvaraka then in Vaikuntha - Caturvyuha Narayana Caturvyuhathen twenty-four extended Vilasa extention that is extendedfunctions of deligated figures. Then Karanodakasayi,Garbhodakasayi, Ksirodakasayi, then Matsya, Kurma, Varaha, theseavataras .Thenyuga avatara, then saktavesa avatara, thenmanvantara avatara, so many apparently they are functioning somany stages, so many intensity degree classification in svamsatattva, then vibinamsa tatastha jiva and then this mayaic world.And there also,(sanskrit) development.The full fledged material evolution and also the spiritual dedicativeevloution there. And it is always dynamic, always progressive. And

we must have some concrete experience, real touch with reality.It was said by our Prabhupada ; the honey is in the file, the mouth isclosed and the bee is just sitting on the or sitting over the glassthinking 'I am tasting honey'.Such case is there also. (sanskrit) He is cheating his own mind also;that Krsna lila is such. Externaly they are dealing with men andwomen in a particular process and they think that 'we are enjoyingthat lila .' Like that Candidasa and others they also say that we areby our physical conduct and behavior we are tasting the same thingas in Vrndavana. And Hyranyagarbho has entered that section. Sohe will be master in no time. Master of Goloka, master of Vrndavana

no time very ready made things he is getting there.I heard that one Babaji he had reputation ofa good character, he didnot mix with women, he keeps his character good. But when he hasdied so many men and women of that sect they had assembled,gathered there. Then one babaji, one women the mattaji she islamenting ' Oh, the Babaji dead but he could not reach Goloka' Shewas very lamentable because he could not reach Goloka, because itwas supposed that he did not mix with any women. Then anotherlady came out 'Who says that he had no Goloka, I know it fully hehad my association.' She came forward to give certificate to thedead babaji that he had connection of Goloka. Vaikuntha means

model and Goloka means you model according to them. Engaged inimmoral activities, men and women, and they are experimentingwith Goloka. And those that are of moral temperment are lostaccording to them. He remained in Vaikuntha , he could notunderstand what is Goloka. This is their fashion, of dealing withKrsna consciousness. ( ) and Hyranyagarbha has entered thatclan. Make believe. He is not wasting time like us in philosophising,or


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ontological labor, but he has already attained that rasa and going ontesting.I like to retire now. (end of tape)Devotee: The tendancy to truly distribute the glories of the Lord,throught the enviornment, that will grow naturally with along with

the development of devotion on the inner plane.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Within. So Kirtana has been accepted themost efficent to enhance his own inner wealth. Distribute your goodwill to others and as reaction that will come to help you in yourdevelopment. Good will, excise, that will enhance the degree.Distribution means attraction, attraction and distribution both are co-relative friends. One does not live at the cost of other; but they areco-operating. Think good for others and your own good will bethought out automatically.Devotee: So this is the real basis of the position of the Guru.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Yes.

Devotee: He who has sufficent good will for others may beconsidered guru. ( )Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Self-forgetfulness. Christ said self-forgetfulness, self-sacrifice and ( ) and self-forgetfulness is inChrist we are told this way.In Mahaprabhu finds self-forgetfulness only difference in quality.Where the distribution, the self-forgetful distribution in what layer,that is the difference. In what plane? That may be in mundane planedistribution of food and clothing. And then in the learning the planeof ordinary, this scientific education ect. And the reaction for thedistribution of creating atom bomb. Atom bomb market. Distribute

atom bombs to others; invite suicide. And their distribution of lovethat will bring love in( )Devotee: There they have the principal of deterants, neucealardeterants. But we've got loving adherance, adherance,the opposite Ithink.Srila Sridhara Mahraja: I don't follow.Devotee: The militarists they say that if I have enough atom bombsthen I will be able to detere the tendancy of the other party to attackme with their atom bombs. So this is the principal or mutualdeterents.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: The mutual both are in competion in the

wrong plane.Devotee: So both sides are always having to build more and morebombs to detere each other.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Tit for tat. One is accumulating tit another isaccumulating tat.Devotee: But you are distributing bombs ofbhakti in our hearts.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: That sort of strength was with my GuruMaharaja. Single handed he began to challenge the whole of the


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sunicena / taror api sahisnuna/amanina manadena / kitaniyah sadaharih . He said that that should be the method they employ in theirpropaganda in the west that that would be successful.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: And Swami Maharaja did that. His life wasalso at stake but still with divine confidence he marched on.

