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1 William and Janet Thomson Ramsay Descendants Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM 1 RAMSAY was born Abt. 1760 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland 1 , and died Aft. 1807 in Scotland. He married JANET THOMSON Oct 15, 1785 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland 2 . She was born Abt. 1764 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland 3 , and died Aft. 1807 in Scotland. Notes for WILLIAM RAMSAY: (Care has been taken to substantiate the information provided here with birth, marriage, death, census and family records. If the reader finds any errors or has additional details, please contact: [email protected].) The marriage record of William and Janet shows that both were living in Dunfermline in 1785. William was employed as a coal miner at the Berrylaw Colliery which, according to an 1856 map, was located about two miles west of Dunfermline. The birth records of their children show that the family lived variously in Dunfermline, Torryburn and Dalgety. They may have eventually settled in Dalgety parish since their last three children were born there. The parish consisted of six villages, including Fordell which had a large colliery where William may have worked. Adelaide Frick Ramsay Clarke recalled in a letter that she had been taken to Scotland on a visit when she was only six months old in 1892. She was later told by her mother that William and Janet had lived in Fordell Colliery. More About WILLIAM RAMSAY: Misc: alternate birth place Torryburn, Fife Occupation: coal miner Notes for JANET THOMSON: William and Janet had at least 37 grandchildren. Research is ongoing as to their other children's possible

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William and Janet Thomson Ramsay Descendants

Generation No. 1

1. WILLIAM1 RAMSAY was born Abt. 1760 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland1, and died Aft. 1807 in Scotland. Hemarried JANET THOMSON Oct 15, 1785 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland2. She was born Abt. 1764 inDunfermline, Fife, Scotland3, and died Aft. 1807 in Scotland.

Notes for WILLIAM RAMSAY:(Care has been taken to substantiate the information provided here with birth, marriage, death, census and familyrecords. If the reader finds any errors or has additional details, please contact: [email protected].)

The marriage record of William and Janet shows that both were living in Dunfermline in 1785. William wasemployed as a coal miner at the Berrylaw Colliery which, according to an 1856 map, was located about twomiles west of Dunfermline. The birth records of their children show that the family lived variously inDunfermline, Torryburn and Dalgety. They may have eventually settled in Dalgety parish since their last threechildren were born there. The parish consisted of six villages, including Fordell which had a large colliery whereWilliam may have worked.

Adelaide Frick Ramsay Clarke recalled in a letter that she had been taken to Scotland on a visit when she wasonly six months old in 1892. She was later told by her mother that William and Janet had lived in FordellColliery.

More About WILLIAM RAMSAY:Misc: alternate birth place Torryburn, FifeOccupation: coal miner

Notes for JANET THOMSON:William and Janet had at least 37 grandchildren. Research is ongoing as to their other children's possible

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marriages and grandchildren.

More About JANET THOMSON:Alternate spelling: JannetMisc: alternate birth place Torryburn, Fife

More About WILLIAM RAMSAY and JANET THOMSON:Alternate location: Dalgety, Fife, ScotlandMarriage: Oct 15, 1785, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland4

Children of WILLIAM RAMSAY and JANET THOMSON are:2. i. JAMES2 RAMSAY, b. Oct 18, 1786, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown, Scotland.3. ii. JOHN RAMSAY, b. Apr 27, 1788, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown, Scotland.4. iii. WILLIAM RAMSAY, b. 1790, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown, Scotland.5. iv. ROBERT RAMSAY, b. Apr 4, 1792, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; d. Feb 8, 1832, Scotland.

v. MARGARET RAMSAY, b. 1794, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.

More About MARGARET RAMSAY:Christened: Nov 2, 1794, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland5

Misc: may have married a Penman

6. vi. JEAN RAMSAY, b. Jun 18, 1797, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown, Scotland.vii. JANET RAMSAY, b. Mar 17, 1800, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland6; d. Unknown, Scotland.

More About JANET RAMSAY:Alternate spelling: JannetChristened: Mar 23, 1800, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland7

7. viii. ALEXANDER RAMSAY, b. Jan 1, 1803, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown, Scotland.8. ix. HELEN RAMSAY, b. 1804, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.9. x. THOMAS RAMSAY, b. Mar 19, 1807, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown, Scotland.

Generation No. 2

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2. JAMES2 RAMSAY (WILLIAM1) was born Oct 18, 1786 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland8, and died Unknown inScotland. He married HELEN PENMAN May 19, 1806 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland9. She was born Jul 18, 1785 inDunfermline, Fife, Scotland10, and died Unknown in Scotland.

More About JAMES RAMSAY:Christened: Oct 29, 1786, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland11

More About HELEN PENMAN:Misc: daughter of George Penman, Helen Thomson

More About JAMES RAMSAY and HELEN PENMAN:Marriage: May 19, 1806, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland12

Children of JAMES RAMSAY and HELEN PENMAN are:i. WILLIAM3 RAMSAY, b. May 4, 1807, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland13; d. Unknown.

ii. JAMES RAMSAY, b. Aug 12, 1820, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland13; d. Unknown.iii. JOHN (TWIN) RAMSAY, b. 1826, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.

More About JOHN (TWIN) RAMSAY:Christened: Mar 20, 1826, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland14

iv. ROBERT (TWIN) RAMSAY, b. 1826, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.

More About ROBERT (TWIN) RAMSAY:Christened: Mar 20, 1826, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland14

3. JOHN2 RAMSAY (WILLIAM1) was born Apr 27, 1788 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland15, and died Unknown inScotland. He married JANET PENMAN Jan 15, 1810 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland16. She was born Feb 23, 1789 inDunfermline, Fife, Scotland17, and died Unknown in Scotland.

More About JOHN RAMSAY:

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Christened: May 4, 1788, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland18

More About JANET PENMAN:Alternate spelling: JannetMisc: daughter of Thomas Penman, Margaret Duncan

More About JOHN RAMSAY and JANET PENMAN:Marriage: Jan 15, 1810, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland19

Children of JOHN RAMSAY and JANET PENMAN are:i. WILLIAM3 RAMSAY, b. Dec 10, 1810, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland20; d. Unknown.

ii. THOMAS RAMSAY, b. Aug 21, 1812, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland20; d. Unknown.iii. EUPHEMIA RAMSAY, b. May 1, 1815, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland20; d. Unknown.iv. JANET RAMSAY, b. Aug 21, 1817, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland20; d. Unknown.v. ARCHIBALD RAMSAY, b. 1822, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.

More About ARCHIBALD RAMSAY:Christened: Dec 14, 1822, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland21

4. WILLIAM2 RAMSAY (WILLIAM1) was born 1790 in Torryburn, Fife, Scotland, and died Unknown in Scotland.He married CHRISTIAN MORRIS May 10, 1816 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland22. She was born May 25, 1797 inCowdenbeath, Fife, Scotland23, and died Unknown in Scotland.

More About WILLIAM RAMSAY:Christened: Mar 7, 1790, Torryburn, Fife, Scotland24

More About CHRISTIAN MORRIS:Christened: May 28, 1797, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland24

Misc: daughter of William Morris, Elspet Spowart

More About WILLIAM RAMSAY and CHRISTIAN MORRIS:Marriage: May 10, 1816, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland25

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Marriage note: double wedding date with brother Robert

Children of WILLIAM RAMSAY and CHRISTIAN MORRIS are:i. ELSPETH3 RAMSAY, b. 1816, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.

More About ELSPETH RAMSAY:Christened: Sep 13, 1816, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland26

ii. JANET RAMSAY, b. Jul 10, 1818, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland27; d. Unknown.

More About JANET RAMSAY:Christened: Jul 19, 1818, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland28

iii. JANE RAMSAY, b. Apr 20, 1820, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland29; d. Unknown.iv. CHRISTIAN RAMSAY, b. 1822, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.

More About CHRISTIAN RAMSAY:Christened: Sep 7, 1822, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland30

5. ROBERT2 RAMSAY (WILLIAM1) was born Apr 4, 1792 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland31, and died Feb 8, 1832in Scotland. He married ELIZABETH MORRIS May 10, 1816 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland32, daughter ofWILLIAM MORRIS and CHRISTIAN SNADAN. She was born Apr 23, 1793 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland33, anddied Mar 1, 1862 in Scotland.

Notes for ROBERT RAMSAY:Marriage: see a photo of Robert's marriage on this site. It reads that on April 22, 1816, "Robert RamsayCoalhewer in the parish of Dalgety and Betty Morris of this parish gave in their names for proclamation in orderto marriage and being three times proclaimed and no objections made they were married on 10 May 1816."Robert's brother William was married the same day.

Occupation: "In 1813 Robert, while mining in the Earl of Elgin's coal pit, was so severely injured that he couldnever thereafter perform hard labor. Fortunately, he had been a regular and a studious fellow and while he wasonly twenty-one at the time of the accident, he was already ranked as a mine boss. Manual labor, therefore, was

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not necessary for him and owing to his good standing in the community, he was able to get sufficient financialbacking to set himself up in the mining business on leased property." (Childers, p. 15)

His descendant Margaret Ramsay Jones, of Mt. Pleasant, PA, wrote that Robert "owned the coal mine called'White Rashes' at Cowdenbeath, Fifeshire, Scotland."

Family: Robert died just two years after the birth of his youngest child. He never lived to see any of hisgrandchildren. Still, "he accumulated sufficient of the world's goods during his brief life that his family neverlacked the necessities and his children received at least a limited education." (Childers, p. 15)

Robert's descendant, Adelaide Frick Ramsay Clarke, maintains that Robert and Elizabeth were buried atDunfermline Abbey, Dunfermline, Scotland, on the left side of the Margate entrance. However, when I husbandand I visited the Abbey in 1997, we could not find the graves even though we walked through the entire cemeteryand bought the book that lists the graves. On the other hand, some of the stones are unreadable and damaged.

More About ROBERT RAMSAY:Christened: Apr 8, 1792, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland34

Christening witness: Apr 8, 1792, James Ramsay & Alexander RobertsonOccupation: 1813, mine boss35

Notes for ELIZABETH MORRIS:Of the eight known children of Robert and Elizabeth, seven survived to adulthood, marriage and parenthood.Although Robert died at an early age, Elizabeth lived long enough to know of the birth of most of hergrandchildren. Of Elizabeth's children, only William left Scotland to emigrate to America. The rest likely neverleft the county of Fife, judging by the places their children were born. All her daughters married miners and theyworked in the collieries in the parishes of Auchterderran and Dalgety, as did her son Morris. William carried themining tradition to the United States. Robert and Elizabeth had at least 46 grandchildren.

Elizabeth's descendant, Adelaide Frick Ramsay Clarke, maintains that Robert and Elizabeth also had a sonThomas, nicknamed Tam "who lived in Tam Hill Scotland. Some of the family are still there," Adelaide wrote ina family record. However, I can find no record of a Thomas Ramsay born to the couple. Thomas Ramsay is alsonot in the notes of Helen Ramsay Walter.

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Margaret Ramsay Jones states that Elizabeth died in 1865. I will have to check this with the Scottish Register,but in general, I have found a number of dates provided by Mrs. Jones to be in error.

More About ELIZABETH MORRIS:Alternate spelling: Morres, MorriceChristened: Apr 28, 1793, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland36

Christening witness: George Burke(?), Alexander Morres

More About ROBERT RAMSAY and ELIZABETH MORRIS:Marriage: May 10, 1816, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland37

Marriage note: double wedding date with brother William

Children of ROBERT RAMSAY and ELIZABETH MORRIS are:10. i. CHRISTIAN3 RAMSAY, b. Mar 21, 1817, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; d. 1910, Scotland.11. ii. WILLIAM RAMSAY, b. Mar 26, 1819, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; d. Apr 16, 1885, Larimer, N. Huntingdon

Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA.12. iii. MARGARET JANET RAMSAY, b. Jun 6, 1821, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland.13. iv. MORRIS RAMSAY, b. Jul 5, 1823, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. 1882, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland.14. v. JEAN RAMSAY, b. Aug 29, 1825, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Aft. 1881, Scotland.

vi. ISABEL RAMSAY, b. Nov 29, 1826, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland38; d. 1826, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland39.

More About ISABEL RAMSAY:Misc: no christening, marriage record

15. vii. ISABELLA LANDER RAMSAY, b. Dec 27, 1827, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; d. Aft. 1881, Scotland.16. viii. AGNES RAMSAY, b. Sep 24, 1830, Cowdenbeath, Fife, Scotland; d. Aft. 1881, Scotland.

6. JEAN2 RAMSAY (WILLIAM1) was born Jun 18, 1797 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland40, and died Unknown inScotland. She married JOHN WILLIAMSON Dec 16, 1821 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland41. He was born Apr 2, 1797in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland42, and died Unknown in Scotland.

More About JOHN WILLIAMSON and JEAN RAMSAY:

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Marriage: Dec 16, 1821, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland43

Children of JEAN RAMSAY and JOHN WILLIAMSON are:i. JANET THOMSON3 WILLIAMSON, b. 1823, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.

More About JANET THOMSON WILLIAMSON:Christened: Mar 6, 1823, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland44

ii. MARY WILLIAMSON, b. Feb 22, 1825, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland45; d. Unknown.iii. JEAN WILLIAMSON, b. Jun 26, 1827, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland45; d. Unknown.iv. HELEN WILLIAMSON, b. Jul 30, 1829, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland45; d. Unknown.v. MENNIE WILLIAMSON, b. Oct 10, 1831, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland45; d. Unknown.

vi. WILLIAM WILLIAMSON, b. Jun 15, 1839, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland45; d. Unknown.

7. ALEXANDER2 RAMSAY (WILLIAM1) was born Jan 1, 1803 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland46, and died Unknown inScotland. He married MARGARET SIMPSON Jul 29, 1826 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland47. She was born May 15,1805 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland48, and died Unknown in Scotland.

More About ALEXANDER RAMSAY:Christened: Jan 9, 1803, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland49

More About MARGARET SIMPSON:Misc: daughter of George Simpson, Agnes Allan

More About ALEXANDER RAMSAY and MARGARET SIMPSON:Marriage: Jul 29, 1826, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland50

Children of ALEXANDER RAMSAY and MARGARET SIMPSON are:i. MARGARET FIFE3 RAMSAY, b. May 16, 1827, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland51; d. Unknown.

ii. JANET THOMSON RAMSAY, b. Aug 24, 1828, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland51; d. Unknown.

8. HELEN2 RAMSAY (WILLIAM1) was born 1804 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland, and died Unknown. She married

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JOHN COUSIN Apr 29, 1826 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland52. He was born Abt. 1801 in Crossgates, Dunfermline,Fife, Scotland53, and died Unknown in Scotland.

More About HELEN RAMSAY:Christened: Dec 31, 1804, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland54

More About JOHN COUSIN:Alternate spelling: Cusin

More About JOHN COUSIN and HELEN RAMSAY:Marriage: Apr 29, 1826, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland55

Children of HELEN RAMSAY and JOHN COUSIN are:i. JAMES3 COUSIN, b. Feb 18, 1827, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland56; d. Unknown.

ii. JANET COUSIN, b. 1829, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland57; d. Unknown.iii. HELEN COUSIN, b. Sep 28, 1830, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland58; d. Unknown.iv. WILLIAM RAMSAY COUSIN, b. Jun 16, 1833, Cowdenbeath, Fife, Scotland58; d. Unknown.v. JOHN COUSIN, b. 1836, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland59; d. Unknown.

9. THOMAS2 RAMSAY (WILLIAM1) was born Mar 19, 1807 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland59, and died Unknown inScotland. He married AGNES HYND Sep 27, 1828 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland60. She was born in Scotland, anddied Unknown in Scotland.

More About THOMAS RAMSAY:Christened: Mar 1807, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland61

More About THOMAS RAMSAY and AGNES HYND:Marriage: Sep 27, 1828, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland62

Children of THOMAS RAMSAY and AGNES HYND are:i. WILLIAM3 RAMSAY, b. Aug 1, 1829, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland63; d. Unknown.

ii. DAVID RAMSAY, b. May 11, 1832, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland63; d. Unknown.

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iii. THOMAS RAMSAY, b. May 8, 1834, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland63; d. Unknown.

Generation No. 3

10. CHRISTIAN3 RAMSAY (ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Mar 21, 1817 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland64, anddied 1910 in Scotland. She married JAMES PENMAN Dec 1, 1838 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland65. He was born inDalgety, Fife, Scotland, and died Unknown in Scotland.

More About CHRISTIAN RAMSAY:Christened: Jun 2, 1816, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland66

More About JAMES PENMAN:Occupation: coal miner

More About JAMES PENMAN and CHRISTIAN RAMSAY:Marriage: Dec 1, 1838, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland67

Children of CHRISTIAN RAMSAY and JAMES PENMAN are:17. i. BETSY4 PENMAN, b. Aug 9, 1840, Fordell Colliery, Fife, Scotland; d. Aft. 1896, Scotland.18. ii. MARGARET PENMAN, b. Apr 8, 1843, Fordell Colliery, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.19. iii. CHRISTIAN PENMAN, b. Apr 8, 1845, Fordell Colliery, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.

iv. RICHARD PENMAN, b. Jul 24, 1847, Fordell Colliery, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland68; d. Unknown, England69.

More About RICHARD PENMAN:Occupation: policeman69

v. JEANIE PENMAN, b. Jan 21, 1852, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland70; d. Unknown; m. ROBERT SIMPSON, Dec31, 1872, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland71; d. Unknown.

More About JEANIE PENMAN:Alternate spelling: Janie

More About ROBERT SIMPSON and JEANIE PENMAN:

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Marriage: Dec 31, 1872, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland71

20. vi. ISABELLA PENMAN, b. Jul 15, 1854, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.

11. WILLIAM3 RAMSAY (ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Mar 26, 1819 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland72, and diedApr 16, 1885 in Larimer, N. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA. He married ELISABETH SHARP Nov 16,1839 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland73, daughter of WILLIAM SHARP and BETTY CRAVEN. She was born Dec 25, 1819in Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland74, and died Aug 13, 1889 in Morewood, Westmoreland Co, PA.

Notes for WILLIAM RAMSAY:Margaret Ramsay Jones gives conflicting information on William's birth date, birth place and marriage date andplace. She states he was born March 25, 1819 in Clackmannan. I have his christening record only, and that tookplace in Dunfermline. She also gives a marriage date of January 1840 in Fordell, Fifeshire, but their marriagecertificate gives the date and place listed here: Nov 16, 1839 in Dalgety. Mrs. Jones confirms that they had tenchildren, five boys and five girls, four of the children dying in infancy.

William was the pioneer in his family. He "talked with his brothers about the possibility of going to the colonies;he even mentioned America, this land about which such exciting stories were being told. But his brothers didn'tincline much to William's idea." (Childers, p. 23.) William, Elisabeth and their five children first came toAmerica in 1852, landing in New York after a six-weeks sailing and then settling in Port Perry, Allegheny Co,PA. The deaths of three of their children there are believed to have motivated them in part to return to Scotlandin 1855.

The lure of increased miner's wages during a Pennsylvania coal boom drew William and his family back toAmerica in 1863. William first worked at Hay's coal mine near Six Mile Ferry, Allegheny Co, PA. At that time,William and his sons Robert, William and Morris were all working together at the same mine. William thenaccepted a better position and moved to Larimer, North Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA. The 1870 USCensus finds the family living in Larimer when William was 50. He died there.

Margaret Ramsay Jones' account follows: "[In Scotland] Grandfather William Ramsay was a contractor and sankcoal mines in Fifeshire. He sank the 'William Pit,' the 'Humbug,' the 'Cardenden,' the 'Hyndlop,' the 'George's'

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and others."

"Grandfather William Ramsay and his entire family sailed from Glasgow, Scotland, April 23, 1852. on their firsttrip to America, and landed in New York in June. They went by rail from New York to Port Perry on theMonongahela River near Pittsburgh, PA, where they remained for two years. They then moved to New Brighton,PA where they lived for six months before moving to the mines near Beck's Run, not far from Homestead, PAwhere they stayed until 1855, when they all returned to their native town of Dunfermline, Scotland."

"In 1863 the entire family returned to America, this time sailing from Liverpool to Philadelphia [see the manifestelsewhere on this site. It lists the family as passengers of the Packet Ship "Tuscarara," Master Richard M.Dunlevy]. Before returning to America, our father, Robert Ramsay, married Janet Erskine, who joined the partyof emigrants."

"The entire family returned to Beck's Run, a small mining town in the Pittsburgh District, but in August 1864,they, all except our parents, moved to Larimer, PA., a coal mining town on the main line of the PennsylvaniaRailroad, 18 miles east of Pittsburgh."

The family's second immigration conflict with the data provided by William's son, George S. Ramsay, on the1900 US census. It states that George, who was born in Scotland, had been living in the US for 44 years, havingarrived here in 1858. Since he would have been only a year old at the time, his parents would have to have comewith him. However, George's younger siblings, Christina and Maria were also born in Scotland. Perhaps theperson who gave the census information made a mistake.

