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REF: INTERVIEW WITH JENNY MATHEWS

DN 2664, DATED 05-M·~9

INVESTIGATION:

On Wednesday, 05·05·99. at approximately 11:00a,m.. ! contactedJenny Mathewsat her residence, 6647 W, Weaver Avenue.

Littleton. Colorado. home phone number 303·798·7162. She Isa tenth grader at Columbine High School, who wasa passenger

with JOM Ungerland during an incidentat 1430hours, 04.20·99 Mathews stated that on 04-20·99. unknown time.estimating

around 4:00 p.m. this dale. that she was driving with her boyfriend, John Ungerland, when she noticed a rusty red vehicle.

possibly a four-door. traveling north on Weaver. approximately ten blocks west of Pierce Street, wherein the passenger in the

front seal was hangingout the front window. Mathews statedthat her firstobservations of the passengerwere thathe was holding

a video camera with two hands and alerted her boyfriend Ungerland. Mathews described the passenger as a white male

pproximately 17years of age with brownishblondhair wearingdarkclothes,holdingan object. believed to be a videocamera.

with two hands. MathewsSlated that this individualwas hangingoutof the vehicleup to approximatelyhis chest area. Mathews

described the driver of the red vehicle as a white male, approximately 18 years of age. with brown hair and dark clothing.

Mathews stated that she believedthe driver', windowwas halfway downand that the driver was driving approximately15 miles

an hour when the vehicle passed their vehicle. Mathews stated that she did not recognize either suspect as students and would

not recognize them ifshe saw them. Mathews stated that she only observed the suspects in this incident for approximately two

to three seconds total rime. Mathews stated that during this incident she and Ungerland were looking for Ungerland's sister.

Sarah. Mathews said that the passenger was holding as a black thing. approximately two feet long and WaS positivethat the

individual was holding it with rwo hands.

ADDlT10NAL INFORMATl0N: Mathews stated that she was almostpositive that the object being held by the suspect was

a video camera until her boyfriend Ungerland told her that it was a hand gun.

DISPOSITION: Case open, pending further investigation.

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The following supplemental report is related to DN ~4986,

During the week beginning on OS/24/99, Detective aoatright(10) was requested to assist Detective Battan and Sergeant West(members of the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office) with contactsrelated to family members of deceased victims as well as survivingvictims and their famil~es. Specifically during that week,arrangements had been made to allow the aforementioned groups ofpeople to enter the library (scheduled individually by family: andobserve the crime scene in a general overview, IO's presence wasrequested to answer general questions relaced to events occurringin the library Ie was also asked to be present in the event asurviving witness/victim had an additional recollection whileviewing the cri~e scene.

10 would note he was assigned as a team leader to the librarywhich then gave him the responsibilities of conducting theinvest~gation concerning events related to the witnesses'recollection at that location, As a result, IO conducted numerousinterviews with surviving library witnesses/victims and had alsoreviewed all ether interviews conducted with survivingwitnesses/victims from that same location. As of the dateindicated above, 10 was very familiar with the witnesses' accountsof events occurring in the library during the incident on 04/20/99

On OS/2B/99 at approximately 1415 ~oursf IO was present in thelibrary ciu~in9 the time Kathy Park! her s~ster (Jeanna Park) andtheir parents were present. While Jeanna Park was speaking w~th

her parents over near table ~2 (location she was at during theincidencl, Kathy Park asked if she would be allowed to walk over tothe area where she was located during the course of this incident.IO responded in the affirmative and accompanied Kathy Park over tothe west side of the library.

As Kathy park stood at the north end of the far west bookshelfand looked out onto the west section, 10 asked if she recalledw~ere she was located when the incident began. Kathy Parkresponded in the affirmative. Kathy Park then walked a shortd~stance to the south and pointed to a chair located between a passthrough and a section of bookshelves. IO would note theaforementj.oned bookshelf is labeled "row 51! in the offic:ialdiagram Kathy Park continued with her explanation by statingwhile seac ed at that Locat i on , she heard a Iiteacher il enter thelibrary and tell all of the stud~nts to get under the tables.Kathy Park reported she believed the teacher had indicated she hadseen a gunman somewhere on the school property, Kathy Park seatedshe cornpl~ed with the ~eacher's request and quickly made her wayover to cable #15" Kathy Park stated she then got underneath tr~t

tab~e When ask~d where she was located under the table, Kathy?ar~ pc~~~ed to the southeast corner of the cable. Kathy Park

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described primarily facins a north~esterly direction whileunderneath che ~able Kathy Park did confirm there were threeadditional males under the ta~le, several of which were shot duringthe incident. Kathy Park stated as of this date, she was familiarwith those individuals' names and confirmed them as being DanielSteepleton, Patrick Ireland and Makai Hall. Kathy Park stated tothe best of her recollection, she was seated next to Pat Irelandwhen the incident besan. Kathy Park then pointed out as theincident continued, she knew the~e was movement underneath hertable though she could not be certain as to where everyone waslocated 'lafter the shooting started. 'I

Kathy Park was subsequently asked what she recalled occurringduring the course of this incident. Kathy Park stated she believedat least two suspects had entered the libra~1 after which theybegan f~ring weapcns. Kathy Park made that determination based onhearing two voices. Kathy Park could not recall the words spokenas the suspects entered the library Kathy Park described thesuspects firing the weapons from somewhere northwest in thelibrary" Kathy Park pointed out due to the level of fear she wasexperiencing she was trying not to "look, 11 Kathy Park did 1~ecall

one or both of the suspects firing weapons out the west librarywindows prior co "shOoting ~t the tables."

Kathy Park stated as she continued to hear gunshots beingfired on the west side of the library, she realized some of themales tindernea~h her table had been shot. When asked hew she knewthat, Kathy Park stated she could see 11blood ,U Kathy Park wasunable to be mOre specific concerning that point, IO did confirmwith Kathy Park she did not specifically see how the individualsunder her table were shot,

Kathy Park stated at some point lacer, she did see a suspectwhom she identified as l1Dylan" standing to the east of table ff16holding what appeared to be a Hshotgun. U Kathy Park stated at thatpoint Dylan Klebold was attempting to pull Isaiah Shoals out fro~

underneath table #16. 10 verified with Kathy Park she hadpreviously seen Isaiah Shoels underneath that table. When askedfor fur~her cla~ification regarding che above observation, KathyPark said .she first heard Dylan Klebold state, "Get up nigger"after which the forenamed grabbed Isaiah Shoela by the arm andbegan to Ilpull. 'I According to Kathy Park, Dylan Klebold gave upthat effort quickly thus Isaiah Shoals was not pUlled out fromunder the table Kathy Park was unable to provide any additionalin:o~mation regarding ~hat issue.

10 confirmed with Kathy Park Dylan Klebald did not actuallyp~ll anyone out from unde~neath table #16 after which she Saw thefore~amed poin~ his shotgun underneath that table and fire at leastone round. Kathv Parks stated she then looked away. When askedhow long the aoo;e described event took, Kathy Park sta~ed i~ was"ver-y qu Lck" and made reference to the incident lasting "a few

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seconds" IO again verified with Kathy Park when making referenceto the incident last~n9 only a few seconds, she was referring tothe time frame from when Dylan Klebolci reached under thetctble and grabbed the person she believed was Isaiah Shoels to thepoint he fired the shotgun underneath the table.

Kathy Park was next asked how she was able to identify DylanKlebold. Kathy Park stated she has had pr~or contact (throughschool) wlth Dylan Klebold and specifically remembered a time theforenamed was using the copy machine and was referred to by one ofthe scaff members as "Dylan." Kathy Park clarified it was netun~il after she saw the forenamed pictured in news reporcs that sheknew his last name. IO did confirm with Kathy Park she was certainconcerning the above identiflcation

Whe~ asked to describe Dylan Klebold, Kathy Park stat~d shebelieved he was wearing a black shirt, black pants and black boots.Kathy Park stated she could not specifically recall if DylanKlebcld was ~earing a hat at that time. For purposes ofclarification, Kathy Park was unable to describe the other suspectin the library.

When asked what else she observed related to this incident,Kathy Park stated she remembered hearing both the suspects"laughing" as they began shooting people. Kathy Park stated shedid noe remember seeing any additional activity occurring on thewest side of the library as it pertained to Che suspects, KathyPark did clarify once she believed the suspects had left the westside of ~he library, they d~d go over to the east $ide of thelibrary where she heard numerous gunshots and "screaming." KathyPark poi~ted out her sister! Jeanna park, was located on the eastside of the library. Kathy Park repor~ed after she stopped hearinggunshots east of her location, she then believed the suspects leftthe libra=y. Kathy Park stated she was then able to flee thelibrary (in the company of other studen~$) via the north libraryeme~gency ex~t, Kathy Park ccmme~ted when she lett the library shenoticed there were only a "rew bullet holes" in the west librarywindows

KaLhv ?ark was then asked if she recalled any additionalde~ai~s re:aced ~o ttis investigation. Kachy ?a~k responded bys t a t z.nq , "Not right now. II Ie would note prior to this date, he hadbeen ~otified by Detect~ve Moomaw wlth the Arapahoe CountyS~er:£f's Office that durlng contacts he had with the Park family,i~ was made c:ea~ the parents {specifically the father) did notwant his daughters interviewed. As of this date, Detective Moomawhad been unsuccessful in conducting an interview with Kathy ?ark.:0 d:d confirm with Kathy Park if her pa~ent$ were in agreement,she would submi~ to a much more detailed interview. :0s~bsequently concluded his contac~ with Kathy Park

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interview, IO would recommend the forenamed be reinterviewed indetail While ro was speaking to Kathy Park, it was obvious theforenamed was very preoccupied with the conditions of the library,thus it did not appear as though she was giving IO har fullattention.

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Interview of Rebecca Parker conducted on 4-22-99 at 1400 by lnv. Reker at 5688 S. Iris Wy.

Rebecca Parker17 y.o.a1-13-82Student at Columbine High School5688 S.lris Wy. Uttlelon Colo,303-979-8131

On the above date and time, lnv. Reker did conduct an interview with Rebecca Parker.and in thatinterview, parker states that she was in the library when a teacher came in yelling about a gunman, and

'cer than heard shots and the teacher yelled to get under the tables.

Parker states that she was under the table with a girl named 'Linda" when 2 wlm came into theLu;lrary from the main hallway doors and that they came from downstairs,

Parker added that she saw one male with black shoes and black jeans and that when they enteredthe Library that they were shcotlnq and throwing bombs.

She continued stating that they entered the computer area shooting and that she heard screams andthat one of the suspects stated "now I get my revenge"

One of the suspects than came to Pankers table and looked under the table at Pankerand that theperson was wearing a dar\( ski mask, and this person put his gun to her head and just looked at ner.anc didnot say a word,and she just looked him in the eye and for thirty seconds they just stared at each other andthe suspect tJ,en just walked away.

Parker states that one of the males asked the other where the backpack was and then stated here itis and then she heard what she thought was the suspects reloading.

Parker states that the 2 gunman always seemed to be together and that one made the statement of'heres something I have always wanted to do.lt makes them bleed more"

The suspects then contacted a male party under a table and said 'hey John, what are you doingj? Get 0 ut of here, were going to blow up the Library"

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The suspects then continued to talk aboutblowing up the l.lbraryand then they left by the mainlibrary doors

Parker then left by a side door to Ihe Library and was evacuated by police

Parker also added that the gunman had the maskpulled over hisface at the time he held the gun toher head.

Thai one of the gunman called out Ihe name of "Red"

Parker does not know the suspects personally but stated that Jennifer Colby and Jenrnter Plato usedto run around with the suspects.

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Rebecca Parker, date of birth January 13, 1982, 5688South Iris Way, Littleton, Colorado 80123, telephone number (303)979-8131, was interviewed at her home in the presence of hermother, Barbara Fairbanks, After being advised of the identityof the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, Parkerfurnished the following information:

Parker is a Junior at columbine High Sehoel. Her flrstclass is during first period which runs from 7:30 a,m. to 8:20a,m. This class is Language Arts/World Literature and is taughtby Mr. Webb. Second period runs from 8:25 a.m. to 9:20 a.m. andParker has a photography class with Miss H. There is an extrafive minutes during this period for announcements. Theannouncements are broadcast over televisions in the classrooms.Parker typically can't hear the a~~ouncements in her classroom.She does net remember anything unusual during the announcementson April 20, 1999, During third period, she has Algebra II withMiss Moore. This period runs from 9:25 a.m, to 10:15 a,m.During fourth period, she has World History with Miss Hering,whiCh runS from 10:20 a.m. to 11:10 a,m, From 11:15 a,m. to11: 50 a. tn • , Parker has what is known as "A" Lunch. During herlunch period, she typically goes to the Library first and thengrabs lunch after doing homework or grabs lunch first and thengoes to the Library. Parker sees the same group of students inthe Library and they usually are at the Same tables. Parkerusually would sit with Cassie Bernall or Lindsay Elmore,depending upon how much work she had to do.

On April 20, 1999, her fourth period World Historyclass group went to the Library to finish some work, Parker satat table #8 with Cassie Bernall. Prior to the class, Parker hadreceived a note stating her after-prom T-shirt was available inthe main office. When fourth period was over she went to themain office to collect her after-prom T-shirt. She was gone ferapproximately five minutes and when she returned to the Libraryshe noticed that Bernall had moved her stuff to table #15,Parker than asked a student sitting at table #16 if he had donehis Spanish homework. Typically seated at table #16 were CoreyDePooter; Austin Eubanks; Patrick Ireland; Peter Forsberg; Danwith a last name that begins with S; and a boy named Makia.Parker believes it may have been DePooter she asked about the

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Spanish homework as he was in her Spanish class. She remembersbeing told that he had not completed the homework and she shouldtalk to Forsberg when he gets to the Library. Parker ended upputting her stuff down and sitting at table #12. She believes itwas approximately 11:15 a.m. when she sat down at the table.About a minute after she sat down, Lindsay Elmore joined her atthe table. Attachment A is a diagram of the Columbine HighSchool Library. Parker marked on the diagram where she andElmore sat at table #12.

The next thing Parker remembers was Miss Nielson cominginto the Library and stating something to the effect of, "There'sa man in the school with a gun, where's the phone?" !~iss Nielsentold everyone co get under the tables and everyone looked at herin confusion. She told everyone again to get under the tables.Parker got under her table and was laying on the floor with herhead between her legs. She could hear Miss Nielson on thetelephone. As it was the end of the school year, Parker thoughtthat whatever was happening was a senior prank. Approximatelytwo to three m~nutes later. she heard what sounded likefirecrackers. She does not specifically recall the direction ofthe sounds. Five to seven minutes later, she heard morefirecracker noises coming from the commons or oafeteria area.About a minute Or two later, she heard firecracker noises justoutside the Library by the stairs.

Parker and Elmore were both hiding under table #12.Parker on the east end of the table and was faoing north. Herwas view toward the front area of the Library but was obstruotedby other tables, Elmore was hiding under the west end of thetable. Elmore is a big girl and in her efforts to further hideunder the table, she was pushing Parker out from underneath thetable. Parker's viewing area changed during the shooting withinthe Library as Elmore and her moved in an attempt to furtherconceal themselves under the table. Parker's viewing areachanged during the shooting so she was looking more toward thesouth or back of the Library. Parker was trying to keep her eyesclosed during most of the shooting.

Parker then heard two people enter the Library. Shecould see only their feet and hath were wearing black shoes. Shetho~ght one of the individuals went to the east side of theLlbrary and the other proceeded to the front. She then heard one

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of them state, "everyone's afraid" and "look at the scared peopleunder the tables_" Prior to them coming in the Library, the firealarm was going off in the commons area_ The two gunmen went tothe east side of the Library first and were in that area forapproximately four to five minutes, The fire alarm was going offin the Library and was very loud, Parker could hear no speakingover the sounds of the fire alarm. They then went around thefront area of the Library to the west section of the Library_Parker could see their legs and feet as they were moving in thefront of the Library. One of the gunmen stopped and Parker couldhear him reloading his gun, The other gunmen continued to shootwhile the other was reloading. Parker could hear the gunmencommenting and heard one say jjreb" or "red" and one say a namestarting with D or V, She also heard one of gunmen state! "now Ifinally get my revenge" and also heard one of them state, "allthe jocks stand up." She heard a racial comment when they wereon the west side but does remember what they stated. Thisstatement was followed by gunfire. Parker could not recall howmany gunshots followed the statement_ Parker could not give aspecific sequence to the events or comments she heard on the eastor west sides of the Library.

The gunmen than came into the middle section fromseparate directions and met near teble #14_ parker did not seethem move into her section but stated she could hear and "feel"them moving. One of the gunmen asked where his backpack was andthis was followed by a statement of "oh there it is", The gunmanhad moved in a direction toward table #10 when he made thestatement_ Parker did not see him move in that direction butheard him moving up near table #10. Both gunmen moved and werestanding directing behind or to the south of her table_ parkercould hear one of the gunmen "going through" a backpack _ One ofthem than stated he had run out of ammo and state something tothe effect of "oh well, I'll Just use the shells" _ The next thingParker remembers was one of the gunman standing near her tabledressed in black jeans and wearing a mask. The gunman wasstanding at the southeast corner of her table and was pointing agun at Parker's head. The gun was net a shotgun and appeared tobe a dark silver/black or grayish gun_ Parker stared into ~he

barrel of the gun, She thought the gun was pointed directly ather for 30 seconds and stated it seemed like "an eternity".Parker could not describe what this gunmen looked like as she was

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concentrating solely on the gun. The gunman turned away from hertable and she heard one of the gunmen state to somebody undertable #11, "who's under there?". She did not hear a response andthen heard one of the gunmen state something to the effect of "ohhey, what; are you doing in here, we're gonna blow up the Library."When the gunman made this statement he was very calm and askedthe question with a little laughter in his voice. A boy namedJohn, with a last name that begins with the letter S, got up fromunder the table and apparently left the Library. Parker did notsee him leave the Library.

One of the gunmen than moved north of her table. Shethought it may have been the same gunman that had been pointing agun at her. She than heard several gunshots. This was followedby a comment from ~he other gunman of "did he try to grab you".The second gunman was standing behind Parker's table when he madethe comment. Parker looked ~p toward table #9 and saw Dan Mauserlaying on the floor. parker next heard gunfire behind her atwhat she thought was Corey DePooter's table (table #14). Parkerhad heard the gunmen shooting in the back of the middle sectionwhen they first oame into the section. Parker assumes that theywere shooting at a table behind her and that it was probablyDePooter's.

The next thing she remembers was hearing one of thegunmen state something to the effect of "I've always wanted to usea knife, you get more blood." The gunmen then talked aboutblowing up the Library. Parker could give no direction orlocation of the g~-~en when they made those comments. Both ofthe gunmen then W~ t to the southern part of the west side of theLibrary and were in that area for approximately five minutes.She heard one of them state something to the effect of "oh, itdidn't work". She thought they ,;ere shooting at the bookcasesbased upon the sounds she was hearing. A piece of blacktriangular plastic landed a couple of feet away from her on thefloor There continued to b~ more screaming and gunfire and moreexplosions. Parker does not specifically recall any of thedetails or sequence.