Devotee: Maximum risk, maximum gain.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: No risk, no gain. That is mahabhava.To riskmeans mahabhava. And to gain means rasaraja. Who can risk? Thenegative and the positive. Negative is risking and thereby get thepositive. To attract positive. To risk means to attract positive. Thereis a Bengali poet, one lady, ( ) type, she is writting ( Bengaliverse) of course it is collected from vaisnava ( ) (Bengali verse) Theperhaps the wife is addressing to her husband " You have snachtedmy role from me (Bengali verse) leaving me quite empty. And I feelthat I am very much fortunate. Being quite empty. You are soperfect,that you have taken everything from me I feel I am empty

and I consider myself very fortunate that I have nothing andeverything you have taken away from me . You are such perfect. Youare such perfect that you have snachted everything from me and Ifeel I am fortunate.Just as Mahaprabhu said (bengali verse) that Ratha yatracelebration he chanted an ordinary poem in some ordinary book.That was formally couced in sanskrit by Rupa Goswami (sanskrit)Devotee: Maharaja, why do you say that it was ordinary?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What?Devotee: Why do you say that it was ordinary what Mahaprabhu...Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Ordinary?

Devotee: This verseSrila Sridhara Maharaj: Ordinary? It was produced by some people,worldy poet, that is ordinary. Worldly poet, not from scripture. It iscollected from an ordinary epic, a special epic. Very young booknamed ( ) in sanskrit. Then a quotation from the ancient poem,poetry book, one sloka. There it is mentioned that one lady she saysthat before my marriage, I loved some gentleman and I met him inthe jungle on the banks of river. That was a night, a moonlit nightand the season was also spring. But in course of time I amafterwords married to that very gentleman and I find that the samemoonlit night and so sweet odor is comming from the flowers from

the garden also and he is the same man and I am the same lady. Stillin my mind is always attracted by that environment where we firstmet before our marriage. That is the general poetry is like that. In aparticular ordinary worldly book.And Mahaprabhu chanted that sloka when he is dancing just on thefront of the charriot ofJagannatha. He was chanting that sloka butordinary people cannot, even hisparsida , they could not understandwhy that particular poem from that particular social book, He is


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chanting and madly dancing beforeJagannatha. And Rupa Goswami(sanskritverse), only Svarupa could understand why He is chantingthat sloka which is considered to be a nasty one. But Rupa Goswamicame and he composed a parelel sloka giving it the proper meaningand connection with Vrndavana lila. Rupa translated in this way;

that Radharani has met Krsna in Kurksetra. And there he says I amthat Radha and He is that Krsna. But my mind is always attractingme to Vrndavana, I can't get any satisfaction here. Both the mainfigures, both of us present. But I don't have any sense of realenjoyment. My mind is always being attracted to Vrndavana(sanskirt verse) Rupa Goswami wrote that and on a plantain leaf itwas written put on the thatched hut where he was living.Mahaprabhu was going for taking bath in the sea and RupaGoswami had already left for taking bath and Mahaprabhu waswaiting there for some minutes perhaps. Then Rupa Goswami willcome and he will meet Him and then he will go to take bath.

Suddenly He looked above and under the thatched something waswriten in a plantain leaf is there. He took it and saw and He was inmeditating mood and He is asking Hari dasa. He knew thehandwriting ofRupa and when Rupa came Mahaprabhu is askingHari dasa, no Swarupa Damodara, Swarupa Damodara. "Swarupahow is this that Rupa has understood the meaning of my heart? Ichanted some ordinary sloka from the ordinary book and dancedmadly. The purport, real purport is known by him. How it ispossible?" And Swarupa Damodara told "You don't understand thismaster?It is Your grace. The cause is only Your grace to him. Noother way. There can be no other way to enter Your heart. But Your

grace has made him so dignified. You have opened the door of Yourheart to him and he has entered there and got everything.""Yes, I did so Damodara Swarupa. I did so. He is a good soul and heis qualified to deal with these subtle divine love. So I have fully givenhim what I have got. Not only that I request you also to give yourwhole self to that boy. He is really fit person to deal with all thesehigher ecstatic things." Mahaprabhu recommended.And then Rupa came and Mahaprabhu gave a slap. "How can youknow My inner feelings?" He gave a slap on his back.That was in Siddha Bakhula, still the place is there.Siddha Bakula.Hari dasa Prabhu's place, Siddha Bakhula.This incident took place

there, Siddha Bakhula.Devotee: With Mahaprabhu and Rupa Goswami in Siddha Bakhula?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: He met with Rupa-Sanatana. Rupa-Sanatanaused to live with Hari dasa Thakura in Siddha Bakhula. AndMahaprabhu met them there. Because they had some intimateassociation with the Muslims and so the Hindus or the Brahmins orthe preists of the temple ofJaganntha were scrupulous not to touchthem. So they used to live there. In some seculeded place where


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they may not have any complaint agianst them. Trnad api sunicena/taror api sahisnuna.They themselves were very careful not to cometo any criticisim by the public of that day. Rupa-Sanatana used totake their abode with Haridasa Thakura. That was a garden of theGuru Kasimisra ofPratraparudra, the emporer.

