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IEEE P1609 WG Meeting 2011 #3 Annapolis
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IEEE Std 1609.3-2010IEEE Std 1609.4-2010 IEEE Std 1609.11-2010
2010/12/30 2011/02/07 2011/01/09 IEEE 1609.2
2011/06/02-07/04 initial sponsor ballot IEEE 1609.0 IEEE 1609.1 IEEE
1609.12 initial sponsor ballot
IEEE 1609.2 initial sponsor ballot comment resolution
IEEE 1609.0 IEEE 1609.1 IEEE 1609.12 2
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� IEEE 1609.5 – Communication Management
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� IEEE 1609.12 – Provider Service Identifier Allocations
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IEEE P1609 WG Meeting 2011 #3
IEEE 1609 IEEE Std
1609.3-2010 IEEE Std 1609.4-2010 IEEE Std 1609.11-2010
2010/12/30 2011/02/07 2011/01/09 IEEE 1609.2 2011/06/02-07/04
initial sponsor ballot IEEE 1609.0 IEEE 1609.1 IEEE 1609.12
initial sponsor ballot
IEEE 1609.2 initial sponsor ballot comment resolution
IEEE 1609.0 IEEE 1609.1 IEEE 1609.12
IEEE 1609.3IEEE 1609.4 IEEE 1609.11
July 12 - 14, 2011
ARINC
2525 Admiral Cochrane Drive
Annapolis, MD
U.S.A.
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IEEE 1609.0 –
Architecture IEEE 1609.1 – Remote Management ServicesIEEE 1609.5 –
Communication Management IEEE 1609.2 – Security Services for Application
and Managements IEEE 1609.12 – Provider Service Identifier Allocations
1.0 INTRODUCTION (Tuesday) T. Kurihara
1.1 Introductions (name and company)
1.2 Local arrangements G. Pruitt
1.3 IEEE Patent Policy
1.4 WG Attendance and Attendance List
1.5 Identify Meeting Secretary
1.6 Modifications to draft agenda and approval of agenda
1.7 Review of draft minutes from February 2010 meeting
2.0 REVIEW OF ACTION ITEMS T. Kurihara
Action Item Review – Status of open action items from previous meetings.
N.B. Objective to identify OPEN items and placement into this meeting agenda or to indicate
completed action and, not to discuss the technical merits at this point in the agenda.
ACTION ITEM ACTION DISPOSITION
201008-11 J. Moring to create and maintain a file of P1609.0 topics In progress
201010-01 T. Kurihara to initiate communication with IEEE SA staff by
introducing the terms sheet and the nature of the agreement
desired between IEEE and SAE.
Initiated 10/14. In
progress
201101-05 R. Roy to provide to JM the list of international standards for
P1609.0.
Open. Before July
meeting
201101-06 R. Gerges to provide an overview of network management. Open. Before July
meeting
201104-01 T. Kurihara to include July RAC meeting agenda item
regarding IEEE P1609 WG position on PSID registration for
presentation to the RAC scheduled to meet during the IEEE 802
Plenary week in July 2011
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ACTION ITEM ACTION DISPOSITION
201104-02 T. Kurihara to extend closing date for forming P1609.2 ballot
group to May 20, 2011
Done
201104-03 T. Kurihara to (1) inquire with G. Pruitt, ARINC, if conference
room space is available to host the IEEE 1609 WG meeting July
12-14 2011; (2) if unavailable, notify J. McNew for a venue in
San Diego area
Done. Space
available information
circulated
201104-04 J. Moring to change P1609.0 PAR title, scope, and purpose from
“trial-use standard” to a “guide”
Done. Comment
from NESCOM
resolved
201104-05 J. McNew to change P1609.12 title to be more generic to include
identifiers other then PSIDs
Done
201104-06 T. Kurihara to provide information to ETSI TC-ITS about
status of IEEE VTS P1609 activities with emphasis on the
development work on P1609.1
Done
201104-07 T. Kurihara inquire if NTCIP Joint Committee
(AASHTO/ITE/NEMA) there are standards coordination topics
for the Connected Car program that requires exploration.
