aj weberman takes on al capp
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TB.JI.NSCRIPTION. OF-AJ ~ i l l B E R f . l A N GN" T H ~ AL CAPP SHOVJ
(programme•never ai red)
My name i s Al Capp and my job i s get t ing Li l Abner into t rouble in
the comics and real people in to t rouble on radio . . . . our next guest
i s Alan J . \•leberman. Now Alan J . vi berman i s a revolutionar:r ·
COMJVTIJNIST who doe snt l ike to be cal led Alan because it s too com-
radlJ . . . he prefers to be cal led A.J. which has an important r ing to
it . . it makes him sound l ike an executive . . .
That s for OU . . . YOU CALL ME AJ . . . 1.;r fr±ends cal l me Alan.
I::-see . . . I see but I may be your fr iend before th i s da.:r i s over . . .
I doubt it
Oh You dont know.how chummY I can become but AJ, SON, th i s i s mY
in t roduct ion . . . .
. . . DAD
. . . so You l e t me go r igh t through it A.G, and l a te r i f I l ike You
vou can cal l me DAD. Now l e t s go in there again cause I have some
very witt \ things here and I dont want anY interruptions
Ah OkaY . . .
No tl 1 u jus t s i t there and inhale and exhale Alan . . . AJ AJ SORRY I l I
SO SORRY . . .
Give me something to inhale and exhale with . . . .
app I jus t dont happen to havR ~ U f l kind of inhaling and exhaling s tuff
with me but there s a PUSHZR down the block . . . .
AJ You l e f t it home, huh?
Capp. . . who l l fetch it in a minute. A.J. s profession i s goinG tlcrough
garbage, Bob D lan s garbage to be exact, and v e1ll hear more about
th i s f ~ s c i n t i n g and inspir ing young Amerikan af ter th is message . . . .
No• A.J. as an authoritY on DYlan surel:; you know his name i s Zimmerman.
AJ Of course.
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ves. Vlh' dont .:ou cal l Yourself . . . to be p u t ? e ~ REALLY PURE, a Zimmerman-
ologis t rather than a D7lanologist? I t has more of an academic ring.
\ lhY O.ont I cal l mYself a Zimmermanologist. Simple. it has too man'I
sYllables: ,
Too manY .SYLLABI,ES.A J
has stumped me With the PURE HHITE logicof his reason . . . now You re the onl:; l iv ing Zimmermanologist . . e r r r
. . . DYLANOLOGIST.
Let me correct Yer introduct ion f i r s t . . . m profession i sn t going
through Dylan s garbage . . . I:merelY did that in order to get a platform
for my ideas because of the sensat ional is t nature of the media. \'ou
see I 1 d been stud•cing D·,lan 1 s poetr·. via anal rt ic cr i t i c sm for about
four years previous to my·going thru his garbage and I received ver:r
l i t t l e at tent ion in the press . . .
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No kidding . . . although ~ o u studied his poetry the press paid no at tent ion
to you. AJ I consider that . . . .
They were more in terested in his garbage.
. . . . very unfair . , . and then you star ted to go through Dylan s garbage . . .
Hell I feel that the wayI
studied Dylan• s poetry v1as def ini t ly news
worthy- because 1·1here most rock cr i t ics glossed over the ly r ic s and
said they were meaningless I found meaning by using the techniques
of analyt ic cri t icism.
I m gonna read you a poem weitten by eerr Rob Dylan and it t a lks about
guys l ike you . . . Look I dont care what your daddy says, J . Edgar Hoover
is jus t not that good a guy . . l i k e he must have information . . Ah some
people l ike Shelly, some people l ike Keats but does Shelly and Keats
have what Dylan h a s - abysmal ignorance- cer ta inly not. J . Edgar Hoover
goes on with Dylan; . . J Edgar Hoover is jus t not that good a guy. 1:/hy
;,e must have information on every person inside the 1·/hite HOuse that i f
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the pub l ic knew about could des t roy those people . So here your idea l ,
Dylan, expresses u t t e r contempt fo r people who gather informat ion on
ot:-,er people how does he fee l about you?
Dylan has mixed f ee l ings about me
i'-Iixed with v1ha t?
He admires me because I 'm a f ' ighter because I do my th ing cease less ly .
