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I. Call to Order – 6:16
A. President: Alex Lee
B. Vice President: Abhay Sandhu
C. Senate Pro Tempore:
D. Senator: Sofia Molodanof x
E. Senator: Sam Chiang
F. Senator: Shaitaj Dhaliwal
G. Senator: Irveen Grewal
H. Senator: Ricardo Martinez
I. Senator: Joshua Dalavai
J. Senator: Parteek Singh
K. Senator: Sam Park
L. Senator: Georgia Savage
M. Senator: Puneet Dihndsa
N. Senator: Adilla Jamaludin
O. Senator: Adam Xu
P. ECAC Chair: - Komal Sharma -
Q. EPPC Chair:
R. IAC Chair: Nicholas Flores
S. EAC Chair: Sarah Williams
T. AAC Chair: Hemali Patel
U. GASC Chair: Allison Tam
V. B&F: David Heifetz x
W. Secretary of Outreach and Engagement: Jade
Wolansky
X. Controller: Joe DeAngelo
II. ASUCD Scholarship Presentations
i. Sandhu: so as some of you may know starting week 6
we opened up scholarship applications. Week 8 we
were interviewing and we gave a total of 9 awards. 2 of
them could not make it. The ASUCD scholarship
created in 90s sole purpose to giving to those in need
not based on academic scholarships but really the
struggles you had and what you have doen to overcome
them. All these individuals exemplify those qualities.
The first person is someone we all know. She is our
senate recorder, 2000 dollar scholarship. Lover her!!
David, Jacqueline, Tyesha, Chelsea, Colin, Tin lee were
presented 1000 dollar scholarship.
IV. EAC Table Awards
i. Nazzal: the hottie hot award to the member that
represent quorum in the best way possible. This year it
will go to chair. Ritesh Mishra!
ii. Mishra: thank you Joe and to everybody who voted for
me. I appreciate it. I don’t think I’m that old to be an
icon yet but thanks. I humbly accept this award.
iii. Savage: I would like to give Joe Nazzal the nottie not
award
iv. Nazzal: I regret nothing. I gladly take it if it’s the price
I get for talking crap.
V. Chair wells – 6:24
i. Nazzal: none of us in this room deserve to be here. Our
achievements and contributions don’t belong to us.
They are the result of someone else giving us this
opportunity. We have to give back in some way. This is
not about us. ASUCD isn’t about padding your own
resume or your middle initial on your plaque. And its
definitely not about getting paid. Every single person
here is blessed to be here. Thank you to EAC and all
my commissioners. Thanks to Kia you are my rock. Do
not ever lose your optimism. Thank you to you all, you
know who you are. To the current and future chairs,
you have power in this association. Do not ever forget
that. I hope to see you all again. I respectfully submit.
ii. Mishra: I have nothing planned. I thought about what I
can say. I’ve been here for 2 years. Before I even
started classes here I joined ASUCD. It’s the way I can
make lasting relationships and meet people who are
different than me and I can appreciate that. Challenging
people makes them better. It is what makes you better
and makes me better. I wanted to thank Janice because I
learned from her ways. I learned how to manage a
situation without being there. I am grateful for that. I
am grateful because tomorrow we can meet at a
different place and time and we have ASUCD to thank
for that. the positions that we will hold and things we
can do. People come and say we come to ASUCD to
make us sound fancy. When you help 8 or 9 students it
means a lot more. Experiences mean more than titles.
I’ve been blessed with this opportunity. I would like to
leave you with an Irish blessing that my father got. May
the road ride up to meet you and the wind forever at
your back. Until we meet again may God hold you in
his hands.
iii. Rosenwald: the year went by really fast. I remember
like yesterday when my friend told me at 2 am to apply
for this. I had no idea what I was even applying for. I
take years to respond but I responded to Melissa after 2
minutes. Alex Lee said what do you know about
ASUCD and I looked him dead in the eye and said
nothing, really. In that moment I thought I lost it. I
thought it was because I wore a knit tie and Alex being
the fashionable guy he is, hired the most unqualified. I
had no idea what was going on the first meeting. I was
intimidated and overwhelmed. I could not have asked
for a better learning experience. Put yourself in
uncomfortable situations, especially socially. It builds
your confidence and makes you a better person. The
experience of leaving and coming into the ASUCD
circle has taught me to see things differently. At this
time you are wondering is he going to take shots at
people? No, I’m not Laura and Ash and I did before I
got here. I would like to thank API brothers. I want to
shout out my commission. I look back to the
awkwardness of our first meeting and how comfortable
we are with each other know. I want to shout out
Miguel and Sivan and the tailgate committee. I want to
shout out Adilla for hosting post senate kickbacks. I
want to shout out Josh for being able to talk about
basketball and Kanye and for speeding up the meeting
process. I want to thank Ivon for being the perfect
example of what a commission chair is. I want to shout
out Ritesh for being the best-spoken person at this table.
I look forward to seeing you. Lastly, Joe Nazzal my boy
you understand me the most. Your no nonsense attitude
is badass. You are never afraid to be who you are. You
are Palestinian, I am Jewish. Humanity and respect
triumphs over everything and we are living proof of
that.
iv. Garcia: I spent way too long for this so I hope you are
appreciative. I got commission chairs candy. I love you
all so much. These bulky ones have candy. These ones
are for the senators. I am sorry I am late. I want to say I
came in absolutely loving it. I would stay until 2 am as
a member of the public. I did it because I did love it.
One thing I remember is being a member of the public
discussing one of the events. My commission chair
decided to give me his time. The whole table discussed
for 2 hours my event and not a single one wanted to
hear what I wanted to say. It was so disrespectful. I
thought, if I got on the table I can be heard. I wanted to
be something and have my voice heard. As we all
know, that does not happen. So many times I am on the
list and I got moved out. I had no way to motion so that
was down. There are different ways to be heard and
communicate that I found possible. I spent my first year
thinking how to do this. I was trying to be source of
knowledge. It was very much different the end of my
term. I felt a different dynamic. I was the only trans
person on the table and only person talking about it.
