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(Confirmed minutes)

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Sai Kung District Council

Traffic and Transport Committee

Minutes of the Sixth Meeting in 2020

Date: 12 November 2020 (Friday)

Time: 9:30 a.m.

Venue: Conference Room of the Sai Kung District Council

Present From To

Mr LAM Siu-chung, Frankie (Chairman) 9:30 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr YU Tsun-ning (Vice-Chairman) 9:30 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr CHAN Wai-lit 9:40 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr CHAN Yiu-chor, Andrew 9:30 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr CHAU Yin-ming, Francis, BBS, MH 9:30 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr CHENG Chung-man 9:30 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr CHEUNG Chin-pang, Edwin 9:30 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr CHEUNG Mei-hung, Chris 9:50 a.m. 3:25 p.m.

Mr CHEUNG Wai-chiu 9:40 a.m. 12:49 p.m.

Mr CHOI Ming-hei 9:30 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr CHUN Hoi-shing 9:44 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr CHUNG Kam-lun 9:45 a.m. 5:02 p.m.

Mr FAN Kwok-wai, Gary 9:30 a.m. 5:00 p.m.

Mr FUNG Kwan-on 9:30 a.m. 3:05 p.m.

Mr HO Wai-hong, Stanley 9:47 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr LAI Ming-chak 9:30 a.m. 10:35 a.m.

Mr LAI Wai-tong 9:30 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr LAU Kai-hong 3:45 p.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr LEE Ka-yui 9:40 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr LEE Yin-ho, Ryan 9:41 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Ms LEUNG Hin-yan 9:30 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr LEUNG Li 9:30 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr LUI Man-kwong 9:30 a.m. 5:54 p.m.

Mr OR Yiu-lam, Ricky 9:30 a.m. 1:00 p.m.

Mr TSE Ching-fung 9:30 a.m. 5:42 p.m.

Ms WONG Cheuk-nga, Valerie 10:15 a.m. 3:30 p.m.

Mr YIP Brandon Kenneth 9:30 a.m. 11:15 a.m.

Ms LAM Yu-ching, Linda (Secretary) Executive Officer (District Council)2,

Sai Kung District Office

In Attendance

Mr NG Wai Chung, Justin Assistant District Officer (Sai Kung)2, Sai Kung District

Office

Ms PANG Wai, Penny Liaison Officer i/c (Youth Development/Tseung Kwan

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O(C)), Sai Kung District Office

Mr KWOK Tun Yiu, Donald Executive Assistant (District Council)10, Sai Kung

District Office

Ms LEE Ka-in, Charis Senior Transport Officer/Sai Kung, Transport Department

Mr WAN Yuen-hung, Eddie Senior Transport Officer/Public Pier, Transport

Department

Mr MA Chi-hung, Daniel Engineer/Pedestrian Improvements, Transport Department

Mr WANG Ran, Thomas Engineer/Sai Kung, Transport Department

Mr LAU Kit Shing, Jason Engineer/Special Duties 1, Transport Department

Mr NG Kin-fung District Engineer/Tseung Kwan O, Highways Department

Mr KO Lo-wang, Raymond Chief Inspector of Police Tseung Kwan O District

Operations, Hong Kong Police Force

Mr YUNG Kin-sik, Ron Assistant Divisional Commander (Operations), Sai Kung

Division, Hong Kong Police Force

Mr AU Kwong-yui OC District Traffic Team (Tseung Kwan O), Hong Kong

Police Force

Mr SHEK Chi-man Sub-unit Commander (Operations Support) (Sai Kung

Division), Hong Kong Police Force

Mr TANG Lai-yin, Ricky Senior Engineer/ Walkability 4, Highways Department

Ms CHAN Fung-ping, Inness Engineer 9/ Walkability, Highways Department

Mr CHEUNG Lai-shun, Benedict Senior Engineer/ Walkability 2, Highways Department

Mr YEUNG Chin-ho, Daniel Engineer 6/ Walkability, Highways Department

Mr MAK Shing-pong, Douglas Manager (Operations), Kowloon Motor Bus Company

(1933) Limited

Ms WONG Po-wan, Christine Manager (Planning and Development), Kowloon Motor

Bus Company (1933) Limited

Mr TAM Tsun-hei,Jeff Manager (Public Affairs), Kowloon Motor Bus Company

(1933) Limited

Mr LAW Yiu-wah, Rayson

Senior Officer, Planning and Development, Kowloon

Motor Bus Company (1933) Limited

Ms CHUNG Pui-yi, Penny Chief Public Affairs Officer, New World First Bus

Services Limited/Citybus Limited

Mr CHAN Yu-kong, Hugo Operations Officer, New World First Bus Services Limited

Ms WAI Yin-mei, Stephanie Assistant Public Relations Manager – External Affairs,

MTR Corporation Limited

Absent

Ms CHAN Ka-lam, Debby

Welcome Remarks

The Chairman welcomed all Members and representatives of government departments and

organisations to the sixth meeting of the Traffic and Transport Committee (TTC) in 2020. On

behalf of TTC, he thanked Mr TSE Leung-yau, District Engineer/Sai Kung of Highways

Department (HyD), and Mr WONG Ka-lam, Matthew, Engineer/Special Duties 2 of Transport

Department (TD), who had been on transfer for their contribution to the district. Other

representatives of government departments attending the meeting temporarily took up the duties

of Mr TSE and Mr WONG in addition to their own.

For agenda

item II(A)

For agenda

item II(B)

For agenda

items III,

IV and V

For agenda

item VII

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2. The Chairman said Ms Debby CHAN had informed him and the Secretariat by email before

the meeting that she would not be able to attend the meeting today, and the justification was ‘I will

not attend the meeting in protest of no response from government departments to questions

submitted by Members on time that constitutes dereliction of duty’. There being no objection

from Members, the Chairman declared that the application for absence from meeting was approved

in accordance with Order 51(1) of the Sai Kung District Council Standing Orders (the Standing

Orders). Besides, a total of 16 motions and 5 questions had been received and 2 motions had

been referred for discussion at the meeting.

3. Mr Francis CHAU asked the Secretary whether there were many items to which

government departments could not respond in time.

4. The Secretary said some written replies had been received yesterday and had been uploaded

onto the Sai Kung District Council (SKDC) website in the evening. Members had also been

notified by email. However, some papers from government departments could not be submitted

to the Secretariat in time before the final email notification, which had to be submitted by tabling

at the meeting instead.

5. Ms LEUNG Hin-yan said the motions she had moved did not involve a huge technical

issue, but the department eventually needed to submit the papers by tabling at the meeting. The

final email notification had been issued by the Secretariat at 9:55 p.m. last evening. She enquired

about the reasons for TD to submit the papers by tabling at the meeting and asked why only the

response to her motions had to be submitted in this way.

6. Mr Eddie WAN, Senior Transport Officer/Public Pier of TD, apologised that two replies on

Sai Kung rural areas had to be submitted by tabling at the meeting. He expressed that as the

replies had to undergo an internal vetting process and the content involved the duties of colleagues

from other divisions, it needed time for consolidation and hence preparation of the replies took

longer time.

7. Mr Gary FAN enquired whether TD had any technical reasons for the delay in preparing

the papers. Members had submitted the motions in a timely manner according to the Standing

Orders, allowing sufficient time for government departments to prepare the replies. Government

departments should respond on time, otherwise, it would be difficult for SKDC to perform its

functions. He asked the department whether overtime work was needed, which in effect caused

the Secretariat staff having had to work overtime. The problem involved use of public money

and administrative arrangements. In addition, he expressed concern about whether the Secretary

needed to work overtime and if similar incidents had happened in the past.

8. Mr LUI Man-kwong said even though the meeting duration of the last-term TTC was longer,

the situation of submitting a number of papers for tabling at the meeting had not occurred. In

contrast, the number of papers tabled at the meeting this year amounted to more than ten. He

asked TD whether the situation was due to staff changes and whether inter-departmental co-

operation was needed to obtain information in the response.

9. Ms LEUNG Hin-yan suggested that TD specifically state the difficulties encountered. If

the department could not give an explanation, then it should co-ordinate with Members regarding

the submission time of the motion papers, so that the meeting could be conducted in an efficient

manner.

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10. Mr Francis CHAU said the papers on questions submitted were more than that in the last

term, but the number of motions was about the same. He asked whether the department could

pledge to submit their replies on time if Members submitted their papers earlier.

11. The Secretary said most of the motions and questions from Members would be passed to

the standing representatives of government departments on the next working day after the deadline

for submission of papers. If the content involved non-standing government departments of TTC,

the Secretariat would pass the papers to them after reviewing the content as early as possible.

12. Ms Charis LEE, Senior Transport Officer/Sai Kung of TD, responded that TD noted

Members’ views and apologised for the late submission of papers. Papers for future meetings

would be submitted as soon as possible.

13. The Chairman said after the Secretary had received the motions or questions from Members,

they had been passed to various departments on the next day. He hoped that the replies from TD

would not evade questions from Members to avoid complicating the discussion of agenda items.

The duration of TTC meetings was quite long and he hoped that TD and other departments would

give substantive replies and appropriate responses to address the enquiries from Members. Site

inspections would be conducted in respect of the works items to be discussed at this meeting in

the hope of tackling the works matters.

14. Ms LEUNG Hin-yan said if the department could not prepare the reply ten clear working

days before the meeting, it should raise and review the matter as early as possible. Moreover, the

papers submitted for tabling at the meeting were related to her on each occasion, she suspected

that she had been targeted by the department.

15. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that she noted the views of Ms LEUNG Hin-yan and

thanked the assistance of the Secretariat.

I. Confirmation of Minutes of the 5th Traffic and Transport Committee Meeting held on

18 September 2020

16. The Chairman said the Secretariat had not received any proposed amendment before the

meeting. There being no other amendment proposed at the meeting, the Chairman declared that

the captioned minutes were confirmed.

II. New Items

(A) Proposed Covered Walkway between Tseung Kwan O Hospital and Nearby Bus/Minibus

Stops

(SKDC(TTC) Paper No. 345/20)

17. The Chairman welcomed:

Mr Ricky TANG, Senior Engineer/Walkability 4 of TD

Ms Inness CHAN, Engineer 9/Walkability of TD

Mr David CHAN, Senior Engineer 5/Special Duties of HyD

18. Ms Inness CHAN, Engineer 9/Walkability of TD, introduced the works project based on

the presentation slides.

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19. Mr Andrew CHAN expressed his support for the captioned works project in principle.

Before the meeting, he had preliminarily solicited residents’ views online that the walkway should

not be limited to the distance between the bus stop and the hospital. It should be extended to the

entire community. It was suggested that the covered walkway should be connected from Tseung

Kwan O Hospital (TKOH) to Sai Kung Tseung Kwan O Government Complex for more

convenient access to the shopping mall and connection between MTR Hang Hau Station and

TKOH. Despite the possible increase in construction cost, the project could offer greater

convenience to the public and improve the pedestrian link system in the area. Furthermore, he

suggested extending the covers to the signalised pedestrian crossing near the main entrance of

TKOH for the convenience of the public to access the crossing near Ming Tak Estate. He

reminded the departments that there were a few facilities managed by minibus companies at the

location. The departments should take into account these facilities in addition to relocation of

the bus regulator kiosk.

20. Mr Ricky OR expressed his support for the captioned works project in principle. Yet, it

was mentioned in the paper that the cost of installing covers was within $30 million. He

considered the cover was too costly. He enquired whether information on the design and

construction materials could be provided.

21. Mr CHENG Chung-man said that he had conducted site inspection with Mr Andrew CHAN

earlier and opined that the plan to install covers at the location looked like an ideal design on the

map, but in fact, very few residents used the walkway. He suggested installing covers connecting

TKOH with the pedestrian subway or the pedestrian crossing near the main entrance of the hospital.

He hoped that TD could allocate its resources on locations with higher pedestrian flow and

considered that the current design was not very cost-effective.

22. Mr Ricky TANG, Senior Engineer/Walkability 4 of TD, gave a consolidated response as

follows:

The objective of the project was to tie in with the initiative of installing covers at

pedestrian walkways connecting public hospitals for improving walking environment

as announced in the 2019 Policy Address. Hence, TD suggested installing covers at

the pedestrian walkways between TKOH and the bus/minibus stops nearby.

Members’ wish for extending the cover was noted. Nonetheless, extending the

covers to MTR Hang Hau Station would result in a walking distance exceeding the

standard distance of about 500 metres, which was an acceptable walking distance for

pedestrians according to the existing design standards. Moreover, if the covers were

extended to MTR Hang Hau Station, trees and planters along the way might have to

be removed for widening the footpath to accommodate the pedestrian flow. Due

to the above reasons, TD would not consider the extension design at the moment.

TD had consulted the Hospital Authority (HA) which supported for the proposal and

considered that it could cater for the needs of patients, staff and visitors to shelter

from wind and rain.

Members’ suggestions of extending the covers to the pedestrian crossing at Po Ning

Road were noted, but the location was part of the emergency vehicular access. The

department had to take into account the impact on the use of the emergency vehicular

access after installation of the covers at the location. Even if the covers would not

affect the use of the vehicular access, TD still had to study with HyD the underground

utilities and other facilities at the location. The department would consider

extension of the covers to the road section after confirming that the project was

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preliminarily found to be technically feasible.

23. Mr David CHAN, Senior Engineer 5/Special Duties of HyD, gave a consolidated response

as follows:

The construction cost of the project was preliminarily estimated to be less than $30

million, which did not imply that the project had to incur $30 million. Further

estimates of the construction cost would be made after the detailed design was

completed.

After obtaining the support from SKDC for the proposed alignment of the project, the

next step was to engage a consultant to prepare the design and conduct further studies,

including cost estimate. Currently, the detailed design plan was not available for

Members’ reference, and it would be submitted to SKDC in a timely manner after

completing the design.

Since the detailed design plan was not available, information on the construction

materials could not be provided for the time being. The consultant engaged by the

Government would choose suitable materials in accordance with the existing

guidelines.

24. The Chairman enquired whether the covers could be extended to the exit of the pedestrian

subway.

25. Mr Ricky TANG of TD responded that the current proposal was to provide covers on public

walkways connecting TKOH and nearby public transport facilities according to the policy. If the

covers were extended to Po Ning Road or Pui Shing Road near MTR Hang Hau Station, removal

of some planters might be required to widen the footpath at these two roads. Besides, underground

utilities had to be assessed. Moreover, the covered walkway in the above proposal had exceeded

the acceptable walking distance to pedestrians. In the light of the above reasons, TD would not

consider extension of covers to the above road sections at the present stage.

26. Mr Brandon YIP opposed the captioned works project. He hoped that Members would

ponder over the value of rain shelters brought to the community and opined that the construction

costs of such facilities were generally high. They would also occupy some public space and

affect the streetscape upon completion. He further pointed out that many facilities with SKDC

logo, like the flower pots in Tiu Keng Leng, had obstructed public space. Expenses of future

maintenance and management had to be borne as well. He suggested that the proposal should be

prudently considered. It was fine to bring umbrellas or wear raincoats on rainy days.

27. Mr LEE Ka-yui opined that the needs of disabled persons visiting the hospital should be

considered as they might not be able to carry umbrellas. Provision of rain shelters would

facilitate them to leave the hospital. If Mr Brandon YIP considered that the flower pots in Tiu

Keng Leng were a waste of resources, he might suggest removing them and reallocating the

resources to other areas for providing community facilities.

28. Mr Brandon YIP said he was illustrating the issue of mentality rather than criticising an

individual works project. He commented that even if covers were installed at the hospital

entrance, it would still be difficult to cater for the needs of sick or injured persons throughout each

segment of their journey, and there might still be a chance for them to be drenched by rain.

29. Mr LAI Ming-chak expressed that although rain shelters could not solve all problems,

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having these facilities is better than nothing. He believed the Government would not extend the

covers to bus/minibus stops for the reason of not subsidising private companies. Hence,

Members should contemplate how to assist in enhancing the project. He did not object to the

captioned works project and hoped that TD would follow up on measures to enhance the walking

experience, such as minibus stop cover or discussion with MTR Corporation Limited (MTRCL)

on connection of covers. TD should liaise with relevant government departments or

organisations to optimise the design with an aim of enhancing the entire walking experience.

30. Mr CHUNG Kam-lun said it was worth support if the works project could progress

gradually. He agreed that linking different stops could make it convenient for the public to take

different public transport. He suggested according priority to providing covers to connect stops

of public transport in the district, such as at minibus stops and closing the gaps between covers

and minibus stops, so that the project could benefit residents in the district who used the bus

terminus.

31. Mr Francis CHAU said TKOH would have another phase of expansion works. After

completion of expansion works, the bus stop would be provided adjacent to the extension of the

hospital. As such, the problem mentioned just now would not occur in principle. Given that

the project was implemented in line with the Policy Address, there was not much space for

adjustments. He therefore opined that the works project should be carried out in a simple and

affordable way. He agreed with the suggestion made by Mr CHUNG Kam-lun on closing the

gaps between covers and minibus stops.

32. Mr LUI Man-kwong said there were disconnected sections along covered walkways

connecting shopping malls and housing estates. Provided that there is no land issue, the

department should examine how to link the disconnected sections of covers even if the scale of

extensions was small.

33. Mr Stanley HO said the provision of walkway covers should be holistic. Facilities for

disabled persons often lacked comprehensive planning. He considered that people with

disabilities needed to use the facilities and hoped that all areas on the periphery of the hospital

would be considered in future planning of TKOH expansion.

34. Mr LAI Wai-tong said the captioned works project connected the stops of New World First

Bus (NWFB) route no. 98A and a small number of bus routes, but it could not connect the stop of

green minibus (GMB) route no. 108A and the opposite bus stops of route nos. 91M and 792M at

Ming Tak Estate. Besides, he enquired whether TD had learnt about the progress of TKOH

expansion from HA. He was worried that the covers had to be demolished a few years after

completion. He suggested that TD and bus companies maintain communication as some parts of

Hang Hau (North) Bus Terminus were used for parking buses. He mentioned that TD currently

adopted the design of LOHAS Park Station Public Transport Interchange and suggested TD to

consider whether alteration works or upgrade of facilities of Hang Hau (North) Bus Terminus

would take place in the future to tie in with the operation of bus companies. He opined that TD

should give holistic consideration instead of reporting on a single works project, otherwise, it

would be difficult to see a full picture. It was suggested that photomontage be generated for the

next presentation and reference be made to the planning of covered walkways in Singapore.

