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20/1/2015 ultimate-guitar-valveking - Amp Mods - Electronics http://ultimate-guitar-valveking.wikispaces.com/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics 1/26 Amp Mods - Electronics (/Amp+Mods+- +Electronics) Editar 84 (/page/history/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics) … (/page/menu/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics) Amp Mods Electronics THIS SECTION IS NOT A COMMENTS PAGE MODS ONLY Many users buy the Valveking and are not satisfied with the tone straight out of the box. These users (myself included) modify the amp so that a much better tone can be gained out of it. It really is quite extraordinary how much of an improvement can be made with a few simple mods. Here is an overview of the more technical Electronics mods. Please read the disclaimer below, we don't want any electrified guitarists on our hands :). Please be sure to read the Warnings page before doing any mods to your amp. "...Pulling the chassis and poking around inside the amp however is dangerous deadly dangerous...." *DISCLAIMER* The standby switch does not turn off the voltage to the o/p valves anodes (plate) You can safely drain the capacitors by leaving the standby ON and turning OFF the power. The o/p valves will continue to draw current as the heaters cool down and drain the caps to a safe level.Remember to turn the standby switch OFF before you power up again to prevent cathode stripping the valves, Always remove the power connector before working on the internals. (recklessrog) The capacitors inside the Valveking Chassis are NOT selfdraining. Be sure to let them drain efficiently. Be careful! One method I use (cap47) is to pull a power tube with amp unplugged. Use a meter to check the voltages of each pin to ground. If voltages are present use a test lead with alligator clips clipped to chassis on one end. In the remaining end clip a resistor by one end and wrap the resistor with insulating tape exposing the remaining end as a probe to probe the socket. Probe each hole for each pin for approximately ten seconds to drain the charges. Recheck with a meter before proceeding with your work. If charge remains then repeat and recheck until the voltage is very low or gone. Recheck voltage occasionally for safety. The use of the resistor eliminates sparking when the charge drains. VK112 owners please read this first before modifying your amp. Please note there are now two versions of the VK112 those made before JanJune of 2011 (we can't place it exactly but it's in that range of dates somewhere) and those made after that that have now been dubbed Version 2's. We now have PDF schematics for both versions here on this page Warnings The difference is in the circuit just after V2 gain stage 2 and before the lead channels tone stack where Resistor 173 is now changed to 100k and placed in series with a new You are not a member of this wiki. Join now (http://ultimate-guitar- valveking.wikispaces.com/space/join) Dismiss

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    Amp Mods - Electronics (/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics) Editar 84 (/page/history/Amp+Mods+-+Electronics)

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    AmpModsElectronicsTHISSECTIONISNOTACOMMENTSPAGEMODSONLYManyusersbuytheValvekingandarenotsatisfiedwiththetonestraightoutofthebox.Theseusers(myselfincluded)modifytheampsothatamuchbettertonecanbegainedoutofit.Itreallyisquiteextraordinaryhowmuchofanimprovementcanbemadewithafewsimplemods.HereisanoverviewofthemoretechnicalElectronicsmods.Pleasereadthedisclaimerbelow,wedon'twantanyelectrifiedguitaristsonourhands:).

    PleasebesuretoreadtheWarningspagebeforedoinganymodstoyouramp."...Pullingthechassisandpokingaroundinsidetheamphoweverisdangerousdeadlydangerous...."

    *DISCLAIMER*Thestandbyswitchdoesnotturnoffthevoltagetotheo/pvalvesanodes(plate)YoucansafelydrainthecapacitorsbyleavingthestandbyONandturningOFFthepower.Theo/pvalveswillcontinuetodrawcurrentastheheaterscooldownanddrainthecapstoasafelevel.RemembertoturnthestandbyswitchOFFbeforeyoupowerupagaintopreventcathodestrippingthevalves,Alwaysremovethepowerconnectorbeforeworkingontheinternals.(recklessrog)

    ThecapacitorsinsidetheValvekingChassisareNOTselfdraining.Besuretoletthemdrainefficiently.Becareful!OnemethodIuse(cap47)istopullapowertubewithampunplugged.Useametertocheckthevoltagesofeachpintoground.Ifvoltagesarepresentuseatestleadwithalligatorclipsclippedtochassisononeend.Intheremainingendcliparesistorbyoneendandwraptheresistorwithinsulatingtapeexposingtheremainingendasaprobetoprobethesocket.Probeeachholeforeachpinforapproximatelytensecondstodrainthecharges.Recheckwithameterbeforeproceedingwithyourwork.Ifchargeremainsthenrepeatandrecheckuntilthevoltageisveryloworgone.Recheckvoltageoccasionallyforsafety.Theuseoftheresistoreliminatessparkingwhenthechargedrains.

    VK112ownerspleasereadthisfirstbeforemodifyingyouramp.

