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Nancy Desjardins’Interview with Dr. Brian Clement

“Change Your Lifestyle, Lengthen Your Lifespan” ____________________________________________________________

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Nancy Desjardins: Hello, everyone. This is Nancy Desjardins from

www.HealthLady.com. Thanks for joining us this afternoon. Today I have the privilege

to have the co-director of the Hippocrates Health Institute in West Palm Beach, Florida.It’s Dr. Brian Clement. In his role as a progressive educator, Brian has conductedcountless seminars, lectures and educational programs.

He has traveled extensively to more than 25 countries around the globe. Brian has also written numerous books in which he explores the various aspects of health, spirituality and natural healing. His recent bestselling book is Hippocrates LifeForce: Superior Health and Longevity. You can also get a copy at one of those lectures in Toronto andGeorgetown.

Hippocrates Health Institute’s Life Change Program is a three week detoxification and

cleansing process that is recognized worldwide as a Hippocrates signature program. I’mproud to say that I had an amazing experience during my three-week Life ChangeProgram two years ago. Dr. Brian Clement has spent more than three decades studyingnutrition and natural healthcare. He has received graduate degrees in both NaturopathicCare Medicine and Nutritional Science. Brian, thanks for joining us today, and welcome.

Dr. Brian Clement: It’s nice to be here with all of you.

Nancy Desjardins: Thank you. Brian, at one point in your life you were 240 poundsand smoked three packs of cigarettes a day, which is very hard to believe.

Dr. Brian Clement: I’ll tell you, that was my brain-dead period.

Nancy Desjardins: Let me add something. Your favorite thing was to hang out in anightclub where you were a jazz drummer. The reason why I want to mention this is because many people ask me, “Was Brian always into this living food lifestyle?” Theanswer is…

Dr. Brian Clement: No. As a matter of fact, I think most people—and I’m surethose listening today—had to be provoked into making changes. There have been very few of us—other than our children, possibly; my four children and a few others who Iknow around the world—who were brought up in families who were doing this. My parents, thank God, loved me. They were good parents.

However, they didn’t know any better because they were conditioned and programmedthe same way all of us were. We were trained consumers. In North America, that’s whatthey do. From the time you’re in the womb they tell you what to buy and what you wantand what’s hip and what’s not hip. We get caught up into that whole cycle. Before I knew it, I was seriously overweight, before it was fashionable to be overweight.





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They didn’t know what to say to me. They called me ‘big’; and since I was a man, thatdidn’t sound too bad. Then one day I woke up and realized as I was walking up astairway that every three steps I’d have to stop and gasp for air. This wasn’t quite right.

Thank goodness, around the same time that I had that very slight revelation, my girlfriend’s best friend’s boyfriend was a vegetarian. We were 20 and he was 30.

I immediately thought that he must be a homosexual because when I was growing up inmy generation, men and meat were synonymous. I was actually formerly taught thatmanhood depended upon meat consumption. He was really weird because he did yoga. Ihad never heard of yoga. I grew up in the New York City area. He stood on his head anddidn’t eat animals, and was very smart.

He sounded like a prophet. When you’re 20 and somebody is 30, they sound remarkably intelligent and wise. One day when he saw me hugging and kissing my dogs and loving

them up, he said, “You like animals.” I said, “Of course.” As a matter of fact, he said tome, “You’re eating them.” That may sound a little odd to us now as grown adults, but ithit me over the head.

I thought these red objects in cellophane that I was getting from grocery storesobviously were something other than an animal. With one fell swoop, I became a vegetarian. It was for moral reasons. I started to feel different. I started to feel very oddand very weird. I felt my compassion for the first time. I then started to learn. Thank goodness, the first mentor who came into my life was a woman who had healed 30 yearsearlier catastrophic cancer.

She said, “You’re in school for science, and you better start studying nutrition becausethat’s what you should do for the rest of your life.” Being a product of thecounterculture, 60s revolution generation, she said all the right things. She said, “You’renot going to make money.” That was good because money was a bad thing for us.“You’re going to help people.” Boy, did we want to do that!

“You’re going to work very long hours.” It was mission oriented. I started to prepare to work in this field. I said, “Where should I work?” She said, “You have to go out andteach.” When I started that after the university, I was shocked when 10 people wouldshow up at a lecture. I drove from coast to coast, from Vancouver to the easternprovinces and from California to Florida. Five or 10 people would show up at a lecture.

I would have tears in my eyes. Then back in the early to mid 70s, I visited theHippocrates Health Institute and was asked to join the staff. I was sent over to Europe by the mid 70s and ran and developed centers and brought the living food message back to Europe. I came back in 1980 and was asked to be director of Hippocrates. That wasalmost 30 years ago now.

We were located in Boston, Massachusetts then. We were the first and foremost livingfood center in North America. By the way, the oldest one left. I had the privilege back in





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1976 for a year to direct the original living food center, where the words ‘living food’came from. That was founded back in the early part of the 20th Century by a medicaldoctor named Dr. Kristine Nolfi.

This doctor healed herself of catastrophic breast cancer with raw foods. In a nutshell,that’s what I did. That’s where I came from. I never looked back. I’m blessed that I cango out and teach this and do this work.

Nancy Desjardins: The rest is really history. Brian, the goal is to eat 100% organicand 100% vegan. There are a lot of theories and philosophies out there in the living foodfield today. Not everyone is ready to go to that extreme. What would you say to those who are not ready to make this commitment?

Dr. Brian Clement: Let’s talk about the landscape and who’s out there listening,

and your relatives, friends and people in your community. There are people who are very ill. They may have cancer. They may have multiple sclerosis or Lou Gehrig’s Disease(ALS) or Parkinson’s disease. They may have HIV. These people have to immediately embrace 100% lifestyle.

