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Top 20 Legal IT Innovators 2016Profiling the leaders of unprecedented change in the legal industry
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Top 20 Legal IT Innovators 2016
4 Richard Susskind
IT adviser, Lord Chief Justice of Eng & Wales
5 Dana Denis-Smith
Obelisksupport.com
6 Joe Andrew
Dentons
8 David Kerr
Bird & Bird
10 Craig Courter
Baker & McKenzie
12 Andrew Arruda
ROSS Intelligence
14 Ranajoy Basu
Reed Smith
16 Wim Dejonghe
Allen & Overy
18 Stuart Whittle
Weightmans
20 Mike Rebeiro
Norton Rose Fulbright
22 David Morley
Allen & Overy
24 Julia Salasky
CrowdJustice
26 Simon Harper
Lawyers On Demand
28 Louise Pentland
PayPal
30 Justin Stock
Cooley (London)
32 Robert Zahler
Pillsbury
34 Professor David Wilkins
Harvard Law School
38 Wang Junfeng
King & Wood Mallesons (China)
40 Pádraig Ó Ríordáin
Arthur Cox
42 Patrice Cappello
SAP
Contents
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Impetus to innovate
The legal industry is undergoing unprecedented change. Driven by a globalised economy and fast-changing customer demands, it is poised for a digital transformation that will redefine professional services in the years to come. Industry experts, thought leaders and innovators will be the driving forces in shaping how the future of this industry will look. To introduce the annual Top 20 Legal IT Innovators report, highlighting the leaders that are driving this change, Legal Week consulted Fulcrum Global Technologies chief, Ahmed Shaaban, a recognised thought leader and innovator in commercial enterprise and cloud solutions serving the mainstream of Fortune 500 companies and global professional services firms.
Artificial Intelligence , augmented reality, cyber security, machine
learning, legal process outsourcing, in-memory computing,
the cloud and the Big Four law firm. The list goes
on. What will stick? What will provide value?
What is yet to be explored? Who will
prosper and who will fall?
Everything as it stands today for
law firms is poised to change in the
next three to five years – and that
is a good thing. Doing things ‘the
way they have always been done’
should not dictate how firms are
run today and in the future. In
the next decade, if they fail to
keep pace with technology, 40%
of the S&P 500 will disappear.1
The solution lies within
their business models and their
receptiveness to manage not only
the challenges to come, but also the
challenges that have arrived: a real-
time, mobile, automated, intelligent, data-
driven world, where clients mandate flexibility,
responsiveness and consistency.
As firms look to the future and ask themselves how they will
operate in the business of law instead of the legal business, there
will be opportunities to take advantage of cross-industry best
1 ‘A Decade to Mass Extinction Event in S&P 500’ – CNBC, 4 June 2014: www.cnbc.com/2014/06/04/15-years-to-extinction-sp-500-companies.html
practices and emerging technologies that have not yet been
applied in legal.
Additional opportunities will exist to
drive down cost by utilising sourcing and
procurement methods, and through
exploring partnerships that will
open doors leading to new business
opportunities and new markets.
Emerging technologies and their
application have transformed the
legal industry more rapidly than
most people anticipated they
would. Today’s technology helps
firms run better, faster, smoother
and smarter than ever before.
However, in the wake of current
digital evolution, many law firms
and legal departments find themselves
technologically behind, afraid to adopt
developing technologies and disruptions that
could provide value in unimagined ways. This
leaves firms unable to support their current and, more
alarmingly, future growth requirements and strategies.
Technology is a catalyst in all of this but it takes more than
technology to make this change a reality. The innovators who
follow are challenging the norm, embracing disruption and
looking to the future of how they want to see their industry five,
10 and even 20 years from now.
Introduction by Ahmed Shaaban, chairperson, Top 20 Legal IT Innovators 2016
In the next decade, if they fail to keep pace with technology, 40%
of the S&P 500 will disappear
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Can computers solve legal problems?
Richard Susskind is a pivotal figure in legal
technology. An acclaimed strategist and
thinker, a distinguished academic (he holds
professorships at Oxford and UCL among
others), and author of nine influential
books, Susskind has been an IT
adviser to the Lord Chief Justice
of England & Wales for nearly 20
years. In 2000, he received an
OBE for his services to IT in the
law and to the Administration
of Justice, and since 2011, he has
been president of the Society for
Computers and Law.
“I’ve really tried to influence
thinking across the legal profession,”
he says. “I like to think I have influenced
a generation of lawyers in their thinking
about the profound impact of technology on
law.” After writing his Oxford doctorate on law
and AI in the mid-1980s, he developed with Phillip
Capper (now a White & Case partner), the world’s first commercially
available AI system in law (The Latent Damage System) in 1988.
Susskind’s global reach is significant: his work has been
translated into 12 languages and he has lectured in more than
40 countries. At a practical level, his influence has been equally
widespread as an adviser to several of the world’s leading law firms
on issues relating to future strategy and their use of technology. He
describes the relationships with these firms, such as Allen & Overy,
as “longstanding, not occasional projects”.
More than anything Susskind sees himself as a catalyst.
“Fundamentally, my interest is: can computers solve legal
problems?” he explains. “That’s partly a technical question and
partly a philosophical question.” But his ideas and his thinking are
entirely pragmatic.
“Law firms can think they are innovative because they are
automating in an innovative way because no one has ever automated
in that way before,” he says. “But my more technical meaning of
innovation is really bringing about change in the underlying
process. As in so many sectors, lawyers are inclined to dress up
their automation as innovation. They want to suggest that the use of
technology to streamline the old ways of working is perhaps more
adventurous than it really is.”
As a legal disruptor, Susskind questions the
way in which law firms see themselves as
businesses and how they offer services to
clients.
“I want to challenge lawyers to
understand the potential technology
and use it,” he says, “not simply to
preserve 20th century legal practice,
but to redefine the way the legal
professionals can help their clients.
By legal professionals, I don’t just
mean traditional lawyers, I mean
people who are legal technologists
and legal process analysts and legal
knowledge engineers. My running
theme is for the 2020s: it’s not going to
be a decade of unemployment but it will
be a decade of redeployment; we’ve got to
learn to work differently.”
Challenging the status quo – the established
ways of thinking and doing things – makes some
lawyers feel uncomfortable, particularly when part of what he
advocates is “taking the cost out of legal service”. Looking ahead,
Susskind believes the “more for less” challenge will be critical:
“It’s going to define and underpin the way that we evolve our legal
services. Technology is one of the key ways of allowing us to do the
same or a better job than in the past but for a lower cost – that’s
the key.”
Richard Susskind , IT adviser to the Lord Chief Justice of England & Wales
My running theme is for the 2020s: it’s not going to be a decade of unemployment
but it will be a decade of redeployment; we’ve got to learn to work differently
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A new solution to legal outsourcing
Dana Denis-Smith describes herself
as an entrepreneur, ex-lawyer
(Linklaters) and journalist. She
is also the founder and CEO
of obelisksupport.com,
which “keeps City lawyers,
especially mothers,
working flexibly around
their family or other
personal commitments
and provides clients
with an affordable and
quality legal support
solution”. Dana and
her Obelisk team
are multiple award
winners.
From a standing start
in 2010, more than 850
lawyers are now registered
with Obelisk – 90% of them
women, mostly in their thirties
– alongside “mostly older” men. Of
these, nearly half have a ‘green light’
at any one time – like a taxi for hire, they
are immediately available for clients.
“I was looking for a new solution to legal outsourcing,
which seemed to be all the rage at the time,” explains Denis-
Smith. “What I could see was a huge number of talented women
leaving law firms. Leadership and technical ability don’t have
anything to do with one another but in law firms they merge as
one and the same.”
She argues that the long hours culture can be problematic
for people with young families: “In that environment, you’re
measured not for your strengths but for your weaknesses: how
many hours you’ve been in the office rather than what you have
achieved – a willingness to compromise everything for work.”
Obelisk was conceived with the idea that “outsourcing doesn’t
need to go abroad, it can be going into people’s homes – a return
to the cottage industry”. She had four lawyers initially given to
her by the Law Society “because I begged for people that had been
begging them for work”. She then got pregnant, “which wasn’t in
the plan, so in the first year not much happened”.
But fairly soon, Obelisk had 120 lawyers on its
books. They came via word of mouth and by
Denis-Smith spending “a campaigning
year going up and down the country,
telling people that things needed
to change”. She explains: “It
is our role to change, maybe
not law firms, but the way
the market operates. This
is how I see myself: as an
agent of change.”
To be considered, would-
be Obelisk lawyers are
screened for competence
and quality. Women who
sign up are mostly former
senior associates from top
30 UK law firms, with a
quarter being ex-magic circle.
They work for an average of
22 hours a week. “It’s not just
about supplying people who want
a lifestyle, it’s more about people who
can’t escape their lifestyle: when you have
a child you can’t escape the responsibility.”
Goldman Sachs was one of the first Obelisk clients
and still is. Other big names (BT, ING, Siemens) followed
and they have a high retention rate. The Obelisk team comprises 12
people managing their lawyers’ services – 80% of them in the UK,
with the rest spread as far as Dubai and Chile.
“We work with clients that have international operations from
a centralised location, rather than creating offices locally,” she
says, anticipating growth to several thousand lawyers: “It’s purely
economics: supply and demand.” In project management, “there’s no
such thing as the work being late or not right”, she adds. “If Obelisk
is delivering, then Obelisk will deliver on time and within budget –
and we’ve never had any issues.”
Denis-Smith’s plan is to “keep growing and to be in a
multidisciplinary space to include accounting. The problems of
parenting and working in a professional environment remain – I
can’t see it ever ending. As long as we have kids, I think that will be
a challenge; technology will not do away with the challenge so that’s
what we’re trying to resolve.”
Dana Denis-Smith, founder and CEO, obelisksupport.com
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Increasing quality and reducing cost
Joe Andrew is global chairman of Dentons, the world’s largest law
firm. As architect of the firm’s strategy, he has overseen a series
of international mergers, most notably last year’s combination
with Chinese law firm, Dacheng. Asked to serve by President Bill
Clinton, Andrew became national chairman of the Democratic
National Committee from 1999 to 2001. Since joining Dentons
as a corporate lawyer in 2004, he has advised on deals worth
more than $500bn, most notably in the healthcare and insurance
sectors.
Dentons is different in many ways from other law firms. It dares
to innovate even in leadership. “Of all the big global law firms,
we’re the one which has two leaders at the top,” says Andrew. In
referring to Elliot Portnoy, global chief executive officer (CEO) of
Dentons, he adds: “Elliot and I are literally tied at the hip. We
have different areas of concentration in the process as well; we do
virtually everything together and there’s nothing that I do that
Elliot couldn’t do, or isn’t involved in in some way in the process.”
Andrew sees Dentons’ leadership structure as a metaphor for the
firm: “We have team leadership throughout the entire process and
we’ve done an effective job of making sure that power is as close
to the decision makers who actually understand the particular
details in each given area.
“We call that polycentric. That is our principal innovation.
It is often misunderstood because polycentric for us is not just
marketing, how we go to market, it’s how we’ve organised the
entire firm. It’s what allows us to be able to have decision making
as close as possible to the stacks on the ground, which allow us
to be able to make the best decisions in the process and therefore
have this multi-headed strategy all
operating at the same time in the
same place.”
Andrew never stops innovating:
there are many feathers in
his cap. Given the scale of his
responsibilities – “we have
more than 7,500 lawyers in
144 locations in 58 countries
around the world, with people
who speak 72 languages” –
he certainly needs to. The
firm’s most recent high profile
innovation, Nextlaw Labs, is
one such innovation.
Its purpose is to help
resolve a conflict between
two competing objectives, as
he explains: “All law firms,
particularly large firms, are faced
with a challenge: our clients want
us to use new technology and new
processing to increase quality and
reduce cost. At the same time, they only
want to hire lawyers who have the right
level of experience.”
As a solution, he describes Nextlaw Labs as
“a skunk works” – a term borrowed from IBM –
“where the things that might not be perceived today
to be core to your business but you believe will be later,
are done in a separate entity”. He adds: “The idea is that you
can bring people together to collaborate in a place that is not
internal to the law firm itself.”
