The Social Crediter, NQvember 17, 1945.

~mESOCIAL CREDITERFOR POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC REALISM

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From Week to WeekIt may not have escaped your notice, Clarence, that

when the Socialist 'Dr. Dalton reduced your income tax byone shilling in the pound, the Socialist Town Councilspromptly put up your Rates two shillings in the pound.You didn't suppose you were going to' touch any real money,did you?

(FQr the benefit of -Qur overseas readers, who are oftenpuzzled by the word, Rates are Local Taxes. They enablethe banks to' tax you twice over for the same thing.)

• • •Well authenticated stories of organised sabotage of

,valuable and urgently needed material by Government orderare reaching- us from many quartrers. One of many such,is that an aircraft carrier on the way home from the Eastjettisoned twenty undamaged and unstripped bombers on

....:...,.__"the way. TO' take one item alone, a -bo~bing aircraft has- thousands of pounds' worth of the finest mstruments extant,

varying from the highest grade clocks and watches to wire-less instruments and intercommunication telephones, It isalmost impossible to' buy a good clock nowadays and almostas difficult to get one repaired, but it is clear that the Gov-ernment is not going to' let you have those you have paid for,

• • •The amusement of spotting winners has always en-

thralled the human, or ordinary, man in these islands, and,as distinguished from the staff of Socialist weeklies, we areall too human. We select Mr. W. J. Brown, the IndependentMember for Rugby, as the coming feature of the House ofCommons. Our reasons? Elementary my dear WatsQn!Employing the studied understatement so popular nowadays,he is quite intelligent, and reasonably honest, The threeparties in the present political gymkhana are the Ints (intel-ligent but not honest) the Hints (honest but not intelligent)and the Nints (neither honest nor intelligent). Mr. Brownis hors concours. -

• • •There are few more significant indications of the real

object of the Second Thirty Years War than the appointment,after the first phase, of the Jew stockbroker, Rufus Isaacs,to' the Viceroyalty of India, and that of the ex-railwayporter and Trades-unionist, Mr. Burrows, to' be Governor ofBengal, after the second phase. We are of course awarethat all men are nnw equal (and how! ), and we have, inconsequence, every respect for Jew stockbrokers and railway

~ porters, more particularly the latter. But we also know thatthis view is not shared by any single native-born Indian,whatever opinions he may express for political purposes,and that the marvellous achievements of the British in India

for the benefit of the Indians have been possible, not as thenatives of the United States wish to' believe by the methodsof "Uncle Toms Cabin," but by the silent exercise of subtlequalities which Jane Austen and Anthony Trollope under-stood perfectly, but which are not noticeable in TradesUninn activity.

There could be no better method of undermining themain pillar of British influence and laying India open to'"American" exploitation, But, oddly enough, our thoughtsturn to' those stately chuprassis in their scarlet and gold, andblue and maroon robes who served a succession of Lieut.Governors with dignity and affection at Belvedere. InIndia the servant chooses his master; and we have no doubtwhatever which type of dispensation is congenial to' thosebelievers in heredity. Doubtless Mr. Burrows will put theirsuccessors into a natty porters' uniform,

Slave State NewsAccording to' the Daily Mail, john Charles Good,

a married man with nne child, who has a job at whichhe can earn £7 a week, was summoned by the Ministry ofLabour. at Marlborough-srreet on November 5 for absentinghimself from work without reasonable excuse and for beingpersistently late.

Mr. Walter Hedley, K.c., the magistrate who dis-missed the summons on payment of £3 3s. costs, said:"I confess I think it is time the people were allowed to'-choosetheir own work."

Good, a skilled worker with an electrical firm, said hewas willing to' be directed anywhere in the country onessential work, but that he would not work at his presentjob, where the class of work was inferior to' his capabilities.

Mr. Hedley .asked counsel for the Ministry: "It is notof importance that he should be allowed a little liberty, Isuppose?"

To Good he said: "The trouble is that none of us isallowed to' choose what work we should do nnw. I haveno choice but to administer the law."

On the day before, Mr. L. C. White, general secretaryof the Civil Servants' Clerical Association told a Londonconference of 430 of its members who had been on service(not 'civil') that the Civil Service is losing its popularity.First open competition for grades had been postponed becauseof lack of entrants.

"A number of younger Civil Servants in the forces,"said Mr. White, "have indicated that; although they intendto come back as a temporary measure, they have nO' desireto remain permanently in the Service."