I say that not from of a philosophical point of view, but a scientific point of view. Overthe 53 years has Hippocrates existed, we learned that every single person who healed acatastrophic disease for at least a two-year period went on a 100% raw food diet thatconsisted not of fruits or blended foods, but of raw, green juices, green foods, sproutsand some sprouted nuts and sprouted seeds.

That’s what we know have healed the tens of thousands of people who have come to usover the years. The good news is that over the last 15 to 20 years, there’s an ever-growing group of people, as you know, who come to us and want to prevent prematureaging and want to feel better; or are athletes and want to do better in that, or better in whatever they are doing in life.

To those people, obviously, we don’t have to say, “You have to be 100% raw.” We didsome work when we were still in Boston. We used the MIT laboratories and TuftsUniversity laboratories. We discovered that after a person gets his immune systemstable—and that’s how we determine if a person is healthy or not, by the way; it’s notmysticism where we use a crystal—we actually look at the differentials in medical bloodtests and darkfield analysis, microscopic testing.

When we see the differentials—the eosinophils, basophils, neutrocytes, granocytes, andlymphocytes—that are fully functional for a long period of time, we know that thatperson’s health is stable. We know that their immune system is not fighting a microbe ormutagenic cancer. Now we can say to them, “You can eat a little bit of cooked veganfood.”





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We actually figured out that those stable, immunological systems could eat up to 20% to25% cooked food by weight—by weight, not by imagination—of their diet and stillmaintain perfectly fine health; not those who are fighting a disease, but those who have

fought the disease and now healed or never had a major disease to deal with. That can be steamed vegetables and some of the alkaline sprouted grains that you may want tocook.

It is things of that nature. That makes it a lot easier for people. I remember the days when we used to tell people, “For the rest of your life you must be 100% raw.” It was likea fanatical religion. We would even tell that to the people who were dying of diseases.Some would think, “I don’t know if I can handle that. Maybe I’ll die instead of doingthat.” However, when you get well, or after you do this initial cleansing, you can eat 10%or 20% cooked food as long as it’s vegan, clean and by weight.

That means for every 10 pounds of food, you can eat two or two-and-a-half pounds of cooked food. It’s easy to do. Let me give you an example. If you have a green juice madeup of cucumbers, celery, parsley and sprouts in a 16-ounce glass, that is literally onepound of raw food. That’s a lot of raw food. By the way, it is packed with nutrition if you juice it and drink it immediately before it oxidizes.

You are literally getting spectacularly high levels of nutrients: phytochemicals, vitamins,minerals, proteins, and trace minerals. The more important things in the raw foods arethe hormones, oxygen, phytochemicals and enzymes. This is what prevents the agingprocess and heals the diseases like cancer and viral diseases. This is a lot of raw food. You could eat a moderately sized salad; let’s say half a pound.

Now you’re at a pound and a half of raw food. You could literally eat a quarter of apound if you’re older, and up to a half a pound if you’re younger and more active, of steamed vegetables, cooked millet, or something of that nature. That’s doable. I don’tknow anyone, if you said that to them, who couldn’t adhere to that or achieve it. The biggest problem for those out there listening—and I know this firsthand—is that we’readdicts.

The reason why the raw food people quite often overindulge in sugar is because they don’t want to admit they’re addicts. They give up white sugar. The wiser, moreintelligent and educated ones give up honey. They give up maple syrup. Then they go toagave syrup. They eat 10 mangos at a sitting, or a 20-pound watermelon. You’re getting your fix. It’s still dope. The new big thing is coconut oil. They’re eating bottles.

I understand this. In the early days, if these things were available in the northeast whenI was starting this, I’m sure I would have eaten a pound of that a day. The truth of thematter is you have to come to a conclusion just like an alcoholic or a drug addict: “I’m anaddict. I’m still going after the sugar and the fats.” That’s still an addictive, lessconscious way of looking at food.





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The more conscious and appropriate way is as you change—and it may take years to dothis; I know it did me because I was brain dead, basically—you then want to get food to be the fuel. It fuels a happy, healthy, productive and conscious life. That’s what our

whole objective should be.

Nancy Desjardins: Going back to the juicing, you recommend fasting for 24 hoursonce a week. You have a good fasting plan in your book, LifeForce. I believe it’s on page38. Could you explain the reason?

Dr. Brian Clement: One of my first influences was a health authority named PaulBragg. Paul Bragg was a stunning, large guy with a full head of white hair. He was very clear when he spoke and very convincing because he lived this way 100%. If you lived inSanta Barbara, California when he was in residence there, you could get up at 6:00 inthe morning every day and exercise an hour and a half or two hours with him on the

beach for free.

In the colder months of the year he went to Honolulu, Hawaii and did the same. Hedrank juices and fasted. When I met him and heard him lecture a couple of times, hesaid to me, “Young man, food is very important, but not having food at least once a week is equally important, if not more important.” When he said that, it resonated with me because I understood anatomy, physiology and biochemistry at a basic level.

I understood that the body is no more than a machine. Every machine should be shut off at times and rested. If you’re eating very good, pure, organic, vegan or living food, eventhose foods have debris. Wouldn’t it be nice if we shut off the digestion process and the

elimination process, in large part, one day a week at least, to allow the energies to go outof that lower area of your energetics, to the higher areas like the heart, the head, or theemotional and spiritual states?

That’s why you’ve read in philosophical technologies and religion and spirituality that when people want to approach and touch God, they fast. These are the laws of physics we’re talking about now. It’s very simply unlocking and releasing the energies that arenormally down there for all the digesting, chewing and pooping. Now we’re putting it upthere to the heart and the head.

I think it’s a remarkable thing to do. I think because we’re addicts it’s a very difficultthing for most people to do. Besides being addicted to food and using it as a narcotic, soevery time we think or are unhappy or happy, we eat, it pacifies everything and calms you down so you don’t have to be conscious. The second problem is that about six out of 10 of you listening today—especially if you’re the typical sugar-eating raw-fooder—ormaybe seven or eight out of 10 of you, have low or high blood sugar problems.