Done Discussion in
progress. On agenda
for July meeting
3.0 PROGRAM OF WORK T. Kurihara
3.1 P1609.1 discussion threads and review of draft (by teleconference)
A. Malarky
Status of draft, review of comments, and plans for sponsor ballot
3.2 P1609.2 discussion threads and review of draft W. Whyte
Status of revised draft, review of comments, sponsor ballot status
3.3 P1609.0 discussion threads, review of drafts J. Moring
3.4 1609.3 Corrigenda J. Moring
Status of revised draft, review of comments, plans for sponsor ballot
3.5 Overview of P1609.2, PSID Allocation J. McNew
Status of expert discussions, review of comments, and other details
Additional identifiers essential to 1609 WAVE
3.5.1 ETSI/CEN/ISO Harmonization of Identifiers (102 860)
DR. H-J Fischer
3.5.2 ETSI and ISO ITS station facilities layer
3.5.3 ETSI and ISO IPv6 projects
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3.6 SAE J2735, J2945.1 projects and status; ETSI TC-ITS WG1 coordination
J. Kenney
3.7 Safety Pilot Information and Connected Vehicle CONOPS Workshops (Thursday
morning) W. Fehr
4.0 OLD BUSINESS
4.1 Update of certification program; test methods, coordination R. Roebuck
ETSI Plugtest and test platform development
4.2 VSC3/CAMP update J. Kenney
5.0 NEW BUSINESS T. Kurihara
5.1 IEEE Standard 802.11-2007, amendment .11p and .11ai, FILS
5.2 Changes to PSID Information for the IEEE RAC (carry-over to July) T. Kurihara
5.3 Disposition of P1609.5 PAR (expires 12/2011) or change in title, scope
J. McNew
Requirements for change from communication manager to network manager or
other requirements for consideration
5.4 Overview of network management (carry-over from April) R. Gerges
5.5 NTCIP Joint Committee and wireless connectivity, C2C, C2Field (wed 1000),
AASHTO (W. Brownlow), ITE, and NEMA standardization activities
B. Schopp
6.0 FUTURE MEETINGS (Thursday am) T. Kurihara
6.1 Discuss and determine IEEE WG meetings after July 14, 2011 T. Kurihara
6.2 Known and To Be Determined Meeting Dates (any other group meeting?
DATE MEETING, VENUE, HOST
Jul 12-14 IEEE P1609 Working Group Meeting, ARINC, Annapolis, MD
Jul 17-22 IEEE 802.11 Meeting, San Francisco, CA
Jul 21 *IEEE RAC meeting, San Francisco, CA
Jul 29 NESCOM and REVCOM submission closing date for September 8-10 meeting
Aug 18-22 ISO TC204 WG16, CALM, Kyoto Research Park (KRP), Kyoto, Japan (ITU-T
invited)
Sep 8-10 IEEE NESCOM, REVCOM, and SASB Meetings
Sep 7-9 CEN TC278 WG16/ISO TC204 WG18, Brussels, BG
Sep 18-23 IEEE 802.11 Working Group Meeting, Okinawa, Japan
Sep 20-22 Review the Core System Requirements and Architecture Proposal, 2nd Workshop,
San Jose, CA
Oct 4-5 IEEE P1609 Working Group Meeting, host and venue, TBD
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DATE MEETING, VENUE, HOST
Oct 18 Submission closes for REVCOM and NESCOM meetings in December 5-7
Oct 10-14 ISO TC204 Plenary, Hyatt downtown, Tampa, FL
Oct 16-20 ITS World Congress, Orlando, FL
Oct 24-28 ETSI TC-ITS plenary, Sophia Antipolis, FR
Nov 6-11 IEEE 802.11 Working Group Meeting, Atlanta, GA
Dec 5-7 REVCOM, NESCOM, IEEE SASB meetings
Dec 5-9 CEN TC278 WG16/ISO TC204 WG18 meeting, Kyoto, Japan (venue TBD)
* = indicates meetings for WG Chair not related to ITS and DSRC/WAVE (for 1609 meeting scheduling purposes)
7.0 ACTION ITEM REVIEW T. Kurihara
8.0 ADJOURNMENT T. Kurihara
2011/07/12 ( )
09:20 16 William Whyte (Security
Innovation) John Kenney (Toyota) Justin McNew (Kapsch) John Moring
(Kapsch) Richard Roy (ESF GmbH)Randy Roebuck (FST)Hans-Joachim Fischer
(ESF GmbH) Carl Kain (Noblis) Wayne Fisher (ARINC)Satish K. Putta (Harman
International) Gary Pruitt (ARINC) Ravi Puwala (Savari) Robert Rausch
(Transcore) (ITRI) (ITRI) Thomas M. Kurihara (TKstds
Management) Ramez Gerges (Caltrans)Gloria Gwynne (Caltrans) Jules
Madey (New Yourk State Thruway) Ron Hochnadel (INTRASS) 4
Tom voice conferencing
Tom action item
09:55 John Moring IEEE 1609.0 IEEE 1609.3 IEEE 1609.4 IEEE