Nextlaw Labs was founded because “as technologies develop
at different rates, we don’t know which technology will be the
winner”, says Andrew. It aims to do four different things: “It can
evaluate new technology that comes up; it can invest in those
technologies so that we reap the benefit of trying to be involved in
them; it enables us to develop our own technology; and it helps us
take existing technology and form a suite of services.”
Nextlaw is conceived as a brand for multiple entities, each of
them centred on innovation. There are seven, as yet unannounced,
ideas in the pipeline. Apart from Nextlaw Labs, the other one that
Joe Andrew, global chairman, Dentons
If you think about the uberisation of law, that is what NLGRN allows us to do. Fundamentally, what it does is
to match clients out there to the specific talent that
they need
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has seen the light of day created significant waves and generated
publicity across the legal world.
In May, Dentons launched Nextlaw Global Referral Network
(NLGRN), which allows independent firms to collaborate at no cost.
“If you think about the uberisation of law, that is what NLGRN
allows us to do. Fundamentally, what it does is to match clients out
there to the specific talent that they need.”
Andrew outlines the strategy: “We’re the world’s largest law
firm but we’re honest that we’re not the best law firm for each
client in each given place,” he says. “There are many places in the
world that we are not in at all – more than 300 cities with more
than a million people in them that we are not even in – and
we are far bigger than anyone else. If you’re honest about truly
having a law firm that has global reach, you have to see other
law firms not as competitors, but as collaborators.”
The challenge with existing law firm networks, he
suggests, is: “They’re all pay-to-play: the only way that a
network can work and still have an executive director,
a website and somebody who answers the telephone, is
that you’ve got to pay a fee. If you pay a fee, you tend
to want to exclude competition.”
Andrew explains that the goal of NLGRN is “to
use a technology platform, which makes it less
expensive, delivers a better service and is more
accessible, and simply say: we will pay for any
other cost and so the network can actually be free”.
He continues: “The only qualification to be in the
network is the quality of the firm and no one has
to pay. Why does our referral network succeed
where others don’t? It’s because there’s no barrier
to entry, it’s free and it’s not territorially exclusive.
World’s largest law firm plus world’s largest referral
network – that’s the future of the legal profession.”
How well has it worked so far? “We have the problem
of success,” Andrew says. “We have significantly more
law firms seeking to apply, particularly firms that we
do not have a pre-existing relationship with, that have
to be vetted by the committee. So yes, we are on schedule,
everything is working out well, but we are honest to say we
are a bit overwhelmed by the response.
“Think of all the great law firms that are out there that may
have five or 10 lawyers, 95% of the legal profession is with people
in law firms of less than 100 people. No one would let them in to a
referral network. Now, all of a sudden, they’re saying: I can be in a
referral network with the world’s largest law firm.”
Andrew has a vision: “To be able to look in the eye the most
sophisticated multinational corporation in the world, which is
going to give out high value work, and say: we either have, or I
can instantaneously find for you here on my smartphone in my
pocket, the exact right lawyer, in the exact right location, in order
to handle your challenge. We’ve identified what we consider to be
263 unique jurisdictions, which we think are key, right now, based
on GDP and analysis of legal work, that we need to have either one
very good law firm or multiple law firms in.”
In September, Dentons announced that Stephen Harper, the
former Prime Minister of Canada from 2006 to 2015, had affiliated
with the firm. Another coup for Dentons and another feather in
Andrew’s cap.
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For 20 years, David Kerr has been CEO of Bird
& Bird and before that, acted for some of
the largest telecoms operators in the
UK and Europe. As an international
law firm, Bird & Bird enjoys a
strong reputation for helping
clients in technology, or which
are being transformed by the
use of technology. It currently
works with 43 of the Fortune
Top 100 companies and
60 of the world’s 100 most
innovative companies, as
named by Forbes.
“We are very focused as a
firm,” says Kerr. “Our entire
market focus is on industries that
are either based on tech or being
fundamentally changed by tech.
We almost have to be among the most
innovative firms in the way in which we
use technology to satisfy that client base, in
order to be credible.”
One of the big lessons he has learned is that firms cannot just
develop technology solutions in isolation from the service that
they provide. “Often, law firms fall into the trap of building
something very clever and very technical,” he says. “But clients
don’t want to use it.” Instead, he likes solutions that “remove
the black box of law”. By this, he means using technology to
give clients more accurate information about the different
components of the services. “That’s exciting,” he says.
Describing a really good technology-based solution in a law
firm, one that’s really effective, he suggests: “It will have that
element of doing what we did before but making it more efficient,
better managed, with much clearer components of what’s going
on. Really good solutions can take a long time to evolve.”
Conceived a decade ago, Kerr points to an innovative online
client platform, which was his idea. “It enabled us to manage
services better, it gave clients much more control, multi-country,
enabled them to manage transactions, procurements, major
projects and litigation from a secure platform. And we built
it. It was extraordinary how it evolved over time. But the core
idea remains as true now as it did 10 years ago.” More than 60%
of the firm’s key clients now use it – “A real
achievement,” he adds.
Kerr believes that law firms need
a culture of innovation. “We work
quite hard at encouraging people
– often not partners but younger
people inside the organisation,
whether they are lawyers or
in business services, to come
up with good ideas or good
improvements. For example,
you are more likely to get
innovative ideas on usage of
social media from younger
generations coming up. You’ve
got to have a culture where
that is applauded and rewarded,
and it’s often the recognition
that matters the most. That really
matters.
“Does that make our service better? Yes,
it does. That’s key: the culture of innovation
has got to be really strong. When innovative ideas get
rolled out, you capture the imagination of partners. They need to
be motivated to talk about it with clients in an excited way, so
these clients immediately start being extremely interested.”
Innovation has been applied successfully in the firm’s new
risk management tools and is “very far down the road” in new
disclosure and litigation management systems. “We’ve got very
substantial takeup by clients and we’re slightly bemused because
we keep on seeing independent companies or law firms charging
for what we now just offer as part of the deal,” says Kerr. “Maybe
we’re missing a trick but demystifying the use of electronic
resources in managing vast volumes of data that you get on
investigations or litigation, is part of the service.”
This applies across all the offices of the firm in multiple
jurisdictions. So how does he manage this simultaneous
uniformity? “It’s always hard because law firms famously
struggle with having a command and control corporate
structure, because lawyers get brought up to be independently
minded – that’s their job in theory. What you’ve got to do is
capture their imagination. It’s all about getting them excited by
the idea of what we’re doing in the firm and it’s the same with
Removing the black box of lawDavid Kerr, chief executive officer, Bird & Bird
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and they have a bigger vision of the use of systems, software,
databases, AI. You name it.”
As a consequence, he suggests: “They are able to harness this
and say to the client: we can give you guidance on how you should
go about managing your legal requirements and indeed, related
requirements. It’s not just about legal, it can often be about related
knowledge management, related consulting issues, and we are
grappling with all three areas.”
innovation. Make no mistake though – if you adopt some of
these innovations, lawyers have to change what they do.”
He remains an optimist about the future role of technology in
legal services. “Lawyers who make use of systems to help them
do their work better, and who do that well, are going to have a
fantastic future. There’s no end of opportunities. There is scope
for lawyers to build part of what they do. They can become legal
architects; architects of how the service is going to be performed
You are more likely to get innovative ideas on usage
of social media from younger generations coming up. You’ve
got to have a culture where that is applauded and
rewarded
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Craig Courter is global chief operating officer at Baker &
McKenzie, consistently recognised as the world’s strongest
law firm brand by Acritas. Perhaps no surprise given that it
has more than 4,600 full-time lawyers in 77 offices across 47
countries. With that spread of responsibility, Courter needs to be
innovative.
The seeds of his innovative thinking were sown early. “I was
particularly lucky because I learned to programme in high school
in 1969. I left school knowing six programming languages and
have always enjoyed, as a hobby, programming and staying current
with the field: you get an intuitive feeling of whether something
can be done or not, because you can actually go do it.”
His hobby soon paid off. “I was in the navy for six years and
went to law school at night,” he says. “When I started practising
law in 1986, the firm I worked at didn’t have a computer; we had
memory typewriters but that was it. I suggested replacing the old
red Lexis terminal with a personal computer: the partners at my
firm (in San Diego) took a risk and we did.” The investment worked.
He then encouraged his firm to invest in a local area network and
later, barcode technology.
“In the mid-90s, we ran many trials and hearings with barcode-
driven computer technology. That’s not because the partners said:
here’s a good idea, go do it. It’s because they listened to people, like
me, who had our finger on the pulse both of what technology could
do and how to practice law, and could marry the two together.
They took a risk, let us do it and it turned out to be successful.”
Courter has been at the forefront of innovation ever since.
So how does he see it in practice today at Baker & McKenzie?
“Innovation is critical and technology is probably the great
leveller because it’s not that expensive to get into. Until a
few years ago, law firms weren’t particularly innovative,
just recycling ideas that our clients and the big accounting
firms had had for years. For the legal field those ideas
were innovative, because we were a little bit behind,
especially in technology.”
Whereas in AI, “nobody is really ahead”, he says. “It’s
a very young industry, it’s got law firms’ attention early
in its hype cycle, so this may be an area where we’re
going to be innovators, rather than just reinventing
what our clients and other companies do. With AI and
cognitive computing, we have a chance of running,
not at the front of the pack, but not very far behind the
front of the pack. It remains to be seen how good a job
we do using this technology in our practices.”
Courter is looking “very seriously” at AI: the firm
is seeking to use AI approaches in its billing system,
in document review and in contract analysis. “We have
many other ideas that we are pursuing related to AI,” he
reveals, “from uses of AI in the provision of legal services, to
something that I’m very interested in, which is the uses of true
machine learning in the efficient delivery of law firm operations.”
However, he concedes that AI “will force law firms to change and
adapt” and this may require fewer lawyers “in the longer term”.
Using technology, Courter explains, enables the firm to focus on
connecting with clients – anywhere, anytime. In collaboration and
knowledge sharing, the real innovation is in proprietary systems
such as Baker & McKenzie Online, an extranet which, among other
features, allows clients to access a document simultaneously with
lawyers, to co-edit it and to see each other’s edits.
There are also knowledge-sharing products developed by the
firm, including the FT Innovation Award-winning Global Merger
and Acquisition Planner. This helps companies doing multi-
jurisdictional acquisitions to analyse competition and antitrust
rules across jurisdictions.
“Clients need to be getting answers to questions very quickly
and technology is a great enabler. They want to get the same
level of service and the same capabilities and seamless delivery of
service, wherever they are being served by Baker & McKenzie. We
do a lot of things to try and make sure that is the client experience.
And yes, you absolutely need to be innovative in order to give the
clients what they require and what they deserve.”
Craig Courter, global chief operating officer, Baker & McKenzie
Connecting with clients via tech
AI will force law firms to change and adapt and this may
require fewer lawyers in the longer term
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So what are the expectations? “Clients expect us to be innovative
in legal knowledge, legal arguments, legal theories and the practice
of law. We are very innovative in that. Clients also want us to be
innovative in service delivery as well, because they’re under huge
cost pressures and we need to be as innovative as we can to try to
assist them: to do it better, faster and cheaper.”
He identifies the firm’s Global Services Manila, a shared services
centre established in 2000, as being extremely innovative –
the first of its kind. “That allowed us to do a lot more with less
dollar resources.” It was followed last year by an additional centre
in Belfast, adding legal services to the firm’s shared services
offerings, with more than 850 staff in Manila
and Belfast approaching 200.
Courter is keen to develop a culture
of innovation among young lawyers and
professional staff. “A leader in an innovative
organisation needs to be open to ideas that
aren’t his or hers – that they can just help
others develop,” he says. “Young lawyers
are already innovators and what we have to
do is pay attention to them. We have some
very specific examples of that, including AI-
based technology that one of our associates has
developed. I can’t talk about the detail now but we
are very encouraging of that.”
Many lawyers toward the end of their career, he
suggests, “can run Word, do email, and otherwise make
their computer work”. But he adds: “They really don’t have
an intuitive sense for why the computer works that way.” He
points, by contrast, to: “The generation of lawyers that we’re
hiring now: they’ve always had computers, they understand how
they operate. It’s just second nature to them, they know how to
do it. They may not be programmers but they have probably done
some programming in their career and they say not only, ‘boy, I
am frustrated because this is really inefficient’, but they are also
able to say: ‘here’s a better way to do it’.”