Mahaprabhu He begged for that place. "I want that" He asked "asolitary place that will be little far fromJagannatha temple, not veryfar and a solitary place I want where I should sometimes live in apeaceful manner. I want such a place." Then Sarvabauma, someonerecommeded that Kasi misra's place. That is very solitary and that isnot very far and still secluded place. Mahaprabhu begged fromKasimisra ; I want that garden house for my own purpose. He said;everything belongs to You. Whatever You select You may have itfully. So Haridasa Thakura was placed there in that Siddha Bakhula.And Rupa-Sanatana used to live there. Twice they came and livedthere. Rupa-Sanatana twice or once. Sanatana once perhaps he

came. And Rupa to some he presented his writings; that wasdiscussed by Mahaprabhu along with Sarvabauma, Ramananda andSwarupa Damodara. And that was appreciated very much. So muchso that when Rupa Goswami showed his Guru-vandana; Anarpitamciram cirat, Mahaprabhu, Sri Caitanya deva could not tolorate. Hesaid (Bengali verse) You have in your discription you have been toomuch liberal. And this equates to (Bengali) blaming one. Exceedinglypraise. Praise of extreme degree that equates to almost blame.(Bengali verse) You have made too much of Me. So much so thatyou have blamed Me. (Bengali) anarpita-ciram ciratkarunayavatirnah kalau/ samarpayitum unnatojjval-rasam sva-

bhakti-sriyam/ harih purata-sundara-dyuti-kdamba-sandipitah/ sadahrdaya-kandare sphuratu vah sacinandanah. ( ) No, he hasdedicated to his guru, guru should be placed in such a way. He hasdone rightly, nothing wrong. In this way.Have you finished yourparan ?Devotees: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: All?Devotees: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Paran. Nine thirty or sometime within thatyou are to take something. Ekadasi Paran.Devotee: Today it's nine fifty-seven.

Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Now?Devotee: No, nine fifty-seven, after one hour.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Paran time or now?Devotee: Hari Carana Prabhu, we have already broken, we havealready done theparan at around seven thirty.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Seven thirtyparan .


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Devotee: I also feel like I am breaking my fast this morning afterseveral months of missing yourself. This morning I am also breakingfast.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: I am talking just before (Bengali) To maketoo much praise that means blame.

Devotee: Sridhar Maharaja, how important is it to break fast the dayafter Ekadasi ? Is that very important to break fast early in themorning?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Break fast is the pre constituted part. Theparan is part of that vrata. Everything is service, nothing isenjoyment or negation but still it is to be considered part of thatvrata. Parana. So such importance is attached here that if that daythe birthday ofVamana or Varaha deva the Parana time mustremain fixed. AndJanma time that respect that is shown to thebirthday that will come earlier withinparan time. And not that theparana will go later. Such importance is given. Because Ekadasi

observance ofEkadasi in toto it is very important. As importance isgiven by the sastras.Devotee: Sometimes theparana time is calculated to be very earlyin the morning.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Sometimes according to the combinationtithi and (sanskrit) ect. they have calculated.Devotee: In England sometimes theparana time is before sunrise. Itsays on the calendar break fast after sunrise and before a certaintime .....Srila Sridara Maharaja: That is to be adjusted calculating in thealamanac. Between Navadvipa and Vrndavana thousand miles

difference. So how they calculate the difference in observance thatshould be extended to the west according to the milage. Because inAmerica is just the opposite; when day there it is night here. There isnoon, here is midnight. And Vrndavana and Navadvipa howdifferentiation. And in that idea that should be in England.Devotee: Sometimes the Parana time comes before we are finishedwith our morning program. Then we should break fast beforemorning program is finished? What is the result if one does not breakfast?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: That combination of the calculation of theEkadasi tithi by the sun and the moon's generally by moon's

movement, the tithi is formed. That is for the astronomers.Devotee: He's asking if by chance one does not do that.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Then Jiva Goswami Prabhu hasrecommended to come later not earlier. If one is in a foreign landand does not find any alamanac or any place then observe it towardslater time not earlier. That has been advised in general.Devotee: The other day I was here and you said that Mahaprabhucomes every Kali yuga


