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IEEE P802.11Wireless LANs

Minutes of the IEEE P802.11 Full Working Group

Date: 2013-09-16

Author(s):Name Company Address Phone email

Stephen McCann BlackBerry Ltd 200 Bath Road, Slough,

Berkshire, SL1 3XE, UK +44 1753 667099 [email protected]

Minutes page 1 Stephen McCann, BlackBerry

AbstractThis document constitutes the minutes of the IEEE 802.11 full working group for the

September 2013, Nanjing, China meeting.

Please note that all affiliations at this meeting are shown in Annex A.


IEEE 802.11 Interim Meeting – Session #141Zhongshan Hotel, Nanjing, China

September 16th – 20th, 2013

IEEE 802 Wireless Opening Plenary, Monday, 16th September 2013

Monday, 16 September 2013

10:31 802.11, 802.15, 802.18, 802.19, 802.21, 802.22, and 802.24 Chairs called the joint meeting to order. IEEE 802.15 attendance is included as Annex A. General announcements:

· No photography, no audio recording· Social – will be in ZiJing Hall· Straw Poll of new attendees: 6

10:43 IEEE patent policy

802.15 WG chair read the IEEE-SA instructions and displayed the four slides explaining patent policy and informed the attendees that additional information could be found on the PatCom web site.

802.15 WG chair read IEEE anti-trust policy.

10:47 Financial report by Jon Rosdahl (CSR Technologies Inc) docs 11-13-1063-00, 15-13-0526-00

Net Worth

May 1, 2013 - $569,314.79

· IEEE account: $385,728.64 +76.93+88.47 +82.47 = $385,976.51· Face-to-Face: $64,848.90 – 14,223.07+57150-25,537.56+101,100 = $183,338.28

June 30, 2013 – $386,061.74

· IEEE account: $385,976.51 + 85.23 = $386,061.74 · Face-to-Face: $183,338.28 + $71,400.00 - $61,737.97 = $193,000.31 (as of May 29)

Sept 1, 2013 – $409,424.40

· IEEE account: $386,061.74 +85.67-$21,515.00+88.07+83.64 = $364,804.12 · Face-to-Face: $193,000.31 -$1,982.86 - $39.00 = $44,620.25

Nanjing, China – Sept 2013

• Registration Income: $168,625

− Registrations 279 (+34 Students)

− Meeting Expense Estimate $173,692

− Estimated Loss ($ 5,067)



• Expense Estimates

− Electronic Facilities $ 7,700

− Networking & Shipping $62,300

− Special Services on site $22,655

− On site setup $ 7,000

− Staffing on site $ 18,100

− Disbursements $ 4,500

− Accounting and Legal $ 19,045

− Management $ 29,609

− Delegate Materials $ 2,783

• Estimated Sponsor Contribution: $116,000

− Meeting facilities $32,000

− AV $45,000

− Special Event (social) $39,000

10:52 Wireless and IMAT announcements by Rick Alfvin (15-13-027-04)

· Secure SSID: VeriLAN-secure (WPA2 PSK: ieeeieee)

10:57 Review future sessions

· November 10-15, 2013, Hyatt Regency Reunion, Dallas, TX, USA, 802 Plenary Session

· January 19-24, 2014, Hyatt Century Plaza, Los Angeles, CA, USA, 802 Wireless Interim Session*

· March 16-21, 2014, China World Hotel, Beijing PRC, 802 Plenary Session. (pending)

· May 11-16, 2014, Hilton Waikoloa Village, Big Island, HI, USA, 802 Wireless Interim Session*

· July 13-18, 2014, Grand Hyatt Manchester, San Diego, CA, USA, 802 Plenary Session.

· September 14-19, 2014, TBD (Hilton in Athens?), 802 Wireless Interim Session*

· November 2-7, 2014, Grand Hyatt San Antonio, San Antonio, TX, USA, 802 Plenary Session.

· January 19 - 25, 2015, Hyatt Regency, Atlanta, Georgia, USA, 802 Wireless Interim

11:02 Working Group Updates

· 802.11 by B Kraemer (Marvell): 334 voters, 36 potential voters

TGREVmc - Revision

TGac - VHT <6GHz – in Sponsor Ballot

TGaf- TVWS - in Letter Ballot



TGah- Sub 1GHz

TGai – Fast Initial Link Setup (FILS)

TGaj – China 45& 60 GHz bands (CMMW)

TGak – General Link, i.e. Bridging w/802.1(GLK)

TGaq – Pre-Association Discovery (PAD)

Standing Committee

WNG - WIRELESS NEXT GENERATION

ARCHITECTURE

JTC1

REGULATORY

Study Group

High efficiency Wireless LAN (HEW)

802.15 by B Heile (132 voters, 20 nearly voters)

TG4m: TVWS (in Sponsor, ~300 comments)

TG4n: CMB (draft development)

TG4p: RCC (in Sponsor, ~300 comments)

TG4q: ULP (Ultra Low Power amendment) - drafting TRD

TG8: PAC (Peer Aware Communications) requesting proposals

TG9: KMP (Key Management Protocol) draft development

TG10-L2R: Layer 2 Routing (just started)

SG-SRU - Spectrum Resource Utilization

SG-100G – 100 Gb/s THz

IG – 15.7 LED enhancements

IG - Dependability

802.18 by Michael Lynch

· 7 items concerning European regulatory matters

802.19 Filin

· TG1 TV whitespace coexistence finishing comment resolution

802.21 Subir Das (21-13-0161)

· TG21c – single radio handover – Sponsor ballot

· TG21d –group management – resolving WG ballot comments

· TG21m – revision project

· TG21.1 -



802.22 Pyo

· TGa MIBS· TGb Enhanced Broadband Services and Monitoring Applications· 802.22.1 rev – advanced beaconing

802.24 Gilb

· White Paper

11:23 Joint meeting adjourned



IEEE 802.11 Opening Plenary, Monday 16th September 2013

The chair Bruce Kraemer (Marvell) opened the meeting at 11:31 China Standard Time (CST). The other officers are:

1st Vice-chair (VC1): Jon Rosdahl CSR Technologies Inc2nd Vice-chair (VC2): Adrian Stephens IntelSecretary: Stephen McCann BlackBerry Ltd

There are 334 voting members of IEEE 802.11There were 153 people in the room.

