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A/C Refrigerant Information Panel Ward Atkinson – Former Chair, SAE ICCC Committee Peter Coll – Neutronics Refrigerant Analysis Mary Koban – DuPont Flouroproducts Jeff Murphy – RTI Division, MAHLE Clevite, Inc.

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Page 1: Ward Atkinson – Former Chair, SAE ICCC Mary Koban – DuPont ...eti-home.org/Public/TT-2013/Presentations/R1234yf Panel.pdf · The AC6 blend recovery/refill process, including the

A/C Refrigerant Information Panel

Ward Atkinson – Former Chair, SAE ICCC Committee

Peter Coll – Neutronics Refrigerant Analysis

Mary Koban – DuPont Flouroproducts

Jeff Murphy – RTI Division, MAHLE Clevite, Inc.

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Ward Atkinson – Sun Test Engineering

Former Chair, SAE Interior Climate Control Committee

• Technical Advisor to MACS Worldwide

• Numerous Awards for Work with SAE ICCC – EPA “Stratospheric Ozone Protection Award”

(1990/1997)

– SAE “Outstanding Contribution Award” (2009)

– Arch T. Colwell Cooperative Engineering Medal (1998)

• GM/Chevrolet Engineering (Retired 1981)

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Peter Coll – Neutronics

VP – Neutronics Refrigerant Analysis

• Board of Directors – MACS Worldwide

• SAE Interior Climate Control Committee

• Consultant to US Government Agencies, Foreign Government Agencies, and UNEP

• Working with Neutronics Since 1998

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Mary Koban – DuPont Flouroproducts

Opteon YF Mobile AC Technical Manager • Board of Directors – MACS Worldwide

• SAE Interior Climate Control Committee

• Working with DuPont Automotive Refrigerants Since 2006

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“How Did We Get Here?”

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1950’s | | | | | | 1996 | | | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013

EU Directive 2006/40/EC

1950’s - R12-based Front-Mounted A/C Systems Introduced

1990’s R134a-based A/C Systems Introduced

J2788 Adopted

Global Financial

Crisis!

VDA Confirms Use Of R1234yf

1st R1234yf Vehicle

Introductions

Daimler Announcement

1st SAE ICCC CRP Formed for R1234yf

US Clean Air Act

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R1234yf

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Reversal by Daimler

Industry Impact?

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R134a

R1234yf

Other Refrigerants?

C02

AC6

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R134a ≠ R1234yf

Cross Contamination

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Counterfeit Refrigerants How Big Is The Problem?

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R-134a is the biggest HFC, but HFCs are a small part of the global warming problem

Fossil Fuel HFC’s CFCs

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U.S. NCCTI Report October 12, 2001 Mobile A/C HFC-134a Emissions

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EPA Service R134a Fleet

31 Million Pounds

Graph 1

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New Global Refrigerants Studied

• R744 Carbon Dioxide • HFC-152a [secondary loop] • GAR Blends

• DuPont DP –1 • Honeywell Fluid H • Ineos Fluor AC-1 • Solvay

• HFO-1234yf – DuPont-Honeywell

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Alternative Refrigerant Development Program(s)

• Introduction of a replacement refrigerant – Very complex – Requires considerable time

• None are “Drop In” replacements • Requires US EPA “SNAP” Listing

– May require safety mitigation features

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What’s Needed To Consider New Refrigerants

• Toxicity • Material Compatibility • Component Refrigerant

Permeation/leakage Evaluation • Performance • Energy Requirements • Meet Regulatory Requirements

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New MAC System Refrigerant

Mexichem Low GWP Blend

AC6

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CRP-MRB Service Study

Testing Overview of Lower GWP Blend Refrigerants

Blend “AC6” Composition 6% CO2, 9% R134a, 85% R1234ze

Potential for composition shift of ternary blend composition whenever a vapor-liquid interface is created

Composition will vary as liquid level and temperature change

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MAC Service Issues using Blend Refrigerants

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The AC6 blend recovery/refill process, including the use of a “Refrigerant Identifier” to establish the correct CO2 composition for a production application, is currently under development

On-site Blend Recovery/refill

Refrigerant Charged Into

System at MAC Service

fittings

Service Equipment

Recovered /recycled

Refrigerant

Internal Container

CO2

Supply

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Where Does This Industry Need to Go?

• Expand Service to Include Total Vehicle Environment Management That Interface With HVAC systems – Include Hybrid and electric vehicles

• Control Systems (Electronic)

– Comfort of occupants and inclement weather visibility – Battery/electronic devices

• Recovery of waste heat (Engine Cooling Systems management)

• Heat pumps • Secondary loop systems

• New Technologies Requires Extensive Training

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