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AS MINNIE PEARL USE TO SAY!!

I'M JUST SO PROUD TO BE HERE!!!!!!! I didn't even know this group existed, I found it in a friend's groups. I am just so floating on air too find such a place. My God, I am one of them that worked their tail-end off in North Carolina to carry this place, I live here, been here since 2001 but it is not my home..i mean to offend nobody but by the time the election was over, I felt like a teacher in the special class with way-------- too many students. It worked though, leaving me very proud of myself and my country and for sure my President. Looking forward to meeting you all!

posted by irtsmom 8 days ago Reply Hi, irtsmom. Welcome. I've seen you around L&P. Glad you found your way here.

posted by MsTick1 7 days ago welcome to the group, irtsmom. I live in Texas, and can relate to the what you said, although I am in the Austin area, which is much more forward thinking and progressive than the rest of this state. I don't claim to be a Texan, either--have lived here a long time but never bought into all the Texas hype that most of the natives seem to just love-LOL..(no offense to any Texans here)

posted by stace50 7 days ago

Health Care Battle To Begin

BOOM itIt's a law of politics--for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction. With support mounting for some form of health reform that includes government intervention, a conservative group is mounting a $1 million television ad campaign asking Congress not to enact a government-run health plan along the lines of Britain and Canada

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posted by AZsunflower 8 days ago Reply hey, if they have that kind of money to spend on advertising, why don't they just donate to free clinics all over the nation? Lot of the laid off families could benefit.

Wonder how much of the $$$ is from insurance companies and drug companies.

posted by Rose2 7 days ago How about if we get the money from drug companies they use to advertise drugs that people will then go to their doctor and ask for.

posted by AZsunflower 7 days ago Actually they are trying to link Obama's health care plan to the ones in Canada and the U.K. Oh how I wish. But they are not the same but we will hear it repeated over and over trying to get us to deny reality. I've seen the commercial about 50 times now. Okay heard it in the background. Still I hope we can educate sufficiently so that this won't work this goround like it did against Hillary in the 90's.

posted by Labrys3 7 days ago Our country is crying out for health care!

posted by irtsmom 7 days ago

Think Simply

BOOM itPeople have misunderstood the term goals of this administration. They are all up in arms over increased programs and spending.

Think simply! You come home and you have a big mess in your front room. A huge pile. You must sort and expand this pile to get control of it. With the end result being a cleaner home and steamlined duties for the future. That is ALL the man is doing. Sorting through the pile of crap handed him, putting groups in charge of overseeing that the pile is addressed with the end result being a leaner, more efficient government in the next 4 years.

posted by Yesac1952 8 days ago Reply Replies 1 - 10 of 16 1 2 Next » Great explanation! Sounds so simple when put like that, but we have too many years invested in bureaucratic thinking to get everyone to see it that way.

posted by caroliam1 7 days ago couldn't have been said any better yesec

posted by aussielvncat 7 days ago preachin' to the choir here, casey my man--let's BOOM this

posted by stace50 7 days ago The thing is, the choir is the only ones that understand the song.

posted by redhand 7 days ago true, redhand, but it can't hurt to BOOM it and maybe knock some of the consevative crap down a peg on the front page

posted by stace50 7 days ago That was absoulty a great way to put it, if anyone can't grasp that they have to be a republican who is going to turn around and walk out and get on their cell and hire a clean and toss group and will never know the joys of what might have been left their for them to discover!

posted by irtsmom 7 days ago Great analogy! That's exactly what he is doing. Too funny irtsmom!

posted by richkats 7 days ago You all hit the nail on the head. Let's all run for office!

posted by bigred515 7 days ago No thanks, bigred. I don't EVER want my life, friends, family subjected to that kind of scrutiny.

posted by TwoSpirits 6 days ago The Bushwa Gang after looting the country and putting millions out of work left one hell of a mess. What is so hard to understand about that? I hate the analogy, but it is taking a black man to clean up after the white trash as has been done during the history of this country. President Obama has the smarts and the savvy to clean up the mess and set this country back on course to be the light of the world. But he needs our help.

posted by GenePark 6 days ago

NEXT UP: THE SUPREME COURT

BOOM itIt was anticipated Obama would get to name at least one justice, but this soon? Oy vey! So much on his plate.