1. Approve/modify joint opening agenda (11-13-0931r2)

1.1. Chair: I’ve re-arranged some of the meeting slots from the version posted 30 days ago.1.2. So are there any more modifications required at this moment?1.3. TGaq chair: I would like to request an extra slot on Tuesday PM1. 1.4. Chair: This is accepted, but is subject to room availability.1.5. JTC1 chair: I would like an extra JTC1 slot please on Wednesday PM2.1.6. Chair: Ok, but again this is subject to room availability. The agenda r3 will be uploaded shortly.1.7. No objection to the approval of the r3 agenda.

2. July 2013 Minutes

2.1. Review and approve joint minutes from the Geneva, July 2013 meeting.2.2. Any objection to approving the July 2013 minutes 11-13-0750r1 by unanimous consent2.3. Moved: Stephen McCann, 2nd: Jon Rosdahl2.4. Following neither discussion nor dissent these minutes were approved by unanimous consent.

3. Notices

3.1. No photographs at this meeting and please turn your mobiles to vibrate.3.2. Comment(C): Please can the secretary note that IEEE does not allow recording of any meetings.

4. Attendance

4.1. Welcome to the 3 new participants in this meeting.4.2. Chair: Please note that Stephen McCann (Secretary) will be holding a newcomer’s session at

13:30 this afternoon, presenting the document 11-13-0049r3.4.3. Chair: Please note that there is also a help desk outside in the foyer area and a networking desk.

5. Treasurers report (11-13-1063r0)

5.1. VC1: This is the current budget status, which is shared with IEEE 802.15.5.2. There will be an update on meeting attendance later in the week.



5.3. As this is a sponsored meeting, any surplus will be returned to the sponsor.

6. Call for essential Patents (11-13-1107r0)

6.1. VC1: read out the current PatCom rules and then called for essential patents information, as shown by:

6.2. http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt 6.3. There were no issues raised regarding the call for essential patents.6.4. Chair: There has been a request for LoAs from TGai, which I will address later.6.5. Comment (C): There are additional patents within TGai that have now been discovered.6.6. Chair: Please can you send me a private email identifying those patents.6.7. VC1: So, in summary, there were essential patents identified within TGai which the chair is now

pursuing. In addition, there is now a new request for additional LoAs.6.8. VC1: read out other policies and procedures for the meeting.6.9. Also please remember the documentation guidelines and please update all changes to those

documents presented.6.10. Please note our guidelines for all IEEE 802.11 documents including agendas and minutes.

7. Status of all groups (11-13-0932r0)

7.1. Open Positions (slide #8)7.1.1. There are three open positions for officers as shown in this slide.

7.2. Missing Officers (slide #9)7.2.1. There are a couple of missing people this week, as shown in grey on this slide.

8. Announcements (11-13-0933r0)

8.1. LoA database8.1.1. There are 32 entries for 2013 and some pending, as mentioned earlier.

8.2. Room Assignments8.2.1. No changes at this point.

8.3. IEEE 802 items8.3.1. Other IEEE 802 groups are meeting in other rooms and their agendas are on the mentor

document server.8.3.2. IEEE 802.16 is not meeting this week.

8.4. IEEE 802 Badges8.4.1. Please note the different colored badges for this meeting as shown in Slide #13.

8.5. November 2013 Plenary8.5.1. Please note that he early bird cut off for the November 2013 plenary registrations is on 4th

October 2013.8.6. IEEE-SA Staff

8.6.1. There is 1 person from IEEE-SA staff here this week Meng Zhao, so please welcome her.8.7. Wednesday Social

8.7.1. Please note this is on Wednesday evening in the ZiJing Hall (where lunch is served) and we are expecting up to 100 local guests.

8.8. Wednesday Mid-Week Plenary Topics (slide #25)8.8.1. There will be discussions about:


http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt


8.8.1.1. TGak proposal for “TAG stacking change” (11-13-1055r0)8.8.1.2. IEEE 1900.1 (DySpan)8.8.1.3. Exec Com November 2013 workshop agenda

8.9. IEEE 802.1 Architecture Document (slide #26)8.9.1. This will be discussed during the IEEE 802.11 ARC meeting this week.

8.10. November 2013 Plenary topics (slide #27)8.10.1. This is a list of potential topics for the November 2013 meeting. Note: Monday evening

will be a 40th Anniversary celebration for Ethernet, so tutorials will be moved to the Tuesday evening.

9. Voting status, attendance, meeting network & documentation (11-13- 0096r5)

9.1. VC2: This document provides all the information about attendance, documentation and other news about the group.

9.2. The latest ANA database is 11-11-270r17 and was updated in July 2013.9.3. Please use the IMAT system for attendance. If you have problems please send VC2 an email.9.4. There are 18 normal slots this week although there are extra evening and early morning slots.9.5. Please note that there is online calendar suitable for downloading to smart phone and tablets.9.6. If you wish to synchronize with the local document server, please do so, rather than using the

external bandwidth from the hotel meeting venue.

10. Publicity & timelines

10.1. Publicity10.1.1. None at the moment, but press releases for TGac and TGaf will be considered between

this meeting and the November 2013 meeting.10.2. Timelines

10.2.1. No recent changes, but please can all chairs send the secretary any required updates prior to this weekend.

11. Group Summaries (11-13-0932r0)

11.1. Editor’s meeting11.1.1. Tomorrow morning at 7.00am in room 311, including the ANA status, style guides and

numbering situation.11.2. Extra notes for the following groups were made:11.3. WNG

11.3.1. 1 presentation is currently scheduled for Thursday morning AM2.

