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Page 1: From Russia with loveconference.hitb.org/hitbsecconf2009kl/materials... · russian web forums to uncover the secrets of the russian hacker culture. This talk focuses on new threats

From Russia with love.exe

Underground Hacking Forums from Former East Bloc

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Outline

• Digging in a pile of trash

• Lingo

• Monetization

• Surprises

• Conclusions

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FY & grugq

Two lingual experts well known for their skillful tongues, the grugq

and fyodor have spent 6 months actively monitoring dozens of

russian web forums to uncover the secrets of the russian hacker

culture. This talk focuses on new threats and trends which are

discussed in the open on these sites,but are generally inaccessible

to the larger security community due to the language barrier.

Ladies! Ask about our private demonstrations! :D

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Intelligence Gathering

• Automated and manual analysis of publically available data

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Digging in a pile of trash

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Forumens

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Need for Automation

• Massive amounts of content

• Over 10 top level domains

Multiple sub forums

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Manually

• Natural language

• Too complicated for automated processing

• Misspellings, multiple spellings

• Unformatted postings

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Lingo

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What does this say?

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Can Google help?

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Good luck with that.

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Just FYI

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Hacker Slang

• Fenya - Russian prison slang

• Anglonims - English loan words

• Rhyming slang - Sounds like the English word

• Direct translation

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Scams & Schemes

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Wheres the money?

• Extortion

• Partnerka

• Services

• Goods

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Extortion

• Malware that demands payment

• Fake windows “warning”

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Extortion

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Partnerka

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Partnerka

• Credit card payment gateways

• Visa / Mastercard regulation compliant

• PCI compliant

• Partnerships with webmasters and other scum

• Percentage payouts for purchases

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Partnerka Payouts

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Virtual Currencies

• Online payment systems for service transactions

• Web Money

• Yandex Money

• eGold [dead]

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Conversion Gateway

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Web Money offices

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Goods

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Skype

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iTunes cards

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[websites go here]

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Identity Services

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Complete Package

!"# $%&#$'() *+,"- .)/%0.1&11"$'2!

3 4"56*&4' (7"#2':

1.8)14"($42- )44(online #"$'96)

2.:;< 4)%'a(=1&(1"- *252' 1) $10'2& $%&#$'( 1000$/6000$ 3 <>?@A-3".5"B1" 9(&*2C&12&

*252') +30$-)

3.D)%') 4"#"( (#*0 online #"$'96))

4.D"620 6)$6"%') #%"6)

5.Sim-ka

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How does it take to find a usable CC?

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5 seconds

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first link...

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and washing service..

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Traffic Generation

•Best Prices•Fast Stream•Best Infection Ratio

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how much to take down twitter?

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Avg. US$80 per diem

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Surprises

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why was twitter down?

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cuxumu

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Conclusions

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Conclusion

• Geeks not Gangsters

• Hacker culture is youth culture

• Profit driven