    PleasenotetherearenowtwoversionsoftheVK112thosemadebeforeJanJuneof2011(wecan'tplaceitexactlybutit'sinthatrangeofdatessomewhere)andthosemadeafterthatthathavenowbeendubbedVersion2's.WenowhavePDFschematicsforbothversionshereonthispageWarnings

    ThedifferenceisinthecircuitjustafterV2gainstage2andbeforetheleadchannelstonestackwhereResistor173isnowchangedto100kandplacedinserieswithanew

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    CapacitoratC105a50volt2.2nfCapacitor.LikethisSignalfromC100>C105>R173>AGND1.C149ischangedfrom50Volt1nftoa50Volt820pf.C100>C149>AGND1Thissupposedlybrightenstheampslightly(needsverification)alatheclipoutC149modinaversion1amp.Thischangemayhaveramificationstosomeoftheampmodificationspostedbelow.IfyournotsurebyallmeansaskeitherhereorattheVKthreadatUltimateGuitars"GuitargearandAccessories"forum.ValveKingThreadMKIIThesecondchangemade...Thecircuitboardtracefromthesend/returnloopsreturnsidetothepowerampcircuitboardhasbeenreplacedwithaplugandashieldedcablerunningfromaplugnearthereturnjacktothepowerampboard.ThischangewasmadetoeliminateaslightlylouderhumsomeuserswhereexperiencingintheVK112.TheVK212andVK100alreadyhavethiscablefromthefactory.

    OfcoursePeaveydoesnotofficiallyacknowledgethattherearenowtwoversionsoftheVK112amp.Luckyus::eyeroll::Theonlywaytotellfor100%certainisaskpeaveywhenyourVK112wasmadeordropoutthechassisandcheckforafatcablethatgoesfromnearthereturnjackfromaplugtothepowerampboard.OrlookatR173toseeifitisa100kresistor.Version1boardswillhavea3.9megaohmresistorinthisspot.

    AnyonewithinformationonwhetherornottheVK212andVK100havehadtheabovefactorycircuitmodnearthetonestackdonetothempleaseletusknow.

    IwonderedwhytherehadbeenatailoffofpostsontheVKthreadabouttheampssoundingdarkandmuddy.

    R100modTher100modissaidtoimprovethegainboostcontrolandmakeitlesstrebly,cuttingandoverallharshwhenused.(CreditstratoJim)Ther100modiseasywithminimalsolderingexperience.Justgetaresistor(anywilldo)andusethesolderleadtogofromleadtoleadonresistor100(whichislabeled)therebybridgingtheresistor.Ther100modmadethegainboostfeatureusableandgreatforaclassicrocktonewiththegainlessthannoon.

    (Creditilyav)AbouttheR100mod:

    Removetheresistorandslama1Mpotthere.

    WhatdoyouthinktheNoiseGateonthePeaveyJSXis?

    R171cleanboostmod(Credit65SG,submittedtowikibySadisticSponge)

    Thismodallowsthegainfunctiontoworkonthecleanchannel.Theendresultisavolume/trebleboostforthecleanchannelthathelpsgiveitabitextrapunch.TodothismodsimplylocateR171andcutit.Thatisall!

    Originalthread:http://forums.peavey.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=12702&p=84667

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    Sadistic_Spongenotes:Ihavethemesamodengagedhere,meaningR122isremoved,meaningthatthegainboostisalwaysengaged.ThisdoesNOTimpactthismod'sfunctioningasfarasIknow.ItsoundsgreatandaddsalittlefunctionalityIcanimagineitbeingsuperusefulandit'seasyasallhell.

    AnyonedoingThisModmaybeinterestedinalsoaddingaBALANCEpottoequalisethebiastoeachO/Pvalve.Evenmatchedsetscandrawdifferrentamountsofcurrentandastheyagethiscanbecomequitepronounced.IfanyoneisInterestedIwillpostdetailsofhowtodoit.(recklessrog)

    BiasPotModThebiaspotmodallowstheampusertoadjustthebiasofthevalvesusingadialthatismoddedintothebackoftheamp.Thisallowstheusertodialoutsomeofthesterilityinthetoneandgenerally"warmup"theamp.(CreditstratoJim)Thebiasmodreallywarmeduptheampandtookoutalotofthegrittinessandincreasedresponsiveness.Itwasverynoticableinthecleanchannelbutaffectedthewholetone.

    PeaveyVK112BiasMod(creditcap47)

    ByCharlesPeck06/06/2009InthispackageIwilldiscussthestepsItooktomodmyVK112sothatitcanbebiasedmanually.Besidesthepartsthatareshownyouwillneedtoolsforthejob.Belowisalist.1.Goodqualitysolderingiron.2.Cuttingpliers(small)3.17/64drillbit4.Countersinkfordeburring5.Drill6.Multimeter7.BiasRiteorsimilar8.Smalldiameterelectricalsolder(rosincore)9.Ashoehornorpaintcanopenertoremoveknobs10.Cutyourselfsomewoodblockstopropboardon,longenoughtoreachacrosschassisandnottoothick11.WrenchestoremovejackandpotnutsandStandbySwitch12.SmallPhillipsscrewdriverandmediumsize.Smallflatblade.Thispictureshowsthepartsforthebiaspotmod.Youneedoneeach.IftheWeberbiaspotisnotavailibletryMojotone25KLor50KLpot.Also50KTrimmerPot#9010105.Justaboutany25KLor50KLwouldwork,theyarenotlockingthough.6/01/12cap47AlsoWeberWP253slotlockisa25Kbiaspot.

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    Tostart,Iinsertedmybiasprobesandtookreadingsoneachtubebeforeproceedingandrecordedthosereadings.Ialsotookreadingsacrossthe15kresistortouchedatleftterminalandprobedcenterterminal.Ithenpresettheresistanceforpotwith15kresistorto33k.Sameastheresistoryouwillberemoving.Usingalligatorleadsontheterminalsandyourmultimeterleadssoyoucanadjustsetting.Nowyouarereadytodisassembletheamp.Makesureampisunpluggedleavingstandbyon..DrainsCaps!