35. Mr LEUNG Li expressed his support for the captioned works project, but as a disconnected

part of the covered walkway was located at the minibus stop of route no. 108A, he hoped that the

department would consider installing a cover. Since there was a ramp near the location of the

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proposed cover, it was anticipated that wheelchair users would benefit from the facility after

completion. He suggested reserving more space for them to use the facility and further suggested

arranging site inspection of the works location to understand the difficulties in installation of

covers at the location of the emergency vehicular access and study whether alternative proposals

were available.

36. Mr Ricky TANG of TD gave a consolidated response as follows:

The policy of installation of covers at walkways of public hospitals mentioned in the

Policy Address aimed to provide a pleasant walking environment for hospital visitors

through installation of covers, thereby facilitating them to walk to nearby public

transport facilities comfortably.

TD maintained a close communication with HA and only briefed SKDC of the

proposal after obtaining support from HA. Although HA could not provide

information of the TKOH expansion at the moment, HA had noted the details of the

proposed walkway cover.

TD would keep liaising with bus and minibus companies throughout different stages

of the project, from preliminary planning to preparation of detailed design. TD had

communicated with relevant companies before briefing SKDC, so as to cope with

their operational needs.

Regarding the suggestion of installing covers at the minibus stop, the location was

mainly used as a waiting area, whereas the objective of installing covers at walkways

was to provide a comfortable environment for the public to walk to the stops.

Hence, it was not in line with the policy principle if a cover was installed at the

minibus waiting area. TD would continue to communicate with minibus companies

and informing them of the suggestion.

Apart from considering whether the suggestion was in line with the policy, one should

also note that the underground utilities and the width of the waiting area would affect

the technical feasibility and TD would consider the suggestion based on technical

feasibility of the provision of the covers. TD noted the relevant suggestions.

37. The Chairman concluded that only Mr Brandon YIP opposed the captioned works proposal

and held an opinion different from other Members. Some Members looked forward to a site

inspection with TD, and he asked the Secretariat to arrange the site inspection.

(B) Proposed Regulatory Framework and Site Trial Arrangement of Electric Mobility Devices


Extempore motion: If systematic deficiencies in the findings of the Site Trials of Electric

Mobility Devices Application (Tseung Kwan O) are resulted from a low number of registered

participants, the Transport Department should let members of the Traffic and Transport

Committee who are driving licence holders borrow its electric mobility devices for

subsequent enrolment in the site trial

(Revised extempore motion: If systematic deficiencies in the findings of the Site Trials of

Electric Mobility Devices Application (Tseung Kwan O) are resulted from a low number of

registered participants, the Transport Department should let residents in Sai Kung district

borrow its electric mobility devices for subsequent enrolment in the site trial)

38. The Chairman welcomed:

Mr Benedict CHEUNG, Senior Engineer/Walkability 2 of TD

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Mr Daniel YEUNG, Engineer 6/Walkability of TD

39. Mr Benedict CHEUNG, Senior Engineer/Walkability 2 of TD, briefed Members of the

proposed regulatory framework and site trial arrangement of electric mobility devices (EMDs)

based on the presentation slides.

40. As an item under ‘Matters Arising (Others)’ was related to the above item and there being

no objection from Members, the Chairman declared that the items would be discussed together.

Enquiry about the policy on matters related to electric mobility devices

(Paragraphs 586 to 590 of the minutes of the last meeting)

41. Mr Gary FAN said the Government and Members had received public views that transport

policy should keep abreast of the times. He would like to obtain information on TD’s study on

the practices in other jurisdictions/cities that could serve as reference in deciding whether to

support policy implementation. It would only be a meaningful study if the cities for reference

shared a similar situation as in Hong Kong, including knowing about their relevant legislation,

ancillary facilities, etc. He commented that the area, time and duration of the site trial made it

difficult for the Government to grasp substantial information for deciding if relaxation of the

existing policy would be feasible in the future. Therefore, he suggested expanding the pilot area

and increasing the number of days and time periods (including evening) of the site trial. The

public’s acceptance level of motorised personal mobility devices (mPMDs) hinged on whether

they knew about and could identify the devices. Testing of different devices in the same trial

might result in inadequate data due to the short trial period. He enquired if large signs would be

displayed to inform the public on the days of the site trial.

42. Mr Ricky OR asked TD whether it would regulate the sale of mPMDs. If there was

regulation of their use but not their sale, then TD could not protect public safety or further specify

the purposes of the devices.

43. Mr Stanley HO said electric wheelchairs was a necessity for disabled persons and they

might need to borrow another electric wheelchair if their electric wheelchair was under repair.

He therefore hoped that TD would issue licence to users. He also expressed concern about

whether the public was allowed to use mPMDs on private roads and considered that protective

equipment was essential. On the other hand, he doubted if accurate data for study could be

obtained during the trial in daytime and suggested that TD make slight adjustments to the trial.

44. Mr CHENG Chung-man enquired whether TD would announce the results after the trial

and what criteria would be adopted for analysis. Many places in Tseung Kwan O were not

connected and a lot of people preferred to travel by EMDs; hence, he hoped that TD would report

the results to SKDC after the trial.

45. Mr LUI Man-kwong opined that the three-day trial period was too short and questioned

whether sufficient data could be obtained. He also doubted whether participants of the trial

owned EMDs. If the trial time period was extended, those who exercised in the night-time could

be included. The trial route would pass places like schools and residential areas, he hoped that

large signs would be displayed during the trial period as in during the shared cycling path trial

period earlier, so that the public would be informed of the trial in progress. He suggested TD

study permission to use electric wheelchairs on cycle tracks.

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46. Ms Valerie WONG considered the three-day trial period too short. She enquired whether

TD had estimated the number of participants and the performance indicators. She knew that the

department would engage a consultant to conduct the study and analysis, but she asked if the data

and information would be submitted to SKDC. Lastly, she opined that the trial route of

1.4 kilometres was too short and the journey time was only about 10 minutes, which would affect

the trial results.

47. Mr Edwin CHEUNG enquired the minimum or maximum number of participants of the

trial scheme and the purpose of setting the limit. From his point of view, TD had grasped

information on the specifications of EMDs, so he enquired the type of data to be gathered during

the trial and the criteria to be adopted. He mentioned that given the dim environment from 10

p.m. to 11 p.m., there would be different results and varying views if the trial was conducted during

that time period. He suggested extending the trial time period or including the time period in the

second trial. Besides, participants were required to be holders of full valid driving license and to

take out the third party liability insurance. He asked if it implied that users of EMDs had to obtain

a license after implementation of the policy.

48. Mr Benedict CHEUNG of TD gave a consolidated response as follows:

Panel paper submitted to the Legislative Council (LegCo) provided information

regarding the jurisdictions/cities studied including Shanghai in the Mainland,

Singapore, Tokyo in Japan, Seoul in South Korea, Queensland and Victoria in

Australia, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Barcelona in Spain, Washington

DC and New York State in the United States. After the meeting, he would submit

the papers to Members via the Secretariat.

[Post-meeting note: TD provided the link via the Secretariat for downloading the

paper from the LegCo website.]

Bearing in mind that the scheme was implemented on a trial basis, TD would also

conduct trial in the Hong Kong Science Park in addition to Tseung Kwan O, making

the trial last for about seven days in total. The trial in Tseung Kwan O aimed to gain

understanding of the interaction between EMD users and resident living in the

residential area where a comprehensive cycle track network is present.

As the sky got dark at around 6 p.m. in January, TD considered that the trial could

collect data of using EMDs in a dim environment. The bicycle traffic volume in

Tseung Kwan O was high in the afternoon hours on Saturdays and Sundays, therefore,

the busy traffic was taken into consideration during the trial from 4 p.m. to 6 p.m.

Survey and video analytics would be carried out during the trial. TD considered that

the proposed trial arrangements could obtain sufficient data, but it also depended on

the data collected after the trial to assess whether another site trial was needed.

During the trial, data concerning the traffic volume and speed of bicycles and mPMDs

on the trial section as well as the separation between different devices would be

collected and analysed, for understanding their interaction. Target respondents of

the survey included trial participants, bicycle users and pedestrians in order to

understand their views on the use of EMDs on cycle tracks.

Temporary traffic signs would be erected at different cycle track locations during the

trial and notice signs would be provided at pedestrian crossings. Ambassadors

would be present at the scene to provide assistance and inform residents and cycle

track users that a trial was being conducted.

Regarding matters related to regulation of sale, registration and licensing, TD would

conduct a detailed study on legislation of the regulatory framework after completing

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the trial and hoped to submit the regulatory framework to LegCo near the end of 2021.

The consultant would conduct analysis for the site trial findings in February 2021 and

expected to report the results in mid-2021.

TD did not recommend the use of motorised personal mobility aids or wheelchairs on

cycle tracks as cycle tracks were not entirely barrier-free accesses. TD suggested

using those devices on footways.

TD would allocate the quotas according to specific time periods and dates depending

on the response rate in enrolment. The preliminary plan was to allocate about 30 to

40 participants in each time period to ensure the traffic flow would not exceed its

capacity for safety reasons.

Under the existing legislation, EMDs were caught by the definition of motor vehicle.

Hence, participants were required to possess full valid driving licence and to take out

the third party liability insurance. TD would assist in arranging the insurance for

participants. Eligible participants were required to possess full valid driving

licence, a EMD complying with the trial specifications and relevant operating

experience for enrolment. There was no direct connection between legislation of

the regulatory framework and the trial requirements. TD would further examine on

the matters such as licensing and registration requirements for EMD users at a later

stage.

49. Mr Francis CHAU likened the trial to a fun day. He enquired about the current situation

including which type of mPMD was subject to regulation, whether it was illegal to use mPMDs

on pedestrian ways and cycle tracks, and which ordinance would be invoked for prosecution. He

opined that the Government should request shop operators selling EMDs to give proper advice to

customers. Besides, it might also give rise to the public assumption that the Government might

allow the use of EMDs shortly after the trial implementation, and he worried about the appearance

of a large number of devices on the trial road sections even before the Government implemented

the policy in the future.

50. Mr LAI Wai-tong said a new restaurant was opened at Monterey near the cycle track on

Tong Chun Street, a queue was formed on the pedestrian way during peak hours. In addition,

DON DON DONKI store at Monterey Place was also opened, which made many members of the

public needed to walk on the cycle track. He suggested that TD review the trial road sections and

resolve the problem. As stated on the website of the trial scheme, the trial was planned to be

carried out from 29 to 31 January from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. He asked why the trial time period

reported at the meeting differed from the information on the website. As the department would

not provide any EMDs, he suggested that TD procure the devices for participants’ use or even

invite SKDC Members’ participation. It was hoped that the department would explain how data

would be obtained in this trial.

51. Mr Ricky OR enquired whether the law enforcement department would intercept EMD

users for production of the permit during the trial. Security guards of housing estates would

generally intercept cyclists entering the precincts of the estates, but in fact it was difficult to catch

up their speed during escape. Therefore, he queried how the law enforcement department would

control the situation on that day. He believed that this trial might even attract more people to use

EMDs and enquired how TD should handle the future situation where more EMDs would be used

in the community, but their use was not permitted under the existing legislation.

52. Mr CHUNG Kam-lun hoped that TD would provide details of the subsequent assessment

of the trial. Many Members were worried that the trial might not reflect the demand for newly-

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emerged modes of transport and the trial area did not correspond with the positioning of the mode

of transport. There was a need to understand the public’s demand and ancillary arrangements for

the mode of transport instead of drawing conclusions from a three-day trial.

53. The Chairman said normally road signs were displayed on carriageways and the speed limit

of the trial road section was 25 kilometres per hour. He asked TD whether the vehicle speed

would be monitored on the day of the trial and reminded that speeding of EMDs might occur in

the night-time, he therefore suggested installing the CCTV system to monitor the situation.

Moreover, people participating in this trial had to bring their own EMD, but it would become an

illegal vehicle after the trial. He asked TD how to solve this problem.

54. Mr LEE Ka-yui said this trial could not reflect the public’s demand for EMDs and the

reasons for legalisation. The trial could only reflect usage of the road section, but the

participation threshold was rather high. He expressed concern about the number of participants

and a small number of participants did not imply a low demand for using EMDs among the public.

From his point of view, the future policy direction should be legalising the use of EMDs and

relaxing relevant regulations. EMDs had existed for a long period of time, enforcement of

additional regulations would inhibit convenience and innovation. Based on the principle of

relaxing restrictions, he considered that regulation by means of licensing should not be introduced

in the future, but he recommended EMD users to wear protective gear, which was similar to using

bicycles as a transport means.

55. Mr CHUN Hoi-shing asked TD whether it could provide EMDs for leasing out to

participants during the trial.

56. Mr Gary FAN moved an extempore motion that read: ‘If systematic deficiencies in the

findings of the Site Trials of Electric Mobility Devices Application (Tseung Kwan O) are resulted

from a low number of registered participants, the Transport Department should let members of the

Traffic and Transport Committee who are driving licence holders borrow its electric mobility

devices for subsequent enrolment in the site trial’. He considered the trial period too short, area

too small and number of days too few, which made it difficult for the Government to determine

whether the policy should be relaxed in future. He hoped that SKDC could remedy the

inadequacies of the trial. The small number of participants could hardly provide substantive data

and people who did not own an EMD would not purchase one to join the trial. It required a

considerable number of participants to test whether EMDs could be compatible with the existing

cycle tracks and the trial should be conducted during hours with high pedestrian flow. Hence, he

moved the above extempore motion.

57. Messrs CHAN Wai-lit and CHENG Chung-man seconded the extempore motion.

58. There being no objection from Members, the Chairman declared that the extempore motion

was included in the agenda.

59. Mr Francis CHAU moved an amended motion that read: ‘If systematic deficiencies in the

findings of the Site Trials of Electric Mobility Devices Application (Tseung Kwan O) are resulted

from a low number of registered participants, the Transport Department should let residents of Sai

Kung district borrow its electric mobility devices for subsequent enrolment in the site trial’.

Messrs Stanley HO, CHENG Chung-man, Ryan LEE, Ms Valerie WONG, and Mr CHEUNG Wai-

chiu seconded the amended motion.

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60. There being no amendment or objection from Members, the Chairman declared that the

amended motion was carried.

61. Mr Benedict CHEUNG of TD gave a consolidated response as follows:

The trial dates and time announced on the website were provided for members of the

public. Target participants who were holders of driving licence and also users and

owners of EMDs were invited to join the trial.

The actual trial time was an hour longer than that announced on the website because

special arrangement would be made during the time period for more experienced

EMD users to undergo the trial under dim environment, including testing the front

and rear lights of EMDs and assessing suitability of using EMDs in a dim

environment.

The trial was only open for public participation for three days and it was a one-off

arrangement, which was different from other pilot programmes. TD therefore did

not encourage the public to purchase EMDs just for participating in the trial and

participants should possess the experience of using EMDs.

Under the existing legislation, it was illegal to use EMDs, which were regarded as

motor vehicles. Use of motor vehicles on road must be licensed. As the construction

and safety equipment of EMDs did not meet the requirements of TD; TD normally

would not license or register EMDs under the existing legislation. Whereas electric

wheelchairs were considered as medical devices which are generally accepted by the

public, the department only control their operating speed and weight to ensure safety.

The trial was only allowed along the red line shown in the presentation slide during

specified hours and it would be illegal to use EMDs outside the specified area and

hours. On the days of the trial, TD would assign ambassadors to make appeal on

the site and would provide enough signs and banners in the vicinity.

As it aimed to conduct the trial under normal conditions, TD did not make special

arrangements for law enforcement. Nevertheless, TD had informed the law

enforcement department that a trial would be conducted at the trial cycle track section

on trial days, and only participants who wore helmets and reflective clothing provided

by TD and used an EMD for which a permit had been issued were allowed to use

EMDs on the trial cycle track section. If law enforcement officers discovered that

individuals except the participants stated above used EMDs on the road sections

illegally, law enforcement actions would be taken.

The trial would be conducted on Friday, Saturday and Sunday covering a weekday,

weekend, daytime and peak traffic hours in the dusk on Saturday and Sunday. The

trial cycle track section covered various riding condition such as junction with

pedestrian crossings, upslope and downslope sections, for TD to collect data.

Through using video analytics, TD could analyse EMDs’ speed, traffic and their

separation with bicycles.

If the data collected was found insufficient, TD would consider enhancing the trial

arrangements.

TD emphasised that the trial was a one-off arrangement that lasted for three days only

and participants were required to possess the experience of using EMDs. It would

not incentivise the public to purchase EMDs for participating in the trial.

The speed limit of mPMDs on the trial cycle track sections was 25 kilometres per

hour, which was about the same as the average cycling speed of approximately 20

kilometres per hour. TD would carry out real-time speed monitoring on trial days.

If speeding was found, warning would be given; and if it occurred again, the

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participant would be asked to leave the site.

TD had set up an inter-departmental task group including representatives of HyD, the

Electrical and Mechanical Services Department, Hong Kong Police Force (HKPF),

Department of Health, Customs and Excise Department and Department of Justice to

explore the detailed regulatory framework of EMDs, including sale and usage

aspects.

Hiring of EMDs for use during the site trial could not ensure that participants were

familiar with using EMDs and would pose danger to other cycle track users at the

trial cycle track sections.

If there was keen participation from the public, TD would consider conducting the

trial on 1 February 2021 as well, but a three-day trial should be sufficient to obtain

relevant data.

62. Ms LEUNG Hin-yan thought the trial scheme was unreasonable. TD did not recommend

participants to purchase EMDs but requested participants to have relevant experience, which

meant that TD assumed participants had experience of using EMDs in foreign places or often used

them illegally in Hong Kong. She doubted the correlation between having driving licence and

using EMDs with knowledge of the road condition, and Hong Kong did not have the examination

for using EMDs. She opined that if the Government truly intended to address the issue and put

in place measures for public convenience, it should consider implementing a more holistic scheme.

63. Mr Benedict CHEUNG of TD responded that there was a need to review whether EMDs

should be categorised as motor vehicles under the current legislation. Legislative amendments

would be studied after the trial with a view to properly regulate EMDs. Since EMDs were motor

vehicles under the existing legislation, participants of the trial scheme were required to be holders

of valid full driving licence of private car or motorcycle and to be covered by third party liability

insurance. The reason for requiring users to have relevant experience was to ensure safety of

other cycle track users. TD would handle this requirement in a flexible manner and might request

participants to demonstrate how to use EMDs on the site. TD had clearly stated that the trial was

a one-off arrangement and would not allow the public to use mPMDs on the road sections before

any legislative amendments.

