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PRESENTATION TO THE BAY VILLAGE SCHOOL BOARD ON STUDENT
FEES
2010 – 2011 Citizens Advisory Committee to the Bay Village School
District
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Committee Members Bob Piccirilli – Chairman Clint Keener – Bay Schools Superintendent Mike Boeckman – Bay Village School Board Steve Lee – Secretary Christine Baumgartner Mike Gesing Mary Sue Hongosh Gene Marquardt Bob McFeeley Julie Morriss Mayme Pathoff Ted Sielski Loretta Tindall
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Project Goals
To make an assessment of the fees that are charged to students by neighboring school districts and school districts similar to Bay around Ohio.
To complete a survey of parents of Bay Village high school students with respect to student fees.
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Fee Categories High school class fees (does not include AP
test fees or IB classes) High school activity fees (not to include
sports) High school pay to participate fees
(athletics) Kindergarten, grades 1 – 8 class fees Middle school activity fees Middle school pay to participate fees
(athletics)
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School District Selection Criteria
Neighboring school districts – Rocky River, Westlake, Avon, Avon Lake, Fairview Park, North Olmsted, Olmsted Falls, Lakewood
School districts with similar demographics to Bay – Bexley, Brecksville, Canfield, Chagrin Falls, Chardon, Granville, Hudson, Kenston, Madiera City, New Albany, Perrysburg, Revere, Upper Arlington, West Geauga, Westerville
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IRN School District LTEI FY ‘1049171 Aurora 0.7848116 Avon 0.5948124 Avon Lake 0.6843547 Bay Village 0.7843620 Bexley 0.7943646 Brecksville 0.7548314 Canfield 0.6645286 Chagrin Falls 0.6147183 Chardon 0.9843976 Fairview Park 1.2345393 Granville 0.5750021 Hudson 0.5347191 Kenston 0.7344198 Lakewood 1.0744289 Madeira City 0.8346995 New Albany 0.6144529 North Olmsted 1.2746573 Olmsted Falls 0.8945583 Perrysburg 0.6250054 Revere 0.4644701 Rocky River 0.8544933 Upper Arlington 0.7647225 West Geauga 0.7845047 Westerville 0.8445062 Westlake 0.6
LTEI FY ’10 is the Local Tax EffortIndex for the fiscal year 2010.It is an index calculated from schoolincome taxes, property taxes, districtmedian income and state medianincome. It is a measure of the effortdistrict residents make to support education. The higher the numberthe greater the effort.
The median LTEI is 1.0The range is 0.36 – 2.98
http://www.ode.state.oh.us/GD/Templates/Pages/ODE/ODEDetail.aspx?page=3&TopicRelationID=1441&ContentID=101209&Content=102437
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Data Collection
School district web sites
Personal conversations
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High School Class Fees
Bay High has a flat rate of $65/student/year
Most other school districts charge by course
Average # of courses with a fee was 60
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Flat Fee Flat Fee
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Normalization Technique
Determined the average course fee for a given school district
Assumed that the typical student would take 4 of these courses per year
“Estimated High School Class Fee”= # courses[4] x average fee
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$75 $77
$65
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$52
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$86
$102$97
$117
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$123$115
$68
$84
$71
$100
$64
$85
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$124
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Estimated HS Class Fee
Flat Fee
Flat Fee
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Elementary/Middle School Class Fees Included kindergarten and grades 1 – 8 All fees were flat fees per year The number in the chart is the average
of all grades Bay has an average fee of $36 in this
category
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$45
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K, 1-8 Class Fees
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High School Pay to Participate Fees Bay High charges nothing Most schools have a flat rate For schools that had pay to participate
by sport we used an average fee per sport
About half the school districts surveyed had a pay to participate program
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Pay to Participate High School
By Sport
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Granv
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$37 $43
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Pay to Participate Middle School
By Sport
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Activity Fees
Four of the 25 schools surveyed have structured activity fees
Of the remaining schoolsSome have no fees at allSome have ad hoc fees to cover one time
expenses such as field trips and transportation
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Summary of Fee Data
Course Fees High School23 of 25 schools have course feesBay’s fees are slightly less than average
Course Fees Middle School23 of 25 schools have course feesBay’s fees are slightly less than average
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Summary of Fee Data (cont) Pay to participate high school