Because of that, all the senators got a cute little bag and
I went and found 5 articles concerning different things I
want to leave you all with. I want to be your friend and
leave on good terms. I don’t want to keep being the one
person you all rely on for this knowledge. This helped
me learn and im very tired and bitter and salty of who I
am now. I came as happy and cheery. It is institutional
now. We are too over worked. We do not get enough
out of it that we put in. It is hard work managing a
commission. There is just so much stuff I absolutely
love and I want to share that. It is the reason why I do
not want to leave this bitter. I want to leave this space
in a happier spot. For so long I thought of what I am
going to say here. I am in a different spot and I do not
want to be a bitter person. I feel that is not equitable. I
want to acknowledge for so long I thought the best way
to know people is speaking. I learned we, as chairs have
to constantly speak on this table. I so appreciate you all
commission chairs. You are so valid. There is a reason
why people do not want to be chairs or run on senate.
You know your commission and know it comes first
and deal with the lack of respect. You are all amazing
and I hope we all leave on a good note. I also put tea
because self care. I do not want to make this all about
the senators. It is never about the chairs. I will be
making cards for every one of you. Thank you Brent.
Your hair is amazing. It was the first thing I noticed. I
want to say I appreciate you and your time. You knew
your commission and you had a passion. Joe you are
absolutely wonderful and I appreciate how you talk
about so much stuff. You helped so much. I always
vented to you. You are on point in everything you say.
Ritesh, I am sorry we didn’t hang out as much. We
should do that. You have so much passion and interest.
I am sorry we never got to collaborate, I wish we did.
David I appreciate your energy. Joe you were also a
wonderful person I appreciated sitting next to you. Jade,
I am sorry I didn’t go as much to events and I overslept
one time. You are easily one of the sweetest people on
the table. All the things you do for ASUCD is amazing.
I just feel cheery sitting next to you. I appreciate every
time I bump into you. It is a highlight of my day for us
to talk. You are so undervalued and I appreciate you.
The successors can never fill your spots. What makes a
commission is the leadership and personal. You all are
leaving a legacy. It does not get seen at the table. You
all have been wonderful. I appreciate you in general.
You should remember me by all my grams and doodles
in my report. Thank you for hearing me out.
VI. Commissioner of the Year Awards
i. Sandhu: This individual put in a lot of work for this
commission. Alex isn’t here right? We will start with
Niati Menda
ii. Wolansky: right away you jumped in and were so
passionate about outreach. All your hard work makes
me feel like it is worth it.
iii. Sandhu: Allison Tan from GASC
iv. Garcia: I appreciate everything you have done for
GASC. You have done so much work and take over so
much I delegate to you. You made this year bearable. I
got to depend on you and have made me so proud and
absolutely deserve this.
v. Sandhu: B&F Alex Mirnoff
vi. Heifitz: you’ve been in every single meeting, the audit,
like you went above and beyond every other
commissioner. You added diversity to the group and
different perspective than business and finance.
vii. Sandhu: IAC Sanya Fife
viii. Flores: Sanya has been here for a year. She is known
for being the questions in text person. She is graduating
but she did such a good job. We were commissioners
together. She’s awesome and I love her.
ix. Sandhu: Connie Kwan EAC
x. Nazzal: she has been here probably longer than me. She
is so good and always be counted on to throw some
serious shade and catch people on everything. You
deserve this.
xi. Sandhu: Abby Edwards
xii. Mishra: you deserve the world. You are the kind of
person that cares about what you do and make sure it is
done the way it should be done. I cannot be more
grateful. You will do great things Abby.
VI. Appointments and Confirmations – 6:52
A. EAC
i. Nazzal: Sarah Williams has been here many times. You
may recognize her from her power hair. Sarah is a
fantastic leader and great at speaking her mind
ii. Martinez: what have you done on commission?
iii. Williams: I am a third year. As far as specifics, there
aren’t many individual projects but I am up there with Joe
and other folks. Helping with music on the green and
voicing my opinion on legislation. Maybe sometimes
playing devils advocate and making sure we have the
conversations we should have in commission. There isn’t
one big thing but being a strong voice overall.
iv. Dalavai: often times in EAC you see controversial
legislation but how would you handle a discomfort from
your commissioners or uneasiness?
v. Williams: we had a few experiences with that. as a chair
my position will be different than previously. I would
voice my opinion in a space that is safe. Something joe did
that I like is warning us beforehand. Preparing us was
instrumental in us having productive conversations. I
would follow his lead in that standpoint as well as voicing
my opinion.
vi. Singh: what is an issue in EAC right now?
vii. Williams: funding, this is a transition year. We are going
to move into new territory. I am looking forward to
figuring out what ASUCD will be doing. Moving into
OASR and strengthening our relationship with the city.
For me, what is on the horizon is what we will do in the
future. Ask me at the end of summer for specific projects.
viii. Singh: how do you plan on addressing this? What way do
you want to approach?
ix. Williams: Joe and I were talking today. I want to focus on
it being instrumental with OASR. Focusing on events that
do not cost money, maybe some form of teach-in.
neighborliness and having a party, other things like
renter’s rights. Really strengthening that bond with city
council and creating new bonds. Being a political force.
x. Dhaliwal: what ways would you like to bridge the gap
with ASUCD?
xi. Williams: when we talked about bridge the gap it tends to
be with the city. I think of it as a business. We had dinner
down town, bridging the gap id love to do a farmer’s
market type of deal or going to dinner. Encouraging all of
you to do the things we do.
xii. Chiang: sounds like you have great plans, what experience
do you have?
xiii. Williams: I was volunteering with Gareth Smith. That was
introduction to ASUCD. I was an RA. Since then I wa son
EAC since fall quarter. They don’t let you do fun things as
an RA. I come to senate meetings once in a while. I like to
be involved so I always know what is up. I was vice chair
last quarter.
Confirmed
B. AAC – 7:00
i. Mishra: thank you to the interviewing committee.