More About WILLIAM RAMSAY:Burial: Apr 1885, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: Bet. 1870 - 1880, N. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA; lived with brother-in-lawChristened: Apr 4, 1819, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland75

Immigrated: Apr 23, 1852, sailed from Glasgow. Scotland, arriving in New York in June76

Immigration 2: 1863, from Scotland via Liverpool, England, to Philadelphia, ship Tuscarara77

Occupation: coal mine superintendent

Notes for ELISABETH SHARP:

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Her children: "The Ramsays who came in 1852 had to live in a bare frame structure [in Port Perry]. It couldnever be made into such a home as Elisabeth Ramsay had always known, and wanted again. Of sanitation, therewas none. Sickness led to epidemic...taking its toll especially of the children. As the years passed, ElisabethRamsay bore three children in America, her adopted land of high hopes and dashed ambitions. Each of thechildren died after a few months of life and sickness. Medical science at Port Perry was on a par with the town'ssanitation and the babies were the sacrifice on the altar of ignorance." (Childers, pp. 27-28) "William andElisabeth made their third sorrowful trip to the little graveyard in Port Perry. Beside the two babies alreadyburied there, they laid a third, a little girl." (Childers, p. 30)

There's some confusion about the three births Ramsay's biographer describes. They were probably Peter, Mayand May. Peter was born in Scotland, not America, and would have been about a year old when the family cameto America. As yet, no official records have been found to document the births of May and May. Their namesexist only in the notes of Mrs. Walter. Margaret Ramsay Jones notes that William and Elisabeth had fivedaughters and five sons.

Following the return of the family to America, daughter Christina would die at the age of eight and daughterMaria would die at the age of twenty-five following childbirth. Perhaps Elisabeth found some solace in thesuccesses of her sons in the mining industry.

The 1880 Household:Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's BirthplaceWilliam Sr. RAMSAY Self M Male W 61 SCOT Retired SCOT SCOTElizabeth RAMSAY Wife M Female W 60 SCOT Keeping House SCOT SCOTMaria RAMSAY Dau S Female W 17 SCOT At Home SCOT SCOTCensus Place Larimer, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania

William and Elisabeth had at least 52 grandchildren.

Margaret Ramsay Jones writes that her grandmother, Elisabeth Sharp Ramsay, died at the home of her son,William Sharpe Ramsay, "who at that time was the superintendent of the Morewood Mine & Coke Works, A &B Shafts, the second largest such plant in America."

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More About ELISABETH SHARP:Alternate spelling: Betty; SharpeBurial: Aug 1889, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PAImmigration: Apr 23, 1852, sailed from Glasgow. Scotland, arriving in New York in June78

Immigration 2: 1863, from Scotland via Liverpool, England, to Philadelphia, ship Tuscarara79

More About WILLIAM RAMSAY and ELISABETH SHARP:Marriage: Nov 16, 1839, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland80

Children of WILLIAM RAMSAY and ELISABETH SHARP are:21. i. ROBERT4 RAMSAY, b. Oct 23, 1840, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Aug 11, 1899, East Kilbride, Lanark,

Scotland.22. ii. ELIZABETH RAMSAY, b. Feb 16, 1843, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. 1889, PA.23. iii. WILLIAM SHARPE RAMSAY, b. Mar 13, 1846, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. 1929, E. Huntington, PA.24. iv. MORRIS RAMSAY, b. Jun 4, 1848, Fordell, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland; d. Dec 29, 1892, Pittsburgh, Allegheny

Co, PA.v. PETER RAMSAY, b. Feb 3, 1851, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland81; d. Bef. 1856, Port Perry, Allegheny Co,

PA82.

More About PETER RAMSAY:Immigrated: 1852, from Scotland

vi. MAY RAMSAY, b. Bet. 1852 - 1855, Port Perry, Allegheny Co, PA83; d. Unknown, Port Perry, AlleghenyCo, PA, aged 11 months83.

vii. MAY RAMSAY, b. Bet. 1852 - 1855, Port Perry, Allegheny Co, PA83; d. Unknown, Port Perry, AlleghenyCo, PA, age 16 months83.

25. viii. GEORGE SHARPE RAMSAY, b. Sep 2, 1857, Dunfermline, Landward, Fife, Scotland; d. Feb 20, 1911, St.Mary's, Elk Co, PA.

ix. CHRISTINA RAMSAY, b. Mar 5, 1860, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland84; d. Apr 5, 1868, PA.

More About CHRISTINA RAMSAY:Alternate spelling: Christian

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Burial: Apr 1868, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PAImmigrated: 1863, from Scotland via Liverpool, England, to Philadelphia, ship Tuscarara85

Misc: died at 8 years, 1 month

26. x. MARIA RAMSAY, b. May 18, 1862, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; d. Feb 8, 1888, Westmoreland Co, PA.

12. MARGARET JANET3 RAMSAY (ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Jun 6, 1821 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland86, anddied Unknown in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland. She married ROBERT PENMAN Oct 17, 1840 in Dalgety, Fife,Scotland87. He was born in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland, and died Unknown.

Notes for MARGARET JANET RAMSAY:My attributed name of Margaret Janet needs to be explained. First, the Scottish birth record of this child statesher name is Janet. There is no Scottish record of a Margaret being born to Robert and Elizabeth. However, aScottish marriage record and a reliable family record states this child's name is Margaret. I believe Janet andMargaret are the same person.

My conclusion is that the name on the original parish record is in error: that is, Janet should be Margaret; or,there was a first and middle name for this child and only one was recorded at birth. I would find this explanationsuspect had I not seen this same situation occur twice in our family's German Church records which arecomparable to the Scottish parish records. During this period of time, there were no birth certificates: churchrecords were the only source of all births recorded.

I have combined the names here so that anyone looking for a birth or marriage record for this child will have abetter chance at finding a birth record for Janet as the child and Margaret as the wife (the name by which herchildren and other descendants knew her, which is why I have put that name first). In addition, in the footnote onthe source of this child's birth I have stated that the birth record indicates the child's name as Janet. Lastly, in thelineage note for Margaret Janet, I have stated that she is "also known as" Janet Ramsay.

More About ROBERT PENMAN and MARGARET RAMSAY:Marriage: Oct 17, 1840, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland87

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Children of MARGARET RAMSAY and ROBERT PENMAN are:i. JOHN4 PENMAN, b. May 27, 1843, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland88; d. Unknown.

ii. ROBERT PENMAN, b. Nov 18, 1844, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland88; d. Unknown.iii. JANE PENMAN, b. Feb 14, 1847, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland88; d. Unknown.

13. MORRIS3 RAMSAY (ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Jul 5, 1823 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland89, and died 1882 inDunfermline, Fife, Scotland90. He married JANE HODGE Jan 17, 1853 in Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland91. Shewas born 1833 in Cowdenbeath, Fife, Scotland92, and died Aft. 1881 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland92.

More About MORRIS RAMSAY:Census: 1881, living at Twibaynes Row, Dunfermline, Fife, 1 year before deathOccupation: coal miner

More About MORRIS RAMSAY and JANE HODGE:Marriage: Jan 17, 1853, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland93

Children of MORRIS RAMSAY and JANE HODGE are:i. ROBERT4 RAMSAY, b. Sep 25, 1855, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland94; d. Unknown.

ii. THOMAS RAMSAY, b. Oct 11, 1857, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland94; d. Unknown.

More About THOMAS RAMSAY:Census: 1881, living with parentsOccupation: coal miner

iii. FEMALE RAMSAY, b. Feb 19, 1860, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland95; d. Unknown.iv. CECILIA RAMSAY, b. Jan 25, 1861, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland96; d. Unknown.v. BETSY RAMSAY, b. Jul 20, 1863, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland97; d. Bef. 1865, Dunfermline, Fife,

Scotland98.vi. BETSY RAMSAY, b. Jan 8, 1865, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland99; d. Unknown.

14. JEAN3 RAMSAY (ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Aug 29, 1825 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland100, and died Aft.1881 in Scotland. She married HENRY BIRRELL Aug 15, 1846 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland101, son of WILLIAM

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BURREL and JANET MUIR. He was born Nov 12, 1823 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland102, and died Aft. 1881 inScotland.

More About JEAN RAMSAY:Alternate spelling: JaneCensus: 1881, lived in the Old Toll House, Dunfermline102

More About HENRY BIRRELL:Alternate spelling: marriage spelled "Berrie"Occupation: coal miner

More About HENRY BIRRELL and JEAN RAMSAY:Marriage: Aug 15, 1846, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland103

Children of JEAN RAMSAY and HENRY BIRRELL are:i. BETSY4 BIRRELL, b. Sep 28, 1847, Dalgety, Fife, Scotland104; d. Unknown.

ii. JANET BIRRELL, b. Jan 4, 1849, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland104; d. Unknown.iii. JEAN BIRRELL, b. Jul 15, 1852, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland104; d. Unknown.iv. WILLIAM BIRRELL, b. Jun 19, 1855, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland105; d. Unknown.v. CHRISTINA BIRRELL, b. Feb 8, 1858, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland105; d. Unknown.

vi. ROBERT BIRRELL, b. Nov 4, 1860, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland105; d. Unknown.

More About ROBERT BIRRELL:Census: 1881, living with parentsOccupation: coal miner

vii. HENRY BIRRELL, b. May 5, 1863, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland105; d. Unknown.viii. JAMES BIRRELL, b. Oct 16, 1865, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland105; d. Bef. 1867, Auchterderran, Fife,

Scotland106.

More About JAMES BIRRELL:Misc: only the 2nd James was on the 1881 census; this one must have died

ix. JAMES BIRRELL, b. Apr 24, 1867, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland107; d. Unknown.

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More About JAMES BIRRELL:Census: 1881, student, age 13, living with parents

15. ISABELLA LANDER3 RAMSAY (ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Dec 27, 1827 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland108,and died Aft. 1881 in Scotland. She married WILLIAM BIRRELL Dec 3, 1849 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland109,son of WILLIAM BURREL and JANET MUIR. He was born Aug 7, 1828 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland110, and died Aft.1881 in Scotland111.

More About ISABELLA LANDER RAMSAY:Census: 1881, lived at Cardenden Colliery, Auchterderran

More About WILLIAM BIRRELL:Occupation: coal miner

More About WILLIAM BIRRELL and ISABELLA RAMSAY:Marriage: Dec 3, 1849, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland112

Children of ISABELLA RAMSAY and WILLIAM BIRRELL are:i. BETSY4 BIRRELL, b. May 3, 1850, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland113; d. Unknown.

ii. WILLIAM BIRRELL, b. Jun 5, 1852, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland113; d. Unknown.iii. ROBERT BIRRELL, b. Jul 8, 1855, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland114; d. Unknown.

More About ROBERT BIRRELL:Census: 1881, living with Jean and Henry BirrellOccupation: coal miner

iv. JANET BIRRELL, b. Jan 2, 1859, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland114; d. Unknown.v. HENRY BIRRELL, b. Mar 21, 1861, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland114; d. Unknown.

More About HENRY BIRRELL:Census: 1881, living with parentsOccupation: coal miner

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vi. ISABELLA BIRRELL, b. Jan 14, 1864, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland114; d. Unknown.

More About ISABELLA BIRRELL:Census: 1881, living with parentsOccupation: domestic servant at age 17

16. AGNES3 RAMSAY (ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Sep 24, 1830 in Cowdenbeath, Fife, Scotland115, and diedAft. 1881 in Scotland116. She married THOMAS NESS May 31, 1851 in Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland117. He wasborn Abt. 1828 in Scotland, and died Bef. 1881 in Scotland.

More About AGNES RAMSAY:Census: 1881, lived at 1 Links Place, Elie, Fife, Scotland118

More About THOMAS NESS:Occupation: coal miner

More About THOMAS NESS and AGNES RAMSAY:Marriage: May 31, 1851, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland119

Children of AGNES RAMSAY and THOMAS NESS are:i. THOMAS4 NESS, b. Jan 23, 1854, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland120; d. Unknown.

ii. ELISABETH NESS, b. 1854, Cowdenbeath, Fife, Scotland121; d. Unknown.

More About ELISABETH NESS:Christened: Apr 23, 1854, Cowdenbeath, Fife, Scotland122

iii. ROBERT NESS, b. Jun 9, 1856, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland123; d. Unknown.iv. JOHN NESS, b. Jul 18, 1859, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland123; d. Unknown.v. DAVID NESS, b. Apr 16, 1862, Elie, Fife, Scotland123; d. Unknown.

vi. WILLIAM MORRIS NESS, b. Sep 15, 1864, Elie, Fife, Scotland123; d. Unknown.vii. HENRY MACKIE NESS, b. Aug 3, 1868, Elie, Fife, Scotland123; d. Unknown.

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More About HENRY MACKIE NESS:Census: 1881, living with mother

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17. BETSY4 PENMAN (CHRISTIAN3 RAMSAY, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Aug 9, 1840 in Fordell Colliery, Fife,Scotland124, and died Aft. 1896 in Scotland. She married JOHN SIMPSON Jan 2, 1860 in Auchterderran, Fife,Scotland125. He was born Abt. 1838 in Scotland, and died Unknown.

More About BETSY PENMAN:Alternate spelling: Elizabeth

More About JOHN SIMPSON and BETSY PENMAN:Marriage: Jan 2, 1860, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland125

Children of BETSY PENMAN and JOHN SIMPSON are:i. CHRISTINA5 SIMPSON, b. May 16, 1860, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland126; d. Unknown.

27. ii. MARY HENDERSON SIMPSON, b. Jul 6, 1862, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.iii. ELIZABETH SIMPSON, b. Sep 11, 1864, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland126; d. Unknown.iv. DAVID SIMPSON, b. May 29, 1867, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland126; d. Unknown.v. JAMES SIMPSON, b. Jan 26, 1870, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland126; d. Unknown.

vi. JOHN SIMPSON, b. Apr 20, 1872, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland126; d. Unknown.vii. RICHARD SIMPSON, b. Dec 6, 1874, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland126; d. Unknown.

28. viii. JEAN SIMPSON, b. Abt. 1882, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland; d. Unknown.

18. MARGARET4 PENMAN (CHRISTIAN3 RAMSAY, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Apr 8, 1843 in Fordell Colliery,Dalgety, Fife, Scotland127, and died Unknown. She married PETER GUTHRIE Nov 22, 1867 in Auchterderran,Fife, Scotland128. He died Unknown.

More About PETER GUTHRIE and MARGARET PENMAN:Marriage: Nov 22, 1867, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland128

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Children of MARGARET PENMAN and PETER GUTHRIE are:i. MARGARET CHRISTIE5 GUTHRIE, b. Apr 25, 1868, Leith, Midlothian, Scotland129; d. Unknown.

ii. JOAN HENDERSON GUTHRIE, b. Jan 9, 1870, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland129; d. Unknown.

Notes for JOAN HENDERSON GUTHRIE:This woman is awfully close in name and birth date to the second wife of Joseph Angus, Jane Guthrie, b. Jan1871 in Scotland.

iii. WILLIAM GUTHRIE, b. Dec 10, 1871, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland129; d. Unknown.iv. JANET PENMAN GUTHRIE, b. Jan 6, 1874, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland129; d. Unknown.

19. CHRISTIAN4 PENMAN (CHRISTIAN3 RAMSAY, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Apr 8, 1845 in Fordell Colliery,Dalgety, Fife, Scotland130, and died Unknown. She married DAVID BOGIE Apr 27, 1866 in Auchterderran, Fife,Scotland131. He died Unknown.

More About DAVID BOGIE and CHRISTIAN PENMAN:Marriage: Apr 27, 1866, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland131

Children of CHRISTIAN PENMAN and DAVID BOGIE are:i. CHRISTINA5 BOGIE, b. Oct 4, 1866, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland132; d. Unknown.

ii. DAVID BOGIE, b. Jul 24, 1868, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland132; d. Unknown.iii. JAMES BOGIE, b. Sep 22, 1870, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland132; d. Unknown.iv. ALEXANDER BOGIE, b. Jan 10, 1873132; d. Unknown.

20. ISABELLA4 PENMAN (CHRISTIAN3 RAMSAY, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Jul 15, 1854 in Auchterderran, Fife,Scotland133, and died Unknown. She married PETER WILSON Nov 18, 1870 in Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland134.He died Unknown.

More About PETER WILSON and ISABELLA PENMAN:Marriage: Nov 18, 1870, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland134

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Children of ISABELLA PENMAN and PETER WILSON are:i. JANET5 WILSON, b. Jan 26, 1871, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland135; d. Unknown.

ii. BETSY WRIGHT WILSON, b. Nov 3, 1872, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland135; d. Unknown.iii. DAVID WILSON, b. Nov 24, 1874, Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland135; d. Unknown.

21. ROBERT4 RAMSAY (WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Oct 23, 1840 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland136, anddied Aug 11, 1899 in East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland137. He married JANET ERSKINE Jan 4, 1861 inDunfermline, Landward, Fife, Scotland138, daughter of WILLIAM ERSKINE and MARGARET WHYTE. She wasborn Oct 19, 1840 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland139, and died Dec 25, 1916 in Big Stone Gap, VA.

Notes for ROBERT RAMSAY:Robert's daughter, Margaret, writes that he was born in Crossgates, a tiny village I have visited. His birth isactually registered in the parish of Dalgety.

Occupation: Robert "eventually became the Superintendent of Mines and General Consulting Engineer for theFrick mines in the Westmoreland/Fayette area of PA. Robert and his son Erskine [designed] many inventionsused in the mining industry. He was superintendent for H.C. Frick Coke and Coal company for 16 years. Hewas also pit boss and superintendent at Shafton Coal company and superintendent for Carnegie Coke atMonastery Coke Works at Latrobe. He received a patent on the Ramsay Ram for pushing wagons on and off thecage...." (Helen Ramsay Walter)

Robert and his wife were not forgotten by their illustrious offspring Erskine. Marjorie Ramsay Laing has theoriginal program for the Dedication of the Ramsay Memorial Organ at the Presbyterian Church, Derry, PA, in1928 by Erskine Ramsay for his late parents. They had been members of the Presbyterian Church in MountPleasant, PA.

More About ROBERT RAMSAY:Burial: Aug 1899, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1870, N. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PAImmigrated: Apr 23, 1852, sailed from Glasgow. Scotland, arriving in New York in June140

Immigration 2: 1863, from Scotland via Liverpool, England, to Philadelphia, ship Tuscarara141

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Misc: died while visiting ScotlandOccupation: Supt. of Mines, HC Frick & Coal Co., Westmoreland/FayetteReligion: Presbyterian; Reunion Presbyterian Church, Mt. Pleasant, PA.Residence: 1899, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA

Notes for JANET ERSKINE:Janet's daughter, Margaret, writes that her mother was born Nov. 19, 1840 at Milesmark, Fifeshire. Again, thedate and place listed here are what was actually registered in the parish. Margaret states the marriage was atMilesmark, but the parish where it was registered is as listed.

1880 Household:Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's BirthplaceRobert RAMSAY Self M Male W 40 SCOT Sup. Shafton Car Co. SCOT SCOTJanet RAMSAY Wife M Female W 40 SCOT Keeping House SCOT SCOTWilliam RAMSAY Son S Male W 18 SCOT Fireman SCOT SCOTErskine RAMSAY Son S Male W 16 PA Engineer SCOT SCOTMargaret RAMSAY Dau S Female W 14 PA At Home SCOT SCOTLizzie RAMSAY Dau S Female W 12 PA At Home SCOT SCOTRobert RAMSAY Son S Male W 11 PA At Home SCOT SCOTJanet RAMSAY Dau S Female W 8 PA At Home SCOT SCOTMorris R. RAMSAY Son S Male W 6 PA At Home SCOT SCOTJohn A. RAMSAY Son S Male W 4 PA At Home SCOT SCOTMary RAMSAY Dau S Female W 3 PA At Home SCOT SCOTCharles RAMSAY Son S Male W 1 PA At Home SCOT SCOTCensus Place Shafton, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania

Social note: "Mt. Pleasant, Dec. 26 [1892]--The Edith Ross Grand Scottish Concert Company drew a fine houseSaturday night. They are certainly excellent singers. The company were entertained over Christmas by Robt.Ramsey and family." (Tribune-Herald, Greensburg, Westmoreland County, PA)

More About JANET ERSKINE:Alternate spelling: Jenny; Jeannette

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Burial: Dec 1916, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1910, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PAImmigrated: 1863, from Scotland via Liverpool, England, to Philadelphia, ship Tuscarara141

Religion: Presbyterian; Reunion Presbyterian Church, Mt. Pleasant, PA

More About ROBERT RAMSAY and JANET ERSKINE:Marriage: Jan 4, 1861, Dunfermline, Landward, Fife, Scotland142

Children of ROBERT RAMSAY and JANET ERSKINE are:29. i. WILLIAM5 RAMSAY, b. Mar 15, 1862, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland; d. 1933, PA.

ii. ERSKINE RAMSAY, b. Sep 24, 1864, Six Mile Ferry, Allegheny Co, PA143; d. Aug 15, 1953, Birmingham,Jefferson Co, AL144.

Notes for ERSKINE RAMSAY:The Rev. Donald A. Jones officiated at his funeral. For details on Erskine's life, see the endnotes forinformation on his biography.

More About ERSKINE RAMSAY:Burial: Unknown, Elmwood Cemetery, Birmingham, ALCensus: 1900, Birmingham, Jefferson Co, ALMisc: principal funder of Ramsay High School building, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PANamesake: the Clan ErskineOccupation: mining superintendent, inventor, millionaire, philanthropist145

Religion: Presbyterian

30. iii. MARGARET RAMSAY, b. Feb 22, 1866, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. 1942, Mt. Pleasant,Westmoreland Co, PA.

iv. ELIZABETH SHARPE RAMSAY, b. Nov 6, 1867, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Sep 21, 1906, PA.

