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The ITER Data System Challenges presented by
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, Switzerland
with
Izuru Yonekawa, JAEA-Naka, Japan
John How, CEA-Cadarache, France / ITER-IT
So Maruyama, ITER-IT, Germany
ITER update
Where are ITER’s main data challenges ?
Lead up to today’s round-table discussion
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 2
Where will ITER be sited ?
After long negotiations, a European site was agreed at the end of June 2005
Cadarache (CEA), Bouches du Rhône, France
Commissioning in or after 2016!
Now we have structural discussions
Director general
Staffing structure
Financing
etc etc
ITER parties are still EU+CH, JA, China, Korea, Russian Federation, USA
Long lead item procurement starts as soon as possible
At least 7 year construction
At least 1 year integrated commissioning
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 3
Reminder of what ITER looks like - physically
Fusion Power = 500MW
Fusion Power/Auxiliary Heating Power
= Q>10
Neutron wall loading = 0.57 MW/m2
Plasma major radius = 6.2 m
Plasma minor radius = 2.0 m
Plasma Current = 15 Megamp
Toroidal Field = 5.3T
Plasma Volume = 837 m3
Heating power = 73 MW
Pulse lengths = 300 - 5000 sec
PF supra coils = 925+6*130-390 tons
TF supra coils = 18*312 tons
Vessel = 9*575 tons
Total in hall = 23,000 tons
28m
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 4
ITER’s data rates and volumes - OK
Conclusion in 2003 Rate is probably not a problem with existing technology Volume is not a problem
But it will be hard work of course, even if we do have solutions
… but…. we can not obviously USE the data we are archiving This will be a challenge, mentioned by Martin Greenwald Knowledge or model-based filters will have to be developed
That was the feeling 2 years ago
Take the potential source rate 100 GB/s peak Take 500’000 to 1’000’000 hardware channels, 0.1 – 108 Hz Take 1PB per year
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 5
So what are we thinking about for CODAC ?
ITER COntrol Data Acquisition and Communication architecture will consider
Political “in kind” procurement
Procurement interface definitions
Procurement standards definitions
General life-cycle issues of procured systems, associated perenity issues
ITER data flow performance : data rates and volumes - technical
Combining acquisition and control into “data flow” - tokamak specific
Networking inside and outside an ITER sanitised area - topic this week
Remote participation and remote operation - covered by Martin Greenwald
Remote maintenance of procured systems
Discharge design and modifications - tokamak specific
Discharge monitoring and control - tokamak specific
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 6
Procurement, integration and operation
Most of procurement of “External” systems will be “political” in-kind
Procurement of the “internal” systems (IT infrastructure) is central
Parties (e.g. EU, USA) will have to deliver full systems with an agreed value
They will procure through their own administration
Procurement may involve research institutions
Manufacturing may involve local/foreign industry
Industry may outsource some of the components
Then it will be integrated under high visibility and operated as fast as possible
How do we optimise this integration ?
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 7
Major issues
Can we aim at plug-and-play of all “external systems” ?
Standards for hardware
Standards for software
Standards for data exchange
Security
Respect for these standards is implicit, but is it guaranteed ?
Google “plug and play” is interesting, the top hit is…(from Microsoft)This update resolves a newly-discovered, privately-reported vulnerability.
A remote code execution vulnerability exists in Plug and Play (PnP) that could ...
Are we being naïve - if so, we should stop now ! Are we being visionary - if so, we should be brave !
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 8
What do we mean by a system ?
SystemLocal control
Local store
ITER Specs
Water/air/power/hydraulics
Network 1
Network 2
Interlock
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 9
Hardware standards
Can we impose hardware standards on what is inside a procured system ?
Is it better to have a supplier work with what he knows best ?
Is it better to have common spares ?
Who is responsible for maintaining the hardware after 10-20 years ?
Who will actually end up keeping old equipment going ?
Remember we are talking of large planetary differences in work practice and
technology
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 10
Software standards
Can we impose software standards on what is inside a procured system ?
Is it better to have a supplier work with what he knows best ?
Is it better to have common products ?
Is it necessary to have common methodology ?
Who is responsible for maintaining the software after 10-20 years ?
Who is responsible for software updates (security?) for 20 years ?
Who will actually end up keeping old software going ?
Remember we are talking of large planetary differences in work practice and
technology
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 11
Data exchange standards
Can we impose data exchange standards on a procured system ?
Is it better to have a supplier work with what he knows best ?
The other software issues are all here again
Remember we are talking of large planetary differences in work practice and
technology
Can we use internationally recognised (i.e. not fusion-specific) norms ?
Do we have to copy others and make an ITER-specific generic framework ?
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 12
Remote integrators for procurement
Can ITER procure at the level of wiring ? – ITER will never enough staff
Can ITER procure at the level of subsystem ? - homogeneity, staff
Can ITER procure at the level of full “identical” systems? - norms
ITER-qualified/trained local integrators could be a good solution – multi-national
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 13
Service Oriented Architecture
Could ITER go this way ?
External External
Internal Internal
External External
RTDB1 RTDB2
Internal
state state state
Service communication
This model is natural when
designing an integrated plant,
when integration is not just
the last act It is
extendable
not necessarily scalable
has hidden middleware
has a hidden framework
has a general API
Each system can interface to
a given API e.g. VSYSTEM,
PVSS, EPICS ??
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 14
Integration of complex equipment
“Slow controls” will generate a a lot of data, but ITER will have slower time-
scales than present tokamaks. We assume 500’000 to 1’000’000 channels
This is data handling rather than technical - we have to use and understand
this data Requires more effort on Finite State Machine system description than on
hardware/software techniques Corresponds again to a structured data view of the world Needs a universal description of the FSM - see ongoing work elsewhere
Generating the working control software will still require lots of inventiveness,
but most of all will require a complete data-driven description of the systems
Can we combine plug and play devices into a full inter-operating system?
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 15
Security
We wish remote users to be able to service their equipment This is inevitable
However, this opens the door into the machine control from outside
We can impose a gateway, content sensitive, to relay instructions coming in,
with strict control (like PVSSII), but will the hackers win?
Can we guarantee that the outside world cannot penetrate a content-sensitive
gateway in one direction ? - in 8 years time….
The other security issues are conventional - i.e. extremely difficult
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 16
Vision of ITER integration in a SOA
SOA are in and out of favour, but were “sold” for Enterprise Application
Integration in heterogeneous environments with dominant legacy problems.
Is it the right model for integrating complex physics plant ?
What Web Services appear to offer is
Strong control over the communication method between supplier and ITER
Strong content over the data exchange content
Internationally established norms, internationalisation
Security, traceability
Management transactions for configuration, commands, documentation,
description, essential for plug-and-play
Inadequate performance for the sustained high rate data flow - probably
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 17
Summary
ITER will presents a tremendous scientific and technological challenge for the
optimal handling of all the data of the project
Procurement will bring interesting international challenges
Architecture must consider the procurement and integration problems
“Strong control” does not create a partnership, the SOA is an enabling
technology, not a guarantee
How do we minimise the risks of less than total success ? On time On cost Required performance
Jo Lister, CRPP-EPFL, ITER Data Challenges, ICALEPCS 2005, Geneva, October 2005 18
Round Table
We are opening the round table discussion on procurement for large
international research projects
We hope that you will stay and share your advice and experience