Hemali has been commissioner for two years, she has
shown and displayed leadership. We will contact the
dean to finish projects. Hemali helped run and organize
the events. I am excited to give the keys to her. Ask her
about what she has in mind and go from there.
ii. Dhaliwal: what are your future plans?
iii. Hemali: I am working on the syllabi system and
continuing that. We started that this year. And bringing
Bill Nye as well.
iv. Singh: what is an issue faced in your commission?
v. Hemali: I want to say we are working on being fair
amongst everyone in the school system. We had issues
with students with disabilities. Maybe opening up and
representing the students. Moving away from being a
closed commission.
vi. Grewal: what have you learned from your experiences
in this commission?
vii. Hemali: last year during Alan’s term, I did not learn
much. Under Ritesh, I learned to communicate more
and I feel way more confident now. I am more open-
minded. My intentions are to help as many senators as I
can.
viii. Dalavai: you touched on it but Ritesh has a wide
knowledge base. I can easily see you do all those. What
exactly have you learned throughout your time that
would best enable you to continue that?’
ix. Hemali: Being more open-minded and doing what is
best for students without letting my own judgment get
in the way. It is not my own personal gain.
Confirmed
C. GASC – 7:05
i. Garcia: so Allison Tam is by far one of the most
qualified. They came in with a lot of knowledge
already. They have been getting things done and being
more participating. They have shown so much passion.
ii. Dhaliwal: Ivon always provided really good questions
to anybody who presented. They were really vigilant. In
what ways would you make sure you were aware of
what was going on here and around campus? What is
your plan of action?
iii. Tam: Ivon is amazing and always knows what is going
on in campus. One of the most important things about
knowing is being able to connect with different people
especially outside of your group of friends or the people
you feel comfortable with and being abel to listen to
them and being aware that everyone has their own
context of a situation that doesn’t match yours
iv. Dhaliwal: how would you go about addressing an
issue?
v. Tam: one of the good things about being GASC chair is
that it has a lot of reviewing before an event comes up.
When they come to us as a commission; one thing we
need is the courage to speak up and approach someone
say it needs to be changed. And also having the
patience to recognize how to present something and
when you do all you can and something does not
happen
vi. Singh: what is an issue faced by your commission?
vii. Tam: GASC is always on the hustle and looking for
new clubs to collaborate with. As GASC chair next year
funding will be a challenge but I want to be aware of all
the ways we can fund. I want to make sure my
commissioners are working towards that as well
viii. Savage: you gave such a wonderful interview. The
whole time you spoke we just wanted to snap.
Confirmed
D. EPPC will be confirmed in the fall
VII. Consideration of Old Legislation – 7:10
A. SB 87 Mishra
i. Mishra: can you kill the bill? I want to make sure this is
done right. Janice is okay with it. I want to make sure
student judicial affairs and admin can contribute. They
are very responsive to it. If you go into public sector
you have internal controls. The committees set up
investigate certain matters. This is just another measure
made to protect the association. It is there to make sure
if we host an event we are not in danger of breaking
student conduct. We want to make sure individuals of
the events it is internal control. It is to ensure future
tables understand we are students and signed a code of
conduct. To be in this room on this table you must be
student. It is just a layer of protection. I refuse to
introduce a bill unfitting of the rules this table can
confine by. I would like to table both bills. I am leaving
and I do not hedge risk in ASUCD. You all do. I
encourage the next chair to sit down with senators and
include administration in the conversation whether the
president likes it or not. This is a control that senate is
responsible for. This allows table to understand the
events going on in this association. But if something
goes wrong, you can learn from it through this system.
It is meant to allow this table to learn internally how
they can make this better. I would like to withdraw it.
B. SB 91 Wolansky
i. Wolansky: so for the past weeks I have been chairing
marketing committee. There was a meeting week 5 and
we all decided marketing committee should focus on
internal ASUCD events. USA committee would focus
on sponsorships with outside groups. I officially wrote
this out in a bill. It is working out well so far. I talked to
creative media and we removed controller as voting
member. I added B&F chair as voting member to avoid
exec power
ii. Heifetz: we think that marketing is every important
aspect of business and finance. I sat in one of the
meetings and the committee should be aprt of it
Questions in text
i. Flores: strike co-authored by
ii. Dalavai: add period line 1
Public Discussion
iii. DeAngelo; we are splitting marketing. It is not
descriptive. I don’t need to be involved in this. We are
bringing back sponsorship committee and USA will
deal with business development and branding.
Marketing will focus on outreach especially with
elections.
iv. Wolansky: it makes sense to split it up since it is such a
big job.
v. DeAngelo: previous marketing didn’t do business
development they should have because they were too
concerned with internal affairs
Senate Discussion
Question
BILL PASSES
C. SB 92 DeAngelo
i. DeAngelo: this is just a continuation of a previous bill,
getting rid of more assets purchased from Aggie
Threads they will be sold through Aggie Surplus
ii. Heifetz: straightforward
Questions in Text
Public Discussion
i. Chiang: what was one abstain?
ii. Heifetz: basically wanted to see which assets first but
Joe mentioned it would just be like a long annoying
process to do so. Regardless it would go through Aggie
Surplus anyway. They wanted more transparency
iii. DeAngelo; we are constantly finding new items
purchased for Aggie threads. They did it in almost 6
different bills. After we liquidated the printer, we found
more stuff. There is also stuff in senate closet. It allows
Janice and I to go through everything. It is an efficient
way of liquidating all of these assets.
iv. Dalavai: what items are?
v. DeAngelo; I spoke to Paula and senate is continuing to
purchase assets for this unit even when it was closed.
The garment printer never operated and senate
continued to purchase assets for the unit. Some of it
was purchased. This unit is not making money. There is
not really a good record of what was purchased so we
are going off what is in the basement. Items in this
association tend to get lost or stolen over the years.
What is in the record does not correspond to what is in
possession
vi. Dalavai: sounds like an accounting issue
vii. DeAngelo: that is a whole separate issue. We will get
the money and it will go into capital reserves. It has
been sitting there since 2011.
viii. Dalavai: motion to add ‘the’ in line 9
Senate Discussion
Question
BILL PASSES
D. SB 93 DeAngelo
i. DeAngelo: similar to last bill it is to liquidate assets
from CCN. We are going re-appropriate some of the
current assets. The rest of it, Janice described it as
garbage. It is old equipment. The cash register has been
there made out of plastic and will probably go to the
dump. But we are going to see if anything has value.
