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Intro
Lkgg I'm LK Gardner-Griffie and I write Young Adult and Middle Grade fiction. (that felt like announcing
a vice) I'm here to chat. #CPHC
Gailzahtz You're modest today @MarkPitzele among other things ;-) Meet @lkgg a fabulous YA
author who's also coming out of chemo #CPHC
Lkgg .@GailZahtz @MarkPitzele Soon to be coming out of chemo... another cycle and
we'll see where we stand. #CPHC
Sandyhubbard I'm Sandy Hubbard - co-host of #CPHC chat and an advocate for making the world more
accessible for people of all abilities.
Markpitzele Mark Pitzele, book printing and fulfillment solutions, among other things #CPHC
Sandyhubbard @MarkPitzele Hi Mark - thanks as always for supporting discussions that keep
literacy, printing and publishing thriving! #CPHC
Gailzahtz It's great when literacy, advocacy and by the way health and design converge
at #CPHC @MarkPitzele @lkgg
raquel815 This is my first tweetchat with #CPHC Still trying to work the kinks out as I get started :-)
dcoopsd I have a couple moments and thought I'd jump in and say hi to the gang at #CPHCgailzahtz So glad you jumped in @dcoopsd we're doing an exciting two weeks with authors and
today are starting with YA author @lkgg #CPHC
dcoopsd @GailZahtz That's so funny considering we're doing a book launch on
#DesignLUX this week! Great minds @lkgg #CPHC
gailzahtz What do you mean a book launch at #designLUX @dcoopsd ?? Do tell.
This week with radio too we have @lkgg @authorjryan and others! #CPHC
gailzahtz Please do send me a reminder! I would love to join! @dcoopsd
@aphrochic @lkgg @authorjryan #CPHC #designLUX united ;-)
drkdhoffman Hello...trying to participate... #cphc
gailzahtz THRILLED to have you @drkdhoffman Are you having tech/multi-task difficulties?
Either way great to have you here with #CPHC @lkgg #literacy
drkdhoffman tech difficulties #cphc
jessicafastball Authors, if you have some time follow the #CPHC chat going on with @GailZahtz and
@lkgg #YA #Cancer
Sandyhubbard RT @walkersvillemom: Interested in writing with an advocacy purpose? Join #CPHC
twitter chat 1pm today! #AtoZchallenge
Sandyhubbard WRITERS: Today we're talking about writing on #CPHC and we have a guest writer with
us today. Please join us!!
Technical difficulties
Sandyhubbard @GailZahtz I'm not seeing your tweets in the #CPHC timeline.... When I goto your profile
I CAN see them, Very strange.
Lkgg .@sandyhubbard Sometimes that happens. I have no explanation except evil trolls live in
the basement of Twitter. @GailZahtz #CPHC
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Gailzahtz So the #CPHC timeline isn't working @sandyhubbard Is this for all software? Not
during our hour with @lkgg !!!
Lkgg .@GailZahtz Perhaps I'm the Bermuda Triangle of Twitter chat @Raquel815
#CPHC
Gailzahtz Troubles all around @sandyhubbard can you also kick off the topics Sandy? We're
having all kinds of tech diff- what's going on? #CPHC @lkggSandyhubbard I'm not seeing Gail on tweetchat or @nurph either - and her tweets to me are
not showing up in my notifications! #CPHC
Sandyhubbard AHA! That makes snese - somehow I had blocked Gail - don't know how
THAT happened! #CPHC Now unblocked and we should be good.