You have either hypoglycemic or diabetic problems, or you’re close to them. That’s really difficult for people. When you take the juices on a fast day that are made of the rightsprouts, like pea green sprouts, sunflower sprouts, or wheat grass sprouts, these are all





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complete proteins. They regulate blood sugar. As you know, because you’ve done this, when you go on a green juice fast with sprouts included, you don’t have that struggle.

You don’t have the blood sugar going all over the place. You’re not thinking all day longabout drinking half a gallon of carrot juice, beet juice or something. Your body basically,inherently and naturally feels good, nourished and filled.

Nancy Desjardins: That might explain why when people are fasting one of thethings that everyone says is, “I’m starving.” However, if they keep their juice green, like you mentioned with the green vegetables, they won’t feel that.

Dr. Brian Clement: That’s true. In reality, let’s talk biology. It takes months or atleast many weeks to starve. You’re not starving. That’s blood sugar you feel within anhour. I remember that my poor mom was constantly eating the wrong things. She said,

“If I don’t eat I get a headache.” That’s an immediate sign that she was on the verge of diabetes. Everyone who has low blood sugar and doesn’t stop being bad, one day wakesup and is diabetic.

Nancy Desjardins: Eighteen years ago when I did a juice fast on carrot juice only,that was not a good thing.

Dr. Brian Clement: That was not a good thing. However, compare it to the Pepsi-Cola and Coca-Cola we used to drink, and it was a good thing. I’m not here to soundarrogant and condemn people. We all have to answer this as I did at the place where weare. Always remain open, and don’t become pigeon-holed, fanatical, or make this a

religion. It’s not.

Eventually, our objective is to make food not that important in our lives. It should be amundane part of our lives. Sure, I eat that way. Just before we got on here together, Iran over to the local health store. I’m in Buffalo, New York tonight lecturing. I was inBoston last night lecturing. I got myself a salad and coconut water, and that’s what I ate.I bought myself two kinds of sprouts and lettuce, which I’ll eat before my lecturetonight.

This is how you’ll eventually get. It took me a long time because I was a major addict.Remember that. I’ve seen some people who are remarkably conscious people do it in weeks; three, four or five weeks and that’s it. That’s how they eat the rest of their lives because they have a life. Once you have a life, food isn’t your life.

Nancy Desjardins: I totally agree. You’re at the point right now that your body is so well-nourished it’s okay to have those types of foods.

Dr. Brian Clement: Exactly. It picks it up.

Nancy Desjardins: Absolutely. What’s your take on water fasting?





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Dr. Brian Clement: Water fasting no longer works because we have such a

stressful, polluted, insane world we live in. We’re losing, probably, five to six times the

amount of nutrients than someone in 1890 did. The stress alone burns nutrition out of us like crazy. Water fasting was probably viable hundreds or thousands of years ago because we had a pristine environment.

Remember, there were no pesticides, fungicides, herbicides, airplanes, automobiles,television, radio, iPods, Blackberries, or cell phones. None of this stuff existed. We wereimperious throughout our days, resting, contemplating, praying, meditating, or whatever you want to call it, with family. We were very colloquial within our family ormaybe with our neighbors. Now everyday all the problems of the world are right in ourface.

If you don’t have enough problems, turn on television. All of this stuff burns you out. Water fasting no longer works for people. Remember, I’ve tested hundreds of thousandsof people. That’s a literal term. It’s been almost 40 years that I’ve done this work. Eventhose of us who eat impeccably, exercise and do everything we’re supposed to, rarely Igrant you, lack some nutrition.

What chance does the average person have if somebody like me, who has done this for40 years and really eats impeccably well all of the time, lacks minerals? Maybe it’s every four years or maybe for two weeks, but I catch that. That’s because of the load of activity that we have today. Water fasting doesn’t cut it anymore.

Nancy Desjardins: It is a relief to hear that. Let’s talk about water. What kind of water specifically would you recommend?

Dr. Brian Clement: One of the alumni wisely, six months ago, sent me a front-pagearticle from the Wall Street Journal . It said the fastest growing industry now is waterpurification. The green movement sort of happened overnight two years ago. Everyone woke up and said, “It’s not only for counterculture people. We better save our butts. The world’s going to go under if we don’t do something.”

Immediately, the unscrupulous said, “How are we going to make money on it?” They made up all kinds of sales pitches, innuendos and stories about water systems and thisand that. Let’s come down to reality and science. When they studied globally the watersystems in Toronto, New York City, London and Paris, there was not a water systemanywhere they tested—and there were dozens of them—that were not riddled withpharmaceuticals.

Pharmaceuticals are manipulated molecular structures that literally don’t break down.There are some scientists who are knowledgeable about this who basically suspect somepharmaceuticals could last 100,000 years. They end up in our water systems through





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urination or fecal matter in a toilet. Those things do not break down, and they don’tcome out in the normal filter systems.

There are only two kinds of filter systems that remove this. It’s pretty important that youshould listen to what I’m telling you. There are only two kinds of water systems. One isdistillation. We’ve used distillation and distilled water within the scientific realms all thetime. Distillation removes all particulate, or anything that is other than hydrogen oroxygen. That’s what you want. Hydrogen and oxygen is water.

Number two, the Japanese developed systems called organized molecular watersystems. They have names like Wellness System, or the Living Water System. I justinstalled one of those in my house. I’ve been drinking distilled water for 38 years. It’sprobably less than a gallon, but almost a gallon a day. There is a lot of BS and quasi- baloney going on about distillation. They say it’s going to rob minerals from your bones.

When they tested my bones at the University of California in Los Angeles just five yearsago, I was proud because they said, “You have the bone density of a 22-year-old athlete.” At the time I was in my mid 50s. This is absolute propaganda. If you believe distilled water can take minerals out of your body, the water would have to come into the body,knock on the door of a red blood cell and seduce the minerals to come out.

