working with insurance industry - the c&s companies
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Working With the Insurance Industry
Linda Stoppacher, CPP, CSP, ARM, ALCM
Acadia Insurance Company
Parties During Design Phase
• Building Owner
• Code Officials
• Fire Department
• Architects and Design Engineers
It is understood that lives and safety of occupants and responders is of ultimate importance in this presentation. We are, however, going to discuss financial issues
How Insurance Works
Business Owner
• Needs Insurance
Agent or Broker
• Helps identify needs and priorities, services account
Carriers• Carrier A
• Carrier B
• Carrier C etc.
• Absorbs the loss
Property Casualty Coverage Types
PropertyBusiness
InterruptionGeneral Liability
Product Liability
Custom or Excess Lines
Commercial Auto
Umbrella and Excess
Worker’s Compensation
Boiler and Machinery
Inland Marine
The Insurance Carrier
Underwriter
Loss Control
Claims
• Loss Control• Visits Prospective Customer
• Evaluates risks and controls, condition, protection, values, natural hazards
• Provides Opinion to Underwriter
• May Make Recommendations to Improve (or even be able to insure) Risk.
• May Have Regular Service Relationship with Customer
Rates
• Insurance Services Organization• Verisk
• HPR• Highly Protected Risk
• Generally in Cents per Thousand Dollars of Value
• Reinsurance
Main Factors in Property Rates
• Construction
• Occupancy
• Public Protection
• Private Protection
• COPe
Construction
• Consider how it will behave in a fire.
• Consider firefighting operation, whether they are likely to enter or not.
• Consider whether it can be salvaged, and if it is likely to be a complete or partial loss.
Occupancy
• What is going on inside of the building?
• What are its relative risks to fire?
• Will it impact plans of first responders?
• Combustible load?
Public Protection
• What is a Public Protection Class?
• Availability of water
• Ease and speed with which water can be accessed
• Capability, distance, and equipment of Fire Department
• Needed Fire Flow• Can have a class 9 building in a
Class 4 town
Private Protection
• Any systems inside of the building• Sprinklers
• Gaseous agents
• Foam
• Alarm transmission
• Extent of protection
• Testing and reliability
Exposure
• Generally what the building may be exposed to from the exterior• Rising water
• A neighbor with significantly more hazardous operation
• Wildfire
• Usually smallest factor of COPE
• Pepcon Disaster Example
Rate Examples
• A $2,000,000 office building made of masonry non combustible construction. Completely protected by adequately designed and supplied sprinkler system, in a Public Protection Class 2.
• Rate may be $.10 per $1,000 in value.
• Hypothetical Premium?
Rate Examples
• A $2,000,000 restaurant building which is wood frame and not sprinklered. Location is a Public Protection Class 9 area.
• Rate could be $.35-$.50 per $1,000 in value
• Hypothetical Premium could be?
Compare Rate over Time
• This will be a graph, waiting for one piece of info from an actuary
Private Protection
• Not always about rate.
• My determine insurability.
Major Loss Sources
• Water Damage
• Fire
• Wind Damage
• Catastrophe
Loss Control
• Visits a Risk to learn about operation
• Evaluate Hazards• Storage/warehousing, Flammable liquid use and storage, Machinery, Wood
Dusts, Housekeeping, Electroplating, Quenching, Commercial Cooking…
• Evaluate/confirm construction, condition and appraisal value
• Evaluate private protection• Adequacy of systems, maintenance, extent of protection
• Evaluate public protection and services
• Natural hazards
Ideal Vs. Reality
Items needed from survey
Ideally• Hydraulically designed
• Designed for that occupancy
• Alarms to a central station
• Prefire planning with Fire Department which is close by
• Fire pump is exercised
• All testing documentation is in place
• Waterflow test is available
• Code officials involved at time of design
Reality many days• Scheduled system or no placard
• Fifth occupant of 100 year old building
• Isn’t the water gong enough?
• Fire department several miles away, unfamiliar with occupancy
• Fire pump touched once per year by contractor
• No proof of testing
• Having to estimate waterflow
• Inappropriate system features
• Age
• Lack of code enforcement in area
What to do?
• Sketch and calculate system
• Find water info from town, or estimate from 2” drain
• Make recommendations• Testing• Exercise/test pump• Address age issues
• Think about holistic loss scenario
• Provide best analysis to underwriter and, if necessary, reinsurer
Situations where you may work with an insurer• Client is building a new structure
or addition• May work with FPE if no code
official
• Pay provide and discuss specs for UNDERWRITING purposes
• May want to know about materials or brands being used
• Interest in Code used in design
You may work with an insurer when…
• Client wants to make improvements to Protection for better insurance rate• Insurer may provide minimum
requirements for rate reduction
• May provide approval to underwriter that design meets internal (and external) guidelines
• May have to provide documentation to a reinsurer
May work with an insurer when…
• There has been a loss impacting the fire protection system• Conveying to our claims unit the
need for additional expenses
• Our need to understand when the system will be operational once again
• How to prevent a similar loss in the future
May encounter an insurer….
• During a fire pump test• Like to witness when possible
• Discuss results with contractor
• Graph and compare to previous years
• Discuss any need to further explore a performance issue and what the next step is
• Discuss exercise schedule
May Help an Insurer….
• What is this? • Would you interpret this the same way I am?
How you can help a customer!
• If this is not present, or plans are not on site, ISO can dock your customer in its evaluation, resulting in a higher base rate.
An Insurer may help you….
• Does your company recognize this standard?
• This is outside the scope of NFPA, therefore would you accept this?
• Is this material or technology acceptable to you?• CPVC
• CLT
• Insulated Sandwich Panels
Insurance Loss Control as a Career
• Graying Industry
• Traditionally hire people with engineering or highly technical backgrounds
• More colleges are offering Insurance and Risk Management Programs
• Use a variety of codes and standards- DOT, NFPA, FM, OSHA, CPSC, ASHRAE, etc.
• Each day is different
• Can specialize in various lines or industries
• Involved with people
What are the Main Factors in Property Insurance rateA) Construction, Age, Protection, and Neighborhood
B) Construction, Occupancy, Private Protection, Public Protection and Exposure
C) How long a company has been in business and whether the sprinkler system is wet or dry
D) Industry trends
What is HPR and how is it used?
A) Highest Premium Ratio, it is used to get the most property rate on a risk.
B) Highly Protected Rate, it allows an insurer to keep rates high
C) Highly Protected Risk, it allows an insurer who is filed to do this to substantially lower a premium rate for an exceptional risk with superior protection systems and features
D) Hourly Premium Regulation, it determines rates for a manufacturer based on hours spent in hazardous activities.
In the absence of hydraulic information, what might an insurer do?
A)Guess on the sprinkler system’s adequacy
B)Refuse to provide coverage to a company
C)Charge a higher rate
D)Sketch the system and run a hydraulic analysis