Sandyhubbard @Nurph It turned out I had blocked her somehow. I realized it when I
couldn't even see her tweets to me. #CPHC
Gailzahtz We all seem to be having tech difficulties today @drkdhoffman I'm amazed that @lkgg is
holding her own on this chat! She's so great! #CPHC
Sandyhubbard I'm beginning to wonder if Twitter does its weekly tech updates at 1 pm Tues. We've had
our fair share of tech problems over past yr #CPHC
Gailzahtz Today really seems particularly bad.. wonder if 1 pm really is worse? UG #CPHC
@sandyhubbard
Writing for Young Adults
Lkgg .@GailZahtz Okay I'm LK Gardner-Griffie, I write Young Adult and Middle Grade books
encompassing the issues our kids face today. #CPHC
Gailzahtz What started you on writing for young adults versus other writing? @lkgg #CPHC
Lkgg What started me writing Young Adult is simply that those are the ideas that
present themselves to me. Those are the issues @GailZahtz #CPHC
Lkgg I tend to be drawn to. I think the emotional and developmental aspect of that age
group are key. @GailZahtz #CPHC
Lkgg To me YA is about tackling the issues the teens face. Head on. I don't sugarcoat.
@GailZahtz #CPHC
raquel815 @lkgg @GailZahtz #CPHC i agree! young adults know when they are
being talked down to and they can process complex issues well
gailzahtz What's interesting is that you don't sugarcoat tough issues and yet my
young children want to read them too not just teens @lkgg #CPHC
lkgg I believe the appeal in my writing is that is accessible to a broad range
of reader. Despite tough topics. @GailZahtz #CPHC
gailzahtz It's interesting that they really want more honesty than less- doyou find YA easier to be honest with? #CPHC @lkgg @Raquel815
gailzahtz It is incredibly accessible @lkgg yet you've also made yourself
accessible here and on other social media- do you find differences? #CPHC
lkgg Not sure what you mean by finding differences @GailZahtz #CPHC
gailzahtz Sorry, caught by 140 @lkgg I was wondering if you
find it different to be honest/accessible to readers/audience in
140 versus a book #CPHC
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dcoopsd @GailZahtz @lkgg 140 characters forces you to
eliminate the unnecessary, making your point instead of
droning on. #CPHC
gailzahtz Great point @dcoopsd as everyone who knows me
knows my emails alone can go on forever! @lkgg I love this on
being on point honest #CPHClkgg I think the use of 140 characters forces us to keep the issue focused.
Maybe promotes honest discussion. @GailZahtz #CPHC
gailzahtz I agree! Sometimes I think I'm more honest in 140 @lkgg
because I'm thinking less and just getting it out- especially in chat.
#CPHC
lkgg It would be impossible not to be honest in YA. The moment you hide, they turn off.
this is not just with books @GailZahtz @Raquel815 #CPHC
sandyhubbard I agree that young adults are sophisticated readers and understand subtleties of
literature. #CPHC
sandyhubbard Middle schoolers recognize derivitive storylines, pandering, condescension, tricks to get
them to engage. Have to be authentic. #CPHC
lkgg #TRUTH MT @sandyhubbard: Middle schoolers recognize derivitive storylines, pandering,
condescension, tricks to get them to engage. #CPHC
markpitzele I think teens face things that we only dreamed about needing to deal with at that age, in
general they are very sophisticated #CPHC
lkgg True. Each generation of teens tends to face more complex issues than the last as the
world evolves, @MarkPitzele #CPHC @GailZahtz
lkgg But in a way, some of the issues they face, and the emotions they must work through are
time immemorial. @MarkPitzele #CPHC @GailZahtz
raquel815 .@MarkPitzele #CPHC i agree! I'm only 25 and couldn't even imagine having to do high school
with things like facebook and twitter bullying!Markpitzele @lkgg @GailZahtz Have found teens really respect seeing adults at their most vulnerable as
well, it allows them to take guard down. #CPHC
Gailzahtz Agree! mT @MarkPitzele: @lkgg teens really respect seeing adults at their most
vulnerable as well, it allows them to take guard down. #CPHC
Gailzahtz #CPHC RT @JessicaFastball: @MarkPitzele @lkgg Could not agree more. Idea adults
have all the answers or are always strong fosters unreality
Sandyhubbard Watching the news with middle schoolers is very enlightening - what stories capture
their emotions and their indignation. #CPHC
Lkgg YES! MT @sandyhubbard: Watching the news with middle schoolers is enlightening - what
stories capture their emotions & indignation. #CPHC
Lkgg Most teens appreciate when adults admit they were wrong. Not such a high bar to live up to.