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Progress?[ ] justify the paradox th1Jt the thirteenth

century is in some respects less distant than the nineteenth.- Reginald J. Dingle, The Return to Metaphysics

(Nineteenth Century Review, November).The following opinions of distinguished men are cited

in an appendix to' The Thirteenth Greatest of Centuries(J. J. Walsh) on matters concerning the question of thereality of human progress i-e-

LoRD BRYCE(Atlantic Manthly, August, 1907)It does not seem possible, if we go back to' the earliest

literature which survives to' us from Western Asia andSoutheastern Europe, to' say that the creative powers of thehuman mind in such subjects as poetry, philosophy, andhistorical narrative, or portraiture, have either improved ordeteriorated, The poetry of the early Hebrews and of theearly Greeks has never been surpassed and hardly everequalled. Neither has the philosophy nf Plato and Aristotle,nor the speeches of Demosthenes and Cicero, Geniuseslike Dante, Chaucer, and Shakespeare appear without ourbeing able to account for them, and for aught we knowanother may appear at any moment. It is just as difficult,if we look back five centuries, to' assert either progress ordecline in painting. Sculpture has never again risen to so higha level as it touched in the fifth century, B.c., nor withinthe last three centuries, to SO' high a level as it reached atthe end of the fifteenth. But we can found no generalisationsupon that fact. Music is the most inscrutable of the arts,and whether there is any progress to' be expected nther thanthat which may come from a further improvement ininstruments constituting an orchestra, I will not attempt to'conjecture, any more than I should dare to raise controversyby enquiring whether Beethoven represents progress fromMozart, Wagner prngress from Beethoven.

• • •PROFESSOR FLINDERS PETRIE

(in The Independent, January 7, 1909):-We have now before us a view of the powers of man

at the earliest point to which we can trace written history,and what strikes us most is how very little his nature orabilities have changed in seven thousand years; what headmired we admire; what were his limits in tine handiworkalso are OUirS. We may have a wider outlook, a greaterunderstanding of things; our interests may have extendedin this interval; but SO' far as human nature and tastes go,man is essentially unchanged in this interval. ... This is thepractical outcome of extending our view of man three timesas far back as we used to' look, and it must teach us howlittle material civilisation is likely in the future to' changethe nature, the weaknesses, or the abilities of our ancestorsin ages yet to' come.

• • •PROFESSOR T. H. HUXLEY

(Rectorial Address, Aberdeen University.)The scholars of the Medieval Universities seem to' have

studied grammar, logic and rhetoric; arithmetic andgeometry; astronomy, theology and music. Thus their work,however imperfect and faulty, judged by modern lights, itmay have been, brought them face to' face with all theleading aspects of the many-sided mind of man. FDr thesestudies did really contain, at any rate in embryo, sometimes82

it may be in caricature, what we now call philosophy, mathe-matical and physical science, and art. And I doubt if thecurriculum of any modern university shows so clear andgenerous a comprehension .of what is meant by culture, asthis old Trivium and Quadrivium does,

• • •DR. AUGUSTUS JESSOP (Before the Great Pillage) 1901.

The evidence is abundant and positive, and is increas-ing upon us year by year, that the work done upnn the fabricsof our churches, and the other work done in the beautifyingof the interior of our churches, such as the woodcarvingof our screens, the painting of the lovely figures in thepanels of those screens, the embroidery of the banners andvestments, the frescoes on the walls, the engraving of themonumental brasses, the stained glass in the windows, .andall that vast aggregate of artistic achievements which existedin immense profusion in our village churches till the six-teenth century stripped them bare-all this was executed bylocal craftsmen. The evidence for this is accumulating uponus every year, as nne antiquary after another succeeds inunearthing fragments of pre-reformation church-wardens'accounts,

We have actual contracts for church building and chui:chrepairing undertaken by village contractors. We have thecost of a rood screen paid to' a village carpenter, of paintingexecuted by local artists. We find the name of an artificer,described as an aurifaber, or worker in gold and silver,living in a parish which could never have had five hundredinhabitants; we find the penpie in another place casting anew bell and making the mould for it themselves; we findthe blacksmith of another place forging the iron work forthe church' door, or we get a payment entered for thecarving of the bench ends in a little church five hundredyears ago, which bench ends are to be seen in that churchat the present moment, And we get fairly bewildered bythe astonishing wealth of skill and artistic taste and aestheticfeeling which there must have been in this England of ours,in times which till lately we had assumed to' be barbarictimes. Bewildered, I say,. because we' cannot understandhDWit all came to' a dead-stop in a single generation, notknowing that the frightful spoliation of our churches andother parish buildings, and the outrageous plunder of theparish guilds in the reign of Edward the Sixth by' thehorrible band of robbers that carried nn their detestablework, effected such a hideous obliteration, such a cleansweep of the precious treasures that were dispersed in richprofusion over the whole land, that a dull despair of everreplacing what had been ruthlessly pillaged crushed thespirit of the whole nation, and art died nut in rural England,and King Whitewash and Queen Ugliness ruled supremefor centuries.·