12. Recent Ballots (11-13-0932r0 slide #32)

12.1. Chair: There have been a few recently as shown on the slide.

13. Any Other Business



13.1. Chair: TGaq can meet on Tuesday AM2 in room 201 and JTC1 Wednesday AM1 in room 308.

13.2. Chair: Is this change to the schedule acceptable to everyone?13.3. No objections to the changes.13.4. VC1: The lunch time has now been extended from 11:45 to 14:00.13.5. VC1: There will be an r1 of the expense report, as someone noticed a typo. Thank you for

noticing this error.

14. Recess

14.1. Meeting recessed at 12:33 CST.



Wednesday, 18th September 2013

IEEE 802.11 Mid Week Plenary

Presiding chair: Bruce Kraemer (Marvell) opened the meeting at 10:30 CST.150 people present.

15. Approve/modify joint opening agenda (11-13-0931r4)

15.1. Chair: Are there any proposed changes?15.2. Any objection to approving this agenda?15.3. No objection, so moved and approved.

16. Call for Essential Patents

16.1. The call for essential patents from Monday still applies16.2. Chair: On Monday, I did indicate that some LoAs need to be sent out. I am in the process

of doing this at the moment.16.3. No statements

17. CAC

17.1. Reminder about the 19.30 CST meeting on Thursday.

18. Social (ZiJing Hall)

18.1. Please note that the room for the social this evening is open at 5.30pm. This is the same room as breakfast and lunch. There will be up to 100 locals and officials from Nanjing.

18.2. Q: I see the social is on the attendance server.18.3. VC2: It’s there to remind you where the location is. However, it has zero credit.

19. Liaisons

19.1. IEEE 802.19: Co-existence (11-13-1195r0)19.1.1. Various issues arising from the IEEE 802.19 meetings this week.19.1.2. Q: Any idea of attendance in this group this week?19.1.3. Chair: The registration said 6, but I’m not sure of actual numbers.

19.2. Bluetooth SIG19.2.1. Chair: there is still no official liaison for this group.

19.3. Wi-Fi alliance (WFA)



19.3.1. Last meeting was in June 2013 in Seattle, so I have already reported progress in the Geneva July 2013.

19.3.2. Of main interest, there is a new temporary group that has been created within WFA to consider the HEW SG liaison.

19.3.3. There are about 24 projects, covering aspects of 11v, 11ac, 11ad and other 802.11 amendments

19.3.4. The next WFA meeting is in Brussels in October 2013.19.3.5. No questions

19.4. IETF (11-13-1161r0)19.4.1. Q: regarding slide #14, do you have any feeling for when this will occur.19.4.2. A: Possibly in November 2013.19.4.3. Q: There are some activities regarding IPv6.19.4.4. A: Yes, there are some listed on slide #3. If anyone wishes to submit IEEE 802.11 input,

then please contact the IETF liaison or the IEEE 802.11 chair.

19.5. 3GPP (11-13-1060r1)19.5.1. Q: I think your version number is incorrect, based on the version on the server19.5.2. A: yes, I believe you are correct. I apologize and I’ll create a revised version.19.5.3. Chair: Are there any specific action items for IEEE 802.11 at the moment.19.5.4. A: No, none that I know of.

19.6. IEEE 802.2419.6.1. Chair: this is a request for a liaison to this group. This person needs to attend the IEEE

802.24 meeting and then report back.

19.7. IEEE 802 OmniRan (11-13-1196r0)19.7.1. Chair: are the PAR and 5C in a suitable state for consideration by IEEE 802.11?19.7.2. A: I would wait until the end of October first.19.7.3. Chair: did the OmniRAN teleconference go ok?19.7.4. A: Yes.

20. TGak update (11-13-1055r1)

20.1.1. C: I would just like to state that Norman Finn who is not here this week is in favor of this presentation.

20.1.2. This issue will be considered in more detail during TGak on Thursday on AM1 and there is more background material in 11-13-0952r2. Please come along if you are interested.

20.1.3. C: TGak and 802.1Qbz are working on some complicated issues and I would like to encourage everyone to seriously consider this SNAP/LLC encoding format. If you do not, then there is a possibility that TGak will break your implementation.

21. IEEE 1900.1 invitation (11-13-0933r2 slide #33)

21.1.1. Chair: This is an invitation from the IEEE 1900.1 chair to invite people to participate in this group on dynamic spectrum allocation techniques. I have sent out an email on this topic already, but I just wanted to mention it here.



21.1.2. The deadline is September 30th.21.1.3. No questions

22. Nanjing venue selection

22.1.1. Chair: We have received some complaints on this venue. The venues are selected several years in advance. At the moment, we rely on Jon Rosdahl and Bob Heile to help with this.

22.1.2. We do prefer to choose new venues where industrial and education value can be obtained from local institutions. This has been the case for Nanjing.

22.1.3. However, problem issues include:22.1.3.1. An extra hop from international airports22.1.3.2. Rooms not having WLAN

22.1.4. Chair: Also remember that we do have a host for this meeting and without that, the registration fee would have been $400 more expensive.

22.1.5. C: I see a trend that some of the venues don’t have much to do outside of the immediate hotel/conference area. The selection process doesn’t seem very transparent to the members.

22.1.6. C: I’m very disappointed that there is very little vegetarian options in the local dining areas. I also agree that going out to the nearby area is quite difficult

22.1.7. C: I would like to consider future meetings in countries with new growth, such as Indonesia, India etc.

22.1.8. C: I think it’s this particular facility that is slightly poor, as Nanjing itself is a great city.22.1.9. C: On the other hand, I’m quite happy about this venue.