@GailZahtz @JessicaFastball @MarkPitzele #CPHC
Markpitzele @lkgg @GailZahtz @JessicaFastball So true, especially because we are often
wrong.............. #CPHC
Gailzahtz I'm lol really. As a #mom I have a list a mile long daily of all I do wrong for my kids
#CPHC @lkgg @JessicaFastball @MarkPitzele
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Gailzahtz Kids are better with honesty than being right. RT @MarkPitzele: @lkgg
@JessicaFastball So true, especially because we are often wrong. #CPHC
Jessicafastball @GailZahtz @lkgg @MarkPitzele Fine line between beating yourself up and
recognizing we all have challenges and are doing our best. #CPHC
Gailzahtz Yes! RT @JessicaFastball: Fine line between beating yourself up and
recognizing we all have challenges and are doing our best. #CPHCMarkpitzele Amen RT @JessicaFastball: Fine line between beating yourself up and
recognizing we all have challenges and are doing our best. #CPHC
Jessicafastball @GailZahtz @MarkPitzele @lkgg Making it a priority to apologize to my kids. I yell, I get
frustrated, and then I don't apologize. #CPHC
Lkgg Exactly Authenticity is the key. @Raquel815 @GailZahtz @JessicaFastball @MarkPitzele #CPHC
Jessicafastball @Raquel815 @lkgg @GailZahtz @MarkPitzele Not sure I agree. Anger is often
authentic. Parents being overbearing is authentic too. #CPHC
Gailzahtz Really great points- what do you see is the line between authenticity versus
anger? #CPHC @JessicaFastball @Raquel815 @lkgg @MarkPitzele
Markpitzele Line very narrow that we all cross RT @GailZahtz: Really great
points- what do you see is the line between authenticity versus anger? #CPHC
Jessicafastball @lkgg @Raquel815 @GailZahtz @MarkPitzele Kids are doing their best too. Often
without coping strategies that we as adults may have. #CPHC
Jessicafastball @lkgg @Raquel815 @GailZahtz @MarkPitzele Bringing out best in kids means
giving them responsibility before they've fully earned it. #CPHC
Jessicafastball @GailZahtz @Raquel815 @lkgg @MarkPitzele Authentic = I'm disappointed. I expected
dishes 2 B done. Anger = Why didn't you do dishes?! #CPHC
Gailzahtz Actually it is more authentic that I am disappointed or sad than really angry
@JessicaFastball @Raquel815 @lkgg @MarkPitzele #CPHC
Jessicafastball @GailZahtz @Raquel815 @lkgg @MarkPitzele As a parent I am really inconsistent so I
work on that. Means being on same page with spouse. #CPHCGailzahtz It's hard to be consistent as a parent for all of us! #CPHC @JessicaFastball
@Raquel815 @lkgg @MarkPitzele
Sandyhubbard I have to fight myself not to keep inserting "moral of ther story" for middle schoolers and
just let the storyline unfold. #CPHC
Lkgg Moral of the story is death to Middle Grade and above. Too many people want to
underscore the moral. @sandyhubbard #CPHC @GailZahtz
Sandyhubbard Middle school readers are often focused on existential ironies. they don't want moral of
story hammering them over the head. #CPHC
gailzahtz You've worked on different sides with a lot of authors @sandyhubbard @MarkPitzele what do
you find makes accessible to hard issues? #CPHC
Patient and Advocate
Lkgg .@GailZahtz I also have leukemia and lymphoma and am currently undergoing chemo to get rid of
the evil in my body. #CPHC
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Gailzahtz I wasn't sure how much you wanted to talk about the leukemia- glad you came out of
the gate- it will help others #CPHC @lkgg
Lkgg On the cancer... I keep a website chronicling my journey. http://t.co/cavth3bXeR
@GailZahtz #CPHC
