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SiS.net2 NETWORK MEETING and TRAINING 2

June 8-10, 2015 Tallinn, ESTONIA

Tools for Responsible Research and Innovation

Ignasi López Verdeguer, La Caixa Foundation

[email protected]

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Society Innovation

Research

La Caixa Foundation Science program: Research, innovation and society

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Responsible Research and innovation. Why?

Index

RRI, why and how? RRI Tools Open questions

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“We need ambition at a policy level to support the best science for the world and not just the best

science in the world”

Morten Østergaard “Science in Dialogue Conference”.

Opening session. Denmark

Why Responsible research and innovation (RRI)?

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6/15/2015 healthy ageing

climate change

clean energy

Why RRI? Grand Challenges

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Science and technology deliver innovations that

improve the quality of live and help us to deal with the grand

challenges

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robocare Organismos genéticamente modificados

big data intensive farming

drones

But some innovations fail, may have unexpected (negative)

consequences or are controversial

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The biggest part of the world

farmaceutical research goes to

diseases of the rich world

The Guardian. Special Report. Aids.

...not all voices are equally heard...

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Special Eurobarometer 401. Responsible Research and Innovation (RRI), Science and Technology

What is the level of involvement citizens should have when it comes to decisions made about science and technology? Answer: Public dialogue is required (Req: 55% - Not Req: 37%)

77% of Europeans believe that science and technology have a positive impact 62% agree that science makes our way of life change too fast

55% think that public dialogue is recquired!

... Society wants to participate in the decisions of science

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| ... From technology acceptance to

technology acceptability

SMART METERS IN THE NETHERLANDS

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Scientific Misbehavior in Economics. LSE Impact of Social Sciences Blog

...R&I systems could be improved

Preassure for publishing

Reproducibility

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| Political impulse

• Endorsed by private research foundations. http://www.efc.be/news_events/Pages/news_EFC-Research-Forum-Statement-on-Responsible-Research-and-Innovation.aspx

• A cross cutting issue in Horizon 2020

• RRI Rome Declaration endorsed by the Council of Competitiveness http://ec.europa.eu/research/swafs/pdf/rome_declaration_RRI_final_21_November.pdf

• Endorsed by research councils as the EPSRC and the NWO

Presenter
Presentation Notes
DAYS of HOLIDAYS – TIME TO THINK WHAT RRI IS ABOUT – REMEMBERED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING DURING LAST MONTHS, WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU
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What is Responsible research and innovation (RRI)? RRI Tools

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| RRI Tools, the “problem”

Engagement Science

Education Ethics Gender Equality

Open Access

Presenter
Presentation Notes
Unclear and new conceptual framework. Some Comission putting together different policy agendas of very different kinds, Some of them with normative effects in H2020 as Gender equality and Open access Covering all Europe, systems of R&I very different. In Spain an amazing jump has been done in research during the last decade but not in innovation Covering all societal actors. Some would argue that it would be impossible to cover all that conceptual areas, regions and targets
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COORDINATOR

DEPUTY COORDINATOR

HUBS COORDINATOR

WP1 LEADER

WP2 LEADER

WP4 LEADER

WP5 LEADER

WP6 LEADER

NETWORKS

www.rri-tools.eu

Budget: 6,9 Milion €. Funded by the EC under the 7th FM Program

The proposal: RRI Tools

Presenter
Presentation Notes
Focus on : 1.- Good academic partners (we need to develop an assessment tool, we need to be close to research in RRI) ATHENA and UCL BUT NOT COVERING EVERY ASPECT 2.- Strong technological partner for the platform 3.- A clear focus in dissemination and training trhough 5 umbrella organizations and its members.
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• The AB provides strategic guidance and support to the project coordinator and the Management Board to ensure excellence and relevance of the project. Meets on a yearly basis.