The Library than got quiet and it appeared to her thatthey had left the Library Approximately two to three minutesafter they left the Library, Parker could hear gunshots far awayfrem the Library in some other part of the school She heard

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some woman's voice from the front area of the Library state, "getout." A couple of other people yelled also to get out, Parkerinitially hesitated and then got up and ran to the front of theLibrary. She ran along the southside of the computer tables tothe west windows and than to the back door. When she ran by thecomputer tables, she saw a little or small white boy laying onthe ground, After going out the back door of the Library, sheran up the hill and got behind a police car. There were twopolice officers behind the car, Approximately 20 people hadgotten behind the police car and ten of those people had beenshot or were hurt, She thought some of them may have been fromthe cafeteria area.

Police cars began driving down to the car they werehiding behind to shuttle the students away from the area. Theinjured people were loaded in first and taken away, Parker wasloaded into an Explorer like vehicle and dropped off behind thehighest hill in Clement park. There a reporter let her use hiscell phone and she called her mom. She then walked to theneighborhood that the triage area had been Set up in, She waspicked up by her mom in that area. Parker was not contacted byany police officer for an interview at that tlme. She did notgive any media interviews that day or has she since.

Parker estimates the two gunmen were in the Library forapproximately 30 minutes. During this time, there wereexplosions going off causing the plaster from the ceiling to falldown. She remembers there being a lot of smoke in the Library,especially in the front area. She described the smoke as beinggunfire smOke. The majority of the time that the gunmen were inthe Library, parker had her head between her knees and was notlooking around. Parker could not describe whae the two gunmenlooked like but knew they were men based on their voices,

While the gunmen were in the Library, there were notmany moments when Parker was not hearing ~unfire or explosions,Parker can not specifically remember how many gunshots she heardfollow~ng Ccmments made by the gunmen. She does remembers at onepoint hearing a girl screaming real loud, "please don't. shoot me".She t.han heard gunfire and could no longer hear the girl'S voice.She was unable to give any direction within the Library for t.hegirl , how many gunshots she heard or when in the sequence ofevents this occurred

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Parker has a blue Jansport backpack with a pocketacross the front, The backpack has a big zipper that goes overand across the top of it, Her backpack contained only books andnotebooks and she left it probably on top of table #12, Parker'slocker is #1143, which is near the Gym and A,uditorium, Insideshe has a yellow eight-inch stuffed duck and other school papers,

Parker did not know Eric Harris or Dylan Kleboldpersonally or by name, She was aware of the Trenchcoat Mafiastudents, She knew them to be quiet and that they never talkedto anybody, They sat in the corner of the cafeteria, Withouttheir trenchcoats on she would not recognize any of the students,She knew Jeannie Plado to be an associate of that group. Pladohas long blonde hair and used to hang out with some of the peoplein the Trenchcoat Mafia.

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Connected to Jefferson county Sheriff's Department CR#99-762S

On 05/18/99, Det. Boatright (IO) was assigned DN#2418requesting he contact and interview Bree Pasquale. Within thenarrative of the lead, IO was informed Bree Pasquale was in thelibrary when the incident occurred on 04/20/99 and reportedly"begged for her life!! when confronted by one of the suspects. It:was decermined IO would contact and interview Bree Pasquale toconfirm her whereaboucs during the incident and any information shemay have relevant to this investigation. The aforementionedinterview was SCheduled to occur at the Jefferson County Hall ofJustice on 06/01/99.

On 06/01/99 at approximately 1310 hours, IO met with BreePasquale and her father, Victor Pasquale at the Jefferson CountyHall of Justice, The forenamed were subsequently escor~ed to thevic~im witness area, where a private office had been reserved forthis interview. !O subsequently confirmed with Bree Pas~Jale, sheis seventeen years of agel DOB: 12/31/81, and listed her hemeaddress as 3053 S. Uravan St, I Aurora, co 80013, phone: 303-617~

7479 Bree Pasquale verified she is presently a junior atColumbine High Schoel.

IO subsequently requested Eree Pasquale provide an accountof her activities on 04/20/99, beginning at the time she arrived atschool. Bree Pasquale stated on the day indicated l she was droppedoff at school by her father at approximately 0645 hours, BreePasquale clarified she ~s normally taken to school around that sametime on a regular basis. Bree Pasquale further verified whentaken to school, she is dropped off in the "fxont;" (east sided anduses che main entrance to gain access to the school, Bree Pasqualestated after being let off ac school, she would normally go to thelibrary, due to the fact her first period c Las a is "free, a 10veri:ied with Bre~ Pasquale on 04/20/99, after being lefe Off atscheol, she in fact went to the library, ar~iving there sometimearound 0650 hours. Bree Pasquale pointed out when arriving earlytor scheol (as was normally the casel, she would either go to oneof ~~e ccmpu~er tables or back to table #20 (per the d~agram) BreePas~~ale utilized a diagram of the library to identify herlocation.

On the date in quescion, IO verified with Bree Pasquale shearrived at school some time around 0645 hours and, from that point,went directly to the library where she remained until the secondperiod class started, Eree Pasquale explained this particular dacewas somewhat t.:..nusual, due to ::he fact there was a "DECA Banquet.. II

Bree Pasquale stated she did not to attend the banquet, which wasscheduled to occur during her second and third period classesSree Pasquale told IO as a resul~, she remalned in the librarydur~ng her second and third pe~iDd class IO confirmed with EreePas~~ale, af~er arriv~ng at school, she actually remained in theIlbrary f~om first through thi~d period, ?ur6~ant co ~Jestioning,

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Brae Pasquale stated she did not recall any unusual activlty in thelibrary during the first three classes.

Bree Pasquale stated she subseq~ently attended her fourthperiod class which began at approximately 1020 hours and concludedat approximately 1110 hours. Bres Pasquale identified her fourthperiod class as "American Literature," taught by !!Mrs. Jan Koskidy"(spelling provided by Pasquale). Bres Pasquale subsequently.idenc Lf i ed the location of her Amerlcan Literature class as llLA4, l!

Bree Pasquale utilized a floor plan diagram to identify the roomlocation of her fourth period class. 10 would note room I!LA4 11 islocated in the language art section of the school at the east endof the south hall

Bree Pasquale stated once her fourth period class ended, shethen decided to go back to the 1ibrary! pointing out she had I' Alunch." Bree Pasquale stated it was her usual procedure to go tot.he library Ln order to "catch up en work. '. Bree Pasquale statedan the date indicated, she recalled going to the library alone,When asked if she was in possession of any items when going to thelibrary, Bree Pasquale responded in the affirmative Bree pa$qualeindicated she was in possession of a "Ralph Lauren backpack l1 whichwas "dark blue ll in color. Bree l?aaqUale then paused, adding it waspossible her backpack was an "Adidas l1 brand, rather than 'IRalphLauren" According to Eree Pasquale I she walked to the library viathe nortb hall due to crowded conditions in the south hall.Pursuant to ~~estionins, Bree Pasquale stated she did not recallany unusual activities occurring at the school prier to this point.Bree pasquale then qualitied the above statement by reiteratingt he r e had been a I'DECA Banquet II which was an unusual activity atthe achoo l .

When asked if she recalled what time she a=rived at thelibrary! Bre~ Pasquale responded in the affirmative. Brae Pasqualereporced she knew she arr~ved in the library prior to the 1115bell, Bree Pasquale then seated it was possible she had actuallyar~~ved in the library approxima~ely five minutes before the 1115bell Sree Pasquale stated she believed she was let out of herfourth period class a few minutes early and had walked straightfrom that location down to the library.

Bree Pasquale stated when she entered the library, sherecalled sitting down at the south computer table (north side) atwh~ch time she began reading a magazine. aree Pasquale stated the:1<agazine she was reading was either a "Time or People." Ere:ePasquale added she remembered whichever magazine she was reading,there was an article on "urook Shields' divorce. It Brae Pasqualelater utilized a diagram of the library to iden~ify her location.

When asked what she recalled next, Bree Pasquale related herbas:'c recQllectl-cn was seeing various pecple Ilwalking in and outa:ld arou:1d the li.,brary" Bree Pasquale desc::,ibed the library as

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being somewhat "acc Lve . 'I Brae Paeque Le clarified t.heaforementioned activity was not particularly unusual, however, shenoted on this particular day, it just seemed to be lIa little moreactive . l'

Bree Pasquale estimated she had been reading the magazine forapproximately five to ten minutes, at which time she began to hear\'popping" sounds, Bz-ee Pasquale stated at that point i she believedshe: heard approximately "five'l popping sounds. Brae Pasquale went;on to relate the aforementioned "popping" sounds were coming fromoutside the library in what she estima~ed to be a northwesterlydirection.

1Q again handed Bree Pasquale a diagram of the library andrequested she iden~ify the location where she saC when she firstarrived at that location, 10 subsequently requested Bree Pasqualeco utillze the diagram when providing her recollection of thisincident.

IO subsequently summarized with Bree Pasquale she was seatedat the south computer table (north side) reading a magazine, afterwhich she began to hear tI pepping I' sounds IO subsequently askedBree pasquale to describe what occurred at that point. BreePasquale seated ir.iciallYr she did not notice anyone within thelibrary who appeared to be concerned or who had even acknowledgedhearing those same sounds. Bree Pasquale clarified after hearingthe sounds, she had looked around the library, but did not noticeany unusual activity Sree pasquale stated she believed she againfocused her attention on tha magazine: however, po~nted out thatonly lasted for a few moments. Bree Pasquale explained withinmcment s after refocusing he.r e t centfcn on the magazine, a "t.eache.r "whom ahe described as being female with "blond curly haLr" enteredthe library sho'cc Lnq. "there's a kid with a gun." Sxe.e Pasqualeclarified the teacher entered the library from the east andp~oceeded west through the library, eventually making her waybehi~d the main counter area. Bree pasquale cLar~fied the teacherthe~ seemed to wa:k back towards the east end of the counter andbegan to use the phone Bree Pasquale cold 10 at this point, shegot up from her seat and walked over to the west window.

When looking cut the west window, Bree Pasquale stated sheob aez-ved "DvLan at the top of the hill. to :1.0 first clarified withSree Pasquale she was ref~rring to Dylan Klebold and heridentification was based on news which depicced the forename'sphotograph. 10 further verified with Bree Pasquale she did notknow Dylan Klebold prior to this date Bree Pasquale was thenaa ked to describe t:he individual she identified as "Dylan, II Bree?asquale indicated the person she obser;ed at the top of the hillwas a white male in his late teens i wearing a "b Lack ball ca.pbackwards." Bz'ee Pasquale stated based on her recollection, shed~d no~ believe the ball cap was adjustable, addi~g she chcught itwas sized or fitted. Bres pasquale went on to state that

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individual was wearing a Illong black duster jacket" with a blackt-shirt, black pan~s{ and black boots When asked if theindividual was holding a weapon, Bree Pasq~ale responded in theaffirmative, stating "he was holding a pipe bomb. II aree Pasqualedescribed the pipe bomb as the size of a Ilsmall aerosol can or aladies aerobic weight." Bree Pasquale clarified she determined theitem was a pipe bomb after she observed the forenamed throw it intothe parking lot and it exploded.

At that point, IO stopped Brae Pasquale and asked her tof~r~her clarify where Dylan Klebold was located when she firstcbeez-ved him "a t; t he top of the hill.'" Bree pasquale subsequentlyreferred to the diagram she was provided and placed an "X" wit.h thename "Dylan» underneath to identify the location where he had beenseen, IO would note Dazed on the location of the diagram, DylanKlebold would have been to the west of the bu~lding, just south ofthe west entranCe, Bree Pasquale added Dylan Klebold waa locatednear the top of the steps which led down from the west entrance tothe commons area,

10 SUbsequently asked Bree Pasquale to describe what occurredwhen she observed Dylan Klebold at the location indicated, BreePasquale report.ed she then observed Dylan Klebold throw t:he "pipebomb" down into the south parking lot, According to sree Pasquale,the pipe bomb landed behind a line of cars which were parked facingno'rt.h . Bz ee Pasquale stat.ed momenta later, the "pIpe bomb"exploded, adding Hit didn! t seem like a oig explosion." When askedto describe eha explosion, Bree ?asquale indicated she heard thedevice explode and then saw a cloud of smoke begin to arise fromwhere the device detonated. Bree Pasquale described the smoke as"cl oudy gray" in color.

Bree Pasquale was asked if she made any additiocalobservations from the west library window. Brae Pasquale respondedin the affirmative. Bree Pasquale stated when looking down cowardsthe ground, :she observed a student lying at the "edge of the grassac t~e pottom of the hill,n Brae Pasquale stated it appeared as~hough the student was injured, due to the fact, she could see hewas bleeding heavily. When asked for further clarification, BreePasquale stated, "There was -3. lot of blood under him. 'I When a sk.edif she made any other observations related to that student, SreePasquale responded in the affirmat~ve. Eree Pasquale stated shebelieved she saw a "s'Oilled careen of milk" near where that studentwas lying. Bree ?~s~ale then util~zed the diagram to indicatewhere she had seen the student. Bree pasquale wrote the word,Jlkid" or: ':he Lcca t Lcn of the diagram whe r e she believed he wouldhave been located"

Eree Pasquale wenc on to state as she continued to look downin ::.hat. same area, she also observed near the llcorner on thesidewalk" two becknacks , one of which she believed was a «uenspcrcbra~d, which was black in color Bree Pasquale subse~~ently drew

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those backpacks on the diagram. At the same time, Erea Pasqualed~as~amed the location where she had seen Dylan Klebold throwthe "p i.pe bomb " which subsequently exploded.

When asked what she recalled occurring next, Bree ~asquale

stated she subsequently obserrea Dylan Klebold proceed south do~n

the hill, past where the student was lying Bree Pasquale statedDylan Klebold then appeared to make entry into the commons area,via a west door entrance. Bree Pas~~ale told 10 she could netconfirm that Dylan Klebold actually entered the commons area, butindicated based on her vantage point, that is where it appeared hewent. 8ree Pasquale added while making the above observation, shewas scarting to mOve south in the library towards table #19. As8ree Pas~~ale continued to examine the diagram, she stated she wassomewhat confused regarding th~ positioning of the tables. BreePasquale stated it did not appear as though the tables were spacedproperly, adding there was an additional bookshelf which was notdepicted in the diagram. Bree pasquale subsequently drew in abookshelf where she believed it was located on the date inquestion. IO would note the bookshelf was drawn at a locationwh~ch would be south an the diagram. Bree Pasquale also pointedout she believed the alignment of the bookshelves were somewhatdistorted, 10 sUbsequently explained to Bxee pasquale the diagramwas not to scale and was simply being used to identify studentlocations and movements,

Bree Pasquale indicated she believed she sat down near table#19, however, pointed out she believed the ends of ~he table wereactually facing north and south. Brae pasquale nex~ indicated itwas possible she was located back by table #20, however, did notbelieve there was enough room between table #20 and the wall inorder to accommodate the people {including berselfj who were atthat locacion. IO again told Bree Pas~Jale the diagram was not toscale. IO subsequently reques~ed Bree Pasquale simply identify thelocation she believed she had gone when the incident started. BraePasquale stated she believed she would have been located next totable #19, however, reiterated she believed the table actually wasfaci~g a similar direction as noted in table #20. For ~~rpo$es ofthe diagram, Bree Pa$q~ale s~ated she was going to identify herlocation as table #19. rn respect to that issue, to asked Bz-eePasquale If she recalled the date she was allowed to tour thelibrary 'while accompanied by 10 {OS!28/99J. Bzee Pasqualeresponded in the affirmative. IO asked Bree Pasquale if sheremembered identifying the table she was located at when theincident occurred on 04/20/99, Bree pasquale responded in theaffirmative, reiterating everything was in its proper perspectlvewhen she was phYB~cally present in the librarj, When asked if shewas certa~n regarding the table she identified that dace, Bree?asq~ale again responded in the affirmacivec IO would note on thedate 10 escorted Bree pasquale and her father into the library{after the incidect on 04/20/99) [ Bree Pasq~ale identified herposiclon as west of cable #20 10 did not correct Bree Pasquale

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regarding the diagram, due to the fact it was not drawn to scaleand she had done an adequate job of explaining where she believedshe was located on the date in question.

Continuing with Bree Pasquale's statement, the forenamedreiterated aa she observed Dylan Klebold d~sappear Out of sight,lasit appeared he was entering the commons area), the forenamed statedshe realized the situation was, in face. serious, Bree Pasqualeindicated as she moved south in the library, she eventually stoppedwest of table #19 where other studen~s were located. Bree pasqualeindicated when arriving at that location, she remembered seeingAndrew Pair and Aaron Cohn. Bree Pasquale clarified she was notable to physically get underneath a table due to the fact otherstudents (in addition to those named} had taken up a position underthat same table. Brae Pasquale pointed out there wereapproximately three to four students under ~he table l while shealong with one to two other students, were located just west of thetable. Bree Pasquale went on to state by this point, the "teacher"had made numerous requests for the students to get underneath thetables, adding that most had complied, Bree Pasquale reported dueto the face she was not able to ac~ually set underneath the table,she simply sat down at the location previously indicated (facingnortheast). Pursuant to questioning, Bres pasquale stated theother students who were unable to get underneath the table (nearher location) were either sitting or lying down. Eree Pasquale wasunable to be more specific concerning that point, Bree Pasqualedid indicate the students who were able to get underneath the tableappeared to be in a seated position,

When asked if she recalled seeing students at other locationsin the library, Bree Pasq~ale responded in the affirmative. EreePasquale stated she specifically recalled Cassie Eernall lreferredco by paequa Le as j'Cassie"} being located directly to her northunder table #lS. Bree pasquale then qualified the above statementsby indi~ating if I in fact, she was located at table #20, CassieBer~al1 would have been located under table #19. Bree Pasqualethen stated. II I saw what: happened to her 11 IO told Bz-ee Pasqualethey would discuss chat at some point later in this interview.

When asked to conti~ue with other students she had seenconcealed under tables near her location, Sree Pasquale againreferenced the table where Cassie Bernall was located, adding, N!know there was at least one other girl under that cable, but!dcnt t; know her name. l> Br-ee Pasquale next made reference to table#17, stating she knew "Cxa i.g" (Scott) and 'lIsaiah ll (Shoelsl werelocaked under that table. Bree Pasquale added; she had informationrelevant to what occurred with Isaiah Shoels when he waS confrontedby the suspects. 10 again ~old Sree Pasquale he would discuss thatissue wlth her later in the interview,

~s 9~ee Pasquale continued to chink, the forenamed stated she

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also knew there were students who had concealed themselves underthe south side of the south computer table {west endl When askedif she could be more specific, aree Pasquale stated she knew therewere at least three students at that locat~on, two of which shebelieved were females, wh~le one was a male. Bree Pasquale relatedshe did not knew those students by name.

When asked what occurred next, Bree Pasquale stated sherecalled having a ve~/ brief conversation with Isaiah Shoels, BreePasquale indicated a short time after sitting down next to thetable, she looked over and made eye contact with Isaiah Shoels,aree Pasquale stated Isaiah Shoels then asked, II What , s gain' ons"Erae Pasquale told IO she responded to Isaiah Shoels by indicating,"someone's outside with a pipe bomb," oree sesquaje stated shef~rther indicated to Isaiah Sheels, she believed the individualwi t.h the "pipe bomb u was a former student at Columbine High School,8ree Pasquale stated she remembered telling Isaiah Shoels she didnot recogn~ze the student.

Brae Pasquale next recalled the library becoming very quiet.Bree Pasquale stated to her knowledge no one was speaking or movingat that point, Bree Pasquale related after a brief period ofquiet, she remembered hearing what; she oe Laeved were llexplosionsdo~nstairs,~ Eree Pasquale related she could also hear what shethought. were "gunshots in the hall H followed by l'screaming, " BreePasquale told 10 she did not recall the exact number of explosionsor ounshots she heard, but clarified the aforementioned sounds werespo;adic and occurred over a one to two minute time period, priorto the suspects entering the library.