“Come on out. I’m waiting here for you. I’m hydrogen and oxygen.” The minerals say,“Okay. I’m not going to be part of the body anymore. I’m going to come out with you.” If you believe that, I’ll also convince you Mickey Mouse and Santa Claus are real. Also, theorganized molecular structure of water is interesting. There was a Japanese scientist

who was investigating why there were so-called ‘healing waters’.

The aging population of Japan would soak in it and would say their arthritis went away.They felt better and youthful. He went there to throw cold water on that and say, “This is baloney.” He became an authority on it. There were several areas, but he found out thatthese two geographically unique areas had minerals within the rock structure of the water and pools they were floating in.

In one area, he contracted and pulled out all of the man-made chemicals. In the otherarea he took out all the biology. He developed a system in which he took one set of minerals on one side where he pulled out the man-made chemicals, and on the otherside he pulled out the biological, microbial, and parasitic things. Then he put in what we would call a ‘vortex’. We’re not talking New Age.

A vortex literally can structure water. The very first guy who spoke about it lived in thelate 180os. He was an Austrian who wasn’t a scientist. He was a naturalist. He would goout in the woods and look at the way streams, rivers and lakes moved over rocks andspun, and how waterfalls would come down. He created a science about that. It’s what we call the geometrics, or geometry, of water flow. The Japanese guy figured this out.





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I don’t know if he did the work. I think the guy who originally talked about this 100 years ago was named Schürenberg. He put the vortex together and organized thestructure of the water. This removes the pharmaceutical drugs and the ethyl, which is a

gasoline additive that these two take out, plus all the obvious things: chlorine, fluorideand all the insane stuff we put into the water so some corporation can profit from it.

Nancy Desjardins: You’ve been drinking distilled water for 38 years, and you’restill alive.

Dr. Brian Clement: I’m very much alive.

Nancy Desjardins: The two systems you recommended are distillation andorganized molecules. Where can we get those two systems?

Dr. Brian Clement: There are a lot of those. If you get online, no matter where you’re living, you can look up ‘wellness’ or ‘living water system’, and I’m sure you havethose available for you. We have that one available at Hippocrates. There’s not a baddistiller. Find one from an older company, like Pure Water, that is going to be arounduntil the day you die. You’ll give it to your kids.

These are the systems you want to get. If you don’t have a lot of money and you’re single, you could get away with an inexpensive distiller, and it purifies the water. The RollsRoyce’s of today like the Living Water System I just installed in my house actually has analkalizer on the system, too. It has 17 phases. A medical doctor out West put it togetherfor us. He made it so that the phases ultimately remove all of the rock solid minerals.

These are the ones that cause hardening of the arteries or stones in the kidneys or theliver. They are the ones that the spring water industry tells you are good for you.Basically, when he removed that he found the electronic frequencies of those nutrientsand encoded them into the hydrogen and oxygen. You’re getting the frequency of thenutrients, or the electromagnetic bio-frequency effect, but you’re not getting the mineralitself.

It has an alkalizer on it. Alkalizers are good, but I hope nobody listening out there isusing an alkalizer as a filter because it’s not a filter. It only has a cheap carbon filter;even the most expensive units that they’re overcharging you for. You can use that after you get a filter like the two I just mentioned. Then you can use an alkalizer.

Nancy Desjardins: For those who have just joined in this afternoon, I’m talking toBrian Clement from Hippocrates Institute in Florida. Brian will be in Toronto onSeptember 11, which is this Friday. There are still tickets available. You can buy thetickets through Erika Wolff. Her email is [email protected]. Her telephonenumber is 416-428-1039.





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Brian will be in Georgetown the following day, which is Saturday, from 12:00 to 4:00PM. You can contact Susan Wilson at www.HealthENut.ca/. He will be in Montreal onOctober 23, 24, and 25. Brian, what is the contact name in Montreal?

Dr. Brian Clement: That’s Monica Peloquin. You can also get her online. You canlook on the Hippocrates website for my international tours. In two weeks, I’ll be inEurope again. I just got back from Vancouver and California. I just came from the New England area. I’ve been there for the last week and in New York City about a week ago.

Nancy Desjardins: You are a busy man. Brian, the first thing you do with all of theguests at Hippocrates is to give them psychotherapy. Why is that?

Dr. Brian Clement: When I was young and I started this work, I was convinced thateverything was biology. I thought that if you changed a diet, a person’s life changed.

Then I would see people eating exactly like I told them to eat and they remained sick. Istarted to suspect my theory wasn’t all right. Thank goodness I got a little bit wiser andmet people who guided me and told me that the way a person perceives their lifedetermines how well or unwell they are.

That brought me to the mind. I started to delve into it, study it, take conferences on itand research it. I became good friends with some outstanding people in the field. Dr.Carl Simonton, who was an oncologist, realized the only patients who recovered with themedical treatments he gave them were people with positive attitudes. He created thestudy of visualization.

Norman Cousins, a journalist, literally healed himself of a catastrophic cardiovascularproblem with laughter. These people guided me. I realized when I became director in1980 that the only way I would accept the position was if I was permitted to hirepsychotherapists, and that every guest had an opportunity to see a psychotherapist. Ican’t say I was astute enough to understand the power of that decision.

However, it has been one of the key reasons why so many people have come toHippocrates and prevented premature aging, healed themselves, gotten emotionally stable and been able to put their life back on track. I’ve always prided myself in findinggifted psychotherapists. A lot of people in the field of mental healthcare are crazy themselves. That’s why they’re attracted to it.

A lot of the results that people get are very poor when they go to people who areunstable to begin with. In the case of Hippocrates, we have two extremely gifted people.One has been with me 17 or 18 years. The other has been with me 12 or 13 years. In anhour or an hour and a half, they are completely able to make relevance out of why aperson is having such a problem and struggling in such an area.