Half of the schools surveyed had some form of pay to participate
Bay does not have pay to participate at this time
Pay to participate middle schoolHalf of the schools surveyed had some form
of pay to participateBay does not have pay to participate at this
time
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Activity Fees
Four of the 25 schools surveyed have structured activity fees
Of the remaining schoolsSome have no fees at allSome have ad hoc fees to cover one time
expenses such as field trips and transportation
Bay falls in the category of non structured fees
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Survey of Bay High Parents
March 21, 2011 to March 27, 2011
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Survey Sample
728 emails sent out representing 1016 students in grades 8 – 12
35% response from those emailed (255 responses)
45% of the respondents added comments (115 comments)
87% of the respondents said they will have a child at Bay High next year
Average activities per child 2.86
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Cost Reduction Strategies Most preferred – reduce the number of
coaches – 2.08 on the 1 – 4 scale Second choice – charge a $50 - $100
fee per activity – 2.20 on the 1 – 4 scale Third choice – reduce the number of
contests and events – 2.27 (1- 4 scale) Last choice – reduce the number of
athletic teams, music groups and clubs 3.56 (1 – 4 scale)
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Participation level if fee ($50 - $100) were charged 62% said they were just as likely to
participate if a fee were charged
37% said they were less likely to participate if a fee were charged
2% had no one participating
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Fee caps for multiple activities if a $50 to $100 fee per activity were imposed
73% said a per student cap of $100 would make participation more likely
21% said a per student cap of $150 would make participation more likely
10% said a per student cap of $200 would make participation more likely
7% said a per family cap of $400 would make participation more likely
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Comments
31 respondents made a point to express how very important activities are for students
25 commented they were against the concept of charging fees
23 commented that a reasonable fee would be acceptable
21 opined that the high taxes in Bay Village should cover the cost of student activities
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6. It is reasonable to charge a full fee (up to $1,000) for participation in athletics and clubs.
Strongly agree Agree Disagree Strongly disagree Don't know0
10
20
30
40
50
60
70
80
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Strongly agree Agree Disagree Strongly disagree
Don't know0
10
20
30
40
50
60
20.16
53.63
14.92
8.87
2.42
7. It is reasonable to charge a partial fee ($25-$100) to supplement the overall cost of providing the activity
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8. The school district should fully fund all nonathletic, co-curricular activities.
Strongly agree Agree Disagree Strongly disagree Don't know0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
21.77
33.06
26.21
4.03
14.92
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9. The school district should fully fund all athletic activities.
Strongly agree Agree Disagree Strongly disagree Don't know 0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
40
17.43
31.45
36.69
5.24
9.27
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10. Athletic and activity programs should be fully funded by a combination of school district dollars and donations.
Strongly agree Agree Disagree Strongly disagree Don't know 0
10
20
30
40
50
60
16.53
52.82
17.74
2.82
10.08
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11. Members of the general public, who do not have children in school activities, are more likely to believe that it is reasonable to charge fees.
Strongly agree Agree Disagree Strongly disagree Don't know 0
10
20
30
40
50
60
30.24
48.79
6.05
2.82
12.1
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12. Athletics and activities are not essential for the school district to achieve its primary mission.
Strongly agree Agree Disagree Strongly disagree Don't know 0
10
20
30
40
50
60
70
3.23 4.03
27.42
64.11
1.21
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13. The Bay Village School District has an adequate number of opportunities for students to participate in athletics and other activities.
Strongly agree Agree Disagree Strongly disagree Don't know 0
10
20
30
40
50
60
43.15
51.61
3.63
0.4 1.21
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14. How do you believe the fees for activities (sports, music, clubs, etc.) at other area schools compare to the fees at Bay High School?
Higher at other area schools
About the same as other area schools
Lower than other area schools
Don't know 0
10
20
30
40
50
60
15.73
18.95
8.87
56.45
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Takeaways Course fees – Bay is less than average compared
to schools in the survey Pay to participate – Bay is in the half that does not
charge fees Activity fees – Bay is about the same as everyone
else Parents in Bay are content with the current fee
structure Parents in Bay believe activities are extremely
important Parents in Bay are reluctant to pay fees for
sports/activities