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Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Every Kali yuga as giver ofHari Nama.Nama Krsna namartam. Not as Radha-Govinda suvalitam. OrdinaryYuga avatara. Not only in here but in Vrndavana also. In everyDvapara Yuga Krsna comes. But only Yuga Avatara not Radha-Govinda lila. Radha-Govinda lila eternal in Vrndavana in supressed

way. Here also Navadvipa lila eternal supressed, underground. Butnot come on the surface of (sanskrit). ( ) eternal has gotconnection with the eternal. The subtle most plane is always presentin the gross thing. The either, electricity is present everywhere. Instone, wood, in brick, everywhere, and also transcending thismaterial. So the higher planes are so sublte, so real that it holds up,it supports all sorts of existance. That is the bottom or within orsurpassing transcending. So everywhere that is. The subtle mostthing, it's quality, it's movement is always there. Only it comes overthe surface asserts sometimes and in disguise present always.(Sanskrit verse) I am everywhere; I am nowhere. Either is

everywhere either is nowhere according to experience.Devotee: Mahaprabhu is golden color when He comes?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Yes. But it varies in case of ordinary Kaliyuga. In Narada Purana we find (sanskrit verse) the color of aparot, it is also mentioned. Varaha deva sometimes in black andsometimes in white color. In different kalpa the color may bedifferent. Sometimes it is mentioned. But golden color this ( ) itis the color ofRadharani which is fixed, golden.Devotee: Maharaja?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Yes.Devotee: When Mahaprabhu comes does the whole universe

become empty?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Empty? Why?Devotee: All the souls become liberated?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Not empty, but just like the current of theGanges river, passing and then agian filled up. That is also thequestion all liberated the question was put just as you did now.(sanskrit verse) The question of the other side was put. (sanskritverse) It will be filled up from the subtle plain ofBrahma loka.Devotee: Is that the same thing with Krsna and Ramacandra ?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: You see for the time being in particularsuppose the day of independance the government orders to release

the all prisoners. Prisoners are released then agian prisoners beginto come and fill up. In this way.Devotee: Maharaja, does that mean that the living entities that arein this universe at the present time were not here in this universewhen Mahaprabhu was here?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What?


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Another devotee: Those who are living here now they were not hereat the time ofMahaprabhu, they came after Mahaprabhu, he isasking.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Came after Mahaprabhu we may take it. Andsome of Hisparsidas are also here and there scattered. They are

sent for some good purpose.Devotee: Where did they come from? Did they come from anotheruniverse?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Generally they come from Brahmaloka.Infinite source is there. (sanskrit verse) The marginal plane is alsoinfinite. A line can be infinite, a plane can be infinite, a solid also canbe infinite. The marginal plane that is also infinite.Devotee: Is it possible in transmigration to go from one universe toanother?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Maybe. One universe to another universe.Generally after death, to enjoy the good and bad results of

karma ,they are transfered here and there to another brahmanda.Toanother planet also. Generally the ordinary people that have gotattraction for the early pleasure after death they are transfered tomoon, the moon being intimately connected with the earth. Agianthey have to return here for enjoyment or something. And those thatare a little of renunciating character they are allowed to cross theattractive plane of the earth and go further on other planet.(Sanskrit) In Bhagavad-gita it is mentioned (sanskritverse) Some one goes to( ) toward the Sun, taking the knowledge, the path of renunciation,theyogi, the jnani. They go crossing the attractive portion of theEarth. And those that have got attraction here they go to Moon and

they come back. But they do not have this body of flesh and blood sono such food is necessary. So only thinking that they have got someposition where they stay with this idea they can pass their time inMoon. Though no such food, no such things but only just in a dreamone may think that I am taking a shelter rain comming I am to takeshelter under some shed. All in imagination. Something like that.They hold the position of Moon. Then they again come shortly herefor fulfill their purpose here. They have got some interest debt somedebt and some graded loss they are connected with this relativity sothey have to come here for attraction. (sanskritverse)

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Devotee: Yuga avatara for Dvapara yuga yet He appeared on thebrink ofKali yuga .Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What?Another devotee: Krsna is Avatara for Dvapara yuga then why Hecame just at the begining ofKali yuga ?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Every Yuga recommended a particular dutyfor that Yuga. In Satya yuga, also in Treta yuga, in Dvapara yugaand also in Kali yuga . Every Yuga what will be the specific duty of