Bree pasquale stated her next recollect.ion occurred at thepoint she heard a "expIoe i.on" and suoeequentJy saw u smoke , 'I BreePas~~ale described that event occurring somewhere up towards themain counter of the library. Immediately after making thatobservation, eree Pasquale saw Dylan Klebold walking west betweenthe two computer tables. Bree Pasquale specifically recalledseeing Dylan Klebold putting his hand into his right pant pocket inan effort to either retrieve an item or place an item back into thepccxet Bree Pasquale stated she specifically remembered seeingDylan Klebold "smile and laugh" as he looked down towards theground in an easterly direction. When asked for furtherclarification concerning that poine, Bree Pasquale explained asDylan Klebold walked in a westerly direction between the twocomputer tables, she remembered the forenamed "smile and. laugh" ashe tur~ed back (towards the east) and looked down towards theground. Bree pasquale clarir2ed she did not bel~eve Dylan Kleboldstopped at that poine, but continued walking west until he reachedthe end of the computer tables,

Bree Pascruale furcner indicated as Dylan Klebold continuedwa:king west bet~een the computer tables, she remembered hearinghi::" sc ac e , "All you jocks stand up," Bzee Pasquale added she also

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believed Dylan Klebold had made reference to students wearing"wb.i.t e hats, " IO subsequently e aked Bree Pasquale what. DylanKlebold was wearing when he entered the library, aree Pasqualetold 10 Dylan Klebold was wearing the same clothing she previouslydescribed when she first observed him standing outside on the"hill." Bree Pasquale did add, when Dyla.n Klebold entered thelibrary, ~he remembered seeing the forenamed carrying what appearedto be a "smaller machine gun"!l Brae pasquale went on to explainthe "me.chd.ne gunll was on a "atrep'' which she remembered seeingDylan Klebold "gxab." When asked to clarify that: statement, BreePas~~ale related around the time frame Dylan Klebold had told theol jocks to stand up, i~ she remembered seeing the forenamed holdingt he "machine gun" which was on the "strap. \I Bree Pasquale wagunable to be more specific concerning that point.

Bree Pasquale next stated as she continued to reflect on theincident, she believed one of the suspects had fired 'Ia, couple ofshots when they first came in." Bree paaqueLe further Lnd.ice r.ed itwas possible Dylan Klebold had fired a weapon soon after enteringthe library, thus, explaining the explosion and smoke she observedjust prior to seeing Dylan Klebold.

IO asked Bree Pasquale to continue with her explanationbeginning from the point she recalled Dylan Klebold orderingstudents to stand up_ Bree Pasquale related she also rememberedhearing either Dyl~~ Klebold or the second suspect make statementsabout ('getting revenge." aree paaqua.Le added she heard one ofthe suspec~s state, uThis is for all you put us through this lastyear. 'I

IO clarif~ed with Bree Pasquale all of the events shedescribed above occurred moments after she first saw Dylan Kleboldenter the library and proceed west between the two computer tables.Bree Pasquale pointed out she could not be certain in terms ofwhich suspect made what statements. When asked if she knew therewas a second suspect in the libra~/ at this point, aree Pasqualeresponded in the affirmative, Bree pasquale explained momentsafter Dylan Klebold had passed between the two computer tables, hewas followed by Eric Harris. When asked how far Eric Harris wasbehind Oylan Klebold when enteri~g the library, Bree pasqualee r.ec ed . "He was just a litt.le bit behind him, 'I Bree Pasqualerelated it was due to the above situation (the suspects enteringalmost simultaneously) that she could not be exactly certain as towho made what statements,

Brae Pa$q~al~ was sUbsequently asked to describe Eric HarrisBrae Pasquale seated Eric Harris was a white male in his late teenswith "short darker hair fl (as compared to Dylan Kleboldl and was:.vearing a white t-shirt with a "black veet . 'I Bree pasquale addedthe "black vest" had 'ired things hanging on it, t. Bres Pasqualefu r t he r- indicated Eric Harris was wearing '!dark colored .l\rmypa~ts \0 Bree Pasquale told IO, even -::ho1,lgh she had heard news

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reports, the suspects were wearing qblack trench coats," she wascertain Eric Harris did not have one when she saw him in thelibrary. According to Bree Pasquale, she did not know Eric Harrisprior to this date. Bree Pasquale stated she was able to identifyEric Harris from photos she had seen of him depicted in the media.

IO asked Bree Pasquale to continue with her explanation at thepoint the two suspecte walked between the computer tables in awesterly direction. Bree Pasquale stated once Dylan Klebold hadreaChed the end of ~he computer tables, he stopped while EricHarris continued walking and was observed turning to hiz left{south) walking past. the west wtnocws towards the "blue chair. 'I

Bree Pasquale seated there was a blue cloth chair positioned justsouthwest of the furthest south computer table. Bree Pasqualeclarified Eric Harris continued walking around the furthest southcomputer table and then positioned himself down on his left kneenorthwest of table #18. Bree Pasquale explained just prior to EricHarris going down on a knee, she heard Dylan Klebold announce. "thepigs are here. II Bzee Pasquale stated at that point., Eric Harristired two to three shoes out the west library window from thekneeling position, Bree Pasquale reported Dylan Klebold thenwalked behind Eric Harris and crouched down. 10 confirmed DylanKlebcld would have then been directly north of table #18. Whenasked if he too was down on one knee, Bree Pasquale stated she wasuncertain, but k.new that: he had "got low liO he wasn't a bigtarget." Brae Pasquale pOlnted out a few seconds later, DylanKlebold stood up and started firing in a westerly direction. BreePasquale stated she assumed Dylan Klebold was shooting out the westlibrary windows.

When asked to identify the weapons being fired out the window,Eree pasquale seated she believed Eric Harris had a "shotgun" thatwas possibly 11 sawed off _'I !n respect to Dylan xj ebofd , BreaPasquale stated she also believed that individual was firing ashotgun, but pointed out it was somewhat different than the onebeing used by Eric Harris. When asked about the difference, BraePasquale stated she knew for certain Eric Harris' shotgun ws s "t.hekind you pulled back,n (referring to the fore stalk) Bree Pasqualeindicated she d~d not believe Dylan Klebold's weapon was similar inthat: regard.

When asked what occurred nex~, Bree Pasquale seated sherecalled seeing Eric Harris turn towards the south computer tablesand begin firing Bree Pasquale stated it did not appear as thoughEric Harris stood up, but she could not be certain that he wasstill on one knee, IO clarified with Bree Pasquale when sheobserved Eric Harris turn towards the computer tables, he was stillin a low nosition. 10 further clarified at the time Eric Harrisbegan firing in che direction of the south computer table l he was5til~ using the shotgun When asked how many times he fired theweapon, Bree Pasquale stated she was uncertain, but it was herimpression at the time, the forenamed was shooting the st~dents who

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were hiding underneath that table. Bree Pasquale explained sheonly actually saw one of the students shot. When asked toe Leoor-ac e , aree Pasquale stated the girl who was facing Heast!! was"shot in the shoulder. 11 Bzee Pasquale then drew an arrow on thediagram depicting the angle in which she was Eric Harris fire theweapon at the student under the computer table. Brae Pasquale wenton to state there was another student (possible female) who wasfacing west j but she did not know if that individual haq been shot.IO reconfirmed with Bree Pasquale she initially had seen threestudents hiding ~~der the south oomputer table. Bree pasqualeclarified the students she refexred to above were the ones furthesteast. Bree Pasquale pointed out there was at least one otherstudent located to the far west underneath the south computercable, however, she could not see that person due to the positionof Eric Harris.

IO clarified with Bree Pasquale a female student who waspositioned under the south computer tables had been shot in theshoulder by Eric Harris. When asked if she heard any add2tionalshots at that time/ Brae pasquale stated she was uncertain, BreePas~Jale reiterated she could only be certain one of the studentsunder the south computer table had been shot. Bree Pasquale againreferred to the female who was shot in the shoulder. At thatpoine, Eree Pasquale added she later saw that same female studentoutside receiving first aid. Brae Pasquale next relatedshe saw what she believed was "white plaetic" in the wound, Braepasquale clarified she was referring to seeing the victim's woundfrom the IIfrcnt" atter they had been evacuated. Bree pasquale didpoint out it was her impression, based on the posicion the victimwas sitting that she had act~ally been shot from behind.

Brae Pasquale stated once Eric Harris had shot the femalestudent (referred to above;, he then stood up and walked to thesouth side of che table, where Cassie Bernall was locaced. Breepasquale stated Cassie Bernall was seated underneath the table,facing east. Bree pasquale added she distinctly recalled CassieBernall having her hands up covering the sides of her face.

Bree Pas~~ale continued with her explanation by seating onceErlc Harris had walked around to the south side of the table, hethen slapped the table twice with his left hand and stated,I'peek-a-boo." Brae Pasquale indicated Eric Harris then bent dawn,holdi~g the shotgun in his right hand. Pursuant to questioning,Bree Pasquale stated Sric Harris kept his left hand on top of the~able. Bree pas~~ale went on to state, once sric Harris had oentdo~ and pointed the shat~n under the table, he then fired theweapon once,

Bree Pasq~ale reported l once the gun had been fired, she sawEric Harris pUll back on the fore stalk and eject a red shellcas~ng which then fell to the floor Bree Pasquale $~ated EricHar~is was now in a crouched pcsition j balancing on the balls of

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his feet. Bre~ pa$qual~ reported when she looked back at CassieBernall, she could see the victim had been shot ~n the right s~de

of the head and there was Ils moke lJ coming from the wound. BresPasq~ale went on to state she also recalled seeing blood flowingdown on to the victim's right shoulder, adding she was wearing a"light green shirt. '1

Bree Pasquale stated, she then laid down on her right side andasked Aa~on Cohn to hold her hand. Bres Pasquale stated she wasvery frightened at that time. B~ee Pasquale went on to describeA.aron Cohn lying on his left side as she was Hpractically on top ofhim." Bree pasquale stated at that point, she had not taken hereyes off of Eric Harris, due to the suspect's close proximity.

Sree Pasquale explained as she continued to watch Eric Harris,the forenamed stood up briefly and then turned to the south (nowfacing Brea Pasquale}. Bree Pasquale stated Er~c Harris then tookone to two steps in her dlrection and then bent down, reat~ng theshotgun acrose his thighs. Bres pasquale described Eric Harris'position as "squatting U balancing on the balls of his feet. BreePasquale next noticed blood began to flow from ooth nostrils ofEric Harris' nose. According to Bree Pas~~ale! Eric Harrig thenannounced, 'fT hit myself in the face." Bree Pasquale explainedEric Harris was looking in her direction when he made thatstatement. but believed the comment was intended for nylan Klebold.When asked if she knew what had struck Eric Harris in the face,Bree Pasquale responded in the negative.

Sree Pa$q~ale next stated Eric Harris began poin~in9 theshotgun at she and the others in her same area, Bree PasqualeclariEied Eric Harris was only a few feet away when engaging in theabove action. speciflcally, Bree Pasquale described Eric Harris as"swinging it back and forth" (referring to the shotgun) areePasquale stated a~ one point, Eric narris stopped moving theshotgun and pointed it directly at her. Bree pasquale related itwas around that same time she heard a "gunshot" and concluded DylanKlebold had just fired his weapon. IO verified with Bree pasqualethe above observation was based on the fact she was looking at EricHarris and his weapon had not fired,

When asked if she knew where Dylan Klebcld was located whenshe heard the guashot. Eree Pasquale stated the forenamed wasstanding towards the east end of the south computer table. BreePasquale recalled after hearlng what she believed was Dylan Kleboldfirin his weapon, she then d him begin laughing and stated,

Sree ~asquale stated she than

Bree pasquale stated when she looked back in the direction of£rlC Harris, the forenamed was now staring her straight in theface Brea pasquale recalled Eric Sarris asking her more than onceif she "wanted to die II Br-ee Peequa Le stated ahe repeatedly

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responded, Uno. 'I nree Pasquale stated after responding no Eor thelast time, she recalled Eric Harris laughing and stating,"evez-yorie t a going to die." aree Pasquale then heard Dylan Kleboldstate to Eric Harris, "ahoot; her,'~ According to Sre-e l?asquale,Eric Harris replied, «nc , we're gonna' blow up the school anyway."Brea Pasquale lndicated Eric Harris was still pointing the shotgunat her when making that statement

According to Dree Pasquale, during that. interaction, EricHarris appeared to become distracted/ which caused him to turn awayto the ease. Brae pasquale stated it was at that point she beganto hear Isaiah sbceLs saying something about "mom" and "hcme . II

Brea Pasquale stated she could not recall anymore specifics interms of what Isaiah Shoels was saying.

Bree Pasquale told 10 mow~nts after Eric Harris had looked offto the east, and she had heard Isaiah Shoels make the abovecomments, Eric Harris then stated, "Ob. look, it's a nigger. II BxeePasquale ~hen recalled Eric Harris standing up and walking over tothe west side of table #17. area PAsquale then heard Isaiah Sheelastate, "nah, nah,A Brae Pasquale related Eric Harris then pointedthe shotgun unde=neath table #17 and fired it once. According toBree Pasquale, she then saw f aaLah Shoe-Is "s Iumped over" on toanother male student. Bree Pasquale was unable to identify thatstudent. When asked about Isaiah Shoels' positioning under thetable, Bree Pasquale stated she knew his head was pointing towardsthe east while his feet were towards ~he west, Bree ?asquale wasunable to provide any additional information related to chatsituation

When asked what she recalled occurring nex~, Srea Pasqualestated she looked up to the table where Cassie Bernal1 was located.Bree Pasquale specifically made reference LO the unidentifiedfemale student who was also located under that table. BreePasquale stated that student was now on her knees (facing west) andappeared to be "very scared." When asked how she was able to makethat determination, Bree Pasquale stated it appeared as though thatstudent was "biting her hands."

Bree Pasquale related she next observed Eric Harris walk a fewsteps to the south, placing him jus~ west of table j16, SreePasquale stated at that point/ she observed Eric Harris throw whatshe believed was a "p i pe bomb'; W'hich eventually carne to restsomewhere south of table #20, Eree pasquale explained there wasthen a small e~~losion Bree Pasquale told IO the aforementionedexplosion seemed to be very emaLl,, a.dding she had seen ';fireworkson the fourth of July'l which seemed to be "more powerful." Forpurposes of clarification on the date 10 escorted Brea Pasq~ale andher father through the library, the forenamed had pointed out aburn mark on the carpet, where she indicated the above mentioneddevice had detonated, IO would note the burn mark on the carpetwas located south of the tables on the far wes~ side of the

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librarf. In addition, when 10 had previously met with BreePasquale while in the library, the forenamed had idencified table#16 as the location where Isaiah Shoela waS located at the time hewas shot. As previously noted, ~t appeared as though Bree Pasqualehad become confused When using the diagram, in that her orientationas to the location of the tables needed to be adjusted slightly tothe south" IO did have Bree Pasquale place an X on the diagramWhere she had seen the device detonate,

Bree Pasquale stated after the device detonated, it waspossible there were a couple of more gunshots on the west side ofthe library, however, she did not see who was shooting. BreePasquale did state she was certain she had seen Eric Harris moveback towards the south end of the library and then jump up on abookshelf and begin swearing and shaking it back and forth Bree~asquale seated it seemed to her as if Eric Harris was trying toknock over the bookshelf, but failed, Bree Pasquale indicated itappeared as though Eric Harris was becoming angry when he wasunable to knock over the bookshelf and subsequently, ~kicked thebooks," Bree Pa.squale stated it was possible same of the books hadfallen off the shelf at that point. Bree Pasquale was unable ~c bemere specific concerning that issue and was also unable tospecifically identify which bookshelf Eri9 Harris had jumped onto.For purposes of clarification, Bree Pasquale could not recallwhether Eric Harris had jumped onto the furthest south bookshelf orif it was one of the bookshelves located in the center of thelibrar/. Sree Pasquale was certain, after Eric Harris had shOOkthe bookshelves and become frustrated, he then walked between them,after which she lost sigh~ of the suspect. Bree Pasquale statedshe did not recall seeing Dylan Klebold on the west side of thelibrary since he was last seen north of her location in the west$ec~ion. Brae pasquale concluded Dylan Klebold walked north of thetables to arrive at the east side of the library, due to the factshe did not see him walk past her to the south, nor did she see himwalk through the openings in the bookshelves

Sree Pasquale went on to describe moments later seeing DylanKlebold shoot through the glass display case located near the eastlibrary doors. Bree Pasquale indicated Dylan Klebold was on thenorth side of the display case when he fired at it. Bree Pasqualecould not be anymore specific regarding that point,

aree Pasquale stated once she had lost sight of the suspects,she was uncertain as to what they were doing. Bree Pasquale didindicate she knew the suspects had not lefc the library yet, due tothe fact she could hear additional gunshots coming from the eastside of the libra~'. Bree Pasquale clarified once Eric Harris hadwalked between the bookshelves, she did not see either of thesuspects Qgain {with one exception noted above), thus, she couldnot confirm any of their activi~ies in the library, other than torepeat the fact she heard gunshots from the east section,

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Bree Pasquale indicated a short time later, she thought shebegan to hear explosions or gunshots coming from the hall directlyoutside the library. When asked how long she thought the suspectshad been in the library, Bree Pasquale estimated somewhere between10 to 15 minutes, Bree Pasquale wene on to state she feltrelatively certain the suspects had left the library when she beganto hear either explosions or g~~$hots coming from what she thoughtwas the commons area.

Bree pasquale stated once she felt confident the suspects hadleft tha library, she then quietly called to the girl who waslocated under the table with Cassie Bernall. Bree Pasquale statedshe then told the unidentified student to come back ~o herlocation. According to Bree Pasquale, the student complied withher request and subsequently, crawled Over on her hands and knees.

Brae Pasquale related within moments of that studentresponding to her location, she saw Craig Scott moving north in thelibrary and eventually providing assistance to the l!girl who wasshot in the shoulder.~ Bree Pasquale seated she observed CraigScotc assist that student out from underneath the south computertable and proceed north through the library. Bree Pasquale statedat that point I she decided she too was going to leave the library.Bree Pasquale then told those around her they should leave,According to Bree Pasquale I several students responded to her bystating, "no."

Brae Pasquale told IO even though no one in her group wantedto leave, she decided to get up and leave through the northemergency exit. Sree Pasquale stated as she stood up, she thenlooked over in the direction of the table where Isaiah Shoels waslocated. Bree Pasquale stated when looking under that table, shecould see blood around the head area of Isaiah Shoels. BreePasquale stated it did not appear as though Isaiah Shoela wasmoving. ~ree Pasquale made no other observations related to thattable.

Bree pasquale stated as she continued moving north ~n thelib~ary, Sh8 eventually reached the hallway which led to the northemergency exit deor Brae Pasquale stated when arriving at thatlocation, she joined a group of students who were simply standingin the hall which led to the north emergency door exit. BreePasquale then recalled a couple of those students proceed west intoan office (off of the hallway;. Bree Pasquale stated she knew fromprior experience, those offices did net have an exit, fearing ifthey entered that room, the suspects could possibly return, thusthey would be trapped. Bree Pasquale told IO when seeing thestudents begin to en~er that office, she told them to stop, whichthey reportedly did. Bree Pasquale then proceeded north in thehall and believed she was followed by several students, BraePasquale stated when she reached the north exit door, she thenmoved a '1 cart" which was blocking the doorway exit. Bxee Pasquale

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then opened che door and proceeded outside the library. BraePasquale stated, at that point, she observed a marked police unitparked to the northwest of her location. Brae Pasquale stated shesUbsequently ran to that location. Bree ~asquale indicated shethen took up a posic"on behind the patrol car, after which she wasjoined by numerous other students. Bree Pasquale estimated at onepoint, there were approximately 30 studencs hiding behind that samepolice car.

