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Who was the real “Ashoka the Great”? 23 July 2008 349 views 3 Comments To those of us whose image of “Samraat” Ashoka (Ashoka the Great) has been shaped by Amar Chitra Kathaor the eponymous movie, it will come as a suprise that there may actually have been three different Kings by the name of Ashok and the real history of the “Ashok the Great” may be more complex than hitherto imagined. I am reproducing below some excerpts from some early but ground-breaking research by Kishore Patnaik which he shared on a Yahoo! group recently…It makes for fascinatingreading (emphasis mine). *** Excerpts BEGIN Long Post *** …it may be too premature for me to say…(but it appears that) there are three Asokas in the history whose identity has to be established: 1. The Mauryan king Asoka vardhana, as described in Puranas. I am not sure if anything was told about Asoka vardhana by puranas, even though he has ruled the longest in his dynasty 2. The Bauddhist king Asoka(Tissa?) as described in the various Buddhist and Jain works. Clearly, they try to mostly identify Asoka with with Asoka Vardhana but it is possible that the writers are confused since these works were composed centuries after Asoka 3. Priyadarsi, the king of edicts who was supposed to be dear to the gods and of course, just once he calls himself Asoka (in the edict of Maski) …In any case, we see that all the three kings differ in their nature and dating. The full name of Asoka Vardhana (the Ashoka of Puranas), a princely name is not mentioned anywhere else either in non-puranic sources or the edicts. While some buddhist literature does identify the lineage of asoka as mauryan and name his father as bindusara (as did the puranas), largely the name of the father of asoka keeps changing in this literature. The king of edicts is a totally different person from the Asoka of buddhist literature. That both are buddhists is the only common point. There is no Kalinga war mentioned in the buddhist literature. The Asoka of Buddhists was a cruel sadist who was brought to the path of Buddhism by various monks as soon as he has taken over or at best, four years after his coronation. After his conversion, Asoka was intolerant of other religions and killed even his own brother, whom he has spared earlier, suspecting that he is following a heretic Buddha school.

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Who was the real “Ashoka the Great”?

23 July 2008 349 views 3 Comments

To those of us whose image of “Samraat” Ashoka (Ashoka the Great) has been shaped by Amar

Chitra Katha�or the eponymous movie, it will come as a suprise that there may actually

have been three different Kings by the name of Ashok and the real history of the “Ashok

the Great” may be more complex than hitherto imagined.

I am reproducing below some excerpts from some early but ground-breaking research by

Kishore Patnaik which he shared on a Yahoo! group recently…It makes for

fascinating�reading (emphasis mine).

*** Excerpts BEGIN – Long Post ***

…it may be too premature for me to say…(but it appears that) there are three Asokas in the

history whose identity has to be established:

1. The Mauryan king Asoka vardhana, as described in Puranas. I am not sure if anything was told

about Asoka vardhana by puranas, even though he has ruled the longest in his dynasty

2. The Bauddhist king Asoka(Tissa?) as described in the various Buddhist and Jain works.

Clearly, they try to mostly identify Asoka with with Asoka Vardhana but it is possible that the

writers are confused since these works were composed centuries after Asoka

3. Priyadarsi, the king of edicts who was supposed to be dear to the gods and of course, just once

he calls himself Asoka (in the edict of Maski)

…In any case, we see that all the three kings differ in their nature and dating.

The full name of Asoka Vardhana (the Ashoka of Puranas), a princely name is not

mentioned anywhere else – either in non-puranic sources or the edicts. While some buddhist

literature does identify the lineage of asoka as mauryan and name his father as bindusara

(as did the puranas), largely the name of the father of asoka keeps changing in this

literature.

The king of edicts is a totally different person from the Asoka of buddhist literature. That

both are buddhists is the only common point.

There is no Kalinga war mentioned in the buddhist literature. The Asoka of Buddhists was a

cruel sadist who was brought to the path of Buddhism by various monks as soon as he has taken

over or at best, four years after his coronation. After his conversion, Asoka was intolerant of

other religions and killed even his own brother, whom he has spared

earlier, suspecting that he is following a heretic Buddha school.

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On the other hand, the edicts clearly mention that the king has taken to Buddhism in the 8th year

of his coronation, following the war of Kalinga. He was highly tolerant of other religions,

advising his people to respect brahmins and he has made donations to ajivakas in the 12th/13th

year and perhaps, in 19th year of his coronation, which is much later to his conversion.

The king of edicts is clearly highly tactful and diplomatic, never a sadist. He was a shrewd and

ambitious ruler- he annexed Kalinga only to have control of sea faring business routes. He has

used religion as a matter of tool to discipline people, most of the important edicts being in the

gold bearing areas of India. His repentance may be more

of a farce since the famous edict announcing his remorse was never found in Kalinga or the area

around it. Not just this, his hypocracy is clearly mentioned in the likes of edicts where he

confesses that he continued to eat meat, even as he entreated others, including the staff and other

residents of the Royal palace to convert to vegetarianism.