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that Yuga suiting to the season. So to recommend and to inauguratethat He generally comes. That is Yuga Avatara. He comes many atime but this is one sort of comming down. One type this YugaAvatara to inaugurate, to open what should be the duty of thatparticular age, He comes Himself and He does it by His own practice

and asks people to go on in that way.Devotee: But his question then why does Krsna come at the end ofDvapara yuga and not at the begining.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: He does for the necessity, the necessity ofthis Yuga for the Radha-Govinda lila. That was the main purpose ofcomming toward end.Devotee: Maharaja, How is it that Caitanya Mahaprabhu hadMadhavi devi as an intimate associate?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Not intimate associate but Madhavi devihas her ammased divine love to such a degree that a particularsection told that she is a great devotee ( ) ofMahaprabhu. Madhavi

devi. Madhavi devi meansSikhi Mahiti and Madhavi devi who isMadhavi devi ?Devotees: Sikhi Mahiti's sister. Sister ofSikhi Mahiti.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Sikhi Mahiti yes. A particular section inOrissa, they are of that opinion that Sikhi Mahiti and Madhavi devi ,they were very much attached to Mahaprabhu.They were greatdevotee, devotee of a high order ofMahaprabhu in Orissa. But that isnot generally accepted by the Gaudiya school. They show somerespect to that opionion of the particular section ofOrissa . In thisAvatara only there is two and a half. One is Sikhi Mahiti and half isMadhavi devi. Because she is women so half. That is also not easy to

be accepted. The women figure, only for the figure she will be givenless benefit. That is also not proper. A particular section is of thatopinion. It is ( ) , not real.Devotee: So Maharaja, exactly what offense did Chota Haridasaperform?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: We should take it as Mahaprabhu by Hisown person is teaching it to the public. He was not actually so; buthe was made to play the part of such a person. That the outwardlythat was given serious objection. That in the name ofMahaprabhuhe went to beg something from the lady. Mahaprabhu did not likethat. This to warn us that a particular plea, under the plea of

preaching or something we should not try to satisfy our carnal desirewhich is within our heart. Outwardly I am going to meet a person asif for the service ofKrsna or the service ( ) some benefit divine.But if within our heart there is something underground and thesatisfaction of that for the satisfaction for the real satisfaction of ourinner lust if we apply or use the plea of preaching comming inconnection with the outside that is a very serious offense. Do youfollow? Outwardly the plea of the God's service but inwardly at the


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same time I want my sense satisfaction. That has been condemed ina very strong way. That is very punisable (sanskrit) half truth ismore dangerous than falsehood. To take the advantage of theservice and under that disguise to go on one's own sense pleasure.To seek sense pleasure under the cover of devotion. That is a serious

offense. It has been showed there. That you are making your goodfeeling subservient to the lower tendancy. You are asking yourGurudeva to serve you. Such serious thing.That is a warning and we must be very careful of that when we arepreachers. And that punishment was given outwardly ofChotaHaridasa he used to sing around Mahaprabhu and Mahaprabhucould hear his song and other devotees also could hear. Butoutwardly he was sacrificed.Devotee: Once one of our sanyasis, ISKCON sanyasis, apparentlyhad fallen into sense gratification. And afterwords he commitedsuicide thinking that this was the only way of attonment. But later

Srila Prabhupada said it was not a very good idea.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Mahaprabhu showed that extreme exampleof punishment but still on higher level we should not depriveourselves from the valuable time in this human birth, most valuable.We must repent and will agian take advantage of this human birthtime to utilize. That was extreme case, Chota Haridasa. Mahaprabhuhad to be so much strict because He was conserving the love divinewhich is so similar to mundane lust. So to show the great differencbetween love divine, bhaja prema, and the what is going on here,the lady love. So to show though it may look to be similar this is justthe opposite. So strict to keep up the standard purity of the

standard He had to apply to take to such serious punishment. Underno circumstances this should be taken as that.Devotee: Maharaja, if a sanyasi falls down does he lose the grace ofCaitanya Mahaprabhu if he agian takes up the serivce of the Lordcan he regain the grace ofCaitanya Mahaprabh ?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Of course temporarily he loses but(sanskrit) agian he will try to get up and go on. Horrible creature weare, we won't leave any stone unturned. (sanskritverse) If we falldown on the ground agian with the help of the ground we shall try tostand up. And when the guru and the sadhu are there by theirforgiveness also we may be begun fresh life agian. On behalf of God

and mercy.Devotee: So Mahaprabhu behaves that way with Chota Haridasabut not with everyone?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Not everyone.Devotee: Would it be correct to assume that He did that.........Srila Sridhara Maharaja: But He did not like. There is anotherKalakrsna dasa, he was inticesed in the south He took hiim here andthen dismissed him from His company. But Nityananda Prabhu gave