    Removealltubes,powerandpreamp.Unplugspeakerandreverb.Thereverbhaswhiteplugatthechassissoyoudon'tneedtounplugatthetank.Justpullgently.Takeoutthetwoscrewsunderbackledge.RemovethePeaveylogoatfrontandthemetalplateatfrontjustunderchassis.Nowremovethe4longboltsatthetopoftheampandsupportthechassis.Youthenslidethechassisoutandputonyourworkbench.Nowitistimetogentlyprytheknobsoffeachpotonthefrontofchassisusingtheshoehornasshown.

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    UseappropriatewrenchtoremovenutsfromStandbyswitch,potsandfrontjacks.Checkstandbyswitchwithmmforvoltagebeforeproceeding.Alwayscheckvoltagesforsafety.Thecapacitorsarenotaccessibleuntilboardhasbeenremovedandflipped.VKisNOTselfdrainingSeeDisclaimerabove.Iassumenoresponsibilityifyouundertakethismod.Ifyoudon'thavetheexperience,don'tdoit.Thereasonthestandbyswitchisremovedistogiveyouroomtoflipthemainboard.Youwillfindaplasticwiretiethatholdsthewiresneartheswitches.Clipandremoveit.Powerswitchstaysin,donotremove.

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    Nowyouwillfindsmallblackscrewsholdingtheboardin.Approximately7orso.RemovethemwiththeappropriatesizePhillipsscrewdriver.Withthestandbyswitchlooseyoucangentlyliftandslidetheboardoutoffrontpotandjackmounts.LocateresistorR205ontheboard.Thisisthebabyyouwillremove,markit'spositionontheoppositesidewhenboardisgentlyflipped.Withboardturnedslidethewoodblocksundertheboardforsupport.NowyoucancheckvoltageatCapacitors.Shouldn'tbeany.Bewaretho.Ifallisgoodvoltagelevelsyoucanproceedtounsolderthe33kresistoratR205.Notethisprocesscanbefollowedforthe39kresistorfortheVK212andVK100head.Onlydifferenceispresetthepotandresistorinseriesto39k.Useaprobetopullitdownoneachpinuntilitcomesout.Cleanoutthe2holes.Takethenewresistorandcutoneleadabout1/4ononeendonly.Insertthatendthrufarenoughtogetitsolderedtotheboardattheleftholeshowninpicture.Beforegoingtoofarthoyoushouldtestplacethebiaspottodeterminewheretodrillthe17/64holeformountingtochassis.Seepicture.

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    Theboardisshownherewhereitmountsbutisnotyetscrewedbackin.Onceyouhaveampleclearancetogetpotconnectionssoldereddrillanddeburrtheholeinchassis.Cleanallchipsoutofthechassisandboardareasusingasmallvacuumorblowitoutgoodwithacanofair.Don'twantanychipsshortingthingssocheckgood.Mountthebiaspotasshownandgentlytighten.

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    Nowinsertthejumperintotheotherboardholeandsolderatthecircuitside.Fliptheboardbacktoitsfinalassemblyspotandgentlybendtheresistorwithsmallpliersuntilitmeetsthepotterminalshown.Putashimundertheterminalsotheleaddoesnotshorttochassisandsolderittotheterminal.Repeatwiththejumperandsolder.Myjumperisactuallytworesistorleadssolderedtogether.Besureyoumadegoodsolderjoints,veryimportant.Damagecanbedoneifitisnotagoodconnection.Noticewhichterminalswereused.Inthispicturethefarrightisnotused.Byusingtheleftoneandthemiddleitgivesyouanincreaseinmilliampsgoingclockwise.IftheotherendterminalwereusedinsteadoftheoneshowntheincreaseinmilliampswouldhavebeenCCW.Checkallyourworkandmakesureitisclean.Putthescrewsintheboardsnug.Putthestandbybackin.Puttheplasticnutsonallthejacksandonlyfingertight.Thenutswillsplitifovertightened.Putthemetalnutsonthepotsandsnugthem,don'tovertighten.Pushtheknobsbackonandreassembletheampinreverseoftakingitapart.Rememberwepresettheohmratingofthepotwiththe15kresistor.NowyouhavetousetheBiasRiteorsimilartosetthebias.Itisbesttouseanoldsetoftubestostartwith.Thepotshouldbecloseenoughtogetitfinetuned.Onceyouareconfidenteverythingworksrightyoucanputinthegoodtubesandtuneitin.

    Nowthegoodpart.Playthedamnthing!

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    BiasTestJacksDonebyJason43onhis212headconversionVK.>Allowseachindividualpowertubebiastobetestedwithease.Testjacks:

    Forthis,youneedtoinstalla1ohm,1wattresistoracrosspin8ofeachpowertubeandground.Thereisajumperoneachsocketthatconnectspin8toagroundtraceonthepcb.Removeeachjumperandreplacewiththeresistor.Onceyoumountthetestjacksinthechassis,runawirefrompin8ofeachpowertubesockettoeachoftheredtestjacks.Theblackjackconnectstoground.ThejacksaresoldthroughWeberspeakers.

    PLEASENOTE!!!theresistorsshouldreallybe3Wattwirewound.Thisisbecauseifthevalveshoulddevelopashortcircuitanda1wattmetalfilmorcarbonresistorisused,itwillburnoutandgoopencircuitleavingthetestpointatapossiblyHIGHVOLTAGE!!!Apartfromtheobviousshockhazzard,itcoulddamageyourtestmeterifyouhaveitsetonalowrange.IdeallythemainpowerfuseshouldblowBEFOREtheresistor!!!!(recklessrog)

    AlternativeBiasPot&TestJackPositionsCredit:NikPlayer(sizzlingbadger)5thFeb2011

    Thisallowsthebiastobemeasuredandadjustedviatherearpaneloftheamp.