64. The Chairman asked TD to continue to follow up the matter and report the trial progress to

TTC in a timely manner. The above item would be deleted at the next meeting and the extempore

motion carried would be discussed at the next meeting.

III. Major changes in public transportation services launched in Sai Kung District from

1 September 2020 to 31 October 2020

(Paragraph 42 of the minutes of the last meeting)


65. Members noted the paper.

66. Mr Chris CHEUNG enquired when the toilets at the LOHAS Park Station Public Transport

Interchange (LOHAS Park Station PTI) would be open for public use. He reflected that some

residents thought there were not enough signs at the interchange and looked forward to

improvement to be made by TD.

67. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that based on the information provided by the Food and

Environmental Hygiene Department (FEHD), the toilets had been open for use and follow-up work

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on the matter of not having enough signs was underway.

68. Mr CHENG Chung-man enquired about the occupancy rates of Kowloon Motor Bus (KMB)

route no. 98 and NWFB route no. 797. If the patronage was insufficient, the bus companies might

consider re-routing the routes via Tiu Keng Leng or Hang Hau.

69. Mr LAI Wai-tong said TD had submitted information on the occupancy rates of bus

services between Tseung Kwan O to Kwun Tong at the meeting. He pointed out that the mobile

service signal at the LOHAS Park Station PTI was not satisfactory and hoped that TD would

contact the mobile network operators to follow up the matter and enhance the telecommunications

equipment at the location. Besides, the LOHAS Park Station PTI was rather dusty, he suggested

FEHD enhance the cleaning work.

70. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that the department was communicating with the mobile

network operators to follow up the matter of poor mobile service signal. TD would refer the

matter of cleaning work to FEHD for further handling and ask FEHD to increase the cleaning

frequency.

71. Mr CHENG Chung-man enquired whether TD considered the occupancy rate of NWFB

route no. 797 disappointing and if there was any room for improvement.

72. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that operation of KMB route no. 98 and NWFB route no.

797 was at a preliminary stage. TD would like to allow more time to review the operation of the

routes and conduct a detailed review of the services after the commissioning of Tseung Kwan O

Tunnel Bus-Bus Interchange (BBI) (Kowloon bound). Adjustments would be made where

necessary.

73. Mr TSE Ching-fung was aware that the passenger volume of KMB route no. 98 and NWFB

route no. 797 was high during morning peak hours. He suggested that a stop of route no. 98 be

provided at the LOHAS Park Station PTI to offer more choices for passengers and divert the

passenger flow.

74. The Chairman said Members had expressed concern about the occupancy rates of bus

routes. As a question under ‘Items related to bus service’ was relevant to the above matter and

there being no objection from Members, the Chairman declared that the items would be discussed

together.

Enquiry about the occupancy rates of bus routes between Tseung Kwan O and Kwun

Tong

(SKDC(TTC) Paper No. 361/20 and paper on table (3))

75. The Chairman said the question was raised by Mr LAI Wai-tong.

76. Members noted the written reply from TD.

77. Ms Charis LEE of TD noted Members’ suggestion of providing a stop of KMB route no.

98 at the LOHAS Park Station PTI and mentioned that TD would carry out a comprehensive review

of bus services after the commissioning of the BBI (Kowloon bound).

78. Mr LAI Wai-tong enquired how to calculate the average occupancy rate. The operation

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of the route resumed normal on 21 August 2020 and he asked TD how to calculate the average

occupancy rate of 32% for KMB route no. 296A from 7 a.m. to 10 a.m. Based on his observations,

the epidemic did not have a huge impact on the route. He pointed out that the reply did not

explain the use of interchange concessions and hoped that TD would give a supplementary

response.

79. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that the average occupancy rate was calculated by

comparing the total occupancy rate of trips during the time period on the day of survey and the

occupancy rate during the time period concerned.

80. Ms Christine WONG, Manager (Planning and Development), KMB, responded that route

no. 98 only operated for more than a month and the numbers of passengers interchanging for the

directions of LOHAS Park, Tseung Kwan O South, Hang Hau and Po Lam were similar.

81. Ms Penny CHUNG, Chief Public Affairs Officer of New World First Bus Services

Limited/Citybus Limited (NWFB/Citybus), responded that after the commissioning of the BBI,

NWFB/Citybus had been closely monitoring the occupancy rates of all bus routes and the riding

and interchange patterns of passengers. NWFB/Citybus would continue to monitor the data and

the changes in operation, passenger demand, interchange pattern of various routes after the

commissioning of the BBI (Kowloon bound).

82. Mr LEUNG Li enquired whether the occupancy rate of NWFB route no. 797 recorded at

the BBI indicated in the reply referred to the occupancy rate at the bus stop or that of the entire

route. Judging from the data, the occupancy rate of route no. 797 was rather low. He doubted

if the route could compete with KMB route no. 98 and suggested that NWFB/Citybus provide a

stop in Tiu Keng Leng. He also asked the number of passengers who had benefited from the

interchange concessions.

83. Mr Chris CHEUNG enquired how TD determined the time for conducting the survey.

KMB route no. 98 and NWFB route no. 797 started operation on 2 October 2020 and TD conducted

the survey on 12 October 2020. He pointed out that residents might not know the operation of

new bus routes. Route no. 797 and KMB route no. 296A shared some similarities since the

occupancy rate was only a few percentage during some hours. He suspected that it was due to

the traffic congestion at Tseung Kwan O Tunnel. He hoped that TD would provide data to

account for the occupancy rate of bus routes operating via Tseung Kwan O Tunnel in order to

explore ways to solve traffic congestion.

84. Mr CHUN Hoi-shing suggested shortening the time unit in the survey to every hour or

every half an hour for data calculation in order to generate more indicative and accurate data. The

survey time of KMB route no. 93A was from 6:30 a.m. to 9:30 a.m., and the data could not reflect

information concerning the busiest period from 7:30 a.m. to 8 a.m.

85. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that TD would carry out the survey on site subject to the

actual needs and circumstances, hence, there was no specified survey time. Regarding the

proposal to re-route NWFB route no. 797, TD would conduct a review in due course after the

commissioning of the BBI (Kowloon bound), and it would also take longer time to review the

operation of the route. TD noted the views of Members. She welcomed Members to enquire

the occupancy rate of each hour of individual routes after the meeting.

86. Ms Christine WONG of KMB responded that KMB conducted survey on service frequency

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and reported the findings to TD on a regular basis for monitoring the operation of various routes

by bus companies. Data submitted by bus companies was incorporated in the reply from TD. If

needed, KMB would co-ordinate with TD regarding individual surveys and would submit relevant

data to TTC via TD.

87. Ms Penny CHUNG of NWFB/Citybus responded that NWFB/Citybus conducted

patronage survey on site regularly and calculated the occupancy rate by using Octopus data, which

served as reference in understanding the operation and passenger demand of various routes.

NWFB/Citybus noted Members’ suggestion on the routing of NWFB route no. 797 and would

further discuss the matter after the commissioning of the BBI (Kowloon bound). NWFB/Citybus

noted Members’ suggestions on bus services between Tseung Kwan O and other districts and

would take the initiative to study the issues.

88. Ms Charis LEE of TD gave supplementary information on the survey of NWFB route no.

797. TD deployed staff to monitor on site the occupancy rates of buses arriving at the BBI, the

data was therefore the occupancy rate recorded at the BBI and not that of the entire route.

89. Mr Francis CHAU said the occupancy rate survey and Members’ requests concerning KMB

route no. 98 and NWFB route no. 797 expressed at the meeting reflected the need for

rationalisation and review of bus and minibus routes in the whole district. Although TD and the

bus companies expressed that a review should only be carried out after the commissioning of the

BBI (Kowloon bound), he did not agree that the review should only commence by then. He

hoped that TD and the bus companies would submit proposals to TTC for discussion before the

commissioning of the BBI (Kowloon bound), so as to discuss the possibilities of rationalising bus

routes by area approach and offering more discount for short-haul trips to the BBI. TD also

needed to take account of the additional pedestrian flow arising from the public housing in Lam

Tin, Sau Mau Ping and Anderson Road after the commissioning of the BBI (Kowloon bound).

90. Mr CHUN Hoi-shing said the paper did not indicate the occupancy rates of Kowloon bound

trips of KMB route no. 98 and NWFB route no. 797 and hoped that TD would provide relevant

information in the future. He enquired whether the information submitted by the bus companies

had been incorporated in the paper submitted by TD this time.

91. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that TD would carry out the occupancy rate survey for

Kowloon-bound trips of KMB route no. 98 and NWFB route no. 797. The report could be

submitted to TTC if needed. The data on occupancy rates was collected through an on-site survey

conducted by TD and the data provided by the bus companies was related to interchange

concessions.

92. Mr LAI Wai-tong hoped that TD would provide supplementary information on data

submitted by the bus companies after the meeting. He opined that the information from the bus

companies could record the occupancy rates more accurately. He suggested that TD consolidate

the operational data of bus companies for Members’ reference and understanding if there was a

pattern that indicated passengers changing buses at specific locations before reaching their

destinations. Besides, TD would carry out an on-site survey on KMB route nos. 93M and 98A

and NWFB route no. 796S. He hoped that related information would be submitted to TTC in due

course and TD would provide supplementary information on the survey findings of Kowloon-

bound trips of KMB route no. 98 and NWFB route no. 797 as well as on the use of interchange

concessions.

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93. The Chairman said many routes passing Kwun Tong Road were operated by KMB and

passengers might change to KMB route no. 98 at the location. If passengers changed to NWFB

route no. 797, they needed to change buses at the BBI. Based on his observations at the BBI

during evening peak hours, there were not more than five passengers changing to route no. 797 at

the BBI from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. He hoped that the situation would improve after the commissioning

of the BBI (Kowloon bound). From his point of view, the advantage of KMB lay in the

centralised operation of routes to and from Kowloon, while NWFB/Citybus mainly operated routes

on Hong Kong Island. He suggested that TD offer inter-company interchange concessions,

otherwise, it was difficult for NWFB/Citybus to continue operating their routes in the district.

94. The Chairman requested TD, NWFB/Citybus and KMB to follow up Members’ views.

IV. Items related to other public transport services

(A) Matters Arising (Other public transport services)

(1) Progress on the follow up of other public transport services by the Transport

Department in response to the 5th meeting of TTC in 2020




(2) Request the Transport Department to study the introduction of ferry, “water taxi” or

other waterborne transport services from Sai Kung and Tseung Kwan O to Hong

Kong Island and vice versa




97. With the consent of Members, the Chairman declared that the above item would be deleted

at the next meeting.

(3) Enquiry about the problems of the transport interchange (minibus stop and taxi stand)

in Ocean Shores Phase 3



98. Members noted the written reply from the Lands Department (LandsD).



(4) Request the Transport Department to consult the respective District Council before

planning transport routes (including GMB and franchised bus routes) and the tendering

of franchise renewal in order to meet residents’ needs and improve the operational

circumstances


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100. With the consent of Members, the Chairman said the above item would be deleted at the

next meeting.

(5) Enquiry about the current utilisation of Sai Kung (North) Public Transport

Interchange

Further enquiry about the existing operation of Sai Kung North Public Transport

Interchange




102. Ms LEUNG Hin-yan said at the last meeting, she had enquired about the data on taxis at

Sai Kung (North) Public Transport Interchange (PTI) and hoped that TD would submit such data.

Furthermore, she could not understand why TD had failed to submit the reply on time despite

repetition of matters mentioned at the last meeting in its reply. She asked TD about the progress

of consulting persons concerned on relocation of the stop of residents’ service route no. NR29 to

Sai Kung (North) PTI, as well as the time of expiry and renewal of the licence for the Contract

Hire Service. She hoped that the stops of KMB route nos. 92R and 96R would be relocated to

Sai Kung (North) PTI as soon as possible to alleviate traffic congestion on Fuk Man Road.

103. Mr Eddie WAN of TD gave a consolidated response as follows:

The morning special trips of GMB route nos. 101M and 1A departed from Sai Kung

(North) PTI, but the passenger volume was relatively low, with only about 20

passengers during morning peak hours. In view of the situation, the department

would try to accommodate more transport services having regard to the current

utilisation of Sai Kung (North) PTI.

TD had consulted the operator of residents’ service route no. NR29 on relocation of

the stop to Sai Kung (North) PTI. However, the operator had reflected that the stop

at Chan Man Street had been in use for many years, and passengers were used to

boarding at the location concerned. Hence, the operator did not agree with the

suggestion on relocation. TD understood the special traffic conditions in Sai Kung

Town Centre at weekends and on holidays and was currently discussing with the

operator the feasibility of relocating the stop to Sai Kung (North) PTI on those days.

It was anticipated that the operator’s views would be received in three weeks.

He noted the views on relocating the stops of KMB route nos. 92R and 96R to Sai

Kung (North) PTI and would discuss the views with KMB.

104. Ms LEUNG Hin-yan agreed with the proposal to relocate the stops of residents’ service

route no. NR29 and KMB route nos. 92R and 96R to Sai Kung (North) PTI at weekends and on

holidays. She stressed that the operation of Contract Hire Service was approved by TD.

Therefore, where TD deemed necessary, it could request the operator to relocate the stop. She

once again enquired when the Contract Hire Service for residents’ service route no. NR29 would

be renewed. Regarding the stops of KMB route nos. 92R and 96R, she opined that the congestion

problem on Fuk Man Road could not be resolved if the stops were not relocated. She therefore

hoped that TD would respond to the matter directly.

105. Mr CHENG Chung-man considered that TD’s reply lacked sincerity and hoped that the

department would supplement more information in its next reply.

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106. Mr LAI Wai-tong said he had conducted a site inspection at Sai Kung (North) PTI. It took

only five minutes to walk from Sai Kung PTI to Sai Kung (North) PTI, and a clear sign was

provided next to the police station of Sai Kung Division to show pedestrians how to go to Sai Kung

(North) PTI on foot. However, Sai Kung (North) PTI was used for parking minibuses. He

asked TD about the purpose of setting up Sai Kung (North) PTI and pointed out that TD had earlier

been criticised by the Audit Commission for relevant matters. He suggested that TD arrange for

regular utilisation of Sai Kung (North) PTI by buses and minibuses. He also opined that TD

should tackle the problem of illegal parking of taxis.

107. Mr Eddie WAN of TD gave a consolidated response as follows:

Contract Hire Service would last for a year, and approval for the operation of residents’

service route no. NR29 would expire in the following year. If TD could reach a

consensus with the operator on stop relocation, the stop could be relocated before

expiry of the licence.

The location of the existing stop had been suggested by the operator. After assessing

whether the location was suitable for picking up and dropping off passengers and

taking into account the traffic management at the location concerned, TD had

considered the location suitable and therefore permitted the setting up of the stop

thereat. Yet, the location of the stop could still be reviewed.

TD should consider the views of both operators and passengers. At present, routes

serving Sai Kung (North) PTI included KMB route nos. 92R and 96R, which operated

at weekends and on holidays, and GMB route nos. 101M and 1A, which operated

during peak hours. However, statistics revealed that passengers generally did not

welcome the arrangement of boarding at Sai Kung (North) PTI.

108. Mr Douglas MAK, Manager (Operations) of KMB, responded that if Fuk Man Road was free

from the problem of illegal parking, bus would be the most effective road transport service. Field

staff of KMB often reported illegal parking cases at Fuk Man Road during weekends.

109. Ms Christine WONG of KMB understood Members’ concern about the utilisation of Sai

Kung (North) PTI. To divert passengers during weekends and holidays, KMB had introduced

two routes operating via Sai Kung North, among which the service of KMB route no. 99R

terminated at Sai Kung (North) PTI. While designating Sai Kung (North) PTI as the terminus,

KMB had catered for the needs of the district and TD as far as possible, with a view to making full

use of the terminus. KMB was pleased to cooperate with TD and other transport service

providers to study ways to further improve the problem.

110. The Chairman concluded that it was feasible to relocate the stops to Sai Kung (North) PTI,

which was only five minutes’ walk away from Sai Kung PTI. He believed that members of the

public who needed to take the routes concerned would not mind walking a little more. In his

view, it made no sense to use Sai Kung (North) PTI for parking minibuses. Therefore, he asked

TD and KMB to re-examine the matter.

111. Mr LAI Wai-tong said the stops of KMB route nos. 92R and 99R were provided at both

Sai Kung (North) PTI and Sai Kung PTI. He enquired whether KMB would cancel the stops at

Sai Kung PTI on a trial basis for one to two months to observe whether there were any changes in

passenger volume.

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112. The Chairman said the above item would be retained and referred to the Working Group

on Bus and Minibus Routes in Sai Kung District for follow-up work.

(B) One question raised by Members (Other public transport services)

(1) Transport and fares for Sai Kung outlying islands

(SKDC(TTC) Paper No. 352/20 and Paper on Table (1))

113. The Chairman said the question was raised by Ms Debby CHAN. As Ms Debby CHAN

was absent from the meeting in protest of dereliction of duty by government departments, the

Chairman decided to make a special arrangement to postpone discussion of the question to the

next meeting.

V. Items related to bus service

114. As a report item was relevant to bus service and there being no objection from Members,

the Chairman declared that the following report would be presented first.

Progress Report of the Working Group on Bus and Minibus Routes in Sai Kung

District


115. Mr LAI Wai-tong (Convenor of the Working Group on Bus and Minibus Routes in Sai

Kung District) reported that the Working Group had expressed views on the Bus Route Planning

Programme 2021-2022 of Sai Kung District and had agreed that the views would be reflected to

TD in writing. The Working Group had also discussed several issues related to bus and minibus

routes, which would be followed up after TD had submitted its replies.

116. There being no objection from Members, the Chairman declared that the above report was

endorsed.

(A) The 8 motions raised by Members (Bus)

117. As motions (1) and (2) were related and there being no objection from Members, the

Chairman declared that the two items would be discussed together.

(1) Request the Transport Department and New World First Bus to increase the bus

frequency of route no. 798A

(SKDC(TTC) Paper Nos. 353/20, 394/20 and 414/20)

118. The Chairman said the motion was moved by Mr CHOI Ming-hei and seconded by he

himself, Messrs Gary FAN, LUI Man-kwong, CHENG Chung-man and Francis CHAU.