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him some service engagement and kept within the fold. He is moregenerious.Once one when we were preaching in ( ), Andera desha,meself, Madan Maharaja, at that time Hyagriva Brahmacari, andothers two or three. We are preaching in that ( ) town. Then it so

happened that one of our brahmacaris he perhaps had connectionwith a lady and we are living in a ( ) that is a dharmshalla resthouse. And at night some people came with the cry that thebrahmacari has been found in the room of a particular lady. I was atthat time aling with headache, I was lying in the room and they cameand they aroused this Madan Maharaja the Hyagriva Brahmacari andtold that such things have happened. Then Hyagriva Prabhu cleverlytold that Maharaja is sleeping and his health is not well so tommorowmorning he will come and we shall do what is necessary. Then afterthey went away, Hyagriva Prabhu silently saying to me Maharajahave you heard what things are going on? I told yes I have heard

everything. Then what to do? At that time our Guru Maharaja was atMadras Math. I asked him I think you remove this boy just now. Justnow consult the railway guide the train wheather the Madras side orthe Bengal side, immeadiately remove him from this spot. And thenin the morning we shall see what to do. So Hygriva Prabhu took hisbedding and put outside under the shade of a tree. And came backand asked him you go. So he went to Madras. So just now at thattime, one o'clock, a train is going to Madras ( ) station. And hewas sent to Madras. Then in the morning they came then HyagrivaPrabhu he told that when Maharaja awoke at night I relatedeverything to him and he was very much enraged and immeadiately

dismissed him. Where he has gone we don't know. Then of course() was not there so things went on very smoothly.Then Tirtha Maharaja, old Tirtha Maharaja was in MadrasPrabhupada ( ) Anyhow he came to know why you have come andsomething like this. Then Tirtha Maharaja gave a good whipping anddrove him away from the Math. And he was living in Madras he waswith some industry there. And within six months Prabhupada agianvisted the place. And he was comming now and then "please acceptme." Then we told him that Prabhupada is comming shortly at thattime you come and we shall recommend your case. ThenPrabhupada came and that boy also came and we asked

Prabhupada that boy is still in Madras town and he is taking somebuisness here and he is comming now and then and he wants to bereinstated what we can do? Prabhupada told, and it was a strangething to us, he told "Mahaprabhu did not accept such persons so Ican't. But Nityananda Prabhu kept them. So your attitude should beto keep them. Then we were perplexed. Prabhupada says I can'taccept him because Mahaprabhu did not accept. But your dutyshould be to give him shelter because Nityananda Prabhu gave


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shelter. In this way. For the time being we were perplexed. Are wedisobiediant to you that we go agianst your order? But anyhow hetold that Nityananda Prabhu..........And another time also I was in Calcutta Math; letters comming,someone is reading letters to Prabhupada. One letter came from

Kurksetra Math that one gentleman was driven from the Math forsuch action, intimate connection with lady. They driven away. Thenagian he has come to Kurksetra to join. Then the Math commanderof the place has asked Prabhupada permission. That he is commingand I have kept him here and whatever you like to say I am to dothat. And Prabhupada , considering the letter, said only connectionwith thesadhu that can help us, help thejiva . sadhu sanga, krsnanama that is the only way to our relief. There is no other way, sohow can I drive away that man? Then he will have no alternative. Soasked him to keep him, no other way.Another time Prabhupada told I heard some complaint agianst

some big men in our math that his monetarty transaction issuspected. Prabhupada in the begining chastised me; You have alsoattraction for money. You are a sanyasi why should you have somuch attraction for money? The money may be thrown into water. Ifnecessary for the pleasure ofKrsna money may be thrown intowater. What is money? In this way he rebuked me. Then after fewdays in Madras Math, I was there he was also ( ) Suddenly he tookBhagavatam to me, your answer is here. (Sanskritverse) If anydevotee he has got some ( ) or anything undesirable is seen inhim, he is not to be punished for that. Either expulsion or any otherpunishment, he is not to be punished. Why? He is engaged in a