Supreme Court Justice David Souter plans to retire at end of term in June

BY Leo StandoraDAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Updated Thursday, April 30th 2009, 11:16 PM

Supreme Court Justice David Souter plans to retire at the end of the current court term or when President Obama's choice to replace him is confirmed by the Senate, the White House confirmed Thursday night.

The 69-year-old Souter's departure after 19 years on the bench will give Obama his first chance to shape the high court's direction.

Read more: "Supreme Court Justice David Souter plans to retire at end of term in June" - view link

posted by obamamama 8 days ago Reply

Have you seen some of conservative sites

BOOM itOn eons they spit out the same things that you hear on FOX.

It like the Stepford Wives the FOX IDIOTS

posted by Media52 9 days ago Reply Replies 1 - 10 of 12 1 2 Next » I couldn't be bothered wasting an iota on their drivel...let them drown in thier own fear based bullshit

posted by stace50 8 days ago That's the difference between conservatives and liberals these days. Conservatives need confirmation, that's why they listen to Limbaugh and Fox, liberals don't, that's why Air America doesn't do so well. We don't need the propaganda 24-7.

posted by Pluto50 8 days ago FOX IDIOTS...I like that, it's a perfect description!

posted by ageingbeautifull 7 days ago Thanks aging.

We have to keep this White House for a couple more terms

posted by Media52 7 days ago

How can you be against hate crimes

BOOM itWell seems our ReBOOBlicans can.

Beating up a gay guy and then saying they were robbing him.

The Repubs are the equal opportunity PartyThe women are as dumb as the guys

posted by Media52 9 days ago Reply

:-) GOPASAUR

BOOM it

posted by obamamama 9 days ago

Reply LOVE IT! I copied it to my album on photobucket...I never understood why they were even called "GRAND old party"...more like GREEDY old pasty-faced putzes....now it's GONE old party LOL

posted by stace50 8 days ago

Opinion Please!

BOOM itWhat do you think of this text someone sent to me:It was once said that a black man would be president "When pigs fly." Indeed, 100 days into Obama's presidentcy "swine flu."

I admit initially I was a bit shocked & offended by it. Upon further reflection, it is very clever to me. I say this because at it's root, it reflects the affirmation of possibilies.

So what is your opinion? (BTW--I am a great fan & supprter of President Obama!)

posted by ZenaBAD 9 days ago Reply All they did was steal Rush Limbaughs line.Who earlier this week sais Obama goes to Mexicon and Pig Flu breaks out.

Is the person who sent you this a friend

posted by Media52 8 days ago clever play on words or at least thoughts.

And far more clever than Rush's. :)

ITTA with you.. it does reflect affirmation of sorts. at any rate it is or seems to be lighthearted.

posted by KitsuneRed51 8 days ago It's not "LOL" but "l." I'm not offended.

posted by obamamama 8 days ago a mild chuckle, not a hearty guffaw. Not offensive to me (swine flu = swine flew, I assume).

posted by LanaM 8 days ago

Speaking of Al Franken

BOOM itFollowing up on a conversation in another topic, speculation here in Minnesota is rife over when the Mn Supreme Court finally rules. Here is a pretty good guess, courtesy of MinnPost.com:

Coleman-Franken appeal: Make your best guess, as Minnesota Supreme Court expert predicts Decision Day

Las Vegas bookmakers haven't posted it yet, but Peter Knapp has set the "over-under" line for when the Minnesota Supreme Court will issue its decision on the Norm Coleman-Al Franken case.

It is June 18. By 6 p.m.

Take it to the bank. (Maybe.)

With Coleman's lawyers set to file their appeal brief today with the state Supreme Court, Knapp weighed in. He is the William Mitchell College of Law professor who is the world's most diligent observer of the state Supreme Court and its inner workings.

Knapp charts decisions. He notes decision turnarounds. He analyzes dissents. The guy might even know how often they send their robes to the dry cleaner.

