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ISSUE #10 (tenth anniversary issue) SEPT . 198 3

EDITOR : BARRY SOLTZ AKA EL BO Z

DESIGNQUALITYLAYOUT EDITOR : BILL PROETYPING : LOURDES GONZALEZ & LESLIE WIMME RCONTRIBUTORS : LISA ANGEL, CRAIG VAGUE, LARRY C ,JOHN CRAWFORD, LESLIE WIMMER, MICHAEL KOENIG ,JAD FAIR & M C KOSTEK, RUSS LEON, SCOTT CONN ,DARLA HAY, BRIAN DOUGLAS CLEMMONS, DAVID CAMP ,BOB FETZ

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c 1983 Suburban Relapse . No material may be use dwithout consent, however consent will be glad-ly given in almost all instances . Just ask first .

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NATIONAL DISTRIBUTION : Rough Trade, Systematic ,Testtube, & Toxic Shock .AD RATES : $30 full page, $20 half page, $1 5quarter page . Special band rates also . Circul-ation=1000 .COMING SOON : MORBID OPERA EP ON SUBLAPSE !

Sorry bout the delay but that's how it goessometimes eh? This is our 10th issue which Isuppose is a mini-milestone of sorts . Reall ydidn't expect to hang in there that long bu tonce you get started it's kind of hard tostop. I certainly want to thank all the peo-ple who've supported us over the past coupl eyears ; all of our contributors, advertisers ,distributors (the ones who have paid- the dead -beats know who they are), and all of our read-ers . Thanks a bunch !

I feel a few explanations and clarificationsare in order regarding this issue . Firstly-the Dead Kennedys . We aren't out to wage wa ragainst the DKs and Biafra although it may ap-pear that way . The view expressed in the ar-ticle are basically mine and do not necessar-ily represent the views of the rest of th estaff . I would certainly encourage you to ex-amine and weigh other viewpoints equally andfairly before making your own decision . Bas-ically I feel that in order for punk to gro wone must not be afraid to reject something on edoes not or no longer believes in . Don't be a-fraid to denounce something out of fear tha tyour friends or peers won't support you . It' sthis continuing process of rejecting the ol dand discovering the new that will keep punkhealthy and vital in the future . Let's kee ppunk out of the hands of the big media mongrel sand businessmen . It's our music- don't letpunk become the new dinousaur .

This brings me to the next topic . . . hard-core . I think it's pretty obvious that thi sissue is HC dominated . Need I repeat that weare not and never have been strictly a hard-core zine . We are open to all kinds of music .Please don't get me wrong, I love the AmericanHO scene but I feel that there's been too muc hattention latley on this kind of music whichhas resulted in a number of generic bands that

are literally undistinguishable from each oth-er . Instead of bands going out of their way tosound different, we have bands going out o ftheir way to sound alike . Funny isn't it? Inthis light we are going to try in the futur eto go out of our way to present bands who don' tquite fit the norm . Let's face it (as much a sI love em') but how many interviews have yo useen we are guilty I know) of Minor Threat lat-ley within the zines? Plenty I'm sure . Zinesshould not limit themselves . I strongly fee lzines have a responsibility to present ne wbands, ideas, and music . Grow, learn, and de-velop . We're gonna try and if we fail maybeI'm an ass but that's another issue so tillthen . . . peace, love, anarchy, and paisleyshirt power! -Bo z

I pause, hands inpockets, stuffed int oemptiness, eyes cas tan anchor rope to th eground . See myfeet? See how theynuzzle and rubone another throughthe boot leathersensually andaffectionate as i fthey'd just met .

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(and finest) fanzines, Touch and Go ; as founder of Touch an dGo Records, as leader and vocalist of the Meatmen and night ,he ' s never been at a loss for words . To put it nicely, th eguy ' s controversial but hey, isn ' t that one of the thing spunk was always supposed to be about? The followin ginterview was conducted over the phone in June .

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up with putting up with other people ' s ideas of . . . .some people, the latest people I worked with had alittle trouble dealing with me in terms of . . . I ' mauthoritarian when it comes to dealing with a bandand that kind of thing . . .so people that are used t obeing in a democratic type setting don ' t jive toowell with me .

SR : What are your plans now musically ?I'm gonna get a new band together starting in July .I'm gonna be working with John Dunn who used to pla ybass in Iron Cross . He's from England and stuff andhas some good ideas about things and he used to b ein that band, the Unwanted, which were like a ' 7 7Roxy London type thing, so he ' s been around th ewhole thing for quite a while . . . and a couple othe rguys, but nothing definite yet .Is it gonna be comparable to what you've done beforelike with Blight or the Meatmen ?No . It will probably be totally different . It ' sgonna be hard for me at first . . . One thing I don' twant to do which will inevitably happen, will b epeople will compare it to the Meatmen . I'd almos tlike to do it incognito . I want people to takewhatever . l do in the future for what it is .

t;4'SR : What about Blight? Who was in that ?T : That was Steve who used to sing for The Fix, he playe d

guitar . Mike played bass and this other guy Pat, wh olike never played drums before . Blight was grea tbecause we were like into practicing all the time andeven though our songs, the basic structure of the songs ,were simplistic, we practiced them so much that th epower really came out . Live we didn't fare too wel lbecause the Detroit crowd was really into . . .shave dheads and Negative Approach at the time and we cam eout like . . . I used to . . . we used to have like blac klights all over the stage and strobe lights and T Vsets on test patterns and I would smear myself wit hdayglo paint and like roll around on the stage an dstuff like that . It was a really fun band to be in .We only played out about 4 or 5 times .

SR : So getting back to the Meatmen, is "Blow Me Jah "aimed at the Bad Brains ?

T : No . It's aimed at . . . it might have been a bi tmotivated by it . Let me just say that I think th eBad Brains musically blow away pretty much any ban din the country . A lost of their ideology I thinksucks . Basically, that's an anti-religion song .It was gonna be "Blow Me God " but my sort o f..

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} 4the 60's and the fact that there's such a fervent . . .that whole sort of subculture and that whole thing . . .anything that reeks of the 60's in my book is prett ymuch nauseating . That thing was basically a sho tat the Beatles themselves . That song in itself isone of the more tongue-in-cheek ones we do .Obviously, I'm not promoting any Beatlecide or • 'whatever someone called it .When I was talking to Ian McKaye he said alot o fyour songs are a reaction against the whole 60' sliberalism thing .Definitely . Definitely cause I ' m old enough to havebeen sort of through the thick of it . . .How old are you ?I'm 27 . I was just a youngster but I definitelygot a good whiff and I thought it stunk pretty bad .Now I see alot of it rearing its head, thes eCitizens Against Marijuana Laws are doing alot o fpunk ralleys up here . They tried to get Screamto play a show with DOA last week and they tol dScream we ' re fanatically anti-straight edge an dwe wanna bring that whole thing down and theScream said no thanks . You know I've been accuse dof ridiculing the punk movement and I think that' spart of my motivation cause I see so much ignoranc eand hypocrisy and so much stupidity--just basi cpeople . . .50% . . . I don ' t know what the percentage i sof the punk audience are just mindless followers .They ' ll jump on any trend .How come you guys attack gays so much in your songs ?I don't really know why it is because people won ' tbelieve this but I'm fully supportive of ERA and I' mfully supportive of equal right for homosexuals andthat kind of thing . I don ' t know what it is . It ' skind of a love/hate relationship I have and I full ybelieve that gays have equal rights and I don ' t know,

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SR : Pretty ambivalent . Would you say most of your song sare based on shock value or do you have that whol eideology thing behind it ?

. I'm a definite believer in punk as theatre . Punk a sshock value . I think it's become now so complacent ,so generic, so boring that when I set out to do th eband I was determined to shock the punk audience . Iwanted to show them how passe and boring they hadbecome in their little political trips .If you had to choose between Reagan or Biafra forpresident, who would you vote for ?I'll take Reagan . Who would be the vice president i fBiafra was president? Would it be Timmy? I coul dmake a good cabinet, too . Yeah, I ' ll take Reagan .He ' s one of my neighbors here . Ron and I hit i toff pretty well .

SR : Would you say that the Meatmen were political to a nextent and not apolitical as some might say ?