119. Members noted the written replies from TD and NWFB.

(2) Request for extending New World First Bus route nos. 798A and 798B to The Chinese

University of Hong Kong and Hong Kong Science Park

(SKDC(TTC) Paper Nos. 354/20, 395/20 and Paper on Table (2))

120. The Chairman said the motion was moved by Mr CHUN Hoi-shing and seconded by he

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himself, Messrs CHUNG Kam-lun, LEUNG Li, LAI Ming-chak, LUI Man-kwong, Gary FAN and

LAI Wai-tong.


122. Mr CHOI Ming-hei said it was mentioned in the written replies that the journey time of

NWFB route no. 798A heading towards Tseung Kwan O had increased after the route had been re-

routed via Hang Hau. He expressed discontent that the statement did not accord with papers

submitted earlier and NWFB had not increased the bus frequency to meet passenger demand. He

opined that the occupancy rates, i.e. 43% and 60%, were not low, hence it was necessary to increase

the frequency of the route.

123. Mr CHUN Hoi-shing understood that passengers could arrive at The Chinese University

of Hong Kong (CUHK) and Hong Kong Science Park (HKSP) by changing buses, but residents

wished to reach the destination in a faster and more convenient way. Given the room for increase

in the occupancy rates, extension of the bus routes could optimise the use of resources and increase

the patronage.

124. Mr LAI Wai-tong hoped that the patronage of NWFB route nos. 798A and 798B would be

enhanced through extension of the two routes to CUHK and HKSP. Some CUHK students had

reflected to him that it took more time and money to travel to CUHK by making interchange. He

pointed out that the routes could be altered to head towards HKSP after entering Ma Liu Shui PTI,

which could provide convenience for passengers visiting those places.

125. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that TD noted Members’ views. Extension of the routes

would increase the journey time, which deviated from the current positioning of those routes.

Nevertheless, TD would still closely monitor changes in passenger demand and discuss the

feasibility of service adjustments with NWFB in a timely manner.

126. Ms Penny CHUNG of NWFB/Citybus responded that NWFB route no. 798A, on its journey

to Sha Tin, would not operate via Yan King Road, but would be diverted to go direct to Hang Hau via

Po Lam Road North. There would not be much difference in the journey time before and after

adjustment. Meanwhile, NWFB route no. 798A, on its journey to Tseung Kwan O, would be diverted

via Hang Hau, and the journey time would be extended for about five minutes. Traffic congestion

at Tseung Kwan O Tunnel and Kwun Tong Bypass would also increase the journey time. She

continued that in response to Mr CHENG Chung-man’s suggestion for setting up a stop at Chung Wa

Road, NWFB had submitted an application to TD.


motion was passed and requested TD and NWFB to follow up on the views of Members.

(3) Request for extending Kowloon Motor Bus route no. 88 to Po Lam Road North


128. The Chairman said the motion was moved by the Vice-Chairman and seconded by he

himself, Messrs LAI Wai-tong and CHOI Ming-hei.

129. Members noted the written replies from TD and KMB.

130. The Vice-Chairman asked TD why KMB route no. 88 had not been extended to increase

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the patronage and why the addition of stops would result in a lower frequency of the route.

131. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that TD noted Members’ views. At present, the public

transport network provided bus services from Po Lam Road and Po Lam Road North to Sha Tin

and Tai Wai. Therefore, TD could not support the suggestion for extending KMB route no. 88.

132. Ms Christine WONG of KMB replied that KMB route no. 88 currently operated via Po Tat

Estate at Po Lam Road. She believed that the journey time would not increase drastically if

additional stops were set up at Po Lam Road North. To serve residents near Po Lam Road North,

KMB kept an open mind on the suggestion and might discuss the feasibility of adjusting existing

services with TD.

133. The Chairman said the Vice-Chairman hoped to assist residents who lived on the hill,

including Hong Sing Garden, Ma Yau Tong Village and Tsui Lam Estate. He hoped that TD and

KMB would continue to follow up the matter, respond positively to the suggestion and extend the

bus route to cover Tseung Kwan O.

134. The Vice-Chairman considered it feasible to increase the journey time for about five

minutes to serve residents in Tsui Lam Estate. He hoped that TD would give careful

consideration to the suggestion.


motion was passed and requested TD and KMB to follow up on the views of Members.

(4) Request the Transport Department to introduce bus/minibus routes operating via

Tiu Keng Leng


136. The Chairman said the motion was moved by Mr Brandon YIP and seconded by Mr CHAN

Wai-lit.

137. Members noted the written replies from TD and NWFB/Citybus.

138. Mr CHAN Wai-lit asked whether KMB was interested in introducing the routes concerned.

He had conducted a survey earlier, and most interviewees supported the addition of bus routes

from Tiu Keng Leng to Ngau Tau Kok and Kwun Tong. He opined that KMB should introduce

the proposed routes for connecting with other KMB routes at the interchange in Kwun Tong. He

suggested that KMB should consider introducing the above bus routes, invite Members to join site

inspections, and conduct trial run on the routes.

139. Mr LEUNG Li agreed with the motion. He hoped that direct bus and minibus services to

Kwun Tong district would be provided in Tiu Keng Leng. He disagreed with the statement in

TD’s reply that residents could travel to Kwun Tong by MTR. The public were in need of direct

services, which was a demand that had long existed but had been deliberately ignored by TD and

bus companies. KMB had mentioned earlier that it would study re-routing KMB route no. 296A

via Tiu Keng Leng provided that the adjustment would not affect existing bus services. He hoped

that KMB would continue to follow up the matter. He also hoped that TD would offer assistance

to the bus company, for example, by giving approval for pilot schemes or arranging for special

trips.

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140. Mr LAI Wai-tong hoped that the demand of residents in Tseung Kwan O South, including

Po Yap Road and Chi Shin Street, would be satisfied. He pointed out that Tseung Kwan O South

and Tiu Keng Leng were adjacent to each other, and both areas were not served by KMB tunnel

routes. TD had suggested that members of the public take NWFB route no. 290X for interchange.

Despite the same amount of interchange concessions for passengers taking route no. 290X to Hung

Ngok House for interchange and those taking KMB route no. 296A to Millennium City for

interchange, there was a great difference between the full fares of the two routes. Besides, as

some locations were covered solely by KMB but not NWFB/Citybus, he hoped that the suggestion

would be implemented as soon as possible.

141. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that TD noted Members’ views. With the

commissioning of Tseung Kwan O Tunnel BBI (Tseung Kwan O-bound) in October 2020, TD

would pay attention to its operation and the changes in passenger demand in Tseung Kwan O.

Where necessary, TD would discuss the feasibility of adjusting existing bus services with bus

companies.

142. Ms Christine WONG of KMB responded that KMB offered interchange concessions for

passengers changing buses at Tseung Kwan O Tunnel BBI and Kwun Tong Road. She reiterated

that KMB was willing to introduce bus routes on top of route no. 296A to cater for the needs of

residents in Tseung Kwan O South and Tiu Keng Leng, so that they could arrive at the Kwun Tong

Road Interchange directly.

143. Ms Penny CHUNG of NWFB/Citybus responded that NWFB/Citybus currently operated

several routes that served residents in Tiu Keng Leng, and the companies had also noted that

residents in Tseung Kwan O South and Tiu Keng Leng needed bus services to Kowloon East.

NWFB/Citybus would review the bus network in Tseung Kwan O on a regular basis and actively

study different proposals with a view to providing more comprehensive bus services.

144. Mr TSE Ching-fung said NWFB route no. 796S in Tseung Kwan O South headed for Kwun

Tong and Ngau Tau Kok and operated via Tiu Keng Leng. With the completion of many new

residential buildings in Tseung Kwan O South, there was a keen demand for travelling to and from

Kwun Tong district. He hoped that route no. 796S would provide whole-day services. He also

hoped that TD would urge NWFB/Citybus to follow up the suggestion.

145. Mr CHAN Wai-lit said the opinion that NWFB route no. 796S should provide whole-day

services had been voiced years ago. He deemed that NWFB/Citybus had no intention to change

and therefore hoped that TD and KMB would work in tandem to follow up the matter.

146. Mr LAI Wai-tong said at the third TTC meeting, a Member had moved a motion, which

read: “Request for introducing a bus route between Tseung Kwan O South and Kwun Tong to

connect with routes serving various districts”. As mentioned at that meeting, only four departures

of NWFB route no. 796S were provided before dawn and in the early morning, together with the

lack of inter-company interchange concessions, the competitiveness of NWFB route no. 796S had

been substantially weakened. Passengers changing to KMB route no. 296A at Kwun Tong Town

Centre would only be charged $0.9, but route no. 796S could hardly offer similar concessions.

Given that LOHAS Park was served by KMB route no. 98 and NWFB route no. 797 at the same

time, he reckoned that TD should treat residents in each area fairly. While no inter-company

interchange discounts could be offered, TD should provide an additional option for residents to

use the Kwun Tong bus interchange network.

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147. Mr LEUNG Li said in 2015, the frequency of NWFB route no. 796S had been reduced to

four departures, while the interchange discount with NWFB route no. 797M had also been

cancelled. He considered that NWFB/Citybus was not keen on operating the route. He

enquired about TD’s attitude towards the proposal if KMB could operate a new route. He also

enquired whether the proposal had all along been delayed because TD did not allow KMB to run

a new route in the operating areas of NWFB/Citybus. He added that during TTC meetings of the

last term, KMB had expressed interest in rationalising KMB route no. 296A for provision of bus

services from Tiu Keng Leng to Kwun Tong.

148. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that TD encouraged bus companies to offer fare

concessions, including inter-company interchange concessions. TD noted Members’ views on

the introduction of bus/minibus routes operating via Tiu Keng Leng as well as the population

changes in the whole area. Therefore, TD would study various adjustment proposals in

implementing the Bus Route Planning Programme.

149. Mr TSE Ching-fung said Kwun Tong was the urban area closest to Tseung Kwan O, and

the lack of direct bus services from Tseung Kwan O South and Tiu Keng Leng to Kwun Tong was

therefore unreasonable. If TD categorised Tseung Kwan O South and Tiu Keng Leng as

operating areas of NWFB/Citybus, the bus companies should then introduce whole-day direct bus

services to Kwun Tong.


motion was carried and requested TD to follow up on the views of Members.

(5) Request for introducing bus services between Tseung Kwan O and Yuen Long via

Tai Lam Tunnel

(SKDC(TTC) Paper Nos. 357/20, 398/20, 399/20 and 417/20)

151. The Chairman said the motion was moved by the Vice-Chairman and seconded by Mr LAI

Wai-tong.

152. Members noted the written replies from TD, KMB and NWFB/Citybus.

153. The Vice-Chairman said he had once proposed that the suggested bus routes should be

destined for Pat Heung. Furthermore, as travelling from Tseung Kwan O to Yuen Long involved

complicated interchange arrangements, he hoped that TD would carefully consider the suggestion.

154. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that TD noted Members’ views and encouraged

passengers to follow the existing interchange arrangements for Kwun Tong Road. Where

necessary, TD would study the feasibility of adjusting the existing service arrangements with bus

companies.

155. Mr LAI Wai-tong said the New Territories West was undergoing various developments,

and TD had conducted tendering exercise for new transport routes in Tuen Mun. He hoped that

direct bus service between Tseung Kwan O and Tai Lam Tunnel Interchange would be provided.

As KMB route nos. 269C and 268C could not cater for residents of New Development Areas

(NDAs), he hoped that the problems would be tackled altogether through the introduction of

services running between Tseung Kwan O and the New Territories West. Introduction of bus

services as proposed in the motion did not contradict the existing services. Even if a few bus

routes overlapped, synergy could still be achieved.

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156. Mr LUI Man-kwong opined that even if the suggested bus routes served NDAs, they would

still need to operate via Castle Peak Road – Yuen Long in order to meet the needs of residents.

Moreover, there had been special bus services from Tseung Kwan O to other areas in the past. If

bus companies deemed that the patronage would be low, special trips could first be operated on a

trial basis; if the occupancy rate was satisfactory, the service frequency could be strengthened.

157. Mr Chris CHEUNG supported the motion. He reminded TD that Tseung Kwan O – Lam

Tin Tunnel would be completed in 2021 and proposed that studies should be conducted for the bus

routes concerned to avoid traffic congestion problem. Furthermore, TD should take into account

the future population growth when conducting assessments on patronage of the bus routes. Given

that various residential projects in the area would be completed successively, he hoped that the

introduction of new bus routes would cater for the needs of residents in LOHAS Park.

158. The Chairman said even if new bus routes were introduced, passengers would still have to

interchange at the Kwun Tong Road Interchange. KMB provided more than 50 bus routes at

Kwun Tong Road for passengers to make interchange, but it had led to traffic congestion thereat.

In the last term, TTC had proposed the introduction of bus services between Tseung Kwan O

Tunnel and Tuen Mun and had also obtained support from the Tuen Mun District Council. Given

the serious traffic congestion at Kwun Tong Road, he hoped that the new routes would operate via

Tseung Kwan O BBI for passengers to make interchange. He also supported the introductory of

more new routes by NWFB/Citybus.

159. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that TD noted Members’ expectation on introducing bus

services between Tseung Kwan O and various locations in Yuen Long as well as their comments

on trials on the new routes. TD noted the traffic congestion problem at Kwun Tong Road, and

she would reflect Members’ views to colleagues in charge. As road resources were precious, TD

encouraged passengers to make full use of the existing interchange arrangements so as to alleviate

road traffic congestion. TD would pay attention to the population development in Tseung Kwan

O. Being aware of the growing traffic demand in future, the department would seriously examine

the public transport service arrangements.



(6) Request for providing overnight bus services between Cheung Sha Wan and Tseung

Kwan O

(SKDC(TTC) Paper Nos. 358/20, 400/20, 401/20 and 418/20)

161. The Chairman said the motion was moved by Mr FUNG Kwan-on and seconded by Messrs

CHEUNG Wai-chiu, CHUNG Kam-lun and Ms Valerie WONG.

162. Members noted the written replies from TD, KMB and NWFB/Citybus.

163. Mr FUNG Kwan-on said as the request for introducing overnight bus services was listed

clearly in the motion, TD needed not provide information on bus services in the morning. In

view of TD’s denial of the suggestion for introducing new routes by reason of the noise generated

by buses on the road, he enquired about the current number of overnight bus routes serving Cheung

Sha Wan. Besides, referring to the motion tabled earlier that requested the introduction of whole-

day minibus services in both directions from Po Lam and Hang Hau to Mong Kok, he asked TD

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about the progress of the study on its five considerations in the planning and introduction of new

GMB minibus services.

164. Mr CHENG Chung-man was in support of the suggestion. He pointed out that public

transport services from Hang Hau to Cheung Sha Wan were limited, and many routes did not

operate via Cheung Sha Wan. He hoped that TD would seriously consider Members’ views.

165. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that the reply after meeting to the motion “Request for

introducing whole-day minibus service in both directions from Po Lam and Hang Hau to Mong

Kok” had been submitted to the Secretariat by email yesterday night. TD noted Members’ views

on the introduction of new overnight routes. In view of changes in passenger demand, the

department would explore the feasibility of service adjustment with bus companies in due course.

166. Ms Penny CHUNG of NWFB/Citybus responded that NWFB/Citybus noted Members’

views and would study and discuss the suggestion with TD in a timely manner.

167. Ms Christine WONG of KMB responded that in the past, KMB and TD had introduced

new bus routes within a relatively short period of time after receiving Members’ views, for example,

overnight route no. N290. KMB would study the captioned suggestion.

168. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that TD had not denied the suggestion for introducing

new routes. She reiterated that although TD had no plan to introduce the routes at the moment,

the department had noted Members’ views and would study the feasibility of service adjustment.

169. Mr LAI Wai-tong stated that a number of overnight bus routes served Tseung Kwan O,

including KMB route nos. N290 and N293, NWFB route no. N796 and overnight cross-harbour

route no. N691. He hoped that TD would give supplementary information on the patronage of

the above routes. Given that the fare of overnight bus routes might be up to $30, he enquired

whether the bus companies could offer interchange concessions while maintaining existing bus

services, including inter-company interchange concessions and interchange discounts on solely

and jointly operated routes. Furthermore, he had earlier proposed that route no. N290 should

draw reference from the routing of KMB route no. 40 and operate via Cheung Lai Street or Jao

Tsung-I Academy in Cheung Sha Wan, making use of the interchange network of MTR Mei Foo

Station, thereby facilitating passengers to change to route no. N290 heading to Lung Cheung Road.

He hoped that KMB would study afresh the suggestion.

170. Mr FUNG Kwan-on said TD, not fully prepared, had given an unsatisfactory response.

He hoped that TD would immediately examine the suggestion and conduct studies with bus

companies. As no bus route was similar to the proposed routing at present, there would not be

overlapping of routes. If passengers made interchange as recommended by TD, the fare would

be $30.9. He pointed out that incomprehensive transport ancillary facilities would encourage

illegal transport services. TD had no plan to extend coverage of the bus route to the industrial

area at Kwun Tong Road and Cheung Sha Wan, where demand for overnight traffic was extremely

high. He hoped that TD would promise to discuss the suggestion with bus companies, conduct

studies proactively and report on the progress of its follow-up work at the next meeting, including

progress of the study on introduction of bus and minibus routes operating in both directions from

Tseung Kwan O to Mong Kok, Cheung Sha Wan and Sham Shui Po.


motion was carried and requested TD, KMB and NWFB/Citybus to follow up on the views of

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Members.

(7) Proposal to provide shelters at the bus stops of New World First Bus in both directions

on Po Ning Road near Tak Fu House of Hau Tak Estate


172. The Chairman said the motion was moved by Ms Valerie WONG and seconded by Messrs

Stanley HO, Ryan LEE, TSE Ching-fung and FUNG Kwan-on.


174. Ms Valerie WONG enquired whether NWFB would conduct feasibility study or provide a

clearer reply.

175. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that TD had requested NWFB to examine the feasibility

of providing shelters at the bus stops.

176. Ms Penny CHUNG of NWFB/Citybus responded that NWFB had recorded the relevant

proposal. Although NWFB currently did not plan to provide shelters at the bus stops in both

directions near Tak Fuk House of Hau Tak Estate, the bus company would conduct a feasibility

study in due course.


motion was carried and requested TD and NWFB to follow up on the views of Members.

(8) Request the Kowloon Motor Bus to directly address the issue of safety hazard posed

by stone blocks of railings at bus stops to awaiting passengers and pedestrians


178. The Chairman said the motion was moved by Mr FUNG Kwan-on and seconded by Messrs

CHEUNG Wai-chiu, CHUNG Kam-lun and Ms Valerie WONG.