"In typical civil and criminal cases, the court usually issues its opinions within three to five months," he said, "but there are cases in which the opinions come down eight or nine months after argument. Dissents usually occasion delay."

Would the Coleman appeal produce a unanimous decision from the five judges sitting on it?

What's your guess? Mine is unlikely.

The "over-under" is the number below or above a predicted score or benchmark. Thus, if gambling were legal in Minnesota, the under bettor would take June 17 and the over bettor June 19.

Why June 18?A few things: recent election-linked cases have moved relatively swiftly through the state's highest court; June 18 is a Thursday, and the Supreme Court's decisions are, generally, announced on Thursdays.

Peter KnappAnother thing: Knapp is guessing, in an educated way, of course.

"Election cases are an exception," he said. "The court usually issues its opinion within weeks of the oral argument."

In one election case that had to do with the wording of an initiative on a ballot, the Supreme Court actually issued an order in one day.

It said, more or less, "We know which way we're headed, let's not wait any longer," Knapp said. Then, a few weeks later a full opinion came down the pike.

Knapp said the Supremes are unlikely to act that swiftly on Coleman's appeal because, really, there's no election on the horizon.

"There isn't any hard and fast deadline," Knapp said.

Still, the Supreme Court's actions in the recount cases have been, relatively speaking, swift.

Take Franken's action earlier this year when he asked for his election certificate even before the end of the election contest trial.

Franken's lawyers filed their motion on Jan. 13. The court acted quickly and set a hearing for Feb. 5. A ruling came down a month later. That is breakneck speed … in Supreme Court time.

Earlier still, during the recount, on the matter of how to count rejected absentee ballots, Coleman's side sought a temporary injunction from the Supreme Court. Coleman filed papers on Dec. 15, the court rapidly heard arguments on Dec. 17 and had an order by Dec. 18.

Wham. Bam.

Don't expect that here, Knapp said. Not at all.

Remember, this isn't the only case on the Supreme Court's calendar. For May, the justices already have 13 cases listed for oral argument.

And, as Knapp noted, unlike many recount geeks out there, they haven't been glued to their computer screens watching the video stream of the election contest trial.

I'm told the transcript of the trial is sure to exceed 6,000 pages. In theory, the justices – or their clerks – will read all of those pages to guide them through the facts of the case.

And then there is the gravity of this case, or any state Supreme Court case. Judges aren't writing for today, Knapp said. "They're writing a decision for every single lawyer and every single judge. They think of themselves as writing for the future. That means every single word has got to be edited, revised and conform to what their decision states the law to be."

That explains why, in most cases, without such a spotlight, it takes the three to five months.

Knapp isn't privy to the entire process of how the justices write-by-committee, but in his research and in his reading of how the U.S. Supreme Court operates, he can conjecture.

He suspects the writing process on this Coleman appeal won't begin until after the oral arguments in this case, which won't be heard until June 1.

Then, the judges will conference and check out where each of them stands. (Remember, Chief Justice Eric Magnuson and Associate Justice G. Barry Anderson have recused themselves because of their earlier State Canvassing Board service.)

Presumably, Associate Justice Alan Page, the most senior of the five, will assign someone in the majority to write an opinion. That opinion, which will take a while to write, will get circulated among the five.

Others will fiddle, tweak and add. And if there's a dissent, that document will begin to circulate. The majority will respond to that written dissent. The dissent will further mold the majority's view.

Knapp was stunned when he heard partisans and others complaining that the Supreme Court set June 1 for the hearing date … a full six weeks after Coleman filed his motion for appeal.

"People said, 'It doesn't look like they're handling this quickly,' " Knapp said. "I said, 'Yeah, they are!' "

Those wheels of justice and, what Norm Coleman calls the task of "getting it right," take a while to turn.

Knapp does allow that Arlen Specter's recent decision to jump political parties could affect his over-under analysis, what with Franken potentially becoming the 60th Democratic senator.

The pressure building on the judges – already sizable – has grown because of the stakes.

"If I were betting, I might take the over," Knapp said of his own over-under.