. I ' d say anti-political more than apolitical causeto me that's like agnostic in a religious setting .I'm not an agnostic . I'd rather be like an atheis tthan an agnostic . An agnostic to me is just wishywashy . An apolitical is wishy washy and means youdon ' t care either way, and I do care about what happen sand I do care about the punk scene and I want to seeit come off looking positive . I don ' t like that there ' sso called communism and this and that and anarchy an dthat to me just destroys whatever credibility th eunderground scene has . When anybody hears these word sobviously in America it ' s a turnoff . The people inLansing got real upset at me when last summer they pu ton an MDC show they put on the flyers, Millions o fDead Cops, with blood on them, and I maintained b ydoing that they were blowing their own horn . Theymaintained that they were fighting city hall and the ydid get this ordinance thrown off the books, butsubsequently they had trouble doing shows without th epolice hassling them . . .

SR : What kind of person would you say goes out and buy sMeatmen records ?

T : Hmmm . . .hard to say . I work at a record store . I ' msurprised at some of the people who buy them, likepreppie girls buy them and really young kids who ar eobviously gonna get in trouble when mom hears i tplaying in the bedroom . . .and older people . Prettymuch everyone . I think the diehard Meatmen fan i sjust some kid who ' s just into what we ' re doing andlikes the scatalogical side of the whole thing . . .sort of the never properly potty trained kid likeus . . . our anal retendant stage still intact .

SR : What are your favorite bands ?T : Domestically . . . I ' m really into SS Decontrol, wit h

their new sound sort of like a tank with a dirge o fwall of sound, flows down no more thrash . Obviousl yMinor Threat . . .alot of D .C . bands . . . I like heavymetal to 4 certain extent . . .Venom, that kind o fthing . I ' D, also into the sort of sick underbell yof music the SPK, that kind of stuff, the VirginPrunes - they ' re one of my latest faves caus ethey're real sickos . Obviously Throbbing Gristle ,Clock DVA, the Cocteau Twins, Sisters of Mercy, an dMarch Violets . The English have a lock on that kin dof music as far as I'm concerned, but I'm reall yinto the American hardcore .

SR : What's your favorite porno magazine ?T : Umm . . . I like the real sleazy ones that have the bi g

fat girls in them like Dude, Bust and things likethat . It's realism to me . I look at Playboy an dPenthouse and its not real . I want to see what

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SR : '.-f St ' s your favorite drug, or are you straight edge ?T: I ' m totally off it . Like when Crucifix were here I was r..

talking to them and one of the guys goes " What about Vstraightedge " pointing to my beer . What I should have rsaid is that I'm straight-edge because I am, becaus eyou can be straight-edge and drink beer . I haven ' ttaken any drugs in six years . I used to be a realhead and got fucked up . Took too much acid . Irealized it wasn't too good for my body . . .

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would you say you have?3-Eippies, little Skinheads . . .G-People that have two trucks .

SR-Who writes the irrrredihle Roach Natal lgzirs ?S-.Geis. e writes all the M=b ones .

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Youth .R- imeJ-KrWE-Hated Youth .G-Actually, I do like Terminal Fun, but John

McGuigan . . .s J-Wargasm is better . They're more original .

Terminal Fun sound like Minor Threat . . . a• little too much like Minor Threat .

G-I like 31'ime .R-I'm glad somebody does .(Russ sings in Slime)

• J-Maybe if they did shorter sets .B-If they did "At the Hop" less than ten times .)C?0[R-"At the Hop" is a good song .ILOCIU0QCIXICKKG-Moral Sex isn't too good .R- e're—gonna have all sorts of people showing

up at RM gigs trying to beat your ass, George !SR-Bob, you also put out Destroy fanzine . Don' t

you think you over do your coverage of th eRoach Motel? Roach Motel "propaganda" ?

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R-Yes, Roach Motel has •only" been on the coverof Destroy five or six times .

B-Once, last issue, that's it : ` '

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for Destroy ?B-Jef fJ-Yeah, I review ourselves . Big deal .

• B-What about Morbid Opera and Suburban Relapse ?• SR-I never review Morbid Opera .•• B-Well, we put out Destroy . What can you say?

SR-If you rule, you rule, right?B-I have a t-shirt that says that .

• SR-I used to rule .• J-I could rule if I wanted to .

# SR-Are you planning another slamfest ?

R-Yes, son-of-slamfest .q B-Necros might play .

SR-A memorial for George?• R-Maybe this summer of early fall .

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B-Don't print this .• SR-O .K .

R-He'll still respect us .SR-What does everyone do outside the band ?G-Well, I like to surf, ski, hop into my jakuzi

watch t .v .R-Bachelor #3, would you swallow or spit ?G-surf,ski . . .R-skank,skate . . .B-I want to find the cure for cancer .R-I want to regenerate the toes I lost.

SR-Jeff ?• J-I go to school .• SR-Your major?

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• about your sex life .R-(in fridge) Can I drink this ?B-No! That's my last beer !

• J-Hey give it to me :SR-What's the story behind the incredible RM ?G-The Roach Motel started back in the late 50' sJ-When Bob was 20,then, when Bob turned 40, h e

decided to quit being a hippy .G- the RM has and always will exist . . .the

is God .SR-O .K. What's the real story?B-The first time we played, we played for

nothing . . .all our friends came out . . .R-Both of them . . .B-We could have beat off and they woul d

gone "God, you're great : "•

J-Basically, the story is the bandI joined .

B-We've had some good breaks, likeBlack Flag and Sacchirine Trust .

J-And the Sluts . . .playing with the"big" breeik for us .

B-They stole my beer !G-They're weird !

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G-But they're fun .R-They're still God .KR -

SR-Was opening for Minor Threat fun ?J-Yeah, they were fun to play with . . .make

straightedge jokes . . .B-It was pathetic though . All these people that

are normally drinkers went straightedge for aweek .

R-Not me . . .Is there• around here ?

SR-We drank it all already?• G-I only had one .

• SR-Are you straightedge?-No . hut- I'm the closest one toB-Closest nerd in the band! (to

don't you cut your hair ?R-Why don't we get more beer ?

SR-What do you think of the Florida scene?B-I can't understand why there's so many

hardcores in north Florida and they don' thave a fanzine up there.

J-They're in high school . They can't write yet .They're skating and stuff .

SR-Yeah the only bands I've heard from nort hFlorida are hardcore . Some hardcore is sortsstupid . How do you feel about the mindles sgeneric stuff ?

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good musicians ..3-They're about the best hardcore in Florida .

SR-How about the scene here in central Florida ?Can you get gigs fairly easily ?

~• J-At Reality Kitchen .B-Every week we had a gig there .J-And the police came . . . ,

SR-Yeah, I hear the cops show up at almost all.+your shows .

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said "Shut up or you're going to jail" . Jeffput his guitar against as amp and made lots o f

noise . It was a joke. Now they come to everyfucking gig ; It sucks . You set up a wholeshow and sometimes don't get to play .

J-At Reality Kitchen the cops show up becaus ethey don't like the counter culture there .

SR-Is Roach Motel political ?B-Oh yes, very political .R -We're marxist-anarchist-skum .

Jt J-We did all the circle A's on campus, on the• business building .

B-Like when we started as a punk band in '7 2there was no one but us . So when we got hard -core in . . .'74 was it ?

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similar politics so I don't see why we shoul ddiscuss it .

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•. SR-But all punks don't have the same politics .Some bands are coming out with "moral code "type stuff . . .neo nazis . . .

R-That's bullshit .$ J-I'm against that .

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B-And humor . It used to be fun .

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J-But Max .R&R is a good fanzine .•

B-The argument between MaxR&R and Crawfod isfunny. I like it .

SR-Why exploit it though? I'm bored with it .B-I like Fli side and Ripper better .

SR-The best fanzines have always bee nOrder, Mouth of the Rtt, BoringtonDestroy, Suburban Relapse,

R- I agree. The Florida scene is so fragile tha tI don't think we can introduce politics int oit . All these bands are just on the edge ofsurvival . . .just scrambling to stay alive . Ifwe start fighting each other, then that' sthe end .

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B-We're not that isolated down here . We've ha dsome greatws ; Black Flag, Minor Threat

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.arsMis its, D.K.'s soon, and the audiences aren' ta bunch of assholes .

R-We can't help it if we live in the ass end o fthe U.S . There's a lot of bands down here . Wejust need to organize .

J-Bands are better financed elsewhere .R-You have to work harder in Florida because

you have to put it out yourself . Florida ha sone of the most original scenes because th evenues are so small, you can do whatever wier dshit you want . The Florida scene needs tocohere, get over the petty shit, and we des-parately need a strong independent label .

B-Being competitive and fighting between band sis useless . It really is .

SR-O .K., we've established the fact that youguys aren't psuedo-politicos . . .So what's thefuture for the incredible Roach Motel ?

J-We're planning to break up one day .B-Have fun .R-More beer .