• • •ROBERT HUNTER (Poverty: erne. 1900)

How many people in the country [U.S.A.] are inpoverty? Is the number yearly growing larger? Are thereeach year more and more of the unskilled classes pursuinghopelessly the elusive phantom of self-support and independ-ence? Are they, as in a dream, working faster, only themore swiftly to' move backward? Are there each year moreand more hungry children and more and more fatherswhose utmost effort may not bring into the horne as muchenergy in food as it takes nut in industry? These arenot fanciful questions, nor are they sentimental ones. Ihave not the slightest doubt that there are in the United

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States ten million persons in precisely these conditions ofpoverty, but I am largely guessing, and there may be asmany as fifteen or twenty millions!. . .,WILLIAM COBBETT (History OIf the Protestant Reformation)

These things prove, beyond all dispute, that Englandwas, in Catholic times, a real wealthy country; that wealthwas generally diffused; that every part of the countryabounded in men of solid property; and that, of course,there were always great resources at hand in cases ofemergency .... In short, everything shows -that England wasthen a country abounding in men of real wealth.

• • •FORTESCUE, (Lord High Chancellor under Henry VI)

The King of England cannot alter the laws, nr makenew ones, without the express consent of the whole kingdomin Parliament assembled. Every inhabitant is at his libertyfully to' use and enjoy whatever his farm produceth, thefruits of the earth, the increase of his flock and the like-all the improvements he makes, whether by his own properindustry or of those he retains in his service, are his own,to' use and enjoy, without the let, interruption or denialnf any. If he be in any wise injured or oppressed, he shallhave his amends and satisfactions against the party offending.Hence it is that the inhabitants are rich in gold, silverand in all the -necessaries and conveniencies of life. Theydrink no water unless at certain times, upon a religiousscore, and by way of doing penance. They are fed in greatabundance, with all sorts of flesh and fish, of which theyhave plenty everywhere; they are clothed throughout in goodwoollens, their bedding and other furniture in the houseare of wool, and that in great store, - They are also wellprovided with all sorts of household goods and necessaryimplements for husbandry. Everyone, according to' hisrank, hath all things which conduce to' make mind and lifeeasy and happy. .

• ••Dr. Walsh himself says:-An Act of Edward III fixes the wages, without food,

as follows. There are many other things mentioned, butthe following will be enough for. nur purpose:

A woman hay-making, or weeding corn for the dayA man filling dung-cartA reaperMowing an acre of grassThreshing a quarter of wheat

s. d.o 1o 3fo 4o 4o 4

The price of shoes, cloth and provisions, throughout thetime that this law continued in force, was as follows:

£ s. d.004o 1 1140o 16 0o 1 8012034o 0 2t001034006o 0- 4-

A pair nf shoes ......Russet broadcloth, the yardA stall fed DXA grass fed ox ,....,A fat sheep unshornA fat sheep shornA fat hog two years old ....."A fat gooseAle, the gallon, by proclamationWheat, the quarterWhite wine, the gallonRed wine ......

An Act' nf Parliament of the fourteenth century, infixing the price of meat, names the four sorts of meat-beef, pork, mutton and veal, and sets forth in its preamblethe words, "these being the food of the poorer sort .... "

"The Social Crediter" IndexA South Australian reader, Mr. M. R. W. Lee, began

an index of The Social Crediter five years ago "to' keep,track of articles and references which interested me." In-terrupted by war work as a telephone technician, Mr. Leeresumed his work after a time, and has sent a copy to' theSecretariat. With the omission of the matter in nine issues,the index covers The Social Creditor from February, 1940,to December, 1944, and will be completed in England andprinted for distribution. A card index of the paper is inthe hands of Mr. E. J. Pankhurst, twO' years of its lifehaving been covered. It is hoped that an annual index willbe available to' readers as future volumes are completed.

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V()II. 15. No. 11. Saturda», NOvember 17, 1945.

The Government DefeatThe defeat in Committee of the Socialist Government

by Members elected to' support it has importance beyondits immediate significance. It demonstrates a revolt, perhapslargely unconscious, against the fact that Parliament is nnwonly a puppet-show, and that policy is imposed, continuous,and sublimely contemptuous of the interests of this country-in fact, definitely inimical to them. It confirms, if CDn-firmation were needed, that the general election result wasnot a vote for "Socialism," i.e., the Slave State; but althoughit has naturally been so publicised by the Forces whichwish to accelerate our progress to that condition by rushinglegislation through .a green and unsophisticated House ofCommons, It was a protest against the Slave State; and itfurther demonstrates that the only possible Democracy isnegative--,a conclusion which is further confirmed by theclever propaganda against "negativeness." Jump over theprecipice rather than take time to find nut where you are.