When asked what she recalled occurring at that point, SreePasquale stated she remembered trying to assist Jenna Park. who hada Jlleg wound v " Bree pasquale stated, !I'.....e ll tied a jacket around thevictimig leg wound in an effort to control the bleeding, SreePasquale related she believed Jenna ?ark indicated she had alsobeen ahot in the back, however, that information was not verified.Bree Pasquale did recall asking the forenamed about "pz-cm" in aneffort to keep ~he vic=im alert,

Bree Pasquale related she had addicional recollections relatedto events occurring while concealing themselves behind the patrolcar. Specifically, Bree Pa$quale recalled seeing Makai Hall beingattended co by other students, Bree Pa$quale stated shespecifically remerrbered several students who were bleeding andappeared to be serious injured, Bree Pasquale then refe~red to thefemale victim she had previously seen shot in the shoulde~. SreePasquale did net have any additional information related to thatsituation,

Bree Pasquale stated prior to being evacuated from the area,she did remember seeing various students who appeared to be runningout into the senior lot (located to the south}. Bree Pasqualestated she was uncertain as to where those students had come fromprior to running into the parking lot, Bree Pasquale also reportedseeing students "going to the baseball field ll and going over a"fence" located to the south of the school, aree Pasquale relatedshe believed she had been concealed behind the patrol car torapproximately ten minutes prior to being removed from chat area byother police vehicles. Bree Pasquale clarified she was taken to aplace of safety located in a residential area by one of the policeofficers. Bree pasquale indicated she did not believe she had anyadditional information related to this investigation, IOsUbsequently concluded his contact with Bree Pasquale,

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On 05-il.99 at about 0900 hrs., this Investigator responded to 6356 S. Pierce Court andcontacted:

PEREZ, DIWATAMIRABELDOB: 03-14-81(303) 932-9770

Perez related she and Jeanna Park went into the library between 1115 to 1119 brs. Theywent to table 2 because they knew the girls there. Jessica Holliday was there when theysat down, however, she got up to talk to someone else. Holliday spoke with AmberHuntington.

Perez indicated they were talking about school and Lisa Kreutz was doing her collegeapplication. At about 1120 to 1122 hrs., Ms. Nielsen came in. She said there are somekids out there with guns. Nielsenran to the phone behind the counter. When she was onthe phone,she yelled for the kids to get down.

Everyone at her table looked at each other. Initially, she did not hear anything. Theywere st:iJl standing up. As they began to get down, they heard gun shots. They wereoutside the library and sounded pretty close. They began to hear people screamingdownstairs in the Commons.

Perez related the teacher kept yelling at them. Perez thought it was a senior prank. Sheheard some more gun shots. Then a bomb exploded. Dylan Klebold walked into thelibrary witha shotgun. Perez related she did not knowhis name at the time, just his face.

Perez identified the two suspects as follows;

It I. Dylan Klebold • black trench coat, black bat onbackwards with a red bill, blondish brown hair. unknownpants. She commented something was in her way.

Perez related she sawa gun. She said the gun bad a short barrel and was banging downfrom his right side. At one point, Klebold turned and was waiting for Eric Harris.Klebold was lookingtowards the entranceto the library.

# 2. Eric Harris. Came into the library second. Perez saidit is tUzzy, she cannot seehim come in. Harris was wearinga blackshirt, no trenchcoat and lightblown hair.

Perez said she saw both of them come in. Klebold wasjust waiting. She saw Eric Harris'profile. They were side byside.

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Perez related she saw Eric's profile. She knew it wasEric Harris, as he was in one of herprior classes. Sheknew it was Harriswhen shesaw him.

\Vhen they entered the library, they went to the furthest end, first. No shots were fired.Theywere talking and yelling at the people. One said,"You guys can't do anything aboutthis."

At this point, they see Isaiah. Theywere making comments towards him. They calledhima nigger. Also something about a black person. They just made racial comments. Sheheardgunshots, then a girl screamed and thete weremore shots. This all occurred on thefur sideof the library .

Perez relatedunder her table, JeannaPark wanted to get her sister. Perez told her to calmdown and don't get up. Perez indicated they started shooting at the bookshelves. It isunknown to Perez where this took place.

Perez remembers at one point, someone says there's a kid under there by himself Theperson asked, "Hey kid, what's your name?" The kid replied, "My name is John Savage."The personreplied, "We likeyou, we arenot goingto kill you."

The shooters now came closer to perez's section. They were behind her. Perez heardbookshelves getting shot by where they were at. The glass display case then gets shot.LisaKreutz screams. Perez was hugging Lisa and telling her to calm down. Perez is nowcoveredby the side ofthe table and a chair.

Perez then placed an X on her drawing, showing the locationof the shooters. They werebetween tables 1 and 3. Perez relates she just saw feet. Kreutz screams and she seesLauten Townsendget shot. Perez told how she sawTownsend's heed full.

There was a rapid second shot and she saw Kreutz's wrist get shot. Perez said the secondshooter had a rapid firegun and was shooting also. Vai Schnurr gets shot. She stands upand says, "You guys, I am bleeding."

Perez relates her head was under the table. She saw feet on her side. Schnurr stood upand Perez changedher head positionto the other side.

One ofthe shooters, possibly Eric Harris, asks Schnurr ifshe believes in God. Initially shesays no, then I don't know, then she says yes. The person asks Schnurr, "Why?" Shereplies, "Becauseof the way my parents taught me." Perez says the shooters are possiblyreloading at this point. Whenaskedhow she knows this, Perez saysthat one said they hadto reload.

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Suddenly, he started shooting under the table again. Shebelieves it was a shotgun. Perezsaid she felt Kreutz get shot as her whole body moved towards her. perez feJt the blastfromthe gun. JeannaPark rell away fromPerez. Park thenmovedand was on her side.

Kreutz said she was bleeding. Schnurr said she was dying. Park and Townsend did notsay anything. It is unknown where the shooters went after leaving their table. Perez saidafter awhile, the shooters saidsomething about settingoff somebombs.

Perez said about five to ten seconds later, she felt a bomb go off. She could feel thevibration. Shebelieves the suspectspossibly set off three bombsin the library.

At some point, someone yells for everyone to get out. Perez does not know where thesuspects went. Perez peaked her head out and saw some kids running out. Perez tried toget Townsend up. Kreutz was bleeding. Perez saw Jeanna Park, who was conscious.Pereztold Park, "Ifyou want to get out, youhave to get out now."

Perez ran in front ofPark. When Perez got out, Park came out about five to len secondslater. Someone came out after Park. It isunknownto Perezwho this personwas. Onceoutside, they were behinda police car. KathyPark was yelling at her sister, saying, "Youhaveto be OK." Perez was telling Kathy Park to calm down. Perez tried to keep JeannaPark conscious. She took her shirt and gave it to Jeanna, Schnurr also talked aboutgelling shot.

The policeofficer told the kids to stay down. The rescue squad came about five minuteslateralong with two other policecars. This Investigator askedPerez Ifshe ever saw morethan two shooters and she replied, "I never heard or sawmore than these two."

This Investigator asked Perez ifshe bed a back pack and she related it was at the side ofher table. Her is a navy blue, East park. In regards to Liz Keating, Perez said she is notalways in the library, Per Perez,Keating could havepossibly been in the breakroom.

This Investigator asked Perez if she knowsa~e related be was in herWorld History class last year. He was also in her Chemistry class. Perez said_always wore a hat and black trench coat. Perez was asked if she saw him in the~day and she saidshe does not remember seeing him.

When Perez left the library, she went straight out the door and there was a police carthere. Perez indicatedinside her back pack, there were some valuable picturesshe wantedreturned.

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On 05/11/99, Det. Boat=ight (IO} was assigned lead #4745,requesting he contact and int~rview Stephanie Salmon. Within thena~rative of the lead, IO was informed property belonging toStephanie Salmen was recovered in the lihrary when it was processedsubsequent to this incident.

On 05/11/59 at approximately 1920 hours, IO mat with StephanieKay Salmon, age 15, DOB: 07/04/83. Stephanie Salmon resides at6908 S, Yukon Court, Lietleton, CO e0128, phone~ 303-971-0548.Stephanie Salmon indicated she is in 9th Grade at Columbine HighSchool. Also present for the interview was Stephanie salmon'smother, Joann Salmon.

IO subsequently requested Stephanie Salmon provide an accountof her activities on 04/20/93, beginning at ~he time she arrived atschool, Stephanie Salmon told IQ she no=mally receives a ride toschool from her mother, as was the case this date. StephanieSalmon stated she believed her mother dropped her off at achoolsometime between 0120 and 0725 hours, that date. Stephanie Salmonrecalled being lee off on PierGe St., directly across from theschool {near the corner of "Leawood park ll

) . Stephanie Salmonseated she used the main entrance (east side) when entering theschool, Stephanie Salmon told to based on her recollection ofthat date, she immediately went to he~ first period class.Pursuant to questioning, Stephanie Salmon did not recall seeing anyunusual activity when she arrived at school,

As previously stated, Stephanie Salmon indicated she went tohex fl.rst period class, which she identified as ItArt, II StephanieSalmon stated her first period class begins at approximately 0730hours and concludes at approximately 0815 hours. Stephanie Salmonidentified her "Art II instructor as "Ms.· Warnake'l (spelling providedby Stephanie Salmon). According to Stephanie Salmen her HArt"class is located in the northeast area of the school on the mainlevel.

Stephanie Salmon reported she then attended her second periodclass which started at approximately 0820 ho~rs and concluded atapproximately 0915 hours. Stephanie Salmen identified her secondperiod class a "Band" which is taught by IIMr. Biskup" {spellingprovided by Stephanie Salmon}, Stephanie salmon indicated the"Sand" reom is located on the far north side of the building_

Stephan~e salman reported she then attended her third periodc~a5S which started at approximately 0920 hours and concluded atapproximately 1015 hours. Stephanie Salmon identified her thirdper rod class as HLanguage Arts" which is taught. by If Ms. Caruthers"(spell~ng provided by Stephanie Salmen). Stephanie Salmon statedher "r.anguage Art,j class is located in room "L.A4" which is just offof the south hallway towards the east side of the building.

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In respect to her fourth period class, Stephanie Salmon statedit began at approximately 1020 hours and concluded at approximately1110 hours, Stephanie Salmon identified her fourth period class as"MachH taught by JlMe, Layman" (spellinS provided by StephanieSalmon). According to Stephanie Salmon. her math class is locatedin "MAll" which is also off of the south hallway toward.a the eastside of the building_

Stephanie Salmon reported after her fourth period class ended.ahe t:hen began "A lunch," Stephanie Salmon told IO she normal.lytakes her lunch break with a friend, whom she identified as "AmandaLam.ont-ague." Stephanie salman indicated s.he normally met AmandaLamontague in the foyer area of the school, near the main offices,For purposes of clarification. Stephani€ Salmon indicated after herfourth period class ended, she then proceeded west, down the souchhallway to a corridor which connected the north and south halls,Stephanie sal~on stated she then walked north down the corridor andeventually arrived in the north hallway area, near the foyer.Acc~rding to Stephanie Salmon, she remained at that locati~n forapproximately v t en minutes," however, was not able to locate AmandaLamontagueT Stephanie Salmon told IO it was not particularlyunusual t.hat she was unable to "hook uP" with her friena.Stephanie Salmon stated on prevlous occasions where she has beenunable to locate Amanaa tamontague, she would then 90 to-thelibrary and study.

Stephanie Salmon reiterated she waited far her friend forapproximately ten minutes, after which she then walked west downthe north hallway, making her way to the library, Stephanie Salmonestimated she arrived at the library shortly after the 11:15 bellrang. According to Stephanie Salmon, ahe did not recall anythingunusual occurring while waiting for her friend or walking down tothe library. Pursuant to questioning, Stephanie Salmon stated whenshe arrived in the library} she was in possession of a lIpright bluebackpack" with a patch which had the words wricten. l)Study Ernest:.;·

Stephanie Salmon stated when she arrived at the library, sheremembered thinking she "didn't want to sit alone," but was: unableco :ccate any friends. Stephanie Salmon clarified when she arrivedac the library, she walked to the far west section anc eventually,sac at table #16. FOr purposes of clarification, Stephanie Salmonhad been shown a diagram and subsequently, identified table #16 asthe location she went to when she first arrived in ehe librar/,Stephanie Salmon went on to indicate she pOSitioned herself in achair on the east side, at the north end of the table. IO furtherclar~fied wi~h Stephanie Salmon she was alone at table #16 when shesat down. When asked if she recognized anybody else nea~ where shewas seated, S~ephanie Salmon responded in (he affirmative,Stephanie Salmon stated she believed "Cassie Be xna Ll," was at table#19, wich at least one other person whom she was unable toide~tify. Stephanie Salmon clarified there were numerous other

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people in the library, however I she did not kn~w them by name,Stephanie Salmon was unable to be more specific concerning thatpoint.

Stephanie Salmon stated after becoming situated at table #16,she then began flworking on my Science, II Stephanie salmon indicatedthat within "minure s i " she began to hear "Some banging noises,"which she believed were coming from outside the library, possiblyto the north, Stephanie Salmon stated initially, she wasunconcerned with the "banging noises, II due to the fact she thoughtit was possibly "construction workers, " Stephanie Salmon didrecall that when she began to hear the ubanging noises,ll she didlook around the library and saw that others had "looked Up,Ol butt.hen "kept on werking." IO clarified wit.h Stephanie Salmen it didnot appear to her as though anyone was particularly concerned aboutthe noises, which she heard coming from outside the li~rary. Whenasked if she Could recall the number of "banging noises" she heardduring that time, Stephanie Salmon stated she could not be exact,but knew there were "a b~~ch.u

Stephanie Salmon stated shortly thereafter/ she then oDser;redI'Ma, Nielson" enter the library, yelling 11help, there's ecudencswat.h a gun, gee under the ta1:;lles. II ACcQrding to Stephanie salmon,UMs. Nielson fl repeated her request for the students to get underthe tables several tim~g. Stephanie Salmon explained it was veryobvious, "Ms. Nielson" was "upsee " when she entered the library.

As that line of questioning continued. Stephanie Salmon stated"Ne , Nde Laon" entered the library from the east and moved quicklybehind the main counter. Stephanie salmon did not remember whichend of the counceX' "Ms. Nielson" traveled to anive behind thecounter. Stephanie Salmon recalled seeing "Ms, Nielson" then geton the telephone/ but could not bear exactly what was said at tha~

podnc . Stepha."1ie Salmon assumed "Me. Nielson" was calling forhe:p, Stephanie Salmon further clarified it. was not until IIMs.Na.eLaon" had act.ually positioned herself behind the counter did shebegin to direct. students. According to Stephanie Salmon, I/Ms.Nielson" had possibly indicated she needed "help" and made thestatement about the students with a gun prior to getting behind thecct,:.nt;.er. Stephanie Salmon reiterated, it was after lIMs, Nielson n

'.'las behind t he counter t.hat she repeatedly stated, "kids, gel: underthe desks." Stephanie Salmon stated it was obvious at that point /something serious had occurred. Stephanie Salmon reported she hadbecome somewhat frightened. According to Stephanie Salmon/ she wasscill not certain what exactly had occurred, but decided to complywit.h HMs. Nielson/s" request.

Stephanie Salmon stated prior to actually getting under table#15, she moved over to what's been ldentified as table #20,Stephanie Salmon told 10 the reason she went to that table wasbecause other students were present and it was then she recognizeda fellow student whom "she identified as Steve Greenwood. ro

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clarified Stephanie Salmon was indicating Steve Greenwood was undertable #20. Stephanie salmon told IO the reason she did not stay actable #16 was due to the fact she was frightened and did not wantto be alone. Stephanie salmon reiterated there were severalstudents whe were U hiding II under table. #:20 and she decided t.o jointhem.

IO next asked Stephanie Salmon to diagram table #20 in termsof where she and t.he others were located. Stephanie Salmoncomplied with ~O'$ request_ IO would note Stephanie Salmonpositioned herself at the far north end of table #20, facing south.Stephanie Salmon stated Steve Greenwood was located towards thenorth end of the cable I on the west side {facing eastl. StephanieSalmon also recalled another male to the aoueh of Steve Greenwooden the west side of the table who also was facing eaSt. StephaniaSalmon went on to state she believed there were possibly twoadditional males and at least one female who were not under thetable, but were located just to the west. IO clarified withStephanie Salmon, she was indicating there were at least threeindividuals (two malesl one female) to the west of table #20, neara bookshelf area. Stephanie salmon clarified the three individualsnot located under the table were only lla, couple feet, away.llStephanie Salmon believed those individuals were simply seated onthe floor (or lying down) and facing a northeasterly d~rection.

Stephanie Salmon was unable to be more specific concerning thoseindividuals.

Stephanie Salmon went On to state after taking up a positionunder table #20 I she remembered hearing "9'..l.nfire from below us. 11

Stephanie Salmon stated she believed the "gunfire l1 she was hearingwas coming from the Il commons I! area. Stephanie Salmon could noc bespecific in terms of the number of gunshots she heard/ but believedit was several. Stephanie Salmon stated after hearing thosegunshot.s, she then began to hear movement in the hallway outside ofthe library, When asked to elaborate. Stephanie Salmon stated it"sounded like a lot of people running. II Stephanie Salmon rela.tedshe believed there was still some movement occurring in thelibrary, due t.o the fact she had seen Hsom-ebody dart by."Stephanie Salmon was unable to be more specific. other chan tos~ate see believed it was a student who waS taking up a position ofconcealment.

Stephanie Salmon told IO shortly after hearing what soundedlike "people running in the hallway, II she t.hen :Cagan to heargunshots in the hall, jus~ outside of the library. Again,Stephanie Salmon was unable to be specific in terms of the numberof shots she heard I but believed it was several, Stephanie Salmonthen added she knew there was at least "one explosion!! which tookplace in the hallway prlor to the suspects entering the library. 'IO confirmed the axplQs~Qn she was referrin9 to also occurred ~n

the hallway, just outside of the library.

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Scephanie Salmon explained shortly after hearing the"explos1.on,1l she then heard loud voices in the northwest. sect.ion otthe library. Stephanie Salmon stated the voices were coming fromup by the "computers." When asked what she heard, Stephanie Sa.lmonstated, "This a e for all the crap you gave us or for all the crapthis year, or something like that." Stephanie salmon nex.t heardone of the voices state, "everyone with a white hat, stand Up.llStephanis Salmon i~dicated she did no~ believe anyone complied withthe suspects ' request, but remembered seeing Steve Greenwood removehis hat Stephanie Salmon pointed out she also saw at least one,and possibly more individuals at table #15, removing ball caps. 10c~nflrmed with Stephanie Salmen, she saw fellow students attemptingto conceal themselves unde~ what was identified as cable #15,S:ephanie Salmon told IO she believed there were at least threepeople under table #15 two of which were males. Stephanie Salmonreported there were possibly more people under that table, however,she could nOt be more specific.

