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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION OF FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS MEMORANDUM TO: Technical Committee on Transportation of Flammable Liquids FROM: R. P. Benedetti DATE: May 29, 2015 SUBJECT: Agenda for NFPA 385 First Draft Meeting Web Conference - June 11, 2015 _________________________________________________________________________________ Gentlemen: Attached you will find the Agenda for the NFPA 385 First Draft Meeting web conference to be held beginning 11:00 AM (Eastern Time) on Thursday, June 11, 2015. This material will also be posted on the NFPA 385 Document Information (DocInfo) web page and can be downloaded from there. Please review this Agenda prior to the web conference. (Access information will be distributed separately.) For those Technical Committee members who are unable to participate, please send me your recommended actions on all six Public Inputs. rpb/ cc TRA Meeting File TRA/NM

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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION OF FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS

MEMORANDUM

TO: Technical Committee on Transportation of Flammable Liquids

FROM: R. P. Benedetti

DATE: May 29, 2015

SUBJECT: Agenda for NFPA 385 First Draft Meeting Web Conference - June 11, 2015

_________________________________________________________________________________ Gentlemen: Attached you will find the Agenda for the NFPA 385 First Draft Meeting web conference to be held beginning 11:00 AM (Eastern Time) on Thursday, June 11, 2015. This material will also be posted on the NFPA 385 Document Information (DocInfo) web page and can be downloaded from there. Please review this Agenda prior to the web conference. (Access information will be distributed separately.) For those Technical Committee members who are unable to participate, please send me your recommended actions on all six Public Inputs. rpb/ cc TRA Meeting File TRA/NM

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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION OF FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS

AGENDA

Technical Committee on Transportation of Flammable Liquids

NFPA 385 First Draft Meeting Web Conference Thursday, June 11, 2015, 11:00 AM (Eastern Time)

1. Call to Order. 2. Introduction of Attendees / Update Technical Committee Roster. (Attachment № A1) 3. Approval of Minutes of Last Meeting. (Attachment № A2) 4. Technical Committee Chair’s Report. 5. Staff Liaison’s Report. Technical Committee Scope (Attachment № A3) Technical Committee Membership (Attachment № A3) Revision Schedule for 2017 Edition of NFPA 385 (Attachment № A4) 6. Old Business Deferred from Fall 2011 Revision Cycle. Tanker-to-Tanker Transfer (Attachment № A5) High Flash Point Cargoes at High Ambient Temperatures (Attachment № A6) 7. Review and Action on Public Inputs to (Proposals to Amend) NFPA 385. (Attachment № A7) 8. Recent Correspondence. (NONE) 9. Other Old Business. (NONE) 10. New Business. (NONE) 11. Schedule for Next Meetings or Web Conferences. 12. Adjourn.

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Address List 12/08/2014

Transportation of Flammable Liquids TRA-AAARobert P. Benedetti

David W. Hollinger

TRA-AAAChairDrexel University3201 Arch Street, Suite 350Philadelphia, PA 19104-2756

Phone/Cell: 215-895-5908 202-689-5214Fax: 215-895-1560Email : [email protected]

U 10/27/2009 Mark A. Beavers

TRA-AAAPrincipalFORCON International2542 Grassy Knoll LaneRichmond, VA 23236

Phone/Cell: 757-256-7080Fax: 804-276-3015Email : [email protected]

SE 03/07/2013

John L. Conley

TRA-AAAPrincipalNational Tank Truck Carriers Inc.950 North Glebe RoadArlington, VA 22303

Phone/Cell: 703-838-1960Fax: 703-838-8860Email : [email protected]

U 1/1/1992 Scott R. Connor

TRA-AAAPrincipalTeam-1 Academy Inc.760 Pacific Road, Unit 19Oakville, ON L6L 6M5 Canada

Phone/Cell: 905-827-0007 x26Fax: 905-827-0049Email : [email protected]

IM 3/21/2006

Todd M. Hetrick

TRA-AAAPrincipalExponent, Inc.4580 Weaver Parkway, Suite 100Warrenville, IL 60555

Phone/Cell: 630-487-0030Fax: 630-658-7519Email : [email protected]

SE 10/20/2010 Steven P. Iovinelli

TRA-AAAPrincipalFranklin Park Fire Department10001 Addison StreetFranklin Park, IL 60131

Phone/Cell: 847-678-2400 224-629-0236Fax: 847-671-6529Email : [email protected]

E 7/28/2006

James R. Kittrell

TRA-AAAPrincipalKSE, Inc.PO Box 368Amherst, MA 01004

Phone/Cell: 413-549-5506Fax: 413-549-5788Email : [email protected]

SE 1/1/1994 J. R. Nerat

TRA-AAAPrincipalUTC/Badger Fire ProtectionW-6615 Number 11.5 RoadWallace, MI 49893

