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Presented by: Darrell Whiteside Director Sales-Tension Control MAGPOWR Understanding Dancer Tension Control Systems

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Page 1: Understanding Dancer Tension Control · PDF fileUnderstanding Dancer Tension Control Systems. 2 ... • Independent of velocity • Independent of direction of motion ≠ L 2T Effect

Presented by: Darrell WhitesideDirector Sales-Tension Control

MAGPOWR

Understanding Dancer Tension Control Systems

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• Manual systems

» Closed loop» Open loop

• Automatic systems

System Types

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Feedbac

k

Control adjusts brake torque up or down

B

Sensor measures tension

LC

Load Cell System

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DANCERCONTROL

BRAKE

SENSORPOSITION

Typical dancer control system

Dancer Systems

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Why Use Dancers?

Accumulation for Out-of-Round Rolls

Accumulation for Indexing Applications

Accumulation for Zero Speed Splicing

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DFP

How Dancers Work

1st Commandment

• The load on the dancer sets the tension!

2nd Commandment

• The load on the dancer must not change!

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+ MA + DV + KX

T T

L

M

X

2T = L

T = Web TensionL = Load Set by Loading

Device + Dancer WeightM = MassA = AccelerationD = Damping FactorV = VelocityK = Spring RateX = Deflection

Ideal Condition: 2T = LHow do we get there?

Forces (F) on a Dancer

00≈0

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Loading Dancers

LOAD

DFP

TC5

CGM

• 1 - Clutch and cable

Magnetic Particle

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1. Clutch and cable

Magnetic Particle2. Pneumatic cylinder and regulator

Use a rolling diaphragm type cylinder•Bellafram•Illinois Pneumatic•Control Air

Quick relieving

DFP

Loading Dancers

Air In

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1 - Clutch and cableMagnetic Particle

2 - Pneumatic cylinder and regulatorUse a rolling diaphragm type cylinder

3 – SpringsLoad changes as spring is stretched from rest position

4 - Weights (Counter balance)They add mass

5 - Shock absorbersLoad changes with velocity of dancer

DFP

Quick relieving

kg

Loading Dancers

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Dancer Arm:• Should be long enough• Should be positioned far enough away from adjacent

idler rolls so the load on the dancer arm does not change• Arcs of 30o- 90o are common

Loading Device should be:• Independent of position• Independent of velocity• Independent of direction of motion

2TL ≠

Effect of Position, Velocity & Direction

of Motion on Dancer

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DFP

Air Cylinder& Regulator• Velocity affects air cylinder & regulator combination• Pressure regulator can make or break dancer system• Must have sensitive relieving regulator (grab dancer arm & pull up quickly)

Air Reservoir

Recommended: Add an air reservoir between the regulator and cylinder. The reservoir volume must be much larger than the cylinder volume

Air Cylinder Loading ofDancer & Cautions

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Position Sensor

Assume 1° of Dancer rotation results in an output/torque change of 5 (lb-ft)….”Gain”What happens to Tension?

RollFull@lb5(ft) 1

ft-lb5ΔT ==)(

Gain Affects on Dancer Position

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Gain Affects on Dancer Position

CORE

R = .25 FOOT1 ROTATIONO

Assume 1° of Dancer rotation results in an output/torque change of 5 (lb-ft)….”Gain”What happens to Tension?

Core@lb20(ft) 0.25ft-lb5ΔT ==

)(

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Summary of GainAffects on Dancer Position

Review Roll DimensionsFull Roll Diameter of 1 (ft)Core Diameter of 0.25 (ft)

Tension Change Due to Roll Diameter Reduction5 lb @ Full Roll20 lb @ Core

} Roll Build Ratio of 4:1

}Tension Changes by the Roll Build Ratio, but Inertia (Unwind Gain) Changes by R3, or 1:64

Larger Roll Build Ratios are Common!

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Evolution of Gain(System Gain = Control Gain + Unwind Gain)

“The Past”w/o Gain Compensation

Full

Roll

Core

Diameter

Gai

n

System Gain w/o CompensationControl Gain w/o CompensationUnwind Gain

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Methods to MinimizeGain Affects

Reduce the Roll Build RatioImpossible!!!!

Operate Dancer Control with Low GainSlow Response (Sluggish)Dancer May Hit Stops

Set Gain Proportionate to Roll SizeUse a Gain Compensating Dancer Control

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Evolution of Gain(System Gain = Control Gain + Unwind Gain)

“The Past”

w/o Gain Compensation

Full

Rol

l

Core

Diameter

Gai

n

System Gain w/o CompensationControl Gain w/o CompensationUnwind Gain

“Today”

w/ Gain Compensation

Diameter

System Gain w/ Compensation Control Gain w/ CompensationUnwind Gain

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Summary

Use Dancer Systems for AccumulationOut-of-Round RollsIndexingZero Speed Splicing

Use a Quality “Non-Stick” Rolling Diaphragm Air CylinderMake the Arm as Light as possibleNo Springs, Dampers or WeightsFor Large Roll Builds use a Gain Compensating Control

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Thank you!

Darrell WhitesideDirector of Sales- Tension Control [email protected]

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