Gailzahtz How has it helped keeping this? RT @lkgg: On the cancer... I keep a
website chronicling my journey. http://t.co/KNR5KKhzFW #CPHCMarkpitzele @lkgg @GailZahtz Thanks for sharing that link. #CPHC
Lkgg Writing about the cancer is actually a time saver for me. I know so many people who want
updates, by writing it ... more @GailZahtz #CPHC
Lkgg I don't have to take the time to update each person individually. That would sap everything I have
so the blog is essential @GailZahtz #CPHC
Walkersvillemom Hello @lkgg ! Very interested in children's / YA literature & symbolism used to talk
about disability. #CPHC
Gailzahtz So glad you made it @walkersvillemom In addition to being YA author @lkgg on
disability/ she's also been going through her own cancer #CPHC
Lkgg Hello @walkersvillemom I don't tend to write much symbolism, but put the disability onthe page. My novels are realistic. #CPHC @GailZahtz
Walkersvillemom Just presented my evaluation tool for Ds in kids lit - lots of interest to adjust
for other conditions / diagnosis bit.ly/DsinKidsbooks
Gailzahtz She has a ton of links @MarkPitzele as @lkgg is incredibly prolific! Can @sandyhubbard
@walkersvillemom help by sharing more links? #CPHC
walkersvillemom Diary of a Misfit" - love the title! blog.griffieworld.com
Gailzahtz You write some hard issues in your different series- from #bullies to #trauma to #abuse @lkgg
How do you make the manageable for YA? #CPHCLkgg I find emotions are universal. And that is my strength is capturing those emotions
whatever the circumstance. #CPHC @GailZahtz
Lkgg I couldn't write without that relationship with my characters. They come to me, they tell the story.
I journal @GailZahtz @Raquel815 #CPHC
Gailzahtz What do you find is common and/or different journaling for your characters'
advocacy versus your own with your cancer? @lkgg #CPHC
raquel815 .@lkgg #CPHC how do you say in touch with the YA audience? how do you keep an
understanding of what teens face today?
Lkgg I don't necessarily have tools to keep in touch... other than some volunteer work and my
nieces and nephews @Raquel815 #CPHC @GailZahtz
Lkgg I guess if I have a "tool" that I use it is key words on Google to bring me news stories about
the topics I write @Raquel815 #CPHC
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Sandyhubbard Do you have to be around your audience to write for them? #CPHC Asking all writers
out there....
Lkgg They come to me. They want their story told. I'm their journalist to send it out to the world.
@Raquel815 @sandyhubbard @GailZahtz #CPHC
Walkersvillemom Great to give people a voice! MT @lkgg: They come to me. They want their
story told. I'm their journalist to send it out to the world. #CPHCJessicafastball @lkgg @Raquel815 @sandyhubbard @GailZahtz Agree. Sometimes they won't
leave you alone. #CPHC
Sandyhubbard @lkgg Sorry so far behind here. I am very interested in your writing process. Accessing
inspiration. #CPHC
Gailzahtz I think that we're all having some technical difficulties @sandyhubbard so happy that
@lkgg understands! And she'll be on radio Wed #CPHC
Gailzahtz Really great for writers out there @sandyhubbard as @lkgg talks often to the #amwriting
#amreading aspiring #writer with inspiration! #CPHC
The Writing Process
Lkgg I think you will find my writing process is a little different than most. :-) Some people plan their
books. @sandyhubbard #CPHC @GailZahtz
raquel815 #CPHC how do you find time to write while holding down a full-time job?
Lkgg I hold down a full time job and it's a balancing act. Schedule time daily.