More About ELIZABETH SHARPE RAMSAY:Burial: 1906, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PAMisc: never married

31. v. ROBERT RAMSAY, b. Aug 11, 1869, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Feb 21, 1934, Pittsburgh, PA.32. vi. JANET ERSKINE RAMSAY, b. Aug 17, 1872, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Aft. 1952.

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vii. MORRIS RANDOLPH RAMSAY, b. Mar 15, 1874, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Feb 16, 1917, PA.

More About MORRIS RANDOLPH RAMSAY:Burial: Feb 1917, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PAOccupation: mining engineer/coal operator, Birmingham, AL

viii. JOHN ALEXANDER RAMSAY, b. Feb 16, 1876, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA146; d. Dec 7, 1939; m.NELLIE G. BRECKBILL, 1900, PA146; b. Feb 1876, PA; d. Unknown.

More About JOHN ALEXANDER RAMSAY:Census: 1900, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PAOccupation: superintendent, Frick mines, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA

More About JOHN RAMSAY and NELLIE BRECKBILL:Marriage: 1900, PA146

ix. MARY STUART RAMSAY, b. Nov 3, 1877, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA147; d. 1947, PA.

More About MARY STUART RAMSAY:Burial: 1947, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1910, living with motherMisc: never married

x. CHARLES STUART RAMSAY, b. Jul 30, 1879, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Mar 17, 1923.

More About CHARLES STUART RAMSAY:Burial: 1923, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PAOccupation: in charge of engineering/construction, Birmingham, AL

33. xi. ANDREW CARNEGIE RAMSAY, b. Apr 8, 1881, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Apr 26, 1937.xii. GEORGE SHARPE RAMSAY, b. Jul 22, 1883, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Dec 9, 1931.

More About GEORGE SHARPE RAMSAY:Occupation: engineer

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22. ELIZABETH4 RAMSAY (WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Feb 16, 1843 in Dalgety, Fife, Scotland148,and died 1889 in PA. She married ROBERT MORRIS Nov 4, 1867 in Dunfermline, Landward, Fife, Scotland149.He was born Mar 7, 1837 in Scotland, and died Feb 28, 1900 in PA.

Notes for ELIZABETH RAMSAY:Although Elizabeth's husband and three of her children are buried at Union Cemetery in Irwin, I cannot findwhere Elizabeth is buried.

Their 1880 Household:Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's BirthplaceRobert MORRIS Self M Male W 43 SCOT Coal Miner SCOT SCOTElizabeth MORRIS Wife M Female W 36 SCOT Keeping House SCOT SCOTArthur MORRIS Son S Male W 11 PA At Home SCOT SCOTElizabeth MORRIS Dau S Female W 8 PA At Home SCOT SCOTRobert MORRIS Son S Male W 5 PA At Home SCOT SCOTGeorge MORRIS Son S Male W 3 PA At Home SCOT SCOTAnn MORRIS Dau S Female W 5M PA At Home SCOT SCOTCensus Place Larimer, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania

More About ELIZABETH RAMSAY:Immigrated: Apr 23, 1852, sailed from Glasgow. Scotland, arriving in New York in June150

Immigration 2: 1863, from Scotland via Liverpool, England, to Philadelphia, ship Tuscarara151

Misc: also known as Bessie

More About ROBERT MORRIS:Burial: 1900, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1880, N. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA; lived with brother-in-lawOccupation: 1880, coal miner

More About ROBERT MORRIS and ELIZABETH RAMSAY:Marriage: Nov 4, 1867, Dunfermline, Landward, Fife, Scotland152

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Children of ELIZABETH RAMSAY and ROBERT MORRIS are:34. i. ARTHUR5 MORRIS, b. Oct 1, 1868, PA; d. May 16, 1897, Alverton, E. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co,

PA.ii. WILLIS MORRIS, b. Aft. 1868, PA153; d. Unknown, PA, young.

Notes for WILLIS MORRIS:My aunt Marjorie Laing says there is no record of this child which is, however, in the notes of Helen RamsayWalter. Moreover, in the Ramsay section at the Union Cemetery in Irwin in row 7 with the Morris family is asmall unreadable stone. Perhaps this is Willis' marker.

iii. ELIZABETH MORRIS, b. Sep 1871, Larimer, PA154; d. Aft. 1930, Southwest Greensburg, Westmoreland Co,PA.

Notes for ELIZABETH MORRIS:Elizabeth played mother to her siblings and to the children of George Morris who were living with her in1920-1930. George was not living there in 1930.

More About ELIZABETH MORRIS:Alternate spelling: BessieBurial: Unknown, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: Bet. 1920 - 1930, Southwest Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA; HOH, 512 Sidney StreetMisc: also known as Bessie; never marriedReligion: Presbyterian; Westminster Presbyterian Church, GreensburgResidence: 204 Harrison Avenue, Greensburg

iv. ROBERT J. MORRIS, b. Mar 1875, PA154; d. Unknown.

More About ROBERT J. MORRIS:Census: 1900, Greensburg, PA; 399 N. Main StreetOccupation: civil engineer

35. v. GEORGE MORRIS, b. 1877, PA; d. 1950, PA.vi. ANNIE MORRIS, b. Dec 1879, PA154; d. Aft. 1930, Southwest Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA.

More About ANNIE MORRIS:Census: Bet. 1900 - 1920, living with sister Elizabeth

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Misc: died after Elizabeth

vii. MORRIS RAMSAY MORRIS, b. Mar 1883, PA154; d. Aft. 1930, PA; m. EUGENIA L. UNKNOWN, 1925,PA155; b. 1892, Michigan155; d. Unknown.

More About MORRIS RAMSAY MORRIS:Census: 1920, living with sister ElizabethMisc: died before ElizabethOccupation: superintendent of coal mining company, Windber, PA

More About MORRIS MORRIS and EUGENIA UNKNOWN:Marriage: 1925, PA155

23. WILLIAM SHARPE4 RAMSAY (WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Mar 13, 1846 in Dalgety, Fife,Scotland156, and died 1929 in E. Huntington, PA. He married JANET BONNAR 1870 in PA157, daughter ofWILLIAM BONNAR and BEATRICE MCNEIL. She was born Dec 19, 1852 in Carriden, West Lothian, Scotland158,and died 1916 in PA.

Notes for WILLIAM SHARPE RAMSAY:William "started working in the mines at age 10 years and 4 months...[now at that age the family would havebeen back in Scotland] and continued working in the mines when they returned to PA. He was pit boss atShafton Coal Company, Bewin White Coal Co, Hecla Coal Co, Southwest Coal Co, and H.C. Frick Coke Co. inMorewood where he became the superintendent. He held that position for 22 years including the strikes of 1891and 1894." (Helen Ramsay Walter, daughter of William)

1880 Household:Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's BirthplaceWilliam S. RAMSAY Self M Male W 34 SCOT Pit Boss SCOT SCOTJenet RAMSAY Wife M Female W 27 SCOT Keeping House SCOT SCOTBeatrice RAMSAY Dau S Female W 8 PA At Home SCOT SCOTElizabeth RAMSAY Dau S Female W 7 PA At Home SCOT SCOTJennet RAMSEY Dau S Female W 5 PA At Home SCOT SCOT

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Maria RAMSAY Dau S Female W 4 PA At Home SCOT SCOTCensus Place Shafton, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania

More About WILLIAM SHARPE RAMSAY:Burial: 1929, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: Bet. 1870 - 1920, Mt. Pleasant and E. Huntington Twp, Westmoreland Co, PAImmigrated: Apr 23, 1852, sailed from Glasgow. Scotland, arriving in New York in June159

Immigration 2: 1863, from Scotland via Liverpool, England, to Philadelphia, ship Tuscarara160

Misc: the 1900 census says he immigrated in 1856Occupation: superintendent, Morewood Coal & Coke Works, Frick Carnegie Co.Religion: Presbyterian; Re-Union Presbyterian Church, Mt. Pleasant, PA

More About JANET BONNAR:Alternate spelling: Bonner; BonarBurial: 1916, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PAReligion: Presbyterian; Re-Union Presbyterian Church, Mt. Pleasant, PA

More About WILLIAM RAMSAY and JANET BONNAR:Marriage: 1870, PA161

Children of WILLIAM RAMSAY and JANET BONNAR are:36. i. BEATRICE5 RAMSAY, b. Aug 12, 1872, PA; d. Mar 14, 1940.

ii. ELIZABETH RAMSAY, b. Dec 18, 1873, PA; d. 1948; m. GEORGE HILL, Abt. 1893, PA; d. Unknown.

More About ELIZABETH RAMSAY:Alternate spelling: Bessie

More About GEORGE HILL and ELIZABETH RAMSAY:Marriage: Abt. 1893, PA

iii. JANET RAMSAY, b. Jan 22, 1875, PA; d. 1936; m. ROBERT NICHOLSON, Abt. 1895, PA; d. Unknown.

More About ROBERT NICHOLSON and JANET RAMSAY:

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Marriage: Abt. 1895, PA

iv. MARIA RAMSAY, b. May 8, 1876, PA; d. 1965; m. RAY MILLWARD, Abt. 1896, PA; d. Unknown.

More About RAY MILLWARD and MARIA RAMSAY:Marriage: Abt. 1896, PA

v. STILLBORN RAMSAY, b. Bet. 1877 - 1882, PA; d. Unknown.vi. STILLBORN RAMSAY, b. Bet. 1877 - 1882, PA; d. Unknown.

vii. WILLIAM RAMSAY, b. Bet. 1877 - 1882, PA; d. Jan 20, infancy, age 18 months.

More About WILLIAM RAMSAY:Burial: Unknown, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PAMisc: tombstone is illegible as to dates

viii. ANNA I. RAMSAY, b. Jul 22, 1883, PA; d. 1954, PA.

More About ANNA I. RAMSAY:Burial: 1954, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1920, unmarried; lived in E. Huntingdon, Westmoreland Co, PA with father

ix. CHRISTINIA RAMSAY, b. May 1885, PA; d. 1964; m. FRANK SIMMONS, Abt. 1905, PA; d. Unknown.

More About FRANK SIMMONS and CHRISTINIA RAMSAY:Marriage: Abt. 1905, PA

37. x. MARY RAMSAY, b. Jan 12, 1887, PA; d. Unknown.38. xi. HELEN ERSKINE RAMSAY, b. Mar 9, 1890, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Oct 23, 1976,

Aurora, OH.xii. MALE RAMSAY, b. Bet. 1890 - 1892, PA; d. Unknown, PA.

More About MALE RAMSAY:Misc: died at 1 week of age

xiii. ROBERT RAMSAY, b. Feb 13, 1893, PA162; d. Abt. 1967, Shafton, PA.; m. MARY UNKNOWN; d. Unknown.39. xiv. GRACE RAMSAY, b. Mar 16, 1895, PA; d. 1961.

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24. MORRIS4 RAMSAY (WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Jun 4, 1848 in Fordell, Dalgety, Fife,Scotland163, and died Dec 29, 1892 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co, PA164. He married SADIE MARIAH HELMANGREER May 15, 1870 in Westmoreland Co, PA165, daughter of JACOB HELMAN and MARIA LONG. She was bornJan 1, 1853 in Larimer, N. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA166, and died Jul 12, 1927 in Mount Pleasant,Westmoreland Co, PA167.

Notes for MORRIS RAMSAY:Birthplace: Fordell, a village located in the parish of Dalgety, Fife, had "an extensive colliery...employing nearlyhalf the population,'' according to Westwood's Directory for the Counties of Fife & Kinross, published in 1862,when Morris was 14 years old. My husband and I visited Fordell in 2000. The local pub owner greeted us andhis patrons told stories about the mines in Fordell that have now been exhausted. The only evidence of the once-thriving colliery was the former superintendent's cottage. The miners' pitiful housing had long since been torndown. The graveyard adjacent to the church at Mossgreen was in poor condition since most of the stones wereeither too weathered to read or had sunk into the ground. Giant black bulls grazing behind a stone wall seemedto be the only guardians of the cemetery. There was, however, a spectacular view of the downward slope, ofabout five miles, to the shores of the Forth and the magnificent bridge that spans the waters there.

Mentor: Morris was a mentor to his nephew, Erskine Ramsay, who became a millionaire. Erskine's biographymakes numerous references to the part Morris played in his nephew's life, including his serving as a math tutor tothe boy who would eventually donate over five million dollars to educational and other causes.

Occupation: "Morris Ramsay, after completing a common school education, began learning the trade ofmachinist at Dunfermline, his birthplace, and completed the same at Pittsburg, Pennsylvania, in which city hisparents located upon their arrival in this country in 1852. From 1864 to 1869 he worked in the mines of theWestmoreland Coal Company, and in the latter year was appointed mining boss at the Shafton coal mines, inwhich capacity he served for ten years. He then removed to Houtzdale, Clearfield county, Pennsylvania, and wassuperintendent of the Kittanning Coal Company's mines for two years. In 1882 he became superintendent ofmines at Morewood; he was transferred two years later to the position of mining engineer for the Frick CokeCompany, his services in this capacity being of great value to his employers. In 1886 he was madesuperintendent by the above company of their coke plants at Morewood, Warden, Dillinger, Alice and Tarr's.

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The ovens at these works numbered 1151, of the eight thousand owned or operated by the Southwest Coal andCoke Company....Among the works of Mr. Ramsay's engineering in the Connellsville coke region are: The Risttipple, the air shaft at Morewood, the Trotter plant and the new Henry Clay coke works near Broad Ford, Fayettecounty, Pennsylvania." (Jordan, pp. 334-335) Morris and his brother Robert also held management positionsduring the Morewood Mine Riot in 1891.

His death: In Henry Clay Frick: An Intimate Portrait, by Martha Frick Symington Sanger, the author notes aboutgreat-grandfather's death: "The H.C. Frick Coke Company's Morewood Superintendent, Morris Ramsay, who hadnamed his infant daughter after Frick's wife, Adelaide, was fatally injured in a carriage accident....AlthoughRamsay was sent by Frick to a Pittsburgh hospital, he died in surgery. Frick served as a pallbearer at Ramsay'sfuneral and offered financial aid to his devastated widow." (p. 231) For some years, this version of MorrisRamsay's death was an accepted family fact and as shown above, found its way into print.

However, in 2002, I obtained a copy of Morris' death certificate from the Allegheny County coroner's office. Iwas stunned to learn that the cause of his death was listed as cancer of the pancreas. In September 2002, Ireturned to Greensburg and searched through the microfilm of the then-weekly Tribune-Herald. I did not find anobituary but did find two other mentions. "Morris Ramsey [sic], Superintendent of the Morewood Works, wastaken to Dr. Sutton's private hospital, Pittsburg, to have an operation performed in hopes of benefiting his health,which has been on the decline for some months. The operation will be performed Thursday." This item wasreported on Jan. 4, 1893. The following week, the paper reported that Morris had died while undergoing anoperation. Then in January 2003, Marjorie Ramsay Laing sent me two obituaries from the Mt. Pleasant Journalthat clearly state that Morris died of cancer. How the carriage accident story got started I do not know but it wasclearly a myth.

Morris Ramsay died at 11 P.M. on Dec. 29, 1892 at Dr. R.S. Sutton's private hospital at the age of 44 years, 6months, 25 days. He had filed his will only a month previously. Pictures of Morris Ramsay and his family,home and colleagues may be viewed on my website (http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/e/c/Barbara--BeckRamsay/index.html) in the photo section. In the text section, there is the full text of his biography,obituaries and his will.

More About MORRIS RAMSAY:Burial: Jan 2, 1893, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PA

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Cause of Death: cancer of the pancreasCensus: 1870, N. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PAImmigrated: Apr 23, 1852, sailed from Glasgow. Scotland, arriving in New York in June168

Immigration 2: 1863, from Scotland via Liverpool, England, to Philadelphia, ship Tuscarara169

Namesake: his forename is surname of his grandmother, Elizabeth MorrisNaturalized: Sep 30, 1869, Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co, PAOccupation: Chief Engineer for the H.C. Frick Coke Company170

Religion: PresbyterianResidence: 1892, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PAWill: Nov 2, 1892, date filed; No. 12 of 1893, Westmoreland Co, PA

Notes for SADIE MARIAH HELMAN GREER:Parentage: Sadie's natural parents were Maria Long and Jacob Helman. Sadie's mother died two days aftergiving birth to her. Apparently, her father felt that he could not care for her properly. The Greers, next doorneighbors of Jacob in the 1850 census, agreed to raise Sadie as their own since they were childless. The 1860census shows Sadie, aged seven, living with the Greers in Larimer, N. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co., asSadie Helman. Her natural father had moved elsewhere by that time. Years passed, and during that time Sadiewas provided with every advantage including her own piano, recalls Marjorie Ramsay Laing.

George Greer was born in 1817 in Westmoreland Co, PA, and died after 1880. His first wife, Sadie's adoptivemother, was Sarah Ewing, born in 1827 in PA, and died on Nov. 18, 1869. In the census for 1870, the year Sadiewas married, George Greer, recently a widower, listed his occupation as "gentleman" and declared his propertywas worth $10,000. (George would marry twice more, to Harriet Baughman and then after her death, to HannahUnknown. Hannah died after 1900 in Greensburg, PA.)

On the occasion of Sadie's marriage to Morris, George Greer legally adopted Sadie, then just over the age of 17,so that she could be his heir. After being told that the man she had known as a family friend was indeed hernatural father, Sadie became reacquainted with the Helmans. Jacob had since remarried and fathered severalother children. The Helmans, Longs and the Greers had all lived in the Larimer area and each family acceptedSadie equally, it was said. (Sadie's death certificate lists her father as George A. Greer.)

Marriage: As her husband pursued his ascending career in mining, Sadie was left to care for the children. Of her

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thirteen children, only nine were alive at the time of the 1900 US census. Two babies were stillborn. Two moreyoung daughters died in a diphtheria epidemic. In fact, within a two-year period, Sadie had lost three children,her first grandchild and her husband. Prior to those deaths, the family had at least enjoyed a sense of luxury inthe Victorian "Big House" in Mount Pleasant that still exists today. The current owner, a non-family member, issaid to have restored the house consistent with the period in which the Ramsays lived there.

Moving: The Ramsay family bible, through the record of births of the children of Sadie and Morris, showsclearly where the family lived in PA: Shafton, Penn Twp, Westmoreland Co., 1870-1878; Houtzdale, ClearfieldCo, 1880; Loyalhanna, Derry Twp, Westmoreland Co,1881; Monastery, Unity Twp, Westmoreland Co.,1882;Trotter, Fayette Co, 1884-1887; Morewood, E. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co., 1887 onward.

The 1880 Household:Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's BirthplaceMorris RAMSEY Self M Male W 31 SCOT Supt. At Coal Mines SCOT SCOTSadia M. RAMSEY Wife M Female W 27 PA Keeping House PA PAWilliam RAMSEY Son S Male W 9 PA SCOT PASadia M RAMSEY Dau S Female W 7 PA SCOT PALizzia A. RAMSEY Dau S Female W 5 PA SCOT PAHannah G. RAMSEY Dau S Female W 3 PA SCOT PAGeorge RAMSEY Son S Male W 2 PA SCOT PAHarriet DAVIS Other S Female W 20 WALES Servant WALES WALESCensus Place Houtzdale, Clearfield, Pennsylvania

Sadie and Morris had 40 grandchildren, only two of which were born during Morris' short lifetime. Their firstgrandchild, Morris Byers Ramsay, died just a few days before the death of Morris.

The census data at the turn of the century shows that Sadie was living with daughters Alice and Adelaide at 242Walnut Street, Mount Pleasant. Sadie had owned her home, free of mortgage, for seven years. "Mrs. Sadie M.Ramsay, widow of Morris Ramsay, resides in a comfortable home in Mount Pleasant, is highly esteemed in thecommunity, and enjoys the acquaintance of a wide circle of friends." (Jordan, p. 335) Sadie continued to livewith Adelaide until her death that occurred at 3:30 P.M. on July 12, 1927. She had outlived her husband by 35years. She died at the age of 74 years, 6 months, 13 days.

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Her obituary read: "Mrs. Sadie Greer Ramsay, widow of the late Morris Ramsay, died late Tuesday afternoon ather home, 729 Walnut Street. She had only been sick since the previous Saturday. Deceased was 74 years of ageon last New Year’s Day. She is survived by one brother, William Helman, of South Greensburg and by thefollowing children: William Ramsay, Bethlehem; Mrs. Sadie Eaton, Brownsville; Mrs. John L. Shields, WalnutCorner; George Ramsay, Bradenville; Mrs. Christena Stahl, Brownsville; Robert Ramsay, Greensburg; MissAlice I. Ramsay, 729 Walnut Street; and Mrs. John P. Clarke, Jr., Dormont. Her descendants numbered 40grandchildren and 16 great-grandchildren. Funeral services will be held at the home at 2 o’clock Friday afternoonfollowed by internment in the family lot in the Union cemetery located at Irwin."