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In between sets at hoe-tans' premier night -dub, the self-;rrOrlat evd "rsubts _aerean na:ve~ uof lurid vice and glamour , " the "Rat ." band-members and ebrnns alike jovially head over t oreerhy Hagen Dee for cones and milkshakes .That's 'how sink Boston musicians acre .Alcohol, pills, acid, et-nook--or -even whumesor screwmagarines? Nada . Lust text books ,mom's homrebaked chordate chips, designer jean sand Boston Crock . You rant even say "aunt "without a zillion treaty, appraising eyes hammer-ing you against the wall . Lack , saang , Trick ,one-eyed snake or helmet? Forget it ; in Bostonit's (ssshhh) "Penis . "'Tanned in Boston" is -nc joke .On l y a dumb sticky ggn_mball 'would have youheilieve that the "underground" music :here is manethe worse for its -moral proclivity . The sounds ,In the leer U . S . metropolis with blue laws an dsafe streets . sufizr dearly for its throngs o fwide-eyed blondes, who roam dormitory after dorm-itory, with gaped teeth . ruby :cheeks, virgin ear sand ebony lipstick, incessantly babbling I' mgraduating! I'm graduating, I gotta find a hus-band, NOW! ! 1" and the hordes of anxious men wh orace gleeful?y after these twits like :hahnonsafter bananas .Boston is the nations proverbial .collegei(awn ; living and dying between September and May .for this they have never been able to sustain:any purposeful, concerted musical direction . Forbetter or ,worse, they are Bloomed as a transien tcollege wasteland, blighted with transient moll--age taste .Everything has this temporal :flakiness where

thoughts, sounds and -visi .a n Implode inside amonolithic ±0Te f;'1d; each rilwvs:nnom a jangleof phitremeent lights, eei p+pig mmimm,e n kerctthought and action, rxeati-a;tg a Tribe of bloodles s=ambles . Struts mina-fully committing arattai :l'suicide at the strike of at rin'es bell . Only,pur nermi = u sir-mS:mdetl den±zetrs

omit e x s ofurge 'bands, outcast ifrom psmguilar tremsilen tTaste .(eommentlye-Toman Koran ., Tank of iAwi . . ,toluene Cleb, C, Tra&&ne . )Llsrbs eevolve in a aa1f Aeatractime , copper -tam t ic rrycle, miElksmg

s and acs 'en thelatest lad„ without mo ariag a stranger, enduringso ne . f mmhlem is s m ell Sa m1meu by an a hxo-lut-e -vnirl of rezor',d wtzuas : closest altemnativeTermed .e ce e in or out of 'lost= is a 45 mi strr±d L eve, 3imokix 1ierords In 'Raeves . This leavestown hos'.tege to onambitiems radio -Trogranmipg .

OR BEIMOWN VITRIOLIrenirs i ly , the hard am:al lowing truth i sthat :must lostonians revel a ,*nowt musly Ae'hsiedfantasia : Home is,the !hub of -mui .ral enligl'atmen tthat rivals, at least, N . Y . or :Caldiornia m osweat . Furthermore, the perpetration of this-myth by sheer for ce of -positive xdciniki mg„ taxsomehow established a -national repotatimn that

supports this motion . I}b huh, and would you be-lieve 'Kenmore &,ore's Ciogo sign's elertrarisy ispowered by haymow:1 SolIvan and Nutkyy beRimmox' :sfl atuaticm s ?At the onset let's a mthne Tomtmm's = Emmertstatus by going back to the: la most Frolu i r goer -the roots of 1:97b and tracing tom* d . from'76r"79 -Boston was bristling o:1th asmanithentent .Their-now famous col l :•ge radio stations ne bur ..geoniagg •:untapped fhorimmns as 'tffT'a W R &PA theway Out of the Zara ages . Among sst s , theirI . J . 's Oedipus and Blowfish pro-.dut ed and :playe da wide variety of -crew music , supporting the local .scene ; The Teal Rids, D ;ffi .Z_ hare Thor, iP;abys.Arm, tisnjtsirr Aviators, :N coaus Tatars ,

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22Alexander, Thundertrain, Richard Nolan and Thir dRail, the Infliktors, Mission of Burma, the At-lantics, Pastiche, Tracks, the Girls, the Bimbos ,Reddy Teddy, Bloody Virgins and more were all intheir hey day and raving up singles at a dizzyin grate . Fanzines like Frenzy, Boston Groupie News ,Subway News, Miscarriage and Hardcore carried themomentum beyond the clubs . Seering times .

All good things end, time passed, and th eworst of these bands, the Cars cut a major labe lrecord that whacked the blubber out of Billboardand instantly legitimized the entire "punk" scene .Exploitation laps at the entails of success ; Oed-ipus was hired at the giant commercial station ,WBCN ; major labels courted the bands they ha drejected demo tapes from just a few months earl-ier . Absolutely the crappiest of bands wer esigned : the Rings, Human Sexual Response, theElevators, etc . From all corners of the country ,Florida, California, D .C ., etc ., bands flocked t oBoston faster than they could write songs, drawnby the smell of money and the rationale that Bos-ton was easier and less frightening to break int othan the big-bad apple was .

More time flys and the clubs succumb to thi sshit and slam the brakes on booking "risky "groups . "Safe" corrupt clubs opened, like th eChannel, and small but cherished dives opened ,like the Underground, to collect misfit and out -cast bands ; the Rat hired Thrills "vocalist" Bar bKitson to book bands, the club has yet to recove rsave for 50% of the shows booked by Julie Farman .

While this transpired, luminary radio per-sonalities from WMBR rode the wave of popularit yand found paying D . J . positions ; MBR weened Cras sthe town groupie, became program director an dinstantly ruined commercially funded WLYN ; MBR' sGreg Reibman took over the awe inspiring reins ofeditorship at Boston Crock magazine . And whichwas then hailed as the most important developmen tof all, Oedipus was promoted to music director a tWBCN . His promotion started an avalanche of ro-dent D . J .'s impoverishing the radio, on bot hcommercial and college stations .

If the shit hadn't hit the fan by then, th ecrap rolled like dice now . Boston's only cuttingedge club, the Underground, closed . Streets ,another good club, opened down the "street" an dshut doors soon thereafter . Rebop, the citie sonly responsible independent record store, close dfor good . Doug Simmons came to regurgitate weekl yin the towns only regular music column . Othercollege stations gained listeners ; WZBC (BostonCollege) became powerful playing the worst bran dof syntho-swill imaginable . Mike Dreese and New-bury Comics capitalized at the expense of th eyoung punkette "BIB" club members . And most dis-apointing, Oedipus, a gutless diarrhea turd whostill to this day colors his hair blue, announce dto his blind and eager brown nosed followers wh ovollunteered at his station "EVOLUTION NOT REVO-LUTION," a fuckless sellout excuse, delaying an ypositive change on the air . This proved not t obe a procrastinating slogan, but a sly, vulga rcamouflage for an out of touch aging poseur in -tending to keep his job by playing a lame demente dcatch up game to the country's #1 rated, dun gflinging dinosaur rock of WCOZ .

That's how things stand now . To this day theonly golden boy from MBR to keep his integrity i sAlbert Oram . Currently, Albert has a regular spoton BCN and trys to squeeze in as many Boston band sinto the format as possible .

Who are Boston's current bands? By virtue o ftheir cliquei.sh nature and sheep mentality they'v eherded themselves into three easily distinguish-able groups and two others that keep away from th erest . They are : 1) The Modern Method/WMBR powerpapcontingent 2) the Propellor Records/Allston ar tband collective 3) the highschool hardcore gang .And keeping their distance : 4) the turned off an dturned on garage bands and 5) Non-aligned groups .

MODERN METHOD/MBR POWER PAP(With this incestuous group we find MB R

supplying D . J .'s, Newbury Comics hiring them an dall conspiring to sell what they play . Problemhere is what sells sucks coupled with D . J .' sReynolds Wrap ear drums .)