Phone/Cell: 906-863-9860 906-290-0000Fax: 906-863-9867Email : [email protected]

M 8/2/2010

Stephen P. Rinaldi

TRA-AAAPrincipalKuna Rural Fire DistrictPO Box 607Kuna, ID 83634

Phone/Cell: 208-922-1144 208-571-0041Fax: 208-922-1982Email : [email protected]

E 07/29/2013 Jeff Sims

TRA-AAAPrincipalTruck Trailer Manufacturers Association1020 Princess StreetAlexandria, VA 22314-2247

Phone/Cell: 703-549-3010Fax: 703-549-3014Email : [email protected]

M 1/15/2004

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Address List 12/08/2014

Transportation of Flammable Liquids TRA-AAARobert P. Benedetti

Jacob Waldschmidt

TRA-AAAPrincipalCity of Kenosha Fire Department8201 61st StreetKenosha, WI 53142

Phone/Cell: 262-694-1851Fax:Email : [email protected]

E 7/29/2005 Michael P. Wilson

TRA-AAAPrincipalAmerican Insurance Services GroupEngineering and Safety Service545 Washington BoulevardJersey City, NJ 07310-1686

Phone/Cell: 201-469-3142Fax: 201-748-1950Email : [email protected]

I 1/1/1976

Robert P. Benedetti

TRA-AAAStaff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

Phone/Cell: 617-984-7433 617-571-8494Fax: 617-984-7110Email : [email protected]

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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION OF FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS

MINUTES of WEB CONFERENCE

Technical Committee on Transportation of Flammable Liquids

Friday, August 20, 2010, 10:00 AM (Eastern Time)

I. Participation

D. W. Hollinger, District of Columbia Fire/EMS Department S. P. Iovinelli, Franklin Park Fire Department J. R. Kittrell, KSE, Incorporated J. R. Nerat, UTC / Badger Fire Protection R. P. Benedetti, National Fire Protection Association, STAFF LIAISON

II. Minutes 1. The web conference was called to order by Chair pro tempore Dave Hollinger at 10:30 AM. 2. Participants introduced themselves. The Staff Liaison asked participants to forward any

changes of their contact information to him by email. An updated roster will be circulated to the Technical Committee when available.

3. The Minutes of the last meeting (Conference Call, April 2006) were unavailable, as they

have been archived. 4. The Chair pro tempore had no report for the Technical Committee. 5. The Staff Liaison reported on the following:

Technical Committee Membership. Contact with John Eubanks has been lost; his telephone and email address are both inactive. It is presumed that he has resigned from the committee. New member J. R. Nerat was appointed to the committee August 4, 2010. The balance of interests on the committee meets NFPA/ANSI guidelines.

Technical Committee Scope. The Technical Committee discussed whether to delete

references to portable tanks and containers (NFPA 386 was withdrawn several cycles ago.) or to add reference to intermediate bulk containers (DOT-spec portable tanks are a subset of intermediate bulk containers). The Technical Committee decided against any changes, in case the committee decides to address containers, portable tanks, or intermediate bulk containers at some future date.

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Next Document Revision Cycle. The Staff Liaison reviewed the schedule of events for the Fall 2011 document revision cycle.

6. The Technical Committee reviewed and acted on all proposals to amend the 2007 edition

of NFPA 385, including thirteen committee proposals suggested by the Staff Liaison. The Staff Liaison was directed to prepare the Report on Proposals (ROP) for letter ballot.

7. There was no recent correspondence that required the Technical Committee’s attention. 8. There was no “Other Old Business” that required the Technical Committee’s attention. 9. Under “New Business”:

The Technical Committee discussed, but deferred any action on, representative operating procedures for tanker-to-tanker transfer of liquids. The Technical Committee determined that this issue requires careful consideration and would require development of a new chapter or new annex chapter, not just simple task list. Technical Committee members are asked to review the procedures and provide any comments or suggestions to the Staff Liaison for circulation to the committee.

The Technical Committee discussed, but deferred action on the issue of Class II and Class III liquid cargoes in high ambient temperature environments and at what point they might have to be treated as Class I (flammable) liquids. The consensus was that the issue could be treated globally, rather than provide guidance at each paragraph where this might be a consideration. The Staff Liaison was asked to suggest a means to address the issue and circulate same to Technical Committee members for their advice and comment. Agreed-upon language could be added to NFPA 385 by means of a Committee Comment.

10. The Technical Committee agreed to hold a web conference to handle any public or

committee comments at a convenient time between March 4, and May 6, 2011. 11. The web conference was adjourned at 12:45 PM.

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TRA Scope Statement & Member Balance.doc - 5/28/2015

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION OF FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS

SCOPE STATEMENT

This Committee shall have primary responsibility for documents on safeguarding against the fire and explosion hazards associated with over-the-road transportation of flammable and combustible liquids in tank vehicles and in portable tanks and containers. Responsible for NFPA 385, Standard for Tank Vehicles for Flammable and Combustible Liquids.

COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP BALANCE

Principals: 11 M: 2 (18%)* U: 1 (9%)** Voting Alternates: 0 I/M: 1 (9%)*** L/C: 0 Alternates: 0 R/T: 0 E: 3 (27%) Non-Voting: 0 I: 1 (9%) SE: 3 (27%) Emeritus: 0 Task Group: 0 Hold List: 0 Balance: OK

*(tank vehicles: 1 fire suppression equipment: 1) **(tank vehicle owner/operators: 0 fleet operator: 1) ***(safe access & confined space systems: 1)

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2016 FALL REVISION CYCLE *Public Input Dates may vary according to standards and schedules for Revision Cycles may change.  Please check the NFPA Website for the most up‐to‐date information on Public Input Closing Dates and schedules at 

www.nfpa.org/document # (i.e. www.nfpa.org/101) and click on the Next Edition tab. 

Process Stage 

 

Process Step  

Dates for TC 

Dates forTC with 

CC   Public Input Closing Date*  1/5/15  1/5/15 

  Final Date for TC First Draft Meeting  6/15/15  3/16/15 

Public Input  Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot  8/3/15  4/27/15 

Stage  Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot  8/24/15  5/18/15 

(First Draft)  Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc  8/31/15  5/25/15 

  Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting    6/1/15 

  Final date for CC First Draft Meeting    7/13/15 

  Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot    8/3/15 

  Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot    8/24/15 

  Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc    8/31/15 

  Post First Draft Report for Public Comment  9/7/15  9/7/15 

 

  Public Comment closing date   11/16/15  11/16/15 

  Final Date to Publish Notice of Consent Standards (Standards that received no Comments) 

11/30/15  11/30/15 

  Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (Standards that received no Comments) 

12/14/15  12/14/15 

  Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting  5/2/16  1/25/16 

Comment  Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot  6/13/16  3/7/16 

Stage    Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft ballot  7/5/16  3/28/16 

(Second  Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc  7/11/16  4/4/16 

Draft)  Posting of Second Draft for CC Meeting    4/11/16 

  Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting    5/23/16 

  Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot    6/13/16 

  Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot    7/5/16 

  Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc    7/11/16 

  Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review  7/18/16  7/18/16 

 

Tech Session  Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date  8/22/16  8/22/16 

Preparation  Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent Standards 

10/17/16  10/17/16 

(& Issuance)  Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards   11/1/16  11/1/16 

  SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards   11/11/16  11/11/16 

 

Tech Session  Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs  6/4‐7/17  6/4‐7/17 

 

Appeals and  Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs  6/27/17  6/27/17 

Issuance  SC  Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs  8/10/17  8/10/17 

 

Approved___  October 30, 2012                                                     Revised________________________ 

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PUMPING TANKER TO TANKER. Product recovery. Some points to remember.

Establish an exclusive zone. Consider your options on the method of product recovery. Ensure that the Fire Brigade is “at the ready” with foam available before the operation

begins. A foam cover may be required. Check that the Police have an Outer perimeter set and manned.

Remember that an air pump is the preferred option. If using a compression-ignition engine type pump, or a tanker pump, observe separation distances.

A minimum of 8 meters for unloading and 15 meters for loading. Position fire extinguishers. Switch off all non-essential electrical equipment. CB’s, radios, air conditioners, phone

etc. Bund the damaged tanker. Sand, soil absorbent booms. Protect drains. If you are using a tanker as a pumping unit remember to have a receiving tanker.

TANKER 1 TO TANKER 2 TO TANKER 3. A Tanker must not load itself. Ensure that all units are electrically bonded and grounded (including the pump). Check that any compressor / pump used is up-wind and outside the 15 meter zone. Double check ullages.. Record this information and update during the transfer. ASK THE SIMPLE QUESTION. CAN THE COMPARTMENT ON THE RECEIVING TANKER

HOLD THE QUANTITY TO BE PUMPED. Modern tankers have compartments of 12,000 liter capacity.

DO YOUR SUMS THEN DOUBLE CHECK. Remember Splash Filling is prohibited. Ensure you have enough people to control the valves--minimum of 3 people. Connection must be a “TIGHT FIT’ connection. (Wire all camlock hose fittings) The faster the flow rate the greater the chances of generating static. Take Care! Switch loading procedures must be observed. Check what product the receiving tanker

last held. This is important. Remember, observe separation distances. Ensure all present clearly understand the pumping procedures. Double check. OH&S must be taken into consideration. Eye protection, gloves, full length clothing

should be worn. Check if a first aid kit is readily available. Dip all compartments and record the dips. Complete Dangerous Goods Shipping

Document for received product if required. Check that the emergency information is correct.

Make sure all hoses are drained and that the site is left clean. Recovering petroleum products out of a damaged and or disabled road tanker can be

hazardous. FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES.

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