It’s often that something, even sometimes insignificant, happened in our lives that wedidn’t resolve. If we don’t resolve things, no matter what we eat, we’re not going to be





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well. Psychotherapy is just as important as what you eat. As you know, Andy Roman,one of our psychotherapists who worked in an ER for a good part of his life, wrote a wonderful book, It’s Not What You Eat, It’s What’s Eating You.

That’s true. We’re not saying food isn’t important. You can’t eat bad food and bepositive. You’ll get sick anyway. If you are positive and eat good food and exercise, you’re unstoppable. That’s all I can say.

Nancy Desjardins: You once said that food opens up your consciousness and gives you the ability to be well. However, your mind and perception is what makes you well.

Dr. Brian Clement: Absolutely. I’ve seen so many people eat perfectly fine andthey’re still wacky. It’s that simple.

Nancy Desjardins: After my visit two years ago at the Institute, I went full-on withsprouts. I could sell sprouts. That’s how much I do sprouts here at my house.

Dr. Brian Clement: We heard about that. The whole neighborhood was talking.

Nancy Desjardins: Brian, this is the base of my salad. For many meals that’s all Ihave, sprouts and sprinkled garlic. Can we talk about sprouts, the benefits?

Dr. Brian Clement: You and I are on the same page. The field of nutrition in thelast 15 to 20 years has finally focused on Hippocrates work of the last 53 years. They re-discovered what was first found in 1948, and is now called phytochemicals. Now, listen

closely, people. This is the real science of nutrition, and also proof of God, as I say.Plants started millions of years ago, well before humans were even conceived on thisplanet.

We’ve only been around a few hundred thousand years. Literally, these plants containeddisease-fighting and disease-eliminating chemistry. In 1948, they discovered that, and it wasn’t until the early ‘90s when they started to focus in on that again. One of the mostprofound studies in North America was done at Johns Hopkins University. They lookedat the cruciferous vegetable family.

That’s the cabbage family. Then they focused on broccoli. If you eat broccoli it really killsevery form of cancer. A very smart younger researcher in 1992 said, “If the broccoli isgood, let’s sprout the seeds.” They found out that when you sprouted the seeds, they were from 36 to 48 times more effective on healing and killing cancer cells, andpreventing cancer. This spawned global research and billions of dollars of research.

Sadly, it was funded by the pharmaceutical industries who want to synthesize this stuff,charge you a lot of money and put it in a bottle—and by the way, it will never work—rather than to tell everyone in the world to eat sprouts. They discovered from these





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efforts that by far sprouts have the most phytochemicals in them. All the billions of dollars of work has been a heyday for us.

Now we know clearly why this program has healed so many hundreds of thousands of people globally and kept us all young as can be. These phytochemicals are literally nature’s way of preserving the human being. Every different food, whether it is a vegetable or fruit—and certainly sprouts are at the top of the list—have different types of diseases they prevent and eliminate.

Isn’t that amazing and remarkable? I can give you an example. Right now I’m writing a book that will hopefully be used in medical schools as a textbook on the science of food, why food heals, and why food is the most important healing agent we know of allmedicine. My problem with this book is that I have so much information I have to edit itdown to 200-plus page book.

Right now I’m in the middle of looking at 2,600 studies done globally on thecurcuminoids in turmeric. Curcuminoid is a phytochemical. My job is to read all of these2,600 understudies and then take one that reflects 50, 100 or 200 of those studies andprint that in a chapter of the book. It’s amazing what they found in turmeric. It tells youit’s good for everything other than making a human being fly.

It’s good for cardiovascular disease, cancer, dementia, diabetes, and on and on it goes.Cinnamon! Who would have known five years ago that there is an active ingredient incinnamon that regulates blood sugar? This is powerful stuff, and at the top of the list aresprouts, all sprouts. Fenugreek sprouts studied at Harvard University actually showed

that it would regulate diabetic conditions.

By the way, 58% of the people who ate fenugreek sprouts reduced their insulin, and 8%came off it; not even changing their diet, but just by doing that. This is a world of realnutrition science today; not the pills and bottles. I have a book coming out in two weeks, by the way. All of your listeners better get this and pass it around. It’s called Supplements Exposed .

Last night in Boston and tonight in Buffalo I’m going to be addressing that. Supplements Exposed is a book that’s going to rip the entire veil off supplements andshow you that over 90% are dangerous to take and cause disease. By the way, 8% arephenomenally important and we should be taking them. They prevent disease andpremature aging.

Nancy Desjardins: To just recap, we need to add more turmeric, cinnamon and eatmore fenugreek.

Dr. Brian Clement: Other sprouts, too. Wheatgrass kills every form of cancer, thetwo kinds of viruses—rhino and retro—and every bacterium they’ve tested. It reducesspirochete, Lyme disease. It’s antiseptic.





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Nancy Desjardins: Yes, so that would be the wheatgrass therapy. The wheatgrass

therapy would be drinking wheatgrass and also taking wheatgrass internally.

Dr. Brian Clement: Ooh la la! Don’t be risqué.

Nancy Desjardins: I was going to comment on this, but I’ll let you explain to me.This is profound and very important to go over this.

Dr. Brian Clement: Ann Wigmore was a base realist. She was wonderful becauseshe had no formal education and no intellect. She was just completely instinctual like a wonderful wild creature. She realized after she healed herself of Stage IV colon cancer—and that’s why Hippocrates began in the 1950s—“If this is good for me if I drink it, whatif, because I have colon cancer, I take the wheatgrass juice and put it up into my large

intestine.”

She said, “It’s not only good for colon cancer, but for every form of disease I look at.”‘Internal implants’ is what we call them. Like breast implants, these are wheatgrassimplants. They are widely used, certainly, in the initial stages of healing and recovery and maintenance, and this is certainly phenomenally important if one is going to go on afast, to clean themselves out much better, to nourish themselves in a much moreeffective way.