particuluar thing, that is the service of the Lord and that is the, thatcan fetch the highest value. So if he is given some punishment orexpulsion that cannot cure him, purify him. The highest form ofpurification is in which he is already engaged and that can purify tothe highest degree. So, no other punishment of any form isnecessary for him. He should be allowed to go on in the service andin no time he will be purified. So it will be adjusted. In Bhagavatam(sanskritverse) Anyhow, if any malpractice is found in him (sanskrit)Hari staying in his heart He will purge out everything He will sweepout everything. No other punishment or any alternative arrangementshould be made; for anaya bhak, who has exclusively given him for

the service ofKrsna no other practice. That was shown to me. Thatis the reason.So sometimes from the outward it appears awkward that hecommited something wrong, still he is given indulgence. Sometimesfrom outside it seems to be awkward but still that is the theory apicet suduracaro/bhajate mam ananya bhak/ sadhur eva samantavyah/ samyag vyavastio hi sah . Sadhu are sadhu measuredfrom the standard of this My satva, rajas, tamas guna or gunamay


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which is misconception. So from the plane of misconception good orbad should not be applied to My devotee who is working in thenirguna plane. This law does not apply there, in the case ofananyabhakwho is in nirguna plane who has accepted exculsive devotionto Me is all in all. Exclusive devotion to Krsna serving honest

devotedness to Krsna. When this has been accepted broadly in thesoul then whatever he commits in the calculation of this mundaneplane good or bad; that should be ignored totally. Because that is ofgood or bad, both is unreal in the misconception area and therewhatever little he can collect that is ( ) of infinitly greater valuethan any valuation, high valuation of this world of miscalculation.That is the conception. Do you follow?Devotees: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Isavasya idam sarvam. And here; this ismine, this is yours. Why you have stolen my thing? All false. Good orbad, everything false. In absolute sense everything belongs to Him.

He is His servant. In the necessity of service what he has done,perhaps he has stolen a flower and dedicated to Krsna. Not only it isstolen but from whom he has stolen he will be benefited.Unconciously. So nothing can be wrong. Absolute consideration andrelative consideration.Devotee: Maharaja, I have a question on another subject matter.When thejiva is in the grips ofmaya how much independance doeshe actually have?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: According to his position. A tree has got lessindependance, free will, a man has got the maximum. Also in that itis the gradation it comes in this way: (sanskrit) covered

consciousness. Then (sanskrit) narrowed consciousness. Then(sanskrit) blooming consciousness. And there comes (sanskrit)which is the narrowed consciousness, the animals, the bloomingconsciousness human beings, then also classification (sanskrit) asmuch as going higher so much responsiblity. And when in densedarkness his movements will be less productive and will be dealtwith mercy, more grace. And those occupying higher position, theircrimes should be given more importance. In this way it will bejudged. As much freedom, as much sense of responsiblity, so muchthe degree of punishment should be attached. If a sadhu dosomething wrong of course in his line there will be a bigger

punishment. Punishment means in the Vaikuntha, in a general way,in Vaikuntha no punishment. Only you accept yourself more, what isdone is done. Let the dead past burry it's dead. With new ( ) youare to begin. The most lienient position, in Krsna consciousness theyenjoy. But there the quality of sacrifice must be of a very high type.Is dealing also with very valuable thing. Because the whole selfsurrendering creed to be signed there in Krsna consciousness.Everything belongs to Him, nothing to me. Nothing to me, such high


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degree sacrifice to be that want to be signed sincerely. Then he cancome under such merciful consideration.Devotee: Maharaja, if real bhakti begins at the brahma-bhuta stage,what is this shadow bhakti ?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Sadhu bhakti.

Devotee: Shadow.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Shadow. Shadow bhakti. Brahma-bhuta.Brahma-bhuta prasannatma/ na socati na kanksati/ samahsarvesu........... What do you say?Devotee: Prabhupada talks in the Nectar of Devotion about shadowbhakti.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What does he say?Other devotees: Shadow attachement. Mentioned in BhaktiRasamrita Sindhu. Shadow attachment. (to the others) What's thatcalledpara -apara?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Sai bhakti

Devotee: Shadow attacthment asaktiSrila Sridhara Maharaja: Shadow?Devotee: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Saia rati ?Devotee: Yes.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Saia rati. That is of two kinds which is notgenuine. That is divided into two. One reflection another shadow.Shadow is considered to be the higher than the reflection. Reflectionin mayavada, really no faith. Faith is already, foundation is aconcoction. And in the case ofSaia it has not reached to the degreeof reality, but still it is in the real path. That is saia rati. Nearness.

