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1/10/2015 Brains Sweep Themselves Clean Of Toxins During Sleep : Shots Health News : NPR http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=236211811 1/3 ỳǿųř ħěǻŀțħ țřěǻțměňțș & țěșțș ħěǻŀțħ įňč. pǿŀįčỳ-įșħ pųbŀįč ħěǻŀțħ < Břǻįňș Șẅěěp Țħěmșěŀvěș Čŀěǻň Ǿf Țǿxįňș Đųřįňģ Șŀěěp ǾČȚǾBĚŘ 17, 2013 4:59 PM ĚȚ Copyright ©2013 NPR. For personal, noncommercial use only. See Terms of Use. For other uses, prior permission required. ROBERT SIEGEL, HOST: The question of why people and animals need sleep has bothered scientists for decades. And now, researchers think that they've found at least part of the answer. NPR's Jon Hamilton reports on a study that shows that during sleep, the brain flushes out toxins, including a substance linked to Alzheimer's disease. JON HAMIILTON, BYLINE: From an evolutionary point of view, sleep seems like a bad idea. After all, when you're snoozing, it's easy for another creature to remove you from the gene pool. That's especially true if you're a small rodent, says the University of Rochester's Maiken Nedergaard. DR. MAIKEN NEDERGAARD: For a animal like a mouse or rat, it's very dangerous to sleep because it's much more vulnerable for cats that would come and eat it. JON HAMILTON, BYLINE: So sleep must have some really important survival function. To find out what that might be, Nedergaard led a team that studied the brains of sleeping mice. And the scientists noticed that during sleep, something odd was happening to the system that circulates cerebrospinal fluid through the brain and nervous system.

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    Thequestionofwhypeopleandanimalsneedsleephasbotheredscientistsfordecades.Andnow,researchersthinkthatthey'vefoundatleastpartoftheanswer.NPR'sJonHamiltonreportsonastudythatshowsthatduringsleep,thebrainflushesouttoxins,includingasubstancelinkedtoAlzheimer'sdisease.

    JONHAMIILTON,BYLINE:Fromanevolutionarypointofview,sleepseemslikeabadidea.Afterall,whenyou'resnoozing,it'seasyforanothercreaturetoremoveyoufromthegenepool.That'sespeciallytrueifyou'reasmallrodent,saystheUniversityofRochester'sMaikenNedergaard.

    DR.MAIKENNEDERGAARD:Foraanimallikeamouseorrat,it'sverydangeroustosleepbecauseit'smuchmorevulnerableforcatsthatwouldcomeandeatit.

    JONHAMILTON,BYLINE:Sosleepmusthavesomereallyimportantsurvivalfunction.Tofindoutwhatthatmightbe,Nedergaardledateamthatstudiedthebrainsofsleepingmice.Andthescientistsnoticedthatduringsleep,somethingoddwashappeningtothesystemthatcirculatescerebrospinalfluidthroughthebrainandnervoussystem.

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    NEDERGAARD:Itwaspumpingfluidintothebrainandremovingfluidfromthebraininaveryrapidpace.

    HAMILTON:Nedergaardsaystheteamrealizedthiswaspossibleinpartbecausewhenmicewenttosleep,theirbraincellsactuallyshrank,soitwaseasierforfluidtocirculate.Whenananimalwokeup,shesays,thebraincellsenlargedagainandtheflowbetweencellsslowedtoatrickle.

    NEDERGAARD:It'salmostlikeopeningandclosingafaucet.It'sthatdramatic.

    HAMILTON:Nedergaardandherteamhadpreviouslyshownthatthefluidwascarryingawaywasteproductsthatbuildupinthespacesbetweencells.

    NEDERGAARD:It'slikeadishwasher.It'sfloatingbyallthecells,whicharethedishes,andwashingthem.

    HAMILTON:That'simportantbecausewhat'sgettingwashedawayduringsleeparewasteproteinsthataretoxictobraincells.Nedergaardsaysthisprocesscouldexplainwhywedon'tthinkclearlyafterasleeplessnightandwhyaprolongedlackofsleepcanactuallykillananimaloraperson.Butwhydoesn'tthebraindothissortofhousekeepingallthetime?Nedergaardthinksit'sbecausecleaningtakesalotofenergy.

    NEDERGAARD:It'sprobablynotpossibleforthebraintobothcleanitselfandatthesametimebeingawareofthesurroundingsandtalkandmoveandsoon.

    HAMILTON:Andthatwouldexplainwhyanimalshaveevolvedtoneedsleep.Nedergaardsaysthecleaningprocesshasbeenobservedinratsandbaboonsbutnotyetinhumans.Evenso,itcouldofferanewwayofunderstandinghumanbraindiseases,includingAlzheimer's.That'sbecauseoneofthewasteproductsremovedfromthebrainduringsleepisbetaamyloid,thesubstancethatformsstickyplaquesassociatedwithAlzheimer's.Nedergaardsaysthat'sprobablynotacoincidence.

    NEDERGAARD:Isn'titinterestingthatAlzheimerandallotherdiseasesassociated

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    withdementia,theyarelinkedtosleepdisorders.Sothepatientwouldsleeplessandlessandtheywouldnothavedeepsleep.

    HAMILTON:ResearcherswhostudyAlzheimer'ssayNedergaard'sresearchcouldhelpexplainanumberofrecentfindingsrelatedtosleep.RandallBatemanofWashingtonUniversityinSt.LouiswaspartofateamthatstudiedhowsleepaffectslevelsofthatAlzheimer'sprotein,betaamyloid.

    DR.RANDALLBATEMAN:Betaamyloidconcentrationscontinuetoincreasewhileapersonisawake.Andthenafterpeoplegotosleep,thatconcentrationofbetaamyloiddecreases.Thisreportprovidesabeautifulmechanismbywhichthismaybehappening.

    HAMILTON:BatemansaysthereportalsooffersatantalizinghintofanewapproachtoAlzheimer'sprevention.

    BATEMAN:ItdoesraisethepossibilitythatonemightbeabletoactuallycontrolsleepinawaytoimprovetheclearanceofbetaamyloidandhelppreventamyloidosisthatwethinkcanleadtoAlzheimer'sdisease.

    HAMILTON:ThenewresearchappearsinthejournalScience.JonHamilton,NPRNews.

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