23. Room change requests (11-13-0933r2 slide #36)

23.1. There are some changes on the room schedule.23.2. TGah: Please can we have an extra slot on either Thursday AM1 or PM123.3. TGaf: This group can now release the Thursday PM1 slot23.4. VC1: So, if TGah can accept Thursday PM1 that is quite easy to arrange.23.5. TGah: Yes, ok.23.6. Chair: Ok, so I’ve arranged a new graphic for these changes23.7. Chair: Is there any objection to approving these changes?23.8. None seen.

24. Officer Changes

24.1. Chair: There are no changes at this point.

25. ANA changes

25.1. VC2: There are none so far.

26. November 802 EC Workshop (11-13-0096r6 slide #14)



26.1. VC2: This is a chance for the IEEE 802 executive meeting to discuss various issues they don’t have time to consider during the normal IEEE 802 plenary weeks. It will be on the Saturday following the November (Dallas) meeting.

26.2. Slide #15 shows the list of topics.26.3. Chair: in this particular case, Adrian Stephens is the chair for this workshop.26.4. No questions

27. Any Other Business

27.1. None seen

28. Recess

28.1. Meeting recessed at 11:53 CST.



Friday, 20th September 2013

IEEE 802.11 Closing Plenary

Call to order at 08:02 CST by Bruce Kraemer (Marvell)

60 people present in the room.

29. Agenda (11-13-0931r6)

29.1. Chair: There have been some changes due to the addition of motions etc. based on last night’s CAC meeting.

29.2. We should finish around 10:00.29.3. Any objection to adopting the changes to the agenda.29.4. None seen

30. Call for Essential Patents

30.1. Call for Essential Patents and Letters of Assurance (LoA)30.2. No questions

31. Announcements (11-13-0933r3)

31.1. Chair’s minutes, reports and web pages31.1.1. Please can you send these to the secretary31.1.2. Please be aware of the Chair’s schedule for the chair’s committee meetings (CAC)

31.2. Letters of Assurance (LoA)31.2.1. Chair: please remember about the LoA requirements. There are currently 32 entries for

2013 and about 8 LoA requests which are currently pending.

31.3. IEEE Store (slide #42)31.3.1. Chair: This shows the current situation of the IEEE Store and amendments assuming that

the most recent drafts will pass their letter ballots.31.3.2. Chair: There are some price changes since I presented this during the Geneva (July 2013)

meeting.

31.4. ISO SC6 (slide #43)31.4.1. Chair: These are the current drafts with ISO SC6.

31.5. Tutorials31.5.1. Chair: there will be at least 1 tutorial at the November 2013 plenary on the Tuesday

evening.

31.6. Ad hoc Venue Advisory Committee (slide #44)



31.6.1. Chair: The IEEE 802.11 officers have suggested that we form an ad-hoc group to assist with meeting preparation, once a venue has been selected.

31.6.2. Chair: So, are there any volunteers to help at the next meeting (November 2013) in Dallas?

31.6.3. There were 2 volunteers.31.6.4. C: An extra mailing list for this would also be useful.31.6.5. Chair: Or perhaps a blog31.6.6. C: Or a Wiki31.6.7. Q: Is there any official process that can be followed to actually select a venue?31.6.8. Chair: we’ll discuss that a little later in this meeting.

32. Meeting Location

32.1. Chair: Can I have a show of hand to see who is in favor of returning to the Nanjing area?32.2. For: 20, Against: 1332.3. Chair: Can I have a show of hand to see who is in favor of returning to this hotel?32.4. For: 0, Against: 3432.5. Chair: I would also like to thank the sponsor for hosting us within this venue.

33. Documentation & Attendance (11-13-0960r0)

33.1. VC2: There was a maximum attendance within HEW SG, followed by TGai and TGah. Thank you to everyone who attended.

33.2. Q: Does this slide #5, also show the reciprocal attendance from IEEE 802.18 etc.33.3. A: I’m not actually sure, as it’s the system which does the cross-credit checks.33.4. Documentation has been fine this week.

34. WG Reports

34.1. Publicity34.1.1. No report this week.

34.2. Timelines34.2.1. Secretary: please note the update for TGaf, TGaq and TGai, although the web page is not

correct just at this moment: http://www.ieee802.org/11/Reports/802.11_Timelines.htm.34.2.2. It will be further updated over this weekend.34.2.3. No questions

35. WG Committee Reports (11-13-0933r3)

35.1. Please note the updates for the TGak editor and the TGaq secretary.35.2. Chair: I would like to thank these new volunteers.35.3. No questions

36. WG Committee Reports (11-13-0960r0)


http://www.ieee802.org/11/Reports/802.11_Timelines.htm


36.1. Technical editor (slide #9)36.1.1. The new editor for TGak will be added to the list of editors.36.1.2. Q: How does the style guide get updated please?36.1.3. VC2: I’m not sure about the IEEE-SA guide, but we could try and contact Michelle

Turner (IEEE-SA Manager of Editorial Process)36.1.4. VC2: Regarding the IEEE 802.11 one, please relay questions to myself (VC2) as

technical editor.36.1.5. Chair: This reminds me that the IEEE-SA staffs are undergoing a re-organization at the

moment and there should be new assignments in November 2013.

36.2. WNG Standing Committee (slide #37)36.2.1. One presentation this week as shown.36.2.2. No questions

36.3. ARC Standing Committee (slide #38)36.3.1. Chair: In the review of IEEE 802.1AC, do we want to formalize this within IEEE 802.11,

e.g. use ePoll?36.3.2. A: within the group, the feeling was to respond to this informally.

36.4. JTC1 Standing Committee (slide #43)36.4.1. Q: How concerned are you about the security aspects?36.4.2. A: The WAPI situation provides a hint for what may happen here. ISO standards can be

used in ways that IEEE 802.11 may not like. It’s not useful for new ISO standards to potentially affect the IEEE 802.11 standard going forward.

36.4.3. Chair: In addition, even defining terms between different countries and standardization groups is very difficult.