By the' ~ a y J·,ow do you support yoursel f 0 Dylanologis ts a re n ' t in t rem-
endous demand I 1ve never s a i d - 'Ca l l a Dylanologis t r i gh t over . . '
Ypu'd be surprised
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How much did you earn th i s week from Dylanology?
About seven buclcs.
HovJ do you l i ve . . . are you on welfare'?
Almost I wri te fo r Tl·1e Eas t Village · ) ther they pay about .;25 a
week 1111en they can. I v1rite on other t op ics dont l i ve l i ke a
p ig . . lil::e most v1::ite Amerikans do . . I l i ve modest ly in a small lo.f 't on
t ~ e Pm-rery. Fut l e t ' s get- baC c to
NO NO NO YOU AJ Do you v1ri te
Cl,ay 1m doing an a r t i c l e for ;o:squire I · ~ a e ; a z i n etJN GARBAGE .
n var ious famou.s personages garbage
GART AGI: 1{•a t a STH 'GNG way to mal{e a l iv ing
:Eut ge t t i ng back to tlca t J . Edgar Hoover t>1ing Did ya lmo1tr t ha t
Jac]{ Anderson ~ ~ e n t t: ,rough J . Edgar '1oover 1 s garbage?
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You knov1 Jack Anderson, dont you?
Yes, yes
vrent through yer garbage too didnt he man?
That r igh t and ah ah ah ah
Found a l l kinds of' th ings about you being kicked out of' Alabama for
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All th i s , of course, will be ·:anked r ight out jus t as I •m not gonna
mention your being arrested as a DOPE PEDDLER.
Can you prove that?
Let s get back . . .
Can you even come up vrith an arres t record on that?l ' lell, i f you'd l ike us to we will . . .
I 1d l ike to see you do tha t . . . I v1as arl:'ested for sale of ~ · 1 A R I J U J l N AMarijuana i s DOPE
rlARIJUll:NA IS A HARNLESS SUBSTANCF.
But legal ly i t 1 s DOPE and you were arrested for PUSHING DOPE
\-Jell a t that time . . . .
\'/ell now'let•s not ta lk about that cause we're gonna go r ight back
and cut ALL of that out.
Hell , marijuana or exposing :J;ourself . . . Give me reefep anytime . . . I t
never hurt anyone . . . what a way to introduce some bod;r to human sex-
. ual i ty . . . showing them :·our l1izened genitals . . HHAT A HA• TO INTRODUCE
A YOUNG PE:?.SON TO SEX.
think we've had enough of AJ shall we?
I think i f we ta lk about the Dylan thing . . . .
No I have no desire to have AJ here with me in th i s room
· I undepstand. Thank ;/OU AJ but some other day
No I jus t wont have you here . . . .
Oka:r dad.
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•l - FOR SOME STRANGE reason .
f AI Capp decided to in\'ite A J.t Weberman to be his gqest o- pilot for a new radio s _
was taping several wee s ago. Iheard a tape of the interview and,although Capp seemed to have _-formatted the show as a Joe Pynebait-the-guest f f ~ A. J. cer u y ~ ~thumbscrew methods.
Capp began by introducing A J.
as a revolutionary com- watcmunist, and kept referring to and
i him sarcastically' as a me ,l f a s c i n a t i n ~ and inspiring Stre1 young American. As Capp's Sil1 heavy-handed snidery droned on ,
and on, A. J. grew impatient to fiihget into his standard Dylan-the- cart
ripoff artist rap. Capp egged him sineon: Mr. Weberman's hobby is his
1going through people's garbage , Theand Weberman retorted that the choprecedent for reportorial trash
- collecting had been set by colum . nist J acl5; Anderson. Anderson
•i- garbage, A J. claime . nld ·went through yours too. That 'she where he found out about your·s- being arrested for exposing yourst self.er Capp, the righteous defender of
t I right-wing morality, countered iris relevantly with a vague threat:ng We won 't mention that on the
show, just like we won't mentionMr. Weberman's Michigan arrest
ne for dope peddling. Somehow, A>m J. didn't feel that the fact he had
once been busted for selling grass
he would destroy his image or ca•e- reer. How can you compare
selling a harmless drug with child·e molesting? A nice way to intd troduce young kids to sex,o showing them your wizened genia- tals.
I think we've had enough of
Mr. Weberman, Capp broke in,.gs and the interview came to an end.hn A J. had broken the unwrittenar- talk-show rule that a guest mustat never confront his host perco, sonally, and that confrontationlly and baiting only go so far.tex
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