Pictures of Sadie and her family and the text of her will and obituaries may be viewed on my website at:http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/e/c/Barbara--BeckRamsay/index.html

More About SADIE MARIAH HELMAN GREER:Alternate spelling: Sadie Maria; SarahBurial: Jul 15, 1927, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACause of Death: strokeNamesake: of her adoptive mother, Sarah (Sadie) EwingOccupation: homemakerReligion: Presbyterian; Reunion Presbyterian Church, Mt. Pleasant, PAWill: Oct 30, 1925, date filed; No. 443 of 1925, Westmoreland Co, PA

More About MORRIS RAMSAY and SADIE GREER:Marriage: May 15, 1870, Westmoreland Co, PA171

Children of MORRIS RAMSAY and SADIE GREER are:40. i. WILLIAM5 RAMSAY, b. Nov 23, 1870, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Apr 13, 1943, Easton, PA.41. ii. SADIE MARIA RAMSAY, b. Mar 16, 1873, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Apr 4, 1946, Brownsville,

Fayette Co, PA.42. iii. ELIZABETH SHARPE RAMSAY, b. Aug 14, 1874, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Feb 5, 1904, Fairmont,

W. VA.43. iv. HANNAH GREER RAMSAY, b. Jun 17, 1876, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Aug 20, 1968, Greensburg,

Westmoreland Co, PA.

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44. v. GEORGE MORRIS RAMSAY, b. Mar 25, 1878, Shafton, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Oct 3, 1934, Bradenville,Westmoreland Co, PA.

vi. INFANT RAMSAY, b. Jan 29, 1880, Houtzdale, Clearfield Co, PA172; d. Jan 29, 1880, Houtzdale, ClearfieldCo, PA173.

More About INFANT RAMSAY:Burial: 1880, Houtzdale, Clearfield Co, PA

45. vii. MARY CHRISTINA RAMSAY, b. Apr 13, 1881, Loyalhanna, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. May 8, 1968,Hempfield Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA.

viii. JANET ROBERTA RAMSAY, b. Sep 20, 1882, Monastery, Westmoreland Co, PA174; d. Sep 16, 1891,Morewood, Westmoreland Co, PA175.

More About JANET ROBERTA RAMSAY:Burial: 1891, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACause of Death: diphtheriaMisc: died in the epidemic

46. ix. ROBERT ALEXANDER RAMSAY, b. Sep 16, 1884, Trotter, Fayette Co, PA; d. Jun 29, 1970, Ligonier,Westmoreland Co, PA.

x. ALICE ISABELA RAMSAY, b. Mar 13, 1886, Trotter, Fayette Co, PA176; d. Sep 2, 1963, Mount Pleasant,Westmoreland Co, PA177.

More About ALICE ISABELA RAMSAY:Burial: 1963, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1910, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PAMisc: never marriedOccupation: 1930, book keeper, bank

xi. NELLIE CATHARINE RAMSAY, b. Oct 4, 1887, the "Big House," Morewood, Westmoreland Co, PA178; d.Aug 12, 1891, Morewood, Westmoreland Co, PA179.

More About NELLIE CATHARINE RAMSAY:Burial: 1891, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACause of Death: diphtheriaMisc: died in the epidemic

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xii. INFANT DAUGHTER RAMSAY, b. Jan 5, 1890, Morewood, Westmoreland Co, PA180; d. Jan 5, 1890,Morewood, Westmoreland Co, PA181.

More About INFANT DAUGHTER RAMSAY:Burial: 1890, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PA

47. xiii. ADELAIDE FRICK RAMSAY, b. Feb 3, 1892, Morewood, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Jul 14, 1982, JeffersonBoro, PA.

25. GEORGE SHARPE4 RAMSAY (WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Sep 2, 1857 in Dunfermline,Landward, Fife, Scotland182, and died Feb 20, 1911 in St. Mary's, Elk Co, PA183. He married JEAN R. CAMERON1880 in Houtzdale, Clearfield Co, PA, daughter of PETER CAMERON and UNKNOWN. She was born Apr 1859 inPA184, and died Aft. Apr 2, 1930 in St. Mary's, Elk Co, PA.

Notes for GEORGE SHARPE RAMSAY:George was also previously: a blacksmith and a pit boss for Loyalhanna Coke Company and White CoalCompany; coal superintendent at Morewood, PA, at the Colorado Coal and Mining Co. in Colorado, at the DavisCoal Company in West Virginia, and a company in Wyoming (Walter notes). In 1910, my grandfather, RobertAlexander Ramsay, Sr., was living with George in St. Mary's just prior to his marriage to Nina Allshouse.

More About GEORGE SHARPE RAMSAY:Burial: Feb 24, 1911, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1870; 1900; 1910Immigrated: 1863, from Scotland via Liverpool, England, to Philadelphia, ship Tuscarara185

Misc: 1900, his immigration date on census, like brother William's, conflicts with ChildersOccupation: General Superintendent, Shawmut Coal Co, St. Mary's, Elk Co, PA

More About JEAN R. CAMERON:Burial: 1930, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1930, St. Mary's, Elk Co, PA; N. Michael St.

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Misc: parents born in Scotland; she lived in St. Mary's Twp, Elk Co

More About GEORGE RAMSAY and JEAN CAMERON:Marriage: 1880, Houtzdale, Clearfield Co, PA

Children of GEORGE RAMSAY and JEAN CAMERON are:i. CHRISTINE CAMERON5 RAMSAY, b. Nov 12, 1881, Snowshoe, PA186; d. Jun 8, 1969, St. Mary's, Elk Co,

PA.

More About CHRISTINE CAMERON RAMSAY:Burial: Jun 10, 1969, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: Bet. 1910 - 1930, St. Mary's, Elk Co, PA; N. Michael St.Education: graduate, Mansfield State Teacher's CollegeMember: Order of the Eastern StarMisc: never marriedOccupation: teacher for 40 years in St. Mary's, PA.Religion: Presbyterian

48. ii. ELIZABETH M. RAMSAY, b. Jul 1883, PA; d. 1968, PA.iii. GRACE A. RAMSAY, b. Jul 1891, PA187; d. 1921, PA.

More About GRACE A. RAMSAY:Alternate spelling: Jeanne Grace C., 1900 US censusBurial: 1921, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: Bet. 1910 - 1920, Elks Co, PA.Misc: never marriedOccupation: teacher

26. MARIA4 RAMSAY (WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born May 18, 1862 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland188,and died Feb 8, 1888 in Westmoreland Co, PA189. She married JOSEPH ANGUS Abt. 1887 in Westmoreland Co,PA. He was born Sep 1858 in Scotland190, and died 1908 in Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA.

Notes for MARIA RAMSAY:

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Maria died at the age of 25 years, 8 months and 21 days, a month after the birth of her son Robert. Robert diedat the age of 19. Maria's husband Joseph remarried, to Jane Guthrie, and had four children as noted, one ofwhom died in infancy. Joseph died a year after his son Robert. Joseph, Jane and Robert all share on large stonemarker at the cemetery near Maria's headstone.

More About MARIA RAMSAY:Burial: Feb 1888, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1870, living at home with parentsImmigrated: 1863, from Scotland via Liverpool, England, to Philadelphia, ship Tuscarara

More About JOSEPH ANGUS:Burial: 1908, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1900, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PAImmigrated: 1881Misc: killed by a streetcar191

Occupation: fire boss, coal mines

More About JOSEPH ANGUS and MARIA RAMSAY:Marriage: Abt. 1887, Westmoreland Co, PA

Child of MARIA RAMSAY and JOSEPH ANGUS is:i. ROBERT5 ANGUS, b. Jan 1888, PA192; d. 1907, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA.

More About ROBERT ANGUS:Burial: 1907, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PATentative ID: as Maria's son, based on census & family info

Generation No. 5

27. MARY HENDERSON5 SIMPSON (BETSY4 PENMAN, CHRISTIAN3 RAMSAY, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Jul 6,1862 in Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland193, and died Unknown. She married UNKNOWN MACKIE. He diedUnknown.

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Children of MARY SIMPSON and UNKNOWN MACKIE are:i. SON6 MACKIE, b. Abt. 1895; d. Unknown.

ii. SON MACKIE, b. Abt. 1891; d. Unknown.

28. JEAN5 SIMPSON (BETSY4 PENMAN, CHRISTIAN3 RAMSAY, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1882 inAuchterderran, Fife, Scotland194, and died Unknown. She married ARTHUR JAMES ROBINSON. He diedUnknown.

More About JEAN SIMPSON:Alternate spelling: Jane

More About ARTHUR JAMES ROBINSON:Occupation: Lieutenant

Children of JEAN SIMPSON and ARTHUR ROBINSON are:i. JOHN6 ROBINSON, b. Private.

ii. DOUGLAS RAMSAY ROBINSON, b. Private.iii. JEAN DORIS ROBINSON, b. Private; m. MARTIN HERRETT, Private; b. Private.

More About MARTIN HERRETT and JEAN ROBINSON:Private-Begin: Private

29. WILLIAM5 RAMSAY (ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Mar 15, 1862 in Dunfermline, Fife,Scotland195, and died 1933 in PA. He married (1) UNKNOWN. She died Unknown. He married (2) MATILDA J.MORRISON 1895196. She was born 1872 in PA196, and died Aft. 1920 in PA.

Notes for WILLIAM RAMSAY:William's daughter June and her son were living with him and his wife in 1920. I cannot find William in the1930 census in PA.

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More About WILLIAM RAMSAY:Census: Bet. 1910 - 1920, Derry Twp. Westmoreland Co PAOccupation: locomotive engineer, PRR197

Notes for MATILDA J. MORRISON:I did not realize until closer inspection of the 1910 census that William had been married twice. June was adaughter of his first wife since Matilda states on the census that she had no children.

More About MATILDA J. MORRISON:Alternate spelling: TillyMisc: brother James Morrison, 43, lived with them in 1910

More About WILLIAM RAMSAY and MATILDA MORRISON:Marriage: 1895198

Child of WILLIAM RAMSAY and UNKNOWN is:49. i. JUNE6 RAMSAY, b. 1894, PA; d. Unknown.

30. MARGARET5 RAMSAY (ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Feb 22, 1866 in Shafton,Westmoreland Co, PA199, and died 1942 in Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA. She married THOMAS JONES1897 in Westmoreland Co, PA199. He was born Jan 1861 in PA199, and died Aft. 1930 in Mt. Pleasant,Westmoreland Co, PA.

More About MARGARET RAMSAY:Alternate spelling: PegBurial: Unknown, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: Bet. 1920 - 1930, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA

More About THOMAS JONES:Occupation: manufacturer, 1920 US census

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More About THOMAS JONES and MARGARET RAMSAY:Marriage: 1897, Westmoreland Co, PA199

Children of MARGARET RAMSAY and THOMAS JONES are:i. ROBERT RAMSAY6 JONES, b. Jun 1898, PA199; d. Unknown.

ii. ERSKINE R. JONES, b. Dec 9, 1899, PA199; d. Jul 1969, Red Bank, Monmouth, NJ200.iii. MARGARET R. JONES, b. 1905, PA201; d. Unknown.iv. JANET E. JONES, b. Private.v. SARAH H. JONES, b. Private.

31. ROBERT5 RAMSAY (ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Aug 11, 1869 in Shafton,Westmoreland Co, PA202, and died Feb 21, 1934 in Pittsburgh, PA. He married (1) LAURA B. MEYERS Abt.1895 in PA. She was born 1870 in PA203, and died 1914 in PA. He married (2) STELLA BITTNER 1923 inKecksburg, PA. She was born Jan 1, 1888 in Mammoth, PA, and died Jun 1971.

More About ROBERT RAMSAY:Burial: Unknown, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: Bet. 1910 - 1920, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PAOccupation: mining engineer & superintendent for Frick at United

More About LAURA B. MEYERS:Burial: Unknown, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA

More About ROBERT RAMSAY and LAURA MEYERS:Marriage: Abt. 1895, PA

More About STELLA BITTNER:Burial: Unknown, LaFayette, CA

More About ROBERT RAMSAY and STELLA BITTNER:Marriage: 1923, Kecksburg, PA

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Children of ROBERT RAMSAY and LAURA MEYERS are:50. i. HELEN MARGARET6 RAMSAY, b. May 22, 1895, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Mar 10, 1968, Mt.

Lebanon, PA.ii. ROBERT RAMSAY, b. 1897, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA203; d. Sep 29, 1918, France.

More About ROBERT RAMSAY:Burial: Unknown, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PAMilitary service: killed in WWI at the age of 21204

Residence: lived in United, Westmoreland Co, PA prior to his death

51. iii. JEAN ERSKINE RAMSAY, b. Oct 19, 1898, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Dec 23, 1983,Birmingham, AL.

iv. MARY LOUISE RAMSAY, b. 1900, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA205; d. Feb 13, 1951, Greensburg,Westmoreland Co, PA; m. JAMES RUSSELL TOPPER; b. 1895; d. 1956.

More About MARY LOUISE RAMSAY:Burial: Unknown, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PAMisc: no children in this marriage

More About JAMES RUSSELL TOPPER:Burial: Unknown, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA

52. v. ERSKINE CULPEPPER RAMSAY, b. May 19, 1906, PA; d. Sep 1975, Miami, Miami-Dade, FL.

Child of ROBERT RAMSAY and STELLA BITTNER is:53. vi. LOIS ANN6 RAMSAY, b. Private.

32. JANET ERSKINE5 RAMSAY (ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Aug 17, 1872 in Shafton,Westmoreland Co, PA, and died Aft. 1952. She married MARVIN K. KELLY Bef. 1911. He was born 1877, anddied 1951.

Notes for JANET ERSKINE RAMSAY:Her husband is buried in the Ramsay section at Union, but I cannot find Janet.

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More About JANET ERSKINE RAMSAY:Alternate spelling: Janette, censusCensus: 1920, Richmond, VAMisc: 1953, was living in Ligonier, PA when Erskine died

More About MARVIN K. KELLY:Burial: 1951, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1920, Richmond, VAOccupation: 1920, coal company, position unreadable on census

More About MARVIN KELLY and JANET RAMSAY:Marriage: Bef. 1911

Child of JANET RAMSAY and MARVIN KELLY is:i. ERSKINE6 KELLY, b. Private.

33. ANDREW CARNEGIE5 RAMSAY (ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Apr 8, 1881 in Shafton,Westmoreland Co, PA206, and died Apr 26, 1937. He married MARY RUTH MCLESTER Apr 27, 1912. She wasborn Oct 30, 1885, and died Unknown.

More About ANDREW CARNEGIE RAMSAY:Census: 1910, living with mother in Mount PleasantNamesake: after Andrew CarnegieOccupation: mining engineer

More About ANDREW RAMSAY and MARY MCLESTER:Marriage: Apr 27, 1912

Children of ANDREW RAMSAY and MARY MCLESTER are:54. i. ANDREW CARNEGIE6 RAMSAY, b. Private.

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55. ii. ROBERT MCLESTER RAMSAY, b. Private.

34. ARTHUR5 MORRIS (ELIZABETH4 RAMSAY, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Oct 1, 1868 in PA207, anddied May 16, 1897 in Alverton, E. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA208. He married EMMA PASTORIA.She died Unknown.

More About ARTHUR MORRIS:Burial: May 1897, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PAMisc: died in or after a coal mine accident at age 23 in Alverton, E. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA208

Child of ARTHUR MORRIS and EMMA PASTORIA is:i. FEMALE6 MORRIS, d. Unknown.

35. GEORGE5 MORRIS (ELIZABETH4 RAMSAY, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born 1877 in PA, and died 1950in PA. He married ALICE A. UNKNOWN Bef. 1913 in Westmoreland Co, PA. She was born 1891 in PA, anddied 1918 in Westmoreland Co, PA.

More About GEORGE MORRIS:Burial: 1950, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: Bet. 1900 - 1920, he and his children lived with ElizabethMisc: died after ElizabethOccupation: coal mining engineer

Notes for ALICE A. UNKNOWN:According to John Ramsay Clarke, when Alice delivered her daughter, the doctor thought the baby was stillborn.The child was put aside while efforts were made to keep Alice alive. At some point, the doctor realized that thebaby was alive but in poor condition. Alice the mother died, while Alice the newborn survived although she wassaid to have been severely retarded.

More About ALICE A. UNKNOWN:Burial: 1918, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PA

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Cause of Death: died just after giving birth

More About GEORGE MORRIS and ALICE UNKNOWN:Marriage: Bef. 1913, Westmoreland Co, PA

Children of GEORGE MORRIS and ALICE UNKNOWN are:i. ROBERT C.6 MORRIS, b. Feb 25, 1913, Westmoreland Co, PA209; d. Sep 28, 1991, PA210.

ii. RUTH MORRIS, b. Private; m. ANSON SOLEN, Private; b. Private.

More About ANSON SOLEN and RUTH MORRIS:Private-Begin: Private

iii. ALICE A. MORRIS, b. Private.

36. BEATRICE5 RAMSAY (WILLIAM SHARPE4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Aug 12, 1872 in PA, anddied Mar 14, 1940. She married DAVID BYARS CLARK May 17, 1893 in Westmoreland Co, PA211. He was bornNov 19, 1869 in Forfar, Angus, Scotland212, and died Unknown.

More About BEATRICE RAMSAY:Census: 1900, says she was born in 1871

Notes for DAVID BYARS CLARK:Son of John Alexander Clark and Margaret Byars.

More About DAVID BYARS CLARK:Census: Bet. 1900 - 1910, Latrobe, Westmoreland Co, PAOccupation: 1920, miningResidence: 1920, Derry Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA

More About DAVID CLARK and BEATRICE RAMSAY:Marriage: May 17, 1893, Westmoreland Co, PA213

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Children of BEATRICE RAMSAY and DAVID CLARK are:i. MARGARET6 CLARK, b. Apr 1895214; d. Unknown.

ii. WILLIAM RAMSAY CLARK, b. Feb 1897, PA214; d. 1915, PA.

More About WILLIAM RAMSAY CLARK:Burial: 1915, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PA

iii. JANET CLARK, b. Jan 1899214; d. Unknown.

More About JANET CLARK:Alternate spelling: Jennie B.

iv. ELIZABETH CLARK, b. 1902215; d. Unknown.v. BEATRICE CLARK, b. 1905215; d. Unknown.

vi. MARIE CLARK, b. Private.

37. MARY5 RAMSAY (WILLIAM SHARPE4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Jan 12, 1887 in PA, and diedUnknown. She married CHARLES EVANS Abt. 1907 in PA. He was born Abt. 1884 in PA, and died Unknown.

More About CHARLES EVANS:Census: 1920, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA

More About CHARLES EVANS and MARY RAMSAY:Marriage: Abt. 1907, PA

Children of MARY RAMSAY and CHARLES EVANS are:i. JANE6 EVANS, b. Private.

ii. ELENORA EVANS, b. Private.

38. HELEN ERSKINE5 RAMSAY (WILLIAM SHARPE4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Mar 9, 1890 inMount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA216, and died Oct 23, 1976 in Aurora, OH216. She married HARRY W.WALTER Abt. 1910 in PA. He was born Aug 21, 1885 in OH216, and died Mar 1980 in Wooster, Wayne, OH216.

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More About HELEN ERSKINE RAMSAY:Alternate spelling: NellieCensus: 1910Misc: lived in Wooster, OH most of their married life

More About HARRY WALTER and HELEN RAMSAY:Marriage: Abt. 1910, PA

Children of HELEN RAMSAY and HARRY WALTER are:56. i. JANET RAMSAY6 WALTER, b. Private.

ii. WILLIAM WALTER, b. Private.iii. SARAH WALTER, b. Private.

39. GRACE5 RAMSAY (WILLIAM SHARPE4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Mar 16, 1895 in PA217, anddied 1961. She married PAUL DEFFENBAUGH Aft. 1920. He died Unknown.

More About GRACE RAMSAY:Misc: lived in East Huntingdon w/father in 1920

More About PAUL DEFFENBAUGH and GRACE RAMSAY:Marriage: Aft. 1920

Child of GRACE RAMSAY and PAUL DEFFENBAUGH is:i. PAUL H.6 DEFFENBAUGH, b. Aug 12, 1928, PA218; d. Apr 8, 2000, Murrysville, Westmoreland, PA218.

Notes for PAUL H. DEFFENBAUGH:Paul H. Deffenbaugh, of Murrysville, formerly of Churchill, on Saturday, April 8, 2000. Beloved husband ofLeah Deffenbaugh. Dear father of Paul, Robert ``Butch'' and Rebecca Kuba. Brother of the late Jane Yount.Grandfather of Danielle and Samuel Deffenbaugh. Mr. Deffenbaugh was principal of Forest Hills JuniorHigh and Wilkins Junior High of the Churchill Area School District. Friends will be received at the WOLFEMEMORIAL INC./FOREST HILLS CHAPEL, 3604 Greensburg Pike, (412) 731-5001, Monday from 7 to 9

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p.m. and Tuesday from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. Memorial service at Beulah Presbyterian Church, Churchill,Wednesday at 11 a.m. In lieu of flowers, contributions may be made to the Beulah Presbyterian Church orthe American Cancer Society.

40. WILLIAM5 RAMSAY (MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Nov 23, 1870 in Shafton,Westmoreland Co, PA219, and died Apr 13, 1943 in Easton, PA220. He married JESSIE THOMPSON Dec 17, 1891in Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA221, daughter of JOSEPH THOMPSON and SARAH FLENNIKEN. She wasborn Oct 25, 1872 in Greene Co, Pennsylvania, and died Dec 26, 1944 in Bethlehem, PA222.

Notes for WILLIAM RAMSAY:"SON SUCCEEDS FATHERWill Ramsey Appointed General Manager of the Morewood Works.