36.5. Regulatory (REG) Standing Committee (slide #51)36.5.1. No questions

36.6. TGmc (slide #59)36.6.1. Intend to go out for a re-circulation letter ballot around 4th October.36.6.2. No questions

36.7. TGac (slide #65)36.7.1. No questions

36.8. TGaf (slide #70)36.8.1. Chair: since TGac is going to request conditional approval in November 2013, I see that

you are going to the same thing, but you appear to also asking for extra sponsor re-circulation ballots in November.

36.8.2. A: We were only planning to re-circulate up to the November meeting itself.36.8.3. Chair: Ok, but we need to be careful about the sequence. I think we have some more

work to do.

36.9. TGah (slide #77)36.9.1. Intend to go out for an initial letter ballot following this meeting.



36.9.2. No questions

36.10. TGai (slide #83)36.10.1. No questions

36.11. TGaj (slide #93)36.11.1. Chair: What is the availability of the 45 GHz band, as it has not been cleared yet?36.11.2. TGaj chair: I hope that by November 2013, there will be a public presentation

ready regarding the 43.5 – 47 GHz band in China.

36.12. TGak (slide #100)36.12.1. Chair: regarding tag stacking, how do we close on that?36.12.2. A: That’s frame payload encoding. There are two options for this at the moment

described in different documents.

36.13. TGaq (slide #104)36.13.1. In addition to this presentation, there is a plan to have a short TGaq summary or

tutorial during the Wednesday midweek plenary in November.36.13.2. Also please note that Daylight Saving Time will finish on 3rd November this year,

as this effects the teleconference schedules.36.13.3. No questions

36.14. HEW SG (slide #109)36.14.1. No questions

37. Liaison Reports

37.1. IEEE 802.15 (11-13-1238r0)37.1.1. VC2: The Better Use of Spectrum group, is covering which bands?37.1.2. A: I don’t know at this time?37.1.3. Chair: Is there any subject that IEEE 802.11 would be interested in?37.1.4. VC2: Yes, please; this Better Use of Spectrum group would be interesting.37.1.5. A: ok.

37.2. IEEE 802.21 (11-13-1237r0)37.2.1. No questions

37.3. IEEE 802.1837.3.1. Although they did meet this week, they only discussed plans for the November 2013

meeting. They did discuss asking Paul Nickolich (IEEE 802 chair) to set up regular meetings with the ITU.

37.3.2. Q: Actually I think the question was for Paul Nickolich to set up regular meetings (e.g. every month) with the FCC, to have an IEEE 802 presence.

37.3.3. Chair: I think that’s only an informal suggestion at this point in time.

37.4. IEEE 802.24 (11-13-0960r0 slide #114)37.4.1. No questions



38. Coffee Break

38.1. Chair: Is there any objection to continuing on at this point and taking coffee once this meeting has completed?

38.2. None seen.

39. Working Group Motions (Old Business) (11-13-0959r0)

39.1. Teleconferences (slide #4)39.1.1. Move to approve the following teleconferences

Group Dates Start Time Duration TGmc Fridays, October 11, November 1, 8 10:00 ET 2 hours

TGai Tuesdays, October 1 to November 5, excluding October 22

10:00 ET 1 Hour

TGah Thursday November 7 10:00 ET 2 Hours

TGac Oct 17, Oct. 31, Nov 14 Oct 7, Oct 10, Oct. 24, Nov 7, Nov 21

10:00 ET20:00 ET

2 hours2 hours

TGaf Tuesdays to November 30 21:00 ET 2 hours

TGak Monday October 14 and 28 17:00 ET 1 hour

TGaq Tuesday October 29 10:00 ET 1 hour

TGaj October 17 20:00 ET 1 hour

REG SC Thursdays to November 30DSRC Tiger Team: Fridays to November 30

12:30 ET13:00 ET

1.5 hours1 hour

HEW SG Oct. 9, Oct. 30Oct. 17

10:00 ET00:01 ET

2 hours2 hours

Publicity SC,ARC SC

Telecon(s) to be announced on 10-days notice as required

39.1.2. Moved Adrian Stephens, 2nd Jon Rosdahl39.1.3. No objection to approving by unanimous consent.

39.2. TGmc letter ballot (slide #6)



39.2.1. Having approved comment resolutions for all of the comments received from LB193 on P802.11mc D1.0. Instruct the editor to prepare P802.11mc D2.0 incorporating these resolutions and Approve a 20 day Working Group Recirculation Ballot asking the question “Should P802.11mc D2.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?”

39.2.2. [TG result: Moved: Adrian Stephens, Seconded: Jon Rosdahl, Result: 11-0-1 Passes]39.2.3. Moved on behalf of the TG: Dorothy Stanley 39.2.4. For: 40, Against: 0, Abstain: 0 (Motion passes 100%)39.2.5. TGmc Chair: Thank you. This ballot should open around October 4th.

39.3. TGah letter ballot (slide #8)39.3.1. Having approved changes to P802.11ah Draft 0.2, as defined in the following

documents, 11-13-1181-01-00ah-PHYMotions2013-09-18.xlsx 11-13-1194-01-00ah-comment-collection-9-mac-motion-9-10.xlsx 11-13-0898-01-00ah-ack-policy-for-short-mac-header.docx 11-13-1207-01-00ah-partial-aid-color-bits.pptx 11-13-1227-00-00ah-phy-motions-2013-09-19.xlsx 11-13-1072-02-00ah-comments-and-resolutions-obss-max-idle-period.doc 11-13-1228-00-00ah-comment-collection-9-mac-motion-11.xlsx 11-13-1088-02-00ah-coexistance-assurance.doc 11-13-1234-00-00ah-comment-collection-9-mac-motion-12.xlsx

Instruct the editor to prepare P802.11ah Draft 1.0, and Approve a 30 day Working Group Technical Letter Ballot asking the question “Should P802.11ah Draft 1.0 be forwarded to Sponsor Ballot?”