GOOD--None .ALRIGHT--Someone and the Somebodies . . .Bass heavygroup not unlike the Grateful Dead on reds . . .TrisLozaw, bass extraordinare, pens Take It! Magazin elocal column . . .bands moment came while touringwith U2 .FUCKIN' TERRIBLE--The Dark . . .Considered by mos tas Boston's worst band . . .every member would givetheir left testicle to be John Travolta clones . . .stay clear of all records and they ' re worse live .Primitive Romance . . .A native FLA band that movedto Beantown to capture "wealth" and success una-tainable in FLA ; that was their first mistake .PeterDayton . . .Formerly of Boston's late, great'77 band La Peste . . .solo effort is blatant sel lout . . .might've broken up if their manager hassquandered her $6 million inheritance yet . . .bandowns lotsa pairs of pointy toe shoes .BoysLife . . .Young cockless brats, stupid an dsassy . . .lots of flugelhorns .Outlets . . .Same,though not bad when more garag ethan glitz .Till Tuesday . . .Winner of this years Battle of th e"Bands," that oughta tell ya something . . .likeKate Bush singing lead for Duran Duran . . .withformer Dark members, Amy Mann apparently clinche d'Battle' title when her "boob" popped out of herA-cup .NovemberGroup . . .Gay disco too bad to be calle dtrash . . .Recently signed with MCA ; Gerard Cosloytells how Rick Harte warned MCA not to sign "be -cause their singer and manager (Joan ' IrishSetter' Martin) are gay and what if they have afight?"

PROPELLER/ALLSTON ART BANDS(The best Propeller had, left for Ace o f

Hearts Records . In sum, much integrity here ,but little else . )GOOD--Christmas . . .A modern day "Girls" . . .sincebooting synth "player" and adding bassist Da nSalzman this eclectic foursome is one of Boston ' sbest bands . . .everything is uphill from name on ,and they've a single out and a cut on a Propello rsampler . . .sounds like the Cramps led by Sumne rCrane .DangerousBirds . . .recently split up as singer /guitarist Thalia quit . . .Thalia Zedek is bes tfemale musician in town . . .manic, rambling guitarbacked by traditional new wave snore-rhythm . . .on various Propeller product .ALRIGHT--Wild Stares . . .When sick and sloppy theyare King G-od, when not, just another Clash clone .FUCKIN' TERRIBLE--Sale m 66 . . .Led by Persian Cat-woman Judy Grunwald, her heart arresting set o fknockers would've made band popular if soundwasn't so anemic .NativeTongue . . .Mission of Burma clones with rec-ords .NewModels . . .more Allston than Propeller . . .start -ed at Underground, but spread cheeks wide enoug hand now the per of Ric Ocasek .V ; . . .not a bad art band, spawned at Underground . . .broke up recently .

GENERIC HARDCORE BARBANDS(Boston's most overrated jive . These knight s

in black stains, while dressing alike and takingstraight edge vows, regally posit that D . C . wen tstaight edge and L . A . donned combat boots foll -owing their example . )GOOD--S .S . Decontrol . . .Led by Lethal (guitar) an dSpringa (voice,) they're Boston's only h . coreband with an ounce of integrity or brains . . .Twoalbums out and maybe they'll lean more on theiroriginal durge-sound than the slam dance shtick . . .Debuted only 2 years ago at a Take It! Magazinewrestling extravaganza, marking the first localh . core show ever . . .should tour West Coast soon ,good catch .ALRIGHT--Uncalled Four . . .Funny as hell, cover"Girl from Ipanema" . . .never accepted as part o fthe gang (good) .FUCKIN' TERRIBLE--Proletariat . . .gotta hand it to'em, they pulled the wool over the eyes of Boston sb .c . clique-they ' re commies!! The skin heads

23would flip out! if they only understood th elyrics!!! . . .band preys to Gang of Four poster swhen not masturbating, but still find it withi ntheir Marxist hearts to accept money for gigs .F .U .'s . . .2nd most popular h .c . band next to S .S .D .-any at times, but mostly humor escapes me . . .2nd L .P . coming soon .GangGreen . . .broke up, thank G-od .Negative FX . . .broke up, thank ratan .Jerry'sKids . . .on stage their hypnotizing .LouMiami . . .hardcore for fags . . .slam butt fuckin gat gigs (woo!) . . .since AIDS scare . they hand outrubbers with each paid admission .

GARAGE BAND S

(Only group that includes retugees trom '77 .Bands are generally hot shit but only a few ar e

new; mostclub goers shun garage groups (too loud )in favor of less ambitious ass squating music .Cantones (old bar) gave birth and supported mos tof these bands for 6 years up till it closed afew months ago . )UNFUCKIN ' REAL!--The Lyres . . .#1 Boston ban dperiod . . .evolved from Mono Man's '76 DMZ . . .they've a new single on Boston's hands dow nbest record label, Ace of Hearts, and lots o fother vinyl including a soon to be released LP . . .Greatest dance band I've seen anywhere--anytime ;lots of obscure nuggets primarily from '60's N .Western punk (Sonics, Wailers . )ClassicRuins--Evolved from Baby ' s Arm . . .wis hFrank Rowe still sang "I'm a Wimp" . . .one rec out .HopelesslyObscure . . .Ken 'Gizmo' Highland's newone . . .a ton of originals and covers, they do ove r600 songs ; catch 'em when they come to town, wil lplay forever if permitted .Willie Alexander . . .The 'King' of Boston RnR' . . .ha sgreat nights and so so ones these days .KilSlug . . .Nosiest stuff in city . . .I used to man -age them, but have lost touch . . .excellent tape ou tMission ofBurma . . .Classic band, great to the end ,broke up 6 months ago . . .live EP expected though .MightyIons . . .Broke up too, but were a hefty 1- 2punch when billed with the Lyres ; guitarist DannyMcCormick now plays for Lyres with rest of DMZ . . .heavy Dictators and pro wrestling influence .Customs . . .Legendary street bum, Bill Tupper, lead sLyres rhythm section, with Mono on drums . . .gagband better than 99% of towns serious ones .Motherfuckinshitheads . .My band with Kenne High -land (what's point of writing for no $ if y acan't toot yr own horn?) . . .broke up when Imoved but recorded original studio material t obe released one day . . . "Edgeway of Fizz" destine dto replace "Freebird" at dorm parties . . .acheive dnonpareil success, as John Martin of Boston Roc ksaid "Most of our 30,000 readers have seen yourband . "

RealKids . . .Primal Boston band . . .John Felice andAlpo the dog rave on .JonathanRichman . . .Used to play with Felice andhas recently moved to California cause he wa ssick of the butterflies and ice cream at FenwayPark .BlindOrphans . . .only for cornersewers of noise . . .Depraved Dave ' s horror aesthetic .

ALRIGHT--Neats . . .Used to be one of the best, bu thave grown sickeningly slick . . .if you catch the mon tour and tired, they're likely to be slopp yand that's likely to prove matchless . . .Ace o fHearts LP in the can .Last Ones . . .D .M.Z . offshoot . . .Cantones favorite .TheOdds . . .same as above .billyGoons . . .everybody in town on stage ; sort o fextension of Mighty Ions .Del Fuegos . . .when on, their ON ; when off jus twait'l next time . . .a mono single on Ace of Heart sis expected .Eric Lindgren/Birdsongsof the Mesozoic . . .wax nowout on Ace of Hearts . . .experimental microchi pmeanderings ; alter ego of Roger Miller .

FUCKIN' TERRIBLE--Neighborhoods . . .forget wha tyou've read before, as Willie A's back-up ban dthey cut the mustard, now they squirt it .007 . . .replaced Dee Rail with another black bassist ;Fc7w're ya gonna do that? . . .Motown pop is vunder-bar ; the rests not .FutureDads . . .broke up . . .Richie Parsons third band ,T hear, is his worst .

MIA's . . .right idea, but synthesized stuff comes ot tIlk--beer farts .

NON ALIGNED BAND S

(Time to time a band comes out of the blu ewith a terrible record ; never playing out, norare they heard from again . They value theirindependence and are smugly insensitive to al lmusic, which shows, and who'd certainly b ebetter equipt to play if they learned to stea llicks . The best of the unattached bands are fromthe suburbs or Rhode Island . Fanzine diletente ,Gerard Cosloy, whom I'm indebted to for the up tothe minute details herein,claims two brand spank -in' new bands, with horrible names, "Sorry" an d"Moving Targets" are the future rage . )

GOOD--G .G . Allin . . .A ton of singles . . .an animalwho is banned from every club in town . . .on stag eat a Take It!show he winged a beer bottle an dsmashed some kid in the forehead at the back o fthe club . . .music's every bit as violent .Plan9 . . .Ten hillbillies from Providence chur nout garage classics . . .get any record and walk amile for a show .ForeignObjects . . .From Amherst, with a single . . .if they moved to Boston they'd catch on, but a sis sheepish dj's stay clear of their excellen tgarage/wrestling stuff .

ALRIGHT--Rubber Rodeo . . .You'll get to hear thi stwisted country mulch on their forthcoming Poly -gram rec . . .time has eroded much of their origina lhumor .