Will Ramsey has been appointed General Manager of the H.C. Frick Coke Company's Works at Morewood tosucceed his father, Morris Ramsey, who died last Friday, December 30th, while undergoing an operation in Dr.Sutton's private hospital, Pittsburg.

The appointment is a good one and meets with the approbation of the men employed at these works." (Tribune-Herald, Greensburg, Westmoreland County, PA, January 11, 1893. Note that Morris died on the 29th, not the30th.)

More About WILLIAM RAMSAY:Alternate spelling: WillBurial: 1943, Bethlehem, PACensus: 1930, Bethlehem, Northampton Co, PANamesake: of his grandfather William RamsayOccupation: gen. supt. coke works, Tinicum, PA223

Notes for JESSIE THOMPSON:

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In 1930, the couple's younger son and three youngest daughters lived with them in Bethlehem. Daughter Helenand her husband lived next door.

More About JESSIE THOMPSON:Burial: 1944, Bethlehem, PAMisc: lost five children in their infancy

More About WILLIAM RAMSAY and JESSIE THOMPSON:Marriage: Dec 17, 1891, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA224

Children of WILLIAM RAMSAY and JESSIE THOMPSON are:i. MORRIS BYERS6 RAMSAY, b. Aug 1892, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co., PA; d. Dec 1892, Mount

Pleasant, Westmoreland Co., PA.

Notes for MORRIS BYERS RAMSAY:"Mt. Pleasant, Dec. 26 [1892]--Mr. And Mrs. Will Ramsey, Jr., buried their only child today. The little onethat blessed this happy home was but four months old." (Tribune-Herald, Greensburg, WestmorelandCounty, PA)

More About MORRIS BYERS RAMSAY:Burial: Dec 26, 1892, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co., PA

57. ii. OLIVE RAMSAY, b. Nov 18, 1893, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co., PA; d. Apr 13, 1970, Birmingham,AL.

iii. FRANK HASKELL RAMSAY, b. 1895, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co., PA; d. Abt. 1895, infancy inMount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co., PA.

iv. KATHRYN RAMSAY, b. Feb 27, 1897, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co., PA; d. Bef. 1996; m. (1) JOSEPHGRIFFITH, Apr 12, 1927; b. Abt. 1893, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Unknown; m. (2) JOHNHENRY AYERS, Feb 11, 1941; b. Abt. 1893, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Unknown; m. (3)HENRY GLEN CASON, Private; b. Private.

More About KATHRYN RAMSAY:Residence: 1970, Orlando, FL

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More About JOSEPH GRIFFITH and KATHRYN RAMSAY:Marriage: Apr 12, 1927

More About JOHN HENRY AYERS:Misc: Title: Captain

More About JOHN AYERS and KATHRYN RAMSAY:Marriage: Feb 11, 1941

More About HENRY CASON and KATHRYN RAMSAY:Private-Begin: Private

v. WILLIAM THOMPSON RAMSAY, b. 1898, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co., PA; d. Abt. 1898, infancy inMount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co., PA.

vi. LINDSAY RAMSAY, b. 1900, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co., PA; d. Abt. 1900, infancy.vii. JOAN RAMSAY, b. 1901, Howe, Choctaw Nation, OK; d. Abt. 1901, infancy.

viii. JOHN GATES RAMSAY, b. Jun 13, 1902, Howe, Choctaw Nation, OK; d. Feb 26, 1991, Berea, KY; m.GERTRUDE ELEANOR MARTIN, Private; b. Private.

More About JOHN RAMSAY and GERTRUDE MARTIN:Private-Begin: Private

ix. JESSIE RAMSAY, b. Sep 1, 1903, DuQuoin, IL; d. Bef. 2001, Easton, PA; m. CHARLES M. SANDWICK; d.Unknown.

More About JESSIE RAMSAY:Residence: 1996, Allentown, PA

x. HENRY WEAVER RAMSAY, b. Nov 6, 1905, Knoxville, TN; d. Bef. 1996, Allentown, PA; m. CLAUDIASHELLY, Private; b. Private.

More About HENRY WEAVER RAMSAY:Residence: 1970, Easton, PA

More About HENRY RAMSAY and CLAUDIA SHELLY:Private-Begin: Private

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xi. MARY ALICE RAMSAY, b. Apr 26, 1907, Pennington Gap, Lee, VA; d. Sep 15, 1977; m. RODNEYWESTBROOK; d. Unknown.

More About MARY ALICE RAMSAY:Residence: 1996, Bethlehem, PA

58. xii. HELEN MAY RAMSAY, b. Dec 23, 1908, Knoxville, TN; d. Sep 25, 1996, Sheffield, AL.xiii. SARAH JANE RAMSAY, b. May 7, 1910, Knoxville, TN; d. Bef. 1996; m. WILBUR KEIPER, Private; b.

Private.

More About SARAH JANE RAMSAY:Residence: 1970, Easton, PA

More About WILBUR KEIPER and SARAH RAMSAY:Private-Begin: Private

xiv. WILHELMINA RAMSAY, b. Jan 21, 1913, Coral, Indiana Co, PA; d. Bef. 2001; m. THOMAS RICHARDS,Private; b. Private.

More About WILHELMINA RAMSAY:Alternate spelling: BillieResidence: 1996, Allentown, PA

More About THOMAS RICHARDS and WILHELMINA RAMSAY:Private-Begin: Private

xv. LOUISE MAY RAMSAY, b. Dec 19, 1915, Frostburg, MD; d. Bef. 2001; m. ROBERT HOFSTETTER, Private;b. Private.

More About LOUISE MAY RAMSAY:Residence: 1970, Los Angeles, CA

More About ROBERT HOFSTETTER and LOUISE RAMSAY:Private-Begin: Private

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41. SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY (MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Mar 16, 1873 in Shafton,Westmoreland Co, PA225, and died Apr 4, 1946 in Brownsville, Fayette Co, PA226. She married JAMES HAYEATON Aug 6, 1891 in PA227. He was born Nov 1868 in Scotland228, and died Jun 4, 1902 in Grindstone,Fayette Co, PA229.

Notes for SADIE MARIA RAMSAY:1910 census:Sadie M EatonAge: 37 State: PAColor: W Enumeration District: 0253Birth Place: Pennsylvania Visit: 0046County: WashingtonRelation: Head of HouseholdOther Residents: Relation Name Age Birth PlaceSon James R 17 PennsylvaniaDaughter Sadie A 16 PennsylvaniaSon Morris R 09 PennsylvaniaNR Inimanuel Fidoe 42 EnglandNR Thomas 17 Pennsylvania3 non-relatives

More About SADIE MARIA RAMSAY:Burial: Unknown, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1900, Franklin Township, Fayette Co, PAMisc: had only three childrenNamesake: of her motherOccupation: Bet. 1910 - 1920, owned a boarding house in W. Brownsville

Notes for JAMES HAY EATON:

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James lived a very short life. He and his large family emigrated from Scotland. This was their household in1880 while James was still a teenager:James EATON Self M Male W 36 SCOT Coal Miner SCOT SCOTCristenia EATON Wife M Female W 35 SCOT Keeping H. SCOT SCOTMargaret EATON Dau S Female W 17 SCOT At Home SCOT SCOTJames EATON Son S Male W 14 SCOT At Home SCOT SCOTRubenia EATON Dau S Female W 12 SCOT At Home SCOT SCOTMary EATON Dau S Female W 10 SCOT At Home SCOT SCOTUphema EATON Dau S Female W 6 PA At Home SCOT SCOTMarin EATON Dau S Female W 1 SCOT SCOT SCOTJohn EATON Brother M Male W 38 SCOT Coal Miner SCOT SCOTDavid BUCANNON Other S Male W 23 SCOT Coal Miner SCOT SCOTSource Information:Census Place Clifton, Allegheny, PennsylvaniaFamily History Library Film 1255090

More About JAMES HAY EATON:Burial: Unknown, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PAImmigrated: 1872, from ScotlandMisc: son of James & Christina EatonOccupation: foreman, coal miner

More About JAMES EATON and SADIE RAMSAY:Marriage: Aug 6, 1891, PA230

Children of SADIE RAMSAY and JAMES EATON are:59. i. JAMES R.6 EATON, b. Sep 1892, PA; d. Unknown.60. ii. SADIE RAMSAY EATON, b. Feb 1894, PA; d. 1968.61. iii. MORRIS RAMSAY EATON, b. Apr 1900, Fayette Co, PA; d. Dec 4, 1960.

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42. ELIZABETH SHARPE5 RAMSAY (MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Aug 14, 1874 in Shafton,Westmoreland Co, PA231, and died Feb 5, 1904 in Fairmont, W. VA232. She married EMMOR MITCHELLSAUNDERS Dec 25, 1894 in Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA233. He was born Jun 1870 in PA234, and diedAft. 1830 in Fairmont, WV.

Notes for ELIZABETH SHARPE RAMSAY:The unknown child is based on the 1900 US Census which indicated that Sharpe had given birth to two otherchildren who were no longer living.

John Ramsay Clarke states that Sharpe met her husband, then a National Guardsman, when the Guard was calledto restore order during the miner's strike at Morewood. Another relative, Kitty Saunders, states that Emmor wasstationed with Co. K of the Morewood Mines in Waynesburg, PA.

After Sharpe died, Emmor, or Junior as he was called, was taken to live with his grandmother Ramsay in Mt.Pleasant for a time while his brother Morris lived with his father.

More About ELIZABETH SHARPE RAMSAY:Burial: 1904, Connellsville, Fayette Co, PACensus: 1900, Connellsville Borough, Fayette Co, PAMedical Information: was pregnant when she diedNamesake: of grandmother Elizabeth SharpResidence: 1900, Connellsville Borough, Fayette Co, PA; lived on E. Main St.

Notes for EMMOR MITCHELL SAUNDERS:According to the 1930 census, Emmor was living with his second wife, Frances, in Fairmont, WV. The man wholisted his occupation in 1900 as a "capitalist" was by 1930 an accountant, and must have been somewhatsuccessful because the couple retained the services of a servant. Living with the couple, who by the censusaccount married six years after Sharpe Ramsay Saunders died, was Emmor's son of the same name, his youngwife and first two children.

More About EMMOR MITCHELL SAUNDERS:Alternate spelling: Emmer; Saunder

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Census: 1900, Connellsville Borough, Fayette Co, PAOccupation: capitalistResidence: Bet. 1920 - 1930, Fairmont, WV

More About EMMOR SAUNDERS and ELIZABETH RAMSAY:Marriage: Dec 25, 1894, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA235

Children of ELIZABETH RAMSAY and EMMOR SAUNDERS are:62. i. MORRIS RAMSAY6 SAUNDERS, b. Oct 11, 1895, PA; d. Nov 28, 1959, Fairmont, WV.

ii. IMOGENE SAUNDERS, b. Bet. 1896 - 1899, PA; d. Bef. 1900, PA.iii. CHILD SAUNDERS, b. Bet. 1896 - 1899, PA; d. Bef. 1900, PA.

63. iv. EMMOR MITCHELL JR. SAUNDERS, b. Jul 31, 1901, PA; d. Mar 1968, Fairmont, Marion, WV.

43. HANNAH GREER5 RAMSAY (MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Jun 17, 1876 in Shafton,Westmoreland Co, PA236, and died Aug 20, 1968 in Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA. She married JOHNLARIMER SHIELDS Aug 9, 1900 in PA237, son of MATTHEW SHIELDS and SARAH LARIMER. He was born Jun 6,1857 in near Salem, Westmoreland Co, PA238, and died Nov 7, 1925 in Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co,PA239.

More About HANNAH GREER RAMSAY:Census: Bet. 1910 - 1930, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PAMisc: 1930, living with sister Alice and Matthew, James and DorothyNamesake: of the third wife of George Greer, her mother's adoptive fatherProperty: 1930, house worth $10,000 per census

Notes for JOHN LARIMER SHIELDS:Prior to his marriage, he and his family lived at 240 Walnut Street, Mount Pleasant, 2 doors down from SadieRamsay, his future mother-in-law.

More About JOHN LARIMER SHIELDS:Burial: 1925, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PAEducation: Princeton

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Occupation: owner & editor, Mount Pleasant Journal240

More About JOHN SHIELDS and HANNAH RAMSAY:Marriage: Aug 9, 1900, PA241

Children of HANNAH RAMSAY and JOHN SHIELDS are:i. MATTHEW6 SHIELDS, b. 1902, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA242; d. Bef. 1968.

ii. JAMES R. SHIELDS, b. Aug 27, 1904, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA242; d. Nov 1975243.

More About JAMES R. SHIELDS:Occupation: 1930, accountant, grocery store

64. iii. OLIVER S. SHIELDS, b. May 21, 1906, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Oct 1981, PA.iv. DOROTHY SHIELDS, b. Private.

44. GEORGE MORRIS5 RAMSAY (MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Mar 25, 1878 in Shafton,Westmoreland Co, PA244, and died Oct 3, 1934 in Bradenville, Westmoreland Co, PA245. He married MAYMEPEGG Sep 23, 1899 in PA246. She was born 1873 in PA, and died Dec 1941 in Blairsville, PA247.

Notes for GEORGE MORRIS RAMSAY:In 1905, George was a resident of Oliver, PA and was employed by a coke company there

1910 census:George Ramsey Age: 32 State: PA Color: W Enumeration District: 0236 Birth Place: Pennsylvania Visit: 0283 County: Washington Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Relation Name Age Birth PlaceWife Mamie 29 PennsylvaniaDaughter Agnes 06 Pennsylvania

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Daughter Sadie 03 PennsylvaniaDaughter Georgia 01 Pennsylvania

index for 1920 census incorrectly lists him as William

More About GEORGE MORRIS RAMSAY:Burial: 1934, Derry Twp, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: Bet. 1920 - 1930, Derry Twp, Westmoreland Co, PANamesake: of his grandfather George Greer and his father Morris

More About MAYME PEGG:Burial: 1941, Derry, PA

More About GEORGE RAMSAY and MAYME PEGG:Marriage: Sep 23, 1899, PA248

Children of GEORGE RAMSAY and MAYME PEGG are:i. AGNES6 RAMSAY, b. 1904, PA249; d. Unknown.

ii. SADIE RAMSAY, b. Private.iii. GEORGIA RAMSAY, b. Private.iv. DOROTHY RAMSAY, b. Private.

45. MARY CHRISTINA5 RAMSAY (MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Apr 13, 1881 inLoyalhanna, Westmoreland Co, PA250, and died May 8, 1968 in Hempfield Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA251. Shemarried HARRY MONROE STAHL Nov 14, 1900 in PA252. He was born 1879 in Mount Pleasant, WestmorelandCo, PA253, and died Aft. 1930254.

Notes for MARY CHRISTINA RAMSAY:Harry M StahlAge: 30 State: OHColor: W Enumeration District: 0206

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Birth Place: PENN Visit: 0203County: Stark, AllianceRelation: Head of HouseholdOther Residents: Relation Name Color Age Birth PlaceWife Emma C 29 PENNDaughter Sadie M 03 PENN

Not withstanding the error on the wife's name, Emma C. instead of Mary C., this can only be Mary Christine. Onthe actual census, the wife states that her father was born in Scotland and that she has been married for 9 years.

More About MARY CHRISTINA RAMSAY:Alternate spelling: ChristineBurial: 1968, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: Apr 20, 1910, Alliance, Stark Co, OHNamesake: of her grandfather's sister, ChristineResidence: Jun 16, 1900, living with the Eatons in Franklin Township, Fayette Co, PA255

More About HARRY MONROE STAHL:Census: 1930, Detroit, Michigan; listed as divorced, working as a machinistMisc: son of Amos W. and Sarah Stahl

More About HARRY STAHL and MARY RAMSAY:Marriage: Nov 14, 1900, PA256

Child of MARY RAMSAY and HARRY STAHL is:i. SARAH M.6 STAHL, b. 1907257; d. Bef. 1968.

More About SARAH M. STAHL:Alternate spelling: Sadie

46. ROBERT ALEXANDER5 RAMSAY (MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Sep 16, 1884 in Trotter,Fayette Co, PA258, and died Jun 29, 1970 in Ligonier, Westmoreland Co, PA259. He married NINA MARIAH

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ALLSHOUSE Jun 8, 1910 in Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA260, daughter of JOSIAH ALLSHOUSE andCATHARINE BECK. She was born Feb 20, 1888 in Hempfield Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA261, and died Jul 24,1967 in Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA262.

Notes for ROBERT ALEXANDER RAMSAY:I knew him as Papap, the most influential person in my life. He and Nana raised me as their own child. Papaphad the most wonderful sense of humor, sometimes to the point of being devilish. He once handed me abiography of Mary Queen of Scots and told me to read it and learn from it. Mary and I shared a headstrongtemper, he said, and he didn't want me to meet a similar fate. Robert loved the bagpipes, had a jacket made fromthe Ramsay plaid, and was intrigued by Scot lore.

Robert was a talented draftsman, surveyor and civil engineer who became the City Engineer for Greensburg,Westmoreland Co, PA. He embodied the "Labora" part of the Ramsay motto, working well into his old age.Even in his seventies, Robert often walked from his beloved home at 443 West Pittsburgh Street where he hadlived all his married life, down one long hill and up another, to the City Hall which he could never quite let go ofafter his retirement. Robert's father Morris must have been a man of great intuition because Morris willed theneight year old Robert "my library and all my surveying instruments and my gold watch and my book cases andwriting desk," all of which he used his entire life.

The 1920 US census shows that Robert's family had retained the services of a live-in Bohemian servant girl. Irecall the house had bay windows, five bedrooms, a separate dining room and parlor and a cavernous attic filledwith memorabilia. Off the back porch was a room once used to bake bread. The garage had a quaint door thatslid on rollers to admit the entrance of a Packard or Dodge. The backyard was filled with pine, buckeye and plumtrees and there was a black granite marker that proclaimed "Ramsay."

After the death of his wife, Robert's son Morris sold his home to a pharmacist who promptly tore down theVictorian treasure and erected an unsightly pharmacy. I watched the day the wrecking ball demolished the home,the timbers of which had been so strong that an attic fire merely singed them. Morris had put his father into anursing home in Ligonier where Robert's constant request was to go home. His health deteriorated and he died at4:45 P.M. on Jun 29, 1970 at Maginnis Hospital in Ligonier. The final entry in the Ramsay family bibleregarding Robert was that he was buried at 1:30 P.M. at the age of 85 years, 9 months, 13 days.

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More About ROBERT ALEXANDER RAMSAY:Burial: Jul 2, 1970, Brush Creek Cemetery, N. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PACause of Death: pneumoniaCensus: 1900; 1910; 1920; 1930Member: Shriners, President of Caravan 8Misc: 1932, elected county surveyorOccupation: civil engineer; city engineer for GreensburgReligion: PresbyterianResidence: Aft. 1910, 443 W. Pittsburgh St., Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA

Notes for NINA MARIAH ALLSHOUSE:In Nina Allshouse is the convergence of two German families, the Allshouses and the Kunkles, who emigratedfrom Germany and landed within one day of each other in Philadelphia, PA nearly 140 years before Nina's birth.Nina's third great-grandfather Henry Allshouse, who sailed on the Judith, arrived in PA on Sep 15, 1748. A daylater, Nina's third great-grandfather Johannes Kunkle, who sailed on the Patience, arrived at the same port on Sep16, 1748.

"Nana" had the blue eyes and facial features of her German ancestors. She told me that during an illness as agirl, she lost her hair and when it grew back, she resolved not to cut it. Until she died, she kept her hair long andwould dutifully roll it up each day as would befit a matronly woman. She was a genteel woman but scornedmodern inventions. In the early sixties, she still used a wringer washer, hung her sheets out to dry--even in thewinter--and insisted on washing the second story windows. Why she had household help I don't know becauseshe insisted on doing everything herself.

Nina told stories of the great flu epidemic of 1917-18 when family members would knock on the walls by theirbeds to signal to one another that they were still alive. She also had marvelous sayings for every occasion suchas: "If you don't listen, you'll have to feel; You made your bed, now lie in it; Murder will out." Every Sundayafter church there was a large meal in the dining room followed by a visit to some relative or a drive in thecountry. Nina had taken china-painting classes at nearby Seton Hill College and her china cupboard was filledwith delicate teacups and other intricate pieces.

Nina and Robert were married when Nina was 22 years old. They visited Washington, D.C. on their honeymoon.

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The couple would later have five children and 14 grandchildren, one of which was myself. Nana and Papapraised me from infancy.

Nana, who had been born at 12 A.M. in 1888, died at 12:01 A.M. in 1967 in Westmoreland County Hospital,less than half a block from the home in which she had lived her entire life. After an 11 A.M. service at theKepple Funeral Home, she was buried at the historic Brush Creek Cemetery where her grandfather, SamuelAllshouse, had been one of the originators of the Brush Creek Church and an early director of the cemetery. Shewas 79 years, 5 months, 4 days old.