To remain innovative, he admits, “is really hard”, adding: “Because
with the COO hat on, you’re torn between efficiency in operations
and innovation. And if you’re designing an organisation to be
innovative, you would design it differently than one that needed to
be ruthlessly efficient. If we wanted to truly be innovative in every
aspect, then we would probably have more groups of people who
were allowed to work on ideas independently, without significant
standards, and let a thousand flowers bloom. There’s a little bit of
tension in how you need to run an organisation to be efficient and
how you want to make sure you are at least getting some level of
innovation in what you’re doing.”
The generation of lawyers that we’re hiring now: they’ve always had computers,
they understand how they operate. It’s just second
nature to them
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Andrew Arruda describes himself as an entrepreneur, strategist
and leader, with nearly a decade of experience in the legal
industry. He is also a licensed attorney, who “knows the ins and
outs of the legal profession and aims to forever change the way
legal services are delivered”.
He plans to do this through ROSS Intelligence, which he co-
founded in 2014. ROSS is “the world’s first artificially intelligent
attorney”, built using IBM’s Watson. It understands natural
language legal questions and provides expert answers instantly,
along with other relevant information – cutting down
substantially on legal research time and energy.
Prior to ROSS Intelligence, Arruda worked at Toronto litigation
boutique, Azevedo & Nelson, and with the Canadian Department
of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development in Portugal. But in
the last year, ROSS and Arruda have been featured everywhere
from the BBC to CNBC, The New York Times to The Financial
Times.
So how did ROSS start out? “The genesis wasn’t from me,” says
Arruda. “It came originally from a Texan, Jimoh Ovbiagele, who
was transferred to the University of Toronto, which has arguably
the world’s leading AI department. He called me one day and
said: ‘what do you think about building a system that would
bring the power of AI to the law and that would allow lawyers to
instantly update the information that they need to do their job?’
“I ended up leaving my law firm. We moved into a basement
and maxed out our credit cards to fund our early days.” They
started in Toronto, where “they got a ton of interest from the
law firms”, says Arruda, before moving to Palo Alto in mid-
2015, where they got some funding help from Y
Combinator – early funders to Airbnb among
others.
ROSS bankruptcy was the first product.
“There are tight guidelines and bankruptcy
is a perfect way to show ROSS can be used
in a pinch,” says Arruda. Like humans,
it can learn and contextualise, getting
smarter the more you use it.
He explains: “ROSS harnesses
the power of natural language
processing. When a user asks
a (hypothetical) legal research
question, just as they would ask
a lawyer, it analyses, compares
and contrasts the words and
sees the relationships those
words have on each other, much
like humans do, and therefore
it uncovers the intent of the
question itself.”
ROSS can therefore
“understand what you’re asking,
and it’s trying to aim at the why
you’re asking it”. After layering
on machine learning, it continues
to learn – “essentially try to mimic
the way we as humans learn things”.
As to how ROSS has the capacity
to draw inferences and formulate
hypotheses, the answer, says Arruda,
“is a very complicated process that uses
hundreds of different algorithms”. He adds:
“The way to boil that down simply: what it is
trying to do is decipher different things and add
on a different weighting system.” Going back to the
hypothetical question, “it brings back the passages of
law it feels most confident answer your question”.
Unlike some gloomy forecasters who predict AI will
ultimately mean the end of lawyers, Arruda thinks that it “will
actually make humans more human”.
He sees ROSS and AI more broadly “as a really powerful tool for
positive change in society”, because it will save money on legal
ROSS is ‘the world’s first artificially intelligent
attorney’...it understands natural language legal questions and
provides expert answers instantly
Andrew Arruda, co-founder, ROSS Intelligence
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research time. He points
to the 80% of Americans
“who if they need a
lawyer, can’t afford one”.
As a legal tool, ROSS
is sold as a cost and
time saver. It is being
rapidly developed
and has already been
tested by hundreds of
lawyers in multiple
law firms. Baker
Hostetler was one of
the first big names to
sign up, followed more
recently by Latham &
Watkins.
In terms of cost, there
is no published fixed
tariff. But Arruda is keen
to point out: “We made
Ross to be able to be used
by solo practitioners, small,
medium and large law firms –
so it’s very affordable. We like to
peg the monthly charge at roughly
what it would cost for an hour of a
lawyer’s time on average, with the logic
that using Ross is going to be saving you
countless hours a month.”
For a technical innovation to work
commercially, the market has to buy. Arruda is
confident that they will: “I like to think that ROSS will
certainly become a ubiquitous piece of technology for the law
firms that exist in the future. Our goal right now is to put ROSS
into the hands of every lawyer across the world.”
Arruda knows the ins and outs of the legal
profession and aims to forever change the way
legal services are delivered
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Ranajoy Basu is a man on a mission: to create
a positive social impact around the world
and particularly in emerging markets
including India, his country of birth,
using the law as an instrument
of innovation. Basu is a partner
in structured finance at Reed
Smith in London and also
heads the firm’s Social Impact
Finance Group. Prior to joining
Reed Smith, he worked at
Allen & Overy and Berwin
Leighton Paisner.
“The idea of social impact
financing came through a
transaction, BOLD (Blueorchard
Loans for Development),” he says.
“It was innovative, the first of its kind,
and at the time in 2007, it went on to
win several awards for Deal of the Year,
because it was the first rated securitisation of
microfinance transactions.”
Through this experience, Basu realised that he could apply
his legal expertise from capital markets and structured finance
transactions in creating social impact. “There is a great need for
unlocking private capital towards funding social impact projects
in areas of the world where such funding is vital,” he explains.
Before joining Reed Smith in 2012, he became involved in
several transactions similar to BOLD. Once at the firm, and with
support from senior management, he established the Social
Impact Finance Group across the firm’s many offices, where a team
of lawyers across a number of practice areas advise on numerous
social impact projects, including the recent Educate Girls Project,
which is a landmark transaction on cross-border impact funding
in the education sector.
Up until that point, social impact bonds had always been
structured on a domestic basis. The challenge was to get funding
across jurisdictions. Basu was driven by the need “to structure
something innovative, which targeted the education needs of more
than 20,000 girls in remote parts of India, such as Rajasthan”.
Advising on the structuring, documentation, regulation and
tax were key. In a project that started at the end of 2013 and
completed 18 months later, “the key innovative element”, explains
Basu, “was ensuring that the social impact linked
back to the payment that the investors get”.
That repayment would be contingent on
specified outcomes being achieved.
There were three elements
that were key in relation to this
innovative transaction: (i) the
structuring of the payment
mechanics; (ii) the parameters
of success or the success
metrics that would be applied
to evaluate the level of positive
impact achieved by the projects;
and (iii) the level of information
that would be available in India
for the impact evaluators to be
able to measure the outcome. It was
also critical that all of these aspects
were clearly documented under a robust
legal framework. Through an exhaustive,
complex and creative process, the first cross-
border development impact bond succeeded, with the
investment being raised from UBS Optimus Foundation.
“It is encouraging to see that the first-year results of the project
have been positive and also that the structural framework
developed by Instiglio, UBS Optimus and CIFF, is holding up in its
application on the ground,” says Basu.
“In terms of innovation, as a lawyer, the most exciting aspect and
the challenge is to be able to deliver a relatively simple solution to
our clients who are looking at developing a financing framework,
where the social impact is closely linked to every aspect of the
transaction. It is hoped that the Educate Girls Project will be the
first of many such transactions delivering positive change for the
education of children.”
In rethinking traditional models of social impact, thanks to
Basu, Reed Smith is continuing to innovate. The firm now has
almost 150 people in finance, tax, regulatory and corporate across
its office network as part of the Social Impact Finance Group.
“Over the last few years, our Social Impact Finance Group has
evolved into a mainstream practice area for us, which is what
we wanted to build right from the beginning. The social impact
finance market is growing rapidly and we are very excited to be
part of these innovative transactions,” he says.
Ranajoy Basu, partner, Reed Smith
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In terms of innovation, the most exciting aspect is to be able to deliver a relatively simple solution to our clients...
where the social impact is closely linked to every aspect of
the transaction
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Wim Dejonghe joined Allen & Overy as a partner in 2001, having
previously been a partner at Loeff Claeys Verbeke. In May, he
became A&O’s senior partner. Before that, he was global
managing partner of the firm for eight years.
“I see my role more as a facilitator and a challenger,”
he says. “A facilitator for the people who come
up with innovative ideas and a challenger for
those who don’t.” He points to a range of new
products, services and technology at A&O that
“either improve delivery of legal services or
make it more efficient”. He explains: “If you
look at it with some perspective, in the
end it’s about the delivery model and the
processes around it.”
Technology, he suggests, is “probably
overrated” and “the process piece
is underrated, because in the end
technology allows you to improve the
way you deliver services to the client
by introducing more efficiencies and
taking out human error and replacing
it by technology”.
He points to several initiatives:
the firm’s new online legal services
platform Aosphere, the legal services
centre in Belfast, and Peerpoint. Aosphere
is an online monthly subscription service
for A&O clients, offering 10 different
products targeted at financial institutions:
there are currently about 10,000 individual
users. Dejonghe cites the example of shareholder
disclosure products.
“Each time you buy or sell shares, you have disclosure
obligations under a wide range of legislation in different
jurisdictions,” he says. “That can mean up to 70 disclosure
obligations on any given transaction. Aosphere delivers an
online tool where you answer five to 10 questions, depending on
the complexity, and it will then automatically either send the
notifications that you need to send online, deliver the documents
that you have to sign to send, or tell you what disclosure obligations
you have. For clients, it is quick, cost effective and provides
certainty that it’s up to date. The funds industry, for example, is
very interested.”
Facilitator and challengerWim Dejonghe, senior partner, Allen & Overy
The success of the Belfast launch in 2011 is covered in David
Morley’s profile: the office now has 80 lawyers on client work and
total staff of about 450, making it the firm’s second largest office
after London. “We were lucky with one or two high profile deals
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to start with, and the rest is history,” says Dejonghe. “We now
have around 60% of our partners using our Belfast legal services.”
He would like it to grow further but “our building is full”.
Another key innovation steered by Dejonghe is Peerpoint,
which enlists the firm’s alumni to assist on projects in periods
of high demand. It has been operating in the UK since late 2013
and was launched in Hong Kong last year. It now has approaching
160 lawyers.
“Peerpoint is made up of experienced senior lawyers,” explains
Dejonghe, “who, for whatever reasons, don’t want to work full
time but have specific experience or knowledge. They work on a
project basis, either within A&O or with our clients. We call them
in to work on a project, typically for between three months and a
year, either sitting with us or with clients.
“Peerpoint caters for a specific client need, it deals with
fluctuations in demand within A&O, and it caters to
individual needs for individual lawyers, who don’t want to
work long hours every day. The talent pool is vast: young
women with children, musicians, people who want to
try a writing career. Lots of very interesting people who
have a wider view of the world but are bloody good
lawyers.”
Although A&O already has 95 US-qualified partners
and just under 400 US-qualified lawyers around the
world, Dejonghe agrees that “innovations like this
will help us crack the US market and build our US
practice”.
Dejonghe also believes that having different
delivery models such as Peerpoint, in combination
with the traditional model, enables A&O to gain
market share. “For many of the bigger projects we get
in from clients,” he says, “we deliver legal services and
advice through a combination of Belfast, Peerpoint,
technology and the traditional law firm. The fact that
you can offer that under one brand, one insurance, one
reputation, is what is attractive to clients.”
He concedes that if you process map all the legal work
that A&O does, some of it is commoditised. “There’s still
a denial in the industry,” he says, “that we’re all doing that.
Every quality firm claims that they’re only doing the highest
complexity work, which is true, but all of the highest complexity
work also contains an element of commoditised services. As long
as you deny that is part of what you offer, you will not think
about how you can deliver more effectively.”
Dejonghe was instrumental in the highly innovative
MarginMatrix, a new digital derivatives compliance system
launched by A&O in June. MarginMatrix helps major banks deal
with new regulatory requirements that came into force for the
$500tn over-the-counter derivatives market from 1 September
2016. The system is being deployed as an end-to-end managed
service in collaboration with Deloitte, which manages and
resources the client outreach and counterparty negotiation
process.
“Every country has introduced the rules in a slightly different
way, which means the banks have a big problem: they need to
renegotiate all these agreements,” says Dejonghe. “Rather than
renegotiating them one by one and then have a legal opinion,
what we have done is to preload the new requirements on the
software that we have developed internally.