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    TipsonbiasCreditGioBos

    Measuringthevoltageoftheplate,onmyValveKing,theresultwasof470V.Itshouldbethesameonotherversions.Suggesttheformulaforthebias,basedontheplatevoltageoftheValveKing:

    mA=[(0.6*30)/470]*1000

    0.7=70%ofthepower(suggestedcalculationfrom50%to70%)

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    30=Maximumwattagedissipationof6L6

    470=platevoltage

    Recommendedbias:

    Coldbias:approximately31ma(50%poweratidle,suggestedformetaltone,tubelonglife,highheadroom)

    Averagebias:approximately38ma(60%poweratidle,suggestedforall,tubenormallife,midheadroom)

    WarmBias:approximately45ma(70%poweratidle,suggestedforWarmtone,tubeshortlife,lowheadroom)

    Thesedatabasedonacalculationofthecorrectbiasofthe6l6tubesonvalveking.Iwouldrecommendgoingbyearandtaste,from30to45.

    StockbiasinmyValveKingwas21,justtoocold!!andmainreasonforthestockcrossoverdistortion.

    FootswitchDelayFix(C124mod)(onlyapplicabletooldermodels)Thefootswitchmodisdesignedtofixtheslightdelaywhenchangingchannelsonthefootswitch(thisonlyhappensonoldermodelssouserswhohavenotexperiencedthisproblemneednotcarrythismodout).BelowisacopyoftheemailcorrespondencebetweenaVKuserandPeaveyTechnicalSupport:(creditMathamology)

    OriginallyPostedbyme!Hithere,

    Iassumethisisthecorrectaddresstosendthismessageto!IownaPeaveyValveking112(serialnumberK0238806),Ibelieveitisoneoftheoldermodels.AsI'msureyouareaware,thereisadelaywhenswitchingbetweenthetwochannels.Afterabitofresearch,IfoundsomethingthatsuggestedtheremovaloftheC124capacitorinthecurcuitwouldsolvethisissue.Couldyoupleaseclarifyif:

    A.ThisistrueB.Ifitistrue,doIneedtoreplacethecapacitorwithanything?C.Iknowit'snotreallyassociatedwiththepowersection,butdoesthiscapacitorhavethepotentialtoshock?

    Ihopetohearfromyousoon,andmanythanksinadvance,

    Hereistheirresponse:

    OriginallyPostedbyPeaveyHelloMatt,

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    Thankyouforyourquestion.

    Yesthisdoesimproveswitching.Thechangeisremovalandwillnotneedsubstituted.

    Youhavetobeverycarefulwithallvalveampsastheycanstoreextremelyhighvoltagesevenwhentheunitisnotpoweredup.

    RegardsBrian

    Fixingtheswitchdelay,asadvisedbyPeaveyTheremovaloftheC124capacitorintheValvekingshouldimproveswitchresponse.Thecapacitordoesnothavetobereplaced,socompleteremovalshoulddothejob.Asmallpairofclipperswillbesuffucienttoremovethecapacitor.

    (Creditilyavforfinding,PeaveyForumsforsource)Here'swhatI'vedonetoreducechannelswitchingdelayinmyVK100head.

    Firstofall,youneedtounderstandwhythereisadelay.Ifyouhavetheschematic,noticeQ101,thisFETisusedasaswitchthattemporarilymutestheaudiosignalwhiletherelaysswitchchannels.Thiswasaddedinordertoremovetheshortpopthatiscreatedwhenswitchingfromcleantolead.Therefore,thetemporarymutingisnecessary,butitdoesn'thavetobesolongasitcurrentlyis.WhatImeanisthatyoucanremovesomemuting,butshouldn'tremoveallofit.

    Solet'sgettobusinessthewaythiscircuitworksisasfollows.Wheneitherthefrontpanelswitch,orafootswitch,isusedtochangechannelsthevoltageatR142changesfromgroundto+14V.C131onlyletsthechangeinvoltagereachtheTriacandpullsdownthegateofQ101veryfast.ThisresultsinQ101mutingtheaudiosignalforsometime.ThegateofQ101willremainatgrounduntilitispulledbackupto+14VbyR138.TheexactamountoftimeittakesforR138todothisisdictatedby2factors:TheRCtimeconstantformedbyR138&C130,andbytheVgsoffofQ101.IfyoulookatthedatasheetofQ101(J174),you'llfindthatVgsoffcanbeanywherefrom5Vto10V.Solet'susethemedianvalueof7.5Vforsimplicity'ssake.ThismeansthatthemutingwillbecompleteandtheaudiowillreturnwhenR138haspulledthegateofQ101uptoroughly7.5V,whichisabout53%ofthetotalvoltage.Ifyouunderstandtimeconstants,you'llknowthatR138*C130=timeittakestoreach63%ofthetotalvoltage.Sotakeoutyourcalculatorandmultiply2.2Mby22nandyouget48.4ms(theactualtimeisabitlessdueto63%>53%),thismutingtimeisdefinatelylongenoughforanyonetohear.