• Composed by 12 renowned experts on RRI or RRI key issues:

• Richard Owen (RRI) • Carsten Mann (Governance) • Lars Klüver (Governance, Engagement) • Inés Sánchez de Madariaga (Gender) • Lut Mergaert (Gender) • Claudia Neubauer (Engagement) • Justin Dillon (Education) • Roser Pintó (Education) • Pere Puigdomenech (Ethics) • Prof. Jeroen van den Hoven (Ethics) • Maria Cassella (Open Access) • David Lynn / David Carr (Open Access)

The proposal: RRI Tools

Presenter
Presentation Notes
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University College London

Science Gallery

Vetenskap & Allmänhet

AHHAA Science Centre Foundat

Experimentarium

Polish Science Foundation

Science Animation

IrsiCaixa

Ciencia Viva

Fendazione Cariplo

Ellinogermaniki Agegi

RUSE Chamber of Commerce and Industry

Centre fot the Premotien of Science

Techmania Science Centre

Bonn Science Shop

Athena Institute

King Baudeuin Foundation

Zentrum for Social Innovation MOBILIS

INNOVATIVE TOOLS

TRANSFORMATIVE TRAINNING

WIDE DISSEMINATIO

N

RRI Hubs

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| Where are we

WP1 - An RRI working definition (seen but

work in progress) - A set of quality criteria for good

practice standards - A catalogue of RRI promising

practices

WP2 - A wide PanEuropean

consultation on the obstacles and motivations for stakeholders to implement RRI

1 2 THE TOOLKIT

Presenter
Presentation Notes
DAYS of HOLIDAYS – TIME TO THINK WHAT RRI IS ABOUT – REMEMBERED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING DURING LAST MONTHS, WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU
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D1.3 Report on the quality criteria of Good Practice Standards in RRI D1.4 - A catalogue of Good Practice Standards in RRI D2.2 - Report on the analysis of needs and constraints of the stakeholder groups in RRI practices in Europe

D3.2 (forthcoming) The Toolkit. The landing pages of the website.

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How to acomodate EC RRI Framing with academic framing.

Engagement Science

Education

Ethics

Open Access/Open

science

Gender Equality

- Context adapted. European vision. - Builds on ongoing efforts - Some policy agendas normative,

some not.

- More conceptually robust - More “universal” - Developement of framework

recent, not totally developed

(WP1) - RRI working definition

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Ethics

Gender Equality

Governance

Public Engagement

Open Access

Science Education

RRI Key Issues

RRI working definition (WP1)

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Science Education

Ethics

Gender Equality

Governance

Public Engagement

Open Access

PROCESS REQUIREMENTS

Responsible research and innovation is a dynamic, iterative process by which all stakeholders involved in the research and innovation practice (researchers, policy makers, industry, citizens, educators) become mutually responsive to each other and share responsibility regarding the R&I outcomes and processes.

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Science Education

Ethics

Gender Equality

Governance

Public Engagement

Open Access

OUTCOME REQUIREMENTS

LEARNING Outcomes · Engaged publics · Responsible actors · Responsible Institutions

R&I SYSTEM Outcomes · Ethically acceptable · Sustainable · Socially desirable

Solutions to Societal challenges · Health & demographics · Innovative & reflective societal · Food & water · Climate & resources · Energy · Transport · Security

PROCESS REQUIREMENTS

Responsible research and innovation is a dynamic, iterative process by which all stakeholders involved in the research and innovation practice (researchers, policy makers, industry, citizens, educators) become mutually responsive to each other and share the responsibility regarding the R&I outcomes and processes.

Presenter
Presentation Notes
It is important to stress here that the documents produced at this stage (D1.1 and Policy Brief) are focused in the understanding of those ideal processes of RRI and that the PA’s might not have been developed as they are going to be in the Toolkit. The POLICY BRIEF might need to be changed to give PA’s the importance that they deserved.
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"Where relevant describe how sex and/or gender analysis is taken into account in the project 's content"

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engaged publics stakeholder

learning

responsible institutions

ethically acceptable socially desirable

sustainable

grand challenges

OUTCOMES / IMPACTS

Conditions for the research and innovation system

structures for governance structures for public engagement research integrity and research ethics science education science communication

open access policy gender policy diversity policy stigma and discrimination policy

Science Education

Ethics

Gender Equality Governance

Public Engagement

Open Access

PROCESS REQUIREMENTS

POLICY AGENDAS / CONDITIONS

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| What is Responsible Research and innovation

• It is Europe’s bet to overcome grand challenges and to provide new opportunities for research and innovation.