Men &Volts . . :Destined for obscurity (unfairly )

as a Beetheart deranged crew . . .look for their LP .

Red . . .Nimble fingered guitarist, Ottmar, come sFrom Germany, they do avante different there .Shutup . . .If they only played out or put outrecords they might become Boston's finest . . .weir. doffshoot of Robin Amos, from the Girls .

FUCKIN' AWFUL--The Angry YoungBees . . .Queer pop . . .bands day came when dj toungetied them the Angr y

Sams .Trademarks . . .Stupid, unethical uniformed popsters .

DigneyFignus . . .Like his name .E.dieWalker . . .If he didn't evoke shades of Elvi s

Costello he'd be okay .

DYS . . .A hardcore joke band of Boston College dj' s;MO- hyped themselves to obscure fame, canned thei rdreams at graduation, then moved back to Ma an dPa's country homes to become principals, ministers ,

and all-round goo samaritans .

And that's how it goes in Boston : Bogus hype ,obscure fame, and graduation to greener pastures .But hey, don't get me wrong, while you're here ,you can have lots of fun . As my pal Tina Borott osays, "We had the best time that you can have i nBoston without being out of town . "

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The MINOR THREAT Interview :Including Wha tTo Do With A Frozen Rat .

By : David Camp, Bob Fetz, and Boz .

Minor Threat need no introduction to th ereaders of this rag, so we won't bother . Thefollowing interview has been greatly edite dfor various reasons . Recently there's been aflux of interviews with the band in a numbe rof different fanzines . Since many of the ques-tions and responses were similar, we didn' tfeel the need to reproduce everything again .The interview was conducted with the whol eband present . Time:Spring 1983 . Place :Gaines-ville, Florida .

Key :Sublapsers : (D) David Camp, (B) Boz ,(F) Bob Fetz .

Minor Threat : (I) Ian, (J) Jef f

D: Do you think that the American hardcore sceneis healthy or do you feel it's stagnating?

I: It's healthy and it's stagnating . It's aort alike the human race .

B: As it becomes bigger, would you say it ha sbecome more diluted ?

J: As you go along, there's bands that come alongthat later you can draw upon all the differen tstuff from before, like the '77 stuff .

I: There's slot of bands replacing energy wit hspeed . We call it paddle thrash . There's s omany bands that do that, it takes away fromsome of the impact .

F: What did you think of the crowd last night ?J: All I can say was people certainly didn' t

know our songs . People were just crowdingaround the stage looking around . . .

I : . .they didn't come up and look at the othe rbands like that . I think people were inter-ested . I wasn't offended by it, but it' scertainly frustrating, especially for me ,when you put out so much . . .One thing I hateis when a band says, "Come on, you fuckers ,dance :" If they dance, it's fine. But, actually ,we have more trouble where there is incredibl eamounts of action . . .I mean New York, an dBoston, and even Washington, when there's s omany people on stage . . .D : How do you control that?

All : We don't :I : We make a point not to . One thing we do i s

try to keep them away from the equipment .I have this great want to beat the shit ou tof people like last night, but I fight it backreal well now . It's frustration . . .it's not hate .

D : Do you think people really get anything outof your lyrics ?

I : I think slot of them do . I think slot of m ylyrics, as opposed to being instructions o rinformation about the government, are a littlebit more along the lines of something peopl ecan apply themselves to . I have one song ,"Little Friend", that I think people have alittle trouble understanding . It's a reallypersonal thing . But as far as the messag ething goes . . .just the fact that we come offas . . .we are like pretty normal and generall ypretty nice . Maybe there's a message in that .Last night we were talking with that littletyke from Sector 4 . (Note: as rumor has it ,the drummer from Sector 4 went up to the band

25and said, "Hey, what is it with you straight -edge homos anyway?") . He could not even fatho mthe idea that we didn't drink . He said, doyou smoke joints? and we said no, and h ecouldn't believe that . He said, of course yo udrink . . .I don't think it could have occure dto him that there could be a straight band .That's not our only thing, but just the factthat we can just go out and put out that muc hwithout having to cover up with anything els eand maybe there is a message in that . Also ,we try to be freindly, smile, and have a laugh .

D : Do you get much sarcasm from people when yougo on tour?

I : Sure, like in San Francisco when we stayed inthis house . We walked in and they had thishuge horse syringe and they left bongs every -where . It was like a big joke to them . Anywaythey were trying to fuck with us and tryin gto offend us . That's the kind of sarcasm Fedealt with . I think the big joke is on themin the end anyway . Our whole thing is notjust the straight edge thing . It's not evennecessarily the most important thin . I knowthat we don't just sit around and discuss howwe're straight .

D : After the band broke up the 'first time, wha tmade you decide to bring Minor Threat bac ktogether instead of starting a new band ?

I : Well, we did start a new band, but, it didn' twork out . Brien was in the GI's . Why did w edecide to get back together instead of some-thing else? The rgason os we are Minor Threa tand we worked hard to be Minor Threat . Say ifwe got back together as, say, the Four Fags .No matter what, forever and forever peoplewould say ex-Minor Threat, Minor Threat, MinorThreat . . .it didn't make a whole lot of differ-ence . The point was . . .I had a very stron gfeeling . . .it was like an incomplete thing wedidn't finish . We just sort of stopped .

B : What about Max . R&R and the new punk morality ?I : Umm . We don theany aspiration for govern-

ment and that's just our personal beliefs .B : What about John Crawford whose . . .I : Read Max .R&R, but also read John Crawford' s

All the Drugs You Can Eat . I personally foundthat 100,000 times more interesting thanMax .R&R, just because it's a turnaround, ashock to read . I read it and just pouredthrough it . I think it's good to have a goo dwar like that .

D : One more question ; tell us about Henry' s(Rollins) rat . . .

I : What about it?D: I heard rumors about it having a wierd time

with Jello Biafra one night .I : Henry's had many rats . There's alot of stories

about rats . Let me know which one you'r etalking about . . .give me a hint .

D : Did he let a rat melt on Jello Biafra on enight ?

I : Yeah . Henry had a rat . First we dyed it blackand put a mohawk stripe on it and it got atomonr from the dye and it died . Instead o fburying it, we made a coffin out of a mil kcarton and we froze it in the freezer andBiafra was staying there and Henry took therat and put it on him and let it melt downon him.

D: While he was sleeping?I : Yeah . I could tell you stories about pets . . .

We used to play badminton with a real deadbirdie . We've done some cruel stuff, I promise .

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needed as to how boring . .id stale much ofthe scene down here has become . Both F and th eGay Cowboyc demonstrated this to me by doingthe exact opposite . That's right . These bandsare about having fun . Both bands fuck the sa-cred hardcore cow and the end result for mewas as close to a religious awakening as I'l lprobably ever experience in my lifetime . Thes ekids are assuridly crazed (and that goes out t othe entire F-Troop/Gay Cowboy contingent)-nota sane one out of the bunch which of cours eis a sure sign of greatness . If the Gay Cowboy splay your town don't miss em' and that's allI'

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ROCK AGAINST REAGAN on Boston Common, May 15

by Scott Con n

Live jive for the masses . . .MDC and the " Rock aginast Reaga n "tour (Stupid band name, stupid tour name, stupid tour) pul l

into Boston Common for a free show to liberate the oppresse dand entertain the liberated and clothe and feed the poor an dhungry and . . .huh? Well, Jesus, it's for their own good . . .

I guess that's the reasoning, or the excuse . Whoops, noneed for excuses or apologies when you're doing the RIGH T(righteous) THING . Well, they set up and blast "The Message "over the P .A . to bring in the minori :i1s (slick move that one )too bad it was the highlight of the afternoon . First up ar ethose radicall current-events rockers themselves---MDC .

Actually, they do a pretty good set (too bad they ' ll neve rmatch their first single) . Now after that it gets pathetic . . .They must have dragged every burned-out reactionary politica l

hack they saw off every street corner and let 'em spew forththeir tired party-line shit, in between this parade of wannab eBatmans (ya know, crusaders for justice) . A few bands play ,but by this time it ' s getting dark and the crowd has thinne dto the point it isn ' t a crowd anymore and this guy start ssinging a song about the evil wonder bread and I know I haveto leave, even though the Crucifucks have yet to play (whic his the only reason I was there in the first place) . Nowplease, don't put me on the " against" side of the politica l

debate, that ' s not the point of this review, I think bothsides are almost unbearably boring . This is just meant to b e

yet another example of how ridiculous things have become .Yes, indeed .

Saturday Night!