That most of his tactics are to get the maximum out of trade routes is very obvious. That kings

concentrated highly on trade routes is a trade mark of around Guptan kings.

…If you follow the traditionalists‟ chronology, we can say that Asoka vardhana was existing

much earlier to Greek invasion. Also, the traditionalists identify Sandrocottus with Chandra

gupta I. This will make the Asoka of Edicts a king around the times of Guptans, as pointed

by his way of dealing.

Thus, clearly Devanam piya/piyadarsi who have inscribed all the famous edicts is not a Mauryan

king. There are many other arguments in favor of this statement. which I will keep it for future.

Priyadarsi could not be a Mauryan king for many reasons – one new reason being the Mauryan

kings were not in habit of bearing titles…Priyadarsi has never sent missionaries. It is king Ayu

(also named Asoka but he is not Mauryan again) who has sent these missionaries in order to

spread the relics of Buddha all over the country. That his daughter Bhadrana (the liturgical „

Sanghamitra”)also was amongst the missionaries is proved by inscriptions (not those of

priyadarsi).

Priyadarsi is from South India, in all possibility from Kolar fields of karnataka. His all important

edict recognizing the various provinces of his empire is issued from Suvarna giri, Kolar fieds,

Karnanataka.�

Kalinga or Orissa was a thriving kingdom of ancient trade. They have adopted Buddhism

perhaps from the times of Buddha. For eg.,� Vinaya pitttaka, composed before the times of

Mauryans, represents Tapussa (or Tapassu) and Bhallika (or Bhalluka or Bhalliya), the two

merchant brothers of Utkala as offering the Buddha rice cakes� and lump of honey in the eighth

week of his enlightenment. The Ariguttara Nikaya commentary adds that the Buddha

reciprocated by giving them eight handfuls of his hair which they subsequently enshrined in a

magnificent caitya at Asitanjana.�

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Now, the latest excavations (November 2007) recognize that this is not a mere folktale but true.

The scientists recognize that Asitnjana could be either Radhanagar (the ancient capital of

Kalinga) or Tarapore, another site of excavations which revealed the names of Tapussu and

Bhalliya. Several stupas of ancient origin are found in this region.

According to the commentary of the Theragatha, these two merchants also subsequently visited

the Buddha at Rajagriha and by that time Tapassu was renamed as Sotapanna and

Devachikaupasaka, and his name has been incorporated in the list of eminent upasakas of Lord

Buddha. Bhallika, on the other hand, joined the Sangha and became an arhat. The Pujavaliya text

of Ceylon delineates that Tapassu and Bhallika after their conversion visited the east coast of Sri

Lanka, where they erected a Chaitya to commemorate their visit.

The ancient text of Buddhists, The Mahcattarisaka Sutta of the Majjahimanikaya speaks of two

tribes of Utkala (Orissa) named Vassa and Bhanna as renouncing their earlier faith in Ahetu

vada, Akritya vada and Nastika vada in favor of Buddhism.

As per Chinese sources, Buddha had lauded Orissa as one of the twelve suitable places for the

attainment of perfection. That Buddhism has received the royal patronage is given in

Kalingabodhi Jataka referring to Kalinga II, who has paid reverential honor to the Bodhi tree at

Uruvela near Gaya for seven days.

The above liturgical and archaeological evidence amply proves that the Orissa was not only

flourishing commercially, especially in maritime trade, but also was traditionally Buddhist

in religion.

It is also evident that Kalinga was forming the connection between south and north. All the

important trade routes between south India and north India have been developed through

Kalinga. An ambitous king like Priyadarsi naturally would want to control this trade route.

Hence, the conquest of Kalinga.

It is here that Priyadarsi came into contact with Buddhism. In all probability, he must have

seen how obedient and controlled the Kalingan army was, even in the face of a fatal defeat. In

other words, he has seen how religion can be used to� control masses, to command their total

surrender and loyalty. Thus he has cooked up the story of his remorse and presented it all over

his empire, which in fact, according to Taranatha, was acquired only after the conquest of

Kalinga (Obviously, he grew quite powerful with the commercial support offered by Kalinga)

While he has not converted to Buddhism at the time of Kalinga war , though he was genuinely

respecting it, was clear from his edicts, there is an aspect to be considered here.

