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CHEMICAL PROCESSING – SUPPLIER ACTION TEAM (CP-SAT) FEBRUARY 2018 CONFIRMED CONFIRMED CHEMICAL PROCESSING – SUPPLIER ACTION TEAM MINUTES 21-Feb-2018 Madrid, Spain These minutes are not final until confirmed by the CP-SAT in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the CP-SAT and shall not be considered as such by any agency. Wednesday, 21 October 1.0 OPENING COMMENTS Call to Order The Chemical Processing Supplier Action Team (CP-SAT) meeting was called to order at 2:30p.m., on 21-Feb-2018. It was verified that only Supplier Members and Performance Review Institute (PRI) Staff were in attendance during the meeting. Routing of attendance list Introductions Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member) NAME COMPANY NAME Matthew Akin TrueLogic Company, LLC James Brinker Magnetic Inspection Laboratory * Phillip Brockman Techmetals, Inc. Pinar Canan Babaoglu Turkish Aerospace Industries Susana Cano Peñalver Centro Tratamientos de Superficie, s.l.u. * Stéphane Chaumeil GALION * Jim Cummings Metal Finishing Company, Inc. * Daniel French Aerofin Laboratories Ltd * Paul French Aerofin Laboratories Ltd * Eric Jacklin F.M. Callahan & Son Inc Simon Jones NU-PRO LIMITED Ana Larraya Duque ACATEC * Rosa Martin Superior Plating * Julie Nguyen Element Materials Technology * Mike Noettl Magnetic Inspection Laboratory José Manuel Rodríguez Gámez Centro Tratamientos de Superficie, s.l.u. Francisco Javier Santos Centro Tratamientos de Superficie, SLU * Tammi Schubert Helicomb Intl. Inc.

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Page 1: CPMinutesOct2014UNCONFIRMED€¦ · Web viewMotion made by Tammi Schubert and seconded by Jim Cummings to approve the minutes from the October 2017 meeting. Motion Passed. Mike Noettl

CHEMICAL PROCESSING – SUPPLIER ACTION TEAM (CP-SAT)FEBRUARY 2018

CONFIRMED

CONFIRMED CHEMICAL PROCESSING – SUPPLIER ACTION TEAM MINUTES21-Feb-2018

Madrid, Spain

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the CP-SAT in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the CP-SAT and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

Wednesday, 21 October

1.0 OPENING COMMENTS

Call to Order

The Chemical Processing Supplier Action Team (CP-SAT) meeting was called to order at 2:30p.m., on 21-Feb-2018.

It was verified that only Supplier Members and Performance Review Institute (PRI) Staff were in attendance during the meeting.

Routing of attendance list

Introductions

Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

Matthew Akin TrueLogic Company, LLCJames Brinker Magnetic Inspection Laboratory

* Phillip Brockman Techmetals, Inc.Pinar Canan Babaoglu Turkish Aerospace IndustriesSusana Cano Peñalver Centro Tratamientos de Superficie, s.l.u.

* Stéphane Chaumeil GALION* Jim Cummings Metal Finishing Company, Inc.* Daniel French Aerofin Laboratories Ltd* Paul French Aerofin Laboratories Ltd* Eric Jacklin F.M. Callahan & Son Inc

Simon Jones NU-PRO LIMITEDAna Larraya Duque ACATEC

* Rosa Martin Superior Plating* Julie Nguyen Element Materials Technology* Mike Noettl Magnetic Inspection Laboratory

José Manuel Rodríguez Gámez Centro Tratamientos de Superficie, s.l.u.Francisco Javier Santos Centro Tratamientos de Superficie, SLU

* Tammi Schubert Helicomb Intl. Inc.Bartosz Wojtczak Nu-Pro LimitedGaël Zamora GIT

PRI Staff Present

Ethan AkinsNigel CookChristine Nesbitt

1.1 Review rules of conduct

Raise hands to speak

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CHEMICAL PROCESSING – SUPPLIER ACTION TEAM (CP-SAT)FEBRUARY 2018

CONFIRMED

One person speaks at a time

1.2 Approval of the minutes of the previous meeting.

Motion made by Tammi Schubert and seconded by Jim Cummings to approve the minutes from the October 2017 meeting. Motion Passed.