“We’ve gone out to the banks and said: you’re subject to
Singapore, HK, EU and US law, this software will give you the
margin within which you have to renegotiate those agreements.
So any negotiator can go to their counterparties, plug in the
data of his negotiation into the software and it will give a green
number or a red light. You don’t need the lawyer any more to
negotiate.”
As a technical and commercial innovation, it has been very
successful. “We went to sell it to the banks and it sold out,” says
Dejonghe. “I cannot disclose the names but we’ve sold it to all the
major banks around the world. At this stage, I don’t think there
is a product available that competes. It reverses the process: by
putting legal advice in the system first and then you negotiate
agreements within the system, rather than negotiate a contract
and then go for legal advice and ask whether it’s fine.”
Dejonghe sees the wider development of innovation within
A&O as key: “Not all our lawyers are innovators. I don’t come
up with all these great ideas myself. But what you do is you
encourage. In any law firm there are probably 5-10% of lawyers
that come up with ideas. It’s a matter of encouraging them,
freeing them up and saying: this is a brilliant idea, let’s take the
risk, investigate further, invest a bit, get some technology, do a
dry run in the market to see whether there’s any appetite.
“And if it fails, it fails. It’s been good marketing. If you go to
clients with an idea and it doesn’t work, you still demonstrate
that you’ve been thinking about their problems; you’re not just
waiting for their phonecall to share a problem with you, you’re
going proactively out into the market.”
In any law firm there are probably 5-10% of lawyers
that come up with ideas. It’s a matter of encouraging them,
freeing them up and saying: this is a brilliant idea, let’s
take the risk
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Stuart Whittle is not unique but he is
unusual: a law firm partner who
moved full time into IT and, since
2010, a member of Weightmans’
management board. He now
has more than a decade’s
experience as an innovative
IT director at Weightmans.
This dual perspective
gives him a valuable
understanding of what
innovation means in
practice.
His interest in IT
started as a trainee
solicitor: “The firm was
acting on a huge class
action for various law firms
arising out of equity release
mortgages,” says Whittle.
“Another firm presented us with
a Microsoft Access 1995 database to
help manage the litigation: beautifully
crafted but we couldn’t get it to work for us.
“My IT partner said: do you know anything
about IT? To which the answer was: not really. So he sent
me on a lengthy Microsoft Access course – at the time, a radical
thing to do. I then pulled this database apart and put it back
together again. The frustration I’ve always had with the law is
there are lots of right answers and you’re never quite sure whether
you’ve got the right one. In IT, it either works or it doesn’t, or it
works elegantly or it doesn’t.”
Whittle spent 10 years as a practising lawyer before moving
full time into IT. “In my naive world as a lawyer, I was delivering
services to clients: what I thought were the things the client
wanted. When I got into IT – perspective is a wonderful thing
– I quickly discovered that the suppliers I valued were those that
knew more about my business than I did, the ones who understood
I had a problem and made it go away.”
Whittle ran the IT department for five years and then assumed
responsibility for the firm’s operational functions: marketing,
HR, facilities, projects, risk and business processing engineering.
After learning “some hard lessons in case management systems”,
he spent a year designing and rolling out basic
workflows, making sure everybody in the
firm was using the system. “We were
early adopters of case management
technology,” he says.
These internal systems have
since progressed much further:
“If the client wants to see
management information
that we collect,” Whittle
explains, “we can show
them all the documents
in the systems plus the
financial information and
aggregate it at a portfolio
level.” This is supplemented
by providing clients with
dashboards that help them
derive meaning from the data.
Whittle has ensured that all
systems have been fully integrated
as a result of mergers by Weightmans.
But being innovative for clients has been
paramount: “The thing that drives lawyers is
clients. Many of the changes we have introduced
have been at the behest of a particular client. Having then
used that in one area and shown that it works, we have rolled it
out elsewhere.”
His main challenge in being innovative? “Time. We don’t lack
great ideas but like many law firms, we are a victim: the urgent
stuff always takes priority.”
He is “genuinely interested” in what AI might do. “There’s a
lot of potential, particularly if you can do something with this
huge corpus of information that my firm has: that combination of
structured and unstructured data, to derive patterns and meaning
from it and link that unstructured data to structured data. There
is something very powerful there. But it’s a big if.”
Persuading lawyers to invest time (and money) is best done by
results, as he explains: “By definition, lawyers are very good at
telling you all the reasons why something won’t work. Whatever
you suggest isn’t ever going to be perfect. But if you can get a
partner talking about how they’ve done something different for a
client, that’s what gets other partners interested.”
Stuart Whittle, IT director, Weightmans
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If you can get a partner talking about how they’ve done something different for a client,
that’s what gets other partners interested
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Searching for the game changerMike Rebeiro, global head of technology and innovation, Norton Rose Fulbright
As global head of technology and innovation at Norton
Rose Fulbright (NRF), Mike Rebeiro advises on large-scale IT
and business process outsourcing, including cross-border
transactions, IT procurement, data privacy and digital projects
for both the public and private sectors. Innovation is therefore in
his DNA.
Rebeiro offers a considered view on how innovation is best
applied: “Law firms have been good at innovation but they
haven’t necessarily connected innovation to technology-enabled
innovation. There are two different things. The legal profession
generally has focused its innovation on doing what it does better,
but it hasn’t focused its efforts on what I would call disruptive
innovation.
“That is the challenge for law firms now because in terms of
disruptive innovation, we are in a place where business model
disruption is happening all around us. It’s affecting every industry
that we work for and it is going to affect the legal services market.
That business model disruption means that we are susceptible to
disruption from non-traditional legal players.”
He defines the latter as those who “really invest heavily in
technology and actually understand how that they can use
technology, big data analytics and AI to disrupt what we do”.
Rebeiro believes: “Innovation happens when you have intelligent
people working collaboratively together rather than on their own
– we’re trying to get people to do that.” Part of the problem with
law firms, he suggests, is: “They expect that if they’re going to
invest in a project, they expect that project to work first time but
innovation isn’t always successful. Lawyers need to recognise that
if we invest in innovation, nine times out of 10, it won’t
be a success. But the one time out of 10 that it will be
a success may be a game changer. That’s a different
mindset.”
NRF is trying to inculcate innovation and
encourage innovative thinking through every
layer of the firm but especially in the next
generation of younger lawyers, believing that is
where innovation can really thrive.
“The problem,” says Rebeiro, “is that lawyers
tend to be very conservative in their approach
to life. The things that we can learn from those
who are at the cutting edge is the willingness
to fail, to have that entrepreneurial spirit and
that startup feeling. Not many lawyers working
in private practice have ever worked in a startup
and we need to get that startup culture into
our approach to innovation.” Part of this lies
in increasing their risk appetite, “but not taking
risk for the sake of taking risk”, he adds.
Rebeiro identifies technology as a process: law
firms gradually moving into investment in back-
office technology, then into the middle and front
offices.
“But we’re still way off from the front office: looking
at technology replacing the role of some of the things that
we do now,” he says, pointing to “an element of tasks that
we regard as high value at the moment, which will over time
become more commoditised and, as that happens, they become
susceptible to technology implementation and technology change.”
Law firms are notoriously late adopters because “they are reticent
to invest in technology”, argues Rebeiro. “So the profession invests
in the back-office infrastructure stuff. But that’s not exciting
technology; it’s not transformative technology.” While NRF is also
investing heavily in its back-office technology, the firm’s current
priority is investing in the front office.
Although he identifies due diligence process and contract drafting
as being particularly susceptible to imminent AI applications,
Rebeiro sees AI as nascent technology: “It’s a bit like the driverless
car: you won’t go from having a fully piloted or driven car to a
driverless car overnight, but you’ll get to the tipping point where
there will be more fully driverless cars on the road by a certain date
than there will be driving cars. That will happen with AI as well.
If you think of a law firm, the amount of data they own,
that’s where the value is, that’s where the diamonds in the
rough can be found
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“We’re already seeing some AI applications in use. But it will
become far more interesting when you combine AI with big data
and predictive analytics, because we’ll be able to use big data and AI
to have a much more sophisticated approach to risk.”
In the medium term, Rebeiro suggests that big data analytics will
be critical. “If you think of a law firm, the amount of data they
own, that’s where the value is, that’s where the diamonds in the
rough can be found,” he says. “Being able to use big data analytics
to analyse risk appetite and to see how
the risk appetite landscape is changing;
being able to identify what really is
important to negotiate and what isn’t
important to negotiate. That’s where
the real value comes. It’s where the
investment dollars should go.”
Digital strategy is another key
priority for NRF: “If you don’t have a
digital strategy, I don’t think you’re
going to be around in five years’ time,”
says Rebeiro. “You need to look at digital
holistically within the business: anything
from the back office through to social
media, the AI app, search engine, data
streaming, data acquisition. Perhaps a better
way of putting it is having a data strategy as
well as a digital strategy.”
In finding out about what other law firms are
doing, Rebeiro is disinterested: “I’m much more
interested in what other business sectors are doing: as a
profession we have much more to learn from other industry
sectors than we do from looking at each other,” he says. “We
are, as an industry, analogue – and the world is digital.”
In terms of business model disruption, he points to what is
happening in automobile automation, the internet of things, big
data predictive analytics and the operation of Uber and Airbnb:
“We have much more to learn from the sharing economy than we
do by looking at what other professional services firms are doing,”
he says.
When it comes to encouraging innovation within NRF, Rebeiro
argues for incentivising innovation. “Traditionally, lawyers are
incentivised by how many hours they bill – that model has to
go. You have to incentivise people far more by their contribution
to the business; and innovation needs to be seen as part of a key
contribution to the business.”
We are, as an industry, analogue – and the world
is digital
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When David Morley started at Allen & Overy (A&O) in 1980,
there were 35 partners and just one office. Annual billings were
around £8m. By the time he retired in April, after eight years
as senior partner and a further five years as managing partner,
the firm had 530 partners across its network of 44 offices in 31
countries. Its latest annual revenues were £1.28bn.
“I spent my whole career with one firm, so there must be
something about it that worked for me, either that or a complete
lack of imagination,” says Morley. A natural restlessness drove
him to innovate: “I never felt that whatever we were doing could
ever be perfect. As a firm, we had quite a healthy culture. But no
matter how well we did, we always questioned ourselves as to
whether we could do it better. There was a constant search for a
better way of doing something better, to improve. That’s been a
driving motivation for me all through my life.”
Among A&O’s groundbreaking innovations was the decision
in July 2011 to open a Belfast office, comprising the firm’s Legal
Services Centre and Support Services Centre. Morley was then
senior partner (chairman) and Wim Dejonghe managing partner
(CEO). David credits Dejonghe with being the driving force
behind the Belfast move and Peerpoint (see Dejonghe’s profile on
page 16). “We worked very closely together and saw the world in
much the same way. Two heads are often better than one when
driving forward change.”’
The inspiration, he suggests, was: “A recognition that we’d
moved into a tougher, lower growth environment – we needed
to search for ways in which we could run our operations more
efficiently and more cost effectively. We decided to completely
reimagine the way we were doing things in the back office and
reconstruct it. We needed to move out of London because it didn’t
make sense any longer to have all your back office situated in the
heart of one of the most expensive cities in the world.”
But the Belfast decision wasn’t just about cost, he says. “It
was also about improving our processes so we could streamline
things. Over the years, all organisations, they’re like boats that
sit in the sea: they gather barnacles, they lose that racing edge –
you need to wax and polish them, you need to look after them,
you need to have another look at what you need to do to keep
your speed up.”
Immediately before the Belfast launch was due to go public,
there was a crisis of confidence: “We’d spent over a year doing all
the work – a huge effort. But the night before we were due to
announce it, Wim came into my room and said: ‘We’re going to
have to cancel this because there’s just too much opposition,
too many people telling us where we’re going wrong and
why it won’t work.’
“We both knew there was absolutely no way we were
not going to go ahead with it. But whenever you do
anything new, particularly in the law, it unsettles
and confounds people. This is part of the key to
successful innovation: getting the balance right
between listening to the sceptics, the naysayers and
the doomsters – who sometimes can be right – but
not being overwhelmed by them, and being able to
make progress and move things forward even in the
teeth of sometimes quite entrenched opposition.”