The Secret SecretPoliticians and the newspapers still speak and write.

of the 'atomic' power and its uses as though their premiseswere axiomatic. 'Men nf science however eminent' is aphrase which conjures up a picture of difference and, whenused quasi-resentfully of a supposed intention of 'men ofscience,' of independence. The universities (!if not thesecondary schools) of Europe and America can mass produce'atom-bomb scientists' by the score whenever the power offinancial inducement says 'go.' SO' the difference andindependence of the physicists upon whom public reputationhas been conferred (by publicity agencies 'concentric'c=touse Major Douglas's word-s-with finance) are not axiomatic,Nothing really distinguishes them from reputable economistssave, possibly, the accident of the serial number of thescholarship they may have 'won.'

When The Economist says it 'casts its vote' for theworld state, and hopes 'the public,' "after it has broodedon the atomic bomb a little longer, and has realised howsharp the choice is between the world state and destruction,"will do the same, the implication in either case is notaxiomatic." The Economist has no vote of its own to' cast,and the 'public'S' vote is a trigger mechanism which the'voter' can operate or leave to' someone else to' operate,but which, in both cases, releases a missile, directed athimself.84

It is not axiomatic that the enormous power transfer-mations which seem to be inseparably connected with nuclearfission at present are necessarily so connected. Like. the \....,.,truth of Newton's 'Laws' the principle nf mechanicalsimilitude requires demonstration, and its applications con-firmation, Real innovators have from time to' time comeupon the scene with superior powers of understanding andbut little equipment, and, whatever-it is, it is not axiomaticthat no 'atomic' tintacks for the wrappings nf bankers'Christmas presents, and 'atomic' gum for azure envelopesare nnt awaiting judicious distribution. The House ofCommons debate on the Police Force missed (as it invariablydoes) the most important feature of a sane notion of Lawand Order, namely, that success in social organisation isinversely proportional to the force required to' hold in checka minority of society's members, and when the minority tendsto' become a majority, the index of success falls to' zero.Lawlessness in behaviour is increasing alarmingly, and mostcitizens of large cities have their daily tale to' tell of .delinquency which would not have been credited, let alonetolerated, thirty years ago, nr even ten years ago, It is not

, axiomatic that the morons who administer present worldpolicy (whence is it?) are prepared to' add private cnmpe-tition to' the load of their present worries; but the tendencyis that way. Possibly The Economist has such a contingencyin mind when it adds the phrase 'some super-suspiciousneurotic' to' the cliche, 'some aggressor' in its account of theorigin of the corning 'atomic' war. Evidently it is awareof the existence of suspicion, Why the newspaper takes thetrouble to' repeat the silly notion that "Modem wars do notbegin by accident, or because someone's gun happens to' gooff, [which is quite true]. They start because some Head .of State .<[ a Hitler] thinks he will win and thinks he himself ~will not be badly hurt in the process of winning" is rather amystery. Possibly we overrate the' intelligence service ofT he EC01UJmi~t; but most dockers, nowadays, know better

• than that why wars begin, and why this nne continues,though, for the moment they' are not getting any better pressfor their ideas than we are for ours.

Notwithstanding these observations, there is somethingas yet unexplained about the alleged "revolt" of the scientists,Accustomed to be heralded in all the slick advertisementsas public and private benefactors, they may be feeling thechill wind of public displeasure much as a BloomsburyFabian might feel the November air after a night of furiousplanning. But the rebuke by 'Scrutator' in The SundayTimes suggests a certain serious irritation, They have, hesays, "no title to' arrogate to' themselves the making of first-class decisions in the political sphere over the heads of theproperly constituted [sic!] political authorities. It is noteven as if experience had shown them pa:rticularly wise insuch matters. Some may be, but the type is not." The'genius' type! 'Scrutator' is much politer (as nne wouldexpect) to Professor Wnndward who "holds the Chair ofInternational Relations in" the University of Oxford (nearDidcot). The Peer of Balliol (The Times, November 13)concurs, It seems a pity that Truth masks its insight,shown in the sentence, " ... Sir john Anderson, the GDV-ernment's newly found atomic expert, happens to' be thehighest authority on the background of the Anglo-Americanfinancial situation,' with the ambiguous introduction "It isa luc~ chance that ... " .The first ~AtDmiC' Prime Minister "--!has himself the reputation of bemg 'a perfect machine.' -And whose? .

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Atomic Bomb andInfringement of Copyright

By A. V. McNEILL (VANCOUVER)

Everybody knows nnw that the war began and endedwith the use of overwhelming destructive power to' forcenations to' surrender their sovereignty, exercised at thebeginning by Hitler and at the end by th~ Allies.

"The villanies that you teach me I will execute andit will go hard but I will better the instruction."