2.0 NEW MEMBER ORIENTATION

Mike Noettl reviewed the functions and operation of the Nadcap Chemical Processing Task Group (CPTG) as well as the role of this committee in support of the Task Group.

3.0 CP-SAT MISSION STATEMENT

The CP-SAT mission statement was reviewed.

4.0 STATUS OF OPEN ACTION ITEMS

Unacceptable Visual Conditions: Parts are being rejected by customers due to “unacceptable visual conditions” but they are compliant to specification requirements. Examples are different shades of color due to weld zones, post process heat treatment tarnishing. Suppliers need to build a case in order to address this issue. The information required, subject to export control, is a picture of the rejected item showing the defect that was the reason for rejection, the specification requirements for inspection and acceptance.

Suppliers to send examples to Mike Noettl ([email protected]).

Jim Cummings to provide training information that he has given to his customers.

Action Item: Jim Cummings to provide training information that he has given to his customers. (Due Date: 20-Jun-2018)

Can examples of acceptable visual conditions due to substrate material, prior processing, etc. be included in the process specifications.

REACH: What do the Subscribers want reporting. Suppliers to share practices on how they meet reporting requirements, bring examples to the next meeting. Action: Closed.

AS9100 Existence vs Compliance: The CPTG have reviewed AC7108 and the slash sheets for existence vs compliance and submitted a list of questions to the Aerospace Quality System (AQS) Task Group for review and feedback. AQS have provided feedback and they believe about 10 questions violate PD 1100 requirements. Will review in the Task Group meeting, either this meeting or June 2018.

Supplier Attendance at Nadcap Meetings: Can the Nadcap Auditors “sell” the virtues of the Nadcap meetings at the opening/closing meetings when conducting an audit so that the company directors get the message to support them. Jim Cummings reported that Nadcap Auditors to sell the importance of the Nadcap meetings. Waiting on Joanna Kennedy to prepare a handout.

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CHEMICAL PROCESSING – SUPPLIER ACTION TEAM (CP-SAT)FEBRUARY 2018

CONFIRMED

Action Item: Nigel Cook to follow-up with Joanna Kennedy on Auditor handout. (Due Date: 20-Jun-2018)

AC7108 & Slash Sheets: Can we have breakout groups that discuss common NCRs for those checklists and propose alternative wording. Does it tie into the base checklist requirement?

Action Item: Nigel Cook to add to the next CP-SAT agenda to review the top NCR questions for rewording/guidance. (Due Date: 20-Jun-2018)

CP-SAT: Can the CP-SAT meeting be moved to middle of the day rather than in the evening. It has to take place after the open meeting on Tuesday, rooms are not available to run it in parallel. Action: Closed.

Flowdown and Contract Review: People to bring best practice of contract review to the next meeting in Madrid. (Dennis Reidy, Kim Porter, Jim Dodge, Dave Sexton, Mike Noettl). No best practices were presented. D14426, Appendix D has a set of questions on contract flowdown and there is one on eAuditNet. Action: Closed.

Flowdown: Can this be discussed at Supplier Support Committee (SSC) and Nadcap Management Council (NMC). Eric to raise the issue to SSC. Members asked to identify this issue in the 2017 survey. Feedback to SSC, e.g. supplier survey, has indicated that flowdown from customers is acceptable and the SSC is not doing any action on flowdown. The CP presentation on Top 10 NCRs shows internal flowdown of specification requirements is lacking. Discussion in the CP-SAT suggests there is still an issue with customer flowdown, e.g. material hardness not specified. Action: Closed.

5.0 NEW BUSINESS

NIST SP 800-171 & DFARs 252.204/7012 Compliance: Jim Cummings raised the issue of these standards imposing requirements on cyber security and the need to flowdown requirements to suppliers. Many people in the room were not aware of these standards. This is just for notification to the Task Group, no CP-SAT action required.

Modified Scope: Does the Task Group need to change how modified scope audits work due to the frequent revising of checklists. This is just for notification to the Task Group, no CP-SAT action required.

6.0 DEVELOP AGENDA

These minutes will form the basis of the agenda for the next meeting.

Any requests for additional agenda items to be sent to Mike Noettl ([email protected]) and Nigel Cook ([email protected])

MEETING ADJOURNED.