39.3.2. [TGah vote: Moved: Zander Lei, Seconded: Ron Murias, Result: 27-0-0]39.3.3. Moved by David Halasz on behalf of TGah39.3.4. For: 39, Against: 0, Abstain: 0 (Motion passes 100%)

40. Working Group Motions (New Business)

40.1. No motions

41. Future Venues (11-13-0933r3 slide #46)

41.1. Chair: Please note that there is another event in the Dallas hotel, the week after we are meeting there in November. Hence, please book your hotel room as soon as possible.

41.2. VC1: I would suggest that this very urgent, if you wish to stay the Friday or Saturday night.

41.3. Q: Do we need to pre-pay the room in advance?41.4. VC1: No, it’s just a reservation at this point.41.5. Chair: The early bird deadline is October 4th for the meeting itself.41.6. Moving to slide #47, this shows future events for next year. The January 2014 location

for the next China Interim has now been clarified as being Sanya, China. This is a resort location on the southern tip of China.

41.7. Slide #49 shows the venues for 2015.41.8. VC1: There is an IEEE 802 EC Doc (802 EC-12/40r3) which tracks the current state of

future Plenary venues and the contracts for the venues. Note that July 2015 will be at the Hilton



Waikoloa Hawaii. Separately for the Interims, there is a bid being prepared for May 2015 from the Hyatt Regency in Vancouver, Canada.

41.9. Chair: I see that March 2015 is “Singapore (TBD)”.41.10. VC1: IEEE 802 has some money left over from the Singapore Plenary, and it is still in

Singapore. We had a chance to have a repeat meeting in Singapore, but the contract was not signed, and now the rates have now changed up to $380 - $400 a night, as it’s now a very popular location. The sponsorship is also questionable. Therefore we are working to change the Plenary location from Singapore to Macau. The negotiations should be complete by November Plenary, but I will keep the 802 membership informed.

41.11. Chair: We may also choose to go to Kobe, Japan in September 2015.41.12. Q: Although this is typhoon season in Japan.41.13. Q: When we pick venues, we should have a positive experience. This does not mean a

pleasant vacation experience, but just somewhere where we can do business professionally.41.14. VC2: I was asked earlier about the lack of transparency regarding these decisions. Is

there an opportunity for members to see what is going on?41.15. Chair: The IEEE 802 wireless chairs meeting on a Sunday afternoon at 4pm. These

meetings are open for everyone to attend. All the information is then relayed to the IEEE 802 wireless working groups.

41.16. VC2: I was also asked about whether minutes are available for this meeting.41.17. Chair: no, there are no minutes, as it’s just an informal discussion forum.

42. November 2013 Meeting

42.1. This meeting will be in Dallas, TX, November 10-15, 2013

43. AoB

43.1. Chair: please note that the Verilan people will start to tear down the network very soon.

44. Adjournment

44.1. Chair: I propose to adjourn44.2. The meeting is adjourned without objection at 10:12 CST.



Annex A: Attendance & Affiliation

Name Affiliation Attended >= 75%?

Aboulmagd, Osama Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesAldana, Carlos Qualcomm Incorporated YesAriyavisitakul, Sirikiat Lek Broadcom Corporation YesArmstrong, Lee US Department of Transportation YesAsai, Yusuke NTT YesAsterjadhi, Alfred Qualcomm Incorporated YesAu, Kwok Shum Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesAuluck, Vijay Intel Corporation YesAzizi, Shahrnaz Intel Corporation YesBaik, Eugene Qualcomm Incorporated YesBarber, Phillip Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd NoBI, Shenyi MediaTek Inc. YesBlue, Scott Microsoft Corporation YesCai, Lin Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesCalcev, George Huawei R&D USA Yescao, fengming Toshiba of Europe Ltd. YesCariou, Laurent France Telecom YesCarney, William Sony Corporation YesChang, JerryCK MediaTek Inc. YesChang, Kim Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd NoCHANG, SANGHYUN Samsung Electronics YesChaplin, Clint Samsung Information Systems America, Inc. YesChen, Jiamin Huawei/HiSilicon YesCheong, Minho Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)No

CHERIAN, GEORGE Qualcomm Incorporated YesCho, Hangyu LG ELECTRONICS YesChoi, Jee-Yon Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)Yes

Choi, Jinsoo LG ELECTRONICS YesChoo, Li Chia Institute for Infocomm Research YesChoudhury, Sayantan Nokia YesChu, Liwen STMicroelectronics Yes




CHUN, JINYOUNG LG ELECTRONICS YesCoffey, John Realtek Semiconductor Corp. YesCordeiro, Carlos Intel Corporation Yesde Vegt, Rolf Qualcomm Incorporated YesDong, Xiandong Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesDurand, Roger Research In Motion Limited YesEastlake 3rd, Donald Huawei R&D USA YesEcclesine, Peter Cisco Systems, Inc. YesEggert, Dietmar Atmel Corporation NoEmmelmann, Marc Self Employed YesFang, Ping Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesFang, Yonggang ZTE Corporation YesFilin, Stanislav National Institute of Information and Communications

Technology (NICT)No

Fischer, Matthew Broadcom Corporation YesGao, Bo Tsinghua University NoGhosh, Chittabrata Nokia YesGilb, James Tensorcom, Inc. YesGillmore, Matthew Itron Inc. YesGoodall, David Broadcom Corporation YesGuanglong, Du Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications

(BUPT)No

Halasz, David Qualcomm YesHamilton, Mark SpectraLink, Corp. YesHan, Zhiqiang ZTE Corporation YesHao, Peng Jiangsu university of science and technology NoHarkins, Dan Aruba Networks, Inc. YesHart, Brian Cisco Systems, Inc. YesHedayat, Ahmadreza Cisco Systems, Inc. YesHeide, Carolyn Ruckus Wireless YesHsieh, Jing-Rong HTC Corporation YesHsu, Bread MediaTek Inc. YesHsu, Jen-Yuan ITRI YesHu, Chunyu Broadcom Corporation YesHuang, Chiao-chi MediaTek Inc. Yes