Stephanie Salmon stated she next began to hear multipleg~~shats, which she knew were co~ing from the northwesc section ofthe library. Stephanie Salmon could not recall the number ofgunshots she heard, but knew after they stopped, one of thesuspects began laughing and stated, "look at these brains, II

Stephanie Salmon stated after that comment was made, she heardadditional laughter. Stephanie Sa:mon went on to state around thatsame time frame {the initl.al g'l".lnshor:s}, she knew she heard, "glassbreaking." Stephanie Salmon cold IO the glass she heaJ:'d breakingwas north of her location and she assumed it was the libraryw~ndows, however, because of her positioni~g, could notspecifically make a visual observation.

Stephanie Salmon reported soon after the initial ~vents

(desc r i bed above) occurred, she recalled hearing »t.he fire alarms."Stenhanie Sal~on ind~cated once the fire alarms starced, it wasd~~fic~lt to hear ma~y of the comments bei~g made by the suspects.

Stephanie Salmon next stated she began to hear additionalgU~ShOt3 which she knew were coming closer to whexe she was hiding,Agai~, Stephanie Sa:mon described the gunshots stopping, afterwhic.r~ she heard a comment "trherre t s a nigger.'1 Stephanie Salmontold !O moments after the above comment, sbe again heard additionalsunshots a~d mo~e laughter. Stephanie Salmen stated the racialccmment and the gunshots both came from an area north of herlccation, but 1.n close prOXimity to where she was h~d~ng.

Steuhanie Salmon stated after ~he lase series of gu~ahots stopped,$he~lOoked over towards what's been identified as cable #t6, andsaw w!:'~a': she believed '.vas a male student with a "b Lue j a cce t :' lying~~derneath the table. Stephanie Salman stated the male student'shead would have been facing east, while his feet were facing west.SteFha~ie Salmon stated the reason she recalled the above studentwas due to the fact he was Hsmoking" When as ked to elaborate,S~ephanle Salmon stated wher. locking at the st~dent, it appeared as

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though his "body was smoking 11 Stephanie Salm~n believed the malestudent's body was "smoking" from the mid torso area. StephanieSalmon stated she could not be mere specific concerning that point,Stephanie Salmen did indicate what she observed occurred afterhearing gunshots from just norch of her location. When asked ifshe saw anyone else underneath table #16, Stephanie Salmon statedshe was uncertain. Stephanie Salmon related her specificrecollection involved lithe blue jacket that was smoking.

Stephanie Salmon related almost as soan as she had made thatobservation, she :ecallec seeing one of the suspects walk past hertable on the east side, Stephanie Salmon clar~fied the suspect wasmoving in a southerly direction, When asked if she could identlfythe suspect, Stephanie Sa~mon initially stated she remembered whenseei:.g the suspect., the library appeared "smokey tt StephanieSalmon then went on to describe the suspect as wearing a light,I'white!! colored eb i r t , with a "black or navy blue veec .:' StephanieSal«\on recalled the suspect was wearing "black combat boots 'I with"black pants tucked into them (refer::-ing to the boots) IOc:ari£ieci with Stephanie Salmon even though she was looking up atthe suspect, she did not actually see his face or head area as hepassed by her table. Stephanie Salmon told !O as the suspectpassed her table, she again remembered looki~g back towards table#15 and saw what she believed were at least three people underneathtb~t table. Stephanie Salmon Cold IO it appeared as though theflkids under that table (referring to table ~lSI, were kind oflaying over each other." Stephanie Salmon was unable to be morespecific concerning that point

Steohanie Salmen stated the next recollection she had washearing- something 'I hard" being sec. on what she thought was one of~he ~able5 near her location, Stephanie Salmon was unable to bemore specific. Stephanie salmon did indicate after the aboveobservation, she believed the Susuects had moved over to the eastside o~ the library, due co the f~ct she began to hear gunfire fromthat location and iJ screams. " Stephani-e Salmen reiteratedthroughout this incident, she could hea~ the suspects laughing atvar-c cus times "like they were having f'J.n enjoying it. 'I StephanieSal~on specifically told 10 it did not appear as though thes\;.spects ,.:era "mad," but wexe just. "having fun. ,r

Ie subsecuentlv cc~fir~ed with Stenhanie Salmon she believedthe suspects had moved to the ease side~Qf the library, due to the:ac~ she began to hear gu~fixe and screams from east of he~

location. Stephanie salreon related the gunsho~6 and screamsconti~ued for a short period of time and, at some point after thesusuects had lef: the west side of the lib~ary, she remembered1:ea;ing ene. of them stat€:, lIthere's 50reething I've always wanted todo" and then made =eEe.re.:1ce t o "c'.lc:ing or scabbing, <l StephanieSa ~on stated she specifically heard one of t~e SU$pects makingr e e r-e.nce co do "kni.f e" dt.lring the above discussion. Sc epnan.LeSa m~~ teld :0 she could not recaLl exactly when the above

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sta~ements were made, but knew it occurred aft~r the suspects hadgone to the east side of the lihrary. Pursuant to questioning, LOclarified wlth Stephanie Salmon the additional gunfire and screamsshe began hearing occurred somewhere east of her location.Stephan~e Salmon was specifically referring to the far east andcenter sections of the library Stephanie Salmon stated she couldno~ be more specific regarding where the suspects went after theyleft the west section of the library. Stephanie Salmon stated shewas certain when indicating the suspects came to the west side ofthe library first and then moved to the east.

Stephanie Salmon agakn made refere~ce to the comment involvingthe "knife." Stephanie Salmon told 10 even though s:h.e did. not knowexactly when the above statement was made, she was certain therewere shots and screams which proceeded it, followed by more shotsand screams af~e~.

Stephanie Salmon stated ~t seemed as though the suspects werein the library "foxever , It however, noted it was probably not moreth.an "fifteen minutes." Stephanie Salmon apologized for not be-l.ngable co provide more detail, but pointed out based on herpositioning, she could not see eve~hing that occurred to thenorth or east of her location. Stephanie Salmon did state she waspositive the suspects d-l.d not retur~ to the west aide of thelibrary after they initially left. 1n respect to that observation,10 asked Stephanie Salmon if she knew wh~re the suspect went whowalked past her table in a southerly direction {prior to hearinggunshots east of her location). Stephanie Salmen responded in thenegacive, adding "I know he walked by, but I don't know where hewent. " Stephanie Salmon did inform IO she did recall oneadditional comment. Stephanie Salmon indicated at some poi~t

during the incident, she heard one of the suspects make thecomment I "we're gcnna' torch this library," Stephanie Salmon couldnot recall if that statement was made while the suspects were onthe west side of the library, or i: was after they had moved to theeast

Stepha~ie Sa:mon tcld IO eventually. she :ealized all t~e

gunshccs had stepped. Stephanie Salmon stated she rememberedt:i.:'nk:-ng to hersel~ "everything' 3 qJ:;iet now." Stephanie Salmons~a~ed i~ was at that t:me, she began to hear people moving.Stephanie Salmon clari:ied the people she heard moving were5t~6ents who were coming oue from underneath the tables, StephanieSalmon went on to i~diGate at One po~nt, 5~e heard a student stace/"they'reo gone." When asked if that was a shout or a yell,S~ephanie Salmon responded in ~he negative Stephanie salmonind£cated t~e s~atement she refe~red to above was said in a lowtOhS meant for so~eOne nearby to hear.

With:n moments, Stephanie Salmen related she began to hear"pecp Le runnInq , II assuming they 'Here attempting to leave 'thelibrary. Stephanie Salmon seated s~e then goc out from underneath

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the table and began to follow a "group" which ~as moving norththrough the library. Stephanie Salmon remembered as they arrivedin a hallway co the north of the computer tables/ several people inthe g't'cup went into the "first room t.o the laft." StephanieSalmon pointed out there is not an exit ~c that room and momentsafter entering, these same people exited. Stephanie Salmon statedeveryone in the group then continuee moving north through chehallway until they arrived at the nor~h exit door. StephanieSalmon seated when arriving at that location, she remembered seeinga "zack" in front of the door ',.;hien somebody ultimately removed,Stephanie Salmon indlcated once the doorway was cleared, peoplebegan exiting, Stephanie Salmon indicated she believed she was oneof the last people to leave the library

Stepha~ie Salmon indicated once she had stepped outside thenorch door, she scopped for a mome;lC to see if it: was ".safe"Stephanie Sal~on then obse~!ed numerous students running towards amarked police car which was located off to the northwest.Stephanie Salmon stated she believed there were two officers att~at marked police un~t. Stephanie Salmon stated she subsequentlyfollowed the group of students to the marked police unit, notingeveryone took up a position behind 4he car for cover. StephanieSalmon explained a short time af~er a~riving behind the markedpolice Qnic, echer police vehicles began to arrive and started toevacuate the injured first. stephanie Salmon stated she waseventually driven out of the area Stephanie salmon recalled beingplaced in the trunk of a patrol unit and then driven behind aII shed" which was located near the school, Stephanie Salmon statedfrom that poine, she was driven safely out of the area andreme~~ered being lec ouc of the vehicle in a neighborhood cul-desac. Stephanie salmon recalled numerous people at that lQcat~on

were providing and receiving first aid. Stephanie Salmon indicatedshe was eventually reunited with her family. Stephanie Salmon toldIO she did noe believe she had any additional details to provideconcerning this incident.

Ie s~bsequently concluded his contact with Stephanie SalmonSee ~he diagram prepared by Stephanie Salmon for additionalde~ails. In respect to the diagram: IO would nota at the tableidenti:~ed as #:6, Stephanie Salmon drew in a stick figureinc.i.ca:::"ng the position of the student- she observed t'smoking"wea~~~g the blue jacket. I~ addition to the left of table #16(refer::ing to the west}, Stephanie Salmon drew ar, "X"nc-ting the:oca:ion where she first saw one of the suspeCtS who then begac toproceed south through the library, Stephanie Salmon also depictedhe~ path of travel when leaving the library

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as told by ..o.LI..Ll..!.J..u::J.L.G.!.LLL Joseph Savage's (SP) brother)

Yeah. I'm alive, I was in the library - ugh, I hearda bangingand I thought

someone was renovating the school, it sounded like someone hammering Then1heard it

get wayTOO loud to be that, and I heardshotguns. which are moreofa boomthan a bang.

Shortiy after that, a womanran into the library and said, "Everyone get under the rabies,

there'sa kid outside with a gun!" So weaii did [heard lots of gunfire, explosions,

screams It wasjust unreal I kept tellingmyselfit had to be a dream, that this couldn't

be happening, I heard a big explosion and felt the floorunder me shake, and [ was scared

that they were going to blow up the school See, the libraryis on top of the cafeteria, and

they set off a couple of pipe bombs in the cafeteria, right under the library Then I

remembered that It took a big truck fuii of explosives to blow up the Oklahoma City

building, so [didn't worryabout that as much. Then they Came up into the library, and 1

saw them, and Lthought, "Holy cow, it'sDylan and Eric! "nat are they doing?" I

thoughtthey might be planningto kill everyone in the library. So there I was, biding

underone of the tables, and they were goingfrom table to table and shootingsomeof the

people under them. I didn't actuallyseeanyone get shot, far which I'm thankful, but 1

prettymuch knew they were killingpeople 1sawthem fire in the direction of the

computers, but I couldn'tsee the computers because therewas a bookshelfin the way, but

I was somewhatamused at the thought of shooting a computer, I couldn'thear muchof

whatwas said because the fire alarmsweregoingoff Anyway, when they cameto my

table Eric SUlek hIS head under the table and pointed his gun at me, so I scootedout of

the wayof the barrel, and then he pointedit at me again, and I scootedback out of the

way Then he stood up and said, "Who 15underthe table7 Identify youselfl" And I said,

"It's me, John!" And Dylansaid, "JohnSavage?" And [said, "Yes!" And Dylanwalked

over to my side of the table and said, 'Hi" And I said, 'Hi Dylan What are youdoing?"

And he shrugged and said, "O~ killing people" And I said, "Areyou goingto kill me?"

And he looked at me for a secondand then he said, "No, dude,just run Just get out of

here" I rememberthinkingthat if he'd said yes, J would have said, "Thenmake it quick,

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just put a bullet in my headand gel it over with." Buthe let me go, so 1ran outside. 1

was spnnringat top speed, so 1didn't see muchof the school on the inside (1 WIsh I'd

goneslower and taken a better look), but I remember seeinga big blood stain on the

carpet and one of the pop machines was damaged, probably from one of the pipe bombs

I ran to the housewhere I havea daily bible study class (it's a Mormon thingcalled

seminary) and the police took me downto Goldento make an offical statement for their

arrest warrant. But they're dead now.

It's so weird to imagine it· Dylanwas in my 2nd hourclass andEric was in my

3rd hour, and they killed at least 13peopleand themselves. And at least 2 peopleI knew

are dead, too - Rachel Scon andLaurenTownsend I knewthe girl who had 9 wounds to

herchest, and one of my other friendswas shot in the knee. I have another friendwho

always spends her lunch in the library, and I haven't seen or heard from her, so for all I

know, she'sdead, too. They were all such incredibly nice people They didn'tdo

anything 10 deserve it.

I've spent most of the last couple of daysat mygirlfriend's house. I'm goingover

there again tomorrow It's times like this whenyourealizehow important your friends

are to you, not only when they're there for you, but when they're gone. I'm glad I didn't

die, but not Justfor my own sake, but for the sakeof my friends- I'd hate for them to be

sad about me,

I feel like a war vet· whenever1see a shooting scene in a movie, ] have a son of

flashback It'sweird.

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Colorado State PatrolInvestigative Services Section

Columbine High School Incident

Date of Report: 05110/99 Control Number: 26.33

T~ <lot "!>:ultN.mt!R¢port~ by) ! Siprol~ -. iBM NumbeI-;

Perry Powell! Michael Jeffries I~-::>~ d. I 11 7160c

interview ofJohn Colin SavageDOB· 07/10181SSN 522-35-62286350 W David Dr . Littleton. Colorado 3(1123TEL i303) 932·7319

On 05107/99 at upprcximatelv 10 35 M1. we interviewed John Savage at his residence ct 6350 W David Dr.Littleton. Colcrndo Savage staled he had joined TeM approximately! years ago Savage stated it was fun at firstto nang with the weird people Hestayed3 member through hissophomore yearbut hadquit when he had gotteninvolved in school plays

While with the TCM Savage said they used to play card game 'Guns and.Dragons" at school

Savage advisedhe usedto see Dylangel teased for the wayhe dressed

Savage stated Dylan and Eric were not members at the time he was with TCM Savage knew Dylan from the stagecrew The')' worked together

Savagewrote out a statement whichhe stares he wassitting in the library for abcut five minutes nfter"A" lunchsurtec, whenhe heard a banging like someone hammeringon the school Then he heard il louder bang fromdownstairs and 11 lot of screaming. All unknown lady came running into the library and said "Everyone ger underthe tables. theirsJ kidoutsidewith J gun": So everyone gotunder the tables Savage then hearsmoregunfire.explosrons and screams The gunfirewascommgfrom upstairs and then just outside of rhe library Savage heardashotgun blast and felt the shockwave from il Then Savage seen Dylan walking through the library Eric came intothe library a little later Eric was looking under the tablesand cameover to the tablewhere Savage W115 hidingEric pomr a gun at Savage and asked who was under the table Savage identified himselfby saying "Ifs me JohnDvlan asked. 'john Savage" and Savage replied. "Yean" Dylan came over to the table and said. "Hi" Savagelooked up and said. ··Hi. Dylan. what are you doing" Dylan shrugged and said, "Killing people Savage asked..,Are you going 10 kill me'H) Dylan stated "No. dude run Just getout of here" So Savage ran out of the library.down the hall. down the stairs and outside (Statement unacbedi

Savage staledDylan ..vas wearinga long blackduster. blackpantsand armv boots Dylanwascarrying a sawed offshot gun double barrel and i1 pistol Eric was wearing a white T-sbirt and was carrying a 9mm carbine Savagestated he heard someone rack a shotgun but did not see anyone carrving it,

Savage guessed tnat there were between 30 and.j.(l people In the hbrarv when it all started

Savage heardone of the suspects Say to theother. "Do you have the bag, where is the bag?" and they heardone sayto the other. '·0 K lets go kill some cops now"

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To clarify the time of the incident Savage advisedhe started lunchlate around 11 lOAM. He was in the libraryabout 11 15 AMwhen the unknown ladycamein and said to getdcwn

Savage claims Eric and Dylan hadbeen shootingin the library and had been shooting at the computers before theytold him to leave Savagebelievestheywere in the library forapproximately 5 to 10 minutesbefore telling him to:leave

Savagedrewa mapof the library showingwhere he wasat (Mapattached)

Savage claims he never seenDylanwith any type of weapon before 04120199 Savageclaimsto have no knowledgeof the incident prior to it happeningon 04120199

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Reported Date 04/.0/1999 Time 12,39,32Status RTF

DET131 06/24/1999 OS1699/BOATRIGHT/KK

COh~CTBD TO JEFFERSON COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENTCASE REPORT ~99- 7625

On 06/01/99 Detective Boatright tIO) was assigned DN #2249requesting he contact and interview John Savage. Within thenarrative of the lead, 10 was informed John Savage had been presentin the library when the incident occurred on 04/20(99. Inaddition, the lead indicated John Savage was confronted by one ofthe suspects and subsequently told he could leave the library. IOwas requested to interview Jo~~ Savage for the purpose of gatheringadditional information related to this investigation. It was knownto IO John Savage had been interviewed by ocher Colurnbi~e HighScheol task force members prlor to th~s date,

On 06/03/99 a~ approximately 1305 hours, IO met with JohnSavage and his mother at their res~dence located at 6350 West DavidDrive, Littleton, Colorado, 8012$1 phone 303-932- 7319. IOverified w~th Jehn Savage he is presently 17 years of age with aDCB of 07/10/81, John Savage was a senlor at Colurrbine HighScheol For purposes of clarification, John Savage's motherremained for the interview.

10 SUbsequently confirmed with John Savage he was present inthe library on 04/20/99 when the inCldent began. 10 furthercla~ified w~th the forenamed he was a student who had aconversation with one or both of the suspects and was subsequentlytold to leave the library. IO subsequently asked John Savage if heknew either of the suspects and if so, to explain thatrelationship John Savage responded in the af:irmative, indicatinghis relationship with both Dylan Klebold and E~ic Harris stemmedfrom contacts at school, John savage clarified he did not considerhimself to be a friend of eitner Dylan Klebold or Eric Harris andclassified his relationship with bath these people as"acquaintances, "

When asked to describe his prior inceractlon with Eric Harris,John Savage stated he presently had a third hour philosophy classw~tn Er~c Harris and believed he had other classes with theforenamed in past years. John Savage stated there were alsooccasions which he referred co as "a coup Le times a week'\ where hewould see Er':c Harris Ln the "commons" (seated with others attables nea~ the facu:ty lour.ge) before scheol started. John savageclarified the aforementioned situation primarily pertained to thisschool year. John Savage did indicate if he would see Eric Harris,it would noe be unusual for them to exchange greetings JohnSavage stated it was possible throughouc ~he course of the schoolyear he may have had misce~la~eaus conversations with Eric Harrisbut could not recall any speclf~c details. John Savage poincecl outof che two individuals named above, he had more contact with DylanKlebolcl

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John Savage was next asked to describe his relationship withDylan Klebold. John Savage explained over the pase two schoolyear3, he has gotten to know Dylan Klebold through various theaterproductions, John Savage indicated he is somewhat active in the~heater at Columbine High School as was Dylan Klebold. John Savagestated his primary contacts with Dylan Klebold would occur whenpreparing for a cheater production, John Savage explained inseveral of the theater programs put on by Columbine High School, heeither acted or worked on the "stage crew." John savage relatedDylan Klebold usually !lworked the soundboard for the plays,11 thusthe two had contact during those times. John Savage stated it wasnot uncommon in between scenes or when he was noe actuallyperforming to go up and sit with Dylan Klebold while he worked thesaundboard, John Savage again indicated he did not recall havingany In depth conversations with Dylan KlebQld when socializing inthe manner indicated above. John savage did point out he had asecond hour class with Dylan Klebold which he identified asca Lcu.Lua .