More About NINA MARIAH ALLSHOUSE:Baptism: Aug 12, 1888, N. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA263

Burial: Jul 26, 1967, Brush Creek Cemetery, N. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PACause of Death: strokeMisc: baptized by Rev. G.S. SeamanOccupation: homemakerReligion: Lutheran, then PresbyterianResidence: Bet. 1900 - 1967, 443 W. Pittsburgh St., Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA

More About ROBERT RAMSAY and NINA ALLSHOUSE:Marriage: Jun 8, 1910, Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA264

Marriage note: married at 7:30 p.m. at the bride's parents' home by Rev. Wm. J. Miller265

Children of ROBERT RAMSAY and NINA ALLSHOUSE are:65. i. ROBERT ALEXANDER6 RAMSAY, b. Jan 1, 1912, Byrnedale, Elk Co, PA; d. Nov 11, 1967, Pittsburgh,

Allegheny Co, PA.66. ii. DONALD ALLAN RAMSAY, b. Feb 10, 1915, PA; d. Jun 16, 1995, Nashville, Davidson, TN.67. iii. CATHARINE ELIZABETH RAMSAY, b. Jul 14, 1918, Greensburg, Westmoreland CO, PA; d. Aug 8, 1992,

Ephrata, Lancaster, PA.68. iv. MORRIS RAMSAY, b. Private.69. v. MARJORIE ANN RAMSAY, b. Private.

47. ADELAIDE FRICK5 RAMSAY (MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Feb 3, 1892 in Morewood,

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Westmoreland Co, PA266, and died Jul 14, 1982 in Jefferson Boro, PA267. She married JOSEPH PORTER CLARKEMar 26, 1921 in PA268, son of JOSEPH CLARKE and ADELAIDE HAGOOD. He was born Feb 16, 1889 inSummerville, SC, and died Nov 24, 1955 in Pittsburgh, PA269.

More About ADELAIDE FRICK RAMSAY:Burial: 1982, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PANamesake: of Adelaide, wife of Henry Clay Frick

More About JOSEPH PORTER CLARKE:Burial: 1955, Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: 1930, Mt. Lebanon, Allegheny Co, PAOccupation: 1930, engineer

More About JOSEPH CLARKE and ADELAIDE RAMSAY:Marriage: Mar 26, 1921, PA270

Child of ADELAIDE RAMSAY and JOSEPH CLARKE is:i. JOHN RAMSAY6 CLARKE, b. Private.

48. ELIZABETH M.5 RAMSAY (GEORGE SHARPE4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Jul 1883 in PA271, anddied 1968 in PA. She married WASHINGTON R. CRAIG Bef. 1909 in PA. He was born Sep 1872 in PA, and died1931 in PA.

More About ELIZABETH M. RAMSAY:Burial: 1968, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PA

More About WASHINGTON R. CRAIG:Burial: 1931, Union Cemetery, Irwin, Westmoreland Co, PACensus: Bet. 1910 - 1920, St. Mary's Elk Co, PAOccupation: 1920, General Manager, Shawmut Coal Co.

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More About WASHINGTON CRAIG and ELIZABETH RAMSAY:Marriage: Bef. 1909, PA

Child of ELIZABETH RAMSAY and WASHINGTON CRAIG is:i. JEAN6 CRAIG, b. Private.

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49. JUNE6 RAMSAY (WILLIAM5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born 1894 in PA272, and diedUnknown. She married UNKNOWN WATKINS Abt. 1915. He died Unknown.

Notes for JUNE RAMSAY:I cannot find June Watkins on the 1930 census in PA. She may have died, remarried or moved to another state.

More About UNKNOWN WATKINS and JUNE RAMSAY:Divorce: Bef. 1920Marriage: Abt. 1915

Child of JUNE RAMSAY and UNKNOWN WATKINS is:i. WILLIAM R.7 WATKINS, b. Private.

50. HELEN MARGARET6 RAMSAY (ROBERT5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born May 22, 1895 inMt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA272, and died Mar 10, 1968 in Mt. Lebanon, PA. She married ROBERTANDREWS CUNNINGHAM Sep 2, 1920 in United, PA. He was born Oct 3, 1894 in Mt. Pleasant, WestmorelandCo, PA, and died Aug 1, 1942 in Pittsburgh, PA.

More About HELEN MARGARET RAMSAY:Burial: 1968, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA

More About ROBERT ANDREWS CUNNINGHAM:Burial: 1942, Mt. Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA

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More About ROBERT CUNNINGHAM and HELEN RAMSAY:Marriage: Sep 2, 1920, United, PA

Children of HELEN RAMSAY and ROBERT CUNNINGHAM are:i. JEAN7 CUNNINGHAM, b. Private.

70. ii. HELEN LOUISE CUNNINGHAM, b. Jun 20, 1935, Pittsburgh, PA; d. Feb 7, 1999, Pittsburgh, PA.

51. JEAN ERSKINE6 RAMSAY (ROBERT5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Oct 19, 1898 in Mt.Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA272, and died Dec 23, 1983 in Birmingham, AL. She married HUSTON LINCOLNLA CLAIR Jan 3, 1924 in United, PA. He was born Feb 12, 1898 in Uniontown, PA, and died Aug 21, 1974 inBirmingham, AL.

More About JEAN ERSKINE RAMSAY:Burial: Unknown, Birmingham, ALResidence: Birmingham, AL, most of her married life

More About HUSTON LINCOLN LA CLAIR:Burial: Unknown, Birmingham, AL

More About HUSTON LA CLAIR and JEAN RAMSAY:Marriage: Jan 3, 1924, United, PA

Children of JEAN RAMSAY and HUSTON LA CLAIR are:i. HUSTON LINCOLN7 LA CLAIR, JR., b. Private.

71. ii. LOUISE RAMSAY LA CLAIR, b. Private.

52. ERSKINE CULPEPPER6 RAMSAY (ROBERT5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born May 19, 1906in PA273, and died Sep 1975 in Miami, Miami-Dade, FL273. He married ROSE SMITH Private. She was bornPrivate.

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Notes for ERSKINE CULPEPPER RAMSAY:may be:ERSKINE RAMSAYResidence: 33134 Miami, Miami-dade, FLBorn 19 May 1906DiedSep 1975Issued:PA (Before 1951)

More About ERSKINE CULPEPPER RAMSAY:Census: 1920, child, living with parents in Westmoreland Co, PAMisc: see notesResidence: lived in Florida most of his married life

More About ERSKINE RAMSAY and ROSE SMITH:Private-Begin: Private

Children of ERSKINE RAMSAY and ROSE SMITH are:i. ROBERT7 RAMSAY, b. Private.

ii. PATRICIA RAMSAY, b. Private.

53. LOIS ANN6 RAMSAY (ROBERT5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She marriedJOHN JOSEPH HECK Private. He was born Feb 20, 1922 in Pittsburgh, PA, and died Oct 26, 2000 in San Ramon,CA.

More About JOHN HECK and LOIS RAMSAY:Private-Begin: Private

Children of LOIS RAMSAY and JOHN HECK are:72. i. SUSAN LEIGH7 HECK, b. Private.73. ii. SALLY ANN HECK, b. Private.74. iii. ROBERT PAUL HECK, b. Private.

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54. ANDREW CARNEGIE6 RAMSAY (ANDREW CARNEGIE5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was bornPrivate. He married JANE DUNCAN Private. She was born Private.

More About ANDREW RAMSAY and JANE DUNCAN:Private-Begin: Private

Children of ANDREW RAMSAY and JANE DUNCAN are:i. HAL7 RAMSAY, b. Private.

ii. JANE RAMSAY, b. Private.iii. ANDREW C. RAMSAY, b. Private.

55. ROBERT MCLESTER6 RAMSAY (ANDREW CARNEGIE5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was bornPrivate. He married RHODA HALE Private. She was born 1924, and died Sep 2002.

More About ROBERT RAMSAY and RHODA HALE:Private-Begin: Private

Children of ROBERT RAMSAY and RHODA HALE are:i. ERSKINE7 RAMSAY, b. Private.

ii. ROBERT MCLESTER RAMSAY, b. Private.iii. CHARLES RAMSAY, b. Private.iv. RHODA RAMSAY, b. Private.v. RICHARD GIBSON RAMSAY, b. Private.

56. JANET RAMSAY6 WALTER (HELEN ERSKINE5 RAMSAY, WILLIAM SHARPE4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) wasborn Private. She married THURMAN JAY MISHLER Private. He was born Aug 8, 1912 in OH273, and died Aug1980 in Wooster, Wayne, OH273.

More About THURMAN MISHLER and JANET WALTER:

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Private-Begin: Private

Child of JANET WALTER and THURMAN MISHLER is:75. i. SARA LOUISE7 MISHLER, b. Private.

57. OLIVE6 RAMSAY (WILLIAM5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Nov 18, 1893 in MountPleasant, Westmoreland Co., PA, and died Apr 13, 1970 in Birmingham, AL. She married CHARLES HOWARDMOSES Sep 25, 1913. He was born 1890, and died Apr 14, 1970 in Birmingham, AL.

More About OLIVE RAMSAY:Cause of Death: injuries sustained in a car crashMisc: she and her husband died following a car crashReligion: Presbyterian

More About CHARLES HOWARD MOSES:Cause of Death: injuries sustained in a car crashOccupation: owned certified public accounting firm

More About CHARLES MOSES and OLIVE RAMSAY:Marriage: Sep 25, 1913

Children of OLIVE RAMSAY and CHARLES MOSES are:i. CHARLES HOWARD7 MOSES, JR., b. Private; m. LILLIAN ANNE MCPHERSON, Private; b. Private.

More About CHARLES MOSES and LILLIAN MCPHERSON:Private-Begin: Private

76. ii. OLIVE MOSES, b. 1922; d. Apr 14, 1998, Denver, CO.

58. HELEN MAY6 RAMSAY (WILLIAM5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Dec 23, 1908 inKnoxville, TN, and died Sep 25, 1996 in Sheffield, AL. She married CHARLES EDWIN FRENCH 1929274. He was

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born 1906 in NY274, and died Bef. 1996.

More About HELEN MAY RAMSAY:Burial: Sep 27, 1996, Colbert Memorial GardensCensus: 1930, Bethlehem, Northampton Co, PAOccupation: columnist with the Colbert County Reporter, Sheffield, ALReligion: PresbyterianResidence: 1970, Sheffield, AL

More About CHARLES FRENCH and HELEN RAMSAY:Marriage: 1929274

Children of HELEN RAMSAY and CHARLES FRENCH are:i. MILLIE7 FRENCH, b. Private; m. UNKNOWN MCDONALD, Private; b. Private.

More About UNKNOWN MCDONALD and MILLIE FRENCH:Private-Begin: Private

ii. HELEN FRENCH, b. Private; m. UNKNOWN GARRISON, Private; b. Private.

More About UNKNOWN GARRISON and HELEN FRENCH:Private-Begin: Private

59. JAMES R.6 EATON (SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Sep 1892 inPA275, and died Unknown. He married UNKNOWN SNYDER 1914276. She died Unknown.

Notes for JAMES R. EATON:In 1930, his mother-n-law, Nancy Snyder, age 62, widow, was living with him and his children. He stated he wasmarried but no wife was living there.

More About JAMES R. EATON:Census: 1930, Luzerne, Fayette Co, PA

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Occupation: 1930, laborer, railroad

More About JAMES EATON and UNKNOWN SNYDER:Marriage: 1914276

Children of JAMES EATON and UNKNOWN SNYDER are:i. ELEANOR7 EATON, b. Private.

ii. JACK EATON, b. 1919276; d. 1976; m. DOROTHY UNKNOWN, Private; b. Private.

More About JACK EATON:Alternate spelling: JohnMisc: no children

More About JACK EATON and DOROTHY UNKNOWN:Private-Begin: Private

77. iii. CHARLES STANFORD EATON, b. Private.

60. SADIE RAMSAY6 EATON (SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Feb1894 in PA277, and died 1968. She married ROBERT ARGYLE SPHAR 1919 in PA. He was born 1881 in PA, anddied 1959.

More About SADIE RAMSAY EATON:Alternate spelling: middle name Agnes

More About ROBERT ARGYLE SPHAR:Census: 1930, Centerville, Washington Co, PAOccupation: 1930, doctor

More About ROBERT SPHAR and SADIE EATON:Marriage: 1919, PA

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Children of SADIE EATON and ROBERT SPHAR are:i. ROBERT EATON7 SPHAR, b. Oct 2, 1922, PA278; d. Sep 10, 1984, VA278.

78. ii. ELIZABETH ANN SPHAR, b. Private.iii. HELEN LOUISE SPHAR, b. 1929; d. 1950.

79. iv. WILLIAM ARGYLE SPHAR, b. Private.

61. MORRIS RAMSAY6 EATON (SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Apr1900 in Fayette Co, PA279, and died Dec 4, 1960. He married LILLIAN RUTHERFORD Bef. 1923 in PA. She wasborn 1906 in England280, and died Bet. 1934 - 1935.

More About MORRIS RAMSAY EATON:Census: 1920, living with mother

More About LILLIAN RUTHERFORD:Census: 1930, East Pike Run, Washington Co, PAImmigrated: 1907

More About MORRIS EATON and LILLIAN RUTHERFORD:Marriage: Bef. 1923, PA

Children of MORRIS EATON and LILLIAN RUTHERFORD are:80. i. DOROTHY LOUISE7 EATON, b. Private.81. ii. JOHN ROBERT EATON, b. Aug 26, 1926; d. Jul 10, 1979.82. iii. MORRIS EDWARD EATON, b. Private.

iv. CHARLES HAROLD EATON, b. Dec 30, 1929; d. Sep 2, 1994; m. EDNA KATHRYN, Private; b. Private.

More About CHARLES EATON and EDNA KATHRYN:Private-Begin: Private

83. v. ALICE ISABEL (TWIN) EATON, b. Private.84. vi. ELSIE ILENE (TWIN) EATON, b. Dec 19, 1933; d. Jul 1, 1988.

vii. JAMES EATON, b. Aft. 1933, PA; d. Unknown, infancy.

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62. MORRIS RAMSAY6 SAUNDERS (ELIZABETH SHARPE5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) wasborn Oct 11, 1895 in PA281, and died Nov 28, 1959 in Fairmont, WV. He married (1) UNKNOWN. She diedUnknown. He married (2) ANN YOUNG Private. She was born Private.

Notes for MORRIS RAMSAY SAUNDERS:Morris may have been married three times total. I can't find any record of Morris on the 1920 census under hisname or a similar-sounding name anywhere in the US. He may have been using an alias. I know he was notliving with his father in 1920. I did find him on the 1930 census as indicated.

The date listed for burial may have been the date of death because I have two conflicting sources. At Arlington,Morris' grave is located in Section 18, grave number 1379-A.

More About MORRIS RAMSAY SAUNDERS:Burial: Dec 2, 1959, Arlington National CemeteryCensus: 1930, Akron, OHMilitary service: Cpl., Medical Corps, WWIMisc: my father had a picture of his tombstone and a map of how to get there at Arlington.

More About MORRIS SAUNDERS and ANN YOUNG:Private-Begin: Private

Child of MORRIS SAUNDERS and UNKNOWN is:i. PATRICIA7 SAUNDERS, b. Private.

Children of MORRIS SAUNDERS and ANN YOUNG are:85. ii. RONALD MALCOLM7 SAUNDERS, b. Private.

iii. ROBERT MORRIS SAUNDERS, b. Jan 20, 1931; d. 1934.

63. EMMOR MITCHELL JR.6 SAUNDERS (ELIZABETH SHARPE5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1)was born Jul 31, 1901 in PA282, and died Mar 1968 in Fairmont, Marion, WV282. He married LAURA RUTH

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TAGGART 1926 in WV283. She was born May 27, 1906 in WV284, and died Feb 7, 1996 in Mannington, Marion,WV284.

More About EMMOR MITCHELL JR. SAUNDERS:Census: Bet. 1920 - 1930, Fairmont, WW

Notes for LAURA RUTH TAGGART:Email from Laura's granddaughter Laura J. Little: I guess it must have been pretty interesting when Mother andUncle Gene were born. The babies were born at home, and neither the doctor nor my grandmother knew that shewas expecting twins until after Uncle Gene was born and the doctor said, "There's another one in there!" Whatmade it worse was that when people asked Grandma what she wanted (since she already had a boy and a girl),she'd jokingly say, "Oh, I haven't decided yet, so I think I'll take one of each!" When that's exactly what she got,she had a hard time convincing people that she wasn't joking again.

More About EMMOR SAUNDERS and LAURA TAGGART:Marriage: 1926, WV285

Children of EMMOR SAUNDERS and LAURA TAGGART are:i. EMMOR MITCHELL III7 SAUNDERS, b. Private.

86. ii. RUTH ELIZABETH SAUNDERS, b. Aug 1828, WV; d. Unknown.87. iii. EUGENE RAMSAY (TWIN) SAUNDERS, b. May 30, 1933, WV; d. Sep 15, 1994, Fairmont, W.V.88. iv. ALICE JUNE (TWIN) SAUNDERS, b. Private.

64. OLIVER S.6 SHIELDS (HANNAH GREER5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born May 21,1906 in Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland Co, PA286, and died Oct 1981 in PA287. He married ROSEMARY COOPERPrivate, daughter of J.A. COOPER. She was born Private.

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Child of OLIVER SHIELDS and ROSEMARY COOPER is:i. JAMES7 SHIELDS, b. Private.

65. ROBERT ALEXANDER6 RAMSAY (ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was bornJan 1, 1912 in Byrnedale, Elk Co, PA288, and died Nov 11, 1967 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co, PA289. He marriedMARION JUNE GRAHAM Jun 5, 1935 in Morgantown, WV290, daughter of ARTHUR GRAHAM and GERTRUDEWILKINS. She was born Sep 11, 1914 in Wilkinsburg, Allegheny Co, PA291, and died Jul 4, 1997 in Jeannette,Westmoreland Co, PA292.

Notes for ROBERT ALEXANDER RAMSAY:Birth: My father was born on the birthday of his grandmother, Sadie M. Greer Ramsay. A picture of Robertbeing held by his mother is in the photo section on my website:http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/e/c/Barbara--BeckRamsay/index.html. Robert, like his brothersDonald and Morris, and his father, Robert, became a civil engineer. However, Robert had planned a career in themilitary from which, after nine years, he was persuaded to leave by my mother. It was a choice he alwaysregretted, he told me, and it is no wonder since his military position afforded him power and the chance to travel.Afterwards, his worldwide travels were limited to ham radio transmissions, for which he had a passion.

Military Service: Because of the fire which destroyed countless records of military personnel, I have been unableto find much documentation of where he served other than the following: entered service Jan 13, 1941, ArmySerial Number 0-405-951, Signal Corps; graduated Command & General Staff, Ft. Leavenworth, KS, 1943 [withhigh honors]; returned from latest tour of overseas service August 7, 1945 after spending 18 months there; in anapplication for extended active duty on January 16, 1948, his rank was Lieutenant Colonel while immediatelyprior to processing for relief from active duty, he was a Major; in 1948, the exact designation of unit or office towhich he was last assigned for active duty was Headquarters Second Army.

According to my mother, Daddy joined the Army in 1939. At some point, he was assigned to Ft. Monmouth, NJ.At that post, when Daddy was a captain, Mother saw Betty Grable and Betty Davis, who were entertaining thetroops. There she also met generals Patton, McArthur and Marshall. When Daddy was sent overseas, it was toChina. He was there for two years and was involved in the Salween Campaign, according to mother. A USArmy web site states the initial Salween Campaign lasted from 11 May to 30 June 1944. My aunt Marjorie says

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that Daddy contracted malaria during his service.

In China, Daddy made a lifelong friend of a Chinese Major General, Chien Tai. Among Robert's medals was theSpecial Breast Order of Yun-Hui with an accompanying citation signed by Chiang Kai-shek, then Chiang Chung-Cheng, President of the National Government of the Republic of China, on Dec. 23, 1946. The medal wasawarded for his outstanding achievement while serving in China. Pictures of the medal and my father sittingastride a camel in front of the Sphinx in Egypt are also on my website.

My parents had 15 grandchildren.

His death: My sister Gretchen and I cared for my father while he was dying of cancer. Robert died at 8:36 P.M.on Veteran's Day, which he would have felt was appropriate. He died at the VA Hospital on University Drive,Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co, PA. Funeral services were held at 11 A.M. on Nov. 15, 1967 at the Robert J. KeppleFuneral Home. A military funeral was held at St. Clair Cemetery with an honor guard. He was 55 years, 10months old, and was buried in the war veteran's section of the cemetery.

More About ROBERT ALEXANDER RAMSAY:Burial: Nov 15, 1967, St. Clair Cemetery, Hempfield Twp, PACause of Death: longstanding carcinoma of prostate with diffuse metastasesCensus: Bet. 1920 - 1930, Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PADischarged: Apr 19, 1950, from the Army of the United States293

Education: Greensburg High School, 1929; Command & General Staff, Ft. Leavenworth, KS, 1943Military service: Bet. 1939 - 1950, WWII: Lt. Col.Occupation: civil mining and radio engineerResidence: 1967, 559 Ohio Street, Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA

More About MARION JUNE GRAHAM:Burial: Jul 7, 1997, Brush Creek Cemetery, N. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PACause of Death: cardiovascular collapse due to septic shockCensus: 1930, Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA; 113 Monahan Street

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More About ROBERT RAMSAY and MARION GRAHAM:Marriage: Jun 5, 1935, Morgantown, WV294

Marriage note: married by Alfred Lee Klau, University Pastor

Children of ROBERT RAMSAY and MARION GRAHAM are:89. i. JUNE7 RAMSAY, b. Private.90. ii. GRETCHEN RAMSAY, b. Nov 15, 1938, Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA; d. Dec 22, 2000, Greensburg,

Westmoreland Co, PA.91. iii. BARBARA BECK-RAMSAY, b. Private.92. iv. DEBORAH DEANNE RAMSAY, b. Private.