    Sohowcanyoumakethisfaster,wellyoucanreducethesizeofC130orR138,butreducingC130willaffectboththeturnONandturnOFFtimesofthemutingcircuit,soIrecommendreducingthevalueofR138.I'vechangedR138to1MinmyVK100andfoundthatchannelswitchingfromcleantoleadwasmuchfasterandnotnoticeableanymore.Ofcourse,duetothehugerangeofVgsoffinQ101(5Vto10V),youmightnotgetthesameeffectbyusing1MinR138.Soexperimentwithsmallervalues,470kisprobablythelowestyoushouldgo,butrememberthatifyoumakeR138toosmall,somechannelpoppingmightstartshowingupatthespeakersinceyou'reinhibitingthemutingcircuit.

    (creditilyav)"SAGResistor"Modw/bypass

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    Nosounddifferenceinlowvolumes,Butwhenplayingloud(Powertubesneedmorecurrent)TheresistoractslikeaTubeRectifier.Link:http://studentweb.eku.edu/justin_holton/sag.html

    Beautiful.

    TheresistorlowersthePlateVoltageby25v(Biasunchanged)likea5V4GA.Alsolowersthebiasfrom40ma(460v,45v)to25ma(435v,45v).ButwhenIrebiasto40mathevoltagedropis50vlikea5R4GYB.

    Ohwell...GotmeaTubeRectifierEmulationSagSwitch.

    (creditilyav)*AlsomadetheDistortionchanneltighterbychangingstheC103from2.2nto1n.madethebassrolloffat700hz(300hzold).

    A/ABPotremoval*RemovedtheA/ABclassPot.(Madetheampalotlouder)noshitinthesignal.Hereiswhatilyavsaidhedid:RemoveA/Bpotandit'swires{leavegroundwireperhisedit)(clip/unsolderthem)ChangeC144to47N(tobe=toC135)oryoucanusetheexistingC144inserieswithunsolderedC1fromtheA/ABboard.Capsinseriesbehavelikeresistorsinparallel.Ex.Cap47inserieswithCap47isCap23.5.Nowsolderasmalljumperfrompin8totheC144legnearit.Editbyilyav:Thereisagroundwireinthe4wiresoftheA/ABpot,leaveitconnectedclipthe3others.

    *ModdedthePItothisscheme:http://www.freewebs.co.uk/valvewizard/cathodyne.html

    *RemovedtheFXloopmodIdidearlier.

    *AddedaMarshallSwitchwhichleavestheDistortionchannelwithonly

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    2gainstages(insteadof4)andEQ.(likeMarshallPlexi).

    (creditilyav)

    JCM800modI'vegottopostitguys...My(old)JCM800/Marshallmod.

    Whatitdoes:Itbypassesonegainstage.Theonewiththediodes(whichIremovedanyway).Andleavesyouwith3gainstages&theEQonthegainchannel,(justlikeJCM800).*VKhas4gainstagesonthedistortionchannel,thatswhyitstoosaturated&notarticulateenough.TheJCM800has3thenEQ&Plexihas2thenEQ.

    AlsoIbypassedtheC149,itwascuttingthehighendotherampshave.*(thisisessentialtotheMarshallsound),(onthephoto).*Notshownonthephoto,butwasaddedlaterontheDPDTswitch,toreturntheVKtoitsoriginalsound.

    SoundsBEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!I'vegotamazingCLEANsoundwithgaintill5,YesCLEANsound.VeryPlexilikedrivewithgainon10.WiththeGainboostOn.itsHEAVEN.NoboostingPedalsneededjustarticulatebeautifulROARINGdistortion.

    NowIcanactualycontroltheAmpsdrivewithmyguitarvolume.

    Hereitis:ClickmyAvatarforSoundSamples.orhere:http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8456721*EverythingwasrecordedONLYontheLeadChanneloftheVK(ontheJCM800mod).*ThefirstfewriffsGainon3,5,7,10(noboost).*OneSM571inchawaysfromgrill,ontheedgeofthecap.

    *IactuallyliketheCleansontheleadchannelbetternow.*PlayedwiththeNeck&BridgePUinnoorder(EMG85&81).(mindtheplaying,Itwasonlyforthedemo).

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    Howdoesitwork:UseDPDTONONSwitch.1.TakethesignalfromtheC106&R106junctiontooneoftheswitheslegs.2.UnsolderR107'sleftleg(onphoto)solderittotheotherleg.3.TheCenterleggoestowhereyouunsolderedtheR107(lefthole).

    *ifyouwanttheC149back:SolderC149totheVKsideontheswitch,&tothebottomlegofwhereitwas.SoldertheCentertoground,upperlegofwhereitwas(onthephoto)

    Thatsit.Allitdoesisselectsif2(JCM)or3(VK)stagesgoingintothelaststagethenEQ.

    Themastervolumeispointlessnow,asIcanhaveanythingfromcleantoCrunchtoFullonMetaljustbyplayingwiththeGain&ModSwitch.Iwantedtoinstalltheppimastervolumetomakethecleanchannelcruch,Don'tneedtoanymore.

    ThereisanewJCMmodfromthePeaveyForums.Credit65SG!Usethislinkhttp://forums.peavey.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=27933Addedbycap47.Readallforinfoandcomment!

    TestimonialbySadistic_Sponge:ImoddedmyVK112withboththeMESAmod(seebelow)andtheJCM800mod.TheJCMchannelfeelsatadthickerwithmoreballstoitbutlessgain,whilethemesamodeisabittighter.BothsoundMUCHbetterthanthestockVKdistortionand

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    theyhaveMUCHmoredefinitionandthefizzinessofthedistortionisnowgone!