• It is about doing science with and for society in a permanent

dialogue between different stakeholders (researchers, industry, CSO’s...) to align research and innovation towards the needs of society and to become mutually responsive about its outcomes.

• It is about research and innovation processes which are more divers and inclusive, open and transparent, anticipatory reflexive, responsive and adaptative.

• It is a wide umbrella to the agendas of public engagement with science, science education, open access to scientific results, gender equality and ethics in research.

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| Where are we

WP1 - An RRI working definition (seen but

work in progress) - A set of quality criteria for good

practice standards - A catalogue of RRI promising

practices

1

Presenter
Presentation Notes
DAYS of HOLIDAYS – TIME TO THINK WHAT RRI IS ABOUT – REMEMBERED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING DURING LAST MONTHS, WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU
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- Based in literature, the consultation workshops, the promising practices collected by the hubs, feedback from project partners and RRI experts - Basic building blocks for developing a self-evaluating tool (or self-reflection tool) - Outcome: a set of quality criteria and sub criteria specified in the form of questions to enable reflection. Linked to Policy agendas

Self-reflection tool

D1.3 The quality criteria of Good Practice Standards in RRI

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List of quality criteria (D1.3)

1. Diversity and Inclusion

Criteria Specification PA Outc. Indicators/sub-criteria

Questions that invite thinking about indicators and criteria 2ac 3f

Engaging a variety of stakeholder groups

Wide range

Is there a wide range of stakeholders involved, such that there is a diversity of values and a diversity of types of knowledge/expertise (i.e., experiential knowledge, scientific knowledge) represented and/or generated? (Rowe and Frewer, 2000)

2ac

Relevant voices

Is there diversity in the stakeholders engaged such that all relevant voices are heard – silent as well as loud (i.e., stakeholder groups that might not feel immediately empowered to let their view know and stakeholder groups that do)?

2ac

Demographic diversity

Is there diversity within the stakeholder groups involved in terms of gender, ethnicity, class, age and other

2ac

Criteria for each process requirement Subcriteria and questions

to think about

Relation to policy agendas and outcomes

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| What are we going to see today

D1.4 - A catalogue of Good Practice Standards in RRI

• 51 completed surveys from 18 European countries. 31 selected.

• Analysis and extensive description of: geographical impact, policy

agenda addressed, stakeholders involved, grand challenge and research theme, process requirement fulfilled.

0 5 10 15

Several or all

6. Europe in a changing world - inclusive,…

5. Climate action, environment, resource efficiency…

1. Health, demographic change and wellbeing

2. Food security, sustainable agriculture and…

3. Secure, clean and efficient energy

7. Secure societies - protecting freedom and…

4. Smart, green and integrated transport

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Co-management plan of “sonso” WWF Conservation Award 2013

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Remarkable patterns

1. Practices do not (have to) incorporate all RRI processes + outcomes

2. Most projects further away from R&I process. Selection bias or fact?

3. Many RRI projects receive funding for a limited time (EC); difficult to

maintain the project or the product afterwards (continuity, commitment)

4. There is more awareness/ consultation than participation

5. Inclusive deliberation in place, but what about policy impact and change?

6. It's either Responsible Research or Responsible Innovation

Presenter
Presentation Notes
1. Zie fisheries 2. Vaak zijn kleinere projecten geleid door een zeer gecommiteerd en inspirerend persoon (SCREEN, FISHERIES) 5. Nu gericht op onderwijzen/trainen van mensen om onderdeel te kunnen zijn van RRI (competenties); fase? wanneer deze stap klaar en op naar volgende? A small company like HAO2 may not be entirely RRI in terms of the process requirements, but ís sustainable, as it can finance itself.
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D2.2 - Report on the analysis of needs and constraints of the stakeholder groups in RRI practices in Europe (-SiS.net comment- to be developed by M. Smallman –UCL- in next session)

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D3.2 (forthcoming) The Toolkit.