179. Members noted the written replies from TD and KMB.

180. Mr FUNG Kwan-on was satisfied with KMB’s promise to successively remove the stone

blocks of railings. In addition, he hoped that KMB would provide seats at the bus stops at Po

Kim House.

181. Mr Douglas MAK of KMB said he would follow up Members’ views.


motion was carried and requested KMB to follow up on the views of Members.

(B) One question raised by Members (Bus)

(1) Enquiry about the occupancy rates of bus routes between Tseung Kwan O and Kwun

Tong

(SKDC(TTC) Paper No. 361/20 and Paper on Table (3))

183. The Chairman said the question had been discussed with another item earlier.

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184. The Chairman said the various items related to bus services that had been discussed at the

meeting earlier would be referred to the Working Group on Bus and Minibus Routes in Sai Kung

District for follow-up work.

185. As the representatives of MTRCL had arrived, and there being no objection from Members,

the Chairman declared that items related to MTR would be discussed first.

VII. Items related to MTR service

(A) Matters Arising (MTR)

(1) Progress on the follow up of MTR service by the MTR Corporation in response to the

5th meeting of TTC in 2020




(2) To increase the train frequency at LOHAS Park Station throughout the day and

optimise the facilities at LOHAS Park Station

TTC urges MTR to increase the train frequency of Tseung Kwan O Line in view of

the population growth in Tseung Kwan O and invites MTRCL to explain to TTC and

the public the short, medium and long-term plans of service enhancement

Request for increasing the number of ticket gates at Tseung Kwan O MTR Station

and installing additional ticket gates at the 3 exits as well as reviewing the existing

crowd management measures implemented during hours after work

Enhancement of facilities and provision of toilets and additional gates at Po Lam

Station and Tseung Kwan O Station

Request for implementing the proposal to set up MTR Fare Savers in Po Lam as soon

as possible

Condemn MTR for failing to restore all equipment and facilities up to now, request

MTR to provide the progress of repair works for all stations along the Tseung Kwan

O Line and disband the MTR Special By-laws Enforcement Team

Request MTR to honour its undertaking to complete upgrading the signalling system

for Tseung Kwan O Line by 2021 and to increase the frequency of train service

between LOHAS Park and North Point


(SKDC(TTC) Paper Nos. 366/20 and 413/20)

187. Members noted the written replies from the Transport and Housing Bureau and MTRCL.

188. As a motion related to MTR was relevant to the above item and there being no objection

from Members, the Chairman declared that the two items would be discussed together.

Request MTRCL to increase the train frequency between LOHAS Park and North

Point via Tseung Kwan O and Tiu Keng Leng under the existing system


189. The Chairman said the motion was moved by Mr Chris CHEUNG and seconded by Mr

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Edwin CHEUNG.

190. Members noted the written reply from MTRCL.

191. Mr Chris CHEUNG enquired whether MTRCL could increase the frequency of train

service to LOHAS Park under the existing system. He expressed discontent that train frequency

could not be increased until 2026-2027, pointing out that patronage of the train service had reached

106% several years ago. He hoped that MTRCL would provide relevant data to show whether

the train frequency could be increased without upgrading the signalling system. He opined that

increasing the train frequency could effectively handle the passenger flow during morning peak

hours. In addition, he enquired why trains departing from LOHAS Park Station after 10 a.m. on

Saturdays would terminate at Tiu Keng Leng Station instead of North Point Station, expressing

the hope that MTRCL would resume the arrangement of terminating at North Point Station after

the epidemic subsided. He also enquired about the progress of installing entry/exit gates near

Exit B of LOHAS Park Station.

192. Mr LUI Man-kwong enquired when restoration works for the entry/exit gates at Exit B of

Tseung Kwan O Station would be completed.

193. Ms Stephanie WAI, Assistant Public Relations Manager – External Affairs of MTRCL,

gave a consolidated response as follows:

One of the entry/exit gates in Hang Hau Station had been restored. One entry/exit

gate in Tiu Keng Leng Station, Tseung Kwan O Station and Hang Hau Station

respectively was pending restoration, which were estimated to be completed in

December 2020.

The entry/exit gate mentioned by Mr LUI Man-kwong had resumed service earlier.

Yet, due to its unstable condition, further repair and inspection works had to be carried

out, which were estimated to be completed in December 2020.

The passenger flow at Exit B of LOHAS Park Station was on the rise. At present,

five entry/exit gates were provided at Exit B: two entry gates, two exit gates, and one

bidirectional entry/exit gate, all of which operated quite smoothly. MTRCL would

continue to review the situation.

Trains departing from LOHAS Park Station on Saturday mornings terminated at Tiu

Keng Leng Station because the service provided according to the train schedule during

non-peak hours for the purpose of coping with the epidemic development. Having

regard to various factors, MTRCL would adjust train frequency in a timely manner.

In view of changes in passenger flow, MTRCL had earlier resumed the operation

mode adopted during peak hours before the epidemic outbreak on Saturday mornings.

Increasing the frequency of trains running between LOHAS Park and North Point via

Tseung Kwan O and Tiu Keng Leng was a large-scale service adjustment, and various

factors should be considered. MTRCL needed some time to observe the changes in

passenger flow.

Amid the epidemic, MTRCL had adjusted the train frequency during non-peak hours

but not that during peak hours. Under the existing signalling system, MTRCL could

not further increase the train frequency during peak hours.

194. Mr CHUN Hoi-shing said regarding the provision of MTR Fare Savers in Po Lam, he had

conducted an inspection with MTRCL staff. He hoped that MTRCL would proactively follow

up the matter and maintain communication with Members.

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195. Mr Chris CHEUNG opined that MTRCL could increase the train frequency in a flexible

manner. He restated that the motion requested MTRCL to increase train frequency during non-

peak hours. If MTRCL could meet the needs of residents, Members would not have to continue

debating the provision of additional bus stops. He also hoped that MTRCL would send its

technical staff to the meeting to respond to matters concerning train service arrangements, as in

past meetings.

196. Ms Stephanie WAI of MTRCL gave a consolidated response as follows:

Regarding the setting up of MTR Fare Savers, MTRCL had reflected the matter to

relevant departments after inspection and would report to the Members concerned

when new developments were available.

She noted Members’ views on increasing the train frequency to/from LOHAS Park

during non-peak hours, which she would reflect to the Operations Department. Yet,

she reiterated that MTRCL had to take into account various factors, such as the

epidemic and the changes in passenger volume caused by Tseung Kwan O Tunnel

BBI, and therefore required more time for observation.

Upgrading of the signalling system did not only involve Tseung Kwan O Line. In

respect of matters concerning the signalling system upgrading, including the

signalling system incident on Tsuen Wan Line, the management of MTRCL had

earlier reported the progress to the relevant LegCo committee and responded to related

questions. MTRCL would report to the LegCo committee in due course if new

developments were available.

197. Mr Andrew CHAN opined that a quorum had not been present at the meeting earlier and

hoped that the Chairman and the Secretary would pay attention to the matter.

198. The Chairman said some Members had left their seats, but they had still been near the door

of the conference room.

199. The Chairman enquired whether the locations of MTR Fare Savers in Po Lam proposed

after the last inspection met the requirements on the distance between the Fare Savers and MTR

station. If the distance was appropriate, he enquired how to expedite the provision of MTR Fare

Savers.

200. Mr LUI Man-kwong said the Secretariat had kept an eye on the number of Members in the

conference room. When he had intended to leave the conference room earlier, staff of the

Secretariat had reminded him about the quorum.

201. Ms Stephanie WAI of MTRCL responded that MTR Fare Savers were provided to

encourage residents to take MTR. The aim could not be achieved if the Fare Savers were too

close to or too far from the MTR Station. Apart from the distance from MTR Station, the

provision of MTR Fare Savers also involved commercial and other considerations. If Members

deemed that the proposed locations met the requirements for setting up MTR Fare Savers, MTRCL

was ready to examine the suggestion.

202. Mr Chris CHEUNG once again enquired whether MTRCL would send its technical staff

to attend the meeting.

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203. Ms Stephanie WAI of MTRCL responded that she would follow up the suggestion.

204. Mr Andrew CHAN said he had noticed the lack of quorum, but he might be wrong. His

speech was made out of positive intention that the meeting could be conducted smoothly.


motion was carried and requested MTRCL to follow up on the views of Members. He also asked

the Secretariat to write to MTRCL, inviting the representatives of its technical department to attend

the next TTC meeting to respond to Members’ enquiries about the upgrade of signalling system

for MTR Tseung Kwan O Line. He said the remaining items under Matters Arising would

continue to be retained.

(3) Request MTR to set up entry/exit gates at Exit B and other suitable locations of

LOHAS Park Station to provide convenience to residents

Request MTRCL to expeditiously allow access to Exit B in LOHAS Park Station for

the convenience of the public


206. Mr Chris CHEUNG said he had mentioned the matters concerning LOHAS Park Station

earlier. He hoped that MTRCL would study how to improve the problem of long queues in the

station.

207. With the consent of Members, the Chairman declared that the above items would be deleted


(4) Request MTRCL to provide additional single journey ticket issuing machines at Exits

A and B in Tseung Kwan O Station

Request MTRCL to provide additional single journey ticket issuing machines at Exits

A and B in Hang Hau Station


208. With the consent of Members, the Chairman declared that the above items would be deleted


(B) The 2 motions raised by Members (MTR)

(1) Request MTRCL to increase the train frequency between LOHAS Park and North

Point via Tseung Kwan O and Tiu Keng Leng under the existing system


209. The Chairman said motion (1) had been discussed together with other items and carried

earlier.

(2) Request MTRCL to widen the ramp beside Exit C of Po Lam Station


210. The Chairman said the motion was moved by Mr CHUNG Kam-lun and seconded by he

himself, Messrs Gary FAN, LEUNG Li, LAI Ming-chak, LUI Man-kwong, FUNG Kwan-on,

CHUN Hoi-shing, LAI Wai-tong and CHOI Ming-hei.

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211. Members noted the written reply from MTRCL.


motion was carried and requested MTRCL to follow up on the views of Members.

213. The Chairman declared that the meeting was adjourned for a lunch break.

(The meeting resumed at 3:00 p.m.)

(Note: The meeting was temporarily chaired by the Vice-Chairman.)

VI. Items related to minibus service

(A) The 2 motions raised by Members (Minibus)

(1) Request the Transport Department to ensure provision of service pledge information

by time period and contractors’ contact details on the minibus stop signs en route in

Sai Kung district

(SKDC(TTC) Paper No. 362/20 and Paper on table (4))

214. The Vice-Chairman said the motion was moved by Ms LEUNG Hin-yan and seconded by

Mr LAI Wai-tong.


216. Mr LAI Wai-tong said the minibus stop signs of many GMB routes in Sai Kung and Tseung

Kwan O, such as those of route nos. 101M, 114A, 114B, 107 and 108A, had been in poor condition.

Therefore, he urged TD to inspect GMB facilities regularly. Although he understood the

operational difficulties encountered by some GMB operators, he hoped that the minibus operators

could display route information, service frequency, fare, etc. at the stops in the form of A4-sized

or A3-sized notices. He considered that TD should provide assistance for minibus operators

facing difficulties and hoped that TD would continue to follow up.

217. Mr Eddie WAN of TD responded that TD noted the views of Members and would pay

attention to the facilities at minibus stops when monitoring the operation of GMB routes in the

future.



(2) Request for installing a cover at the minibus terminus of GMB route no. 108A beside

Hang Hau (North) Bus Terminus to shelter passengers from the sun and rain


219. The Vice-Chairman said the motion was moved by Mr Andrew CHAN and seconded by

Messrs CHENG Chung-man and TSE Ching-fung.


221. Mr Andrew CHAN expressed disappointment over TD’s reply. He said many residents

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had relayed to him their request for the provision of a cover at the above minibus terminus.

Although the minibus operator stated its operational difficulties, he observed that the minibus

operator had established a primary customer base. He suggested that the department should

provide the design of the cover made of iron poles and canvas at the stop of GMB route no. 113

on Ming Shing Street for reference by the minibus operator as he estimated that the cost of the

cover would not be too high. Many Members agreed during the discussion on New Item (A) that

a cover should be provided there. As the public would benefit from the provision of the cover no

matter the Government provided subsidies or took the initiative to install the cover, the department

should take the suggestion into consideration.

222. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that TD had informed the relevant GMB operator, but it

had no plan to provide the cover for the time being in view of its operating situation. TD noted

the views of Members and would continue to encourage the operator to consider the provision of

covers at suitable locations based on its operating situation and the technical feasibility.



(B) One question raised by Members (Minibus)

(1) Question on the issues of minibus services in Hang Hau


224. The Chairman said the question was raised by Mr CHENG Chung-man.


226. Mr CHENG Chung-man said, as mentioned in TD’s written reply at the previous meeting,

TD considered that there was no lost trip problem of GMB route no. 102B after conducting site

investigation. However, the written reply this time showed that the lost trip problem occurred

during both the morning and afternoon peak hours in early November. He asked why the

operating situation in July was different from that in November. He believed it was only a

coincidence that minibuses had showed up during the site investigation in July as the lost trip

problem had persisted for half a year. In addition to receiving complaints from residents

repeatedly, he had also conducted site investigations on his own and found that the lost trip problem

had been long-standing. He hoped that TD and the operator would account for the operating

situation.

227. Mr Andrew CHAN said although he would not question the result of investigation by TD,

he had received many complaints from residents in the meantime. Furthermore, he had

conducted an investigation with Mr CHENG Chung-man and found that no services of GMB route

no. 102B had been provided. According to his understanding, GMB route nos. 102B, 102 and

101M were operated by the same operator; TD would bundle up some unprofitable routes, so that

the services of those routes could still be provided. However, the minibus operator had only

increased the frequency of the profitable routes at present. He considered that the situation was

unreasonable and suggested that the service frequency should be changed to 30- or 45-minute

intervals. If there was no demand for the route, the department should discuss with the minibus

operator and indicate to SKDC that the operation of the route could not continue.

228. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that regarding GMB route no. 102B, TD had conducted

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a site investigation and enquired about the operation of the minibus operator. As pointed out in

the reply from the minibus operator, the minibus drivers had forgotten to update the information

displayed on the destination board due to the shared use of the boards by route nos. 102 and 102B.

The department had given serious advice to the minibus operator and observed that the lost trip

problem of GMB route no. 102B had occurred during the investigation this month. The

department would continue with the follow-up and ask the minibus operator to provide an

explanation and review its routes and services.

229. The Chairman said he had received a letter from the operator before the meeting regarding

the operating situation of GMB route nos. 110, 110A and 13. He asked about the follow-up on

the relevant problems. Moreover, some Members expressed that the service frequency of some

routes varied. He suspected that the minibus operators, such as the operator of GMB route no. 17,

intended to take the opportunity to increase the fare after the vacancies for drivers remained

unfilled for some time as it was difficult to hire drivers given the low salary. If no drivers could

be hired for route no. 17, several empty minibuses would remain idle at Tsui Lam Bus Terminus.

He enquired whether TD had conducted inspections in this regard. Although some minibus

operators would like to make improvements, deficit was incurred every year and they could only

end up writing to SKDC about their operational difficulties. He hoped that TD would provide

the operators with assistance, including giving consideration to the extension of routes, the

introduction of overnight GMB routes and the diversion of routes via more stops.

230. Mr Andrew CHAN said it was untenable for the representative of TD to claim that the

drivers of GMB route no. 102B had forgotten to update the information displayed on the

destination board. He had a video clip which could prove that no services had been provided by

GMB route nos. 102B and 102 for two and a half hours.

231. Mr CHENG Chung-man questioned the above claim that drivers forgot to update the

information displayed on the destination board. Some residents had told him that they had once

taken GMB route no. 102, but the driver had claimed that the route was GMB route no. 102B while

following the route of route no. 102 in the end. He questioned whether the minibus had taken the

wrong route or whether there were other reasons that caused the continued absence of services of

route no. 102B and also the absence of minibus parked at night for GMB route no. 102B. After

the motion was moved, TD suddenly pointed out that the relevant minibuses were present but with

the lost trip problem. He queried whether it was a story made up by the department after further

questioning. He did not believe in the department’s reply and suggested that the department

should tell the truth after the meeting or conduct a site visit with Members so as to avoid conflicting

claims.

232. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded as consolidated below:

TD agreed to conduct a site investigation with the relevant Members regarding the

lost trip problem of route no. 102B.

TD would hold a meeting with the operator of GMB route nos. 110, 110A and 13

within this month. As the minibus operator’s intention was not indicated clearly in

the letter, the department would continue to discuss and review the existing services

with the operator, and submit a written reply on the progress of the relevant matters.

233. The Vice-Chairman said various items related to minibus services that had been discussed

at the meeting earlier would be referred to the Working Group on Bus and Minibus Routes in Sai

Kung District for follow-up.

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VIII. Items related to road works/facilities

(A) Matters Arising (Road works/facilities)

(1) Transport Department’s report on the follow up of the traffic works/facilities in Sai

Kung and Tseung Kwan O

(Paragraph 336 of the minutes of the previous meeting)



(2) The Main Traffic Improvement items and timetable from the Highways Department

(Sai Kung and Tseung Kwan O)




236. Mr LAI Wai-tong hoped that the Government would continue to explore the provision of

additional bicycle parking spaces in Tseung Kwan O and he took the view that follow-up should

continue even if the locations proposed at the previous meeting involved other departments. In

addition, he noticed that Singapore had used line markings to designate certain places where

bicycles could be parked so as to provide additional bicycle parking spaces. He enquired whether

TD could introduce a similar scheme in Tseung Kwan O on a pilot basis. Moreover, according

to the Road Traffic (Traffic Control) Regulations, bicycles could not be parked for more than 24

hours. As residents could not place their bicycles at home, he hoped that TD could provide

bicycle parking spaces on a long-term basis and that the department would implement more pilot

schemes in Tseung Kwan O.

237. Mr Daniel MA, Engineer/Pedestrian Improvements of TD, responded as consolidated

below:

Regarding the three locations for the provision of additional bicycle parking spaces

proposed by Members, a reply had been clearly set out in Paper No. 248/20 of the

previous TTC meeting. If the proposed locations were within the purview of other

departments, TD could not take charge. Members were advised to contact other

departments for enquiries.

The provision of line markings was the same as the current method of providing

bicycle parking racks in the way that both would occupy spaces. It was still

necessary for the department to explore whether the proposed locations were suitable

for the provision of bicycle parking spaces, which was not too different from

exploring whether to carry out the works.