It’s not only wheatgrass you can do that with, depending upon what you have. If youhave a spastic colon that’s too active, you can take chamomile right now. This time of the

year, go out into the fields wherever you live and get the raw chamomile. Juice that upand put it in, and it pacifies, it calms down, the gastrointestinal spasms, the largeintestine spasms. You can put it on topically.

We have seen so many people with eruptions and tumors that are seen on the surface,and they have literally been able to reduce these by taking it and allowing that wheatgrass, which is very similar to the hemoglobin in blood, go right through the skin,the membrane, and affect that area where the tumor or burn is, or whatever it may be.

Nancy Desjardins: I’m glad that you mentioned this. Now let’s talk about whole-food supplements. Would you recommend them?

Dr. Brian Clement: There is no question. Going back to what I said about 17minutes ago, everyone I’ve tested, even those of us who eat like saints, basically at sometime lack nutrition. What prevents that lack of nutrition under this very stressful,polluted condition we find ourselves in today is extra nutrients or super amounts of nutrients from powerful whole-food supplementation, things like algae and pollen,things that are powerfully good for you.





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I know there are a lot of so called super-food things, and they’re all sugar-food thingsout there, that people like. They’re not really super foods. They’re super-stimulating,super-narcotic. The ones that are super foods go from A to Z in powerful nutrients,

proteins, vitamins, minerals, trace minerals, and not only the antioxidants. These havethe best antioxidants in them, too.

These are the things, like the sprouts we talked about, but what if you could take, forinstance, curcuminoid—which we do, by the way, with our Life Gift product—and takeabout 500 times more curcuminoid out of the turmeric. You’d have to eat five pounds of turmeric to get what it would take. Who’s going to eat five pounds of turmeric? Even if you like Indian food, you won’t do that.

Basically, you put that in a pill. As long as you don’t kill it and heat it above 100 degreesor so, you’re going to get the benefit of that. This is how we can therapeutically work

with people. Do you know how powerful things like flower pollen are? It’s amazing,complete proteins, vitamins, minerals, trace minerals, antioxidants, phytochemicals. Allof these things are in there working as a massive team to prevent and eliminate diseases.

Nancy Desjardins: You also mention in your book, LifeForce, about the algae andhow important it is to consume algae. Are there any specific algae that we shouldconsume?

Dr. Brian Clement: Surely. Every day I get up, and all four of my children did thisfrom the time they ate at two years old—they breast fed before that. There are five formsof algae. Algae has been clearly demonstrating that it corrects DNA disorder. What that

means is that if you eat right, think right and exercise, you’re going to live longer. If you want to live longer than that, take algae.

Blue-green algae was literally the very first life form on this planet. They created oxygen. All life as we know it came after blue-green algae. This is fundamental. Whatever isnumber one has part of, or little bits, of whatever comes after it. Isn’t that amazing? Thisalgae is like putting a good foundation in your life, and this is why it corrects DNA. A very close cousin—almost a brother or sister—is a green algae, like a Chlorella, so one of the ones I take is Chlorella.

The other four are variations on blue-green algae. Not all the listeners need to do that.Remember, I get it wholesale; you don’t sometimes. Number two, which is a central partof the Hippocrates program, are sea vegetables. The most nutritious vegetables on theplanet today are ocean vegetables. Why? Where is the best soil on the planet? In my book Supplements Exposed , which will be out in two weeks, I talk about a big meetingthat happened in 1988.

It was down in Brazil where they talked about the environment. They had 108 of the topleaders, presidents and prime ministers, there. They announced in that meeting how much soil erosion happened around the world. Now, brace yourself for this. This is





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1988, 20 years ago. They said that in North America, Canada and the United States, atthat point we had lost 85% of the nutrition in our soil. That was in less than 100 years, by the way.

In Europe, it was 72%, in Africa 76%, and in Asia 78%. Even the organic food we’regrowing, unless it’s grown in a really rich soil, you’re getting very little nutrition out of it.The advantage of you taking the organic food, even if it’s not nutritious, is at least you’renot getting pesticides, fungicides and herbicides, and getting some nutrition out of it.It’s different when you’ve eaten food that’s grown on really rich soil.

Regarding my magazine—and hopefully the listeners subscribe to our magazine; if not, write into Hippocrates and you can get on that—the new one just came out today, andthat’s on medical and healthcare fraud, including the natural-food fraud movement.Basically, the next one is going to be on soil, and the importance of soil on the starvation

and survival of humanity and the planet itself, and how we’ve depleted the soil.

With all of that said, you have to take these extra-nutritious foods like algae from theocean that’s grown in all the soil that comes out of the land and goes to the bottom of theocean, so sea vegetables are part of that. Last are the sprouts. The most nutritious foodson the planet are freshwater algae, which includes green and blue-green algae; saltwateralgae, which includes arame, kelp, dulse, wakame, et cetera; and sprouts.

Sprouts are 30 times, 20 times, and at least 10 times, more nutritious than the best vegetable. Today, if you go into your garden and you pick a beautiful vegetable that you’ve grown all summer long, wash it and eat it, it is 10 times less nutritious than a

clover sprout, 20 times less nutritious than a buckwheat green, and 30 times lessnutritious than sunflower, pea greens, or wheatgrass. If you’re going to eat something or juice something, why not these foods? Of course, the other foods you can have, we callthem condiments.

Nancy Desjardins: That’s right, but the bulk of the plate could be…

Dr. Brian Clement: As you know, and this is why you do it: you gravitated toward itand you feel the energy.

Nancy Desjardins: Absolutely, that’s right. That’s a good point. Brian, we’re goingto go to the second segment of the interview, and those are the questions submitted by our listeners. Can we touch on adrenal exhaustion? What would be a very effective way to help the adrenal?