Still, circle Thursday, June 18. Or call your legal bookie. The good professor knows his stuff.

posted by Labrys3 9 days ago Reply Thanks Labrys3........

posted by ageingbeautifull 8 days ago If I was still a resident in MN, I think I would be suing NORM for denying us representation!! Get over yourself NORM. If Wellstone had not died tragically, you would have already been gone!

posted by Yesac1952 7 days ago I truly will never forget the day Paul Wellstone died. I was out walking the dog. Suddenly one of my neighbors ran out the front door crying. Then a moment later here came another, then another.

"Paul and his family were killed in a plane crash." I felt my own tears well up.

It is rare for a politician to be so loved by their constituency. But Paul and Sheila Wellstone elicited that kind of love. See he truly did fight for the very least of us, and put himself fully into that work. Years later, you can drive around and still see the Wellstone signs in people's yards and in their windows, and the stickers on the cars. A popular bumper sticker around town now says, "What would Wellstone Do?" Al Franken is a good enough guy and I supported him. But Paul Wellstone was one of a kind. I miss him terribly.

posted by Labrys3 7 days ago The bumper sticker you mentioned...... I have seen one at a grocery store parking lot here in AZ. I waited near the car in hopes of talking to the person, but they did not come out of the store (I only had 20 minutes to kill).

I too remember that day, just like the day JFK was taken from us. I was cooking that afternoon when I got a call to turn the TV on! I got the chills (as I am right now AGAIN). Paul may have been a presidential candidate or VP, by now, if it had not been for that tragic moment.

I BELIEVE Al Franken will do the State on MN VERY proud.

posted by Yesac1952 7 days ago

Dems in power during flu, Bachmann notes

BOOM itBoomed on Eons ~~ posted about 3 hours ago FROM THE MOUTH THAT KEEPS ON MOVING

It was only a matter of time before the CDC discovered an outbreak of Michele 'Petunia' Bachmann quotes.

Bachmann, speaking on Pajamas TV, noted: "I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out then under another Democrat president Jimmy Carter. And I'm not blaming this on President Obama, I just think it's an interesting coincidence."

***

The 1976 swine flu scare happened on Gerald Ford's watch.

We checked Wikipedia.

Ford was a Republican.

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posted by obamamama 11 days ago Reply Well, I don't think anyone would be surprised to hear her latest gaffe, especially those of us in her district. Fabulous representation, n'est pas? Makes me feel like I did during the Nixon years, kinda creeped out all the time.

posted by caroliam1 10 days ago This poor excuse for human cells will say anything

She is more fun then watching Saturday Night Live

posted by Media52 10 days ago And not to mention great fodder for the Daily Show, I can't wait to see what Jon Stewart has to say about all that has transpired today!

posted by caroliam1 10 days ago What a bloody idiot. Disproves the theory that most politicians are second rate intellects, this one is fifth rate.

posted by GenePark 10 days ago Needs to joins the likes of Jerry Falwell. Boy, this republican party is really pathetic!

posted by Duchess358 10 days ago Just to put the swine flu in perspective, here's a statement from the CDC view link

ATLANTA, April 28 (UPI) -- There have been no U.S swine flu fatalities so far, but since January more than 13,000 people have died of complications from seasonal flu, officials said.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's weekly report said no fewer than 800 flu-related deaths were reported in any week between Jan. 1-April 18, the most recent week for which figures were available, CNN reported Tuesday. Seasonal flu is expected to keep killing hundreds of people every week for the rest of the year.

posted by MarketMama 10 days ago

FINALLY! AND ALL IT TOOK WAS A PANDEMIC!

BOOM itSebelius confirmed to lead Health and Human Services

(CNN) -- The Senate confirmed former Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius as secretary of Health and Human Services Tuesday on a 65-31 vote.

The timely vote will put Sebelius in office as the Obama administration is up against its first public health outbreak.

She steps into the role as swine flu numbers climb worldwide. As of Tuesday morning, at least 90 cases had been confirmed, including 50 in the United States. view link

posted by obamamama 11 days ago Reply

Right Off the Presses!