How true was his remorse? We can say his remorse was entirely false�and was a tool invented

by him to control the masses using religion is amply evident in two ways:

1. That he has carried further conquests as evidenced by Taranatha

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2. That he has erected his story of remorse all over India but not in Kalinga, which clearly

shows that he has not converted his so called remorse into action, atleast in Kalinga In

fact, he must have seen Kalinga as a milch cow for his further conquests

In fact, he did not free Kalinga from his sovereignty and it was continued to be under his regent

Tussa, as the excavations reveal.

*** END of Excerpts ***

Sh Patnaik is in the process of compiling this research in the form of a book…I, for one, am

eagerly looking forward to it…If anyone of you wishes to get in touch with him, please email

him at kishorepatnaik09ATgmail.com

P.S. To get a sense of current “wisdom” on Samraat Ashoka, try this Wikipedia link.� Finally,

below is some more information from Shri Patnaik on the confusion created (inadvertently?) by

scholars researching this bit of history:

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One of the greatest mistakes of Indian Historiography scholars is identifying Sandrocottus with

Chandragupta Mourya.�

The predecessor of Sandrocottus was Xandremes (who can be easily identified Chandramasi, the

unpopular Satavahana ruler).� Sandrocottus himself was Chandragupta, who has murdered

Chandramasi and usurped the kingdom.� His forefather was named Gupta, meaning the

protected alluding to his low caste. Probably an artisan. The Greek records identify the father of

Sandrocottus as a barber , towards whom the Queen was amorous.� This need not be in doubt

since the name� Ghatotkacha, father of CG I not only indicates a name of lower birth but also a

person with great capabilities, especially physical strength. If the Queen of an unpopular and

perhaps, old king has loved him, it may be no wonder.

The son of Sandrocottus was Sandrocyptus.

Max Mueller could not synchronize the names� ” Xandremes, Sandrocottus and Sandrocryptus”

with “Nanda, Chandra gupta Maurya and Bindu sara”. Hence, he denied the existence of�

Xandremes and postulated without evidence that both Sandrocottus and Sandrocryptus are one

and the same.

The name Sandro cryptus not only synchronizes with the name of Samudra gupta , the valiant

son of CG I but also, the title of allitrochades� or Amitrochates (meaning slayer of enemies)

perfectly suits his image as a valiant and ruthless warrior, as described in the Prasasthi

epigraphy.

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However, it is clear that the kingdom of Guptas did not sustain for long. It is not correct to say

that CG II is the son of Samudra gupta and he has taken over the reins of Gupta Kingdom after

SG. There are many kings between Samudra gupta and CG II.� Samudra gupta‟s father CG I

has taken over the kingdom around 321 bce whereas it is clearly chronicled that CG II has driven

away the Sakas in 58/57 bce. To support this, there are many names of kings mentioned in the

liturgical history as well as in numismatics. All these names were tried to be shown as other

names of already known kings, which has taken place due� to the shrinkage of Indian

chronology. For eg., we do not know who is Kacha, who came after Samudra Gupta , nor

Chandra prakasa as mentioned by Vamana nor Chandra who claimed on the Allahabad Pillar�

that he expanded his kingdom to Bengal. There are many more such names about whom we

know nothing nor we are in a position to fix their chronology.

After Samudra Gupta, his son Rama (Chandra)Gupta or Sarma (Chandra)Gupta, who has

married Dhruva Swamin could not continue on the seat of pataliputra. He was driven away to the

west� by one Kalyana varma whose victory was chronicled in a drama called Kaumudi

mahotsavam. Ramachandra gupta has taken over at Ujjain but he had to surrender his wife to the

foreign rulers in order to keep his seat, as described in Kavya mimamsa by Raja sekhara� In

shame, Sarma gupta or Ramachandra gupta has retired to Himalayas and hence, Dhruvaswamini

has continued the rule. Her son was Govinda gupta also seemed to have ruled for sometime.

During this time that Priyadarsi has come into forefront.(Priyadarsi could not be a Mauryan king

for many reasons – one new reason being the Mauryan kings were not in habit of bearing titles,

whereas all the kings CGM, Bindusara and Asoka were shown as bearing titles)� He has

corrected two mistakes that have been committed by Samudra gupta : one,� in spite of his

various Jaitra Yatras, SG did not bother about them strategically. He did not have a particular

control over the trade routes. Priyadarsi has seen to it that he had a great control over trade

routes. In fact, the Kalinga conquest was primarily for this purpose, to have a control over road

and sea routes.� Second mistake of SG was to lose contact with people in general. In spite of

his great ness, SG has inscribed his eulogies in Sanskrit, which were not understood by common

man. Priyadarsi has seen to it that not only his inscriptions were in prakrit, a language known to

the common man but also he has ensured that all these inscriptions are read aloud to the

gatherings at frequent intervals. He has also cleverly used the tool of religion in order to control

the general masses