Morley puts the innovation of Belfast into context:
“A number of firms ended up doing similar things
but ours did catch the eye in the way that we did it,
the scale that we did it, the speed that we did it and
the way we executed it. That’s a really important point
that often gets lost. Many people think that innovation
is about dreaming up wacky ideas or inventing the next
iPad, but a lot of it is in the execution: being able to turn
those ideas into something practical that works and that
sticks.” Slightly amended, he quotes an old army phrase: prior
preparation prevents particularly poor performance.
Two other innovations championed by Morley (and Dejonghe)
are worthy of note. The first is Peerpoint: A&O’s global, flexible
resourcing business. It provides the opportunity for experienced,
top-tier lawyers to work as consultants on contract in high
quality legal placements with A&O teams and for clients directly.
“It started from realising that the market was changing: a shift
in attitudes among clients and lawyers as to the ways in which
people might work. The main driver was thinking about how
could we make this boat go faster, how could we streamline our
processes, how could we produce a better result for the client and
for the firm in terms of how we manage our resources.”
Again, there was scepticism: worries about quality control and
how A&O would train its junior lawyers if it took off. “Lots of
very valid concerns,” says Morley. To address the quality issue,
Peerpoint began with only A&O alumni. “That is often a good
way of approaching innovation: to start in a manageable way
that addresses the main criticisms and enables you to get the
thing off the ground and demonstrate that the model works.”
When the demand from clients became evident, “we started
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Morley describes PRIME as “a
nationwide initiative” – almost 100 law
firms across the UK have joined since
it was started. “Its goal,” he explains,
”is to provide quality work experience
to young people from less privileged
backgrounds. That is key because
quality work experience is the new jobs
currency.”
“Those firms together have provided
quality work experience to more than
3,000 young people who would almost
certainly not otherwise have had that
opportunity. A&O kicked it all off but it’s the
collective effort of the firms that joined the
scheme that has made the difference. Finding
a format that enabled every firm to agree upon a
common approach was the real innovation.”
The motivation for both schemes was personal:
“I went to a state school in Chester,” says Morley. “I just
couldn’t believe, [as] somebody coming from an ordinary
background, with parents earning average or below average
wages, [that] it was actually getting harder to enter the profession
than when I entered 35 years ago. That seemed to me to be bad
for individuals, bad for society and bad for the profession as a
whole. The profession definitely needs a diversity of talent; not
just gender and all of those things, but also background.”
He met many people who felt the same way, so: “It seemed to
be a concrete, practical step that we could take. It doesn’t answer
every question nor solve every problem, but there’s only so much
you can do, and that you can ask the business to do, in helping
with these social initiatives. This seemed like a very practical way
where we could really help – by offering practical assistance to
people who might otherwise not have had it and getting people
into the profession who might otherwise not have done so.”
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experimenting, putting people into clients and charging them”,
says Morley. “Once the model was proven, people recognised
it and partners started using it, then we were able to persuade
people that we could go beyond the A&O alumni and recruit
other highly qualified people.” Today, roughly half of Peerpoint’s
lawyers are A&O alumni.
Morley’s second innovation has been as a founding member
of PRIME, which emerged from Smart Start, the firm’s initiative
to give Year 12 students from non-privileged backgrounds the
chance to spend a week at A&O offices and gain a real insight into
the world of business.
Whenever you do anything new, particularly in the law, it unsettles and confounds
people. This is part of the key to successful
innovation
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Bringing crowdfunding to the lawJulia Salasky, founder, CrowdJustice
Entrepreneur, lawyer and innovator –
34-year-old Julia Salasky only founded
CrowdJustice last year. But since
then, the first UK crowdfunding
site dedicated to increasing
access to justice has funded
multiple cases, several of them
prominent causes of national
significance. Formerly
a UN lawyer working
on intergovernmental
negotiations and online
dispute resolution, and
before that a Linklaters
associate, Salasky conceived
of fusing crowdfunding
with litigation that has a
public interest or that affects
communities.
“On the one hand, I saw the rise of
petition sites and the way that crowdfunding
had become mainstream,” she explains, “and
on the other, a major gap between people who need to
access the legal system and those who can afford to do so. It just
seemed like an obvious interception.” She points to: “A continued
rise in online activism: people who really want to take part in
issues that affect them, their community, people they care about,
and they often feel helpless in being able to do so.”
Salasky was careful to launch in a way
that “specifically accommodates the legal
compliance and regulatory issues that
lawyers, law firms and people funding
litigation encounter”. CrowdJustice
does a lot of regulatory checks
behind the scenes but in many
ways it operates much like any
conventional crowdfunding
page: set a target and make
your case. CrowdJustice gives
the tools to help users to
promote it to the right people
and to build a community
around the case. If the target is
reached, 93.5% of funds raised
goes to cover fees, 5% goes to
CrowdJustice and 1.4% to payment
processor fees. The average donation is
£35 and just under 90% of cases hit their
target funding level.
One of their first big cases was Joint Enterprise
Not Guilty by Association (JENGbA), a campaign group
for family members fighting for justice on behalf of those
imprisoned under the law of joint enterprise. In February
2016, JENGbA used CrowdJustice to fund its intervention in the
Supreme Court – the first ever to be crowdfunded at the highest
level – and was successful in changing the law, which had been
“wrongly interpreted for 30 years”, according to Lord Neuberger,
president of the Supreme Court.
‘The JENGbA case was a powerful way of people coming
together to create real change through the law,” says Salasky.
Publicity generated by such high profile cases creates “a virtuous
circle”, she explains. “The more people who know about a case,
the more they are likely to give and to engage with different
issues. There’s a huge cross-fertilisation, so people who give to
one case may well give to another.”
Following the Chilcot report, the Iraq War Families Campaign
Group, which represents the families of the 179 British
servicemen and women killed in the conflict, raised £150,000
on CrowdJustice. They are seeking to “bring to justice those
responsible for the war”. Donors also funded a legal bid by
Labour party members over a vote in the leadership election.
JENGbA used CrowdJustice to fund
its intervention in the Supreme Court – the first ever to be
crowdfunded at the highest level – and was successful in
changing the law
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CrowdJjustice has seen cases from firms such as Bindmans,
Leigh Day and Irwin Mitchell.
Many cases on the platform have focused on environmental
and planning issues, like the local residents challenging the
decision to put a permanent cruise liner on the Thames near
Greenwich, because of potential pollution. They have also seen
personal cases where people are trying, for example, to pay for
employment tribunal fees.
“Doing something new in an industry that is naturally
conservative, you have to overcome existing habits and ways
of doing things in a way that benefits everybody,” explains
Salasky. “CrowdJustice enables individuals and community
groups to access the legal system but it’s also a way for lawyers
who can’t afford to take all their cases pro bono to get paid, and
for important legal issues to get heard before the courts. That
benefits society as a whole.”
Surprisingly, there is nothing comparable yet in Canada,
Australia, or her native US – at least nothing quite like the
CrowdJjustice donation-based model. But Salasky has ambitions.
“We’re looking at the US,” she says. “We already have a lot of US
traffic to the site and significant inbound interest from people who
want to crowdfund US cases.” Ideally, expanding into the US would
involve “building local credibility and looking to establish good
relationships with top public interest firms, charities and NGOs”.
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“Lawyers are not great at things going wrong or in dealing with
uncertainty. Innovation requires an ability to deal with both,”
says Simon Harper, co-founder of Lawyers On Demand (LOD).
Started in 2007, LOD was Harper’s brainchild (together with
Jonathan Brenner) after eight years as a partner leading the
technology and media team at Berwin Leighton Paisner (BLP).
Ever since, LOD has been at the forefront of alternative legal
service providers, creating a new category of business.
In 2012, Harper stepped down from the BLP partnership to spin
out LOD and lead the business full time. Since the spinoff, lawyer
headcount has trebled. Today, it has around 650 freelance lawyers
working with clients operating in the UK and – via its recent merger
with AdventBalance – in Australia, Hong Kong and Singapore.
At the outset, Harper points to a combination of three things
happening simultaneously as catalysts. First, he highlights: “An
awareness that our large corporate clients were looking for a
different way of doing some of their work, their business as
usual work, which just didn’t make sense for them at £300- £500
per hour.”
The second piece was “more of a hunch”, he says. “People who
didn’t want the traditional route, had got a fantastic CV but just
wanted to work differently. It was something bigger than work-
life balance, a shift in attitude about what people really wanted
from their working life. The hunch was: this wasn’t just a small
group of individuals but a wider group that would be happy to
work that way.”
The third element centred on how people work, the role
of technology, globalisation and the shifting expectations of
the employer-employee relationship. “Perhaps an
openmindedness to how people work, fuelled by
different technology,” says Harper.
In combining three pieces of the puzzle,
“the glue”, he adds, came with LOD creating
“a different sort of legal service”. LOD was in
gestation for a year, launching before the
crisis of 2008-09. “The latent need in the
market was then accelerated,” says Harper,
who had to persuade others to back him:
“Lawyers can do risk but there is an
unwillingness to deal with uncertainty.”
He explains that there are two sides
to the LOD equation that make it work.
“There is the client side and the lawyer
side – because with that offering, the
lawyers who work with LOD have as much
power as the clients do: they can choose
where they work, when they work, how
they work and who they want to work with.”
Harper wanted to “banish the false
perception of lawyers who choose to work
on a project or interim basis as being second
rate”. But arguably his greatest challenge came
from starting LOD within an existing law firm,
although he points to “a hugely helpful approach
from BLP”. Leveraging the BLP brand was “useful”,
but he found that LOD very quickly “built up trust”.
In presenting the LOD brand, he worked hard to
differentiate. He says: “Even how the website or material
looked, we always used the mantra: what wouldn’t a law firm
do?” The key issue in brand differentiation, he explains, was to
retain the quality. “That was about the lawyers we hired and
the people we hired to run the business – to make sure that
whatever we did was shot through with quality.”
As LOD’s success became clear, imitators emerged: “A really
useful reminder that innovation isn’t static,” he says. “In a
changing market you’ve got to keep moving. We’ve got to keep
making sure that what we offer lawyers is the best available,
the most relevant and that we’re providing what they want.”
After the 2012 spinoff, LOD started an “on-call service”,
slightly closer to what law firms provide, so more of a challenge
to the traditional law firm model where clients can use the LOD
Simon Harper, co-founder, Lawyers On Demand
A different sort of legal service
Our large corporate clients were looking for a different way of doing their business as usual work, which
just didn’t make sense for them at £300-£500 per hour
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lawyers flexibly on projects. LOD now works with more than 20
law firms, most recently DLA Piper.
This year has seen further innovation at LOD. Internationally,
the Australian merger in March with AdventBalance was
followed by the launch of Spoke in July. An online marketplace
for legal services, Spoke allows businesses or law firms seeking
short-term extra help to hire lawyers
with spare capacity.
“In the way that someone might
use Airbnb,” says Harper, “we felt
people increasingly wanted to find
out more information about the
sorts of lawyers they could work
with in a flexible way – that is
what Spoke is about. There is a
wider group of lawyers that want
to work in this way. For example,
there are quite a few barristers on
there.”
Being an innovator often means
being a disruptor. “It’s something we
enjoy doing as an organisation and
something I enjoy doing to make things
work,” says Harper. “I think it’s important
to be enjoying it and feeling like it’s making
a bit of a difference and also to feel that there’s
some fun in it too.” Although he acknowledges
that big law firms have also innovated, he adds:
“Notably, none of them have created their captive,
LOD-like businesses as separate entities. None of them
spun them out – they sit as captives within the traditional
firm.”
Harper reflects on how far LOD has come in a decade. “One of
the really useful elements of having built a business like LOD
is its agile size and structure,” he says. “What strikes me about
its management structure is that we can react fairly nimbly to
market changes as we see them. We don’t have a partnership
that we need to bring along.”
An avid fan of technology, who loves innovation, he reads
widely on the subject: “I am completely with AI and anyone who
ignores it does so at their peril, but it’s not as if the machines
will take over.”
In the way that someone might use Airbnb, we felt people wanted to find out
more information about the sorts of lawyers they
could work with in a flexible way
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Louise Pentland is general counsel at PayPal. Before that, she
was chief legal officer at Nokia from 2008 to 2014, managing
400 lawyers and other professionals in more than 30 countries
– a global team that in 2011 was named Financial Times Most
Innovative In-House Legal Team of the Year. Pentland is a
qualified solicitor in the UK and an active member of the
New York Bar. She is also passionate about innovation.