BOOM itArlen Spector has jumped ship and is now a Republican. That will permit him to move back to more moderate votes. When Al Franken takes his seat in June there will be a 60 vote majority. This is a very good day for Democrats.

posted by Labrys3 11 days ago Reply Replies 1 - 10 of 13 1 2 Next » Labrys I know how exciting this is!!! But he became a Democrat. My excitement matches yours!

posted by Duchess358 11 days ago As long as all the Democrats agree, which isn't necessarily a given.

posted by MarketMama 11 days ago Exciting news. Kinda wish he'd waited until AFTER Franken is seated though...now that issue is going to get even uglier and more drawn-out.

posted by midwife228 11 days ago I'm predicting Franken will be seated by the end of June. Too many political factors locally are going to force that. 78% of Minnesotans want Coleman to withdraw now, and after the Minnesota Supreme Court rules assuming they don't send it back to a lower court, the future political hopes of both Governor Pawlenty and Norm Coleman will be in jeopardy.

And no, he won't vote with the Democrats all the time. Neither will some of our other blue dogs. But I have noted he has been very unhappy for several years with the box the Repubs have put him in. He also will be beholding to his Dem benefactors when campaign time rolls around. I think he will be akin to a Lieberman Democrat and I can live with that. Obama himself is very moderate and that makes it easier to support the Dem agenda. Okay, not the employee fairness act, but most everything else.

Frankly I have some issues with Specter that go all the way back to the seventies when he intervened on behalf of Ira Einhorn, the guy who killed a friend of mine and stuffed her body in a trunk where they found her mummified. As a result of that intervention Einhorn skipped the country and was only brought back to serve his time a few years ago. That and his role in the Clarence

Thomas hearings. But that is personal. Politically he will be a welcome addition to our Democratic majority.

posted by Labrys3 10 days ago Labrys3...A 60 seat majority sounds real good to my ears....

posted by ageingbeautifull 10 days ago Love it! Proud of my former Senator. Also loving the repubs reaction. Hannity is having a hissyfit as I type. LOL!!!

posted by obamamama 10 days ago Oh yes we can!

posted by richkats 10 days ago Well here's hoping Hannity's head explodes on national TV! I hope that Norm Coleman will take this as a sign to just let it go, and concede already, if Spector can turn there could be others just as fed up with the party.

posted by caroliam1 10 days ago Spector is an Independent man he will vote his conscience.

In the Democratic party you are allowed to have a dissenting voice.

He won't always be on our side but it's better he is here than with the ReBOOBlicans

posted by Media52 10 days ago I am not overly fond of this man, but would rather have him on our side than against. We need every person that thinks with any sense of reason, it sounds like thats why he left the republicans, because they have NO sense at all. They are even alienating their own people. I will be happy if I live to see the day there is no more Republican party at all.Now PLEASE can Al Franken be seated? I am so tired of waiting.

posted by catalinamoon 9 days ago We are doing our best catalinamoon:-)

posted by Labrys3 9 days ago I'm thrilled!!Now I'm rooting for, praying for, anxiously waiting for Al Franken.

Lynne

posted by Dinahlynne1 9 days ago I get daily updates on the Franken-Coleman contest and my prediction remains. I think he will be seated in mid or late June depending on the speed of the Minnesota Supreme Court. Coleman is going to do an end around with the Federal Courts but I don't think they will be interested. I also believe the Mn Supreme Court will order the governor to issue the certificate. Gov. Pawlenty has already said if the court orders him to sign it he will do so. The special tribunal who's ruling Coleman is appealing inserted such a stipulation and I think the Supremes will include it also.

You know, it has taken a long time, but the methodology and transparency makes it very difficult for Coleman to win any appeal. The recount was managed initially our DFL Secretary of State and two members of the Minnesota Supreme Court, both Republicans. The tribunal which upheld their findings and even added to Franken's lead had one DFL, one Independence, and one Republican judge hearing arguments. There was also a Minnesota Supreme Court ruling earlier that affirmed the procedures of the first two courts. Furthermore the entire process was televised locally on Uptake and you can't be more transparent than that. In both of the lower court decisions, the judges voted unanimously for Franken. The two Republican judges involved in the initial recount have recused themselves for this hearing.