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Self-reflection tool Search engine

Toolkit structure

STK landing pages PA landing pages

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| Toolkit structure

STK landing pages

PA landing pages

Consortium experts + Advisory board + coordination

STK “rationales”

Policy Agenda Perspectives

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| Toolkit structure

Very brief intro text with links to main documents

Short video specially developed for the target

A number of inspiring practices

Main tools

To know more... Go to the toolkit!

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| The Toolkit.

1) 1rst phase of tools.

- Many useful resources have been developed on the different Policy agendas (and on RRI) in FP6, FP7 that are useful to apply RRI ... So first: a Collection of existing resources compiled by the project by

type of resource / Policy agenda tackled / stakeholder involved / grand challenge and/or research theme / others

And

- The 36 inspiring practices collected and thoroughly described in relation to RRI by the project

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| The Toolkit.

tools

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Self-assessment tools

Tools to plan & implement

Training & awareness tools

Dissemination & advocacy tools

Dedicated portals

Catalogues of tools

Presenter
Presentation Notes
Tons of resources out there hard to find&select RRI Tools tries to facilitate your work We are collecting resources that help you Overcome gender bias in data samples you are gathering Avoid data privacy issues Gain funding through H2020 or any other programme building a solid proposal Increase the visibility of your project, institution or resources created by you
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I need a tool for assessment of RRI

Sustsanability: Users will be able to upload new resources. Moderation?

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Practitioners / experts

Search engine

Toolkit structure I need a tool for

training CSOs staff on Open Science in

Biotechnology

I need a guide to implement RRI in

my research proposal

My university needs a Gender

equality plan and Code for research

integrity

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| The Toolkit.

2nd phase of tools.

- Tools developed by WP3 after a gap analysis of the Toolkit V.0, the needs of stakeholders and the ongoing efforts of new H2020 projects (as guidelines for researchers/research centres to implement RRI in their proposals...)

and

- Tools developed by WP4, WP5 and WP6:

Advocacy

Training

Dissemination tools.

and Self-assessment tool

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Open questions

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From an academic to a practical definition

...Maybe need some more ‘homely’ slogans to be understandable outside the academic community, e.g. ‘Let the people speak – you may be surprised by what they have to say!’

Basic and applied research RRI only for Problem oriented research and solution to grand challenges?

... there might be a need to emphasise that there is still a crucially important space for blue-skies, discover oriented research... ...others will have significant issues with impact driven science or problem oriented research, arguing that curiosity driven science that adds to our knowledge about the world is hugely important.

Open questions

RRI Tools Advisory board members comments

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RRI EC Framing vs academic framing

Political / institutional impulse

...One other issue is that the progression and incentivisation structures in places like Universities do not make societal relevance a key priority....

But the idea is that the EC WILL prescribe RRI as a top down policy?

This is the EC’s framing, but is not shared across the academic or stakeholder communities Some of these are tools (e.g. Public Engagement, some are normative principles (e.g. promoting gender equality)

Open questions

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RRI EC Framing vs academic framing

Political / institutional impulse

...One other issue is that the progression and incentivisation structures in places like Universities do not make societal relevance a key priority....

But the idea is that the EC WILL prescribe RRI as a top down policy?

This is the EC’s framing, but is not shared across the academic or stakeholder communities Some of these are tools (e.g. Public Engagement, some are normative principles (e.g. promoting gender equality)

Open questions

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| Thank you!

Ignasi López Verdeguer Belen Perat / Eva Zuazua Guillermo Santamaría Daniel García Paola Isseta And: IrsiCaixa (Rosina Malagrida, Josep Carreras) and

“...the best science for the world and not just the best science in the world”