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Experts in Fire Protection
The Smarter Way of Fire Fighting 1Lightrailday 2011 - Copenhagen
Fire Protection Solutions from one source
FOGTEC Rail Systems
Rolling Stock Applications
Experts in Fire Protection
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How innovative fire protection solutions can effect design, safety and weight management of railway
vehicles
Roger – A. Dirksmeier, Lightrailday 7. + 8.11. 2011
Experts in Fire Protection
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Index
• Who I am…
• FOGTEC – the Company
• Fire Protection in Light Rail – What is The Status?
• Compensation – The New Magic Aspect in Fire Protection…
• Application Example
• Q & A
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Who I am?
Roger – A. Dirksmeier
Business Unit Manager Rail SystemsFOGTEC since 2001Shareholder since 2003
Before:Deutsche BahnDepartment for Fire Protection in Passenger Transport
Graduated Engineer in vehicle designSpecialised in- Track guided systems- Traction technology
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Headquarter in Köln
Sales Office Nord, HamburgOffice Asia, Mumbai, IndienOffice China, Shanghai, China
FOGTEC France, ParisFOGTEC Spain, Madrid
R&D, RostockIFAB, Rostock
FOGTEC Fire Protection
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Sales
Fixed Maritime Rail SystemsTunnelMobile
Core Business
High Pressure Water Mist Systems
Complete solutions
FOGTEC Fire Protection
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FOGTEC Rail Systems
Business Unit Rail Systems
• Head Office in Cologne
• Consulting work in regard to Fire Protection in Rolling Stock
• Specialised on development and marketing for complete fire protection solutions in rolling stock applications
• Fire detection / fire suppression• Add on products
• Development and manufacturing of plug-and-play modules
• Full Time Rolling Stock Team
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Products I
• Consultancy and Support during development phase for new vehicle platforms and concepts
• Support during the approval process of railway vehicles
• Further development of components and systems
• Integration-Engineering, Installation and Commissioning
• After-sales Service and Maintenance
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Products II
• Fire Detection Systems and their components
• Centre Units
• Data interfaces
• Sensors for smoke, gas, fire and temperatures
• Fire Fighting systems
• High Pressure Water Mist Systems
• Gassystems (Nitrogen)
• Aerosol Generators
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World Market Leader FOGTEC
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Innovation and Excellence Awards 2007Kategorie: Safety & Accessibility Innovation of the Year
FOGTEC Rail Systems – Innovative Solutions
UITP – Award
Most innovative Product 2009
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Quality / Welding
EN 15 085-2
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FOGTEC Rail Systems
3 main categories of users:
- the „Pessimist by experience“- Negative experience leads to realization (malfunction of vehicle,
significant economic loss)
- the „Compensator“- Reduction of costs at other components
or- Weak points caused by construction material
- the „Norm conformable“- Realization relevant for approval (e.g. ITA, UK)
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Fahrzeughersteller
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International the number one – some major orders in 2010/2011
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Fire Protection in Light Rail Systems
Status Report
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Light Rail and Fire Protection?
Which regulations are relevant?
Example: in germany the EBA-guideline
has to be taken into account, but vehicles
under BOStrab – requirements can use it…
The requirements for active fire protection
Solutions are mostly related to operation
concept and sensitivty of the operator.
But more and more light rail vehicles run
underground, too.
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Running Light Rail Projects
• Bombardier Monorail Sao Paulo – FDS and FFS for passenger area on customers request
• Bombardier Flexity Melbourne – FDS for passenger area and drivers cab on customers request
• Bombardier Flexity Bursa – FDS for technical areas on customers request
• Stadler Tango Stuttgart – FDS for passenger area on customers request after fire risk analysis
• Bombardier Flexity RET – FDS for passenger and technical area on customers request after fire risk analysis
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Running Light Rail Projects
• Bom Sinal VLT – FDS and FFS for diesel power pack after a big fire (pessimist by experience)
• Essener Verkehrs AG (today: VIA)
FDS and FFS for passenger areas for the control of fires and to reduce the scenario for design of infrastructure
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Compensation
–
The New Magic Aspect in Fire Protection
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Compensation
Latin:
Compensare
In our use:
To take another way
than the gudielines
ask for
–
with the same level
of safety
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Accepted Aspects by the Approval Bodies
• Against the function guarantee of cables and wires for traction control (here in particular prevention of an automatic train stop due to defects in the case of fire in the BUS system) and communication in the case of danger (here in particular loss of announcement possibilities in person compartments) lower demands can be made. That means for example that a proof of material-characteristics is not necessary and/or further preventive measures can be avoided.
• To the construction materials (e.g. in accordance with EN 45545-2:2008-2) due to the limited fire development lower requirements arose to the flameretardance. This is justified by the small flame heights and/or limited heat release in the starting phase of a fire. The materials in the direct surrounding of the fire source are hardly or only slightly involved at the fire spread due to the active fire fighting. That means for example that an interior ceiling structure could be classified comparably to a side panel construction. Further on toxicity tests can be avodided for small articles/items or for materials behind linings.
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Accepted Aspects by the Approval Bodies
• Use of small items (e.g. gab covering, hoses, mounting plates) or other construction materials (e.g. interior liners, cables) with deviations from the proof requirement (e.g. normative requirements scarcely missed) would be possible. That means for example that e.g. for rubber elements in the range of the doors or windows an examination of the fire resistance in relation to commercial ignition initials (e.g. gas lighter) is sufficient.