All of that means a really huge likelihood of Franken being upheld. Stay tuned.

posted by Labrys3 9 days ago

Network says NO to Obama Request

BOOM itWhat do you think about this?

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posted by Dinahlynne1 11 days ago Reply Replies 1 - 10 of 18 1 2 Next » A__ Holes.

posted by obamamama 11 days ago "Fair and balanced" -- my big toe.

posted by obamamama 11 days ago What would one expect from Fox? My money says they will have plenty to say about it once it's over.

posted by cls6926 11 days ago Hmm. Business as usual I see. While at the same time covering their arses.

posted by KitsuneRed51 11 days ago It's the Network NOT the News show. The Network has decided to show Lie To Me and American Idol instead of Obama.

It's a real shame ,too. I really liked the Lie To Me show and now I'll have to boycott it.

Lynne

posted by Dinahlynne1 11 days ago I put parental block on Fox nobody in my house watches it.

I turn on Hannity once in awhile just to see what an idiot he is

posted by Media52 11 days ago LOL!!! I love it!Lynne

posted by Dinahlynne1 11 days ago they r BUTTHEADS !! plain an simple... i don't look at fox news either

posted by pocohantas 11 days ago But this is not about FOX NEWS, they ARE carrying the press conference. I think from a business standpoint the NETWORK had a very tough call to make, especially in light of the fact that they carry some of the top rated shows (like American Idol to name one)on TV. Their advertisers pay a hefty sum to get their ads on Fox shows, and I can imagine losing that revenue, even for one night, is a huge financial blow to their bottom line. The big three (CBS,ABC,and NBC)plus local PBS and other stations are carrying the news conference so there is ample opportunity to see it on another channel. I think we need to not read so much into this decision, lest we sound like those that do watch FOX NEWS? In my opinion it was a business decision by the network, pure and simple, not a direct attack on the President or anyone else. My humble opinion.

posted by caroliam1 11 days ago I'm still boycotting Lie To Me. I'm already not watching Idol this season.

Lynne

posted by Dinahlynne1 11 days ago

I believe it only further demonstrates Pres. Obama does not have the support of a significant number of Americans...I agree it may be a business decision, it always is though..... The bottom line has (at this time) outweighed a civic responsibility previously honored....

posted by ageingbeautifull 11 days ago On Fox News, you never can understand what anyone is saying anyway. They all talk at the same time and try to out shout each other. I got tired of the arguing. I'll stick with CNN.

posted by chatcat 11 days ago maybe I had better start buying season's of '24'

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posted by KitsuneRed51 11 days ago Not surprised because we are talking about FOX afterall

posted by aussielvncat 11 days ago It torques my jaws! But they will be the first with soundbites getting people all shook up with lies!

posted by Yesac1952 9 days ago I was surprised last night to find that our Fox Station carried the President's speech!! I guess they had to succumb to the will of the people.

posted by Duchess358 9 days ago I put parental Controls on Fox--I won't even watch Baseball on Fox.

I do flip on beck and hannity sometimes just to hear how stupid they are

posted by Media52 9 days ago It might be interesting to note that the Fox Network affiliate in my neck of the woods has the most politically liberal/moderate news team of any of the major networks local affiliates. The most conservative is the ABC affiliate, followed by NBC, then CBS. Our Fox station is the one I usually watch for local news because they really ARE "fair and balanced," even leaning ever-so-slightly toward the left side.

Remember, Fox NEWS (the cable group that includes the village idiots we all love to hate) is a different "company" than the Fox network. Yeah, I know, they're all Fox, all owned by Rupert Murdoch -- but then so is Twentieth Century Fox (the movie company -- Star Wars, Titanic, Ice Age, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Mrs. Doubtfire, Tom Hanks movies, etc.). Each company has its own president and they're all quite different in focus/etc.