    TestimonialbyLivingExperiment:ImoddedmyVK112andALSOmyVK212withilyav'sJCM800mod.CleanchannelstayedthesameandwascompletelyunaffectedwhichIreallyliked.WhenyoucompletethismodallyourfavoriteEQsettingswillhavetochangeforthedistortionchannel.Ifyoucanlivewiththat,dothismod.BothofmyVK'ssoundamazingnow,andIwishIhaddonethissooner.Everythingat12oclockonthegainchannelmakesaniceBushMachineheadtone,butcrankthedistortionandtweaktheEQandyoucannowdometal.VK212hadtobecranked(justlikeanyMarshall)togetthesametonethattheVK112hasatlowervolumes.IhavealsodonetheMESAmod.Whilebothmodsare,nojoke,10xtimesbetterthanstockVKdistortion,IpreferJCM800totheMESAmodsincemybandLivingExperimentdoes"danceablerock"coverbandstuffandsomemetal.IfwedidprimarilymetalstuffI'dgowiththeMESAmod.AddedbyLivingExperiment

    Justanote:Idid65SG's'new'JCMmodtoatee,excepttheresistoracrosstheswitchcontactstoeventhevolumebetweenthetwoleadchannel'modes',asIdidn'thavea750kresistorhandy,anddidn'twanttorunanyinseries(extrasolderjoints,potentialforworsesoundjunkinsignal,etc).Anywho,Iputitallbacktogether,trieditout,andforsomereasonmytwomodes(whiletheysoundliketheyshould,whichisAWESOMEnow,thanksto65SG'stutorial)don'thaveadifferenceinvolume,justthedifferenceingain/tone.Iamrunningapeaveyvalveking212(oneofthenewerrevisions).PRS_Tim

    (creditilyav)

    MESAmodItmakesthegainchannelmilliontimesbetter(exaggerating).MesaandBognerlike(Notexaggerating).

    RemoveR122(nojumperneeded).LeaveR124inplace(Don'ttouchit).R116to10k(Wattagedon'tmatterhere).(10Khasmoregain,22Khasless...tightnessoftonedependsonEQandsetup)

    Thetonestackcap&resistorarecrutialtoMesasoundC2to470pFR4to47k

    Ifit'stoodarkremoveC149(cutonelegofit).

    Thecleanisunaffected.You'lllosethelowgainoption(alwayshighgainnow,withlessgain[10k]).*ButstillcanbeveryloworVeryhighgain.Thestructureandarticulationofthegainnowisfenomenal.ThegainbuttonnowcontrollsC115(470n)on/off,Soldano(off),Mesa/Bogner(on[tighter])*Ifyoulikedthegainchannelwithaboostpedal,you'll"Die"fromhappinessonthismod.(ithasplentyofgainnowonthenormalgain,andplenty&tightergainonthegainon.

    TheMesamodremovesthelowgainmodecompletely.Anditlowersthehighgainmodeabitandmakesthesoundmuch,muchcleaneranddefinedbut

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    stillwithplentyofgain.

    Thegainswitchnowactslikeafatbutton.Whatwasthelowgain(off)nowhasplentyofgain.Andwhatwaswiththegainbooston,nowisalotmoredefinedandclear.

    (creditStefan_L_01)

    JustanoteabouttheMesaMod:Thehighertheresistorvalue,thelowerthegain.Itriedonce39kandthisalmostdisabledthisstage,reducingittothe"normal"gainmode.Itslogic,witha100korsoyouwouldhavethecathodyanphasesplitterwithgain1...

    Soifyouwantkeepanoticabledifferencebetweenthe3stagegainand4stagegain,idusemax.10k.Thisalreadyreducesgainalot.Youcancompensatewithahighergainsettingofthecontrol,butagain,the2gainchannelsgetclosertogether.

    Ifyouneedalowgainrocktoneandahighgainmode(coverband),leaveitthewayitis,orincreaseitslowlyandfindthebestsettingforyourstylemix(2k,4k,10k,20k).

    SadisticSpongenotes:AfterdoingbothMesaandJCMmodsIhaddifficultytellingthetwochannelsapart.BasedonStefan_L_01'sobservationschangingR116to5khelpstheissueimmensely.IalsochangedR101to100ktomakethemesamodemoredistinct.Lastly,makesurethatyouuseappropriateresistorvaluesifyouuse65SG'smesamod.Thisvariesdependingonyourtubesetup,soyoumightneedtotroubleshoot.Ihave470kand220kanditworksgreat.

    I'vealsoputa20kpotinplaceofR116,whichletsmetakethechannellowergainthantheJCMmodetoultrahighsaturation.Note,however,thatyoushouldputa2kresistorattachedtothepotoritwillsqueallikeastuckpigwhenyouturnitalltheway!

    WARNING:Youhavetobeverycarefulwithallvalveampsastheycanstoreextremelyhighvoltages,evenwhentheyarenotpoweredup!Youhavebeenwarned!

    ___

    VK112ExternalSpeakerJackforinternal/externalspeakeruse:Aswealreadyknow,whenusingthe"stock"ext.speakerjackitshutsofftheinternalspeaker...bummer!!!SoIhaveaddedanexternalspeakerjackofmyown...ThisisVERYeasyand...

    DOESNOTREQUIRETHEREMOVALOFANYTHING...

    Youwillneed:amono1/4"standardjack,asuitablejackplate,a11.5'lengthof16ga.speakerwire,

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    acoupleoffemalesolderlessspadeconnects,adrilland7/8"woodborebitandscrewstomountthejackplate...

    First,DrillaholeinthebottomrearpanelofyourVK112withthe7/8"bit...