• Lower demands can be made at separations or fire-retarding sealing of compartments (sanitary area, electrical cabinets, train driver compartment), since fire containment inside the compartment and/or prevention of fire spread into neighbouring areas from the outside is given. That means for example that the space-separating effect on basis of a construction evaluation is sufficient and large scale fire tests can be avoided.
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Accepted Aspects by the Approval Bodies
• Demanded fire wall doors can be omitted, because compartments for persons can be classified as „ area of relative safety” due to the fire suppression at least over duration of the fire fighting process. Further on, time-critical evacuations can be excluded – even in the case of a bigger fire scenario (e.g. arson with a priming charge) than calculated.
• Increased evacuation times in relation to the original conditions can be accorded, since the health endangerment is lower in the fire affected areas and lies within acceptable borders. That means for example that vehicles with an additionally installed fire fighting system can be used in a higher operating category.
• Fire protection requirement concessions to the construction of the vehicles regarding the safety requirements (e.g. observableness of luggage compartments) are possible.
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Accepted Aspects by the Approval Bodies
• As an effect of the immediate fire fighting there occurs not a thermal load critical for the body shell structure of the vehicle. That means for example that the body shell is not exposed at any time to the thermal load of a full blaze. Out of this reason it is not compellingly necessary to proof the stability of the body shell during a full fire blaze.
• Fire safety concessions to the infrastructure (e.g. lower requirements of fire protection of building parts, smoke outlet and smoke stopping systems) are possible.
• In connection with an automatic fire fighting process in the vehicle the development of a fire is limited to a minimum, so that the limit value defaults can be fallen below the calculated fire scenario concerning the smoke release in the emergency escape routes of the stations as well as the stability of the buildings.
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Design Examples…
Use of active fire protection measures to:
- Use „Open Gangway Philosophy“- Use different materials than required- To upgrade existing vehicles
for:
- new approvals
- new design approach
- better weight balance
- higher safety level
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Application Example:
Compensation –
Impact to Infrastructure
FOGTEC R E D
DYNAMICSEFFICIENCY andRAIL
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Underground Traffic Systems
In this case:
The approval body required
the upgrade of the underground
stations related to fire protection,
main aspect: evacuation concept
Given scenario for concept:
a train under full developed fire
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FOGTEC R E D – Project
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FOGTEC R E D – Project
Fire Protection System
for P89 of EVAG
( former Dockland train)
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Problem:
A lot of stations, which are 30 to 40 years old and the measures they have to realise are related to extreme efforts and costs
The FOGTEC idea: reduce the given scenario by active measurements on board, in this case with a fire detection and fire suppression system.
The operator, the fire safety consultant and the approval body accepted this solution, but they gave a approval plan to FOGTEC.
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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Idea of the operator: to win time for the evacuation
Main question: will the fire come back?
?
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Step 1: smoke tests on board of the different running trains to develop a fire detection concept on the base of the ARGE – directive
Step 2: full scale fire test to demonstrate the effectiveness of the fire suppression system
Step 3: Realisation of a prototype system in a running train to demonstrate the feasibility and to get a clear view of the costs
Step 4: safety approval for the complete system and the software
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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EVAG – Project – Step 1Smoke Tests to develop
detection concept
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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FOGTEC R E D – Project
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All types of trains were tested:– Tests during during phase– Tests with open windows as well es during tunnel operation
Validation of smoke detector´s position
Abteilfenster zu Alle Abteilfenster geöffnet
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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To optimise the amount of water that has to be carried,
the train is splitted in sections:
Section Description
1 Drivers Desk A
2 Drivers Side wagon A
3 Gangway side wagon A
4 Gangway side wagon B
5 Drivers Side Wagon B
6 Drivers Desk B
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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FOGTEC R E D – Project
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EVAG – Project – Step 21:1 Full Scale Tests to
validate the efficiency
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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Transfer from reality to testing:
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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Full Scale
Test Mock up
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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Position of
Thermocouples
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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FOGTEC R E D – Project
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Fire Test with activation of the System
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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Fire test without the activation of the system
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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Fire test without the activation of the system
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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IMO Cushion on seats without activation of the system
Interruption of the test after 11 minutes!
Extreme damage of
complete mock up
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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Comparison with and without system (cushion on seats)
With activated FOGTEC System Without activated FOGTEC System
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Firetest with FOGTEC system (cushions under seat)
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EVAG – Project – Step 3Realise a prototype
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FOGTEC R E D – Project
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Speciality in this project:
Roof design
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Points with high
dynamic stresses
Additional measures
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Nirtogen Module
High Pressure Pipe Work Roof Installation
Installaton Track
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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Medium support from outside (on top of
ceiling) into the car
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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Water Cylinder
Inside the car
FOGTEC R E D – Project
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Smoke detector
Nozzle
GSM – Service module
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EVAG – Project – Step 4Approvals
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Test Assessment done by IFAB
and TÜV Nord
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FOGTEC R E D – Project
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FOGTEC Rail Days 2012 – be a part of it…
June 2012 in Warnemünde (Rostock), Germany
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Q & A
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