Questions in Text
ii. Dalavai: add ‘the’
Public Discussion
iii. Dalavai: anything of interest they are selling?
iv. DeAngelo; they have a laminator. To my knowledge
not many. There’s another printer slightly older. I spoke
to Maddie; nothing is of real value. There are tables,
chairs, and a desk. We have to empty out the trailer. It
will disappear regardless. I am just trying to bring
money back
Senate Discussion
BILL PASSES
E. SB 94 – 7:27
i. Sandhu: changing everything from OA to department of
outreach and recruitment
ii. Flores: everything that said OA now says department of
outreach and recruitment and from speaker to secretary
Senate Discussion
BILL PASSES
F. SB #X (94)
BILL PASSES
G. SB #X (96)
Senate Discussion
Question
BILL PASSES
H. Post Office Bill
i. DeAngelo: after gross negligence on post office, I took
on process of going through all the accounts and seeing
if there was any money in them. There is 1300 dollars
in this closed unit so yeah.
Questions in Text
Public Discussion
Senate Discussion
ii. Heifetz: are there any ways to avoid this? This is the
second time we found random money
iii. DeAngelo: ideally do so when you close the unit. So
I’m going through thousands of accounts to see if there
is money sitting in them. There are pockets everywhere
if you think of ASUCD like a coat.
Question
BILL PASSES
VIII. Introduction of New Legislation
i. Sandhu: there is none
IX. Status of Previously Passed Legislation
i. Sandhu: everything has been signed besides BUDS. It
has been vetoed so you can check your inboxes as to
why
BREAK 7:35-7:45
X. Public Discussion
i. Youssef: This bill restores the unit director’s pay for
Whole Earth Festival. I emailed it out to senate listserv.
Pretty much back in the fall Larissa and I both started.
A couple weeks in there was an error in budgeting. We
met a couple times to make changes in our expected
expenses to get enough money to pay ourselves.
Francisco said he put it through legislative process and
we should be good. He told us we don’t need to put it
through legislation so lets just make it so both of you
work in fall and one of you works winter and spring.
We didn’t want to rock the boat but it was pretty
sketchy. WEF took up a lot of our time and we quit our
other jobs. We both did not get paid what we were told
to get. The vacancy doesn’t say how many weeks you
will work. I wrote this bill with Larissa to restore our
pay.
ii. Jammaludin: this is an emergency bill
iii. Sandhu: for all of you, it is on the senate listserv
iv. Youssef: amend WEF budget. They do not state the
weeks for hired individuals. We were notified after we
worked for weeks. After several meetings with
controller the controller said he would put our costs into
the budget. The festival only received 2 applications for
service booths and usually we have 30. We both quit
jobs due to time dedicated to this association. We
would have made different plans if we had known in
advance. This tarnished our reputation with several
service providers. WEF exceeded profits. Both would
like to be paid for the three quarters we completed. Part
of the reason we postponed is to see financial outcome
of our unit. Because we made more than expected and
worked out the 12k savings from Aggie Host, it would
be acceptable to pay ourselves the original amount we
were told we would be paid. It says a start and end date
so it is assumed we would be paid for every week. We
were notified we would get paid each week of work we
would be doing. Our budget can handle it.
v. Larissa: what seems unreasonable is that we were
promised to get paid 2 quarters each by SB 44 they
calculated by weeks of pay so together in WEF we had
45 paid positions including directors. Together that
would be 1/3 weeks pay. That is 12.5% that needed to
be cut. That means 12.87 weeks rounded up would be
13. With the three cut positions, 10 weeks should have
been cut from our pay. Each unit director was paid 30
weeks. That is 25 weeks we should be paid each and we
were being paid 21.
vi. Youssef: that is just the bare minimum by the bylaw.
That is not including the fact we cut three positions.
vii. Larissa: that was before budget hearings. That put more
pressure on us and leaves more money in reserves for
us to get paid
viii. Jamaludin: motion to see senate bill X
Questions in Text
Public Discussion
ix. DeAngelo: I wasn’t controller at the time but I talked to
Francisco. You are looking to amend the budget but it
doesn’t guarantee you would receive pay. It would be a
bill to back pay. I don’t know if your intention is to
remedy the error or receive the compensation. You
would be asking for back pay.
x. Youssef: do we revise this?
xi. DeAngelo; there had been issues where unit directors
had not been paid. We just write a spending bill and
reimburse them. This might suffice. It is up to Jeanette.
xii. Youssef: in fall they still weren’t sure how to pay us so
they put a freeze on us.
xiii. DeAngelo: at budget hearings it was decided both the
directors would be paid 2 quarters and it would be
responsibility of table that time to inform incoming
directors of that. He didn’t see it as his responsibility.
All the weeks were thrown off last year. I redid them
all. When it says you’re going to get paid from weeks
2-52 you can be a volunteer for some weeks. What
senate approved was that they get paid for 2 quarters
each. Is that what you are seeking?
xiv. Larissa: we are asking to get paid out of our reserves in
compliance to SB 44
xv. Youssef: also the other issue, I don’t know if its
Francisco’s fault. If this is what was agreed upon last
year, why did it take so deep in fall quarter for
Francisco to agree to this? I just feel it was a
miscommunication across the board. We were
communicated in our application process that it would
be for the full time excluding breaks.
xvi. DeAngelo: your pay was not increased in 12.5%?
xvii. Youssef: yes but not in amount of weeks
xviii. Dalavai: still trying to figure out the actual issue here.