After studying law and working at a UK law firm, she
“pretty quickly found that environment was a little
suffocating: it stifled innovation and creativity”. She
did her time, “got out at the first opportunity” and
moved in-house – which, she says, was, at that time,
seen as “a softer option, lower paid and what women
do if they want to have a family”. Nevertheless, she
adds: “I was aware of all the stigmas but I was just
drawn to the business world.”
Following a spell at Avon Cosmetics in
Northampton, she was headhunted by Nokia, where
she would spend 16 years. Pentland found “the most
amazing culture when I got to Nokia”, adding: “I
realised it didn’t matter whether you were a man or
a woman. What they valued was what you did. It was
overwhelming because it was so different to what I had
ever seen or imagined in business.”
She was appointed Nokia’s chief legal officer just as the
financial crisis hit in 2008 – responsible for intellectual
property, legal and, later, for government relations. “We were
in a fairly significant downturn; it was a real challenge to keep
people motivated. We had developed some of the best industry
players but our competitors – Apple and Samsung – were getting
stronger. That’s where the best form of innovation came in, where
we had to start getting creative, because we were at serious risk
of losing people that we needed more than ever in a downturn.”
When it came to law firms, she sought out “individual lawyers
who had a good reputation, knew what I needed”, adding: “That’s
Louise Pentland, general counsel, PayPal
Taking responsibility to drive change
The contrast between where we were and where
we are was down to a handful of passionate people, who saw a
problem and wanted to fix it. That’s innovation
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to propagate the lethargy in this area, that’s not going to happen
any more. I’ve met with a lot of firms – some are trying and
some are telling me they’re trying. All the big law firms have an
incredible way to go.”
Pentland sees talent and innovation as being inextricably
linked: “Both within the company but also as applicable in the
legal field, as we think about how to develop our people. If you
develop your people and you bring in great, talented mixed teams,
then that’s what sparks innovation. Because innovation isn’t just
something that you can stick in a test tube and come up with. It’s
how you drive people to be the best and the freest they can be, to
allow them to be innovative.”
Having studied workforce innovation in several large US
corporations, including Chevron, Pentland has developed her
thinking about its role in legal services. “There’s this belief that
innovation is a big life-changing event. Some of the qualities that
I look for when I’m hiring lawyers and when I look at examples of
innovation inside – what PayPal’s done even in the time I’ve been
here – and I look at the individuals, they’re just passionate about
what we do and they want to make it better.”
Referring to the recent difficulties PayPal faced over
‘robocalling’, she says: “The contrast between where we were and
where we are was down to a handful of passionate people, who
saw a problem and wanted to fix it. That’s innovation. That’s the
quality, the je ne sais quoi of people’s character. That’s what you
need, that’s what innovators are and they never stop. I’m seeing
that right now. They’re thinking: what’s next and how do we
keep going?
“It’s contagious too. Once you get that first big wave and win,
you want more. That’s what I crave from the in-house team.
Someone who just comes to work, does their job, does a great
job, but doesn’t stop and look out of the window and look around
them, they’re not likely to be innovators. That’s life experience. A
lot of people look for Ivy League, certain law schools or they went
to ‘this’ law firm. Actually, I think people who’ve got great life
experience make great innovators.”
where I probably differ from some other general counsel because
I’m really focused on my in-house lawyers having relationships
with external lawyers but also, really picking lawyers that are
cost effective, don’t compromise on quality and also have a real
understanding of the business and the mindset of the company.”
Pentland developed what she terms “a philosophy” while at
Nokia. “I wasn’t loyal to any one law firm.” That evolved into a
more refined philosophy at PayPal: “There’s a responsibility here
to drive change...because that change isn’t going to be homegrown
in these big law firms – they’ve been at it, quite pathetically,
for years. I still hear from these firms who parade diversity
numbers of 20% or 25%, telling me all the reasons why it’s
hard, instead of focusing on striving for 50%.”
In her general counsel role at PayPal, Pentland sees her
in-house lawyers as a product of their own innovation.
“I have great diversity in my team,” she says. “Men,
women, ethnic backgrounds. We come at things
where we’re culturally raised differently, we look
at problems differently, we look at solutions
differently, and that’s the real mix that you need
for really great decision making.”
Her approach goes further: “One thing I’m very
focused on at PayPal is picking law firms that
really emulate our company’s values – diversity
and inclusion.” It used to be the case, she
suggests, that “you might have to compromise
a little bit”, adding: “There was a perception that
there was a quality deficiency outside the big law
firms. But a lot of these great diversity candidates
have left the big firms because it’s so hard to break
through, the numbers are absolutely pathetic; the
good news is they have voted with their feet.
“Many of these amazingly talented lawyers have
gone off and set up their own firms. I seek them out
because that’s where we’ll really seek to drive change in
law firms that haven’t woken up to what’s needed and what
their clients want, which is much, much, greater diversity. It’s
not about just having statistics: diversity brings better results,
end of discussion. Why wouldn’t you want that?”
In deciding on who she will partner with in the future,
Pentland reveals her thinking: “We’re in the process of contacting
our existing law firms. We’ve sent them all letters to say: we want
you to tell us what you have because we will, in future, be making
our decisions of where we put work based on firms that really do
support and advocate diversity.
“It isn’t meant to be a light switch you turn on and off; but
there are firms showing that they are willing to make changes.
It’s things like: maybe the relationship partner today is a man
but if you tell me you have a succession pipeline of three women,
or two women and a man of colour; then ok, so now I feel like
you’re working to make a change. But to think that I’m just going
There’s a responsibility here to drive change...because
that change isn’t going to be homegrown in these big
law firms
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Justin Stock is the managing partner of
Cooley’s London office, which opened in
January 2015 with 55 lawyers – the
largest ever launch by a US firm
not arising from a merger. Stock
started out at Werksmans in
Johannesburg before moving
to Freshfields Bruckhaus
Deringer in London. After
an eight-year spell with
two US firms, he joined
Cooley at the London
launch and has since
grown the office to 80
lawyers. At the British Legal
Awards in 2015, Cooley won
the London Office of the
Year award, with the judges
describing the US firm as the
“winner by a mile”.
Cooley also fares well in several
league tables. At 28th position in
Fortune’s 100 Best Companies to Work
For, it has been ranked for three years in a row
and is now the number one law firm. Its attraction for
young lawyers is reflected partly in the name: the firm has a very
cool client base – Google, Facebook, SpaceX and Uber, by way of
example. This is underpinned by a strong financial performance.
Cooley recorded a 19% increase in revenues for 2014, and 14% in
2015, making it one of the fastest growing firms on the AmLaw100.
Stock remembered this when getting the call from Cooley: “I
thought: that’s interesting. One of the last big US firms to enter
the market, very much in the tech and life sciences space. I went
along almost on a reconnaissance mission and met Joe Conroy, our
CEO. It was a very good meeting. I quickly saw his vision of what
he wanted to build in London and as a European presence, and it
very much aligned with mine.”
Because a large number of Cooley clients are in Europe, the need
to be in London was self-evident: they were sending too much work
to other law firms and the tech sector, a core focus for Cooley, was
booming in London. But Stock told Conroy: “Please realise it’s not
like opening in another big US city, where most of the companies
would have heard of us, no one in London is going to know who
on earth Cooley is.” Stock now concedes that he
was mistaken: in the UK life sciences space,
among others, the Cooley name has
significant brand recognition.
Following the meeting, Stock
presented Conroy with a business
plan for the office, outlining a
course for the next five years.
“I said it would be great if
we could end up having
around 35% of the revenue
generated by existing firm
clients, essentially US office
clients, because there’s no
point just being a silo. But at
the same time you don’t want
to be a service office.” Stock
got the job – and soon began
building the team and the brand
in London.
Significantly, the office has already
reached a figure of roughly 25% of work
being generated from US clients. “From my
point of view, 25% is a great start; a lot higher than
I expected for the first 18 months,” says Stock.
Cooley has also added more than 25 lawyers to the office since
launch: “We’ve made great strides and we’re not stopping here,” he
adds. “It is a great challenge making significant numbers of lateral
hires, both at the associate and partner level, from different
firms with different cultures. Cooley has a special culture of
collaboration and support that sets it apart from other firms. We
are all focused on maintaining and strengthening it, despite our
rapid growth.”
In a crowded field of US law firms in London – more than
100 – Cooley has a clear USP. “Something which differentiates
us from the many others,” explains Stock. It is based on “a really
powerful reputation in tech and life sciences for commercial,
business-savvy advice”.“To be able to really understand these fast-moving industries, you
have to own those spaces, to truly understand them.” Stock says
that Cooley has a genuine commitment to looking after “not just
the companies, but the whole innovation ecosystem”. As a USP, he
finds that “very exciting”. So, it would appear, do the firm’s clients.
Justin Stock, managing partner, Cooley (London)
Leading the way in tech and life sciences
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To be able to really understand these fast-moving
industries, you have to own those spaces, to truly
understand them
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and many did not like. So we adopted a model that said: we
need to work through what would normally be put off as
transition after the deal is signed.
“That meant a whole rethinking about what the
contracts were and the type of skillsets that lawyers
need to bring to such a transaction. We wanted
to work through all the details before signing
the agreement. That’s what we did and, after
the Texas Air deal, the practice throughout
the 1990s just exploded: I could not get
enough bodies to do this stuff.” Expanding
internationally, he recruited several lawyers
from a number of English law firms in order to
open a London office and that too “flourished
beyond imagination”, he says.
But innovation also came at a cost. “We
created more legal competition for ourselves
because you couldn’t always keep the contracts
behind the veil,” he says. Boutique consultants
also entered the marketplace.
Zahler’s next innovation was to fight on their
territory: “We decided if consultants were going
to compete with us, we’ll compete head on,” he
says. “So we went about recruiting a set of high level
consultants to join us. They were not a subsidiary
or a separate standalone company that we were in a
relationship with, they were us. Because of legal constraints
in the US, we couldn’t call them partners; we called them
principals [and] they were compensated at levels equivalent to
partners in the firm.”
In creating a consulting group capability within the firm,
the objective was to integrate. “Our product offering changed,”
says Zahler, “in that we explicitly said: we offer both legal and
consulting services within the framework of a law firm. It
continues today and accounts for much of the net new business.
We almost always market jointly: lawyers and consultants
offering a spectrum of professional services that are relevant to
outsourcing.”
Innovation through simplicity was integral to its success. Zahler
and his team wanted to simplify the paperwork – documents
that might be 1,000 pages in length, describing the services,
service levels, pricing methodologies, and terms and conditions
– into a straightforward visual model.
I’ve always been a geek. Technology interests me, so I read things whether they’re
relevant or not
A partner in Pillsbury’s global sourcing practice, Robert Zahler
advises international clients on a wide range of work, with
particular emphasis on sourcing – both information technology
outsourcing and business process outsourcing. The recipient
of several awards, he is recognised as a star individual by
Chambers USA.
As a young lawyer, Zahler spent four years working on the legal
fallout from the Three Mile Island accident, a partial nuclear
meltdown that happened in March 1979, in Pennsylvania – the
most significant accident ever at a US nuclear power plant. “It was
very exciting, very interesting stuff,” he says.
In the late 1980s, Zahler began representing customers in large-
scale IT outsourcing transactions. In 1990, he advised Texas Air
on “what was purported to be a billion-dollar deal over ten years”
to sell part of its airline reservation system and turn over all their
IT operations to Electronic Data Systems (EDS).
In doing the deal, explains Zahler: “We relooked at the whole
concept of outsourcing and what it meant, and we came up with a
model that was fairly different from the original EDS approach.” It
taught him to be innovative. “These types of relationships were of
sufficient value, of sufficient importance and of sufficient length,
that it was worth focusing on them as somewhat different.”
The problem, he explains, was: “Once you announced a deal
and signed the initial contract, the customer lost all leverage. You
could not back out of the transaction (that is, refuse to close if
implementation details were not to the customer’s liking), since
you had already destabilised your workforce by telling them they
were all going to transfer to this vendor, whom they all feared
The geeks shall inherit the earth...Robert Zahler, partner, global sourcing practice, Pillsbury
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“We developed a visual methodology in the form of a matrix;
we called it the ValueChain,” he says. “One axis lists slightly more
than 100 standard IT processes, each with a thoughtful description
of what is involved. The other axis is bespoke, uniquely created
for each client: a description of their organisation from an IT
perspective – by geography, or by
line of business. Having created
a matrix with two axes, the
intersection can then be coloured
in: one colour says the supplier
does it and another colour says
the client or customer does it. If
there are multiple suppliers, we
use multiple colours for each.”