    Second,Attachthesolderlessconnectstooneendofthespeakerwire,makngnoteofplusandminus...Thenattachthemtothecorrespondingterminalsonthe"stock"speaker...

    Third,Threadthespeakerwirethroughthe"guides"ontheinsideoftheVK112cabandoutthroughtheholeinthelowerpanelthatyoudrilled...

    Fourth,Solderthethespeakerwiretothejack,againmakingnoteofplus(tip)andminus(shield)...

    Fifth,Mountthejacktotheplate...

    Sixth,Mounttheplateassemblytothecab'slowerpanel...

    Seventh,Vacuumtheinsideofthecabtoremovethesawdust...

    That'sit!!!YoucannowpluginandrunanexternalcabwiththeinternalVK112speakersimultaneously!!!

    WARNING!!!Thiswirestheinternalspeakerandanexternalcabinparallel..BecarefultoONLYusea16ohmexternalcabwiththisconfiguration!!!PeaveyrecommendsaMINIMUM8ohmloadfortheVK112...

    Enjoy!!!

    MayGodBless,Luckyman77

    _

    ThislinkisamodtakenfromaUTubemodandrefineduponbycap47.Thelinktakesyoutotheoriginalpostdetailingthemod.http://www.ultimateguitar.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25566983&postcount=10147

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    GainStage#3Enhancement(byjdoorn01)Throughamalfunction,IgotalotoftimeinexperimentingwithmyValveKing212.Q103somehowbrokedownandbecamefused,whichseemedtoaffectthebiasofgainstage#2.Whileitwasmalfunctioning,thetoneofthegainstagewasgreat.WhenIfixedit,Ifeltitwaslackingabit.IfoundthatGS3wasagreatstagetofoolaroundwithtoremedythisloss.

    Here'swhatI'vegot:RemoveC149(improvesGainChannelbrightness)ReplaceR101(150k)witha100kresistor,Iwentwith1/2wattCF.

    Whatthisdoesisdecreasethegainslightlyofthethirdgainstagewhileincreasingtheproportionofevenorderharmonics(gooddistortion).Itsoftensthesoundoftheampslightly.ThisgetsitalittleclosertoJCM800territory.Ifyouwantedtogotheextramile,itmightbeworthswappingthefirsttwogainstagesloadresistors,R103andR104,with100kresistorsaswell.Ididnot,asthiswouldaffecthowglassythecleanchannelis.

    NotethatifyouhavetheJCM800modfromilyav,thiswon'taffectanythingin"JCMmode."

    SadisticSpongenotes:YoucanalsogetawaywithremovingC117tobrightentheampaswell.I'veactuallyremovedboth,thoughthesoundmightwealittletoosharpforsomepeople.Inthiscaseputa470pFresistorinplaceofC149.

    50/100WSwitch(VK100/212ONLY)(jdoorn01)

    Here'sanidealiftedfromMesa/BoogieLonestars,verysimple.

    IfyouremovetheTextureboard,youcanhavesomethingbetter,imo.Savethe100ncap(C1)andinstallitinserieswiththe100ncap(C144)onthepowerampboard.Thiscloselymatchestheothersideofthesplitter(C13547nF).Alternativelyyoucouldreplacethepairwitha50ncap.YoumustusethissetofcapstobridgethegapleftbyremovingtheTexturecircuit.RefertotheVK100/212schematicfordetails.

    Onceyou'veaccomplishedthis,throwaDPDTswitchinitsplace.LocatethecathodejumpersforeitherV7&V6ORV5&V4,pin8.Takealeadfromthepin8sideofthejumperfromeachofthetwotubesyou'vechosenandruneachofthoseleadstotheirowncontactontheswitch.Takethegroundsideofthejumper,orjustsoldertothatfatgroundtraceandbringthattothetwocommoncontactsonyourDPDTswitch.

    Whatthisdoesisdisconnecttwoofthepowertubes,onefromeachsideofthepush/pull,anddeactivatesthecathodeground.ThisishowMesadoesitintheLonestar100Wseries.

    *Besurethatyouaredeactivatingonetubeoutofeachpairthatformsthepush/pull.ThatwouldmeanyouwoulduseV7&V6ORV5&V4,notV7&V5orV4&V6.

    ThisallowsyoutodothesamethingasinaMarshall,whereyoucouldpulleithertheinsideoroutsidepairsoftubestocutitfrom100Wto50W.SincetheVKusesseriesheaters,wecan'tjust

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    dothat.Thisgetsarounditandisslightlymoreconvenient,IMO.

    BufferMod(takeoutannoyingtreble)(CreditGiordanoBoschettigiobos)

    PleasebesuretoreadtheWarningspagebeforedoinganymodstoyouramp.Thisisaverysimplemod.Noteveryonelikestheeffectofhighendbufferloop,includingmyself.Infact,especiallyinhigain,feelsveryannoyingtreblethatmakethesoundoftenconfused,andcrossoverdistortionlike.Solution:Lowpassfilter!