Regarding the suggestion on the provision of 24-hour parking spaces, the department

was worried that the problem of abuse, such as the accumulation of clutter or

abandoned bicycles, would occur. The purpose of the Road Traffic (Traffic Control)

Regulations stipulating that bicycles could not be parked for more than 24 hours was

to prevent the public from occupying spaces on a long-term basis. As the problem

was serious despite the regulation of the ordinance, the department was worried that

the implementation of the above suggestion would aggravate the problem.

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238. The Vice-Chairman asked TD to continue to follow up on matters related to the provision

of additional bicycle parking spaces.

(3) Request the Transport Department to extend Po Lam Road, increase carriageway for

Tsui Lam Road and construct a roundabout at the junction of O Tau Village to

improve the traffic condition

Strongly request converting Tsui Lam Road back to a dual two-lane carriageway

(Paragraphs 338 to 340 of the minutes of the previous meeting)

239. The Vice-Chairman hoped that TD could invite the Chairman, he himself and Mr CHOI

Ming-hei to conduct a trial run of the road during the morning peak hours from 25 to 27 November

2020. As the plan had been delayed for a long time, and the above road section was very

congested during the morning peak hours, it would be more appropriate to conduct the trial run

during that period of time.

240. The Chairman asked whether TD would remove the water-filled barriers and arrange road

closure for the three-day trial run to be conducted on Tsui Lam Road. In addition, as there was a

higher traffic flow during the morning peak hours, he considered that the trial run should be

suspended if the traffic of Tsui Lam Road would be affected. The trial run should be conducted

from 7 a.m. to 8 a.m. on 25 November when circumstances permitted.

241. Mr Jason LAU, Engineer/Special Duties 1 of TD, welcomed Members’ participation in the

trial run. He expressed that TD would enclose a carriageway to accommodate single lane traffic

during the trial run and pay close attention to the road traffic. Further arrangements would be

made to alleviate road congestion if serious congestion was caused.

242. The Vice-Chairman said the above item would be retained.

(4) Request for exploring the possibility of providing an additional carriageway for one-

way traffic (Sai Kung bound and Kowloon bound) near the roundabout of

Silverstrand Beach Road to alleviate traffic pressure at the roundabout and achieve

traffic diversion

Suggest the Government consider resuming the private property at 828 Clear Water

Bay Road to tie in with the public housing development at Ying Yip Road and the

relevant road improvement works

Suggest a study on construction of the third link road connecting the roads in Clear

Water Bay and Tseung Kwan O to ease the traffic pressure on Clear Water Bay Road

and Ying Yip Road


243. Mr Ryan LEE asked about the progress of the study by TD.

244. The Vice-Chairman added that the traffic congestion of Clear Water Bay Road had become

increasingly serious since the commencement of the new school term. He enquired whether TD

had any plans to alleviate the traffic congestion problem.

245. Mr Thomas WANG, Engineer/Sai Kung of TD, responded as consolidated below:

TD noted the traffic congestion of Clear Water Bay Road. The contractor of the

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Anderson Road project had been requested to review the temporary traffic

arrangements of Clear Water Bay Road and On Sau Road, and make attempts to re-

arrange the traffic by adjusting the signal time of the two traffic lights for the

westbound direction of On Sau Road towards Kowloon and the road markings in the

hope of alleviating the traffic capacity of the junction to enable a smoother traffic flow

on Clear Water Bay Road.

Regarding the roundabout of Silverstrand Beach Road, it had been explained in the

progress report earlier that an additional lane would be provided on Ying Yip Road

and the exit of Ying Yip Road at the roundabout would be widened to a two-lane

carriageway. It was anticipated that the completion of the works could alleviate the

traffic pressure at the roundabout.

246. Mr Ryan LEE asked TD about the timetable for the work stages.

247. Mr Francis CHAU asked TD about the specific arrangements for the traffic lights from

Clear Water Bay Road westbound to areas in the vicinity of On Tai Estate.

248. Mr Thomas WANG of TD responded as consolidated below:

Regarding the works arrangements for the roundabout of Silverstrand Beach Road, as

the relevant road improvement works were arranged under the Public Housing

Development at Ying Yip Road, he would ask the relevant department about the

specific time frame of the works.

Regarding the traffic arrangements of Clear Water Bay Road, vehicles could use the

left lane to enter On Sau Road, the middle lane to Kowloon and the right lane to Clear

Water Bay Road. At present, vehicular traffic towards Kowloon could merge within

a certain distance past the junction of On Sau Road. TD initially proposed adjusting

the temporary traffic arrangements, which included extending the lanes at the

intersection past the junction, so that the two lanes could lead straight to Kowloon and

then merge into one lane only after passing the junction of On Sau Road. TD also

proposed adjusting the signal time of the traffic light ahead of that on On Sau Road

by synchronising the two traffic lights as far as possible, so that vehicles passing On

Sau Road would not be blocked.

The department would continue to follow up with the contractor before reporting to

TTC on the specific arrangements for the related matters.

249. The Vice-Chairman said the above item would be retained once.

(5) Request the Government to construct pedestrian links (including footbridges, covered

walkways, elevators and escalators) to connect Hong Sing Garden, King Ming Court

and Tsui Lam Estate with Po Lam area

Request the Government to increase resources for the 18 districts to expedite uphill

connectivity works, implement the project of the covered walkway and the escalator

link system between Hong Sing Garden and Po Hong Road and provide the works

schedule(s)

Enquire about the details of technical planning, financial arrangements and works

schedule for providing the escalator link to connect Hong Sing Garden, King Ming

Court and Tsui Lam Estate with Po Lam area


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250. Mr NG Kin-fung, District Engineer/Tseung Kwan O of HyD, reported on the hillside

escalator links and elevator systems (HEL) connecting Hong Sing Garden and Po Hong Road.

The consultant was carrying out site investigation work at present and commenced geotechnical

investigation in November, which was expected to be completed in the first half of 2021. After

obtaining the geotechnical information and statistics, HyD would study the alignment options

before reporting to TTC again later.

251. Mr CHOI Ming-hei enquired about the progress of the relevant works connecting Tsui Lam

Estate and To Lok Road.

252. Mr Jason LAU of TD responded that regarding the HEL connecting Tsui Lam Estate and

To Lok Road, TD would review the 114 HEL proposals received over the years according to the

newly revised mechanism. The review was almost complete and it was estimated that the

relevant District Councils would be consulted gradually since December this year.

253. The Chairman asked TD about the HEL proposals in the district to be announced in

December and their rankings among the 114 proposals.

254. Mr Jason LAU of TD responded that the result of the review was not available for the time

being. The relevant information could only be provided when the result of the review was

available in December.

255. Mr Gary FAN asked about the available information on the relevant HEL projects held by

TD and HyD. The suggestion had been put forward for many years, and residents should not be

asked to wait indefinitely for the implementation. He hoped that the relevant departments could

disclose more information on the timetable for the works assessment or its position on the waiting

list.

256. Mr Jason LAU of TD reiterated that the result of the review and the works schedule were

not available for the time being, and the relevant information could only be provided when the

result of the review was available in December.

257. Mr NG Kin-fung of HyD said the Government would take forward the HEL project

connecting Hong Sing Garden and Po Hong Road. The department was currently taking forward

the geotechnical investigation work to obtain relevant statistics for studying the alignment options

before consulting SKDC again. The timetable for taking forward the project was not available

for the time being. He would make enquiries with the colleagues of the Works Division

responsible for the relevant project before giving a further reply.

258. The Chairman reiterated that Mr Gary FAN had made two enquiries, namely when the

investigation report on the works progress of the HEL connecting Hong Sing Garden and Po Hong

Road would be released, and whether the latest result of the review on the proposed HEL

connecting King Ming Court and To Lok Road would be available in January 2021.

259. Mr NG Kin-fung of HyD supplemented that the investigation work was currently planned

to be completed in the first half of 2021.

260. Mr Jason LAU of TD supplemented that TD planned to consult the relevant District

Councils in December and would provide more information at that time.

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261. Mr Gary FAN considered that TD should keep abreast of the implementation and actual

situation of the works projects. He asked about the lead time of the previous projects so that

Members could understand the overall progress and estimate how much time it would take for

future project proposals to be completed.

262. Mr Jason LAU of TD said every footbridge and pedestrian facility involved different works

scopes, so the time required for implementing each project also varied. Therefore, it was not

possible to provide an exact waiting time, which would also depend on the position of the works

on the waiting list.

263. The Chairman asked when TD would carry out investigation work on the new rounds of

reviewed HEL proposals.

264. Mr Jason LAU of TD said the relevant timetable was not available for the time being.

265. The Vice-Chairman said the above item would be retained and hoped that HyD could

provide information on the works progress of the covered walkway and the escalator link system

connecting Hong Sing Garden and Po Hong Road at the next meeting.

(6) Request for enhancing publicity before the commission of the new traffic lights at Pak

Shek Wo and providing signs or markings in order to ensure safety of motorists and

pedestrians; and request for providing a footbridge or pedestrian subway with lifts as

a long-term measure

Enquiry about the commissioning date of the traffic lights in Pak Shek Wo


266. The Vice-Chairman said the traffic lights were commissioned on 19 October 2020. With

the consent of Members, the Vice-Chairman declared that the above items would be deleted at the

next meeting.

(7) The “Universal Accessibility” Programme Footbridge across Chiu Shun Road near

Tin Ha Wan Village (Structure No. NF310) Lift retrofitting proposal

The “Universal Accessibility” Programme Footbridge across Tsui Lam Road near

Tsui Lam Community Hall (Structure No. SK01) Lift retrofitting proposal

The “Universal Accessibility” Programme Footbridge across Tsui Lam Road

connecting Tsui Lam Shopping Centre and King Ming Court (Structure No. SK02)

Lift retrofitting proposal


267. Mr CHOI Ming-hei said regarding the works of SK01 mentioned in SKDC(TTC) Paper

No. 388/20, it was only mentioned under “Progress/Status” that the works contract had

commenced and advance preparatory work was in progress. He expressed dissatisfaction that a

similar reply had already been given earlier and the written reply this time was even less

informative than before. Residents were very concerned about the works progress, and HyD had

indicated at the previous meeting that it was necessary to discuss the situation with the relevant

housing estate due to authority and responsibility issues. According to his understanding, the

housing estate had already submitted the corresponding documents, but there was no sign of the

commencement of the relevant works. Therefore, he would like to ask about the current works

progress.

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268. Mr Ryan LEE enquired about the works progress of NF310.

269. Mr NG Kin-fung of HyD responded that regarding the progress of the above two lift

retrofitting works, HyD would ask the colleagues of the Works Division about the current

preparatory and future work after the meeting.

270. The Vice-Chairman asked HyD to provide a written reply after the meeting and said the

above items would be retained once.

(8) Request the government departments to provide facilities, namely 1. hillside escalator

or lift; and 2. construction of an emergency vehicular access between Shui Bin Village

Refuse Collection Point and the Co-operative Society, for bringing convenience to

villagers of Shui Bin Village in Hang Hau and improving their access to other areas

as well as for emergency service vehicles to gain direct access to the village


271. Mr LAU Kai-hong said he had explored the specific proposals with the Sai Kung District

Office (SKDO) earlier for the implementation of facilities providing access to the public toilet.

He hoped that the department would continue to assist in striving for the implementation of a

hillside escalator or lift and provide a timetable as soon as possible.

272. Mr Justin NG, Assistant District Officer (Sai Kung)2 of SKDO, responded that the proposal

for the construction of an emergency vehicular access was not feasible due to site and slope

constraints. Improvements could only be made to the footpath, the location of which could only

be reported after confirming with the Works Section after the meeting.

273. Mr Daniel MA of TD responded that TD noted the views of Members, but the above new

proposals could only be added after prioritising the original 114 HEL proposals.

274. The Vice-Chairman asked SKDO and TD to continue with the follow-up and report to TTC

on the progress in due course. He said the above item would be retained once.

(9) Request for a comprehensive review of road safety at Tseung Kwan O Tunnel Road

and a study on improvement measures

Enquire whether relevant department(s) will arrange clearance of rubble and gravel

from the roads to Tseung Kwan O at Tseung Kwan O Tunnel regularly to ensure the

safety of motorists and passengers


275. Mr LAU Kai-hong said the large number of dead trees on both sides along Tseung Kwan

O Tunnel Road would put drivers at risk during the tropical cyclone season. He hoped that the

relevant departments could handle the situation with greater efforts. In addition, he hoped that

the relevant departments would prune the trees on the slope of Hong Sing Garden outside the

tunnel entrance in view of the large tree size. As the traffic congestion problem was serious at

present, the operation of the tunnel would be paralysed if the trees collapsed.

276. Mr Francis CHAU agreed with Mr LAU Kai-hong. After the onslaught of the typhoon

earlier, thicker branches of trees at the left of Po Shun Road next to the tunnel and those on the

slopes along the road had been pruned. The previous term of SKDC had sought assistance from

SKDO and the Water Supplies Department (WSD) in the follow-up. While different areas of the

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tunnel might be under the management of WSD, the District Lands Office, Sai Kung (DLO/SK),

HyD or the tunnel company, he believed that it was necessary to review all of the areas. As the

Chairman had been appointed earlier to serve as a member of the Tseung Kwan O Tunnel Users

Liaison Group on behalf of SKDC, it was hoped that the relevant departments could be urged to

take the initiative to monitor the places beside the tunnel and handle the relevant improvement

work as soon as possible.

277. The Chairman said trees in the vicinity of Hong Sing Garden posed a potential danger.

According to his understanding, Hong Sing Garden was responsible for the management of the

slope. He hoped that SKDO would communicate with the Incorporated Owners of Hong Sing

Garden.

278. Mr Justin NG of SKDO responded that it was necessary to first understand whether

communication should be established directly with the Incorporated Owners, or first wait for

LandsD to study whether Hong Sing Garden had the responsibility to manage the trees there under

the land lease.

279. With the consent of Members, the Vice-Chairman declared that the above items would be

deleted at the next meeting.

(10) Urge the Government to holistically review the safety problem of rural roads and

install facilities such as convex mirrors (commonly known as fish-eye mirrors) to

ensure a clear sight line for motorists


280. Mr LAU Kai-hong said trees at the village entrances were trimmed by the village

representatives and villagers on their own initiative basically. However, it was undesirable that

the trees were obstructing the traffic at the village entrances. He hoped that the relevant

departments would deploy additional manpower to inspect locations near the village entrances in

rural areas, prune dangerous trees and allocate additional funding for handling unexpected and

routine pruning work. Furthermore, as there were many emergency maintenance accesses and

metal gates that were in a dilapidated condition beside the village entrances, he hoped that the

relevant departments would arrange the repair works together, instead of waiting for the village

representatives or villagers to report on individual issues before taking follow-up actions.

281. Mr Justin NG of SKDO responded that Sai Kung rural areas covered a vast area, and SKDO

had been maintaining close liaison with the Hang Hau Rural Committee. He thanked Members

and Rural Committee members for taking the initiative to report the problems. SKDO would

continue to follow the established practice to repair the damaged facilities as soon as possible.

282. The Vice-Chairman asked TD why fish-eye mirrors could be installed at the corners of

cycle tracks, but not on the road.

283. Mr Thomas WANG of TD explained that the installation of fish-eye mirrors on the road

would cause problem of reflected glare, which would affect driving safety, especially during night

time when vehicles in rural areas would use high beams. On the other hand, fish-eye mirrors

installed inside pedestrian subways or on cycle tracks could be used for security purposes, and for

observing whether there were passers-by at the corners so as to avoid collisions between bicycles

and pedestrians, which were different from the situations on the road.

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284. The Vice-Chairman asked TD and SKDO to continue with the follow-up. With the

consent of Members, the Vice-Chairman declared that the above item would be deleted at the next

meeting.

(11) Request for providing a traffic island at the road off Pak Sha Wan Fisherman Village


285. Mr Stanley HO enquired about the latest design of the traffic island. He expressed his

concern about the reduction in parking spaces at the car park and hoped that the agenda item could

be retained.

286. Mr Thomas WANG of TD understood that the reduction in parking spaces would have a

substantial impact. The preliminary design planned to reduce the number of parking spaces by

seven. However, based on the standard road design, the current plan was to reduce the number

of parking spaces by six, and there was no room for further optimisation at present. TD would

continue to explore other options to minimise the impact of the reduction in parking spaces as far

as possible and maintain communication with Mr Stanley HO.

287. The Vice-Chairman asked TD to continue with the follow-up and said the item would be

retained once.

(12) Request for relocating the urban taxi stand at Fuk Man Road to Sai Kung (North)

Public Transport Interchange to alleviate the traffic congestion on Fuk Man Road


288. The Vice-Chairman said the item would be retained once.

(13) Urge the Government to holistically review the planning of Sai Kung rural roads and

car parks




290. The Vice-Chairman said the item would be retained once.

(14) Enhancement of lighting systems in villages and application procedures for installing

village lights



291. Members noted the written reply from HyD.

292. The Vice-Chairman asked HyD about the application procedures and the duration of the

installation of street lights, and pointed out that the application for the installation of a street light

had been said to take many years.

293. Mr NG Kin-fung of HyD responded that the applications for lightings were vetted by the

Lighting Division of HyD in general. He would check with the responsible colleagues before

reporting to Members again.

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294. The Vice-Chairman would like to know why it would take several years to install a street

light and asked HyD to give a reply after the meeting.

295. Mr Justin NG of SKDO supplemented that there were hundreds of applications for street

lights in various rural areas on the waiting list. HyD could only commence some of the

construction works every year where resources permitted, resulting in the waiting situation. It

was not that the installation of a street light would take several years.

296. Mr LAU Kai-hong hoped that HyD could allocate more resources in view of the long

waiting time at present. Moreover, he suggested that HyD could make use of additional resources

to install solar-powered lights. Although the Rural Committees had made relevant attempts, they

could only borrow land from private land owners for the installation as it was illegal to install

solar-powered lights on government land. He hoped that the Government could expedite the

installation.

297. The Vice-Chairman supplemented that many trees that were not trimmed had obstructed

the illumination from street lights. Generally speaking, it took three to four months to process

complaints related to the trimming of trees at present. He suggested installing solar-powered

lights between street lights to facilitate access by villagers.

298. Mr NG Kin-fung of HyD noted the suggestions of Members and would discuss the

suggestions with the colleagues of the Lighting Division. However, generally speaking, the

existing practice was to trim the trees and refer such cases to the responsible departments.