Your stipend was increased 12.5% the weekly amount
but the amount of weeks were not
xix. Youssef: it was cut down by 1/3
xx. DeAngelo; senate approved you be paid 2 quarters
each. You are hired based on budget approval. That is
the stipulation. Technically we can hire and they can be
under the impression they would get paid so much but
there is no ground because it is pending budget hearing
xxi. Larissa: confusion was caused because they weren’t
sure it would apply to WEF. Their argument was they
were paid independent contracts. During the process it
was approved for 2 quarters. Chris went back and
talked to Francisco and said we were planning to do
independent contracts. Francisco promised he would
talk to HR and ask to restore it somehow. We applied
with that in mind
xxii. DeAngelo: looking at 15-16 approved last years it does
not look like independent contracts.
xxiii. Larissa: this year we were not paid independent
contract but that was not decided until winter quarter
xxiv. Youssef: independent contract has been paying us. We
were told we would get paid for 30 weeks. We made
cuts in our budget in conjunction with Francisco and
made more profit than anticipated. We saved the unit
12k. Can we just get paid the amount we were told we
would get paid in the interviews? We made the money
we needed to pay more and ourselves. I think we did
well as directors. That is enough to pay. If we didn’t do
a good job financially, we would not have brought this
to you. If Francisco knew we would have that pay, why
did he have us make all these cuts and changes? It is
one thing to have senate discussion. For commission
chairs there was a budget hearing and long dialogue to
cut pay. It is another thing to say “sorry you are out of
luck” it is very different than public discussion.
xxv. DeAngelo: we do not pay unit directors based on unit
performance. We pay people pending budget approval
because senate has power of purse. Senate decided to
cut pay so they will not receive compensation. I
recommend we pay based on what was approved by
budget. Anything else would be a disruptive system
xxvi. Larissa: I see where you are coming from but I don’t
understand why they cut 8 more weeks. It is unfair to
us.
xxvii. DeAngelo: that was the point. We can go into 12.5%.
Are you looking to get paid for more than 2 quarters?
xxviii. Youssef: 3 quarters. There’s a couple of issues. In
regards to performance, why did Francisco tell us to cut
expenses and make more income? The only way we
would get paid is to cut service booth fees, etc. The
controller took it there and we did cut. We had to call
vendors and ask them to come back. It almost cut us a
lot of money. Francisco made us cut so we didn’t
choose to do that. It was instigated by the controller of
the time. We changed our budget and quit our personal
jobs.
xxix. Jamaludin: the way I see it are we allowed to amend
budget last year?
xxx. DeAngelo: the budget did close but we can still amend
it
xxxi. Jamaludin: have you been paid according the budget?
You are looking for the additional amount. Do we have
to go this route or can we write a bill to pay it from
their own reserves?
xxxii. Sandhu; yes they want to get paid out of their own
reserves. I don’t know if we can pay out of your own
reserves.
xxxiii. DeAngelo: Unit’s own reserves operate like net. There
isn’t an issue. We would just clarify with Kathy.
Youssef, can you summarize what you are asking for?
xxxiv. Youssef: I want to restore our pay to get paid from Fall
to Spring.
xxxv. DeAngelo: you want 3 quarters each?
xxxvi. Youssef: yes we were told by Janice, Mariah, Chris,
and Francisco we would be paid 3 quarters
xxxvii. DeAngelo: but that is against the system.
xxxviii. Youssef: we were not notified in the interview process.
I feel since we did financially successful and we cut to
pay ourselves, we should have access to that money for
the work we put in. We did well and we deserve to get
paid for what we did.
xxxix. Singh: there was miscommunication. You were told to
cut costs and you did. You were cautious to make those
cuts. I think you should get paid. Because you took
initiative to cut the costs. I’m going to divide the house
xl. DeAngelo: I would strongly encourage senate not to do
this. This budget passed and now we are manipulated
this based on heresy.
xli. Martinez: I heard they signed the contract. Did they
sign for 2 quarters?
xlii. DeAngelo; they are paid for senate approval. They are
pending budget approval
xliii. Youssef: we were never informed of that
xliv. DeAngelo: it didn’t say that in our vacancy posting. If
you just look it says pending budget approval. It says it
on the front screen posting.
xlv. Youssef: there’s nothing on our specific posting.
xlvi. Sandhu: Did you talk to Janice?
xlvii. Youssef: throughout the fall, she said to work with
Francisco to make cuts and we did. We talked to
Mariah and Janice. She will ask us about it.
xlviii. DeAngelo: it isn’t prudent to make a decision base don
what other people said. We are not going to site other
people. No one can confirm any of this
xlix. Youssef: Fact, the vacancy posting did not say it back
then. Fact, we made cuts to our budget and changed our
service booth model
l. Dhaliwal: I was there when we wrote the budget and
the plan was because you are hired later you would not
be working in the fall, which is why they decided to
make your pay in winter and spring. I know this isn’t
offense to you but when you close a budget and if they
didn’t pay you then it was for a reason. Do not make
this a precedent. I think now if the money is in their
reserves, let us give it to them. I know there was a
decision not to pay you. That is my only concern. I do
think you should be paid. Did you do work in the fall?
li. Youssef: we did interviews throughout the quarter. We
did for a good portion.
lii. Dhaliwal; that is reason to pay them. We are talking
about something at the end of the year
liii. DeAngelo: senate approved a different amount. We are
paid based on what senate approves.
liv. Dhaliwal: that was a different table, you have a new
one now
lv. Dalavai: can we pay them, Joe?
lvi. DeAngelo: not 100% sure but I don’t see an issue with
it. They are not paid out of net
lvii. Youssef: we have paid people out of reserves before
lviii. Dalavai; so it can be done. I think moving forward,
addressing lack of communication. I think this one time
it is okay to give it out of reserves and moving forward
we just make sure it does not happen again.
lix. Youssef: it won’t happen again because Joe reformed
the weeks. Joe standardized the weeks of pay so I don’t
think they will happen again
lx. Dalavai: motion to senate discussion
Senate Discussion
i. Martinez: Motion to call this bill into question
ii. Dalavai: Objection
iii. Withdrawn
iv. DeAngelo: most of us are hearing this for the first time.
I recommend to wait on this matter to make an
informed decision. I can get more information. It is my
first time. I will work with you. We can get this
resolved. This is senate’s last meeting. If it was an error
it is one thing but getting paid another quarter its
different
v. Sandhu: if it is something you want to be paid out of
your own OP that is fall quarter
vi. Youssef: I don’t even know if we will be around in the
fall
vii. DeAngelo: I strongly suggest waiting
viii. Jamaludin: you’ve waited since Fall. Can you wait?
ix. Youssef: I prefer not to. I am applying to peace core
x. Sandhu: why is this coming week 10?
xi. Youssef: I talked to Roman and other senators and Josh
in the past. I was so delayed because the festival and
BUDs. I just got backed up
xii. Sandhu; those people are not as informed as Joe. In
terms of bringing it up to Janice to get her confirmation.