    Material:oneortwo.010uf50v(103pfor10nf)capacitorSolderonelegofthecapacitortotherightlegofr174,andtheotherlegofthecapacitortotherightlegofr169(thesignalgoestogroundhere),DONE!Soundunbuffered,buffered:witha.010ufcapacitoronsend,thesoundismoreorientedtothemediumfrequencies,thepot"treeble"nowcontrolsthemid/highfrequencies,cuttingthecrossoverfrequency,andgivingcream.Thedifferenceinvolumeisslightlyabovethesoundwithoutthebuffer.withtwo.010ufcapacitorsinseriestothesend(.005uf),equalizationandsoundareverysimilartothesoundwithoutabuffer,butmore"open",cuttingapartofthecrossoverfrequencies.Thedifferenceinvolumeisalmostlikethebufferstock.IusedaDPDTswitchforthis,positionedbetweenthemidrangeandtreblepot,onecapacitorortwocapacitorsinseries(bright),theresultistwoverydifferentsounds.itisalsopossibletosoldera5kpottorightlegofR173withthecapacitor.010ufthatgoestorightlegofr169,soastoallowanfineadjustment.IuseTungsolReissueV1,China12ax7BV2,SovtekLPSV3

    A/ABpotremoval(praticalalternative)(CreditGiordanoBoschettigiobos)

    First,thankstoilyav&cap47fortheinformations.

    Ifoundaconvenientandfastwaytodothis.

    Unsolderpottexture,andc1

    Cutthecentralpinoftheclip(theleftpinistheresonance,therightpinisground,thecenterpinsareconnectedtothepottexture,ValveKing112)

    Solderc1,betweenpin8andtheleftlegC144(C144&C1connectedinseries,ineffectabypassofthepot)

    Thepicturesaysitallmuchmoresimply.

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    Ifinsteadyouwanttochangethecapacitor,wemustactashesaidilyav,changeR144,pin8connectedwithajumperatR144

    HalfPowerMod(howtopulltheoutsidetubesonVK212and100)(Creditjmjlai)OneoftheeasiesttrickstoreducethepoweronaABpushpullampistopullthetwooutsideorinsidepowertubes.Thiscanusuallybedonebecausethetwoleftandtworighttubesareinparallel.OntheVK212&100,thiscannotbedonebecausetheheatercircuitiswiredinseries.Simplyput,yourampwon'twork.FollowingiswhatIdidtotakeouttheoutsidepowertubeswithoutpermanentlyaltering/damagingyouramp.IalsosentmymodintoaPeaveyengineerwhoreplied"Shouldbefine....nowarranty,though."Thisbringsthefullpowerto50WandIwouldassumetheclassApoweris25W.

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    Thekeytothismodisthatheatershavearunningresistancewhenhotwhichmustbematchedto:

    1. notoverloadthetransformer2. notoverheatthetube3. notunderheatthetube

    A6L6tubeisspec'dtorunat6.3V@900mAwhenrunning.Thereforetheresistancepertubeweareshootingforis7Ohmscapableofdissipatingatleast6W.Iused322Ohm,5Wresistorsinparallelpertube.Imountedthesetoperfboardandwiredtheresistorbankstotheheaterplugsonthetubesocket(DON'TMESSTHATUP!!!)Makesureyoulookatthepinout.Asfortubepins,Ifoundthat440machinescrewsworkgreat.Icrimpedthewirestospadesandusedlockingwasherstoensureasolidconnection.

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    Ialsoaddedacpuheatsynctotheresistorbankbecausetheresistorsweregivingoutenoughheattoburntheperfboard.Ithenscrewdtheperfboardintothesideoftheampandpresto!Inowhavea50Wamp!

    Onethingyouwillhavetoremember.resistorsaremuchmorelinearthanheaterfilamentssoyour2powertubeheaterfilamentswilltake35timeslongertostartglowing.makesureyouleaveyouramponabout5minutesbeforeyoutakeitoutofstandby.havefunbeingabletoturnyouramppast2!Whenpulling2powertubesona4tubeamptheohmsettingofyourspeakershouldbereducedby1/2(16to8,8to4ohmetc.).cap47

    KillingExcessHum(Creditto65SG,SubmittedbySadistic_Sponge)

    SomeVKshavetoomuchhumwhenidling,whichiscausedbygroundingissues.Thishelpstoeradicatethisproblem.Ihavelinkedthethreadbelowscrolldownabit,thesolutionyouwanthasyouusingsolderingwicktogroundthepotentiometersandinputs.NotethatthisthreadalsogivesdetailedinformationonhowtotestanddrainthefiltercapacitorsontheVKboardwithoutstickingthingsinyourpowertubepins(whichisactuallymypreferredmethod).

    http://forums.peavey.com/viewtopic.php?t=11148

    PeaveyVK112ModificationsQuickGuideTexturePot/R100conversion

    Removewires2and3fromtheP303/313jumper.RemoveC1andR3fromtheoutputbreakawayPCB.FitawirelinkinplaceofC1.RemoveR100andfittwolengthsofinsulatedwireinitsvacantholes.Fittheotherendofthesewiresintothepins2and3positionofP313.RemoveC144andreplaceitwitha47n400vPolyestersimilartothetypefittedatpositionC135.Fitajumperlinkbetweenpin8ofV3andtheterminalofthenewC144nearesttoit.Younowhavecontrollablegainboostandremovalofthenoiseinducing,

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    AyudaAcercadeBlogPrecioPrivacidadTrminosApoyoElevardecategoraContributionstohttp://ultimateguitarvalveking.wikispaces.com/arelicensedunderaCreative

    CommonsAttributionShareAlike3.0License.PortionsnotcontributedbyvisitorsareCopyright2015TangientLLC

    powersappingTexturecontrol.ImprovedistortioncharacterRemoveC149,removeC103,fitC149intopositionC103andleaveC149positionempty.RemoveR101andreplacewithvalue100k.DecreasechannelswitchingdelayRemoveC124andleaveitspositionempty,removeR138andreplacewithvalue1M.