John Savage did explai~ he was aware both Eric Harris andDylan Klebold were into the rnasdc group "Rarnst.e Ln , II whom heident.l.:tJ..ed as a "Ce rman band. II John Savage then recalled atvarious times hearing both Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold speakingGerman but pClnted out they were only reciting lyrics or phrasesfrom che music produced by Ramscein. John savage stated to hisknowledge. neither of the foren~med were capable of speakingGerman, IO subsequently clarified w.l.th John Savage that hisinteractions with Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold occurred at school.John Savage maintained he had never socialized with either of thefcrerramed when oucside of school.

!O subsequently requested uohn Savage provide an account ofhis activities on 04/20/99 beginning at the time he arrived atschool, John Savage explained on the dace i~dicated, he was drivento school by his father and dropped off near the southwest entranceby the lIRebel Store. 11 John Savage statsci he was dropped off atschoo~ at approximately 0515 hours John Savage indicated he wasnorma~ly driven to school by his father, arriving at approximatelythe same time every day. IO confirmed with Jo~~ Savage he did noerecall any unusual activity ox ob$er~ations when arriving at schoolas indicated above, IO dld ask John Savage to ldentify theclothing he was wearing that date. John Savage stated heremeIT'.bered wearing a gray and black ",?-ippered sweat: shirt" with"blue jeans," JCihn Savage stated he was not certain as to theshirt he was wearing thac date,

According to John Savage, after being let off at school, he:hen entered the building via the southwest entrance and walked~ntc ~he commons area. Jchn savage stated he then sat at a tablenear t..he "fac'..ll'::y lC\l."lge-" which he also pointed cut was 11 normalmor~i~g activity, Eased on information previously supplied, IOasked John Savage if he recalled seeing either Brie Harris or Dylan

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Klebold in the commons area that morning. John Savage responded inthe negative and again pointed out he d~d not recall any unusualactivity occurring priQr to his first hour class. IO confirmedwith John Savage that he remained at a table in the commons areanear the faculty lounge until first period started.

John Savage stated his first period class began atapproximately 0730 hours and concluded at approximately 0820 hours,John Savage identified his first period class as "Hd at.ocy" which istaught by Mr, Hayee . John Savage indicated his "Historyl' class islocated in room "551'1 which is just off the north hall towards theeast entrance of the building,

John Savage reported he then attended his second hour classw~ich he belleved began at approximately 0825 hours and concludedat approximately 0910 hours John Savage i~dicated his second hourclass wa e "Ca.Lcu.Lua" taught. by Mr Risgins, According to JohnSavage, his "Ce.Lcu.Lue" class is located in the math section of theschool and went on to identify the room number as "MA4. 'I JohnSavage clarified "z-oom MA4'1 is located en the far southeast sectionof the school, John Savage staced he did nOt recall seeing DylanKlebold in his calculus class that day,

wohn Savage reported he then attended his third hour classwhich he estimated began at approximately 0915 hours and concludedat approximacely 1015 hours John Savage identified his thirdperiod class as "Phd Loaophy" taught by "Mr. Kritzer," .John Savages eaced his 'I l?hilosophyll class. is taught in room "587 11 in the socialsc~die$ area of the school. Jo~~ Savage then pointed out a fellows tudent; by the name of "Bxooka Brown'! is also in that same class,John Savage reported he sits near Brooks Brown during philosophyclass. When asked to describe his relationship with the forenamed,John Savage stated they were II pr e t t y geod friends,'! adding theyknew each other through lItheater. II When asked if he had spokenwith Brooks Brown since this i~cident, John Savage responded in thenega~ive. John Savage explained the only reason he mentionedBrooks Brown was due to the fact t~e forenamed had been in thenews, after which he pointed out it was somewhat well known thatthe f~renamed embellishes his starles. When asked if Brooks Brownhad ever su?plied him w~t~ i~forma~ion which could possibly berelated to this investigation, John Savage responded in thenega~~ve. When asked if he had recelved any informacion thatBrooks Brown was not be~ng tot.ally truthful when speak~ng to thepol~ce, John Savage again responded in the negative. It did netappear as though John Savage had any additional information relatedto Breoks Brown. John Savage did indicate he did not recall seeingErlC Harris during the thlrd pericd class

According to John Savager he then attended his fourth periodclass which began at approximately 1020 hours and concluded atapproximately 11:0 hours. John Savage identified his fourth periodc.l as s as "Band" which is taught by lIMr Biskup, 'I ,John Savage

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stated his "be.nd" class is taught in the "band room" which islocated an the far northeast side of the buildlng, John Savagenext explained that even though fourth period is scheduled to rununtil approximately 1110 hours, he along with his fellow classmateswere normally let out of band sometime around 1100 hours. Jo~~

Savage clarified on 04/20/99, he was let out of band atapproximately 1100 hours. John. Savage added he has "A lunch, 'I t.hu ahe did not have a class immediately follow~n9 his fourth period.

John savage next explained that due to the fact he has II Alunch, H he often goes to the band "practice room" (in the band roomarea) which he did on this date. John Savage stated he went to theband practice room for approximately five minutes and chen realizedhe needed to scudy for a history test on "Wednesday. II John Savageexplained be felt studying for his history test took priority overprac~icin9 band d~ring his lunch break. Jor~ Savage stated he thendecided to 90 to the library in order to study for his historytest.

When asked if it was unusual to go to the library during "Alunch." John savage responded in t.he negat.Lve . John Savage s t e cedduring an average week, he would go to the library during lunchapproximately "four out of five days." JOM. Savage stated it wasalso common to meet a friend at the library whom he identified asI1Steve Greenwocd. lI John Savage stated he and Steve Greenwoodnorw~lly met each other near cable #9, where they would remain inthe library through A lunch studying. John Savage utilized thelibrary diagram to identify the location where he and SteveGreenwood normally sat,

John Savage stated he sUbseq~en~ly left the band practice roomand proceeded down the north hall en route to the l~brary. JohnSavage clarified when arriving at the librarj', he was carrying ablack and green "LL Bean" backpack. John Savage estimated hearr~ved in the library sometime shortly after the 1115 bell,

John Savage stated when going to his normal table, he realizedit was occupied and then decided to go to cable #11 John Savagestated the aforementioned table was unoccuoied, Pursuant toquestion~hg, John Savage stated he did not-know the name of theperson who was seated at table #9. IO would note :ohn Savage hadbeen provided with a diagram of the library to asaist him inprovid~ng an explanation of this incident When asked if SteveGreenwood was present when he arrived, John Savage responded in theaffirmat~ve. Jehn Savage indicated even though he k~ew SteveGreen~ocd was present in the library, he did not make contact withthe forenamed at that time, John Savage explained he did not knowi: Steve Greenwood had act~ally sat down at a ~able yet but assumedthe forenamed would join him later.

John Savage repor~ed afcer set~ing down his backpack at table~:l, ~e then realized he d~d nOe have his histO~j book John

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Savage then left the library en route to his locker. John Savagewas subsequently provided with a Columbine High School floor plandiagram and asked to identify his path of travel from the point heleft the band room into the library and then to his locker. JohnSavage subsequently complied with IO's request. 10 noted JohnSavage indicated his locker was in the south hall near the farsoutheast science room (SCI12l. John Savage confirmed to 10 afterretrieving his histor/ book, he then returned to the library,estimating his time of arrival at approximately 1120 hours. JohnSavage clarified he returned to table #11 where he sat down andbegan to study for h~5 history test, When asked if was joined bySteve Greenwood, John Savage responded in the negative,

John Savage s t aued after he had been studyin9 for "a couplerni.nuc e s , '. he began to hear a 'lbanging noise" which he believed wascoming from the soccer fields located to the northwest of thelibrary. John Savage stated he was certain that the llbangingnoises" were coming from. outside the scheel, however, after aper-lQd of time he began thinking/ "someOrte'S working on r..heschool." :to confirmed with John Savage he was referring to somety~e of construction which would have been occurring outside thelib~ary in a northwesterly direction John Savage explained at thetime he began to hear the banging noises, he did not noticeanything unusual occurring in the library.

John Savage reported a short time later, he did begin to hear'j screaming" which appeared to be coming from t.he II commons, II JohnSavage confirmed it was not an isolated scream he heard but rathera "group of people, II Jol"'..n Savage told IO it was at that point hebelieved others in the library had become "more alert, like aprairie dog. t1 John Savage clarified t.he meaning of the term"prairie dog" by stating he saw others in the library lift up theirheads and begin locking around.

Jchn Savage stated he the~ began to hear "more banging nQises"which he attributed to coming from the commons area. John Savagestated it was at this point he began t.o think he was now hearing"gunshots II John Savage stated that the "bangs" he had previouslyheard would now be better described as a "boom noise." John Sa'vaqestated he was uncert.ain as to how many shots he had heard up tothat point, John Savage reiterated initially he thought he washearing construction noises and was not paying any particularattention but as the noises became louder and he then identifiedthem as gunshots, he became more alert a5 to the situation. Whenasked if it appeared to him as though the gunshots were comingcloser to the library, John Savage responded in the affirmative.John Savage expla~ned prior to the suspects actually entering thelibrary, the gunshots scunded very close.

John Savage est~mated since he had begun to hear what heinitially khought were construction noises to the pa~nt he had:lcer:tified those noises as gunshots, he believed approx::.mately l1cne

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mt aut.e" had passed. At that point John Savage recalled seeing ateacher run into the library via the east entrance. John Savagestated he did net ~~ow the teacher's name but recalled she hadShoulder length "blonde ha Lr " and was wearing a "peach outfit. i j

John Savage was unable to be more detailed in his description ofche teacher.

John Savage stated at the point the teacher entered thelibrary, she then announced in a loud voice, "There's a kid with agun f everyone get under the tables, II John Savage clarified theaforementioned statement was made prior to the teacher going behindthe counter, John Savage also recalled the teacher turning andspeaking to someone who was behind the library counter, however, hedid not know what was said. ro confirmed with John Savage he didnot knew the name cf the person behind the counter nor could hedescrlbe that person.

John Savage stated he next looked to the northwest andobserved Mr. Lang (running; coming from the "north hall."According to John Savage, Mr. Long exited the libraxy via the eastdoors. John Savage stated he did not recall whether or not Mr.Lang had made any comments prior to leaving ~he library but knewthe fcrenamed was moving qUickly. John savage speculated Mr Longalso nad knowledge similar to that of a teacher who had justentered the library.

John Savage ~elated the teacher who had entered the librarysubsequently went behind the main counter lunkno<NTI from whichdirection) and continued to inscrucc all the students to get undert~e tables Jor~ Savage stated it was obvious the teacher wasupset- and sounded somewhat "panicked. 'I John Savage stated afterhearing the teacher inst~~ct the students to get under the cables,he t~en complied.

John Savage told 10 after get~ing underneath table #11 (facingnorth} he t:..en began to hear more "banging noises I' which seemed tobe "getcing louder II John Savage stated at one point he heard whathe described as a "big: explosion" which ultimately "shook thef:'ocr." John Savage was unable to be specific in terms of thelocation of the explosion but speculated it was possibly in thecommons area due to the fact it shOOk the floor. John Savage didindicate as he continued to hear "banging noises I II he knew some ofthem origi~ated out in the hall directly outside the library andpossibly down towards the south hall area IO subsequently askedJohn Savage 'when referring to <lbanging no i.aeai " if he was able toidentify them as g;;:r.shots. John Savage stated he knew the Hbangingnoises" were eicher gunshots or explosions, however, he could notdiffe~entiate between the two.

Jchr* Savage stated as the gunshots became very loud (directlyouts~de ~he east library doorsl, he chen observed Dylan Klebclde~te~ the library and proceed i~ a westerly direction. When asked

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to describe Dylan Klebold, John Savage stated the forenamed waswearing a black ball cap (backwards) with a long black trench coat,Jehn Savage stated he further observed Dylan Klebold wearing sometype of belt or "barrd" az-cund his waist which was carrying shotgunshells. John Savage further described Dylan Klebold as wearing ablack t-shirt 1 lIblack cargo pants" and black combat style boots,John Savage pointed out the pants were tucked into the combacboots.

When asked if he observed Dylan Klebold in possession of anyweapons. John Savage responded in the affirmative. Jehn Savagestated the forenamed was in possession of a double barrel sawed offshotgun, John Savage clarified he later saw Dylan Klebold inposses s i on of another '....eepon which he identified as iii I'Te:ch 9. ~

Pursuant to questioning, John Savage stated he initially did fiotsee Dylan Klebold in possession of the Tech 9 and had only seen himcarrying the double barrel sawed off shotgun.

When asked what he observed next, John Savage stated as OylanKlebold proceeded west through the library, the forenamed began tofire the double barrel shotgun, When asked where Dylan Klebold waslocated at the point he first fired the weapon, John Savage pointedto an ar~a just south of the main counter (north of the referencedesk}, IO subsequently requested John Savage idencify the locationon the diagram where he saw Dylan Klebold fire the double barrelshotgun < John savage complied with IO's request In addition,John savage drew an arrow pointing in the direction where DylanKlebold fired the weapon. 10 would note that the arrow is pointingin a westerly direction (slightly to the north), John Savagestated it appeared to him Dylan Klebold was firing the weapon in~he direction of the computers at the north computer eable. Seethe aforemencloned diagram for complete details, 10 would note thelocaticn where John Savage placed Dylan Klebold at the point hefired the weapon was north of the center section and just south ofthe main counter area,

John Savage told 10 he believed it was at the point DylanKlebcld initially began firing the double barrel shotgun that heheard the fire alarms activate. John Savage pointed out he couldnot be absolutely positive on that point, adding, ,rI! it d.i dn ' thappen then, it: was right after that, '.

When asked hew many times Dylan Klebold fired the doublebarrel sho4gun in the direction of the computers, John Savagesta:ed, "Once for: sure" John Savage then stated as Dylan Kleboldcon~inued walking west (as he fired the weapon for the first time),it waS possible chere were additional shoes fired. John Savagestated due to the fact DYlan Klebold moved out of his line ofsigh~, he could net confirm the forenamed fired any additionalshots ~n che direction of the north computer tables. John Savagedid state shortly after John Savage had moved far enough to thewes~ sc that he could not be seen, the forenamed was heard to shout

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"woo hco . l1 John sevage next heard Dylan Klebold state words to theeffect I "Evezybody get up, We're qonna blow up the fuckinglibrary, ,t According to John SaYage, the next statement shouted byDylan Klebo Ld was, "Everybody wearing a white hat get. up. l! JohnSavage went on to state there was a similar COmment made withreference to '*jocks" standing up. According to dohn Savage, hecould not be positive Dylan Klebold made all the above statementsbut did believe the forenamed had made the statements reference"blovang up t.he fucking library." John Savage stated the remainingstatements were possibly made by Dylan Klebold, however, they couldhave been made by Eric Harris. According to John Savage, he wasnot aware that Eric ~arris had entered the library at this point,

John Savage reported after hearing the above statements, hethen began to hear additional gunshots comlng from the west side ofthe library. John Savage seated he was uncertain as to the numberof gunshots but knew they continued for approximately two minutes.John Savage stated during that time, he then heard a male voice(believed to be Dylan Klebold) state, WHey, look, it's the littlenigger." John Savage stated the above comment was then followed byIra couple more gunshots," John Savage related he then heardlaugbter, after which cne of the suspects stated! "I can't believeI did that (pacae) cool."

John Savage said he next heard what he thought was a gunshotbut now believes.was an explosion, John Savage stated the reasonhe believed it was an explosion was due to the fact h~ saw"shrapnel" land between tables ff11 and ff14. when asked to describethe shrapnel ( John Savage stated it f~rst caught his attention whenit landed on the carpet and began to rsizzle." John Savage: statedit appeared to be llglowing whit-e" (hot>. John Savage reported atthat point he assumed what he had seen was some type of projectilewha ch had come from "a pipe bomb or something. 'I When asked as tothe size of the object, Jo~~ Savage stated it was small butccecer ed it to the size of an "exe.ser head , 'i when asked if heeouid ~dentify the location where the explosion occurred, JohnSavage sta~ed he thought it was to the west of table #11 but couldnot be more specific.

John Savage reported a short time later he then began to heargunshots coming from the far east side of the library up neartables "one and two," At that point John Savage recalled hearinga female voice begin to shout, "Oh my God. I' John Savage stated thefemale repeated that phrase several ti~es John Savage related atOne poine he then heard one of the suspects state back to thefemale, "De you believe in God?" John Savage related there was abr~ef pause. He then heard the male suspect state, ~Why do youbelieve in God?" John Savage related he believed the male suspectrepeated that ~jestion more than once to ~~ female. Jo~~ Savageindicated he could not hear all of ~he responses from the femalebut believed she was having some type of dialogue with the suspect,

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When asked where the suspect was located when having the dialoguewith the female, John Savage indicated he would have been in thefar east section of the library. John Savage stated he could notbe more specific concerning that point,

When asked what occurred next, John Savage stated it was atthis poin~ he first saw Eric Harris. When asked to identify thelocation where he saw Eric Harr~s, John Savage indicated theforenamed was standing between tables #4 ~~d #6, John Savagestated the forenamed was holding a black in color "carbine rifle. U

When asked to describe the clothing worn by Eric Ha~ri$, JohnSavage explained the forenamed was wearing a "white t-shirt lT withsome type of black shirt/vest over the tap of the t-shirt.According to JOrill Savage, Eric Harris was wearing similar pants andboots as those worn by Dylan Klebold

When asked if he saw Eric Harris firlng the weapon at thatpoint, John Savage responded in the negative. John Savage didclarify a short time later he dld see Eric Harr~s firing a weapon.TO confirmed w~th John Savage he was able to see Eric Harris fromhis position under table #11 due to a pathway between the bookshelves.

IO went on to confirm with John Savage he did not have acontinuous view of Eric Harris after making his first observationof that indiv~dual, John Savage stated there were times he couldnet see Eric Harris nor did he know the exact location of thatindividual John Savage did indicate he was relatively certainEric Harris was still on the east side of the library due to evencswhich occurred later. IO told John Savage he would address thoseissues with him as the interview continued,

IO $ub$eq~ently asked John Savage to relate what he recalledseeing next. John savage stated a short time later he recalledseeing Eric Harris standing between tables #3 and #5 firing whatappeared to be the Hcarbine" rifle in a northeasterly direction,John savage subsequently indicated that observation on the diagramby writing the name "Eric" and drawing an arro.....' in the directionthe individual was firing. After depict~ng that observation on thediagram, John savage seaced ic was possible the forenamed wasfurther to the east, pointing to an area between tables #4 and #6.John Savage staced it was also around that time that he recalledseeing what he thought were" shell casings" hit the floor. JohnSavage described the shell casings as having tI some brass color" buthe could not be more specific. John Savage clarified that theshell casings were belng ejected from che weapon held by EricHarris, When asked if he was certain it was the carbine rifle thatwas ejecting the shell casings, John Savage stated he could not bepositive because he also recalled hearing a "pump action aound"dur~n9 that same time frame. 10 subsequently confirmed with JohnSavage based on the above described observation I he was certainEric Harris was firing a weapon in a northerly direction and that

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some type of spent shell casing was being ejected from the weapon.When asked how many shell casings he thought he saw ejected fromthe weapon (subsequently landing on the floor), John Savage stated I

"About three." John Savage clarified he could not be absolutelypositive concerning that observation (referring to the number ofshell casings I but felt he was fairly accurate.