As a visual tool, it then becomes
immediately comprehensible
by everyone involved. “We just
wrote some contractual wrappers
around it and that goes in as part of
the contract. Our clients love it, we
love it and to this day, we’re the only
people who do this type of thing.”
Zahler suggests the outsourcing
industry is “almost unique”, explaining:
“For the size and the number of deals that
go on, the amount of litigation with respect
to these deals is trivial, particularly in the US
where everyone sues everyone. There’s hardly any
litigation. The reason for that is because whether it is
my clients who want to sue, or the supplier who might
want to sue us, I say to them: what is it you want to achieve?
And whatever they want to achieve, we can almost always achieve
it in a negotiated settlement.”
To remain innovative 41 years after leaving Harvard Law
School, Zahler reads a lot: “I’ve always been a geek. Technology
interests me, so I read things whether they’re relevant or not.”
And he continues to do rainmaking: “I sell deals and what I’ve
focused on is what I call pathological deals – the transactions
that are in trouble, they need to be renegotiated, restructured,
something done with it. I pick and choose and I get involved
because I think I add real value.”
Our clients love [the ValueChain], we love it and
to this day, we’re the only people who do this type
of thing
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Innovation is challenging for lawyers, in large part because of
the way in which they have always conceived their jobs. In a
common law world, you can’t say anything that’s new until you
definitively prove that somebody has already said it before
– that’s called precedent. We are trained and socialised
to law by working for many years to master our craft.
We master it by being taught how the people who
did it before us did it: there is a tradition that
is handed down. I want to emphasise that
has many benefits, but it also makes it more
difficult for lawyers to adapt to change and
changing circumstances.
For many years, lawyers were insulated
from change, in part because lawyers
were in control of both the kind of market
for legal services – meaning lawyers
were the ones who set the terms around
which legal services were delivered, they
decided who could become a lawyer, they
decided what training and education that
person would have – and we were pretty
much in charge of evaluating the quality
of that service, which was evaluated in
reference to how well it conformed to the
way those kinds of services had always
been delivered in the past, according to our
own standards of excellence.
Again, lots of good has come out of that.
But much of that world is changing and it’s
changing not just in the legal world. One of the
things I would emphasise is that, in the past few
years when people have talked about transformation
of the legal profession, it has been a really inward focus
around lawyers and the legal profession.
But of course, what is happening to lawyers is just part of a
much broader set of transformations that are really changing
Keeping pace with changeProfessor David Wilkins: Lester Kissel professor of law, vice-dean for global initiatives on the legal profession, and faculty director of the Center on the Legal Profession, Harvard Law School; senior research fellow of the American Bar Foundation; fellow of the Harvard University Edmond J. Safra Foundation Center for Ethics
A summary of what Professor Wilkins told Dominic Carman in conversation about innovation relating to law firms.
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everything about our world. You could think about these in
many different ways but I pick three big-scale forces that are
really affecting us:
(1) The globalisation of economic activity and the important
shift in that activity from what you might think of as the
traditional centres of the North and the West to the new
emerging economies of the South and the East. Not completely,
not totally, but importantly.
(2) The incredible rise – the speed and the sophistication – of
information technology, which is increasing in sophistication at
an ever faster pace.
(3) The blurring together of traditional categories of
organisation and thought that we have used to define our world
– eg public vs private, global vs local, law vs business. It’s not
that these things don’t mean anything anymore but nobody
thinks they are as hermetically sealed as they once were.
All of these things are reshaping the entire world, so
why wouldn’t they reshape the legal profession? The law is a
‘lagging’, not a leading, indicator of change. Lawyers follow
bigger trends in the economy, in society and in politics. That is
what is happening now. It’s happening in things that are quite
tangible to lawyers.
First, there has been a huge reduction in what the economists
would call ‘information asymmetry’ between buyers and
sellers, meaning buyers are way more sophisticated about
what they want, when they want it and how they want it.
This allows them to take things that used to be all
bundled together by the seller – for the seller’s own
benefit – and to unbundle them and to rearrange
these things across increasing global supply chains.
We see this in manufacturing, we see it in finance, we
are now seeing it in professional services in general,
and legal services in particular.
It is being driven by increasingly sophisticated
general counsel, who have internalised the kind of
knowledge that used to only exist in law firms and
now are really driving change in the legal profession.
I say all the time that general counsel are the most
important people who are going to determine what
happens in the legal profession, at least in the corporate
sector.
Second, when you don’t know very much, you have
to evaluate the quality of things by things you can see –
often in advance. These are what I would call the ‘inputs’ of
the product, like the credentials of the person who produced
it, their reputation in the marketplace, or even how many hours
it took to produce – sound familiar?
But the more you know, the less you’re interested in the inputs
of the product and the more you’re interested in the outputs,
which we have seen transform the product markets. That’s why
people can decide, for example, they’d rather take an Uber than
a cab – because they can evaluate the quality of the service,
they read consumer reports.
The last time you went to buy a car you didn’t ask for the
credentials of the chief designer, where it was made, or how many
hours it took to produce – you drove it. And if that wasn’t good
enough, you turned to consumer reports. And if they weren’t
good enough, you looked at its test results. And if that wasn’t
good enough, you went to edmunds.com and asked: what does
somebody with my driving habits think about this car? You’re
trying to approximate the value of the car to you, not the cost of
producing it. What you find is that perhaps a Kia Optima is as
good for you as a Lamborghini or a BMW.
That kind of thinking is now coming into the world of
professional services, where people are having more access to
information and have a better ability to evaluate the quality of
outcomes. It’s not perfect and there will always be a factor of
trust, and it is still a relationship business – particularly for
important work – but the terms of the relationship and what
people are looking for and their ability to evaluate outcomes, has
now shifted much of the power and authority to the buyer, which
we see again in many other parts of our economy.I don’t think we are approaching the end of Big Law, let alone the
end of lawyers, and that is because of another phenomenon that
we often don’t spend enough time on. At the very same time all of
those things mentioned earlier are happening, all those things are
making the world much more complex, dangerous and difficult
for corporate clients. Therefore, their need for sophisticated legal
advice is increasing, not least because of cross-border transactions.
You start doing business in Nigeria, with Chinese financing
and with a business partner who has got a hedge fund in Kuwait,
and you have investors from Germany and France. That is going
to create a very complex transaction, which is then going to be
regulated by 10 or 20 or 30 different entities, all of which have
regulation that is competing and conflicting.
Finally, a couple of things about technology. You can look
at technology from an external/macro point of view at the job
It is being driven by increasingly sophisticated
general counsel, who have internalised the knowledge
that used to only exist in law firms and now are driving
change in the legal profession
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market, or you can look at it from an internal
point of view of the legal profession and
practitioners. Sticking with the macro
point of view – it turns out that
technology both reduces jobs and
creates new jobs. It has always
done that. Just look at the
computer or automation
in general. Yes, factory
automation reduces
some manual labour
jobs. It also increases
the jobs for factory
technicians, for service,
for people who create
the machines. It can
also increase demand
for people to sell new
products.
You will see a similarly
mixed effect on the legal
market. Sometimes when
people ask questions about the
employment effects of technology,
the assumption is we have too many
lawyers. That is both true and false at the
same time. We have too many lawyers chasing
the same thing – the same kind of work for the same
kind of salaries. But we know there is a huge amount of the
population completely outside of the legal system – completely
underserved by lawyers. Part of the reason why is because our
model for the delivery of legal services is way too expensive.
One of the things companies like Legal Zoom are doing, is
trying to create a delivery model that uses technology to reduce
the cost, which can increase the demand for legal services –
and that includes demand that can be satisfied by lawyers. The
lawyers may be on a different kind of pricing structure but it
doesn’t mean that it is going to eliminate the need for lawyers.
There is a fallacy around technology that it is something that
only works in one direction – to decrease jobs.
The real question is: what are the legal jobs of the future going
to be and how are people going to prepare for them? Richard
Susskind, in his various books, has tried to sketch out what some
of the future legal jobs are going to be. My guess is that there will
be an even broader range than Susskind has suggested. The real
question is: how do we train and prepare people for those jobs?
The idea that everybody should – as we currently do in the
US – go to four years of undergraduate education plus three
years of law school plus a character and fitness review and take
a Bar exam for three days, to deliver any kind of services that we
might call legal services, is crazy. There is already pressure,
and there will be continuing pressure, on the
regulatory structure around what it takes
to be a lawyer and who can become a
lawyer, or a legal service provider
that will recalibrate the supply to
the demand.
At the other pole, to
think about what does
technology mean for
lawyers. A guy affiliated
with MIT, who studied
the effect of CADCAM
on the engineering
and architecture
professions, came to
my class and he said
something I will never
forget: “Professionals
always think technology
will allow them to do
what they already do
cheaper and faster but in
fact, what technology does is
to fundamentally redefine what it
means to be a professional.”
That is what’s going to happen in the
legal profession. Yes, technology will be used
in the service of efficiency at some level. The deeper
implication is what it means to be a lawyer, what sort of skills you
need to be a good lawyer. How legal services are delivered, how
lawyers work and approach their work is going to be reshaped
as we move into the next phase of this information revolution,
which is doing the same thing, I continue to emphasise, to all of
the different parts of our world. That is, what is happening in law
is not peculiar to law. It’s what is happening to the rest of society
being filtered through the prism of law.
Professionals think technology will allow them to do what they already do cheaper and faster but in
fact, what technology does is to redefine what it means to
be a professional
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What is happening in law is not peculiar to law. It’s what is happening to the rest of society
being filtered through the prism of law
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Wang Junfeng, founding partner and global chairman, King & Wood Mallesons (China)
Unprecedented breakthrough in Asia
Wang Junfeng is the principal founding partner of King & Wood
Mallesons (China) and is currently global chairman. In 1993,
he founded King & Wood, the first Chinese law firm based on a
western model. When his firm merged with Australian-based
Mallesons Stephen Jaques in 2012, King & Wood Mallesons
became the first global law firm with headquarters in Asia. This
was followed, in 2013, by another merger with London-based SJ
Berwin. In 2016, Wang was described as “most forward thinking”
by the Financial Times when he was named overall winner in the
FT Asia-Pacific Innovative Lawyers awards.
Before setting up King & Wood, Wang worked in the legal
department of the China Council for the Promotion of International
Trade (CCPIT), which serves as the Chinese Chamber of Commerce
for international business and trade. “My position in the legal
department provided me with opportunities to communicate with
foreign counterparts and to get up to speed with international
business and legal affairs,” says Wang. He then spent five years in
the commercial department of the China Global Law Office. Set up
in 1984 under CCPIT, it was the first law firm entitled to engage in
foreign investment and international trade advice in China.
“It was apparent that China needed its own lawyers, not only
with a deep knowledge of Chinese law and practice but also familiar
with international practice,” he says. “I saw the limitations of state-
owned firms and the great potential of private practice. Founding
King & Wood was a bold move in other people’s eyes but a natural
move from my perspective.”
Wang describes the formation of King & Wood as “both inevitable
and opportune”. He explains: “By inevitable, I mean that Chinese
law firms were an inevitable outcome of China’s reform and
progression at that time; by opportune, I mean that, for me, it was
the right time for us to make the move.”
In the early 1990s, after more than a decade of economic
reform and the Open Door policy, “the market economy
started shaping up in China”, says Wang, “and foreign
capital investments gained momentum”. He continues:
“Consequently, there were increasing demands for legal
services, especially in foreign investment. Accompanying
the economic reform, China also restarted building its legal
system. However, at that time, it was still very isolated and
underdeveloped.”
He points out that there were then less than 5,000
lawyers in China and “very few could handle foreign-
related legal work”. He adds: “As foreign capital flooded into
the market, we saw huge demands for foreign investment-
related legal services.” Many international firms followed
their clients, actively setting up representative offices in Beijing
and Shanghai.
China, he says, “needed to establish its own legal profession
with qualified Chinese lawyers practising in the same way as
international firms, to accommodate market demands”. In 1993, the
Chinese Ministry of Justice announced a new policy encouraging
private partnership law firms to be established in addition to state-
owned firms: a groundbreaking reform that helped shape the
modern Chinese legal industry.