It would be a different conversation. You put us into a
tight spot between making an uninformed decision now
and an informed decision later.
xiii. Jamaludin: I think Abhay made a good point. If you
wait for the Fall it would be very helpful
xiv. Youssef: could we add a clause that when Janice
approves it, it is okay?
xv. Jamaludin: if we had time to do that before. Now
attaching that is saying we were not careful
xvi. DeAngelo: I am sorry you waited this long but I
encourage senate to wait and make an informed
decision. There might be a tendency to rush into things
and we do not want to make a mistake.
xvii. Savage: If there are no more meetings, we should just
pass this. I don’t know if you all will be here in the
summer. I feel like this could help. Is there a way to
make this void?
xviii. Sandhu: I recommend passing this and then if Janice
does not approve, Alex can veto it
BILL PASSES
BUDS – 8:45
i. Youssef: I am trying to repeal that veto.
ii. Sandhu: to overturn president’s veto. We would bring
that bill and if senate passes 2/3 vote, the president’s
veto gets overturned
iii. Chiang: 8-0-4 does that mean the 2/3 votes is out of 12
or 10?
iv. Sandhu: 2/3 of quorum present
v. Youssef: yeah I want to do that
vi. Sandhu: we are going into author’s comments and we
all know what the bill is about. We will take a vote. We
have 10 senators present so we need 7 yeses.
vii. Youssef: could you read Alex’s veto?
viii. Sandhu: look at the veto sent in senate listserv. It is
titled Veto Message SB 45.
ix. Youssef: main issues were unconstitutional legislative
authority and governance
x. Dalavai: It is a bit shaky at first. I get the essence. The
bylaw sited 604A and I concerning unit manager
responsibilities. Small issues altogether, rather than
relying.
xi. Youssef: the language he sited isn’t in bylaws but in the
background
xii. Dalavai: the units want to solve issues together rather
than relying on senate of SSO. The word relying does
not mean the parties are not stripped of their powers. It
is a separate body to address separate issues. The
opposition isn’t to what the bylaws state. It does not
create power. It is just a formally recognized entity for
units. The bylaws stated are not being violated which is
an important point to make for the first objection of this
veto.
xiii. Dhaliwal: I agree with Josh. I am looking over last part
of email. It talks how this bill would restructure current
bylaws and I do not think that is true. BUDs are
separate in its entirety. I think it is just creating this in
legislation is different. In essence they are just meeting
together to discuss issues. By all means, invite senate
and the president. It is just an opportunity for unit
directors to have a meeting, not necessarily take
anyone’s power.
xiv. Youssef: he says the unit director is responsible for
overall soundness of the unit. Units should be working
together. And now units want to collaborate and it is
shut down. In regards to what Shai was saying, I heard
tis argument a lot. This doesn’t exist so we can’t have
it. That is poor argument. The reason we need it is
because there is nothing like it. That is the problem. We
do not have a place to collaborate.
xv. Dalavai: where bylaw 800B is referenced, the ASUCD
business manager who will provide information. The
ASUCD manager is not being stripped of that power.
There are no teeth here. BUDs can bring something to
senate and we don’t have to do anything with it. BUDs
have no power. You literally have nothing. Moving on
into final part, which is SB45. That is not even an ex-
officio rule. The fact that the constitution he brings up
concerning ASUCD legislative authority; that does not
change. I cannot stress that fat enough. If I said
anything incorrect call me out.
xvi. Youssef: it is not embedded in constitution and it does
not formally recommend legislation. It is like any other
body on campus. What if a club comes in here and
recommends something, should we dismiss then
because they are not part of the legislative process? The
only people who can talk about legislative come from
subordinate bodies and I find that very scary. Our job in
our bylaws makes senate jobs harder. This whole idea
that only senate can talk about legislation is scary.
xvii. Chiang: I think I would be more comfortable; a lot of
Alex’s issues can be resolved if Janice sat in on these
meetings. The unit director meeting is still
accomplished.
xviii. Youssef: it has been months now and has Janice talked
to any of you about this? It’s been a good amount of
time for Janice to bring some dialogue.
xix. Chiang: this is important but for Janice a lot of work
she does is putting out immediate things. She may not
have time to come out this. So asking her to make sure
it is compliant is on all of us. That is why I voted no
and I still wouldn’t this time around. I like the idea and
if Janice sat on it, it can quell a lot of fears.
xx. Dalavai: what specifically did you think Janice needed
to be here? None of her authority is stripped. What is
being abused?
xxi. Chiang: in the first bylaw-sited 604A, unit manager is
responsible for maintaining soundness of unit. There
can be a lot of heresy that can be perpetuated in
discussion so it would mitigate that type. Unit directors
might not know what is best for business practices.
Janice would voice that.
xxii. Dalavai: that is valid. Let us say a poor business
practice was recommended, would they be able to enact
it? Let us say a bad idea is perpetuated. How much can
they actually do about it?
xxiii. DeAngelo: unit directors have unilateral power over
their unit. That is why we see units up one year and
down the next. They have a lot of control.
xxiv. Youssef: the meetings are public; anyone can come by.
They are not closed door where heresy can occur. Unit
directors probably have most oversight over entire
association. Did any of you submit job applications to
Janice? All of you ran, the student body selected you.
We go through a hiring panel and have business
manager meetings. With WEF, we meet with fire/police
departments
xxv. Dalavai: the table is aware; can you speak more to the
fact that if a poor idea is perpetuated it has the ability to
disrupt the unit?
xxvi. Youssef: in the charter they can schedule for meetings.
The representative has to come every week. There will
be consistent dialogue. If adopted senator system
worked better, it can be improved. If you meet with
your unit every week you can mention “hey I talked
about this at BUDs last week’ if adopted senator system
worked better and the minutes can be reviewed. There
is a lot of oversight.
xxvii. Sandhu: we had this discussion many times. I
appreciate your persistence. Let us come to the table
and discuss the unit director class. It is a perfect happy
medium. You and Janice get what you want to an
extent. You said there is a set schedule and Janice is
more than willing to put aside half an hour at the end of
her presentations and allow unit directors to discuss and
collaborate. She is willing to do that. There is no need
for a senate bill. Unit directors are not required to
attend it; it would be difficult for them to be centralized
by BUDS whereas that class is mandated. I would
suggest going that route.
xxviii. Youssef: one thing the class has been going on for three
quarters. Has any collaboration come of that class?
xxix. Sandhu: there is no time for collaboration but now she
will allocate time for that collaborative environment
xxx. Youssef: I talked about it in the class
xxxi. Larissa: last class I had a conversation with her. I said I
do not know why I am here, WEF is over. We had to
come up with these on our own. It does not help us.