John Savage next stated moments later he observed 'I a set: oflegs and boots" standing to the northeast of table #11. JohnSavage reported the individual standing at that location then askedin a loud voice, "Do you have the bag?" or lIWhere'$ the bag?H JohnSavage clarified he could not be more specific concerning the quotebut knew the person standing northeast of table #11 was makinginquiries about; a "bag," John Savage explained after the ebo-ve~~estiort was asked, there was pause, after which that same personresponded, "Okay. 1\ John Savage stated even though he did not hearanyone speaking directly with the s~spect standing northeast aftable #11, he assumed someone responded to the question, afterwhich he heard the reply, «okay . II John Savage indicated afterhearing the :suspect state, hOkay," that ind~vidual moved north inche library. Jo~~ Savage stated he did not knew where thatindividual went. John Savage assumed that person was Eric Harrisbased on the sound of his voice and the fact he saw him return ashort time later.

John Savage related very soon thereafter he heard one of thesuspects state, "Let1s go kill some cops." John Savage clarifiedthe above statement was made =y a suspect who was standing in thefar east section of the libra~/. John Savage stated after he heardthat statement, he then heard additional gunshots. John Savageagain clarified the aforementioned gunshots occurred on the fareast .ide of the library.

John Savage clarified at this point he was not certain as tothe exact location of the suspects, John Savage did state it wassoon after that point he saw Brie Harris nor~h of table #11 movingin between the bookshelves towards the east. John savagespeculated it was possibly Eric Harris who had been standing neartable ~ll and then walked north through the center section of thelibrary, however, he could not be positive, John Savage went on torelate after seeing Eric Harris, the forenamed stopped on the westside of table #6 and pointed a weapon undernea~h that table, JohnSavage was uncer~ain whLch weapon was being utilized by Eric Harrisat that point but ~~ew it was not a handgun or pistol. John Savagestated Eric Harris was holding either a "shotgun" or the "carb i ne , I'

The only add~ticnal Lnformation John Savage could provide regardingthe weapon was that it appeared "Lcnqer" than a handgun.

Pursuant to questioning, John Savage stated he was uncertainwhether or not Eric Harris actually fired the weapon while poincingit under table #6. John Savage added moments later he saw EricHarris move to the north side of table #5 and then point a weapon

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under that table. Again John Savage described the weapon as beingHlonger" and believed it either would have been a "sawed offshotgun II or I' carbine. 'l When asked if heheard any gunshot.s whenEric Harris pointed a weapon under either table #6 or table #5,John Savage stated he was uncertain. John Savage stated it waspossible Eric Harris fired a weapon under one or both of thosetables, however, he could not provide any additional informationregarding that point. 10 did confirm with John Savage it appearedas though after Eric Harris had pointed the weapon under table #6,he then moved back to Lhe north side of table #S and point theweapon under that table. When asked if it was possible that EricHarris had walked around to the south side of table #6 prior tomov~ng back to the north side of table #5 1 John Savage stated hedid not recall seelng Eric Ha~ris engage in the above activity.John Savage added It was his opin~on ErLC Harris was looking under'~all the tables." John Savage stated based on the aboveobsexvation, he became very frightened Eric Harris would possiblydiscover where he was hiding.

John Savage reported he next observed Eric Harris walk betweenthe bookshelves in a westerly direction, stopping just to the westof table ~11. John savage indicated at that paint Eric Harris wasstanding close enough that he could "reach out. and touchll him.John Savage reported Eric Harris next "squatted down and pointsthat carbine right at me." John Savage statecl instinctually heleaned forward trying to avoid haVing the weapon pointing directlyat him John Savage stated as he leaned forward, Eric Harrisrepositioned the carbine rifle so it again was pointing in hisdirection, John Savage stated he subsequently leaned back, againto avoid having the weapon pointed directly at him. John Savagestatec. Brie Harris then stood up and seated, "Who is under thistable. identify yourself." John Savage stat.ed he responded. nIt'sJohn." After responding with his first name, John Savage relatedhe then heard a voice he later identified as Dylan Klebold l $ comingfrom a southwesterly direction. John Savage explained he heardDylan Klebold ask, 'lJOhn Savage?" John Savage s e ae.ed he zaaponded ,"Yeah. "

At that point John Savage recalled Eric Harris walking up tothe north end of cable #11 while Oylan Klebold approached table ~ll

from tee wesco John Savage reported he did not immediately seeDylan Klebcld's face but: could see the forenamed holding a "Tech9. II John Savage went on to state he also believed Dylan Kleboldwas holding a sawed off shotgun. John Savage stated he did notbelieve Oylan Klebold was pointing either weapon in his direction.John Savage did relate he believed the "Tech 9 t1 was on DylanKlebold'$ iefe side while the shotgun was held in his right hand.

Jehn Savage stated after Dylan Klebold had walked up to thewest side of table #11, he (John Savagel then looked up and ~made

eye contact with Dylan,~ John savage stated after making contact

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wi t.h the forenamed, he said, IIHi Dy Lan , what are you doing?1F J01"''''J",1Savage related Dylan Klebold responded by shrugging his shouldersand replying, "Oh , just killing people. II John Savage then askedDylan Kkebc Ld , HAre you. going to kill mes " According t.o JohnSavage, Dylan Klehold responded, IINo dude, just get out of here t

just. run. 11 John Savage stated Dylan Klebold may have told him toII run" more than once as if to indicate he should hurry.

John Savage reported after being told to leave the library, hethen pushed the chairs on the west side of table #11 back andexited from that direction. John Savage reported he next proceedednorth through the library. leaving via the east doors. aohn Savagediagramed his path of travel as he left the library. When asked ifhe recalled seeing anyone under table #9 as he left the librarj;John Savage responded in the affirmative. Pursuant to questioningJohn Savage referred to at least one student who was h~ding underthat table. The only information John Savage could provideconcerning that student was that it appeared as though the studentwas seated under the table with the chairs pulled in around him.When asked if he saw any blood on or around that student, JohnSavage responded in the negative and was certain regarding thatissue.

John Savage seated as he exited the library into the hall. heproceeded south at which time he recalled seeing "blood!! in thecarpet John Savage reported the blood trail appeared to extend ashort distance down the south hall. John Savage pointed out hecould not tell which direction the blood trail was going but simplywanted to indicate there was a pattern of blood in the carpet whichextended a short distance; which he estimated to be approximatelythe width of the stairway, John Savage utilized the ColUmbine HighSchool floor plan diagram to indicate the location and size of theblood pat~ern referred to above.

John Savage continued with his explanation by stating hep~oceeded down the stairs to the commons area and then east downthe fore~gn language hall until he could not go any further. JohnSavage seated he then turned to his right (south) and continued inchat direction until he was able to exit the school. John savageclarified from the point he was able to leave the library until hereached a point of safety I he believed he had been Irrunning. rr

When asked whe~e he went after exiting che south side of theschool near the foreign language rooms, John Savage stated hecontinued east on the sidewalk purposely staying away from thelibrary windows. Jor~ Savage stated in the back of his mind hefeared that the suspects may possibly have llchanged their tm.nds"and may want to shoot him as he was fleeing the area. John Savagestated he continued eastbound on the sidewalk until he reachedPierce Street and then went south at that point. John Savagestated he continued southbound until he came in contact with apel ice officer, at which time he put up his hands in an effort to

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indicate he was unarmed. John Savage stated he was ultimatelydirected to a Locac i on near I' Polk and Pierce Streets II wber e therewere approximately 40 to SO other students, in addition toteachers. John savage related he was eventually allowed to returnhome where he was reunited with his family.

When asked if he had any additional recolleecions related tothis investigation I John Savage responded in the affirmative, JohnSavage stated he did have one additional recollection whichoccurred as he was fleeing the schoOl John Savage stated afterdescending the staircase into the commons area, he recalled seeingone of the "pep machines II which appeared to have been damaged..rcnn Savage assumed the pop machine had been damaged by a "pipebomb. 11 IO conf armed with John savage he did not actually see apipe bomb cause damage to the pop machine as he left the school.At that point John Savage told IO shortly after this incidentoccurred. he documented his recollections in writing. IOsubsequently asked Jo~~ Savage if he could have a copy of what hehad written. John Savage responded in the affirmative andsubsequently printed 10 a two page copy from his computer. 10would note he had the opportunity to review John Savage'sdocumentacion of this event, at which time it appeared to beconsistent with the statement he previously provided. IOsubsequently concluded his contact with John Savage. See thediagrams and typed statement supplied by John Savage for completedetails.

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Scott. Afterbeing advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent andInvestigator Diane Obbema, Jefferson Couney Sheriff's Department,Scott furnished the following information:

Scott is a Sophomore at Columbine High School. Scottis the younger brother of shooting victim Rachel Scott.

During first period running from 7:30 a.m. to 8:20a.m., Scott has Spanish with Ms. Killion. During second periodScott has American History with Miss Hayes. Second period runsfrom 8:25 a.m. to 9:20 a.m. Second period has an additional fiveminutes during which school announcements are made. The RebelNews Network is shown on televisions in the classroom. On April20, 1999, Scott watched the announcements. The announcementswere presented in a 1960'S style. At the end of theannouncements a 'phrase of the day" is usually given. The phraseof the day for April 20, 1999, inCluded a reference to 420. Thisis a police code for marijuana. Scott thought this was areference stating "guess what" they were going to be doing thatday and that was smoking marijuana. Third period runs from 9:25a.m. to 10:15 a.m" and Scott has American Literature with Mr.Friesen. Scott has no class during fourth period which runs from10:20 a.m. to 11:10 a.m.

During forth period on April 20, 1999, Soott went tchis Biology classroom and was talking to his Biology teacherabout a quiz that he would have later in the day. He left thatclassroom at approximately 10:50 a.m., and went to the cafeteria(commons area. He sat at a table with Mike Leary, Chad Roybal,Josh Buschman, Mark Ba1legeer, Eric Trujillio and DominickDeSaverio. Scott ate his lunoh real quiCk and at approximately11:00 a.m., Trujillio threw his car keys at Scott asking if hecould unlock Trujillio's oar. Trujillio wanted his car unlockedso his brother could get a bag out of it a short time later.Scott went to the back of the Senior Parking Lot and unlockedTrujillio's car. After unlocking the car, Scott returned to thetable in the commons. At approximately 11,07 a.m., Scott left

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the commons to go to the library. When he left everyone wasstill at the table. Attachment A is a diagram of the Cafeteriaat Columbine High School Scott indicated on the diagram he wassitting at the table marked as "U". Scott remembers leaving theCafeteria at 11:07 a.m., as he always made sure to go to theLibrary before the rush of students after fourth period ended at11:10 a.m, Scott did not see anything unusual in the parking lotor the commons area,

Scott walked in the Library and remembers seeing MattKechter sitting at table #17, Evan Todd at the computer tablesand the two librarians behind the counter. He may also have seenCassie Bernal on the east side of the Library. Scott went to thewest side and put his stuff down at table #17, He then went overto table #8 and sat down between Byron Kirkland and BrittanyEollerud. Scott has a math class with Kirkland and wanted totalk to him about the class, Also seated at the table were AaronCohn and Josh Lapp. Scott was at table #8 for a couple ofminutes, but does not recall seeing Isiah Shoels at that cable,

At approximately 11:15 a.m., Scott was back standing bytable #17. While he was still standing, he heard what he thoughtwere gunshots coming from an area by the back door of theLibrary, It sounded like paint balls from a paintball gunhitting the door, Scott looked across the room toward Evan Toddand they smiled at each other, thinking the noise was from asenior prank. Scott then looked out the windows and could seestudents backing up and running behind the hill by the soccerfield, They were looking toward the top of the stair area nearthe back door of the Libra~/. Approximately two minutes laterwhile Scott was still standing, he saw a female teacher run intothe Library. The teacher stated something to the affect of"there's kids with guns out there shooting other kids". Scottdoes not know the teacher and described her as 5'6" tall withblond hair, The teacher went behind the librarian's counter, Astudent then walks in the Library and falls down and his legslooked bloody. The teacher, now behind the librarian's counter,says "everybody under the desks". Scott said it felt like adream and everyone in the Library kind of "stalled". The teacherthen stated again, "go under the desks, I'm not joking", scottthen went around table #17 and get underneath. Scott could see alight skinned girl with black hair, walking calmly along thewindows of the west Library. She walked over near table *20 and

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appeared to be telling friends that there were kids with pipebo~bs and guns outside. Scott could not hear specific comments.Someone then told her to get down. Isiah Shoels came over andgot under table #17 with Scott and Matt Kechter. Soott was onthe south end of the table with his view toward the referencetable. Kechter was on the north end of the table and Shoels wasin the middle. All three were within the support legs of thetable. Attachment B is a diagram of the Columbine High SchoolLibrary. Scott indicated on the diagram where he saw Todd,Kechter, Lapp, Cohn, Kirkland, Bollerud and the Librarians priorto getting under his table.

Scott then began hearing gunshots and at least twoexplosions in the hallway outside the Library. The explosionsshook the ground and Scott. The gunshots and explosions appearedto be moving closer to the Library in the hallway. The fireala+m in the hallway began going off. The alarm was very highpitched and loud.

Scott then heard gunmen coming into the Library. Thegunmen began shooting right after they entered the front entranceof the Library. No one in the Library was talking and ScottCQuld hear the gunmen saying things. The gunmen went inca theeast area of the Library and Scott heard one of them state, "I'vebeen waiting for this for a long time". Scott saw one of thegunmen near the reference table. He described the gunman astall, wearing a black hat with blond hair coming out of the hat.The gunman was a wearing a trenchcoat and Scott noticed somethingwhite underneath the coat. The gunman was carrying a sawed-off,short-barreled shotgun in his right hand. Scott placed the nameDylan Klebold with the ~Jnman after seeing his name and picturein the media.

Scott than heard a frantic female voice state, "oh mygod, I don't wanna die". This was followed by a gunman stating,"do you believe in God". Scott heard a response to the effect cf"please I don't want to die'. The gunman then asked again if thatperson believed in God. Scott heard her respond, "yes I do".This was followed by several gunshots and Scott did not hear hervoice again. At that point he could hear other female studentsmaking noises and being frantic. During this conversationShoels, Kechter and Scott were just looking at each other inamazement.

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The next comment Scott heard was one of the gunmenstating, ·get ting a fucking jock". He also heard one of themstate, "get anyone wi t n white hats". At that point Scott tookoff his white hat and put it underneath his shirt. Scott thenheard gunshots in the computer area, north of his table. Heheard cne of the gunmen state, "are you a jock" and he thought heheard Todds' voice respond. This was followed by more gunshots.Scott then hears who believes is Klebold talking to a Hispanicgirl near table #20. He then heard gunshots in that area. Atthis point Scott is laying down underneath his table in a fetalposition with his head underneath the table. He could see towardtable #20 and if he turned his neck to the front area. Scottmostly was trying to keep his head facing down and was notlooking around.

After hearing the gunshots near table #20, he believesKlebold saw Isiah Shoels and yellS to the other gunman, ·there's afucking Nigger over here". Scott did not look up and there wasa pause in the conversation between the gunmen. At the same timeKlebold makes his "Nigger" comment Scott is hearing gunshots inan area over by the computer tables. Scott then heard the othergunmen say something to the effect of "get that fucking Nigger".He ~~ickly looked up and could see Shoels trying to back awaytoward the east. Scott looked back down and heard gunshots (morethan one), possibly from a shot gun. The sounds from thegunshots and possibly an explosion were so loud that Scottthought his ears were going to bleed. For a short period of timeafter the gunshots and explosion under his table, Scott's memoryis "fuzzy". Based on the way the gunmen referred to Shoels,Scott thought that they didn't really know Shoels personally.

Scott continued to keep his head down and was praying.He prayed the whole time the gunmen were in the Library. He wasquietly praying and was probably was only moving his lips.Scott's memory is fuzzy after the shooting under his table, butthinks the gunmen left his area of the Library and moved to otherareas and continued shooting. The gunmen were probably in theLibrary for eight minutes, but it seemed that they were theremuch longer. Scott thought the gunmen had been in the middlearea of the Library prior to shooting Shoels and also after theyleft the weSt side of the Library. Scott did look up at onepoint to look at Shoels and Kechter. Shoels was lying downfacing away and was in a pool of blood. Kechter seemed to be

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leaning against a chair with his eyes shut and blood coming outof his ears. Kechter had a hole in his side or his stomach andsmoke was coming out of the hole. Shoels and Kechter wereleaning against each other and both were breathing and moaning atthat time. There was so much blood under the table that theblood on Scott's pants may have come from Shoels or Kechter.Scott looked back down and continued to pray the same prayer overand over. He asked God to take away the fear and give himstrength.

During about the time Scott looked at Shoels andKechter f he remembers hearing a gunmen star.s , III wonder what's itlike to use a knife on someone". The gunmen was very close by,but Scott could give no direction.

After the knife comment the Library got quiet and Scottcould hear gunfire coming from the hallway outside of theLibrary. Scott after aSking God to take away the fear and givehim strength said, "I think they're gone, let's get out of here".Scott got up and started to move and as he approached table t18could see Byron Kirkland standing up near table t20. Kirklandand Cohn had apparently gotten under table n20. Scott did notknow how they had gotten back to that table from their originalseats at table #8.

As Scott turned to look toward the computer tables andthe back door of the Library, he saw a girl under the computertable. The girl, he believes named Kacey, was not tucked totallyunder the desk and had a big hole in her right shoulder. Scottcould see her shoulder joint and blood running down her arm. Henoted everyone was getting up slowly around him. The girl undarthe computer desk stated, "please help me". Scott went, over toher and helped her get up and then put his arm around her and herarm around his neck. Together they then moved along the westwindows toward the back door. A number of students who had beenmoving towards the back door had run into the first conferenceroom/office on the way to the back door. They quickly ran out ofthe room to the back exit as more of the students headed thatway. Scott and the girllKacey) did not go in that room, butcontinued down the hall to the back door. By the back door Scottgot kind of knocked off of the girl (Kacey) in a rush of students.At that po~nt the girllKacey) was able to walk and they both ranup behind a police car parked on the side of the hill.

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Approximately fifteen students were hiding behind thepolice car. Behind the police car were two police officerspointing their guns toward the Library. The cops began askingthe students questions and Scott remembers answering the policeofficer in a shaky voice. The police officer asked what they(the gunmen) looked like and Scott told the police officer therewas two of them. One he said was in a black trenchcoat and blackhat. The police officer then asked how many were dead and hetold him, he didn't know. The police officer then asked where inthe Library the subjects were and Scott told them they had leftthe Library and he heard gunshots in the hallways outside of theLibrary. This police officer was near the front tire of thepolice car. Attachment C is diagram of Columbine High Schoolincluding the parking lots. Scott indicated on the diagram thelocation of the police car.