I don't have a problem watching Fox Network shows and local news (Q13 Fox up here); I refuse to go anywhere NEAR Fox News (yeccch! I always feel like I need to hold my nose when I channel surf by it, and need de-lousing if I inadvertantly land on it longer than a second or so ... )

posted by LanaM 8 days ago

the whole torture issue

BOOM iti don't recall where i heard this, but its brilliant. Cheney saying torture works and the US will be in bigtrouble now that the Obama Administration has declinedto use it is like a shoplifter telling the cop who catches him wit the goods, yeah i know i shouldn't have done that but look at all of the good things i got.be well Ross

'Still, you might argue - and many do - that revisitingthe abuses of the Bush years would undermine thepolitical consensus the president needs to pursue hisagenda.

'But the answer to that is, what political consensus?There are still, alas, a significant number of peoplein our political life who stand on the side of thetorturers. But these are the same people who have beenrelentless in their efforts to block President Obama'sattempt to deal with our economic crisis and will beequally relentless in their opposition when heendeavors to deal with health care and climate change.The president cannot lose their good will, because theynever offered any.'

Columnist Paul KrugmanNew York TimesApril 24, 20009view link

posted by RossCannon 12 days ago Reply Two of my favorite arguments:

It's not torture because it's what we did to our own troops to train them to withstand . . . torture.

The Geneva convention doesn't apply because it pertains only to POWs. These were not POWs but terrorists. So, we should forget Bush's declaration of War on Terror.

I don't know which is worse: that they are that stupid or they think we are that stupid!

posted by obamamama 11 days ago

WHAT NEXT FOR OBAMA

BOOM itTwo wars, worldwide depression, American's standing in the world at all time low, border drug war, and now a PANDEMIC? Geez. If it were me, I'd take to my bed and stay there.

Good thing he can walk and chew gum at the same time.

posted by obamamama 13 days ago Reply I tried to tell Barack, but he just wouldn't listen. "Barry," I said, "the worst thing about running for president in 2008 is actually getting elected!"

Smile.

God bless him.

posted by roknrolhrt 13 days ago Thank God he did run and get elected! We all knew he would face immense problems right from the first day. But no one would have guessed pirates and pandemics being added to the mix! The way he handles unexpected problems as they arise just proves him even more intelligent and capable. It brings me peace to know he is our president.

posted by richkats 13 days ago Amen to those above. We have a very intelligent and well schooled president.! (Harvard U) And who also has the common touch! I did send to congress "shed light on who approved all that torture but I will not say any more about that-it will take up too much time and energy that we need to fix economy.

posted by xbor8 13 days ago he has that rarest of combinations, true intelligence with COMMON SENSE. I am very glad he is my president...I trust him to do the best for this country and the global community at large.

posted by stace50 13 days ago And he has the people behind him that can do the job. After watching 60 minutes piece about Joe Biden last night, I will not doubt that choice again. They are a great team, the Pres and his VP. Thank goodness, and they are both so human!

posted by caroliam1 11 days ago wouldn't want Bush handling a Pandemic...remember Katrina?

posted by LinnieFB 11 days ago I am glad to see caroliam1 give credit to President Obama's cabinet too. He could not handle all of these crises without the right people behind him that also have our country's best interest at heart. I believe that staying on top of a problem is key rather than letting it get out of control, then trying to clean it up. It is good to hear the news all day about the "swine flu". It really keeps us informed on where cases are and what we should be doing to keep ourselves safe. I really feel much safer with Mr. Obama in the White House. I have warmed up to Joe Biden too. For some reason, I did not really like him before, don't know why, just a feeling, but I also saw the piece about him and like what he stands for, plus there is probably nobody that knows Washington better than him.

posted by bigred515 10 days ago Life's all about making choices. All choices have consequences, some positive, some negative. I too did not trust Biden from his past experiences in the public eye and was initially disappointed when he was chosen as a running mate. However, I do trust Obama's decisions. He is privy to information we are not and he completely understands the consequences of making decisions, weighs them carefully, and then does what is in the best interest for the common good. How novel! A president with intelligence and morals. That hasn't happened in a very long time.

posted by richkats 9 days ago