299. The Chairman supplemented that HyD would liaise with the relevant departments on the

regular trimming of trees obstructing the illumination from street lights. He hoped that SKDO

could assist in the co-ordination work to deal with trees obstructing the illumination from street

lights.

300. Mr Justin NG of SKDO responded that SKDO was responsible for the trimming of grass

in general and seldom dealt with the trimming of trees. If Members were uncertain which

departments were responsible for the management of trees, they were welcome to make an enquiry

to the Liaison Officers and express their views by email. SKDO would relay the views to the

relevant departments to handle the relevant issues as soon as possible.

301. Mr LAU Kai-hong said that DLO/SK, HyD and the Leisure and Cultural Services

Department were unable to handle cases in some locations with grey areas. He hoped that all

departments could be accountable for the management of trees under their purview and that SKDO

could allocate additional resources to handle issues related to trees.

302. The Chairman considered that SKDO could assist in making enquiries about which

departments were responsible for the management of trees.

303. Mr Justin NG of SKDO responded that SKDO would assist in making enquiries about the

responsible departments and handle work related to trees within the capability of the office.

However, the Works Section did not have sufficient technical knowledge to handle large trees in

general.

304. The Vice-Chairman asked HyD to provide supplementary information on the details of

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applying for village lights and the reasons for the long processing time for the applications. He

said the above item would be retained once.

(15) Urge the Government to address the problem of traffic congestion on Hiram’s

Highway and to study and implement 13 minor improvement works projects


305. Mr Stanley HO said, according to a reply from TD, it was necessary to wait until the

approval for the Hiram’s Highway Improvement Stage 2 project to be obtained in 2027 before

implementing the relevant improvement works. However, he hoped that the department could

re-examine the possibility of the widening or provision of additional bus stops, provide separate

replies on the respective difficulty of the 13 minor works and implement the relevant minor works

as soon as possible.

306. Mr LAU Kai-hong said the problem of serious congestion gradually appeared on Clear

Water Bay Road. He did not hope that the works would only commence after the saturation of

the traffic flow on Hiram’s Highway. He hoped that the Government could plan ahead to

implement the design and the improvement plan the soonest, as well as to expedite the handling

of the road arrangements for Hiram’s Highway and Clear Water Bay Road.

307. Mr Thomas WANG of TD responded as consolidated below:

Regarding the implementation of the 13 minor improvement works, according to the

information from HyD, it was anticipated that the Hiram’s Highway Improvement

Stage 2 project would be completed in 2027. As the relevant minor improvement

works were at the level of district affairs, they had to proceed in parallel with the

arrangements of other works and completion would take time.

TD had reviewed the specific contents of the 13 proposed minor improvement works.

It was initially estimated that the design and arrangement of each proposed works

project generally required more than three years to complete.

It was likely that multiple improvement works could not finish before the completion

of the Hiram’s Highway Improvement Stage 2 project. It was estimated that two to

three projects could be completed where resources permitted. However, it was not

desirable if those works would be removed after several years due to the

commencement of the Hiram’s Highway Improvement Stage 2 project.

The Hiram’s Highway Improvement Stage 2 project would be gazetted for the second

time. He suggested that a decision could be made on whether to discuss the 13 minor

works separately only after the outcome of gazettal was announced.

308. Mr Stanley HO enquired about the timetable for the second gazettal.

(Note: The Chairman took the chair at this juncture.)

309. The Chairman said the item would be referred to the Working Group on Hiram’s Highway

Improvement Project for follow-up and hoped that HyD could provide the Working Group with

the timetable for the second gazettal.


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(16) Request for providing a shelter at the minibus terminus at Clear Water Bay Second

Beach as early as possible to provide a rain shelter for awaiting passengers


310. Mr Ryan LEE said HyD had indicated at the previous meeting that the plan was feasible.

He would like to know more about the current actual situation.

311. Mr NG Kin-fung of HyD responded that regarding the provision of a shelter at the minibus

terminus at Clear Water Bay Second Beach, the digging of trial holes had been carried out earlier.

It was found that the plan was feasible since not many facilities were laid underground. At

present, preparation work of the temporary traffic arrangements and the excavation permit were

underway, and the relevant works were anticipated to commence in the first quarter of next year.


312. The Chairman suggested that Mr Ryan LEE could continue the follow-up with HyD.

313. Mr LAU Kai-hong supported the handling of the relevant works as soon as possible.

Moreover, he suggested the provision of priority seats and reminded that the shelter should not be

made of pure glass materials.

314. The Chairman asked HyD to continue with the follow-up. With the consent of Members,

the Chairman declared that the above item would be deleted at the next meeting.

(17) Maintain smooth traffic flow at the Nam Pin Wai Road entrance/exit by considering

and painting the yellow box marking




316. Mr Stanley HO questioned whether the Nam Pin Wai section could be opened to traffic

in 2020. He enquired whether TD could maintain smooth traffic flow at the Nam Pin Wai Road

entrance/exit during the works delay, and expressed that villagers of Ho Chung New Village and

Nam Pin Wai Village had been plagued by the problem of traffic congestion. Therefore, he

suggested that TD could arrange road closure during night time and paint the yellow box marking

to provide space for access by villagers.

317. Mr Thomas WANG of TD responded that TD had commissioned a contractor to start

planning for painting the yellow box marking. Moreover, TD had asked HyD several times

whether the Nam Pin Wai section of the relevant improvement works could be opened to traffic in

2020, and a reply in the affirmative had been received for the time being. There was only very

little time left until the road section was opened to traffic. Furthermore, it was necessary to

occupy two lanes at the roundabout for the painting of yellow box marking, and it was also

necessary to remove the yellow box marking after the commissioning of the road section. As the

removal of the yellow box marking might not be completed within one night, he considered that

the painting of yellow box marking was not suitable at the moment. He would continue to

maintain communication with HyD after the meeting. If there was a delay in the commissioning

date, TD would consider afresh the suggestion on painting the yellow box marking.

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318. Mr Stanley HO took the view that the painting of yellow box marking aimed to facilitate

access by villagers and could be retained after the road section was opened to traffic. Therefore,

he hoped that TD would elaborate on why the yellow box marking had to be removed after the

road section was opened to traffic.

319. Mr Thomas WANG of TD responded that he understood the painting of yellow box

marking was to legally ensure drivers approached main roads from smaller roads smoothly.

However, as yellow box markings did not catch enough attention from drivers, the only effective

solution was to make drivers pay attention to the road conditions. Even after painting solid-cum-

broken white lines on the existing roads, some drivers would still change lanes inappropriately

towards the northbound section of Hiram’s Highway. Based on the above situations, the

department believed that the painting of yellow box marking might not effectively ensure the

access by residents of Ho Chung New Village and Nam Pin Wai Village.

320. Mr Francis CHAU considered that many drivers changed lanes inappropriately at the

roundabout of Nam Pin Wai Road at present, and the design of solid-cum-broken white lines made

it more difficult for vehicles from Nam Pin Wai Village to enter and exit. He enquired whether

the position of the solid-cum-broken white lines would be extended backward or re-examined in

the absence of yellow box marking.

321. Mr Thomas WANG of TD responded that TD had received views on the extension of solid-

cum-broken white lines earlier. However, in view of the large number of vehicles entering the

northbound section of Hiram’s Highway at present, TD took the view that the extension of solid-

cum-broken white lines would aggravate the traffic congestion in the area. Therefore, the

implementation was not recommended for the time being. After completion of the Hiram’s

Highway Improvement Stage 1 project, there would be two lanes on the northbound section.

There would be no need to use solid white lines to restrict vehicular traffic entering the northbound

section of Hiram’s Highway from the slow lane. The initial plan was to switch to the use of

broken white lines in the relevant road section. When vehicles entered the roundabout of Nam

Pin Wai Road, they could then use the two lanes to enter the northbound section of Hiram’s

Highway, while it would also be easier for vehicles from Nam Pin Wai Village to enter and exit.

322. Mr Francis CHAU enquired whether a conventional or new design would be adopted for

the roundabout after the Nam Pin Wai section of the Hiram’s Highway Improvement Stage 1

project was opened to traffic.

323. Mr Thomas WANG of TD responded that the conventional design would be adopted for

the roundabout. He explained that the requirements for drivers were the same regardless of

whether the design was conventional or new. Although the road markings of the two types of

roundabouts were different, the indicator signals and the habit of drivers remained the same.

324. The Chairman agreed with Mr Francis CHAU on the issues related to solid-cum-broken

white lines and the inappropriate changing of lanes by vehicles. He asked TD to follow things

up and said the above item would be retained once.

(18) Urge the Transport Department to report on the progress of and conceptual design

for Town Park in Area 66, Tseung Kwan O


325. Mr LAI Wai-tong said the Town Park in Area 66, Tseung Kwan O had been long awaited

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by residents. However, TD had neglected its duty and responsibility at the planning stage. TD

had commenced the study in 2011 and formally incorporated the plan into the works programme

in 2013. However, the department had only grasped the fact from 2017 to 2018 that about

800 temporary parking spaces were required by Area 66, Tseung Kwan O and proposed the plan

for the construction of an underground car park subsequently. Therefore, he hoped that TD would

co-operate with the Architectural Services Department as soon as possible to report to SKDC on

the conceptual design and changes in the traffic flow of the Town Park and the underground car

park in Area 66, Tseung Kwan O. Moreover, he hoped that TD would provide an alternative

proposal after the Town Planning Board rejected the rezoning application.

326. Mr Jason LAU of TD responded that TD had provided the District Facilities Management

Committee (DFMC) with a detailed reply.

327. The Chairman said the above item would be retained once.

(19) Suggestion for providing additional bicycle parking spaces in Tseung Kwan O




(20) Suggestion for providing additional fish-eye mirrors inside the pedestrian subway

between Chung Ming Court and King Lam Estate


329. Mr NG Kin-fung of HyD said it had been stated at the previous meeting that upon

completion of road improvement works at the location concerned, the sight distance of pedestrians

and cyclists would be improved greatly. He also said the relevant works were completed on 2

November.



(21) Request for providing smart device to extend flashing green time at the crossing

outside Po Lam Estate Multi-Purpose Hall on Po Fung Road




(22) Request for providing rain shelters at some of the footbridges in Hang Hau to shield

residents from rain and sunlight


332. Mr CHENG Chung-man said he and some Members had conducted a site inspection earlier

together with the representatives of HyD, who indicated that wind measurement would be carried

out later so as to explore the feasibility of the provision of rain shelters at the footbridges. He

asked HyD to release the result of the measurement and inform Members whether rain shelters

could be provided.

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333. Mr NG Kin-fung of HyD responded that the footbridges concerned were relatively exposed,

it was therefore necessary to consider the structural stability in the provision of rain shelters. The

dedicated department was assessing whether the provision of rain shelters was suitable for the

footbridges, and the result would be reported to Members once available.



(23) Request for tackling the serious shortage of parking spaces in the peripheral areas of

LOHAS Park and The Beaumount, propose to provide metered parking spaces

between Lohas Park Road and the restored landfill and request for giving an account

of the construction progress and schedule of the temporary car park at 1-3 Shek Kok

Road



335. Members noted the written reply from LandsD.



(24) Request Traffic and Transport Committee to write to the Transport Department

expressing oppositions to the provision of a “no right-turn” sign at the exit of Choi

Ming Shopping Centre car park and a centre island on Choi Ming Street; and strongly

condemn the Transport Department for amending the Road Users’ Code during the

consultation period




338. Mr CHAN Wai-lit enquired about the number of objections received during the

consultation period. He also pointed out that because two complaints had been received, TD had

provided the “no right-turn” sign at the time. He would like to know the number of complaints

requesting the removal of the “no right-turn” sign after the provision of the sign.

339. Mr Daniel MA of TD responded that he had conducted a site inspection with Mr CHAN

Wai-lit. During the consultation period, TD had received some objections and would deal with

each of them seriously. TD would handle all objections before taking further actions and

maintain communication with Mr CHAN Wai-lit in the meantime.

340. Mr CHAN Wai-lit enquired whether the centre island concerned would be provided after

TD completed the handling of the objections. He asked TD to provide the timetable for the

provision of the centre island and an explanation of how the objections would be handled.

341. Mr Daniel MA of TD supplemented that every objection was raised with a reason. TD

would examine every objection carefully and the plan would be put on hold before a conclusion

was reached.

342. The Chairman pressed TD to provide Members with the number of objections.

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343. Mr Daniel MA of TD supplemented that it was inappropriate to disclose information

relevant to the objections on grounds of confidentiality. He reiterated that TD would process

every opinion carefully and would not deal with them differently because of the number of

objections. TD would maintain communication with Members and would not implement new

projects rashly without the support of SKDC Members of the respective constituencies.

344. The Chairman believed that disclosing the number of objections would not violate the

principle of confidentiality. Therefore, he hoped that TD would provide the exact number of

objections at the next meeting.

345. Mr CHAN Wai-lit asked if TD could undertake to put on hold all projects until a clear

account of the relevant information could be given at the meeting.

346. Mr Daniel MA of TD reiterated that TD would not take any action before handling the

objections.

347. The Chairman said the above item would be retained once.

(B) Item referred by the Housing, Planning and Development Committee (Road works /

facilities)

(1) Request for increasing the number of motorcycle parking spaces at Po Lam Road

North

(SKDC(HPDC) Paper Nos. 116/20, 132/20, 133/20 and 134/20)




(C) The 4 motions raised by Members (Road works / facilities)

(1) Suggest the Transport Department to provide additional motorcycle parking spaces

at appropriate locations in Tiu Keng Leng


349. The Vice-Chairman said the motion was moved by Mr LEUNG Li and seconded by the

Chairman, Messrs Gary FAN, CHUNG Kam-lun, LUI Man-kwong, LAI Ming-chak, LAI Wai-

tong, FUNG Kwan-on and CHUN Hoi-shing.


351. Mr LEUNG Li stated that many grassroots took up food courier jobs after becoming

unemployed due to the epidemic, which led to an increase in the demand for motorcycle parking

spaces. Therefore, he hoped that TD could provide additional motorcycle parking spaces at

suitable locations in the district, including the lay-bys at the roadside of Chui Ling Road. He said

TD had accepted the views of the community to convert some lay-bys into motorcycle parking

spaces, but there was still a shortage of parking spaces, showing that there was still a demand for

motorcycle parking spaces at present. Moreover, he took the view that TD’s written reply did

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not respond to the content of his motion and hoped that TD could study the provision of additional

motorcycle parking spaces at the said location for the convenience of residents in the district.

352. Mr CHAN Wai-lit said the written reply from TD pointed out that vacant motorcycle

parking spaces were still available in places such as Choi Ming Court, Kin Ming Estate and Tong

Ming Court, but no actual figures could be provided. Therefore, he hoped that TD could provide

the waiting time for motorcycle parking spaces in the district. If no actual figures were available,

it was unreasonable for TD to have reservations about the suggestion in the motion by only

pointing out that there were many vacant motorcycle parking spaces at present.

353. Mr Daniel MA of TD responded as consolidated below:

It was very difficult to provide additional motorcycle parking spaces. However, TD

had spared no efforts in carrying out relevant work to provide additional motorcycle

parking spaces in Tseung Kwan O, Hang Hau and Tiu Keng Leng in recent years.

TD often received objections from the local community when conducting

consultations.

TD reviewed the number of indoor motorcycle parking spaces in a timely manner, but

the waiting time was not within the scope of the review. TD could provide

information on the usage of motorcycle parking spaces, but the figures might vary due

to the different situations every day.

He reiterated the hope that no parked vehicles would occupy the road, and stated that

abuses were also found in the past. As motorcycle parking spaces were free of

charge, some motorcycles might occupy the parking spaces for a long time.

TD encouraged motorists to use indoor car parks.

Although food delivery services would lead to an increase in the demand for

motorcycle parking spaces, the phenomenon was short-term only and it was believed

that the demand for parking spaces would be relieved after the epidemic.

If motorcycle parking spaces were added to public roads continuously, the public

would be more reluctant to pay for indoor motorcycle parking spaces and would not

consider preparing for parking spaces before purchasing motorcycles, which was

unfair to those who paid for indoor parking spaces. Therefore, TD had reservations

about the suggestion.

The provision of additional motorcycle parking spaces might be necessary in

individual areas, but it still required careful studies to balance the situation in the

whole district.

354. Mr CHAN Wai-lit hoped that the Chairman could write to Link Asset Management Limited

and the Housing Department (HD) to enquire about the waiting time for the motorcycle parking

spaces and whether owning a motorcycle or relevant driving licence was a prerequisite for the

purchase or rental of motorcycle parking spaces. He hoped that Link Asset Management Limited

and HD could provide a written reply on the application status and the related procedures regarding

the motorcycle parking spaces.

355. The Chairman said both Messrs LEUNG Li and CHAN Wai-lit were concerned about the

shortage of motorcycle parking spaces in the district. He hoped that the two Members could

provide TD with the exact locations of the motorcycle parking spaces proposed to be provided.

356. Mr LEUNG Li stated that the exact locations had been provided earlier, i.e. the two lay-

bys at Chui Ling Road near Kin Ming Estate. He hoped that the existing motorcycle parking

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areas could be widened to benefit more motorists. He also believed that it was not difficult to

widen the existing motorcycle parking areas in terms of consultation and construction works.

357. There being no amendment or objection from Members, the Vice-Chairman declared that

the above motion was carried and requested TD to follow up the matter.

(2) Request for installing a fish eye mirror at Po Yap Road near the side entrance to Yee

Ming Estate


358. The Vice-Chairman said the motion was moved by Mr TSE Ching-fung and seconded by

Messrs Ricky OR, CHENG Chung-man and Andrew CHAN.

359. Members noted the written replies from TD and HD.

360. Mr TSE Ching-fung said he had already conducted a site inspection with HD, which

considered that it was not appropriate to install fish eye mirrors in the places under its management.

Therefore, he suggested that a fish eye mirror be installed in nearby places such as the footpath of

Po Yap Road. In his view, traffic accidents often occurred at the side entrance to Yee Ming Estate,

so he hoped that a fish eye mirror could be installed to improve the above situation. Moreover,

he suggested the provision of a fish eye mirror at the wire mesh near the side entrance to Yee Ming

Estate, but he was uncertain which department was responsible for the management of that location.