"Bettering the instruction" of villains can obviously bejustified only if it is restricted to' purely defensive measuresagainst, villains, i.e., against such aggression as we havesuffered from Germany and Japan, and that after the event.But many of the comments on atomic bombing reported inour daily press make nO' restrictions in this sense. Severalsuggest that the threat of atomic bombing can be used to'force free nations, not aggressors, "to come to their senses,"i.e., to' give up their sovereignty and join a sort of WnrldFederal Union. . And a W orld .Security COuncil is to' beset up, endowed by us, at their sole and undisputed dis-cretion, with the power to' administer this typical Nazipolicy, That is what Mr. J. M. Coldwell calls "socialising"it! Ye gods and little fishes! As if any group of humanbeings should be entrusted with such exclusive destructivepower over their fellows,

The situation demands that some voice make it plainto' Messrs. Truman, Attlee, Coldwell, aye, and perhaps to'Churchill too, to all who have not publicly repudiated thisextended use of atomic bombing to justify the policy under-lying Nazi atrocities, that, whatever the war meant forthem, it meant something more for the average Britishsubject than a mere squabble with the Nazis over an in-fringement of copyright, The voice which will make thisplain must be an authoritative voice, and, in a democracy,*there is only one voice which carries this authority and onlynne which our representatives must obey.

Under these circumstances the following statementsdescribing the aims of the various Institutes of InternationalAffairs made by their spokesmen, Dr. Arnold Toynbee, in1931, deserve a far wider publicity than they have beengiven by the various publications or branches of that organ-isation, A comparison of dates ShDWSthat their formal andofficial adoption of Nazi philosophy anticipated Hitler'srise to power by a few years and Quisling by nine. I amquoting from pp. 808-809 of their joumal, InternatilJ7'l(l]Affairs, of November, 1931. Dr. Toynbee is speaking:

"If we are frank with ourselves, we shall admit thatwe are engaged on a deliberate and sustained and concen-trated effort to' impose limitations upon the sovereignty andthe independence of the fifty or sixty local sovereign inde-pendent States which at present partition the habitablesurface of the earth .... It is just because we are reallyattacking the principle of local sovereignty that we keep onprotesting our loyalty to' it so loudly. The harder we pressour attack upon this idol, the more pains we take to keepits priests and devotees in a fool's paradise, lapped in afalse sense of security which will inhibit them from takingup arms in their idol's defence ....

"And all the time we are denying with our lips whatwe are doing with our hands."

It is unknown to me whether the members of thisorganisation, as such, have ever identified themselves publiclywith Nazism, as such, or whether they claim a closer affinitythan that assured them by the possession of common aimsand common methods. The fact that their spokesmen onthe radio and in the press, in this country and throughoutthe Empire, have seemed to find it necessary to' be, perhaps,unnecessarily loud in their public denunciations of Hitler,Quisling, and CO'. suggests that the real ground of theirresentment against these specimens-and it can be a realnne-is based rather upon what they feel to' be an infringe-ment of copyright than upon any spiritual difference. Whatother grounds of disagreement could they have against peoplewho, like themselves, were "engaged nn a deliberate andsustained and concentrated effort to' impose limitations uponthe sovereignty and independence of the fifty or sixtv localsovereign States which at present partition the habitablesurface of the earth," (aims), and of course, "denying with _their lips what they are doing with their hands," (methods).

The coining of new words, "Quisling," "FifthColumnist," etc., widely used by them, if not actually mintedby sympathisers with the Institutions of International Affairs,is significant, and significant because it is unnecessary. Itmust obviously be done to' shield somebody, "Treachery to'humanity," the older expression, would surely fill the billquite adequately, and, as the above quotations become betterknown, people may perhaps suggest new expressions of theirown.

The headquarters of the Canadian Institute of Inter-national Affairs is at Toronto.

The issues before the Anglo Saxon peoples everywhereand especially before the peoples of the British Empire havebecome increasingly grave for years. Luckily. the widepublicity given the first atomic bombs is making them in-creasingly clear. These issues are, whether we, admittedlynominally Christian peoples only, are to' be committed be-hind Dur backs, i.e., through the suppression by the dailypress, or by other means, of .the issues involved, to' anacceptance of pagan, Nazi philosophies? Are we to' allowthe war which has just ended to' be treated as a meresquabble with the Nazis over an infringement of copyright?The fine unforgettable words which Churchill used so aptlyto describe the magnificent heroism of the R.A.F. in theBattle of Britain can be used, unfortunately just as aptly,to' describe our own case nnw, though in a very differentsense from that in which they were first used: "When didso many (the peoples of the British Empire) owe so muchto' so few" (the various Institutes of International Affairsand their financial backers)?