There is 4 people in that class and that is CCE which is
in our building anyway. Janice is trying to open it up
but it doesn’t work for everyone. BUDs is meant to be
for everyone
xxxii. Youssef: it can be unit director or a representative. The
class has to be unit directors.
xxxiii. DeAngelo: one of the problems I had is what is a
board? Boards are not defined in bylaws
xxxiv. Youssef: media board is a board
xxxv. DeAngelo: that is an admin advisory committee. This is
an informal entity. We don’t have definitive. Nothing is
enumerated in the bylaws to what this is. Why not make
it a permanent committee instead of creating a
conflicting new entity.
xxxvi. Youssef; there is nothing like this
xxxvii. DeAngelo: you didn’t define board
xxxviii. Youssef: that is just semantics
xxxix. DeAngelo: does anyone not see a problem creating
some entity in a framework that does not exist?
xl. Youssef: the reason why we need to make this is
because it doesn’t exist. It is not a great argument
xli. DeAngelo: define what a board is
xlii. Youssef: BUDs explains what it is. How many people
do not know what BUDs is? That’s what I thought. I
still don’t see grounds for argument. Unit directors are
responsible for soundness of the units. If something
goes bad, the unit catches the slack. We are ultimately
responsible according to bylaws and we collectively try
to create something. Where is the issue here? Is it just
that people do not like it? Training became a problem
and we fixed it. Then UCOP, not this. There is this
general persistence of something being dug up and
stretched out. What is the huge problem? Oversight is a
bad argument. If you want to say it’ll lead to bad
business practices, I do not agree. BUDs has been on
the table, I was talking to members of the last senate
about this. This has been around and Janice has been
involved.
xliii. Dhaliwal: we should talk the time to realize that maybe
the reason units do so bad is because the can’t
collaborate with our better working units. I get help
from my fellow senators. I don’t think this is taking
power away from anyone. I know that is Alex’s biggest
concern. It takes away role of senators and being their
adopted senators but honestly the GM for KDVS is
more knowledgeable on units than I would be. She
advises me on her own unit. KDVS works with WEF I
think making the conversation easier for them is a good
thing and would only help us in the long run. If need be,
put it in the bill that you don’t meet unless she’s present
of the president in there.
xliv. Youssef: I’m willing to do that as long as they can’t
vote. I want them to be able o meet even if Alex or
Janice can’t name. I don’t want them to have power
over that
xlv. Dhaliwal: to avoid all issues is to just not meet unless
one can make it. The issue is giving them information
that may be something against bylaws. In terms of risk
management, it would be an advantage to you to avoid
conflict.
xlvi. Youssef: Janice isn’t here are we violating every week
and destroying bylaws with risks? I don’t think at the
end of the day we are adults. We should be able to sit in
a room and talk without someone watching over us.
What non-student is here? Using that same logic, I
don’t necessarily think we will destroy UCOP policies
without her present. How many times does she come to
senate?
xlvii. Dalavai: the fact that next year, the unit director is still
getting paid right? Unit directors get paid and we are
not. Perhaps we don’t have to dive but you can argue
they are more important than we are. The potential for
heresy and bad advice exists but no more than it does at
this table. We made a hasty vote on Nishi last quarter.
Things like that happen so the issues brought up are
valued but if we are going to try to prescribe or remedy
then we have to do it here too. Janice has to be here.
With that being said, issues exist. The reasons we are
here financially are the decisions of the past.
xlviii. DeAngelo: that had to do with the units
xlix. Youssef: Doesn’t president and business manager
oversee the units?
l. Miles: I was a senator four years ago. Our table fucked
you guys over. Every single time there was no critical
thought to where money was spent. There are
disparities that make no sense. So is it absolutely the
senate’s responsibility? I was the only one to meet with
units. If you senators don’t do the same thing. Talk to
adopted units and defend every line. Everyone wanted
to talk about ethnic grads and house boats, it was the
senate’s fault.
li. Savage: I agree with what Josh said. There is no
supervision for us here. I think wreck fewer decisions
are made. In order to implement them we do have to
talk to Janice. I don’t remember but I’m sure there will
be someone taking notes. Can the chair definitely check
in with Janice? Or just an email.
lii. Youssef: because it is only unit directors we all
inherently are required to meet with all of you. When
we had an advisor we met with Janice every week
liii. Savage: does one nit director meet every week?
liv. Sandhu: they do not have to meet with her. Usually
when something goes wrong, they meet with her
lv. Savage; so pretty regularly. I think if those notes are
sent ahead of time, risk management can be CCed as
well. We don’t go through risk management for
anything. Given it is a new committee, I think if we did
that I don’t foresee problems with it.
lvi. Jamaludin: all these things outlined in BUDs can be
done without BUDs? You can discuss and collaborate
lvii. Youssef: the first time I came here
lviii. Jamaludin: can all these things be done?
lix. Youssef: by having it in bylaws, it means all unit
directors were notified in some shape or form. I can
come to senate and be like
lx. Savage: Janice said we can’t have unit directors
meeting in a room somewhere. They can’t control that.
If they don’t like this bill but given it is in bylaws it will
be better than
lxi. Miles: unit directors can talk in private, it is just the
senators that can’t. unit directors are allowed to collude
any time they want
lxii. Jamaludin: Motion to Senate Discussion
lxiii. Youssef: my main point is that BUDs would be where
unit directors talk about it whereas if we decide we hate
SB45 and I come here and there’s no official BUDS
and I just make the proclamation and you guys question
if its heresy and who was there. If BUDS chair comes
in, they can say hey we were talking about this and xy
unit says this and yz unit says that. It gives units a
collective voice.
lxiv. Dalavai: BUDs has no teeth and potential for heresy
exists just as much as it does in this table
Motion to Override Veto
PASSES
XI. Coffee Closet Unit
i. DeAngelo; this is the new service I mentioned earlier.