Charlie Pickett Live at Blitz !

For those of you who were n ' t at the Blitz Saturday nigh t

(most of the punk rock heads were) here ' s the lowdown :

The cover was $3, but we got in free which was no

bargain. The drinks were fairly high considering that Idrank so many . The joint was a typical Big ')vddys, excep t

for the clientele . The polyester crowd was replaced bysomething worse : the "Can ' t make up their mind " crowd .

Attire ranged from leather bound punks to Echo and th e

Bunnymen look alikes . I think the club should provic e

name tage for their patrons . I was quite embarrassed whe n

I asked David Camp for a Tampax (even more shocked when h e

gave me one) .But for those of you who want to go to cool places ,

tease your hair and get over to the Blitz . Oh yeah! Ialmost forgot there was a band there, too . Charlie Picket tand the Eggs, known to their families as the Picketts . They ,

didn ' t have funny hairdos, well . . . not that funny . They

played a good hard set, they were in tune, and they were al l

there at once . They ' re a good R & B band . I personall ycan ' t get excited over them, but they are a talented lot .Even if the guitarist only has one pickup!

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D .A .M. at the Rockin' Robin . Ft .Lauderdale .June 26, 1983 . Real rough sound . Bad jokes .Basaguitar solos . Not real fast . Stupid skatejokes . Role playing . More pokes at jokes . Lousyamplification . It was the most fun I've had ata gig in a long time . A great start for thesefour guys . But will they get fucked up befor ethey get famous? Don't Ask Me: (CRAIG VAGUE)

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REcc),RtVARIOUS "WE CAN"T HELP IT IF WE'RE FROM FLORIDA "(DESTROY 7"EP)--- The definitive Flavoid compto date (I admit that's not sayin' much) . Fivebands here from various parts of the stat e(Roach Motel, Hated Youth, Morbid Opera, Secto r4, and Rat Cafeteria) along with 13 songs whic hspells a bargain to me . Four loud n' fast ripem' up HC bands plus one (Morbid Opera) withtheir own "weirder than normal" spew . My favesbeside the afforemented M .O. are ector 4 andRoach Motel who earn my vote for g ong titleof the year with 'My Dog's Into Anarchy" .Political consciousness to the max! If youcouldn't guess already . . highly recommended .(POB 4927 Ft . Laud, F1 33338)

(BOZ )

VARIOUS "MINUTES TO GO' (MINISTRY OF CULTUREcassette)---- Larry 6's anti- nuke cassett ecomp. Actually it's more a forum of ideas (a sopposed to a conceptual statement) since Larrylooks disdainfully on mass movements (wants t oavoid liberal guilt) . Huh? Sure . . . ah what everyou say Larry . Well regardless of whateve rLarry's intentions may be this is one of th ebetter cassette comps around . Post- holocaustmusic with Attrition, Savage Republic, ReaganYouth, Minimal Man, Arsenal, and more than Ican mention . Side two features a reading o fthe Strategic Bombing Survey and the effect sof the A-Bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki . In-stead of spending $4 on your next six pac ksend it off quick before it's too late (onlyminutes to go remember?) to MOC, Rockefelle rCenter Sta . POB 1088, NY, NY 10185) .(BOZ )

L-SEVEN (TOUCH & GO 7 " EP)---- Non HC band onTouch & Go's Special Forces subsidary so som enarrow minded skinhead won't buy this expectin gNegative Approach . Pretty female vocalist front-ing this progresso punk/psychedelic band . Fansof Siouxsie, Penetration, Mood of Defianc e45 Grave, Cocteau Twins . . . will probably likethis as much as I do . Recommended . (BOZ )

MARC RILEY "FAVOURITE SISTER" "CARRY MI CAR D-- or all you out there

that like the Velvet Underground and love tha tjingle-jangle 60's sound, this single is foryou . Marc Riley's (late of the Fall) vocal slipsin front of then behind the guitar and drums .The drum sound is really special . It's big andreally BOOMS . The timing of the songs is righton . They dust sound sloppy and that is theircharm. (LESLIE WIMMER )

OMEGA TRIBE "ANGRY SONGS" (CRASS7"EP)---Decent ,but not outstanding. Some strong sentiments ar eexpressed, but the music's not particularly over-whelming . "Time for Change" fares the best withits powerful drums, but there's a ballad her estraight out of Moody Blues/Jethro Tull land .(BOZ)

GAY COWBOYS IN BONDAGE "WE'RE NOT GAY BUT TH EMUSIC IS!" (YOU'RE A WEEN cassette)--- OnlyFlorida could produce something as tasteles sand trashy (read : great, incredible, etc . . . . )as this . GCIB are a bunch of bored suburban tyke sthat churn out some of the greatest fast foo dgarbage induced- not give a fuck puke rockthis side of Red Kross . Too bad they're strait-edge (har har) . I'll get right to the point -these guys are my new cult heroes and for th echeap price of $2 .50 you all should be send-ing away for this . Write to 3613 Lime Hill Rd . ,Lauderhill, F1 . 33319 .

(BOZ )

CH3 "AFTER THE LIGHTS GO OUT" (POSH BOYLP)---Mare punch n' power than last year's "Fear o fLife' which despite the presence of some goodtunes was lackin' in the guts department . Thi srock n' punk disc delivers the goods with moreforce and conviction . Actually it reminds me ofold Clash without soundin' too muck like em .Not as crucial as the Posh EP but this one willgain she band more fans . (BOZ )

ANDY T"WEARY OFTHE FLESH" SCRASS7")--- Ayematies, it's Andy T . A political John Coope rClarke? All kidding aside, a great record . Tonsof political observations backed with noise ,music, and voice . The only downfall is the(British) one-sidedness when he speaks abou t"dirty squatters . A record well worth theinvestment .

(CRAIG VAGUE )

PYLON "CHOMP" (DB LP)---One of the few decentbands to come out or the greatly over-ratedAthens scene . This isn't bad, but it's not astough sounding as their first, a minor classicof sorts . You can probably put the blame o nproducer Chris Stamey, the wimpy guy from thedB's (the group, not the label) . I still likethis however ('cause I like Pylon), but the yshould dump Stamey next time .

(BOZ)

MEATMEN "WE'RE THE MEATMEN . . . AND YOU SUCK "(TOUCH AND GOLP)--- The cover ain't no bigpoop but that's irrelevant to the grunge wait-ing for you inside . Included (for those o fyou who missed out the first time) is the comp-lete " Blood Sausage" EP remixed and remastere dthat comes off sounding slot more powerful .The rest of this is live Meat showing off theMeatmen's scatalogical humour to good advan-tage . Pass the meat! (BOZ )

LEPERS "GOD'S INHUMANE" (UNCLEAN 7" EP)---Notquite as primal as their "Evil Music" single .The Lepers go for a more direct HC sound on thi sEP foresaking the psychedelic tinged punk o fbefore . Regare'ess this is still swell, theirraw tough sound really shows . Fave tunes : "Bitchand Moan" and "Christmas in Reverse" . ($2 .50to 1310 College Ave . #1133 Boulder, CO 80302 )(BOZ)

33PENIS HYMERS (DEMO TAPE)--- Makes the GayCowboys seem like mature adults . . . well maybe .As legend has it, this was recorded over twoyears ago . The Penis Hymers never existed a sa band as such, they were just a bunch of lit-tle kids recording songs in their bedroomfor their own listening enjoyment . Try to im-agine Jad and David Fair age 11 loose in thei rrooms with a $30 Radio Shack recorder and yo uwill have an idea as to what this sounds like .Immaturity rules! Fave tunes include "I'm Gonn aPull Down My Pants", "Bah! Happy Things? The yMake Me Mad Moo" "Reagan is Your Lord" an d"My Girl Has Balls" . Not for sale but you cantry writing Ken Decter 690 Estate Way, Atlantis ,FL . 33462. (BOZ )

SONIC YOUTH °CONFUSION IS SEX" (NEUTRAL LP)---Great LP from these NY noise mongers . One ofthe best things to come out of that big vacantcesspool in a while . Hard droning thumpingbeat crap that's guaranteed to wreck havo csomewhere . Fans of Flipper, 13 13, and the Birth -day Party take note . Get this one fast beforethey make records like this illegal . (BOZ )

VARIOUS °TRY ADULL KNIFE" (VERSION SOUND CASS-ETTE)--- Another great cassette comp from BobMoore . This comp focuses on the bands fromRiverside, California- a simple musical docu-ment . Diverse styles are represented ; HC, noise ,punk, art . . . . My favorites include the thras hlike HM of White Flag, Chaluenga who coverPink Floyd's classic Astronomy Domine", Deat hPatrol, and the Sins . Comes with an informativefanzine . (POB 174 Xenia, Ob 45385)

(BOZ )

LARRY JOE MILLER & HIS ROCKABILLY ROCKETS(BY MY7"EP)--_ More authentic rockabillysounds on this . The emphasis is on the pri-marily acoustic instrumentation and th eslow rockin' groove . I find this 50 timesmore appealing than all the pseudo rockabillybands out there . A good single but th ecover's queer . (225 SW 19 St, Ft . Laud, F133315)

(BOZ)

FACTION "YESTERDAY IS GONE" (IM7"EP)---Another sports oriented hardcore band . . . youknow . . . another bunch of hardcore skaters .How come none of these bands do other sports ?Like raquetball or golf? (beats me?) Anywaythis is a pretty good record . It kicks ass inmost of the right places but it won't total-ly blow you away . (2349 Carlton Av, San Jose ,CA 95123) .

