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Search All NYTimes.com Enlarge This Image Stephen Crowley/The New York Times President Obama said that Republicans' "vision is less about reducing the deficit than it is about changing the basic social compact in America.” Multimedia House Vote: Ryan Budget Proposal Related House Approves Republican Budget Plan to Cut Trillions (April 16, 2011) The Budget Debate, Revealed By RICHARD W. STEVENSON Published: April 16, 2011 WASHINGTON — The air in the capital these days is thick with references to trillion-dollar deficits, debt-to-G.D.P. ratios and mandatory spending. But the budget debate that became fully engaged last week is about far more than accounting and arcane policy disputes. What is under way now is the most fundamental reassessment of the size and role of government — of the balance between personal responsibility and private markets on the one hand and public responsibility and social welfare on the other — at least since Ronald Reagan and perhaps since F.D.R. The battle ahead “is the big one, and goes to the very major questions about the role of government,” said G. William Hoagland, a former Republican staff director of the Senate Budget Committee. “This is going to be a very fundamental clash of ideologies.” The Democratic and Republican Parties have their own internal tensions to address as the debate goes forward in Congress and on the presidential campaign trail. But in its early stages at least, it is liberals who are on the defensive. The aging of the baby boom generation and the costs of maintaining Medicare and Social Security have put the two pillars of the social welfare system on the table for re-examination. The growing weight of the national debt has given urgency to the question of whether the government has become too big and expensive. The tepid nature of the current economic recovery, following big stimulus packages, has provided an opening to challenge the effectiveness of Keynesianism as the default policy option for government. And the revived energy of grass-roots conservatives has given electoral clout to the movement’s intellectual and constitutional arguments. Arthur Brooks, president of the American Enterprise Institute, the conservative research organization, said, “The optimistic view is that we have a confluence of the business cycle, of the demography and of the politics that makes it not just possible to achieve real change, but impossible that we not deal with these things if we want this country to continue on the path envisioned by the founders.” So just Log In With Facebook Grete Waitz, Norwegian Marathon Champion, Is Dead at 57 The Issue of Abortion Returns to Center Stage in U.S. Politics Log in to discover more articles based on what you‘ve read. PRESENTED BY What’s This? | Don’t Show Log in to see what your friends are sharing on nytimes.com. Privacy Policy | What’s This? What’s Popular Now Sign up to receive exclusive products and experiences featuring NYTimes.com's premier advertisers. Privacy Policy TimesLimited E-Mail We don’t have any personalized recommendations for you at this time. Please try again later. Log In Register Now Help HOME PAGE TODAY'S PAPER VIDEO MOST POPULAR TIMES TOPICS Week in Review WORLD U.S. N.Y. / REGION BUSINESS TECHNOLOGY SCIENCE HEALTH SPORTS OPINION ARTS STYLE TRAVEL JOBS REAL ESTATE AUTOS SIGN IN TO E-MAIL PRINT REPRINTS SHARE RECOMMEND TWITTER MOST E-MAILED RECOMMENDED FOR YOU Subscribe to The Times In Budget Debate, Democrats and Republicans Reassess Gove... http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/weekinreview/17deficit.ht... 1 of 4 4/20/11 9:05 AM

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    President Obama said thatRepublicans' "vision is less aboutreducing the deficit than it is aboutchanging the basic social compact inAmerica.”

    Multimedia

    House Vote: Ryan Budget Proposal

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    House Approves RepublicanBudget Plan to Cut Trillions (April16, 2011)

    The Budget Debate, RevealedBy RICHARD W. STEVENSONPublished: April 16, 2011

    WASHINGTON — The air in the capital these days is thick with

    references to trillion-dollar deficits, debt-to-G.D.P. ratios and

    mandatory spending. But the budget debate that became fully

    engaged last week is about far more than accounting and arcane

    policy disputes. What is under way now is the most fundamental

    reassessment of the size and role of government — of the balance

    between personal responsibility and private markets on the one hand

    and public responsibility and social welfare on the other — at least

    since Ronald Reagan and perhaps since F.D.R.

    The battle ahead “is the big one, and

    goes to the very major questions about

    the role of government,” said G. William Hoagland, a

    former Republican staff director of the Senate Budget

    Committee. “This is going to be a very fundamental clash of

    ideologies.”

    The Democratic and Republican Parties have their own

    internal tensions to address as the debate goes forward in

    Congress and on the presidential campaign trail. But in its

    early stages at least, it is liberals who are on the defensive.