Hunter, David WireFi Networks Inc. YesInoue, Yasuhiko Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation (NTT) Yesjafarian, amin Qualcomm Incorporated YesJeong, Yangseok KT Corp. NoJosiam, Kaushik SAMSUNG NoKakani, Naveen CSR plc. YesKang, Hyunduk Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)Yes

Kennedy, Richard Research In Motion Limited YesKim, Hongsoog Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)Yes

Kim, Jaehwan Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute (ETRI)

Yes

Kim, Jeongki LG ELECTRONICS YesKim, Joo Young KT Corp. YesKim, Joonsuk Apple, Inc. YesKim, Sang Gook LG ELECTRONICS YesKim, Suhwook LG ELECTRONICS YesKishida, Akira Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation (NTT) YesKitazawa, Shoichi ATR Wave Engineering Laboratories NoKNECKT, JARKKO Nokia YesKo, Gwangzeen Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)No

Kraemer, Bruce Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. YesKumar, G Rajendra Ittiam Systems YesKwak, Byung-Jae Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)No

Kwon, Hyoungjin Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute (ETRI)

Yes

Kwon, Young Hoon Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesLambert, Paul Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. NoLan, Zhou National Institute of Information and Communications

Technology (NICT)No

Le Rouzic, Jean-Pierre France Telecom YesLee, Hyeong Ho Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)No

LEE, Ilgu Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute Yes




(ETRI)Lee, Jae Seung Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)Yes

Lee, Jehun Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute (ETRI)

Yes

Lee, Wookbong LG ELECTRONICS YesLee, Yuro Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)Yes

Lei, Zhongding Institute for Infocomm Research (I2R) YesLevy, Joseph InterDigital Communications, Inc. YesLi, Bo Northwestern poly technical university NoLi, Dejian Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesLi, Feng China Academy of Telecommunication

Technology(CATT)Yes

Li, Guoqing Intel Corporation YesLI, HONGGANG Intel Corporation YesLi, Huan-Bang National Institute of Information and Communications

Technology (NICT)No

Li, Jing Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesLi, Liang Vinno Technologies Inc. NoLi, Nan ZTE Corporation YesLi, Yunbo Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesLI, YUNZHOU Tsinghua University YesLim, Dong Guk LG ELECTRONICS YesLin, Chih-Che Industrial Technology Research Institute (ITRI) YesLin, Paul Ralink Technology, Corp. YesLin, Wang ZTE Corporation NoLin, Yingpei Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesLiru, Lu National Institute of Information and Communications

Technology (NICT)Yes

Liu, Dapeng China Mobile Limited NoLiu, Der-Zheng Realtek Semiconductor Corp. YesLiu, Jianhan MediaTek Inc. YesLiu, Pei HiSilicon Technologies Co., LTD. YesLiu, Shenfa nufront NoLiu, Yong Apple, Inc. Yes




Liu, Yongjun Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesLoc, Peter Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesLu, Su Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesLuo, Yi Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesLv, Kaiying ZTE Corporation YesMano, Hiroshi Allied Telesis R&D Center K.K. YesMarin, James Nokia Siemens Networks YesMcCann, Stephen BlackBerry Ltd YesMerlin, Simone Qualcomm Incorporated YesMestanov, Filip Ericsson AB YesMisawa, Yasunao KDDI YesMontemurro, Michael Research In Motion Limited YesMori, Kenichi Panasonic Corporation NoMorioka, Hitoshi Allied Telesis R&D Center YesMurias, Ronald InterDigital, Inc. YesMyles, Andrew Cisco Systems, Inc. YesNandagopalan, SAI SHANKAR

Adeptence Inc. Yes

Ngo, Chiu Samsung NoOgawa, Hiroyo Association of Radio Industries and Businesses (ARIB) NoOh, Jong-Ee Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)Yes

OH, MIN-SEOK LG ELECTRONICS YesOlesen, Robert InterDigital, Inc. YesPandey, Santosh Ghanshyam

Cisco Systems, Inc. Yes

Park, Giwon LG ELECTRONICS YesPark, Hyunho Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)No

Park, Jaewoo Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute (ETRI)

Yes

Park, Minyoung Intel Corporation YesPark, Seung-Hoon Samsung Electronics YesPeng, Xiaoming Institute for Infocomm Research NoPerahia, Eldad Intel Corporation YesPerkins, Charles Futurewei No




Png, Khiam Boon Institute for Infocomm Research Yesporat, ron Broadcom Corporation YesPyo, Chang-Woo National Institute of Information and Communications

Technology (NICT)Yes

Rabarijaona, Verotiana National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT)

Yes

Rakanovic, Demir u-blox YesRao, Yong National Instruments Corporation YesRong, Zhigang Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesRosdahl, Jon CSR plc. YesRoy, Richard SRA YesRyu, Cheol Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)No

Ryu, Kiseon LG ELECTRONICS YesSadeghi, Bahareh Intel Corporation YesSampath, Hemanth Qualcomm Incorporated YesSchelstraete, Sigurd Quantenna Communications, Inc. YesSeok, Yongho LG Electronics NoShao, Huairong Samsung Information Systems America, Inc. YesSHIBAGAKI, Nobuhiko Hitachi, Ltd. NoShimada, Shusaku Schubiquist Technologies Guild YesShimomura, Tsuyoshi FUJITSU NoShin, Wooram Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute

(ETRI)Yes

Smith, Graham DSP Group YesStacey, Robert Intel Corporation YesStanley, Dorothy Aruba Networks, Inc. YesStephens, Adrian Intel Corporation YesSuh, JUNG HOON Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesSun, Bo ZTE Corporation YesSun, Chen Sony Nosun, sheng Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesTakatori, Yasushi Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation (NTT) YesTaori, Rakesh SAMSUNG YesTian, Bin Qualcomm Incorporated Yes