@Raquel815 #CPHC @GailZahtz
Lkgg I may not accomplish everything I want every night, but I do accomplish
SOMETHING every day. @Raquel815 #CPHC @GailZahtz
Gailzahtz How do you manage the balance + with #chemo too! RT @lkgg: I hold down afull time job and it's a balancing act. Schedule time daily. #CPHC
lkgg The chemo adds in a wrinkle. I'm not doing a lot of new words, but more
research, edits, etc I have several projects going. @GailZahtz #CPHC
gailzahtz You've been doing more writing by writing about the #cancer
during the #chemo on top of your new projects How? @lkgg #CPHC
Gailzahtz I have to say that of all the authors I know (which is many) that @lkgg is the most consistent
WORKING one I know- amazed w/discipline #CPHC
Sandyhubbard Discipline in writing is vital but how do you access that place where you can be creative,
inspired, transported? #CPHC
Markpitzele $100,000 Question RT @sandyhubbard: Discipline in writing is vital, how access
that place where to be creative, inspired, transported? #CPHC
Lkgg Meditation, and funnily enough research always sparks the creativity. The "ooh shiny
moments" come from that @sandyhubbard #CPHC @GailZahtz
Carenovatemag @lkgg @Raquel815 @GailZahtz that's awesome, just do mentally I bet, write as much
as you can #cphc
Markpitzele I usually think anything I write in my mind for days or more before I attempt to get it on
paper #CPHC
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Gailzahtz I think my writing is better when I think more and write less @MarkPitzele I have to
remind myself to leave computer @lkgg #CPHC
Sandyhubbard @MarkPitzele Everything I write in my mind sounds so good and then once it's
on paper, it's stilted and overwritten. #CPHC
Gailzahtz I write best when I write like I'm talking- when I get caught in my head is when it gets
stilted @lkgg @sandyhubbard @MarkPitzele #CPHCSandyhubbard I'm so excited @lkgg will also be radio guest this week with host @gailzahtz #CPHC - I
want to hear more about writing process.
Gailzahtz Do you keep a schedule or word count or other process that enables you to be both prolific
and working and editing? #CPHC @lkgg
Lkgg Yes. Keep the words flowing when possible. But a lot of writing is rewriting.
@carenovatemag @Raquel815 @GailZahtz more... #CPHC
Markpitzele So true, many, many drafts RT @lkgg: Yes. Keep the words flowing when
possible. But a lot of writing is rewriting #CPHC
Lkgg Yes. I do a LOT of thinking, mulling, getting to know the characters before putting a
single word on the page @MarkPitzele #CPHC @GailZahtz
Lkgg And for me the rewriting take a different creative energy than the new to the page words.
@carenovatemag @Raquel815 @GailZahtz #CPHC
Gailzahtz You manage to write a lot and edit a lot. Do you spend time daily doing both? Or do you juggle
another way? @lkgg #CPHC
Lkgg 140 characters is not enough to express the therapeutic qualities of writing. I think of it as my
purge. @Raquel815 #CPHC @GailZahtz
raquel815 .@lkgg #CPHC haha! agreed! i find myself writing because it helps me make sense of
the world... i do it more for myself than others
Gailzahtz Please even though it's hard- lots of people asking about both the therapeutic value
and your work ethics/ process so tweet on! @lkgg #CPHC
Lkgg If I've missed a question... ping me again. I'm trying to keep up. ;-) #CPHC @GailZahtzGailzahtz You're doing a FAB job @lkgg but I do see a lot of people asking about your writing
process, so wanted to jump on that #CPHC
Sandyhubbard I do my rewrites on a different computer, with reference books, paper and pen, fresh
coffee and fresh air. #CPHC
Businessgp I 'write' in my head first, then on paper and then on computer. #CPHC
sandyhubbard I think, think and then write, write, write and then cut, cut, cut and then write
some more. #CPHC
markpitzele Good process, than I usually have mult computer drafts RT @businessgp: I
'write' in my head first, then on paper and then on computer. #CPHC
gailzahtz Adding #CPHC RT @businessgp: I have several in my head all the time. I then
form and reform them until I feel I can commit to paper.
lkgg For me each novel has been written in a different way... bar the thinking beforhand.