66. DONALD ALLAN6 RAMSAY (ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Feb 10,1915 in PA295, and died Jun 16, 1995 in Nashville, Davidson, TN295. He married (1) DOROTHY E. BERRY Bef.1937 in PA, daughter of GEORGE BERRY and HENRIETTA UNKNOWN. She was born 1915 in PA, and died Jan28, 2003 in PA. He married (2) DOROTHY DOWNING Private, daughter of CHALMER DOWNING and GRACEUNKNOWN. She was born Private.

More About DONALD ALLAN RAMSAY:Burial: Jun 1995, Harpath Hills Memory Gardens, outside Nashville, TN

More About DOROTHY E. BERRY:Census: 1930, Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA; O'Hara Street

More About DONALD RAMSAY and DOROTHY BERRY:Marriage: Bef. 1937, PA

More About DONALD RAMSAY and DOROTHY DOWNING:Private-Begin: Private

Child of DONALD RAMSAY and DOROTHY BERRY is:93. i. DONALD ALLAN RAMSAY7 HOLLOWAY, b. Private.

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Children of DONALD RAMSAY and DOROTHY DOWNING are:94. ii. BETH ANNE7 RAMSAY, b. Private.

iii. DONALD ALLAN RAMSAY, b. Sep 4, 1948; d. Feb 9, 1969, Nashville, TN.

More About DONALD ALLAN RAMSAY:Burial: Feb 12, 1969, Harpath Cemetery, Nashville, TNCause of Death: injuries sustained in a car crashMisc: died at age 20 years, 5 months, 15 days

67. CATHARINE ELIZABETH6 RAMSAY (ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was bornJul 14, 1918 in Greensburg, Westmoreland CO, PA295, and died Aug 8, 1992 in Ephrata, Lancaster, PA. Shemarried DAVID KAYE GOODLIN Abt. 1940 in PA, son of UNKNOWN GOODLIN and LOUISE GEORGE. He was bornJan 21, 1917 in PA295, and died Dec 19, 1991 in PA.

More About CATHARINE ELIZABETH RAMSAY:Burial: Aug 1992, Longnecker's Brethren Cemetery, Warwick Twp, PAEducation: Greensburg High School; attended collegeOccupation: homemaker

More About DAVID GOODLIN and CATHARINE RAMSAY:Marriage: Abt. 1940, PA

Children of CATHARINE RAMSAY and DAVID GOODLIN are:95. i. JUDITH ANN7 GOODLIN, b. Private.96. ii. CAROL LEE GOODLIN, b. Private.97. iii. DAVID RAMSAY GOODLIN, b. Private.

68. MORRIS6 RAMSAY (ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. Hemarried CHARLOTTE DASHIELD Private. She was born Private.

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More About MORRIS RAMSAY and CHARLOTTE DASHIELD:Private-Begin: Private

Children of MORRIS RAMSAY and CHARLOTTE DASHIELD are:i. DOUGLAS HAMILTON7 RAMSAY, b. Private.

98. ii. MARK DASHIELD RAMSAY, b. Private.

69. MARJORIE ANN6 RAMSAY (ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private.She married (1) ROBERT MILLER CARSON Private. He was born Private. She married (2) WESLEY LAINGPrivate. He died Apr 1995.

More About ROBERT CARSON and MARJORIE RAMSAY:Private-Begin: Private

More About WESLEY LAING:Occupation: college history professor

More About WESLEY LAING and MARJORIE RAMSAY:Private-Begin: Private

Children of MARJORIE RAMSAY and ROBERT CARSON are:99. i. ROBERT MILLER7 CARSON III, b. Private.100. ii. LAURIE ANN CARSON, b. Private.

Generation No. 7

70. HELEN LOUISE7 CUNNINGHAM (HELEN MARGARET6 RAMSAY, ROBERT5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2,WILLIAM1) was born Jun 20, 1935 in Pittsburgh, PA, and died Feb 7, 1999 in Pittsburgh, PA. She married (1)DONALD GARLAND LONG Private. He was born Private. She married (2) THOMAS JOEL PARKER Private. Hewas born Private.

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More About HELEN LOUISE CUNNINGHAM:Cremation: 1999, ashes scattered at the beach in Corolla, N.C.Misc: had 3 sons, 3 grandchildren

More About DONALD LONG and HELEN CUNNINGHAM:Private-Begin: Private

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Children of HELEN CUNNINGHAM and DONALD LONG are:i. DONALD GARLAND8 LONG, JR., b. Private.

101. ii. ROBERT DALE LONG, b. Private.102. iii. NORMAN DANIEL LONG, b. Private.

71. LOUISE RAMSAY7 LA CLAIR (JEAN ERSKINE6 RAMSAY, ROBERT5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) wasborn Private. She married JOSEPH MADDEN JR. Private. He was born Private.

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Children of LOUISE LA CLAIR and JOSEPH JR. are:103. i. JOSEPH8 MADDEN III, b. Private.

ii. JEAN LA CLAIR MADDEN, b. Private.

72. SUSAN LEIGH7 HECK (LOIS ANN6 RAMSAY, ROBERT5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was bornPrivate. She married (1) THOMAS HIBLER Private. He died Apr 14, 1992 in Palos Verdes. CA. She married (2)DONALD ANDERSON Private. He was born Private.

More About THOMAS HIBLER and SUSAN HECK:Private-Begin: Private

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More About DONALD ANDERSON and SUSAN HECK:Private-Begin: Private

Children of SUSAN HECK and THOMAS HIBLER are:i. ASHLEY BRETT8 HIBLER, b. Private.

ii. AMY ELIZABETH HIBLER, b. Private.iii. KATHERINE ANN HIBLER, b. Private.

73. SALLY ANN7 HECK (LOIS ANN6 RAMSAY, ROBERT5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was bornPrivate. She married JAMES WINTERS Private. He was born Private.

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Children of SALLY HECK and JAMES WINTERS are:i. ERIN ELIZABETH8 WINTERS, b. Private.

ii. SHAUN WALTER WINTERS, b. Private.

74. ROBERT PAUL7 HECK (LOIS ANN6 RAMSAY, ROBERT5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was bornPrivate. He married LYNNE JABBUSCH Private. She was born Private.

More About ROBERT HECK and LYNNE JABBUSCH:Private-Begin: Private

Child of ROBERT HECK and LYNNE JABBUSCH is:i. ROBERT THOMAS8 HECK, b. Private.

75. SARA LOUISE7 MISHLER (JANET RAMSAY6 WALTER, HELEN ERSKINE5 RAMSAY, WILLIAM SHARPE4, WILLIAM3,ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married JERRY HOLDERFIELD Private. He was born Private.

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More About JERRY HOLDERFIELD and SARA MISHLER:Private-Begin: Private

Children of SARA MISHLER and JERRY HOLDERFIELD are:i. BILL8 HOLDERFIELD, b. Private.

ii. JASON HOLDERFIELD, b. Private.

76. OLIVE7 MOSES (OLIVE6 RAMSAY, WILLIAM5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born 1922, anddied Apr 14, 1998 in Denver, CO. She married JOSEPH JORDAN SWENSON Sep 1936 in Birmingham, AL. Hedied Bef. 1998.

Notes for OLIVE MOSES:Olive was the secretary of the first graduating class of Erskine Ramsay Technical High School, Birmingham, AL,which was named for her first cousin, twice removed, the major funder of the facility. She also attendedMontevallo College and Birmingham-Southern College where she was a member of Phi Beta Phi sorority.

More About OLIVE MOSES:Religion: Presbyterian

More About JOSEPH SWENSON and OLIVE MOSES:Marriage: Sep 1936, Birmingham, AL

Children of OLIVE MOSES and JOSEPH SWENSON are:i. BETTY LYNN8 SWENSON, b. Private; m. DWAYNE SARGENT, Private; b. Private.

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ii. JOSEPH JORDAN SWENSON III, b. Private; m. EILEEN UNKNOWN, Private; b. Private.

More About JOSEPH SWENSON and EILEEN UNKNOWN:

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iii. MARY ANN SWENSON, b. Private; m. ROBERT FORMAN, Private; b. Private.

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77. CHARLES STANFORD7 EATON (JAMES R.6, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1)was born Private. He married BETTY UNKNOWN Private. She was born Private.

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Child of CHARLES EATON and BETTY UNKNOWN is:i. RONALD8 EATON, b. Private.

78. ELIZABETH ANN7 SPHAR (SADIE RAMSAY6 EATON, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2,WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married GERALD W. SQUIRES Private. He was born Private.

More About GERALD SQUIRES and ELIZABETH SPHAR:Private-Begin: Private

Children of ELIZABETH SPHAR and GERALD SQUIRES are:104. i. JANET LYNN8 SQUIRES, b. Private.105. ii. ROBERT ROY SQUIRES, b. Private.

iii. LEIGH ANNE SQUIRES, b. Private.

79. WILLIAM ARGYLE7 SPHAR (SADIE RAMSAY6 EATON, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2,WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married NANCY HOAGLAND Private. She was born Private.

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Children of WILLIAM SPHAR and NANCY HOAGLAND are:106. i. SANDRA8 SPHAR, b. Private.

ii. KAREN SPHAR, b. Private.

80. DOROTHY LOUISE7 EATON (MORRIS RAMSAY6, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2,WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married WILLIAM HOWARD QUAIL Private. He was born Aug 8, 1922 in PA,and died Feb 20, 2002 in Uniontown, Fayette, PA295.

More About WILLIAM QUAIL and DOROTHY EATON:Private-Begin: Private

Children of DOROTHY EATON and WILLIAM QUAIL are:i. VICKI LEE8 QUAIL, b. Dec 4, 1944; d. Sep 15, 1995, Denbo, Washington, PA295.

ii. SUSAN LOUISE QUAIL, b. Private; m. RICHARD PAUL RESZLER, Private; b. Private.

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107. iii. KATHY QUAIL, b. Private.iv. MARY BETH QUAIL, b. Private; m. ROBERT GLEN MILLER, Private; b. Private.

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v. WILLIAM TODD QUAIL, b. Nov 16, 1959; d. May 31, 1995.

81. JOHN ROBERT7 EATON (MORRIS RAMSAY6, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1)was born Aug 26, 1926, and died Jul 10, 1979. He married MILDRED MARIE PETERS Private. She was bornPrivate.

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More About JOHN EATON and MILDRED PETERS:Private-Begin: Private

Children of JOHN EATON and MILDRED PETERS are:108. i. GARY CHARLES8 EATON, b. Private.109. ii. LORI ANN EATON, b. Private.

iii. RANDY MARK EATON, b. Private.

82. MORRIS EDWARD7 EATON (MORRIS RAMSAY6, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2,WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married ELEANORA MAE BARARDO Private. She was born Mar 2, 1929, anddied May 15, 1990.

More About MORRIS EATON and ELEANORA BARARDO:Private-Begin: Private

Children of MORRIS EATON and ELEANORA BARARDO are:i. SUZANNE MAE8 EATON, b. Private; m. CARL NORSIC, Private; b. Private.

More About CARL NORSIC and SUZANNE EATON:Private-Begin: Private

ii. JOHN CHARLES EATON, b. Private.

83. ALICE ISABEL (TWIN)7 EATON (MORRIS RAMSAY6, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2,WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married GEORGE GREFF Private. He was born Apr 3, 1929, and died May 31,1990.

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Children of ALICE EATON and GEORGE GREFF are:

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110. i. GEORGE CHARLES8 GREFF, b. Private.ii. MORRIS LEE GREFF, b. Private; m. PATRICIA VAUGHN, Private; b. Private.

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111. iii. DEBORAH LYNN GREFF, b. Private.112. iv. CHERYL ANN GREFF, b. Private.

84. ELSIE ILENE (TWIN)7 EATON (MORRIS RAMSAY6, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2,WILLIAM1) was born Dec 19, 1933, and died Jul 1, 1988. She married EDWARD TOKAR Private. He was bornPrivate.

More About EDWARD TOKAR and ELSIE EATON:Private-Begin: Private

Children of ELSIE EATON and EDWARD TOKAR are:i. JOHN8 CAROLINE, b. Private.

ii. JAY CAROLINE, b. Private.

85. RONALD MALCOLM7 SAUNDERS (MORRIS RAMSAY6, ELIZABETH SHARPE5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3,ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married KATHERINE L. CROMIE Private. She was born Private.

More About RONALD SAUNDERS and KATHERINE CROMIE:Private-Begin: Private

Children of RONALD SAUNDERS and KATHERINE CROMIE are:113. i. RONALD MALCOLM SAUNDERS8 JR., b. Private.114. ii. KATHERINE ANN SAUNDERS, b. Private.115. iii. LYNN MARIE SAUNDERS, b. Private.116. iv. PATRICIA LOUISE SAUNDERS, b. Private.

v. ROBERT ALLEN SAUNDERS, b. Aug 13, 1969; d. Jun 6, 1972.

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More About ROBERT ALLEN SAUNDERS:Cause of Death: drowning

vi. KAREN LOUISE SAUNDERS, b. Private; m. MATTHEW BANKS, Private; b. Private.

More About MATTHEW BANKS and KAREN SAUNDERS:Private-Begin: Private

86. RUTH ELIZABETH7 SAUNDERS (EMMOR MITCHELL JR.6, ELIZABETH SHARPE5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3,ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Aug 1828 in WV296, and died Unknown. She married UNKNOWN HUGHEY. Hedied Unknown.

Children of RUTH SAUNDERS and UNKNOWN HUGHEY are:i. JOHN8 HUGHEY, d. Unknown.

117. ii. PATRICIA HUGHEY, b. Private.

87. EUGENE RAMSAY (TWIN)7 SAUNDERS (EMMOR MITCHELL JR.6, ELIZABETH SHARPE5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born May 30, 1933 in WV, and died Sep 15, 1994 in Fairmont, W.V. Hemarried UNKNOWN Private. She was born Private.

More About EUGENE SAUNDERS and UNKNOWN:Private-Begin: Private

Children of EUGENE SAUNDERS and UNKNOWN are:i. ROBERT8 SAUNDERS, b. Private.

ii. DEBORAH FAYE SAUNDERS, b. Private.iii. EUGENE RAMSAY III SAUNDERS, b. Private.

88. ALICE JUNE (TWIN)7 SAUNDERS (EMMOR MITCHELL JR.6, ELIZABETH SHARPE5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3,ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married CHARLES GARY LINN LITTLE Private. He was born Private.

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More About CHARLES LITTLE and ALICE SAUNDERS:Private-Begin: Private

Children of ALICE SAUNDERS and CHARLES LITTLE are:i. LAURA JANES8 LITTLE, b. Private.

118. ii. CHARLES MITCHELL LITTLE, b. Private.

89. JUNE7 RAMSAY (ROBERT ALEXANDER6, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) wasborn Private. She married (1) W. GAMBOSH Private. He was born Private. She married (2) ALBERT PERRYPrivate. He was born Private. She married (3) DONALD MILLER Private. He was born Private.

More About W. GAMBOSH and JUNE RAMSAY:Private-Begin: Private

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More About DONALD MILLER and JUNE RAMSAY:Private-Begin: Private

Child of JUNE RAMSAY and W. GAMBOSH is:i. NANCY ANN8 STANKO, b. Private.

Children of JUNE RAMSAY and ALBERT PERRY are:ii. DIANA JUNE8 PERRY, b. Private.

iii. DAVID ALBERT PERRY, b. Private.iv. CAROLYN JOY PERRY, b. Private.

Child of JUNE RAMSAY and DONALD MILLER is:

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v. HOWARD DONALD8 MILLER, b. Private.

90. GRETCHEN7 RAMSAY (ROBERT ALEXANDER6, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1)was born Nov 15, 1938 in Greensburg, Westmoreland Co, PA297, and died Dec 22, 2000 in Greensburg,Westmoreland Co, PA297. She married (1) WILLIAM JOHN GOOD II Private. He was born Private. She married(2) WILLIAM KUHN Private. He was born Private. She married (3) JESSE MEDRANO CALVO Private. He wasborn Private.

Notes for GRETCHEN RAMSAY:from: Greensburg Tribune-Review/Gretchen Ramsay/Jeannette

"Gretchen Ramsay, 62, of Jeannette, died Friday, Dec. 22, 2000, in the Westmoreland Regional Hospital,Greensburg. She was born Nov. 15, 1938, in Greensburg, a daughter of the late Robert Ramsay and MarionGraham Degitz. Gretchen was the associate director of Dr. Bob Medical Weight Loss Center in Greensburg anda member of the Who's Who of Nursing. She is survived by two daughters, Cheryl Howe and husband, Barry, ofJeannette, and Holly Hemminger and husband, Ronald, of Greensburg; a son, William J. Good of Ligonier; threesisters, June Ramsay of California, Barbara Silvestri (sic) and husband, Mark, of Massachusetts, and DeborahMendenhall and husband, Russell, of Oregon; 11 grandchildren; a great-grandchild; and several nieces andnephews. Friends were received at the JOHN V. GRAZIANO FUNERAL HOME INC., 228 N. Second St.,Jeannette, Saturday from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 P.M. A funeral service will be held Sunday at 12:30 P.M. in thefuneral home chapel with the Rev. H. Donald Lash officiating. Interment will follow in the Brush CreekCemetery, Hempfield Township."

Gretchen died at 6 A.M. on a Friday at the Westmoreland Regional Hospital in Greensburg, Westmoreland Co,PA, the same hospital in which she was a nursing student years previously. A picture of Gretchen and otherstudent nurses is one of the photos that hung on the hospital corridor walls at the time she died. Gretchen wasburied, next to my mother in Brush Creek, on the day of Christmas Eve 2000. Gretchen was 62 years, 1 month, 7days old.

More About GRETCHEN RAMSAY:Burial: Dec 24, 2000, Brush Creek Cemetery, N. Huntingdon Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA298

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Cause of Death: septic shock as a consequence of metastatic bladder cancerEducation: Greensburg High School; 5 years of collegeMisc: Gretchen's beautiful home was named for "Victorian Haven"Occupation: nurse, artistResidence: "Vichaven," 234 N. Second St., Jeannette, Penn Twp, Westmoreland Co, PA

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Children of GRETCHEN RAMSAY and WILLIAM GOOD are:119. i. CHERYL MONIQUE8 GOOD, b. Private.120. ii. HOLLY KATHLEEN GOOD, b. Private.121. iii. WILLIAM JOHN GOOD III, b. Private.

91. BARBARA7 BECK-RAMSAY (ROBERT ALEXANDER6 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3,ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married MARK JOSEPH SILVESTRI Private, son of LOUIS SILVESTRIand HELEN RADZELOVAGE. He was born Private.

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Children of BARBARA BECK-RAMSAY and MARK SILVESTRI are:122. i. CARRIE BETH8 SILVESTRI, b. Private.

ii. MARK DAMIAN SILVESTRI, b. Private.iii. ERIK MICHAEL SILVESTRI, b. Private.

123. iv. JASON PAUL SILVESTRI, b. Private.

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v. HEATHER MARIE SILVESTRI, b. Private.vi. ADAM CHRISTOPHER SILVESTRI, b. Private.

92. DEBORAH DEANNE7 RAMSAY (ROBERT ALEXANDER6, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2,WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married (1) JOHN HUTT Private. He was born Private. She married (2)RUSSELL MENDENHALL Private. He was born Private.

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Child of DEBORAH RAMSAY and JOHN HUTT is:i. JENNIFER8 MENDENHALL, b. Private.

93. DONALD ALLAN RAMSAY7 HOLLOWAY (DONALD ALLAN6 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3,ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married ELEANOR VAN DYCK Private. She was born Private.

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Children of DONALD HOLLOWAY and ELEANOR VAN DYCK are:i. JILL DIANNE8 HOLLOWAY, b. Private.

ii. EMILY SUZANNE HOLLOWAY, b. Private.

94. BETH ANNE7 RAMSAY (DONALD ALLAN6, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) wasborn Private. She married LANDY CAMPBELL Private. He was born Private.

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Children of BETH RAMSAY and LANDY CAMPBELL are:i. KELLIE LYNN8 CAMPBELL, b. Private; m. CHRIS MAXIM, Private; b. Private.

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124. ii. RONALD RAY CAMPBELL, b. Private.iii. KEITH ALLAN CAMPBELL, b. Private.

95. JUDITH ANN7 GOODLIN (CATHARINE ELIZABETH6 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3,ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married RONALD PERKINS Private. He was born Private.

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Children of JUDITH GOODLIN and RONALD PERKINS are:i. CURTIS ALAN8 PERKINS, b. Private.

ii. MELISSA ANN PERKINS, b. Private; m. UNKNOWN DALANSKY, Private; b. Private.

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iii. AMY CHRISTINE PERKINS, b. Private.

96. CAROL LEE7 GOODLIN (CATHARINE ELIZABETH6 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2,WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married (1) UNKNOWN GOWIN Private. He was born Private. She married (2)ALBERT COUTURE Private. He was born Private.

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Children of CAROL GOODLIN and UNKNOWN GOWIN are:125. i. DAVID ERVIN8 GOWIN, b. Private.

ii. SCOTT THOMAS GOWIN, b. Private.

97. DAVID RAMSAY7 GOODLIN (CATHARINE ELIZABETH6 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3,ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private.

