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802.11 PAR Review SC November 2015Date: 2015-11-02

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Name Affiliations Address Phone email Jon Rosdahl CSR Technologies Inc

a Qualcomm Company 10871 N 5750 W Highland, UT 84003

+1-801-492-4023 jrosdahl@ieee.org

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Abstract-Snapshot

Review of Proposed 802 PAR documents -- Nov 8-13, Dallas, TX, USA1. 802d - Amendment: URN Namespace, PAR and CSD

2. 802.1CQ- Standard: Multicast and Local Address Assignment, PAR and CSD

3. 802.3ca - Amendment, 25 Gb/s and 100 Gb/s Passive Optical Networks, PAR and CSD

4. 802.3cb - Amendment, 2.5 Gb/s and 5 Gb/s Operation over Backplane and Copper Cables , PAR and CSD

5. 802.15.3d - 100Gbps wireless switched point-to-point physical layer,  PAR Modification and 5C

6. 802.15.4t Standard: Low-Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (LR-WPANs) Amendment for a High(er) Rate Physical (PHY) Layer, PAR and CSD

7. 802.15.4u Amendment, Low-Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (LR-WPANs) Amendment for use of the Indian 865-867 MHz band. PAR and CSD

8. 802.16s - Amendment, Fixed and Mobile Wireless Access in Channel Sizes up to 1.25 MHz,  PAR and CSD

• Meeting times: Monday PM2, Tuesday AM2, Thursday AM2

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PAR Review SC – November 2015Chair: Jon Rosdahl

Monday Agenda:1. Welcome

2. .Nominations for Vice Chair/Secretary

3. Determine order of review

4. Review PARs/CSD posted for review this week.

5. Recess

Tuesday Agenda:6. Determine Vice Chair/Secretary for this week and beyond

7. Complete review of PARs/CSD and post comments to 802 WGs

8. Recess

Thursday Agenda:9. Review Response to Comments

10. Prepare Report for 802.11 WG closing plenary

11. Adjourn

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PAR Review Comments

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802.15.3d - 100Gbps wireless switched point-to-point physical layer,  PAR Modification and 5C

2.1, 5.2a, 5.2b and 5.5: Use of “Mbps” or “ Gbps” should be “Mb/s” and “Gb/s”

5.2a and 5.2b seem to be orders of magnitude different in the expected speeds and bands covered. Should the Scope be amended by this amendment to include the extra bands and speeds? An Amendment is a good time to adjust the scope of the base standard.

5.5 – missing comma “In data centers wireless links ----”

5.5 – extra comma “…with high probability, is ----”

8.1 – 5.2b – delete “the” in “intended the frequency bands”

8.1 – 5.5 - missing comma in “kiosk-downloading the link”

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802.15.4t Standard: Low-Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (LR-WPANs) Amendment for a High(er) Rate Physical (PHY) Layer, PAR and

CSD

2.1 Need to include range for “High(er)”

(See NesCom Conventions: “6. Quantification of the Ranges of Numeric Values For PARs for new projects, standards developers who use general terms to represent ranges (e.g. high, medium, low) within the title, scope, or purpose, shall numerically define such ranges where they first appear (title, scope, or purpose, as applicable). “)

5.2a – change “devices operating various license-free” to “devices operating in various license-free”

5.2a – What is the battery consumption requirements (car battery or coin cell for example)?

5.2.b Change “Mbps” to “Mb/s”

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15.4t CSD

Title page: should it include the name of the amendment?

1.1.1 change “Definitions were already and part of this standard “ to “Definitions were already a part of this standard.

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802.15.4u Amendment, Low-Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (LR-WPANs) Amendment for use of the Indian 865-867 MHz band. PAR and

CSD

2.1 Change “the Indian 865-867 MHz band” to “the 865-867 MHz band in the Republic of India.”

5.2b Add “Republic of” prior to “India”.

5.5 – Suggest use “W” for “watts”

5.5 – Change: “released a draft an Internet of Things Policy” to “released a draft Internet of Things Policy”

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15.4u CSD

Title page: should it include the name of the amendment? It would help the reader when looking at CSD to be self-defined.

1.1.1 change “Definitions were already and part of this standard “ to “Definitions were already a part of this standard”

1.2.5 a) change “This project can be implement with “ to “This project can be implemented with “

1.2.5 a) Add comma prior to “which”

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802.16s - Amendment, Fixed and Mobile Wireless Access in Channel Sizes up to 1.25 MHz,  PAR and CSD

In 2014, 802.16 was in the process of closing down open projects. What evidence do we have for the support of a new project?

5.1 – We do not believe that there are 15 interested parties when 802.16 has only 6 members. There may not be enough interest to support this project. Are you expecting a lot of cross interest from the Micro-wave society?

7.1 – 3GPP develops NB-IOT (narrow band LTE for Internet of Things) which is similar in scope to this project scope – from 5.2b: “This system profile will specify operation in exclusively-licensed spectrum with channel sizes up to 1.25 MHz, including 1 MHz explicitly.”

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802.16s CSD1.2.1 a) How does this project justify the claimed market share of the

cited studies, given that this appears to be one of many technologies in this competitive market place?

1.2.1 b) given that there are only 6 members of 802.16, that does not appear to match the list of “Multiple Vendors and numerous users” categories, what evidence of interests is there from participants in each category?

1.2.1 could be enhanced by including and building on the statement from 1.2.4 b) “At least five utilities in the US have either deployed or are testing a proprietary system based on a variation of IEEE 802.16 technology.”

1.2.4 – Concern that the statements are somewhat vague. Is there evidence that could be identified for the cited systems? How much of a Variation is the system cited? Could documents be cited from 802.16 document repository?

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Responses From 802 WGs

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References

IEEE 802 PARs Under consideration Webpage:http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/PARs.shtml

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