@sandyhubbard #CPHC @GailZahtz
lkgg I used to write on paper to start, but now I'm a direct into the computer gal. And many drafts.
@MarkPitzele @businessgp #CPHC @GailZahtz
gailzahtz I went out and bought more sketch pads to get me back to writing and thinking more
@MarkPitzele @businessgp @lkgg @sandyhubbard #CPHC
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gailzahtz I have trouble when I do too much writing just on the computer- but it seems so much easier.
@lkgg @MarkPitzele @businessgp #CPHC
lkgg I feel as if the thoughts flow directly from my head through my fingers and onto the page.
@GailZahtz @MarkPitzele @businessgp #CPHC
gailzahtz I have a couple of novels and several non-fiction- I just don't manage my time for
writing as well as @lkgg does @businessgp #CPHCgailzahtz Isn't that the most honest writing? RT @lkgg I feel as if the thoughts flow directly from
my head through my fingers and onto the page #CPHC
lkgg Getting the thoughts to flow that way is the key. Nirvana for a writer. You're not trying to pull them
one by one. @GailZahtz #CPHC
gailzahtz How do you get there? RT @lkgg: Getting the thoughts to flow that way is the key.
Nirvana for a writer. You're not trying to pull... #CPHC
lkgg That is the tricky point. Environment free of distractions, whatever you need to get
into the zone whether it's music...@GailZahtz #CPHC
gailzahtz An environment free of distractions? Where do you find that when
you have your computer on?? @lkgg #CPHC
raquel815 TRUTH RT @GailZahtz: An environment free of distractions?
Where do you find that when you have your computer on?? @lkgg
#CPHC
lkgg If having the internet on is too much of a distraction, then there are apps
for that. They turn it off for a time @GailZahtz #CPHC
lkgg It boils down to discipline and whether you are giving your best to
the work. If I'm in the zone, the house could fall. @GailZahtz #CPHC
Sandyhubbard I( get very involved in my characters' back stories and then don't know how much to
include. #CPHCLkgg But @sandyhubbard YOU have to know ALL the backstory because you don't know how it
influences the words on the page ..more #CPHC @GailZahtz
Gailzahtz Think @lkgg can speak to this! mT @sandyhubbard: I get very involved in my
characters' back stories; don't know how much to include. #CPHC
Lkgg Even if the backstory parts never make it into the story, they do influence everything else.
@sandyhubbard #CPHC @GailZahtz
Sandyhubbard Back story distracts me, though, because then I have to go research
history, even if it is recent history. I want it to be correct. #CPHC
Gailzahtz Glad you made it! @businessgp As a "working" writer/ communicator- do you have the novel
waiting to be written? #CPHC Good to see you!
Drkdhoffman I'm going to have to catch your transcript. I have to go pick up my child at school. Thank
you @lkgg #cphc
Gailzahtz Glad you could join us @drkdhoffman we'll have @lkgg on the radio tomorrow at 9
pm ET and you can get that in download also! #CPHC
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Markpitzele Author Cheryl Strayed made great point in one of her books, everyone has a story, how the
story transformed you is the key for readers #CPHC
Lkgg My stick figures wouldn't inspire anyone to do anything but run. LOL. @businessgp @MarkPitzele
@GailZahtz #CPHC #Notanartist
@lkgg @businessgp @GailZahtz I can't even draw a stick figure. #CPHCBusinessgp @MarkPitzele: @lkgg @businessgp @GailZahtzI can't even draw a stick
figure. #CPHC
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Gailzahtz So I'm already getting feedback that a lot of people have a lot of questions for @lkgg and the
writing process- so feel free to use #CPHC
Gailzahtz We didn't get to- but @lkgg is now represented by @ItaliaGandolfo and other authors from
the agency will be joining us for 2 weeks #CPHC
Gailzahtz This week we'll be back on at 9PM ET on W, TH, Su, Mon with great authors starting with
@lkgg tomorrow #CPHC @sandyhubbard