    The aging of the baby boom generation and the costs of

    maintaining Medicare and Social Security have put the two

    pillars of the social welfare system on the table for

    re-examination. The growing weight of the national debt

    has given urgency to the question of whether the

    government has become too big and expensive.

    The tepid nature of the current economic recovery,

    following big stimulus packages, has provided an opening

    to challenge the effectiveness of Keynesianism as the

    default policy option for government. And the revived

    energy of grass-roots conservatives has given electoral clout

    to the movement’s intellectual and constitutional

    arguments.

    Arthur Brooks, president of the American Enterprise

    Institute, the conservative research organization, said, “The

    optimistic view is that we have a confluence of the business

    cycle, of the demography and of the politics that makes it

    not just possible to achieve real change, but impossible that

    we not deal with these things if we want this country to

    continue on the path envisioned by the founders.” So just

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    two and a half years after a presidential election that was in

    part a repudiation of conservative governance, and with the

    nation still smarting from the aftereffects of a financial

    crisis that grew out of failures of markets and regulation,

    President Obama finds himself in a somewhat surprising

    position: forced to articulate and sell a vision of how

    liberalism and the institutions it built in the 20th century can be updated for the

    constraints of the 21st.

    The speech he delivered Wednesday at George Washington University in Washington was

    his most ambitious effort so far to do so. In it, he harnessed the language of both left and

    right to argue against the extremes on both sides while suggesting that many of their core

    principles were not mutually exclusive — in other words, that Great Society values can

    endure in a Tea Party moment.

    He defined “patriotism” as a shared sense of responsibility for the vulnerable and less

    fortunate. Basic standards of security for the elderly and poor and government investment

    in a more prosperous future, he said, can not only coexist with a tradition of “rugged

    individualists with a healthy skepticism of too much government,” but are also a vital part

    of what makes America exceptional.

    “We are a better country because of these commitments,” he said. “I’ll go further — we

    would not be a great country without those commitments.”

    Republicans in Congress, he suggested, would shred that tradition under cover of a debate

    that is only nominally about the budget. “The fact is,” he said, “their vision is less about

    reducing the deficit than it is about changing the basic social compact in America.”

    Conservatives would and did object to his implication of heartlessness, but not necessarily

    to his assessment of their ambition.

    The Republican plan put forward by Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the chairman

    of the Budget Committee, and adopted by the House on Friday as its policy blueprint for

    the next decade contains a substantial dose of deficit reduction but is really a manifesto for

    limited government.

    It would take big steps toward privatizing Medicare, slash upper-income tax rates, repeal

    last year’s health care law, bite deeply into nearly all federal programs and try to cap the

    size of government relative to the economy. But it also imposes a self-consciously moral

    judgment on the government’s role, suggesting that the same kind of demand for added

    personal responsibility that was embedded in the 1996 overhaul of welfare should now be

    applied more broadly, to food stamps, housing aid and health care for the elderly and the

    poor.

    “The safety net should never become a hammock, lulling able-bodied citizens into lives of

    complacency and dependency,” Mr. Ryan’s budget proposal says.

    William A. Galston, who was a domestic policy aide to President Bill Clinton and is now a

    scholar at the Brookings Institution, said Mr. Ryan deserved credit of a sort for addressing

    head-on the implications of the Republican Party’s increasingly rigid antitax posture,

    which since it took root in the late 1970s has put greater and greater pressure on budgets

    and the social programs they support.

    “It represents the first serious effort to begin to bring Republican social policy

    commitments in line with their fiscal and tax commitments,” Mr. Galston said.

    But he said Democrats, too, faced a credibility test. “They have held fast to the security

    programs in place since the 1930s, but without being able to successfully challenge the

    antitax orthodoxy,” he said. “The problem the Democrats have is that they can no longer

    say with a straight face that raising taxes on the wealthy is going to enable them to pay

    over the next generation for the programs they cherish. So what do you do?”

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  • A version of this article appeared in print on April 17, 2011, on pageWK1 of the New York edition.

    That question is being asked quietly within both parties, each of which faces its own

    internal tensions about how to proceed.

    There are Republicans who fear that voting for the Ryan plan will put them out of step

    with their constituents. There are Democrats who think the tax-and-spend label is all too

    accurate. There are Republicans who might countenance voting for tax increases, and

    there are Democrats who are willing to meaningfully scale back the benefits promised by

    Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

    In the Senate, a group of Democrats and Republicans operating independently of party

    leaders is trying to come up with a plan that neither party would like but both would

    accept as necessary. But they are debating basic values; it would no doubt be much easier

    if the argument was just about numbers.

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