Dr. Brian Clement: Number one, there are a lot of alternative types today whoimmediately go to that when they don’t know what’s wrong with somebody. They say,“Your adrenals are burnt out.” Let’s talk about what the adrenals are. They’re part of theendocrine system, the glandular system, of the body. Unfortunately, they’re on top of thekidneys.





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The kidneys, if you know Asian medicine, are called the ‘worry organ’. How many of youdon’t worry, and how many of you aren’t stressed today? How many of you aren’t always

thinking pessimistically? We have a lot of stress today. Besides being the worry organ,and these poor glands trying to secrete hormones to calm down the worry, you also havepollutants that are affecting.

We also have estrogens or synthetic, make-believe estrogens that are in our body, because we are doing all kinds of ungodly things. We’re eating food that we ought not to be eating, or non-food that we shouldn’t be eating. We’re taking pesticides, fungicidesand herbicides. We’re taking water without those filtration systems I talked about andgetting somebody else’s pharmaceutical drugs.

It’s not only theirs, but mixtures of those, and God only knows what they’re making. It

could be 30 or 40 drugs mixed together. God knows what that’s doing to you. You’re wearing polyester clothes, and that’s putting chemicals into your body that mimic, look like, or feel like estrogens to your body. That’s why today, when they’ve actually studiedglobally for the first time in recorded history, there’s 2% higher amounts of girls being born than male.

What’s remarkable about nature, up until now, is that it’s been 50-50 globally. Therehave always been half the women and half the men. They project that if it keeps going onthis trend, with these estrogens causing men to feminize and women to emasculate—andI’ll explain that in a minute—you’re literally going to have 5% or 10% less men than women. Why men are feminizing, quite simply, is because of this, and why women

emasculate is because of this.

If women get too much estrogen in their body, their body starts to produce testosteroneto calm it down. Women are becoming more male-like and men are becoming more woman-like. Isn’t it interesting? That’s why prostate cancer and breast cancer are soprominent and growing, because both of these are activated from that. This is true of liver cancer and pancreatic cancer; all of this is from that.

With that said, this stress we talked about on the adrenals, and with all the worry andthe stress people are under, you can start to support them with minerals. Potassium isone of the keys because potassium is important for the kidney function. That’s why, by the way, when the kidneys go bad, you’ve got to stop taking potassium. That means thekidney no longer can process the fuel that it needs.

That is why, for instance, when you’re having a kidney disorder you cannot take a lot of raw juices. You can’t take a lot of green vegetables. You didn’t do enough of it early onand you were under stress, so basically you blew out your kidney. Now what it needs itcan no longer take because it’s no longer capable of handling it. Start getting thosegreens. Get off the fruits. Calm yourself down. Get into prayer, meditation andcontemplation.





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Hang out with people who resonate with you. You don’t have to subject yourself. Find work that you’re passionate about. Don’t worry about the money first; worry about the

fulfillment first. Get yourself into an environment you love. If you’re living some place you hate, move. Don’t always use the excuse that it’s hard, because you’ll be sick and you’ll die. It’s much harder to be sick, painful, and die than it is to be happy.

Even if you’re not endowed with all the materialism you thought was so important in thepast, if you have you, that’s the most important thing. Find loving relationships. Theonly way you’ll do that successfully is love yourself. You’ve got to work hard on raising your self-esteem, and the only way you’ll do that thoroughly and effectively is by showing yourself you can eat right, showing yourself you can exercise, showing yourself you honor yourself.

Then you will slowly but surely start to trust and start to love and respect who you are.Then you are going to attract other loving people, not other losers, not other unhappy people. No wonder you’re attracting those people in your life. It’s because you’remirroring exactly who they are. As my father taught me as a boy, birds of a feather flock together. You’re going to attract exactly who you are at that time.

These are the things that are going to correct that. There are vegan supports, herbalsupports, for the adrenal system, too. There are foods and the minerals, both algaes wespoke about, non-sugary root vegetables, like rutabaga, turnip and jicama. These thingshave lots of minerals in them. However, at the top of the list is sea vegetables.

Nancy Desjardins: Good answer. Thank you. Can we talk about swine flu?

Dr. Brian Clement: Did you ever notice that the pharmaceuticals really know how to sell the public on things, and they realize that the average person who’s been educatedonly reads at a fifth-grade level, so they always give them animal names. As you recall,the last big catastrophic was the bird flu. God forbid they call it the ‘boshnoska’ orsomething.

The last one was the bird flu. Why are the pharmaceuticals so effective in doing this sooften? It’s because they make so much money every time they scare the heck out of thepublic. Here is what they did. The last time they literally said, “This vaccine does not work. This is the bird flu. It doesn’t work.” They got everyone all riled up over the world where people have money.

Notice that they never go to places where people don’t have money to tell them this.They don’t give a darn because they’re not going to make money. Basically, they riled upall the Europeans and North Americans, and they sold and made a profit of $17 billionas they were telling people, “This does not work.” If you think they made a lot of money then, wait until you see what they make this time.





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When I was on my last European tour in June and July in eight countries, ironically thefront page of every single newspaper in every capital in England, France, Norway,Sweden, Holland, Denmark and everywhere I was, they had the same story: By August

15th, one-third of the population of whatever country I was in was going to have theswine flu, the pig flu. Isn’t that interesting?

It’s impossible that they could predict something. By the way, none of those countrieshad that; but, boy, did they scare people. All those people got on the phone and calledtheir government officials and said “Oh, my gosh. You’d better stockpile this stuff.”They’re telling you now they’re not sure it’s going to work, and they won’t have it foranother two months. They’re not sure if you’re going to take two shots or one shot.

When that settles down in another two years, they’ll come up with the flower flu, because everyone can say ‘flower’. Two years after that they’ll have the smiley flu,

because it has to use simple words for simple-minded people who are easy to controland manipulate and create fear in. You can live right and think right. Carry things likesilver nitrate, sovereign silver; put it up your nostrils and spray it when you’re in thoseareas.