Nearness of the reality, is shadow, but no intermediate intervention.But the reflection that is (sanskrit) there is that non( ) areabetween the two. So ( sanskrit ) is very lower and saia rati is nearerto the reality, but not reality proper. That is saia rati. In Hari NamaCintamani it has been described by Bhaktivinoda Thakura .Devotee: That means that thejiva's feelings are still in the relativeplane but they are somehow moving in the direction of the absoluteplane.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Moving in direction but far away from thereality. It has not touched reality, but come near.Devotee: Maharaja, Krsna says Man mama bhava mad bhakto fix

your mind upon Me. When we fix our mind upon Krsna the mindbecomes purified. Whe the living entity asscends into the spiritualworld, does he enter the spiritual world with his purified mind ordoes he have to leave behind his purified mind?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: He has real mind and this is shadow mind.What we are posssesing at present that is shadow mind. Mind is aplane where sympathy and apathy plane. Sympathy for somethingand apathy for something. San kalpa vi kalpa I want this, I want to


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reject this, I want avoid this. These two opposites desires lives inmind. And there also the mind is there, everything is there. And thatis self-centered and that is God-centered. That would be theresponse. (sanskritverse) They have got their mind. They arethinking I want this for Krsna, I don't want this for Krsna.' Krsna is

the object of interest there, the aim of interest. His love, Hissatisfaction. And here it is self-centered or this mundane centered.This land centered or family centered or some other centered thanthat ofKrsna.Devotee: So is it possible to say that the only difference between thematerial mind and the spiritual mind is a question of purification?Srila Sridhara Maharaja: A question of purification and the crieterionis that Krsna interest and other interest. One may sacrifice for thecountry; but that is not Krsna. The Krsna sacrifice, preparedness forsatisfaction ofKrsna to the utmost. That should be the crieterion.And everything is there and this is perverted reflection.

What's the time?Devotee: Five to ten. Almost ten.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Almost ten. So, Jayapataka,no, JayatirthaMaharaja, you are to return to Mayapura ?Devotee: Yes, in the evening.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: In the evening. So Dhira Krsna Maharaja,arrangements should be made to take rest at noon here for JaytirthaMaharaja.Devotee: Here is our eternal rest.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: What?Devotee: Our eternal rest is here.

Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Who has come along with you here? Whereare they?Devotee: Srimad Bhagavatam dasa.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: And?Devotee: Kisora-Kisori dasa, he is my second initiated disciple fromAmerica. And then Satyabak Prabhu came with me also.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: He is old?Devotee: Satyabak ? Yes, he is our old God-brother living inMayapura.Devotee: He comes every year.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: But who comes along with you from

London?Devotee: Srimad Bhagavatam dasa came along with me fromLondon.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: I want to make some inquiry about thehealth of Vaisnava Carana. And his mother.Devotee: You can inquire from Kisora-Kisori I think.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Are they well?Devotee: Oh yes.


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Srila Sridhara Maharaja: They are doing well?Devotee: Very good.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Alright. I got letter from her, VaisnavaCarana and also his mother a month ago perhaps. And I gave replyalso. And it is mentioned there they will come on pilgrimage for

pilgrimage in India. Do you know anything about that?Devotee: I don't know when they'll be ariving. I don't know.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: They mentioned in the letter they may goon pilgrimage to India before this Dola Yatra ceremony. And I askedthem that at that time you must come to see me. I consider you tobe my daughter.Devotee: I have heard only one report about them and that is theyare your unconditional servants.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: Vaisnava Carna is a promising vaisnava.When the Govardhana Sila was mentioned by to him by someonethat when Maharaja, that is meself, when I came here with

Govardhana Sila I began. "Oh how wonderful" remarked the boy.That boy remarked "How wonderful". Who came from his heart."That this Math was began only with Govardhana Sila , howwonderful." That showed his heart, inner heart.Devotee: We also think it's very wonderful.Srila Sridhara Maharaja: This is Gupta Govardhana, Giriraja inNavadvipa. (Sanskritverse) Means Govardhana, Kolera dvipaGiriraja (sanskrit) And Radha-Govinda line is that ofRupa Goswamiand who are we? From Caitanya deva to Saraswati Goswami theflow of the instructions we are bridged there and our stay is nearGovardhana. Aparadha bunjana.

So then Vaisnava Carna is not expected to come here?The end of the tape.

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