"The proposal [to' nationalise Cable and Wireiess] is ofextremely mixed parentage involving the Coalition, -Care-taker, and Socialist Governments here, and many of theDominion Governments abroad." - The Economist.

*As our readers are aware, the continuing method of the Secre-tariat has been to explore, by appropriate action, the reality,not the theory of social mechanisms, We have tried, and arestill trying, to discover the locus of effective sanctions for a policywhich we could entertain. Whether or not the sanction we seek(not merely "a" sanction) is resident or effective in "a democracy,"is a judgment which, in our opinion, is qualifiable by the testof our experience, that we are not living under any form of"democracy" of which we can approve as a just mechanism forthe release of a Social Credit (or a Christian) policy.

- Editor, T.S.C.

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PARLIAMENTHouse of Commons: October 29, 1945.

BANK OF ENGLAND BILLLieut.-Gol'Ofle'i Hamilton (Sudbury): .,. an inquisitive

mind led me to' inquire into the processes of banking. Iused to regard banks as very useful institutions for safe-guarding a man's mnney and for saving him· the troubleof handling large quantities of cash himself. I knew alsothat they were agencies for large-scale borrowing and lendingtransactions. I had a subconscious feeling that money wasa eommodity limited in extent, like potatoes. You eitherhad it or did not have it, and if ynu did nnt have it, ynucertainly could not create it OUt of thin air, FQr us privateindividuals .that is only too true, and painfully true some-times. But I' found that in' the case of banks the situationwas entirely different. Money was a medium of exchangeand could easily be created out of nothing. When a bank,made a loan, it was not a loan in the ordinary acceptedsense Qf the word, the transferring of purchasing powerfrom one party to' another. For the greater part, themoney was created in the act of making a loan, and, simi-larly, when a bank purchased securities, the purchase moneywas created in the very act of purchase.

I realise also that this process of creating money, 'and,at other times, the converse process of destroying it, isfar and away the most important function of our bankingsystem ....

This Bill, when it becomes law, will enable the represen-tatives of the nation to' ensure that the supply of money isalways adequate to' the national needs. I look forward to'a series of Measures in the months and years to come whichwill ensure in every. part of our economic system that moneywill be used in the best and fullest way.

Colonel Oliver Sta:nley (Bristol, West): .,. To sum up,we on this side of the House believe that this Bill can dono possible good, and may do very considerable harm. Ofcourse, we know the real, reason why it is being introduced-nnt a reason given by anybody in the House to-night.We know that the hon. Members opposite have got to'socialise something. The Bank of England may not be themost important industry; it may not be the industry whichwill respond best to' public control; it may not be theindustry where the results are likely to' be greatest, but ithas this nne supreme benefit-there is no other industrywhich you can socialise in five Clauses and a short Title.This Bill-if I may copy the gestures of the right hon.Gentleman-is not a natural necessity, it is just a partysymbol. That is why we, on this side of the House, opposethis Bill. We oppose it not because it is a danger, butbecause it is a sham; not because it is going to' do harm,but because it is going to' do nothing at all. We object,when there are SO' many realities, SO' many real problems,demanding the attention of the Government of the day, thatthe processes of this House, and the time of its Members,should be wasted on a piece of political eyewash.

October 30, 1945.BANK OF ENGLAND BILL

Sir John Mell'lJr (Sutton Coldfield): Might I ask aquestion? The Chancellor of the Exchequer described thisas a good bargain from the point nf view of the Treasury.86

Does he mean that it has been subject to negotiation betweenthe Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Bank of England?

Mr. Hall: In the sense in which I think the hon,Gentleman means "negotiation," the answer is "No." , Theposition has been fixed at the present figure because thisdoes, more or less, indicate what the present yield at the'market price is.

INCOME TAX (P.A. Y.E. SYSTEM)Sir William Darling asked the Chancellor of the

Exchequer, approximately, the number of employers opera-ting pay as you earn; and to indicate any plans he mayhave for relieving them of this unpaid duty.

Mr. Dalton: About three-quarters of a million. I amnnw .considering whether the undoubted advantages ofP.A.Y.E. can be secured with less ,administrative effort,

WORLD WAR VICTORY(THANKS TO SERVICES)

Mr. Churchill (Wnodford): ... I must, however, expressmy regret at the announcement which he made yesterdaythat the tradition which existed in this Island of votingmonetary rewards to' famous victorious commanders shouldhave been abandoned on this occasion, and that no specialmention nf those commanders should be made in the Motion,which is certainly contrary to' precedent in one respect. Ishould have thought that, at least, the two most famoussoldiers whom we have produced since the Duke of Welling-ton would have received, by name, the thanks, at least, ofthis House, together with such leaders of the Navy and AirForce as might, upnn consideration, have been found appro-priate. The theory that the mass is everything, and thatindividuals are little or nothing, is not one which finds itsmost successful application in war. Once some equality inforce has been achieved between two sides, it is leader-ship that counts, above all, and which, in fact, .decides. ' , .