They will call it the Coffee Board. That was a joke. We
are taking the assets that are still functional from CCN.
We are repurposing them. I wanted to give senate an
outline of the service before we incorporate it into the
budget. Currently the senate closet is full of crap. It is
sprinklered. We can have machinery functional in the
closet. The copier we will use is image runner advance
8085. It is from 2010. It is 534 pounds, 9 feet long.
SGO will solely operate it. Units won’t enter the room.
They can detail what they want done. If unit comes
requesting immediacy, there will be 2 hours of that.
Everything else will be done the next done. It will be
staffed by SGO who will be paid hourly. The service
will only operate Monday-Thursday. We will send all
of senate agendas. We print about 1750 per month. Our
association will be all recharges. It will be analogous to
CCN operations. Projected income will be 1600 taking
CCN pricing model. Expenses will be 1344 which is
likely a break even unit. 17 a month for ink 10 for
paper. It is now reflected in president’s proposed
budget. I encourage everyone to pass the president’s
column so we can institute this change.
ii. Savage: do units pay for the copies?
iii. DeAngelo: yes it is cheaper than downtown or
university. This would 8 cents for black and white and
50 cents for color
iv. Wolansky: HAUS stores a lot of stuff in there
v. DeAngelo: it will go to room 5 basement
vi. Savage: for that closet, I don’t even know where that is.
Do we have access to that? Maybe some stuff can be
potentially used for units?
vii. DeAngelo: no you don’t have permission. There are
like cases of water
viii. Miles: it was cleaned in 2013 and the senate office was
disgusted. People slept in there, did funny business in
there. It is mostly old senate documents not digitalized.
ix. DeAngelo: there’s also financial records to be boxed
and taken to more secure location
x. Savage: are there plans to go through that? I’d like to
go through it and see if I can take anything personally
in reference to senate or OASR
xi. DeAngelo; there’s file cabinets, there is nothing of
immediate value
xii. Aboussa: in those metal cabinets there are old
legislation OASR can take on
xiii. Savage: when is the last time someone cleaned out the
basement?
xiv. DeAngelo: Janice can let you into that
xv. Wolanksy; it was cleaned in the last summer. Everyone
has access to it, just ask the office. A lot of stuff is
reusable like candy or old posters and documentation.
We should carefully look through it.
xvi. DeAngelo; eventually ERSAC will make the decision.
xvii. Aboussa: compared to rates in downtown how does this
stack up? Don’t units get discounted through
CopyLand?
xviii. DeAngelo: CCN is still cheaper. Not everything can be
printed using this. Certain jobs won’t be printed but this
is for internal purposes. It is taking same rates and
reusing it.
XII. ASUCD Budget – 9:43
XV. Appointments and Confirmations: OASR-10:51
i. Sandhu: she has been working in this office for quite a
while. We were impressed with 17 paged report, you
will be dearly missed as senator but we believe you will
thrive in your new position
ii. Jamaludin: what are your plans?
iii. Savage: abhay was referring to my proposal for next
year. I want to work with EAC. Sarah and I talked
about this. We want to work more with the city. Rental
ordinance passed creating database to see landlords
who haven’t fixed things or stole deposits. This would
create mediator. The city would provide mediating
services. The increase in students is also considered.
With this influx and not a lot of housing availability
they talked about rent control and working with the
city. We don’t have connections with local city so
getting students on those commission’s especially low-
income commissions. I also want to work on federal
advocacy trip to DC. We are one of the only schools
that do not have that. I also want us more involved with
UC student association and having board positions.
Other campuses hold summits such as like UCI with
mental health, davis hasn’t done that very much. I
would love for us to go to things like. Davis has the
best pantry on UC level so I think it would be
appropriate to hold a food security conference of sorts.
Davis can provide income there as well. I also think in
addition to that the act. We talked to USC who was one
of the first to implement that. It is a big year for voting
so I have ideas for voting registration. We got 150
people registered to vote this year. With relating to city
affairs we can get students voting in that as well. It
would be a good time for building connections as well.
iv. Dhaliwal: you were a great pro tempore, why OASR
and why would that help you more versus senate?
v. Savage: I think I was most qualified. I had the most
experience and ideas moving forward. I gave this a lot
of thought. I was really back and forth. Senate I would
only have for a quarter and I can do a lot more in a year
and more work needs to be done with OASR. Why
don’t we have elections? We are not at that point yet.
These other schools have elections. Berkeley 80% of
population votes. We are talking sexual assault, housing
affordability, and food security. These are things we
need to work on before you can even be a student.
There are a lot of issues we need to deal with. I can do
that better as OASR director.
vi. Dalavai: when do you see us at the point to be at
voting?
vii. Savage; I don’t think we should do elections.
Problematic people have been elected in USA meaning
anyone can run for it. As a whole, I think UC Davis has
the worst voter turn out. The person who lost only lost
by 600 votes. That’s what they say at UCLA. Most
people here didn’t even get 600 votes. I don’t think we
will be at that point.
viii. Dalavai: we will miss you pro tempore
CONFIRMED
XII. Pro Tempore Elections – 11:00
Nominate Jamaludin
Nominate Dalavai
Jamaludin accepts
XII. Ex-Officio Reports
A. Sam Park
a) Held office hours Tuesday
b) TRAVC met today to discuss about their future plans
c) Will be opening job applications
XIII. Public Discussion
i. DeAngelo: surplus is 17911, this will slide back to net
revenue
ii. Sandhu: introduce bill as emergency legislation
authored by Ingle. The only piece of legislation the
president gets to introduce is this bill. So authored by
Lee.
iii. DeAngelo: we estimated the service fee at 25,000 as
asked by Janice. Technically the subsidy is more than
that but we can change that at another time
iv. Sandhu: congratulations we have a budget. Thank you
Joe.
Senate Discussion
MOTION TO PASS THE BILL
BILL PASSES
i. Dalavai: Motion to Adjourn
Adjournment – 11:03