(BOZ )CHARLES MANSON "LIE" (ESPLP)--- I found thi srarity at a local record swap . Expecting someterrifying hallucinagenic babble I was sort o fdissapointed to find out that this is nothingmore than typical hippy dippy folk music . Stil lthere's something odd about the way Chuck sing sthem tunes like "People Say I'm No Good", "Sic kCity", and of course that ole Red Kross fave"Cease to Exist" . Accompanied by the family .Do the creepy crawl!

(BOZ )

RUBBER RODEO "SHE HAD TO GO . . ." (EAT12' EP)--Wavey record for wavey people . The wavest! (BOZ )

SPANISH DOGS "DON'T SWEAT THE PETTY THINGS .(RASTA DOG 7 " EP)--- File this record with Rub-ber Rodeo . More wavey sounds . I like the girl' sbreasts on the back cover,that's about it .(275 E Oakland Pk Blvd, Ft Laud, F1 ) (BOZ )

BIRDSONGS OF THE MESOZOIC (ACE OF HEARTS 12 "EP --- A Mission of Burma spin-off band . If youwere expecting a continuation of where th eformer unit left off forget it . This 14 moreout of the Phillip Glass/Eno school of ambientcosmic nothingness . I'll file it in my back-ground music pile .

(BOZ)

__MODERN INDUSTRY (TOXIC SHOCK7"EP)--- Goo dHC disc mixing in touches of 60's punkadel-icia and a harder HM sound. I like the snarl yvocals best . (Box 242 Pomona CA 91769) (BOZ )

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LYRES "I REALLY WANT YOU RIGHT NOW" "HELP YOUANN' ACE OF HEART 7 --- More Pebblesqu eraunch from the Lyres . This is oatoky 60' sinspired garage punk that doesn't sound tkeleast bit dated . One of the best bands aroun d"-)rkiho. in this genre Reccumen'se. 1O '

WHIP"riau 601 *THE SOUNDS OF' NO HANDS uLAPPiNG '(CFYLP)--- Mostly dudsville . Predictable thrash-nothing really manages to"rise above" to producemuch of a reaction . No danger, no purpose, g,Qfun . (POB 6271 Stanford . CA 94305) (BOZ )

U-BOATS "DEAD AND DESPERATE" (CROW 7 " EP)--- Th esecond U-Boats EP is an improvement over thei rfirst in terms of general production and songquality . "America Unemployed" is the best thin ghere- a pretty tough power basher . (3126 East54, Z-.,,hyrhille, F1 34248'

(BOZ )

VARIOUS "POSH HITS VOL . 1" (POSHBOYLP)---A good retrospective from this importantWest Coast label . It's kind of hard to gowrong with CH3, Black Flag, Agent Orange, Re dCross, Social Distortion, etc . . . . Unfort-unetly most of the material has been previous-ly released but it'll make a great gift forsomeone who's just gettin' into punk rock .K-Tel should be makin' records like this . (BOZ )

POLICE STORY

uREATURES "FEAST".WONDERLANDLP)--- Dreamy andexotic sounds within . . . the Creatures are tex-tural music utilizing unusual percussion andother instrumentation . Martin Denny meets Siou-xsie Sioux . An interesting diversion but certain-ly not a substitute for the Banshees .. (BOZ )

NO DIRECTION "REGANOMICS"/''WHERE'S THE BEACH? "(NO DIRECTION MI= Straight foward punk onthe ReagansgT'de . Muddy sound . (POB 46 Sioux FlsSD 57101) (BOZ )

VARIOUS "RISING FROM THE RED SAND" (THIRD MIN Ddouble cassette comp)--- Excellent intro tothe European progresso/ industrial scene . Goodvariety of styles from the more approachable(at least within this context) Five or Six an dSection 25 to the ghastly other-worldy scenariosof Nurse With Wound and Nocturnal Emissions .The only thing (noticeably) missing are linearn tes . . mry a**s tung th-nu"' Rnuvh -side . (BOZ)

METHOD ACTORS "LIVE IN A ROOM" (PRESS 12" EP) --- The Method Boys go for the funk train onthis outing . I say where's the Pop Group no wthat we need them?

(BOZ )

PSYCHO (AX/CTION 12"EP)--- The cover of thi sreeks of generic HC but don't let that foolyou cause this is one hot monster disc . Firstoff any band that can turn in a scorchin 'version of the Sonic's 60's garage staple ,"Psycho" is A-0K by me . The rest of this isalso ace- plenty of strong thrash and sharp-edged punk . Along with the new S .S . Decontrol ,the FU's and this, the Beantown scene has neve rlooked so good . (POB 57 Kenmore Sta ., Boston ,MA 02215) (BOZ )

NOCTURNAL EMISSIONS "DEATHDAY" (STERILE cassette )--- Demanding of your attention . Unremittingl yharsh industrial music . Guaranteed to strike anemotional nerve somewhere and that's what thi sform of music's all about . (90 Lilford Rd . ,London ENG. 5E5)

(BOZ )

SIN 34 "DO YOU FEEL SAFE?" (SPINHEADLP)---Big boss sound on this elpee . Better than theirEP which suffered from crummy production . Fastthrash par-tee music and Julie can be my ne wgirlfriend if she wants to be . Thumbs up on thi s(especially the Devo cover) . (2265 Westwood Blvd#541, L .A ., CA 90064) (BOZ )

MENSTRUALCYCLES "SKIN/PUNX" (CYCr .FS 7"EP)---Alas . The leaders of the Hialeah of contingentcome forth . 0i mate! Fuck those Americanwankers! Fuck the U .S .A.! Well . . . no accountin gfor brains but this poorly produced (sorry Dave- no matter whose fault it was) piece of trashain't half bad and sort of appeals to my gara-ge/noise minded aesthetics . Actually it sound slike how I would imagine S .S . Decontrol soundin 'after getting drunk for the first time . Funnie rthan the new Monty Python movie .

(BOZ )(1056 W 43 P1 ., Hialeah, Fl . 33012 )

WHITE FLAG "S IS FOR SPACE"(GASA-TANKALP)---Outragous, satirical, imaginative, and funnyas hell . The punk equivalent to Zappa's sati-rical stab at the hippie culture, We're OnlyIn It For The Money" . Besides the heavy socialsignificance here, this LP is a marvel bothmusically (plenty of bone-crunching riffs) andtechnically (watch out for the trick grooves) .White Flag are a band that are setting up thei rown rules and I respect them for it highly . Un-doubtably one of the most original and imagin-ative punk bands to come along in quite awhile ."We don't care if it's a drag . . . . surrende rnow raise the white flag!" (1241 N . Harper ,Suite 6, Hllyd, CA 90046)

VARIOUS" .TITF. BOX"(nassette)--- A compila-tion of various South Florida bands . Everything from hardcore to synthopop are repre-sented which is the main problem I see wit hthis . So in order to get to Crank we have t oput up with the M-TV bound Radio Berlin . Regard-less there are some very worthwhile thingsin here (unfortunetly some of the better band ssuffer from inadequate production especiallythe Eat whose stuff is way too clean- theynever sound like this live) . Also included ar eLarry Joe Miller, Cichlids, Gay Cowboys inBondage (doin' a goofball country tune) ,Charlie & the Eggs and more . ($3 .50 to JoeHarris 226 NE 5 Av, Dania F1 33004)

(BOZ)

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THE WOLFGANG PRESS "THE BURDEN OF MULES" (4A Dj--- A 4AD supergroup! The Wolfgangs are com-prised of past and current nembers of Rema-Rema, In Camera, Dif Juz, and Mass . A varietyof moods and sounds within- sometimes quiet . . .othertimes more abrasive . Some of this work swhile some of it doesn't . An album to listento . Certainly not one of the strongest piece son 4AD but just like everything else on thelabel you will find something recommendablewithin .