Children of DAVID RAMSAY GOODLIN are:i. HEATHER MAY8 GOODLIN, b. Private.

ii. JACOB DAVID GOODLIN, b. Private.iii. JONAH RAMSAY GOODLIN, b. Private.

98. MARK DASHIELD7 RAMSAY (MORRIS6, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) wasborn Private.

Children of MARK DASHIELD RAMSAY are:i. ALLYSA8 RAMSAY, b. Private.

ii. LAUREN DASHIELD RAMSAY, b. Private.

99. ROBERT MILLER7 CARSON III (MARJORIE ANN6 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2,WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married CAROL SPOONER Private, daughter of UNKNOWN SPOONER andUNKNOWN. She died Aft. 1977.

Notes for CAROL SPOONER:Her parents adopted Carol's boys after her death.

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More About CAROL SPOONER:Cause of Death: injuries sustained in a car crash

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Children of ROBERT CARSON and CAROL SPOONER are:i. JASON ROBERT8 CARSON, b. Private; m. VICKI WARREN, Private; b. Private.

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126. ii. MICHAEL LEE CARSON, b. Private.

100. LAURIE ANN7 CARSON (MARJORIE ANN6 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2,WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married GLENN SCHAFFNER Private. He was born Private.

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Children of LAURIE CARSON and GLENN SCHAFFNER are:i. BRYAN DALE8 SCHAFFNER, b. Private.

ii. SHARON MARIE SCHAFFNER, b. Private.

Generation No. 8

101. ROBERT DALE8 LONG (HELEN LOUISE7 CUNNINGHAM, HELEN MARGARET6 RAMSAY, ROBERT5, ROBERT4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married CINDY ORTIZ Private. She was born Private.

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Child of ROBERT LONG and CINDY ORTIZ is:i. CASEY LYNN9 LONG, b. Private.

102. NORMAN DANIEL8 LONG (HELEN LOUISE7 CUNNINGHAM, HELEN MARGARET6 RAMSAY, ROBERT5, ROBERT4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married UNKNOWN Private. She was born Private.

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Children of NORMAN LONG and UNKNOWN are:i. ADAM DANIEL9 LONG, b. Private.

ii. ALEXA KATHLEEN LONG, b. Private.

103. JOSEPH8 MADDEN III (LOUISE RAMSAY7 LA CLAIR, JEAN ERSKINE6 RAMSAY, ROBERT5, ROBERT4, WILLIAM3,ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married SUSAN THOMPSON Private. She was born Private.

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Children of JOSEPH MADDEN and SUSAN THOMPSON are:i. MEMORY LA CLAIR9 MADDEN, b. Private.

ii. STUART THOMAS MADDEN, b. Private.iii. JOHN RAMSAY MADDEN, b. Private.

104. JANET LYNN8 SQUIRES (ELIZABETH ANN7 SPHAR, SADIE RAMSAY6 EATON, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married RONALD MEYER Private. He was born Private.

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Children of JANET SQUIRES and RONALD MEYER are:i. PAMELA MARIE9 MEYER, b. Private.

ii. CHARLES LESLIE MEYER, b. Private.

105. ROBERT ROY8 SQUIRES (ELIZABETH ANN7 SPHAR, SADIE RAMSAY6 EATON, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married CONNIE FREELAND Private. She was born Private.

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Children of ROBERT SQUIRES and CONNIE FREELAND are:i. LAURA9 SQUIRES, b. Private.

ii. DANIEL SQUIRES, b. Private.iii. TIMOTHY (TWIN) SQUIRES, b. Private.iv. JILL (TWIN) SQUIRES, b. Private.

106. SANDRA8 SPHAR (WILLIAM ARGYLE7, SADIE RAMSAY6 EATON, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3,ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married ALVIN WOLFE Private. He was born Private.

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Child of SANDRA SPHAR and ALVIN WOLFE is:i. JEFFREY9 WOLFE, b. Private.

107. KATHY8 QUAIL (DOROTHY LOUISE7 EATON, MORRIS RAMSAY6, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3,ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married JAMES ALLEN POINDEXTER Private. He was born Private.

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Children of KATHY QUAIL and JAMES POINDEXTER are:i. JAMES ALLEN9 POINDEXTER, b. Private; m. SHANNON CHRISTINE MODAR, Private; b. Private.

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ii. STEVEN THOMAS POINDEXTER, b. Private.

108. GARY CHARLES8 EATON (JOHN ROBERT7, MORRIS RAMSAY6, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3,ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married LORIE LYNN Private. She was born Private.

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Child of GARY EATON and LORIE LYNN is:i. JESSICA CANDICE9 EATON, b. Private.

109. LORI ANN8 EATON (JOHN ROBERT7, MORRIS RAMSAY6, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2,WILLIAM1) was born Private.

Child of LORI ANN EATON is:i. DANIEL ROBERT9 EATON, b. Private.

110. GEORGE CHARLES8 GREFF (ALICE ISABEL (TWIN)7 EATON, MORRIS RAMSAY6, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY,MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married LAURA PENNY Private. She was bornPrivate.

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Children of GEORGE GREFF and LAURA PENNY are:i. MERYL EILEEN9 GREFF, b. Private.

ii. GEORGE TIMOTHY GREFF, b. Private.iii. LEAH ELIZABETH GREFF, b. Private.

111. DEBORAH LYNN8 GREFF (ALICE ISABEL (TWIN)7 EATON, MORRIS RAMSAY6, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married DONALD PAUL SHEPKA Private. He was bornPrivate.

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Children of DEBORAH GREFF and DONALD SHEPKA are:i. ALLISON LILLIAN9 SHEPKA, b. Private.

ii. ANDREA LYNN SHEPKA, b. Private.

112. CHERYL ANN8 GREFF (ALICE ISABEL (TWIN)7 EATON, MORRIS RAMSAY6, SADIE MARIA5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married FRANK PAUL JAMES LHOTSKY Private. He wasborn Private.

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Child of CHERYL GREFF and FRANK LHOTSKY is:i. KATELYN MARIE9 LHOTSKY, b. Private.

113. RONALD MALCOLM SAUNDERS8 JR. (RONALD MALCOLM7 SAUNDERS, MORRIS RAMSAY6, ELIZABETH SHARPE5

RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married SANDRA ZEGAREILLA Private.

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She was born Private.

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Children of RONALD JR. and SANDRA ZEGAREILLA are:i. ROBERT9 SAUNDERS, b. Private.

ii. RAY SAUNDERS, b. Private.iii. SEAN SAUNDERS, b. Private.

114. KATHERINE ANN8 SAUNDERS (RONALD MALCOLM7, MORRIS RAMSAY6, ELIZABETH SHARPE5 RAMSAY,MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married PAUL ALBERT II Private. He was bornPrivate.

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Children of KATHERINE SAUNDERS and PAUL ALBERT are:i. PAUL9 ALBERT III, b. Private.

ii. KRISTY ALBERT, b. Private.iii. MINDI ALBERT, b. Private.iv. MEGAN ALBERT, b. Private.

115. LYNN MARIE8 SAUNDERS (RONALD MALCOLM7, MORRIS RAMSAY6, ELIZABETH SHARPE5 RAMSAY, MORRIS4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married JOSEPH SEWARD Private. He was born Private.

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Children of LYNN SAUNDERS and JOSEPH SEWARD are:i. JOSEPH9 SEWARD, b. Private.

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ii. RANDALL SEWARD, b. Private.iii. KAITLYN SEWARD, b. Private.iv. ZACHARY SEWARD, b. Private.

116. PATRICIA LOUISE8 SAUNDERS (RONALD MALCOLM7, MORRIS RAMSAY6, ELIZABETH SHARPE5 RAMSAY,MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married DAVID GRASINGER Private. He wasborn Private.

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Children of PATRICIA SAUNDERS and DAVID GRASINGER are:i. DAVID9 GRASINGER, b. Private.

ii. TIMOTHY GRASINGER, b. Private.iii. LINDSEY GRASINGER, b. Private.

117. PATRICIA8 HUGHEY (RUTH ELIZABETH7 SAUNDERS, EMMOR MITCHELL JR.6, ELIZABETH SHARPE5 RAMSAY,MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married GARY BEWLEY Private. He was bornPrivate.

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Children of PATRICIA HUGHEY and GARY BEWLEY are:i. JACQUELINE9 BEWLEY, b. Private; m. UNKNOWN, Private; d. Unknown.

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ii. HOLLY BEWLEY, b. Abt. 1782; d. Unknown; m. JUSTIN LEGLEITER, Private; b. Private.

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118. CHARLES MITCHELL8 LITTLE (ALICE JUNE (TWIN)7 SAUNDERS, EMMOR MITCHELL JR.6, ELIZABETH SHARPE5

RAMSAY, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married TAMARA JANE WISE Private.She was born Private.

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Children of CHARLES LITTLE and TAMARA WISE are:i. MEGAN NICOLE9 LITTLE, b. Private.

ii. RYAN JAMES LITTLE, b. Private.

119. CHERYL MONIQUE8 GOOD (GRETCHEN7 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER6, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married BARRY LYNN HOWE Private. He was bornPrivate.

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Children of CHERYL GOOD and BARRY HOWE are:127. i. LEAH LYNN9 HOWE, b. Private.

ii. AMANDA CAROLYN HOWE, b. Private.iii. ELLIOTT RAMSAY HOWE, b. Private.iv. BARRY PAUL HOWE, b. Private.

120. HOLLY KATHLEEN8 GOOD (GRETCHEN7 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER6, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married RONALD DEAN HEMMINGER Private. He was bornPrivate.

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Children of HOLLY GOOD and RONALD HEMMINGER are:128. i. CRYSTAL KATHLEEN9 HEMMINGER, b. Private.

ii. TARA GRETCHEN HEMMINGER, b. Private.iii. CLARISSA MONIQUE HEMMINGER, b. Private.iv. HANNAH ROCHELLE HEMMINGER, b. Private.v. PAIGE DEANN HEMMINGER, b. Private.

121. WILLIAM JOHN8 GOOD III (GRETCHEN7 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER6, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married (1) CARMEN MARIE WITTICH Private. She wasborn Private. He married (2) TRACEY HACKNE Private. She was born Private.

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Children of WILLIAM GOOD and CARMEN WITTICH are:i. AMBER LEIGH9 GOOD, b. Private.

ii. CHELSEY MEGAN GOOD, b. Private.

122. CARRIE BETH8 SILVESTRI (BARBARA7 BECK-RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER6 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER5,MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married JOHN GRAEME NOSEWORTHY Private.He was born Private.

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Children of CARRIE SILVESTRI and JOHN NOSEWORTHY are:i. MATTHEW THOMAS9 PIERI, b. Private.

ii. JUSTIN GRAEME NOSEWORTHY, b. Private.

123. JASON PAUL8 SILVESTRI (BARBARA7 BECK-RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER6 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER5,MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married RENE LOUISE STANLEY Private. She wasborn Private.

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Child of JASON SILVESTRI and RENE STANLEY is:i. CHLOE RENE9 SILVESTRI, b. Private.

124. RONALD RAY8 CAMPBELL (BETH ANNE7 RAMSAY, DONALD ALLAN6, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private.

Child of RONALD RAY CAMPBELL is:i. BRENNA9 CAMPBELL, b. Private.

125. DAVID ERVIN8 GOWIN (CAROL LEE7 GOODLIN, CATHARINE ELIZABETH6 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER5,MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private.

Child of DAVID ERVIN GOWIN is:i. BRIAN DAVID9 GOWIN, b. Private.

126. MICHAEL LEE8 CARSON (ROBERT MILLER7, MARJORIE ANN6 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4,WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. He married UNKNOWN Private. She was born Private.

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Children of MICHAEL CARSON and UNKNOWN are:i. KORBYN MICHAEL9 CARSON, b. Private.

ii. KAYDYN CARSON, b. Private.

Generation No. 9

127. LEAH LYNN9 HOWE (CHERYL MONIQUE8 GOOD, GRETCHEN7 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER6, ROBERTALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private. She married UNKNOWN Private. Hewas born Private.

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Child of LEAH HOWE and UNKNOWN is:i. LUKE10 HOWE, b. Private.

128. CRYSTAL KATHLEEN9 HEMMINGER (HOLLY KATHLEEN8 GOOD, GRETCHEN7 RAMSAY, ROBERT ALEXANDER6,ROBERT ALEXANDER5, MORRIS4, WILLIAM3, ROBERT2, WILLIAM1) was born Private.

Child of CRYSTAL KATHLEEN HEMMINGER is:i. TREVOR10 HEMMINGER, b. Private.

Endnotes

1. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth, identifies spouse as Janet Thomson.2. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage, certificate #59704.

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3. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth, identifies spouse as William Ramsay.4. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage, certificate #59704.5. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.6. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.7. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.8. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.9. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.10. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.11. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.12. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.13. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.14. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.15. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.16. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.17. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.18. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.19. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.20. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.21. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.22. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage, certificate #28438.23. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.24. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.25. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage, certificate #28438.26. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.27. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.28. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.29. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.30. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.31. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth, certificate #28435.32. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage, certificate #28438.33. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth, certificate #28436.34. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening, certificate #28435.35. James Saxon Childers, Erskine Ramsay: His Life and Achievements, (New York: Cartwright & Ewing, Publishers,1942), p. 15.36. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening, certificate #28436.37. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage, certificate #28438.

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38. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.39. likely, considering the absence of any other records and the name of her next sibling40. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.41. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.42. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth, identifies spouse as Jean Ramsay.43. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.44. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.45. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.46. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.47. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.48. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.49. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.50. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.51. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.52. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.53. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth, identifies Helen Ramsay as spouse.54. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.55. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.56. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.57. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.58. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.59. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.60. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.61. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.62. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.63. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.64. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth, listed as 1816; should be 1817.65. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.66. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.67. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.68. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.69. Notes of Helen Ramsay Walter.70. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.71. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," marriage.72. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.73. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage, certificate #28440.

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74. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth, certificate #28437.75. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.76. Notes of Margaret Ramsay Jones.77. Passenger Manifest, Packet Ship "Tuscarara".78. Notes of Margaret Ramsay Jones.79. Passenger Manifest, Packet Ship "Tuscarara".80. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage, certificate #28440.81. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.82. inference; see notes on his mother83. Notes of Helen Ramsay Walter.84. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.85. Passenger Manifest, Packet Ship "Tuscarara".86. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth; record states only the name Janet Ramsay.87. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," marriage.88. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.89. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.90. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, death.91. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.92. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, 1881 census.93. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.94. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, statutory register birth index.95. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.96. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, statutory register birth index, mother's name listed.97. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.98. likely, considering name of next sibling99. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.100. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.101. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.102. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, 1881 census.103. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.104. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.105. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, statutory register birth index.106. likely, considering next sibling107. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, statutory register birth index.108. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.109. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.

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110. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.111. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, 1881 census.112. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.113. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.114. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, statutory register birth index.115. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.116. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, 1881 census.117. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.118. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, 1881 census.119. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage.120. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth; General Register Office has birth year only.121. clearly Elisabeth's and Thomas' birth dates conflict122. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, christening.123. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth; General Register Office has birth year only.124. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.125. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," marriage.126. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.127. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.128. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," marriage.129. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.130. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.131. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," marriage.132. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.133. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.134. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," marriage.135. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.136. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.137. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, death.138. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage, year only.139. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.140. Notes of Margaret Ramsay Jones.141. Passenger Manifest, Packet Ship "Tuscarara".142. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage, year only.143. James Saxon Childers, Erskine Ramsay: His Life and Achievements, (New York: Cartwright & Ewing, Publishers,1942), p. 5.144. Alabama Death Records, "Electronic."

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145. James Saxon Childers, Erskine Ramsay: His Life and Achievements, (New York: Cartwright & Ewing, Publishers,1942).146. 1900 US Census.147. 1910 US Census.148. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.149. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage, year only.150. Notes of Margaret Ramsay Jones.151. Passenger Manifest, Packet Ship "Tuscarara".152. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, marriage, year only.153. Notes of Helen Ramsay Walter.154. 1900 US Census.155. 1930 US Census.156. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.157. 1900 US Census.158. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.159. Notes of Margaret Ramsay Jones.160. Passenger Manifest, Packet Ship "Tuscarara".161. 1900 US Census.162. 1910 US Census.163. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth, certificate #28400.164. Registration of Deaths in the City of Allegheny, State of Pennsylvania, listed by date only, prior to the establishment ofDept. of Vital Records.165. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.166. Certificate of Death, PA Vital Records, certificate #0946553.167. Certificate of Death, PA Vital Records, #0946553.168. Notes of Margaret Ramsay Jones.169. Passenger Manifest, Packet Ship "Tuscarara".170. John W. Jordan, ed., History of Westmoreland Co: Genealogical Memoirs, Vol. II., (The Lewis Publishing Co, 1906),p. 335.171. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.172. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.173. Ramsay Family Bible, death.174. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.175. Ramsay Family Bible, death.176. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.177. Ramsay Family Bible, death.

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178. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.179. Ramsay Family Bible, death.180. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.181. Ramsay Family Bible, death.182. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth, year only.183. 1910 US Census.184. 1900 US Census.185. Passenger Manifest, Packet Ship "Tuscarara".186. 1910 US Census.187. 1900 US Census.188. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth, year only.189. Notes of Helen Ramsay Walter.190. 1900 US Census.191. Notes of Helen Ramsay Walter.192. 1900 US Census.193. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth.194. Notes of Adelaide Frick Ramsay Clarke.195. General Register Office, Edinburgh, Scotland, birth.196. 1910 US Census.197. 1920 US Census.198. 1910 US Census.199. 1900 US Census.200. Social Security Death Index, "Electronic."201. 1910 US Census.202. 1920 US Census.203. 1910 US Census.204. Westmoreland County Genealogy Project, Westmoreland County Casualty List World War 1917-1918, "Electronic."205. 1920 US Census.206. 1910 US Census.207. Tombstone, birth and death dates are recorded.208. Notes of Helen Ramsay Walter.209. 1920 US Census.210. Social Security Death Index, "Electronic."211. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," marriage.212. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," birth; identifies Beatrice Ramsay as spouse.213. International Genealogical Index, "Electronic," marriage.

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214. 1900 US Census.215. 1910 US Census.216. Social Security Death Index, "Electronic."217. 1910 US Census.218. Social Security Death Index, "Electronic."219. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.220. Ramsay Family Bible, death.221. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.222. Ramsay Family Bible, death.223. John W. Jordan, ed., History of Westmoreland Co: Genealogical Memoirs, Vol. II., (The Lewis Publishing Co, 1906),p. 335.224. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.225. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.226. Ramsay Family Bible, death.227. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.228. 1900 US Census.229. Ramsay Family Bible, death.230. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.231. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.232. Ramsay Family Bible, death.233. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.234. 1900 US Census.235. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.236. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.237. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.238. Samuel T. Wiley, Chief Assistant, John M. Gresham & Co: Philadelphia, 1890., Biographical and HistoricalCyclopedia of Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, (Reprinted by Mechling Bookbindery, Chicora, PA, undated, circa2002.), p. 216.239. Ramsay Family Bible, death.240. John W. Jordan, ed., History of Westmoreland Co: Genealogical Memoirs, Vol. II., (The Lewis Publishing Co, 1906).241. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.242. 1910 US Census.243. Social Security Death Index, "Electronic."244. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.245. Ramsay Family Bible, death.246. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.

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247. Ramsay Family Bible, death.248. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.249. 1910 US Census.250. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.251. Ramsay Family Bible, death.252. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.253. 1880 US Census.254. 1930 US Census.255. 1900 US Census.256. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.257. 1910 US Census.258. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.259. Certificate of Death, PA Vital Records, #063758-70.260. Orphans' Court, Westmoreland Co, PA, marriage license, #28985.261. Allshouse Family Bible, birth.262. Certificate of Death, PA Vital Records, #072845-67.263. Allshouse Family Bible, baptism.264. Orphans' Court, Westmoreland Co, PA, marriage license, #28985.265. Allshouse Family Bible, marriage.266. Ramsay Family Bible, birth.267. Ramsay Family Bible, death.268. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.269. Ramsay Family Bible, death.270. Ramsay Family Bible, marriage.271. 1900 US Census.272. 1920 US Census.273. Social Security Death Index, "Electronic."274. 1930 US Census.275. 1900 US Census.276. 1930 US Census.277. 1900 US Census.278. Social Security Death Index, "Electronic."279. 1920 US Census.280. 1930 US Census.281. 1900 US Census.282. Social Security Death Index, "Electronic."

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283. 1930 US Census.284. Social Security Death Index, "Electronic."285. 1930 US Census.286. 1910 US Census.287. Social Security Death Index, "Electronic."288. Certification of Birth, PA Vital Records, File #0104750-1912.289. Certificate of Death, PA Vital Records, certificate #2001087.290. Marriage Certificate, Morgantown, West Virginia; dated but not numbered.291. Certification of Birth, PA Vital Records, File #1589190-1914.292. Certificate of Death, PA Vital Records, #073818.293. Army of the United States General Discharge, Robert Alexander Ramsay, Lieutenant Colonel, Signal Corps, USAR,and a Major, AUS, 0405951.294. Marriage Certificate, Morgantown, West Virginia; dated but not numbered.295. Social Security Death Index, "Electronic."296. 1930 US Census.297. Certificate of Death, PA Vital Records, certificate #2001066.298. Greensburg Tribune-Review, "Electronic," obituary.