In the first few years of King & Wood, “we simply rode the tide
and grew with the Chinese economy”, he says. “China was dynamic,
with significant opportunities presenting themselves on a daily
basis. The vibrant market triggered people’s passion, which in turn
drove the country’s economic growth and rapid development.”
As a private partnership, Wang’s firm had less restrictions and
was quickly able to adapt to market demand. It expanded quickly:
“We targeted more practice areas in many key regions of China in
a very short period of time,” he explains. But the remuneration gap
with international and regional firms remained significant. “For
the first few years, our principal challenge was how to generate
more income so that we could recruit more talent,” he adds.
His experience at the Global Law Office suggested the need to
“learn from international firms, especially from their teamwork,
operational knowhow, culture of sharing and approach to risk
management”. Wang adds: “I believed that those proven systems
must have advantages.” King & Wood began to shape its remuneration
The traditional service model faces tremendous challenges in the internet age.
What we can do is to keep listening to client voices and
to align with the ever-changing market
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and management structure more on the international model.
“However,” says Wang, “the core essence of the firm remains very
Chinese, which is fundamental to the firm’s continuing success in
China.”
The firm’s securities team expanded in line with the development
of China’s capital markets. It was involved in the first round of IPOs in
mainland China and then expanded into capital markets, advising
on initial IPOs and refinancings, issuing corporate bonds, M&A of
listed companies, private equity financings and other securities-
related transactions. The team advised issuers and underwriters on
multiple domestic and cross-border securities transactions: many of
them were innovative or landmark deals. It is now one of the largest
top-tier practice groups in the Chinese market.
“We enjoyed enormous media interest after the merger with
Mallesons,” says Wang. “King & Wood followed its clients to provide
them with legal services as they established a global presence. In the
end, client demand led to our merger. Meanwhile, Mallesons
faced some challenges when competing with European and
US firms. Given the backdrop, it was natural for the two
firms to come together and build a unique global law
firm headquartered in Asia.”
The merger created “an unprecedented
breakthrough in Asian legal history,” he adds.
“Undoubtedly, it has brought more value and
what we call ‘the Power of Together’ for
everyone within the firm.” He points to the
firm’s latest Acritas global brand ranking,
up from 15th to 12th, as “an indication
that the merger is recognised as a success
in the legal industry; this is encouraging”.
Following the 2013 merger with SJ
Berwin, Wang says: “We expanded
our global platform to enhance our
competiveness, increase diversity and
share the experience. All these elements
will contribute to the firm’s future
development. Although we may encounter
some challenges as we continue to integrate
our unique east-west combination, we are
encouraged and proud to see the enormous
progress we have made. We are full of confidence
for our future.”
And the firm’s long-term strategy? Wang is
candid: “Frankly speaking, I never deliberately shaped
the firm’s future from day one. What we did was to echo
the voice of time, listen to clients’ needs and learn from the
market. As a traditional Chinese saying goes: ‘doers shall ride
the tide, but not against it’. Our firm’s development has been riding
the tide of time and responding to practical demands in the market.
“We also care about the firm’s financial strength and our people’s
morale. We want our staff to be happy while working with us, in
particular those who work hard to achieve great ideals, ensuring
that their professional achievements are recognised. We also pay
attention to those who face difficulties, by considering how to help
them go forward with us.
“Chairman Mao Zedong once said: ‘A thousand sails pass the
sunken barge, ten thousand saplings spring forth around the dying
tree.’ This poem could resonate with market players and their
development.
“In addition, given the advances in technology, it is difficult
to predict the next steps for the legal industry. Nevertheless, the
traditional service model faces tremendous challenges in the
internet age. What we can do is to keep listening to client voices
and to align with the ever-changing market.”
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Forged on the back of Dublin’s role as both a regional and global
hub for tech companies, aircraft finance and pharma businesses,
Irish lawyers have a reputation for being innovative. Among
them, Pádraig Ó Ríordáin stands out as a dealmaker,
former managing partner and a creative lawyer:
both he and his firm, Arthur Cox, have received
numerous accolades for innovation.
Ó Ríordáin qualified as a barrister in Ireland
and then studied law at Harvard. From there,
he joined a Wall Street firm before moving
to Arthur Cox, where he ran its New York
office. “I’m a big believer in just doing
the things that really interest you,” he
says, “and in which you feel you can
contribute because if you do, you do
them well and that tends to lead onto
other things.”
Returning to Ireland in 1989,
Ó Ríordáin became Arthur Cox’s
managing partner by the age of
37 – the youngest ever in the
country at that stage. “The firm
had had a very strong business
presence,” he says, “but not a very
strong management culture.” So he
set about creating one “to release
the energy of every partner across
the firm”, by changing the entire
management structure “to a fully
professionalised international firm”. It
was, he adds, “very much bespoke to suit
the culture of the firm”.
He defines the culture as “a very broad-
based leadership where you try to get the best
out of absolutely everybody in the firm” and, he
adds: “Encourage people to integrate with clients,
understand what they are doing and then take that
experience and be entrepreneurial with it, both within
the firm and externally.”
This has led to some pivotal roles for the firm in cross-border
deals. The most recent example is an innovative deal last year:
Arthur Cox acted for CRH, the Irish construction company, which
acquired certain assets from two multinational companies that
The appliance of skillsPádraig Ó Ríordáin, partner, Arthur Cox
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Ireland is a small market that punches significantly above its
weight internationally. For Arthur Cox that brings advantages, as
Ó Ríordáin explains:
If law firms want to embrace “real innovation”, which creates
value for clients, he suggests the best place to learn “is out in the
business world”. He therefore reads much more about business
and technology than about what other law firms are doing.
“It comes back to what my professor said: it’s about
understanding the world at all times. The answers lie in making
sure you’re as helpful and valuable to your clients as possible,
therefore understanding the environment that they’re living
in and the pressures they are facing. Then taking all of the
innovations in the world and seeing how you apply those from a
legal perspective.”
One example of that innovation comes with what Arthur Cox
has done for the Irish Health Service (HSE) during the past five
years. The firm combined its management expertise with its own
bespoke IT system and then applied it across the health service,
with the result that 30 law firms were all on the Arthur Cox
system when they were reporting work.
“Historically, the HSE had no central management of legal
services, or knew what [it was] spending. We developed the
entire way the HSE manages its legal service,” explains Ó
Ríordáin. “We implemented an Arthur Cox IT system across
the entirety of the health service to manage 30 different firms
at all sorts of different levels – everything from local issues
and district court hearings to childcare, up to the largest of the
corporate issues.”
He sees it as a fusion of legal expertise, management and IT
skills. “We helped reorganise the entire platform; we used our
own systems and handed the structure back five years later
in working and efficient order to the HSE. It was a very big,
innovative project and again something that law firms wouldn’t
usually do. It was recognising what skills we have: management
of legal services is one of them and so is strategy. We applied all
that to the health services here, with very strong results.”
The answers lie in being as helpful and valuable
to your clients as possible, understanding the environment
that they’re living in and the pressures they are facing
were merging and required divestments to meet competition
requirements: Lafarge S.A. and Holcim Ltd.
“A €6.5bn acquisition of assets across 11 jurisdictions. As a firm,
we led it globally,” says Ó Ríordáin. “Traditionally, a deal of that
nature would more likely be led by a magic circle firm or one of
the large American firms, but CRH asked us to do it.” This meant
dealing with with Freshfields Bruckhaus Deringer (for Holcim)
and Cleary Gottlieb (for Lafarge) on the other side of the table.
“We also had 11 firms internationally working for us in each of
the jurisdictions we were buying assets in – a unique position for
an Irish firm,” he adds.
So what did he learn from the deal? “The better you know your
client and the better you genuinely understand the detail of
what they’re thinking, what their greater context is –
their risk thresholds, their balance sheet, all of it – the
better you are able to advise as a lawyer.”
How does he think that lawyers can innovate
on behalf of clients? “One of my favourite
professors in college said that law is all about
understanding the world. As a student, I didn’t
really understand that. But later on I did. He
was absolutely right: the first thing to do is to
really understand the commercial market
place in which somebody is operating, the
environment.
“Next, know as many of the individuals
at your client as possible. Listen to what
they are saying. Always ask questions,
no matter how stupid or otherwise
they might sound, just make sure you
understand. Over time, you put together
the pieces of the puzzle. This is the
overall picture of the client – not just the
balance sheet, the technical things, the
stock price or the asset that you’re buying
– it’s the interactions of the people, their
focuses, their individual objectives.”
The spirit of innovation is something Ó
Ríordáin championed as managing partner.
“Some of it is obviously just by example,” he
says, “to be at the coalface with clients.” He has
also learnt much about bringing best commercial
practice into Arthur Cox as a director of the Paddy
Power Betfair board and as chairman of Dublin Airport
Authority.
“In those roles, I wear an active business hat – you really
experience a company from the inside.” He applies his knowledge
when doing transactions alongside younger lawyers: “Every day
I’ll ask them: why are you doing that, or why do you think that
way, or did you not consider this in terms of the commercial
realities?”
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Patrice Cappello is North America industry
lead, professional services at SAP, where
she has been since 2011. For many
years before that, she was at Deltek
in a variety of senior positions,
focused on driving success
in the professional services
Industry. SAP is used by
more than 85% of the
Global Fortune 500 and by
a significant percentage of
the AmLaw 100 firms.
“It really depends upon
how you define users,”
says Cappello. “If we look at
our customer list, it would
include almost every law firm
because Elite uses part of our
Business Object Suite – anyone
who uses Elite is a SAP customer.
But if you’re talking about a global
platform perspective, we’re gaining
significant market share. Market awareness
is happening: that SAP has got solutions that will
fit the legal industry. It’s been a concerted effort to develop
that awareness.”
As a company, SAP lives by innovation. For its customers, this
means technology that not only works but is also easy to use. “From
the core foundation of finance, billing and customer relationship
management,” says Cappello, “we’ve evolved the product so that
the user experience is much more intuitive because you don’t
want your fee earners spending a week in training.”
“We’ve continued to enhance our products to be available on
any device at any time, without needing to have separate software
to render certain information on an iPad versus other different
tablets, for example, or different types of mobile phones. The
technology is very advanced. From a reporting and analytics
perspective, we’ve added predictive capabilities that put firms
on a different level competitively: to be able to apply predictive
principles rather than basing decisions on tribal knowledge or
intuition.”
SAP goes to market by industry and Cappello serves professional
services, including law firms. She sees her role partly as an
educator and talks to existing and potential
customers about “changes we’re seeing in
the industry, how firms are responding
to external pressures, and how
they are deploying technology to
support their business goals and
objectives”.
She highlights “so much
change occurring”, with law
firms needing to respond.
“There is a lot of potential for
a global player like SAP to
enable these firms to grow.
Because clients are more
sophisticated, expectations
are higher. Law firms are
responding to that, realising
that technology is a huge
enabler. Historically, many firms
haven’t invested internally; whereas
today clients expect transparency,
alternative fee arrangements and a
consistent experience. Nevertheless, firms are
evolving, believing technology is an enabler; it’s
becoming a bigger part of their strategy going forward.”
In using SAP solutions, the benefits of integrated financial
management and billing systems allow a firm with multiple
offices, particularly in multiple jurisdictions, to: “Act as one firm,
to be consistent, to manage globally but also manage in the local
geographies, from a time capture perspective, standardisation of
the billing process, and automation of time-consuming activities
– all with full transparency to the client.”
Cappello adds: “Furthermore, integrating our full suite of talent
management and client engagement solutions to that platform
allows firms to operate their business in a seamless fashion and
empowers the firms to operate in a real-time environment.”Last year, Baker & McKenzie was the first global law firm to
adopt the latest version of SAP. Other prominent clients include
Linklaters and Norton Rose Fulbright. “But,” explains Cappello,
“it’s often more a question of how complex the law firm is rather
than its size. If you look at the professional services firms in
general that use SAP, close to 80% are $500m annual revenue
and under.”
Technology as an enablerPatrice Cappello, North America industry lead, professional services, SAP
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Firms are evolving, believing technology is an
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It should be noted that Patrice Cappello of SAP, included in
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and small, is also the provider of systems to Fulcrum GT.
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