(BOZ )

SHORT-TERMMEMORY "EVERY HEAD NEEDS CLEANING"(INDEF . CASSETTE--A band that continually teetersbetween experimental and avant-pop . All electronicsand done well . Sometimes vocals and tape loops .Sometimes these are smart and appropriate an dsometimes they are stupid . The tape cover isstupid . Overall, a great tape if you can get bysome of the wacky vocals and words . What els ecan I tell you? (P .O .Box 8146, Shawnee Mission ,KS, 66208) Oh yeah, they're from Kansas .(CRAIG VAGUE)

JOHANNA WENT "HYENA" (POSH BOYLP)--- Sound slike Lene Lovich having an abortion . I suppos eyou have to see her live performance art t oreally appreciate this . I'll hold judgementtill then .

(BOZ)

GOD'S GIFT "DISCIPLINE"/"THEN CAME CALMAGAIN "4NEW HORMONES7")--- Fallish sloppy drunksound on "Discipline" . Of course I like it .B side is OK .

(BOZ )CHAMELEONS "A PERSON ISN'T SAFE ANYWHERE THES EDAYS"/"THURSDAY'SCHILD" (STATIK7")---The Cham-eleons make moody, slightly spooky, well craftedmusic . Fans of the Cure, Psychedelic Furs, an dWire will be delighted to find another ban dcarrying on the style of swirling echoy guitars ,slightly off key vocals, and pulsating heartbeatdrums . The A side concerns itself with mystery ,madness, despair, and violence . "Thursday' sChild", while a bit more up tempo, is stillrather morbid . "Please leave my mind intact as Islowly grow older" the singer begs . A singlegood for grey, overcast days . (LESLIE WIMMER )

SLEEPING DOGS "BEWARE" (CRASS 7"EP)---Cras slabel's first American outfit . The Sleeping Dogsare in tune with the Crass family politics, butwith an American perspective, naturally . Musically ,this is twisted and dangerous sounding . Guaranteedto make an impression .

(BOZ)

VARIOUS "RODNEY ON THE ROQ VOL . 3" (POSH BO YLP)--- The weakest of the Rodney series . Th epunk side fares the best primarily the Vandal s(included on latter pressings) with "UrbanStruggle", J .F .A ., CH3, and Red Scare . Thenew wave side blows except for the Bangle swho turn out a cool surfin' instrumental . (BOZ )

SLIME "WHY CAN'T GUYS BE SLUTS" (OUR OWN cass-ette)--- A last minute lame review since th eperson who was supposed to review this splittown forgetting to mail me her reviews . Weirdgarage punk with a 60's flavor on some of th etunes . They're supposed to be real obnoxiou slive . (B-22 1015 SW 9th St, Gainesville, Fl .32601) (BOZ )

UK DECAY "RISING FROM THE DREAD" CORPUS CHRISTI12"EP)---Rather overblown piece of progresso-pun kpretension . Regardless, the powerful productionand dynamics help save this from becoming a sappymess . Actually, it sounds pretty good cranke dup loud with your ear glued next to your speaker .(BOZ)NECROS "CONQUEST FOR DEATH" (TOUCH & GOLP)---A brutal stellar attack from start to finish .This is straight overdrive all the way an dif you're a noise monger like myself you'l lhave to agree that this is loud raucou sgreatness . Instead of blowing your hard earn-ed cash on the next DK's 2 song twelve inche r(spell : rip-off) buy this instead . The Necrosare bad, brutal, and ugly! (BOZ )

CONFLICT "IT'S TIME TO SEE WHO'S WHO" (CORPUSCHRISTILP)--- Pretty decent rockin' punkdisc .•Unfortunetly this doesn't quite matchthe power and originality they displayed ontheir debut EP for the Crass label . Non-theless this is still recommended and Conflic tare one British pork outfit worth watching . (BOZ )

INTROVERTS "TWENTIETH CENTURY" CIA cassette)-- -Progresso post punk . Lacks a sense of dram aand danger to make much of a notable impression .(3603 Avie Houston, Tx 77007)

(BOZ )

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FLESHEATERS "A HARD ROAD TO FOLLOW" (UPSETTE RPj --- Direct from the "darkest cave of hell "

comes the new Flesheater's LP and it's a goodone . Chris D's lyrics are typically unsettlin gand with that voice of his that goes SCREEC Hyou know things ain't right somewhere . The band' sdemonic heavy metal drunken swagger adds furth-er fire to the proceedings . Album number 4 an dstill happenin! (BOZ)

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f Japan-ese! Take a song like "Walk Through Walls "and turn it way up and put a gun to yourhead . You'll find out how easy it is to pullthe trigger . There's five (literally) monstersongs here from one of America's origina lauthorities on noise rock . Not all these selec-tions are like the aforementioned . Side oneis rather likeable after you listen to it acouple times . But if I see one more skull on arecord cover : (CRAIG VAGUE)

YOUTH BRIGADE"SOUND ANDFURY" (BYOLP)---Ifthere can be such a thing as American 0i, thismay be it . Not that Youth Brigade are coppin gfrom their British counterparts, it's just thatsome of the slower tempos, the sing-a-longchanting choruses, and some of the youth unitythemes on this record lends itself to compar-ision . Good job . I like this .

(BOZ)

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38ALTERNATIJE "IN NOMINE PATRI" (CRASS 7"EP)---Great! Excellent Brit punk played with muchofury, aggression, and style . An unrelentingmusical attack that hammers forth a messag eworth listen' .ng to . Pick it up: (BOZ )

RF7 'SUt3MIa TO THEM FREELY" (SMOKE 77")---A side is great punk/thrash/HM played the wa yyou'll like it . Certainly consistent in qual-ity with their other releases . The two song son side B I'm not particuarly crazy about ,especially the Creedence cover of "Fortunat eSon" . Worth buying for the A side . (BOZ )

THE REPLACEMENTS "HOOTENANNY" (TWINTONELP)---The Replacements continue to refuse classifica -tion as they plow through a variety of rock n 'punk n' folk stylings . Informally recorded ina warehouse somewhere in Minnesota, the rawnes scomes through to make this record what it is :a good ole' time hootenanny . Long live garages ,basements, ''d warehwees

(ROZ '

NEW ORDER "POWER . JJRRUPTION,Aai,DIES" (ROUGHTRADELP)--- I'll probably never feel the sameabout this band. Technically brillant but emot-ionally cold . Comparasions to Joy Division areuseless at this point but where's the fire? Act -ually I rather prefer their dance stuff lik e"Blue Monday" . Can't wait for the scratch ver-sion .

(BOZ)

Interview with Spit Sti x

by Russ Leon

I was seated in Rich Evac's (Contagion) living room in L .A . ,

when in walked Spit Stix of FEAR . It seems he has a lot o f

spare time to pursue solo projects these days .

SPIT: I 've been producing a rap group called ' The Red HotChili Peppers . ' They ' re all white Europeans . Whenyou hear their stuff it's really hard to believe .

They ' ve got that ethnic feeling down to perfection .There are a few L .A . clubs that are just for rap andthe people into it .

RUSS : Are you doing anything on your own these days ?SPIT: Believe it or not, I'm doing some reggae . I've alway s

wanted to, but I couldn ' t find anyone who was capable

enough to help me or who was interested .

RUSS : Really, no one was interested ?

SPIT : Oh, there was interest, but not enough talent . SoI ' ve been obliged to do it all myself .

Spit put on a new tape for me . It was one of the slickes t

reggae dubs I have ever heard . I'd even buy it .

SPIT : I've been able to get into the production side o f

reggae .RUSS : What about your own tunes ?

Spit played a sort of PiL/Reggaesque number called Brainwash .

RUSS : Who backed you up on this song, Spit ?SPIT : That ' s FEAR, believe it or not . (It is hard t o

believe, its reggaessence is so rich and cohesive . )Since I couldn't get any other help, they al lpitched in . I guess necessity really is the mothe rof invention . But they don't really want to go inthat direction . It was just to help me out .

Listening to two cuts from the tape, it is plain to see tha tFEAR are truly professional musicians capable of going of fin an entirely new direction, for them, with a great deal o fstyle and form .

SPIT : The Rastas are calling me Brainwash these days, bu tthe punks still call me Spit .

RUSS: What does your mom call you ?SPIT :

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