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Page 1: The Fall Messier Marathon Guide Ed Ting, NHAS, CMP Oct 17 th 2008

The Fall Messier Marathon The Fall Messier Marathon GuideGuide

Ed Ting, NHAS, CMP Oct 17th 2008

Page 2: The Fall Messier Marathon Guide Ed Ting, NHAS, CMP Oct 17 th 2008

Messier MarathonMessier Marathon

An informal competition to locate the most Messier objects by a single observer during a dusk-to-dawn Marathon.

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How Many Can You Expect How Many Can You Expect To See?To See?

March: 108-110June: 90-95 October: 100-102

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From Southern NHFrom Southern NH

Daylight lasts approx 11 hours and 30 minutes

Everything is “shifted” by 6 hours compared to a conventional March MM

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What Doesn’t ChangeWhat Doesn’t Change

You still have to stay up all night longThe average time to find each object goes

up – about 7 minutes, 25 seconds per object

The busiest times are the beginning and the end, with a lull in the middle

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Your New Problem Objects Your New Problem Objects Are…Are…

M4 and M80 are right on the western horizon

M104, M68, and M83 are lost in the morning sun

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M3M3

M3 is also a problem (18 deg above horizon at 6 PM)

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What Does ChangeWhat Does Change

M30, M72, and M73 are no longer difficultScorpio is now the early problemMarch – The Sun is in CapricornOctober – The Sun is in Virgo

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One Big ChangeOne Big Change

The Virgo Cluster must be tackled while the sun is rising

Thus, the VC is now a Bonus Object M64, M53, M61, etc become problems also

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For Experienced ObserversFor Experienced Observers

You have to readjust your thinkingBeginners have the upper hand here!

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Your New GoalYour New Goal

91 Objects5 Objects are not visibleThe Virgo Cluster galaxies (14 objects)

become “Bonus Objects.”

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The Sky at 6:00 PMThe Sky at 6:00 PM

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The First 2 HoursThe First 2 Hours

Goal – Get 20 Objects (22% of total)M62, M19, M6, M7, M5, M97, M108,

M109, M81, M82, M101, M102 (NGC 5866), M51, M3, M53, M63, M94, M107, M12, M10

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The Sky at 10 PMThe Sky at 10 PM

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9 –11 PM Sagittarius 9 –11 PM Sagittarius Sagittarius, Scutum, OphiucusM10, M23, M24, M25, M69, M70, M54,

M9, M14, M8, M20, M21, M28, M22, M55, M16, M17, M11, M26

Goal: Get 19 Objects (20%, 42% of total) Lots of showpiece objects

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Sagittarius/ Scorpius AreaSagittarius/ Scorpius Area

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The Sky at MidnightThe Sky at Midnight

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Midnight to 2 AMMidnight to 2 AM

Goal: Get 22 objects (25%, 67% total)M40, M106, M75, M13, M92, M57, M56,

M27, M71, M2, M72, M73, M30, M29, M39, M15, M74, M77, M31, M32, M110, M33

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The Sky at 4 AMThe Sky at 4 AM

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4 AM – Winter Objects4 AM – Winter Objects

Goal: Get 31 objects (33%, 100%)M103, M52, M34, M76, M79, M1, M45,

M37, M36, M38, M50, M47, M46, M93, M41, M35, M41, M42, M43, M78, M48, M44, M67, M105, M96, M95, M65, M66, M61, M64, M85

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The Virgo ClusterThe Virgo Cluster

The bad news – You have to find 14 dim objects (15% of the total MM)

The VC is rising in the east, along with the sun!

These are all Bonus Objects

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The Virgo ClusterThe Virgo Cluster

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Work From Left To RightWork From Left To Right

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From Skymap From Skymap

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You’re Done!You’re Done!

How did you do? Don’t forget to report your results to the club for

the newsletter. If you followed the “Goals” you should have 91

objects (82%)

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Tips & Tricks (p. 1 of 2)Tips & Tricks (p. 1 of 2)

Use a scope with a short focal lengthConsider using an alt-az scopeBring a pair of binocularsHave a method for dealing with dewEat light snacks throughout the eveningOnce in a particular area, stay there until

you get all the objects there

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Tips and Tricks (p. 2 of 2)Tips and Tricks (p. 2 of 2)

Work West to East, South to NorthWork from a listBring a chairDon’t forget to have fun!

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Books For Further ReadingBooks For Further Reading

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Good Luck!Good Luck!