1609.5 IEEE 1609.0 PAR (Project Authorization Request)
Guide Management ID IEEE 1609.12
John Kenney safety use case Dick
system WAVE device ITS station John
Moring Tom Dick contribution
John Moring John
Moring (expand networking discusssion electronic payment use case)Randy
(certification) Alastair (1609.1/remote management)William (security) Dick
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(Reference/list of European standards)Randy certification
IEEE 1609.2 certification
UDSOT certification interoperability IEEE
1609.0 10 sponsor ballot comments
resolution 2012/02 2012/03 IEEE REVCOM
10:45 John Moring IEEE 1609.3 IEEE 1609.3
PAR 2011/05 4 IEEE 1609
Annex G-3D locationEDCA parameter set Gateway MAC address
John Moring IEEE 802.11 Reference Carl
IEEE 802.11 TGm IEEE 802.11-2012
IEEE 1609.3 ballot
11:00 John Moring IEEE 1609.4 IEEE
1609.5 Tom IEEE 1609.5 GeoNetworking
IEEE 1609.3 connection Dick Hans-Joachim
GeoNetworking WAVE Tom
GeoNetworking IEEE 1609
ETSI TC ITS GeoNetworking
11:25 John Kenney VSC3/CAMP CAMP USDOT
V2V Communication Security (V2VCS)V2V Interoperability
(V2VI) V2V Safety Pilot (V2VSP) Scability
channel congestion control
V2VSP Dick
congestion control
John Kenney CAMP congestion control prototype
IEEE 1609 congestion control
Stanley ETSI TC ITS
CAMP
12:06
13:25 William IEEE 1609.2 initial sponsor ballot
comment IEEE 1609.2 initial sponsor ballot
2011/06/02 07/04 60 (76%) 75%
48 8 4 William ballot
comment Dick comment resolution IEEE 1609
William comment
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teleconference comment resolution comment
� IEEE 1609.2 scope purpose ( 1.1 1.2) Dick John
Kenney William
2011/07/29 PAR
� Definition ( 3.1) Dick high layer high layer
entity William security client security
consumer functional entity payload entity Dick
issuing certificate William PKI
Dick unit WAVE unit William
WAVE device
John Kenney PSID IEEE 1609.3
William IEEE 1609.3
� WAVE protocol stack Security SAP (Service Access Point) (
4.1) David Hunter
Dick MS-SAP Management/Security
SAP SAP William
John Moring Provider Services IEEE 1609.3
IEEE 1609.3
William Provider Service Entity Advertised Service
� Certificate Hierarchy ( 4.4) Dick end-entity
William /FAQ
� ToBeEncryptedCertificateResponse ( 5.3.35) Andre
Weimerskirch CRL cr_path<2^64-1> <var>
William 2^56
� WaveSecurityServices-SignedWsa ( 6.5.2) Dieter Smely John
Moring SignWithFastVerification EC Point Format IEEE
1609.3-2010 IEEE 1609.2
John Moring
WSA secured WSA explicit
certificate uncompressed pointsJustin William
secured WSA security profile
17:40
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2011/07/13 ( )
09:15 15 William Whyte (Security
Innovation) John Kenney (Toyota) Justin McNew (Kapsch) John Moring
(Kapsch) Richard Roy (ESF GmbH)Randy Roebuck (FST)Hans-Joachim Fischer
(ESF GmbH) Carl Kain (Noblis) Wayne Fisher (ARINC) Satish K. Putta (Harman
International) Bob Robert Rausch (NTCIP) (ITRI) (ITRI)
Thomas M. Kurihara (TKstds Management) Gloria Gwynne (Caltrans) 1
09:20 William IEEE 1609.2 initial sponsor ballot
comment John Moring WSA Fast Verification Compressed
EC Point William option
WG member mailing list William
John Kenney WSA
Fast Verication Compressed EC Point IEEE 1609.2
security profile for WSA
implement overwrite security profile
10:10 John Moring “A CRL is processed by the CME. It shall
be encapsulated as a 1609Dot2Message. If it is transmitted as a WSM, the PSID shall
be 0x17.” “encapsulate” John Moring CRL
William 1609Dot2Message IEEE 1609.2
CRL John Moring William Carl William
IEEE 1609.2
10:25 John Moring IEEE 1609.2 mandatory
implementation IEEE 1609.2
William “A compliant unit may send secure messages,
receive secure messages, send secure WSAs, receive secured WSAs, or any
combination of the above.” William “A conformant unit
may send secure messages, receive secure messages, send secure WSAs, receive
secured WSAs, or one of the functions above.”