HYDRO-ELECTRIC SCHEMESMajor R~ asked the Secretary of State for Scot-

land whether he can give the details of the expenditure onthe Tummel-Garry hydro-electric project, .

Mr. Buchanan: The estimated cost of the mechanicaland electtical work for the project is £1,172,000 and of thecivil engineering works, including .the power stations£5,006,000. '

Sir-B. Nevin-Spence asked the Secretary- of State forScotland if, he will give a list of schemes prepared, or incourse of preparation, by the North of Scotland Hydro-Electric Board; and to what extent the provision of elec-tricity supplies in the remoter parts of the Highlands andIslands would be jeopardised if the Tummel-Garry scheme'

_ were abandoned.Mr. Buchanan: The following schemes have been' pre-

pared nr are in course of preparation by the North ofScotland Hydro-Electric Board:Consi/ructi'lJna1Schemes

- -Sloy.i Morar and. Lochalsh,Tummel-Garry and Gairloch.Fannich.Cowal,Shira.

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Skye._J Findhorn- Duntelchaig.

Affric.Transmission from Shira and Sloy to' Central Scotland.Transmission from Tummel-Garry to Southern Perth-

shire.Transmission- from Fannich to' Inverness, Keith and

Aberdeen.Staff housing for Sloy.Surveys are nnw being made for schemes to' supply

Orkney, Shetland, Kintyre, Caithness, Ullapool and Loch-inver. Where as in the case of Orkney and Shetland, water-power resources are sma11, it is proposed to supply distri-bution schemes if necessary from nil engines.Distribution Schemes

Orkney.Shetland.Morar.Lochalsh.North Cowal.South Cowal.Bute.Great Cumbrae.Gairloch,Ullaponl.Lochinver.Skye.The Outer Hebrides.Islay.Mull, Luing and Seil.

wi Arran.If the Tummel-Garry Scheme were abandoned, pro-

vision of electricity supplies to' nearly one-third of theseschemes would immediately be ieopardised and the supplyto' all of them would be seriously retarded.

October 31, 1945.

BANK OF ENGLAND (MONEY)Sir John Mellor (Sutton Coldfield): I make nO' apology

for opposing this Financial Resolution, Yesterday, afterQuestion Time, the Leader of the House said he understoodthat it had been agreed officially with the Opposition thatthis Resolution should go through, I do not know exactlywhat he had in mind, but I should imagine that at anyrate any understanding there might have been was no longerbinding after the Chief Governmenr Whip moved theclosure before the end of time available for Business onMonday, If anyone should, none the less, criticise me foropposing this Resolution now, I would pray in aid whatMr. Speaker said on the occasion when he was called to'the Chair, at the beginning of this Parliament.

"I have been a back bencher for a "Iong time, and when wesaw the two Front Benches, Government and Opposition, puttingtheir heads together, we always used to say, 'well, the back bencheris going to get a dirty deal'." [OFFICIALREPORT,August I, 1945;Vol. 413, c. 8.]

POLICE BILLNovember 1, 1945.

..,.?/ Mr. Maude (Exeter): '" A lot of us in this Houseare quite young, but, nevertheless, as a people, we are avery old people. I am now going to pull nut the stop on

what I call the local feeling, which has not been sufficientlymet. A lot of us are extremely proud nf the fact thatwe have, for many years, conducted- ourselves extre~lywell in our local areas. We have conducted our policeforces very efficiently, and that is a thing of immense and,real local pride to' persons who enter local government,and not to' those only, The citizens themselves are reallyproud of their police forces., If, in fact, I felt certain-and hon. Members can imagine hDW interested I should bein that-we were going to catch more criminals, that wouldbe very good news indeed. But I do not believe it _for aninstant ....

We seem to' be living, if I may say so, in an agewhere there is a tremendous temptation to' wish on to' thepeople by way of legislation, things the people do not wantat all. They do not want to' have these forces, If they didwant them, well and good .

Mr. Stokes (Ipswich): What we want from theHorne Secretary is a repeated assurance of what the LordPresident of the Council said in his memorable speech onOctnber 14, 1942:

"I have assured the House that it is not part of the purposeof these Regulations to establish a national police force."-[OFFICIAL REPnRT, October 14, 1942; Vol. 383, c. 1733-34.]

Mr. Marlowe (Brighton): ... 1 was glad to' notice thatthe hon, Member performed his usual acrobatic feat ofpretending to' speak for the Labour Party, although hisinnate common sense required him to support the case weare making ....