Make sure you wash your hands. These things everyone’s telling you are really true. Wash your hands, and if you’re going to sneeze, even if you don’t have the flu, sneezeinto your shirt pocket or carry, as I do, a handkerchief with you all of the time. I hardly ever sneeze, but God forbid I ever do, I don’t want to sneeze on somebody else or inpublic.

These are the things you have to do, and they’re common sense. Don’t go into anenvironment, basically, where people are sick like that. You’re going to have to go to work, you’re going to have to have your children at school, but on the other hand, makesure that they’re doing these things, too. It’s just outrageous how much they canmanipulate people today.

Nancy Desjardins: Exactly, that’s right. What are your thoughts on this. I know you wrote something in your news a few months ago that was part of the newsletter viaezines on the Internet. What are your thoughts on the omega-3? Then we can talk about Vitamin-D after that?

Dr. Brian Clement: In my book, Supplements Exposed— which will be out the endof this month or early October—I have an entire chapter called the Fish Fallacy: How Fish Oil is a Carcinogen. Twenty-four hours after they remove it from the fish, it hassomething called a lipid peroxide, a fat peroxide, in it. We’ve known solidly for 50 yearsthat lipid peroxides cause cancers.

Furthermore, they filter it. There’s major solid research I talk about from around theglobe about how everyone knows this is a carcinogen, and it’s not really a good source of essential fats, omega-3. As a matter of fact, it’s 25 times less capable of being digested in





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the body than something like, as an example, the chia seed oil. For the best of all oils, you grown chia sprouts.

You go out and get a moderate-sized little clay pot, and that should be organic clay, by the way. You soak it in water in a little saucer for an hour, then turn the pot upside downin the saucer, and soak your chia seeds. Get any type. Don’t let them tell you Saba is better than the others; it’s all going to be the same. Soak them for six hours, spread it ontop of there, and little hairs start growing out.

If you remember on the holidays, they always have these Chia dolls. Take about aquarter of that pot every day, cut it off, put it in your salad or chew it up, and that’s by far the best source of omega-3, plant base, hemp. If you live in Canada, very soon you’regoing to be able to sprout hemp. If anyone is listening in Europe and civilized places likeEngland, you can sprout it.

I was a little bit involved in the research over there a number of years ago where weshowed that it is 77 times more effective going into the brain through the blood-brain barrier if it’s sprouted rather than not sprouted. So far, here in North America we’rerelegated to just taking the shelled seeds. I take a handful of that, or a little bit less,throw it in salad four or five times a week, and that’s another great source.

Sprouted flax is phenomenally good. We make a product where we sprout the flax andgrind it up. You can sprout the flax yourself on paper towels at home, and that makes itusable, user-friendly. That’s another extraordinarily good source. There has beenmainstream research done that shows that that’s better than fish oils for you. Again, the

fish oil industry spent millions on convincing people.

They have most of the so-called alternative or holistic doctors conned, and they’retelling people to take an ungodly carcinogenic oil from a fish. My gosh! When you take afish out of the water, it stinks in 30 minutes. Do you think the oil’s going to be anexception to that?

Nancy Desjardins: No, that’s right. Do we have time just to add something about Vitamin-D before we end this call, Brian?

Dr. Brian Clement: Yes, we are making a vegan living-food Vitamin-D supplement,and it’s from shiitake mushrooms, sundried shiitake mushrooms, and it’s good. Let metell you, though, that even as good as the one that I labored over to make, it will never,ever replace sunlight. One of the things we’ve all been conned into over the lastgeneration or two is that the sun is dangerous, that it’s horrible for you, et cetera.

You cannot be healthy without the sun. Every one of us—and I don’t care where you live;even if it’s in the godforsaken north, way up north somewhere where it’s cold and snow is starting this month—should get natural fiber clothes on and go out at 9:00 in themorning or before and an hour-and-a-half or two hours before the sun goes down, and




“Change Your Lifestyle, Lengthen Your Lifespan” ____________________________________________________________spend 30 minutes outside walking. Get under a tree in the middle of the day at 12:00 or1:00 with indirect sunlight and spend 10 to 15 minutes.

Do that five or six days a week; that’s really what you need to do. Yes, if you’re in thenorth and working in offices, not outside, you may also want to take the Life Give Vitamin-D. I will repeat this: as good as the one I make is—and there is none better, Ican assure you, because a lot of Vitamin-D is made out of fish oil and chemicals, as aremost supplements; over 90% are chemicals and made in labs with ‘Natural’ ripped onthe side of it—basically, it will never replace sunlight.

Nancy Desjardins: You’ve been listening to Dr. Brian Clement from HippocratesInstitute. Brian will be in Toronto this Friday, September 11th, at the Saint Paul Center.The lecture begins at 6:30 PM and will end at 10:00 PM. That is this Friday, and thereare still tickets available. Call 416-428-1039. You can contact Erika Wolff. Visit her

website at www.PowerOfRaw.com.

On Saturday from 12:00 PM until 4:00 PM, contact Susan Wilson in Georgetown. Brian will be there, as well, at the Gaylord Center in Halton Hills, and in Montreal on October23rd, 24th, and 25th. You can contact Monica or visit the website www.HippocratesInst.org.

Dr. Brian Clement: I’m in other places. Tonight, I’m in Buffalo. Tomorrow, I’ll bein London, Ontario. You can get on that. I’ll be in Europe very soon, and Californiapretty soon. Thanks for having me on. It was nice to talk to all of you. Be well, and become examples of what humans are capable of.

Nancy Desjardins: Thank you so much for your time, Brian. It’s been an eye-opening and truly pleasant experience, so thanks again. I hope to repeat this call again.Thank you.

Dr. Brian Clement: Bye now.

Nancy Desjardins: Bye.

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