conformant to 1609.2 William
1609.2 component
“1609.2-conformant” 1609.2 checklist
vendor 1609.2
10:50 Bruce J. Schopp, Wiiliam (Bill) Brownlow, John R. Miller ATC
(Advanced Traffic Control), NTCIP (National Transportation Communications for
ITS Protocol) NEMA (National Electrical Manufacturers Association)
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IEEE 1609 WG NTCIP SNMP
MIB
Ethernet 3G
MIB IEEE 1609 WG
(1) DSRC SPAT (2) DSRC
Carl Safety Pilot SPAT SAE
J2735 traffic controller J2735
loss NTCIP/NEMA
information loss legacy traffic controller
Dick DSRC 3G DSRC RSU
OBU
NTCIP Dick IEEE
funding Tom IEEE
Tom
IEEE 1609 CTS, VTS, ITS IEEE
CTS VTS ITS
12:09
13:10 Randy OmniAir
HIA “Here I Am (HIA) Device Certification Pilot” to OmniAir May 2
HIA
profiling IEEE 802.11p:2010, 1609.2 (D9),
1609.3 (2010), 1609.4 (2010) SAE J2735 (200911) standards GPS
2011/08 SwRI (San
Antonio) OmniAir Qualitative
13:40 William IEEE 1609.2 initial sponsor ballot comment
IEEE 1609.2 encryption description process John Moring Dick
function Service Access Point (SAP)
functions with normative processing
functional block William
13:50 William implicit certification chain
birthday paradox IEEE 1609.2 certification chain
certificate
William (1)
(2) 64-bit hash (hash value
implicit cert chain ) 256 bits (3) implicit cert chain
3
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14:20 Justin IEEE 1609.12 PSID
Hans-Joachim ISO ISO
PSID ISO 15628 PSID
Hans-Joachim byte value ISO 15628
CEN/TC 178 2011/09
plenary meeting ID Justin John Moring Tom
sponsor ballot AID
(Application ID) IEEE 1609.12 sponsor ballot
comment IEEE 1609.12 IEEE
1609.12 4.1.3 “At the time of publication of
this standard, PSID values are allocated as specified in Table1 and harmonized with
the list of AIDs in ISP 15628:2007” “until such time
requests for future allocations should be made to the IEEE 1609 Working Group
Chair.” Management ID IEEE 1609.1 IEEE
1609.3 IEEE 1609.0 IEEE 1609.2 IEEE 1609.5 IEEE
1609.11 reserved
16:10 Hans-Joachim IEEE1609 harmonization
PSID IEEE 1609.12
17:05
2011/07/14 ( )
09:10 14 William Whyte (Security
Innovation) John Kenney (Toyota) Justin McNew (Kapsch) John Moring
(Kapsch) Richard Roy (ESF GmbH)Randy Roebuck (FST)Hans-Joachim Fischer
(ESF GmbH) Carl Kain (Noblis) Wayne Fisher (ARINC) Satish K. Putta (Harman
International) Robert Rausch (Transcore) (ITRI) (ITRI)
Thomas M. Kurihara (TKstds Management) Alastair Malarky (Kapsch)Ramez
Gerges (Caltrans) Gloria Gwynne (Caltrans) Jules Madey (New Yourk State
Thruway) Ron Hochnadel (INTRASS) 5
Tom Walton Fehr talk “Layered Communication
Enabling V-I Applications – Connected Vehicle Core System” Walton
US DOT Workshop
high-level CA RSE/OBU
John Kenney Walton HIA
? Walton congestion control
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congestion control application
10:20 Alastair IEEE 1609.1
Alastair survey micro-controller vendor
SNMP/IP ASIC
10:50 Tom
2011/09/27-28 Annapolis
San Diego Tom editor
2011/11/29-30 17:00
IEEE 1609
IEEE 1609.0 Guide
2011/10 sponsor ballot comments resolution
2012/02 2012/03 IEEE REVCOM IEEE
1609.1 security SNMP survey
survey 2012 initial sponsor ballot IEEE 1609.2
2011/06/02-07/04 initial sponsor ballot comment resolution
teleconference sponsor ballot IEEE Std 1609.3-2010
IEEE Std 1609.4-2010 2010/12/30 2011/02/07
IEEE Std 1609.3-2010 ballot IEEE 1609.5
2012/12
IEEE Std 1609.11-20101 2011/01/09 IEEE 1609.12
ISO ETSI CEN
Initial Sponsor Ballot Tom
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Kurihara ( ) IEEE 1609 Chair
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IEEE 1609.2 initial sponsor ballot comment resolution
William Whyte ( ) Security Innovation IEEE 1609.2
William Whyte Attack on implicit cert chain IEEE
1609.2