The case which the Government have tried to makeis non-existent, There is no reason for this Bill except atendencytowards the nationalisation of the police or towardsproducing a national police force. The power is taken inthe Bill and it can be put into operation. I am not contentwith merely an assurance that that will not be done, Ofcourse, I accept it from the present Horne Secretary ....

Mr. Kiriley (Bootie): '" Ron. Members in the Opposi-tion are horrified at the idea of a national service. Thepolice force is spread nut from Land's End to' john 0' Groats,but it is controlled by the Home Office. Every force inthe country is controlled from beginning to end by theHome Office. Although on our local councils we, imagineourselves to' be very important people if we can secureelection on the watch committee, we know, as members oftile Council, that however proud we may be of our ownborough police force, we can neither appoint nor dismissa police constable, we cannot decide how many superin-tendents, inspectors and sergeants we shall have, nor canwe decide what the conditions of service are to' be. Allthese things are controlled by the Home Office. It is a localservice in that we are permitted to pay nne-half the costof it, and we are not allowed to' do anything but discussfinancial matters, with which again we are not allowed to'interfere ....

Mr. Harold Roberts (Birmingham, Handsworth): '"speaking as a convinced local authority man, I felt veryuneasy when I heard him say that this was a non-partymatter. People of any experience of local government knowthat parties come and parties go. Sometimes we aregoverned by Liberals, sometimes Tories, sometimes Labourbut Whitehall never sleeps, and is for ever on the look-cutto' increase its authority at the expense of local authorities,To say that this is a non-party Measure was probably the

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most damning thing that could be said about it. . I sUPIX>sethat every person in this Chamber has within the past fewmonths fought a fiercely contested Election. Will anyonehere say that any person said a word for or against anyMeasure of this sort ? Were the electorate greatly excitedto know whether Dr nnt we would support such a PoliceBill as this? Of course they were not. The fact is thatthere is no demand for any Bill of the kind ..... . If only the Government could be induced not to' puton the Party Whips in this case, but to leave the matter to'an open vote, I should welcome it very much, because it isa very distasteful thing, for me, at any rate, to' have a partyissue made of what is really an issue concerning the inde-pendence that all patriotic Englishmen feel for their own(district ....

Lieut.-Colartel Derek W dlker-Smith (Hertford): .. , Itmay be that the right hon. Gentleman himself does notcherish any designs upon the independence of local authori-ties. I hope it is so, but he cannot bind posterity or evenhis immediate successors by his undertakings. I do not wantto' make invidious comparisons, but I do recall-and no doubtthe House will recall-that the vices of Nero and theirregularities of Commodus had the SCDpe they did' becauseof the machinery built up supposedly for good purposes byAugustus Caesar and Marcus Aurelius. [Laughter.] ...

Mr. S. O. Davies (Merthyr): ... He has dug up thisBill from somewhere in the archives of the Horne Office, butwhy-s-I am serious about this-he affronted this House, andparticularly his own party, by taking up nur time and com-pelling us to' apply our minds to' this Bill I do not know,in view of the expectations aroused, after the pledges wemade to' our people. FQr a Bill of this kind there is nota shred of justification ....

The town of Neath was mentioned by the right hon.Gentleman. That has nne of the small police forces whichare to be wantonly sacrificed by him. I happen to knowthe little town in detail. There is not a better, more cleanlyor decently conducted little town in these islands. Thereis nothing that can be said against the conduct of the people.After all, what do we want? Is it a vast, organised, soul-less machine or a high standard of conduct amongst thepeople of this country> They have it in that little town,with its own small police force, but, for some reason, myright hon. Friend will imply, "Y our conduct is not goodenough to' suit me; I must get for you a far more efficientpolice force, and that I shall have by merging yours with alarger one." I could say a great deal about the policeforces in these areas; but all I can dO'is to' make my personalfeelings clear on this matter.

The Secretary 01 State for the Home Department (Mr.Ede): You have succeeded in doing that.

Mr. Davies: I hope I have, but it rests with the righthon, Gentleman to' dissipate, if he can, the suspicions of aMember of the same party as himself, and one who was aMember of that party many years before he associated withit.

Churchill and RussiaA Reuter message (November 8) from Moscow records

the following from a diplomatic Receprion i-s-

Mr. Molotov, Soviet Foreign Secretary, recalled thatMr. Churchill once asked him in London when he would88

receive a decoration from the Soviet Government for hisservices to the Red Army.

"What services, I asked?" Mr. Molotov said, and Mr.Churchill replied, "In 1918, I was nne of the inspirers andorganisers of armed intervention in Russia. As a result ofthat intervention ynu have built up the magnificent RedArmy and look what it has done since."

Mr. Molotov then clinked glasses with Major RandolphChurchill, who is visiting Moscow, and said "SO' let us drinkto' Winstnn Churchill."

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