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TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham, p. 150) Take-Aways & Tomorrow

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Page 1: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

TODAY’S CLASS

Announcements Where We Are & What We’re

Doing Skills: Reading Cases

Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent

Burnham, p. 150) Take-Aways & Tomorrow

Page 2: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

ANNOUNCEMENTS

Reschedule Mon, Nov 10 Class Th, Nov. 13, 2:30 p.m.

Page 3: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

FEEDBACK ON COURSE

Mid-quarter feedback forms Still welcome!

DM Question about questions Power v. process

Mutually exclusive or Overlapping

Page 4: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

CLARIFICATIONDue Process

Federal government 5th Amendment

State governments 14th Amendment

Burger King Federal court PJ

FR 4(k)(1)(A) Piggybacks on Florida long-arm statute PJ under FL statute consistent with 14th

Amendment?

Page 5: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

CONCEPTUAL FRAMEWORK Choosing a Trial Court

Choosing aTrial Court

(Federal or State Court)

Subject MatterJurisdiction

Personal Jurisdiction

VenueVenue Transfer

Forum non conveniens+ +

Page 6: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

International Shoe “Boxes”

ContactsSystematic Isolated

& continuous

Jurisdiction | ? ||

_____________ |______________|||

? | No jurisdiction||

Claim Related

Unrelated

Page 7: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

SKILLS: READING CASES

Wash. Equip. Mfg. v. Concrete Placing Co., p. 148

General jurisdiction Pl’s argument? Why?

Page 8: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

SKILLS: READING CASES

Wash. Equip. Mfg. v. Concrete Placing Co., p. 148

General jurisdiction Court’s view? Why?

Page 9: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

SKILLS: READING CASESDetails

Wash. Equip. Mfg. v. Concrete Placing Co., p. 148

“dismissal with prejudice” !!!

Page 10: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

Power

Personal (Territorial) Jurisdiction

Process

Presence?Consent?Domicile?

Minimum Contacts+

SubstantialJustice

&Fair Play

Page 11: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

SKILLS: ARGUING FROM PRECEDENT

Burnham v. Superior Ct., p. 150 Rule choice

What gap or ambiguity is addressed in Burnham?

Page 12: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

SKILLS: ARGUING FROM PRECEDENT

Burnham v. Superior Ct., p. 150 Rule choice

What gap or ambiguity is addressed in Burnham?

Does “presence” still establish jurisdiction?

Must all assertions of pj satisfy minimum contacts?

Page 13: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

SKILLS: READING CASESRule Choice Options

What rule choice options are suggested by the Justices in Burnham?

Page 14: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

SKILLS: READING CASESRule Choice

The S.Ct.’s choice? How do you know?

Page 15: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

SKILLS: READING CASESAssessing Precedential Value

Precedential value of Burnham? Reorganize the conceptual

framework?

Page 16: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

SKILLS: ARGUING FROM PRECEDENT

Interpreting the constitution Original intent Precedent

Agree with plurality’s approach? Why?

Page 17: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

SKILLS: ARGUING FROM PRECEDENT

Hypothetical President of Concrete Placing

liable as individual on guarantee of debt

attends Apple Cup served with process in Pullman

WA court personal jurisdiction?

Page 18: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

TAKEAWAYSGeneral Jurisdiction

Conceptual Frameworks Personal Jurisdiction

Where does Burnham leave us?

Skills: Arguing From Precedent Rule Choice Counting Votes & Assessing Precedential Value

Page 19: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

TAKEAWAYSGeneral Jurisdiction

General jurisdiction What is it?

Claims not related to def’s contacts w/ state What contacts permit gen’l jurisdiction?

Individuals Presence, domicile, ???

Corporations Incorporation, prinicipal place of business, ???

Page 20: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

TOMORROW: IN CLASS

Topic: PJ Based on Consent Before Class

Read Hypothetical on Web Types of Consent clauses Consent on the Internet Hypo

Page 21: TODAY’S CLASS Announcements Where We Are & What We’re Doing Skills: Reading Cases Washington Equip. Mfg. p. 145 Skills: Arguing From Precedent Burnham,

TOMORROW: IN CLASS

Topic: Consent In class

Types of Consent clauses Skills: Arguing From Precedent

Hypothetical: Consent on the Internet