While he was behind the police car, Scott continued tosilently pray. One of the police officers told the students tohelp the other injured students. Scott began talking to theinjured students and told them they Were okay and they Were outof the school. He also told them they should pray for the kidsstill inside the school. He held the hand of one injured boy wholooked like he was going to black out. He continued talking tothe boy to try to keep him awake. He told the boy he was prayingfor him and that there was power in prayer. At the same time, hecould See other police officers along the fence up the hillbehind them. He asked some of the other students if they had anybrothers and sisters in the school and said he would pray forthem. He told some of the students to pray for those studentsstill in the school, who may be in the same position that theywere in the Library. He did lead a small group in prayer. Hethen started to talk with a female student who had been shot inthe stomach and helped her pray. Scott did recall seeing ByronKirkland, Aaron Carill, Josh Lapp and two oriental sisters, one ofwhom had been were shot, behind the police car.

After a period of time another police car oame down cotheir location. The most seriously injured students were loadedinto th~s first vehicle and rive injured students were crammedinto the back cf the pol~ce car. A couple minutes later anotherpolice car came down to their location and was filled with moreinjured students. Scott tried to help Dan Steepleton, who had aninjured leg, get into the police car. Three more police cars

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came down to their location and transported students away fromthe scene. Scott continued his praying as the students werebeing shuttled away. The two police officers behind his vehicledid shoot at something or someone at one point. He oelieves thatsomeOne may have been firing at the police car as he heard One ofthe cops say 1 Uthey're shooting at us". Scott got in the last carwith the last three students that were behind the police car.The police car dropped them off in a cul-de-sao at theneighborhood that backs up to the school property and Clemantpark.

At the cul-de-sac Scott continued to pray, as this wasthe only thing he knew to do. Scott was with a group ofapproximately seven students holding hands and praying for theothers students. A number of the students in this group hadbrothers or sisters still in the school. While they were prayingone of the student's brother or sister arrived at the cul-de-sacand the group believed their prayers were being answered.

Scott was able to use a telephone and call his mom. Hetold her to pray for his sister Rachel Scott. Scott had a badfeeling at that point in time that his sister may have beeninjured. Approximately two to three periods after the incident,he was already accepting the fact that his sister may be dead.

Scott did feel three or four big explosions in theLibrary at the time the shooting occurred. He cannot place theexplosions in sequence with the gunmen's movement within theLibrary. He did hear two Or so explosions prior to the gunmenentering the Library. There were additional explosions after thegunmen left the Library or as they were leaving the Library.Scott did not see the second gunmen and only saw that he waswearing black Army or military style boots He oannot place thelocation that he saw the second gunmen's boots.

Scott did not know Dvlan Klebold or Eric Harris. Hehad Seen both of them around school, but did not know theirnames. Scott never had any classes with either Klebold orHarris.

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contained books, notebooks, and a Texas Instrument TI83calculator. Scott left his white hat On the floor near histable.

Scott's locker number is #1893 and is located near theauditorium, He did not believe there was much in his lockerexcept school work.

Rachel Scott's locker number was #1404 and was locatednear the front entrance on the south side of the hall. RachelScott did have a diary which is probably in her locker that theScott family would like to receive back.

On May 27, 1999, Craig Scott was interviewed at hishome in the presence of his mother, Beth Nimmo. Scott clarifiedinformation furnished in his initial interview with Special AgentJohn M. Elvig and furnished the following additional information:

Scott was at the home of Aaron and Brooks Brown duringthe Summer of 1998 or 1997, They were all up late one night andthe two brothers were talking about how easy it was to build abomb. Aaron and Brooks got onto the Internet and began searchingspecific words. They were basically researching the differenttype of bombs that could be made using household products. Scottwas no~ really paying and does not recall any additionalspecifics. Scott knew Brooks Brown to be on the In~ernet a lotplaying games and surfing. He also enjoyed playing the gameDoom.

Scott has played basketball with Aaron Brown at theBrown's house on several occasions. They did play with andagainst some of Brooks' friends, Those friends very possiblyincluded Harris and Klebold. Sco~t specifically remembersplaying wi~h ~wo friends of Brooks' wi~h blonde hair. One ofthem may have been named Eric.

Eric Brechun is a friend of Aaron Brown and may knowadditional information about Brooks Brown.

Scott did remember hearing a commentone of the ~~nmen concerning somebody's brains.this ccmment may have been about Shoels.

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The following supplemental repor~ is related to DN t4949.

During the week beginning on OS/24/99 Detective Boatright (!OJwas requested to assist Detective Battan and Sergeant West (membersof the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office) with contacts related tofamily members of deceased victims as wall as surviving victims andtheir families. Specifically during that week, arrangemencs hadbeen made to allow the aforementioned groups of people to enter thelibrary (scheduled individually by family) and observe the crimescene in a general over/iew. lO's presence was requested to answergeneral quest~ons related to events occurring in the library. IOwas also asked to be present in the event a surviving witness hadan addieional reCOllection while Viewing the cr~me scene.

10 would, note he has prev10usly been assigned as the teamleader to the library which then gave him the responsibility ofoverseeing and conducting the investigation concerning the eventsoccurring at tr~t location as it pertained to witness statements.As a result, IO conducted numerous interviews with survivinglibrary witnesses and had also reviewed all other interviewsconducted with surviving witnesses fxom tbat same location. As ofthe date indieaeed above I IO was very familiar with the witnesses'accounts of the events occurring in the library during the incidenten 04/20/99.

On OS/25/~9 at approximately l330 hours, IO along withSergeant West were present in the library with Crai9 SCOtt andvarious members of his family. During that time, Craig Scott wasrelating to his fathe~ the eve~t6 which occurred on 04/20/99 as herecalled them. Craig Scoct was standing near table #16 whenproviding his account of the incident. The initial informationbeing relayed by Craig ScOtt waS consistent wich a statement hepreviously prQvided investigators assigned to the library team. Atone point during his explanation, Craig Scott made reference to thestatements he attributed to "Cassie Bernall!! as it relat.ed. to aconversation she had with one of the sus~ects. Craig Scott wasrefe=ring to his recollection of Cassie Be=nall being shot afterone of the suspects asked her if she believed in God and she hadresponded in the affirmative,

As Craig Scott related the ahove event to his father, theforenamed indieated {by pointingl Cassie Bernall was seated ateither table #1 Or #2 (per the diagram). craig Scott then turnedto IO and Serge~~t West and asked for ~la=ification as to whetherCassie Bernall was Lcca t ed at table #1 or #2. IO deferred the~~e6cion to Seraeant West, who subseauentlv told Craig SCOtt Cassieie~all was noe-located in the north~ast seccion o~ the libraryduring this incident.

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Craig Scott responded to that information by stating. !'Well,she was up there tnen,u as he pointed to th~ north tables {#3 and#7) located in the Ce~te~ section of the library, As before, 10allowed Sergeant West to answer. Sergeant West again told CraigScott he was incorrect. Upon receiving that information, CraigScott hecame aclamant he heard the conversation between CassieBernall and one of the suspects, a.dding I t! She was acmewhexe overthere! (pointing northeast;, I know that:. for a fact. " SergeantWest 49ain told craig Scot~ he was incorrect J after which tbeforenamed asked, j'Where was she 'Chen?'" Sergeant. W"e,sc turned andpointed to table #19 indicating Caasie Bernall was under that tableduring the incident. 10 next observed Craig Scott begin to shakehis head back and forth as if he was in disagreement with SergeantWest. Craig Scott did not make any more statements.

Moments late~ Craig Scott informed those presen~ he needed toleave the library, indicating he was ill. 10 accompanied CraigScott out of the library and then east down the north hall" CraigScott eventually sat down in the center of the hall and remainedquiet" After several minutes, Craig Scott apologized for becomingill and advised he was feeling batter.

While waitin9 for Craig Scott's family to leave the librarjand rejoin him, IO again confirmed with the forenamed theconv~rsation h$ heard involving God occurred on the east side ofthe library, IO reas$u~ed the forenamed other witnesses had hear~

a con~ersation about God which they too indicated occurred on theeast side of the library, IO did not comment regardins craigScott's mistaken belief Cassie Bernall was located on the east sideof t.he library.

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REPORT DATE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL CASE NO.May3. 1999 STATEOF COLORADO 99-7625

TYPE OF REPORT REPORT BY AREAProgress lev.Gory Clyman Jefferson County

NATURE OF CASECOLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL I HOMICIDE

INTERVIEW OF AMANDA NICOLESTAIR (CHSSTUDENT1LIBRARY)

1. On April 27, 1999 JCSD Iav, DonEstep and I went to theresidence of LoriStair(mctneref Joe""dAmanda Stair, 7097 W< FrostPL, LillJetoo. CO. (303) 979·3343, initially for the purpose of lnrerviewingJoe Stairregarding !lisrelationship with EricHarris and Dylan Klebold. Afterconcludlng tbatinterview werequested an inreniewwith Amanda Stair(DaB<1119183), the 15year-old sisterof JoeStair,whois.CHSstudent, and waspresent in the school library during thehcmicides which occurred there onApril20,1999< Weinterviewed Amanda Stairat that time with hermother present

2. Amanda stated thar on April 20. 1999 shebed arrived at CHSarapproximately 8:10am., missing her firstbout class. Sheattendee 2nd, Srd,and4thhour. and taea went [0 thelibrary alone to read the newspaper,sittingin back nearthewindows overlooking thestudent parking area(see#1 onanacnedmap). Atapproximately II :30am., sheheard "popping noises" which sounded like firecrackers outdoors, in thearea of "tbe hill" Shedidnotgetup to lookoutside, assuming it wasa studentprank.

3. A fewminutes later.a female student (name unknown). ran intothelibrary, hysterical. screaming thatsomeone was sheeting. The female librarian (llllIIle unknown, greyhair), toldall of the students '0 getundertables.Amanda left the table shewas ill' (#1).andmoved to a table nearthecomputers nearthe frontof thelibrary.polling a chairin frontofher forprotection (see112 on map). Another fernakl studentunknown to her.hut later idendJiedas Casey Rudensager ??'I'?? crawled underanother desknext toAma.nda

4. While there.shecontinued to hell! louder popping noises. which sounded as if theywere inside the school.Fromhervantagepous; Amanda couldseetbeenrmnce to the library Shesawtwo(2) males enter.butthroughout the ineider!, couldonlysee !hem from thewaist-down, wealing long. blacktrencbcoan"likemybrother" (JoeStair)". black boots,onewith a gun. described as"a shiny metal pistol",strapped to hisright leg Shethenobserved and heardthem move about within thelibrary asdescribed below

5. As theyentered. the two gmllllen statedto everyone presect, "Evaryone standupright nowor we'll blowyourfuckingheads off!" Amanda remained where sbe was. tooafraid to move, and isnot aware of anyothers moving either, Shethen couldseethetwogunmen begin moving aboutthelibrary. andcouldbearthemshocting andtaIlting to eachother. Shebeard onereferto theotheras"Reb".Although shedid notseethemshoot anyvictims. sheguttheimpression that theywere shooting at students as theywalkedaround. During thistime. sbeheard oneof them say. "Look ill' thisnigger". and thenfirea weapon.

6. Amanda sawthegunmen place. gun with hislefthalld onthe table where shebed originally beenlocated(#1) Shedescribed it as "long andshiny", andsaidhe was wearingblackgloves. Hethenpickedthe gunup.and began firing again. Dering thistime shecould hearthe fire alarm sounding. and the air smoUed likegunpowder.

7 Oneof thegunmen then walked overto where sheandCasey wen: hiding underadjacent rabies. andstoopedoverto lookunderwhere Caseywas. Shemenheard a single gunshot nextto her. so loud she waspartially deafened for. while. Shedidnot bearthe'hooter sayanything to Casey beforeheshot ber, nordid she bearanything fromber. TItegunman then walked overtowhereAmanda was hiding. and she told

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us that shetbougtlt silewould he shotand die,The gunman <toadat her table, and she beard biroplacewhatshe believes wasa gunon the tabletop, He then picked up the gun andbegan firing again,and oneofthemshotout the firealarm0.. of thegunmen then announced, "DOll' t worry, you'llall going to bedeadin a fewminutes", Shecould h"'" Caseynext to her,cryingsoftly, andwbispeIed tn her, asking if.he wasokay, Casey told bet"yes",andthatshe had been'hot in the arm Am.aru:la continued to whisper to her inanefforttocomfort he;', She then heard thegunmen talk about wanting to blow-up the library, afterwhichshebeard two explosions nearthe library entrance, anddebris fallirlg from the <:eiliIlg, Aller tim, il w'"'quiet,andthegunmen appearedto have left

&, Amanda then crawled outfromunderher table andwentto Casey to assist her,At thattimea malestudentin a redshirt. unknown to herbut lateridentified as Craig Scott, alsocrawled out froma near-by table,beganassisting Amanda in ilelping Casey, who hadbeenshotin theshoulder, outof thelibrary. Theyhelped bet into. smalloffice areain thelibrary(#3), which had anexttdoor to theolllSlde. As theydidthis, several otherstudents in the library alsolettvia the samedoor(Jl4). Allof them tan tonem'by policecarswhen: theysought cover. As theyleft. shecould~ continumg gunfirein the ballwurs of the scbocl.Am.aru:laestimared tb'01 sheg<lt outof the library at or aboutll :45lllIl.

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9. Whenshearrived behind the police Cat, another injuredstudent, ldeedfiedto herasGin.Park,(possiblyshot in thelibrary),and hadbeenhelped outside byothers, Twootherboys(names unknown. shot IIIleglknee), hadbeenhelped '0 safety beltind the potroi car, andall of theinjared wereassisted intoa car,wbere theyweredriven away. Shortly tbereatrer, a largetruckpulledupto theirlocation. andevacuated betandseveral otherstudents. Theywere dropped offat the IJ'lI!<. and shefollowed. number of adults,climbing a fence andentering. smalIlIllIintenanee building. It was fromtherethat ,be unsuccessfully tried'0 call herneandconract hermother, One adUlt at therlccadon known to her wasthemother of studentKevinHaney. Theyremained therefor approximately 20minutes, andwerethen driven to the pUhlJclibrary, where she was ableto contacthermother, While at thelibrary shegave a statement to thepolice(male officer in lCSOuniform). Amanda said that shelefther blJrl:duffel bagin the libtary, whichcontainedhersrnde.tlD and eyeglasses.Inv, Estep refmed Am.aru:la to JCSD Victim Advocate for

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CAROLE WELD, DOBflO-07-38

5952 West Canyon Avenue

Littleton, Colorado 80128

(303) 979-5366

INVESTIGATION:

On 06-01-99, at about 1030 hours, 1 interviewedCarole Weld at her residence. Weld is a library tech for Columbine High

School. I asked Weld to explain to me the activities and observations on 4--20~99

Weld arrived at Columbine High School and parked in the facultyparking lot at about 0655 hourson 4-20-99. Shestated she

parked her vehicle, facing the school. Nothing was out of the ordinary, I asked her if she saw anyone carrying anything that

appeared to be heavy. She stated she did not. Shearrived In the libraryat about 0700 hours. Weldstated that the library is

generally open at 0630 hours. Once she arrived in the librarythere were 15 to 20 students already there, I asked her if she

could recall the names of those students. She could not.

[asked Weid about her prior knowledge ofDylan Klebold and Eric Harris. She stated she knew Klebold by sight, but did not

knowhisname Shestated that Klebold wouldoftenbe in the libraryand that he wasnot a problem. Shestatedshe did not know

Eric Harris at all

I asked Weld if anything unusual occurred prior to the shoonng on 4-20-99 She stated that detectors for the entranceof the

library' were going off all morning She stated that it had occurred the previous day as well. She stated when students would

gothrough the detectorsthe alarmwouldactivate.Theywould then checkthe studentsbackpacks. butwouldfind nothing being

takenout of the librarythat should nothave beentaken out Weld statedthat the alarm system had neverhad a problembefore.

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Other than that Itwas an average morning I asked Weld ifshe happenedto see the Rl\'N announcements during second period,

She stated she did not

[asked Weld to tell me when she first noticed something out of the ordinary. She stated that her boss, Liz Keating, left the

library at about 1045 hours to go to lunch. I asked her if she was sure that it was 1045 and not IllS. She stated she believed

it was l045 She stated that Keating goes home for lunch and lives somewhere near Pinehurst County Club. Keating has two

dogs and she usually goes home during lunch to let the dogs out. Weld then slated that first lunch starts shortly after 1100

Weld stated that during first lunch 50 to 60 students were in the library. In the library with her was assistant Lois Kean, Rich

Long, a computer technician, and Peggy Dodd, who also works with computers. Weld stated that Dodd had come into the

librarv to ask Long aquestion. Weld stated shethen heard five tosix sounds which she thought were"construction nails" Weld

-md Kean lookedat each other. Kean asked if there was some workbeing done in the RNN studio Weld said she would check

I asked Weld if there had been any kind of prior construction work being done in or around the library She said no,

Weld went into the magazine room, then rhrough a conference room and into the northwest hallway She walked into the

conference room, which is the one furthest to the north and next to the northwest exit. Inside that conference room are two

windows, One window faces the north. one window faces the west

Weld stated that as she was standing in the room near the west window she looked out that v.... indow and saw a white male.

about 18 years old. with short dark hair, the color she described as brown, fairly short possibly a crew cut, wearing a light

colored shirt, possibly tan in color. leaning against the new fence next to the library. This male was holdinga gun in his hand.

1asked Weld if the male she saw was wearing a bat. She stated she didn't think '0, She could see the young man's profile,

later that night. when she was watching LV., she saw photographs of Dylan Klebold and Eric Hams. She stated that Eric

Harris' picture matched the profile of the suspect she saw leaning against the fence with the gun.

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Weld stated that her Impression was that Harris' gun had jammed on him. I asked her why she thought this. She stated it Was

because he was using "very bad language " I asked her to describe to me What he was saying. She stated Hams was saying

things as, "God damn" and "Fuck it " I asked her to describe the gun which Harris held. She stated it was a short gun with a

very long handle. Weld stated that Harris was holding the gun in his left hand. She slated h. was holding it on a part of the gun

that came down from the barrel. Harris was standing on the north side ofthe new fence and he was not firing the weapon while

Weld was observing him. Weld could not recall seeing any other weapon' on Harris. She stated she could see him from his

waist up and was probably 20 feet from him.

Weld also saw out the west window a young man lying on the sidewalk just outside the cafeteria doors, She described him as

being in the fetal position. She also looked to the west and saw a male student dragging another male student to the west

towards a building which is to the west of the school. Weld could see that the boy being dragged had blood all over his right

"lip. As he was being dragged he was leaving a trail of blood on the grass, The boys were on a grassy sloop that had young

trees nearby, She described both males as probably being white males,

Weld saw a second gunmen who she knew to be Dylan Klebcld. I asked her to describe him to me. She stated he was tall with

sandy blond hair. wearing a black hat which had a bnm to it He was also wearing a long black trench coat and black high top

shoes. Weld stated earlier that she did not know Klebold by name. but knew him by sight Later that evening. when Dylan

Klebold's picture was shown on television as a suspect in the Columbine shootings, she stated that the picture shown was of

the individual she had just described to me.

Weld stated that Klebold had a long gray colored pipe. possibly in his right hand. She described it as looking like a "grenade

launcher:' She described it as being cylinder In shape. 2to 3 feet long. She said It reminded her of the potato launcher some

of her fnends have. Weld stated that in Kleboki's other hand was a long black grenade. She stated that it was her impression

that Klebold was going to put the grenade into the pipe that he held In bis other hand She stated that Klebold was standing

slightly behind Harris and a few feet to the west of Harris. She stated that Klebold was looking to the east at the west exit

double glass doors These are the main exit doors on the west side of the second level north hallway

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