Tong, Fei SAMSUNG YesTsai, Chia-Lung Industrial Technology Research Institute (ITRI) NoVan Zelst, Allert Qualcomm Incorporated YesVarshney, Prabodh Nokia YesVenkatesan, Ganesh Intel Corporation YesVermani, Sameer Qualcomm Incorporated YesVillardi, Gabriel National Institute of Information and Communications

Technology (NICT)No

Wang, Chao Chun MediaTek Inc. YesWang, Haiming Southeast University, China NoWang, James June MediaTek Inc. YesWang, Lei InterDigital Communications, LLC YesWard, Lisa Rohde & Schwarz YesWatanabe, Fujio NTT DoCoMo, Inc. YesWen, Ericson TriQuint Semiconductor NoWentink, Menzo Qualcomm Incorporated YesWilhelmsson, Leif Ericsson AB YesWON, EUN TAE SAMSUNG YesWu, Tianyu Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesXing, Weimin ZTE Corporation YesXu, Mingguang Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. YesXu, Ping SEU YesYamada, Akira NTT DoCoMo, Inc. NoYang, Meng China Academy of Telecommunication Research (CATR) YesYang, Rongzhen Intel Corporation YesYang, Xun Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesYang, Xun Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesYang, Yunsong Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesYang, Zeng Harman International YesYaoxian, Fu SIMIT NoYe, Fan Fudan University YesYee, James MediaTek Inc. YesYee, Peter NSA/IAD YesYin, Hujun Intel Corporation YesYong, Su Khiong Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yes




Yu, Chang Wahn Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute (ETRI)

Yes

Yu, Chinghwa MediaTek Inc. YesYu, Mao Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. YesYunoki, Katsuo KDDI R&D Laboratories YesZhang, Hongyuan Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. YesZHANG, JIAYIN Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesZhao, Mu Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd NoZheng, Jun Broadcom Corporation YesZHENG, SHOUKANG Institute for Infocomm Research (I2R) YesZhou, Mingtuo National Institute of Information and Communications

Technology (NICT)No

zhou, yuan Institute for Infocomm Research YesZhu, Hufei Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesZhuang, Yan Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd YesZhuo, Lan CESI Group YesZou, Weixia BUPT No

Annex B : Working Group Officers

Working group

Name (Affiliation)

Position Contact Details

Bruce Kraemer(Marvell Semiconductor, Inc.)

IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair

5488 Marvell Lane, Santa Clara, CA 95054, USAPhone: +1 (321) 427-4098Fax: +1 (321) [email protected]

Jon Rosdahl(CSR Technologies Inc)

1st Vice Chair (Policies and Procedures)Treasurer

+1 (801) [email protected]

Adrian Stephens(Intel Corporation)

2nd Vice Chair(Attendance, Ballots, Documentation and Voting)Co-Technical Editor802.11 Assigned Numbers Authority

Phone: +44 1954 204 [email protected]


mailto:[email protected]




Stephen McCann(BlackBerry Ltd.)

SecretaryPublicity ad-hoc Chair

+44 1753 [email protected]

Peter Ecclesine(Cisco Systems, Inc.)

Co-Technical Editor +1 (408) [email protected]

Standing Committees

Name (Affiliation)


Clint Chaplin(Samsung Electronics)

Wireless Next Generation (WNG) Chair

+1 (408) 768-0827 [email protected]

Mark Hamilton(Polycom)

Architecture (ARC) Chair


Andrew Myles(Cisco Systems, Inc.)

ISO/IEC/JTC1/SC6 shadow committee (JTC1) Chair


Rich Kennedy(Research in Motion)

Regulatory Chair +1 (972) [email protected]

Task Groups

Name (Affiliation)


Osama Aboul-Magd(Huawei)

TGac Chair(Very High Throughput < 6 GHz)



TGaf Chair(TV White Spaces)


David Halasz(Self)

TGah Chair(Sub 1 GHz Operation)

+1 [email protected]

Hiroshi Mano(Allied Telesis R&D center K.K.)

TGai Chair(Fast Initial Link Setup)

[email protected]

Xiaoming Peng(Institute for Infocomm Research)

TGaj Chair(China Millimeter Wave)

[email protected]

Donald Eastlake, 3rd(Huawei Technologies)

TGak Chair(General Link)

+1 [email protected]

















TGaq Chair(Pre-Association Discovery)


Study Groups

Name (Affiliation)


Osama Aboul-Magd(Huawei)

HEW SG Chair(High Efficiency WLAN)


Liaisons

Name (Affiliation)



Liaison to 3GPP(3rd Generation Partnership Project)


Clint Chaplin(Samsung Electronics)

Liaison to IEEE 802.15 and IEEE 802.21

+1 (408) 768-0827 [email protected]


Liaison to IEEE 802.18 +1 (972) [email protected]

Eldad Perahia(Intel Corporation)

Liaison to IEEE 802.19 +1 (503) [email protected]

Mike Montemurro (Research in Motion)

Liaison to IEEE 802 OmniRAN Study Group


Dorothy V. Stanley(Aruba Networks)

Liaison to IETF(Internet Engineering Task Force)

+1( 630) 363-1389 [email protected]

Ian Sherlock(Texas Instruments Inc.)

Liaison to WFA(Wi-Fi Alliance)

[email protected]














Annex C : Minutes

This Annex contains references to all IEEE 802.11 SC/TG/SG & Ad Hoc Committee (AHC) minutes from this meeting. Please note that they are NOT subject to the approval of these minutes, but are confirmed and approved by their individual group in the opening meeting at their next session.

WG TE 13-1011r0TGMC TG 13-1066r0TGAC TG 13-1240r0TGAF TG 13-1211r0TGAH TG 13-1xxxr0TGAI TG 13-1244r1TGAJ TG 13-1209r0TGAK TG 13-1235r0TGAQ TG 13-1247r0HEW SG 13-1117r1WNG SC 13-1225r0ARC SC 13-1249r0REG SC 13-1xxxr0JTC1 SC 13-1279r0

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