He continued that fish eye mirrors had been provided in many pedestrian subways to prevent

crimes, and hoped that TD would install fish eye mirrors in the corresponding locations. He also

expressed his willingness to conduct a site inspection with TD.

361. Mr Jason LAU of TD responded that Po Yap Road near the side entrance to Yee Ming

Estate was not under the management of TD, and fish eye mirrors were not standard traffic

facilities of TD. Therefore, TD did not support the installation of fish eye mirrors and HD should

be responsible for the areas within Yee Ming Estate.

362. Mr TSE Ching-fung reiterated that the location of the proposed fish eye mirror was not

under the management of HD, and suggested the installation of a fish eye mirror on the footpath

of Po Yap Road. He suggested conducting a site inspection with TD if the representatives of TD

were uncertain about the said location. During his site inspection with HD earlier, the department

considered that the installation of a fish eye mirror on the external wall would be technically

difficult, which was why a fish eye mirror could not be provided there. He hoped that TD or

HyD could conduct a site inspection.

363. Mr Jason LAU of TD supplemented that he understood the location indicated by the

Member. However, he reiterated that fish eye mirrors were not standard traffic facilities of TD

and therefore could not be installed. He also expressed his willingness to conduct a site

inspection with the relevant Member.

364. The Vice-Chairman suggested that HD, TD and HyD should conduct a site inspection

together with Mr TSE Ching-fung.

365. Mr TSE Ching-fung added that TD or HyD had been responsible for the relevant issues in

the past, so he was confused about why TD was not responsible for the installation of fish eye

mirrors.

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366. The Chairman believed that fish eye mirrors had been provided in many pedestrian

subways. In his view, TD was responsible for the design of fish eye mirrors, while HyD was

responsible for the construction. He hoped that TD could provide a written reply on the reasons

why the proposed fish eye mirror could not be installed.

367. Mr TSE Ching-fung agreed to the relevant arrangements and considered that it was

unacceptable for the departments not to follow up only because they were not responsible for the

relevant matters.


the above motion was carried and requested TD to submit a written reply on the relevant progress

after conducting a site inspection with the relevant Member, HyD and HD.

(3) Request for providing signs prohibiting parking at illegal parking black spots in Hang

Hau and Tseung Kwan O to remind drivers and alleviate congestion


369. The Vice-Chairman said the motion was moved by Mr CHENG Chung-man and seconded

by Messrs Andrew CHAN, Ricky OR and TSE Ching-fung.


371. Mr CHENG Chung-man was puzzled by the written reply from TD. He understood that

the no-stopping restriction at the said road sections had to be handled by HKPF, but he considered

that the practice was not effective. Taking Ngan O Road as an example, he stated that the illegal

parking problem had yet to be addressed for years, and suggested making new attempts such as

the provision of signs prohibiting illegal parking. He once spotted a nice sign at Kai Tin Road

reminding pedestrians not to jaywalk. In his view, that sign was not supposed to exist if the

content of the written reply was applicable, so he expressed his dissatisfaction with the reply. He

took the view that the illegal parking problem had a significant impact on residents’ daily lives at

present and asked TD to study the captioned matter. Moreover, he suggested that TD should

conduct a feasibility study and ask SKDC for funding to assist in the provision of the signs if TD

did not have sufficient resources. He also considered that TD should give constructive views.

372. Mr Andrew CHAN said Ngan O Road was a notorious illegal parking black spot. As

stated in the reply from TD, relevant traffic management measures would be implemented if

necessary. He queried whether TD believed that there was no need to make improvements to the

said location. He hoped that TD would brief Members on the management measures related to

resolving the illegal parking problem and provide an explanation for the department’s refusal to

implement the plan proposed by Mr CHENG Chung-man. In addition, there were also illegal

parking problems at the road outside Bauhinia Garden at night. The illegally parked large

vehicles blocked the traffic lights and obstructed the vision of pedestrians who were crossing the

road. He hoped that TD would consider the suggestion carefully.

373. Mr LEE Ka-yui said the areas outside Sheung Tak Shopping Centre and near the fire station

at Kwong Ming Court were also notorious illegal parking black spots. Although TD had

implemented certain measures, the problem still existed. This motion was targeted at places

where the problems had not yet been resolved after the implementation of the measures. However,

the reply from TD was not positive, which had disappointed Members. In his view, illegal

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parking black spots had an extensive impact on traffic, and Members had also mentioned similar

issues repeatedly. He hoped that TD would consider it again carefully.

374. Mr LAI Wai-tong took the view that the written reply from TD was just a repetition of the

previous replies, and the Police was unable to deploy manpower to take law enforcement actions

at every illegal parking black spot around the clock. Although there was no existing practice of

providing signs prohibiting illegal parking, TD could conduct a study in this regard and put it into

practice in Tseung Kwan O on a pilot basis. He was confused about TD’s refusal to provide signs

prohibiting illegal parking, and hoped that TD would proactively consider the captioned suggestion

in view of the serious illegal parking problem in Tseung Kwan O South.

375. Mr Francis CHAU understood the difficulty TD had in setting up new directional signs.

However, in view of the rampant illegal parking problems in Tseung Kwan O, he considered that

these places should be reviewed and consideration should be given to changing the existing road

signs and markings, extending the time period of restricted zones and adding other road markings.

He also pointed out that it was difficult to follow up by manual means alone. Therefore, the

Police had also used mobile video recording for law enforcement at Ngan O Road, which showed

that measures had been improving. He hoped that TD could also propose new measures. He

would write to HKPF and TD to convey the hope of extending the time period of restricted zones

to enhance the deterrent effect.

376. Mr LUI Man-kwong said the Police used to set up signs similar to those prohibiting illegal

parking in areas within his constituency in the past. He believed that it would be effective no

matter which department provided signs prohibiting illegal parking, and he also agreed to the

suggestion on extending the time period of restricted zones. He pointed out that TD would hand

over the responsibility to the Police whenever TD responded to the related questions. Although

it was necessary for the Police to strengthen law enforcement, TD should also assist in solving the

problem. For example, TD could improve the road design and set up the time period of restricted

zones, which could also promote the self-discipline and collaboration of residents.

377. Mr Andrew CHAN clarified that the signs proposed in the motion were warning signs

similar to banners, with a format similar to those mentioned by Mr LUI Man-kwong. Banners

jointly put up by SKDO, HKPF and TD were also displayed in the subway near Sai Kung Tseung

Kwan O Government Complex to remind residents not to park their bicycles arbitrarily. He

believed that it was not difficult to display similar banners and hoped that TD would make an

attempt.

378. The Chairman said the Police had followed up on the illegal parking problem recently,

which included towing away the illegally parked vehicles. He hoped that TD and the Police

would respond to whether the no-stopping signs provided during some events earlier could impose

a deterrent effect. If the motion was carried, he suggested that TD and the Police conduct a site

inspection at Ngan O Road to explore solutions. The large number of restaurants at Ngan O Road

were patronised by drivers of large vehicles, which however led to serious illegal parking problems.

He hoped that TD and the Police could provide solutions.

379. Mr Daniel MA of TD responded as consolidated below:

He had reservations about the provision of signs that only served as a reminder with

no legal effect.

He agreed to the views on making use of the existing signs before taking follow-up

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actions.

TD had conducted multiple inspections at Ngan O Road. At that time, the

department had changed the position of the markings for the restricted zone and the

Police had also stepped up law enforcement. The problem had been alleviated but it

had reoccurred due to other factors.

He emphasised that law enforcement by the Police was the most effective solution to

the illegal parking problem. TD and the Police would complement each other in

their work.

As the situation of each place was different, explanations could not be provided

individually in the written reply.

TD was unable to place the temporary signs mentioned by the Chairman, which were

used temporarily to complement the operations of the Police.

380. Mr Raymond KO, Chief Inspector of Police Tseung Kwan O District Operations of HKPF,

responded as consolidated below:

The Police was aware of the illegal parking at Ngan O Road and arranged for the

Mobile Video Team to step up law enforcement. Irresponsible motorists were

disciplined in the form of fixed penalty notices.

The law enforcement actions of the Tseung Kwan O Police District had been adjusted

based on the actual situation of illegal parking. For example, officers of the Uniform

Branch Sub-Units would issue electronic fixed penalty notices for law enforcement

on a pilot basis to enhance the flexibility and efficiency of law enforcement.

The Police carried out law enforcement in the form of issuing multiple fixed penalty

notices at various illegal parking black spots. Law enforcement actions were even

carried out at night.

The display of temporary signs was an interim measure. The temporary signs were

not fixed and would easily be blown down by strong wind, so it was not a feasible

solution in the long term.

Regarding ways to alleviate the problem in general, in addition to improving the road

design and strengthening law enforcement by the Police, it was also hoped that SKDC

Members could educate residents about the severity of the illegal parking problem in

Tseung Kwan O.

In response to the opening of the DON DON DONKI store at Monterey Place, the

Police had stepped up law enforcement during the periods where illegal parking was

the most serious.


the above motion was carried and requested TD and HKPF to follow up. He also suggested

conducting a site inspection and asked the Secretariat to make the arrangements.

(4) Request the Transport Department to conduct comprehensive review and improve

the road design in Tseung Kwan O South


382. The Vice-Chairman said the motion was moved by Mr LUI Man-kwong and seconded by

the Chairman, Messrs Gary FAN, LEUNG Li, CHUNG Kam-lun, LAI Wai-tong, LAI Ming-chak

and CHUN Hoi-shing.


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384. Mr LAI Wai-tong said some residents had expressed their hope of removing the “no right-

turn” sign at Chi Shin Street because it would only take one minute for drivers to reach Po Yap

Road and enter Tseung Kwan O Tunnel via Wan Po Road if they were allowed to turn right.

However, the existing arrangement of only allowing a left turn had increased the journey time to

five minutes, which caused great distress to residents. Furthermore, it was unsatisfactory that the

journey time of residents had increased due to the progressive development of the Tseung Kwan

O area and the significant increase in the usage of roads. He hoped that TD would study how to

improve the road design in Tseung Kwan O South and remove the “no right-turn” sign concerned.

In addition, he hoped that TD would submit statistics on the changes in the traffic conditions of

Tseung Kwan O South after the commissioning of Tseung Kwan O – Lam Tin Tunnel and the

completion of the government project in Area 67.

385. Mr Jason LAU of TD responded that regarding the “no right-turn” sign at Chi Shin Street,

TD currently adopted the “left-in-left-out” option. As the junction was located at a bend, drivers’

vision would be blocked. The arrangement of not allowing a right-turn could therefore reduce

the risk of accidents. TD would provide statistics relevant to the traffic conditions of Tseung

Kwan O South in a timely manner.


the above motion was carried and requested TD to follow up the matter.


(D) One question raised by Members (Road works / facilities)

(1) Enquiry made to the Highways Department and Transport Department about the

progress of works for an even road surface near “Po Kin House” bus stop at Po Fung

Road in Po Lam and the progress of studying how to improve the queuing problem

due to the narrow road at the minibus stop


387. The Chairman said that as Mr FUNG Kwan-on, who raised the above question, was not

present at the meeting, the question would neither be discussed nor be postponed to the next

meeting for discussion. He also said he would take the initiative to meet with the representatives

of TD to conduct a site inspection.

388. Ms Charis LEE of TD noted the suggestion of the Chairman.

IX. Others

(A) Matters Arising (Others)

(1) Progress on the follow up of Others by the Transport Department in response to the

5th meeting of TTC in 2020




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(2) Problem of noise generated by vehicles late at night



390. Members noted the written reply from HKPF.

391. Mr Francis CHAU hoped that the Police would pay close attention to the problem of noise

generated by vehicles late at night and pointed out that some vehicles intentionally shuttled in the

urban areas late at night.

392. Mr Raymond KO of HKPF responded that some vehicles made louder sounds when they

were in motion. Moreover, the Police had made observations at various road sections late at night

after receiving a number of views on modified vehicles. Even if the vehicle concerned could not

be intercepted immediately, a notice for vehicle examination would be issued to the vehicle owner

requiring an inspection of the vehicle to examine whether noise problems were caused by illegal

vehicle modification.



(3) Request for examining the legalisation of online hailed cars and formulating clear

legislation to regulate online hailed cars to realise the idea of smart city




(4) Request for providing park-and-ride facilities in Sai Kung rural areas on holidays

Enquiry about the figures of parking spaces and illegal parking in Sai Kung rural

areas


395. The Chairman asked whether the Police could provide the figures of illegal parking in

Tseung Kwan O North, Tseung Kwan O South and Sai Kung respectively.

396. Mr Ron YUNG, Assistant Divisional Commander (Operations), Sai Kung Division of

HKPF, indicated that the figures of illegal parking in Sai Kung had already been provided.

397. Mr Raymond KO of HKPF said the Police did not divide Tseung Kwan O Police District

into Tseung Kwan O North and Tseung Kwan O South, so the reply would be based on the figures

of the entire Tseung Kwan O area.

398. Mr LAI Wai-tong suggested that the Police should regularly provide the figures of illegal

parking black spots at future meetings of TTC or the Working Group on Illegal Parking in Sai

Kung District, so that Members could know more about the effectiveness of law enforcement and

whether the problem of illegal parking had been alleviated.

399. Mr Raymond KO of HKPF responded that the Police had kept the figures of law

enforcement at illegal parking black spots, and such figures could also be provided to Members.

However, he would like to clarify that the figures of law enforcement were not necessarily related

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to the figures of illegal parking. The Police would make an overall assessment based on various

figures such as traffic congestion, traffic accidents and complaints.

400. The Chairman requested the Police to provide the figures of illegal parking in Tseung Kwan

O and Sai Kung regularly in the future. He also said the above item would be retained.

(5) Request for deploying more driving examiners to handle the progress of driving tests






(6) Enquiry about the reasons for congested traffic in Sai Kung Town Centre




404. The Chairman said the above item would be retained.

(7) Enquiry about the policy on matters related to cycling



405. Members noted the written reply from the Civil Engineering and Development Department.

406. Mr LAI Wai-tong said bicycles could not be parked for over 24 hours at present. However,

the departments could extend the notice period before the clearance of bicycles, and notify SKDC

Members of the respective constituencies and the management offices of housing estates in the

form of circulars to remind residents and facilitate their preparation.

407. Ms Charis LEE of TD responded that TD noted Members’ views and would notify SKDC

Members of the respective constituencies as soon as possible before issuing the relevant circulars.



(8) Enquiry about the policy on matters related to electric mobility devices


409. The Chairman said item (8) had been discussed together with another item earlier.

(B) One question raised by Members (Others)

(1) Enquiry about the problem of illegal parking in Tseung Kwan O South


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410. The Chairman said the question was raised by Mr LAI Wai-tong.

411. Members noted the written reply from HKPF.

412. The Chairman said the above question was relevant to the issue of illegal parking discussed

at the meeting earlier, and requested HKPF to follow up on the views of Members.

X. Report Items

(A) Progress Report of Major Works of the Sai Kung District Council



413. Members noted the paper and the written reply from HyD.

(B) Progress Report of the Working Group on Facilitation of Use of Bicycles in TKO Area




415. The Chairman asked SKDO and TD to continue to follow up on the relevant matters.

(C) Statistics on cycling accidents




(D) Progress Report of the Working Group on Bus and Minibus Routes in Sai Kung District


417. The Chairman said item (D) under Report Items had been reported and endorsed earlier.

(E) Progress Report of the Working Group on Illegal Parking in Sai Kung District


418. There being no objection from Members, the Chairman declared that the above report was

endorsed.

XI. Any Other Business

(A) Item referred by Sai Kung District Council meeting: Request for including the stakeholders

in the vicinity of Sai Kung Town in the notification mechanism for the temporary traffic

arrangements of Hiram’s Highway

(SKDC(M) Paper Nos. 298/20, 324/20 and 325/20)

419. Ms LEUNG Hin-yan said the representative of TD had stated at the previous SKDC

meeting that the information on road repair works was provided in the mobile application

“HKeMobility”. However, she discovered that the application did not provide information about

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the urgent repair works of Hiram’s Highway at night on 11 November 2020. She hoped that TD

would give an explanation.

420. Mr Thomas WANG of TD said he needed to make an enquiry to the Emergency Transport

Co-ordination Centre and a written reply would be provided to TTC after the meeting.

421. Ms LEUNG Hin-yan would like to invite the departmental representative who responded

to her at the previous SKDC meeting to give a reasonable explanation. In addition, she enquired

about the criteria adopted by the Emergency Transport Co-ordination Centre in determining the

information on road repair works to be released.

422. The Chairman said that the decision on whether to ask the Secretariat to invite the

departmental representative concerned to attend the meeting would be made after receiving the

written reply from TD. He also said the above item would be retained once.

(B) Updated membership list of the Working Groups established under the Traffic and

Transport Committee


423. There being no objection from Members, the Chairman declared that the above updated

list was endorsed.

(C) Item referred by the District Facilities Management Committee: Enquiry about why the

Highways Department lied

424. Ms LEUNG Hin-yan said the above question was raised at the sixth meeting of DFMC,

but no representative of HyD attended the meeting that day. Therefore, she hoped that the

representatives of HyD could respond to the above question at this juncture.

425. Mr NG Kin-fung of HyD responded that he knew about the content of the meeting on that

day and understood that Members would like to make further enquiries about the information

during the period before and after 3 August 2020. He would refer the question to the colleagues

from the Maintenance Section of HyD for a reply.

426. Ms LEUNG Hin-yan clarified that she would like to know about HyD’s inspection work

on waste disposal at the junction of Lakeside Garden from 10 June to 7 August 2020. The photos

taken by her on 10 June and 7 August 2020 showed that HyD did not carry out the relevant work,

but the department claimed to have conducted an inspection on 3 August. Therefore, she would

like to seek a reasonable explanation and proof that the relevant work had been carried out by HyD.

427. The Chairman asked HyD to provide a written reply after the meeting with regard to the

enquiry about the accumulation of illegally discarded refuse at the junction of Lakeside Garden.

(D) Matters related to the provision of a bus stop at Po Hong Road

428. The Chairman enquired about the works schedule and the completion date of the bus stop

at Po Hong Road.

429. Mr NG Kin-fung of HyD responded that HyD would seek approval for the removal of trees

in nearby areas from the relevant department. It was expected that the relevant works would

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commence in the first quarter of the following year upon approval.

XII. Date of Next Meeting

430. The Chairman announced that the next meeting would be held at 9:30 a.m.

on 14 January 2021 (Thursday). The meeting was adjourned at 5:54 p.m.

Sai Kung District Council Secretariat

December 2020

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