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Setting the Standards for Greater Manchester Neuro-Rehabilitation
Services
8th September 2016
A record of the event
Greater Manchester Neuro-Rehabilitation Operational Delivery Network
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September 2016
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Welcome
Rebecca Patel, patient and community engagement manager from the GM Service
Transformation Unit1 opened the evening by explaining the purpose of the event: to discuss the
GM neuro-rehabilitation service2 and part of the ongoing engagement and exchanges between
the service and people who use the service.
Rebecca explained:
we have listened to what people said was wrong with the service during events in
March 2016, as well as ongoing feedback and have considered how the service could
change to meet people’s needs
we want to share those proposals with you to check we are on the right track
we would like you to help us set the standards for the service – what you and other
people that use the service, expect from the service – you are the experts, we value
your wealth of experience of the service
the event will begin with an overview of what the service is like now, followed by
our proposals for the inpatient and community neuro-rehabilitation services. After
that we will break-out into small groups to find out what you think of the proposals
and hear from you about what the standards of the service should be
1 Further details about the GM Service Transformation Unit are available at www.transformationunitgm.nhs.uk
2 Further details about the GM Neuro-Rehabilitation Network are available at www.gmnrodn.org.uk
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The Service Now and the Problems: Dr Fayez Morcos, Clinical Lead for the GM
Neuro-Rehabilitation Network
Slide 1:
Dr Morcos re-iterated the purpose of the event
Dr Morcos provide examples of events that mean
people may need to access neuro-rehabilitation
services, for example a brain injury from an
accident or a person with a progressive
neurological condition living at home and
deteriorating. People may receive the
rehabilitation in the community from the
community neuro-rehabilitation service or in a
hospital/facility such as those in Greater
Manchester:
- the acute service at Salford Royal Hospital
- one of the four post-acute services at Floyd
Unit (Rochdale), Devonshire Unit
(Stockport), Taylor Unit (leigh infirmary)
and Ward 3 at Trafford General Hospital.
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The map of GM demonstrates where the 5
inpatient services are.
The map of GM shows the areas of GM without a
community neuro-rehabilitation service (those
areas highlighted with a box)
Dr Morcos described how people may move
through the GM neuro-rehabilitation service, as
well as the challenges faced by the current service
– as listed in the slide. One of the key challenges
was identified as ensuring people are in the right
place at the right time in order to receive the right
care.
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Dr Morcos illustrated the patient pathway by
describing two cases. The first, a patient who had a
good experience of the service - a gentleman in his
fifties who received rehabilitation in the Floyd unit,
had a trial period living in the Floyd unit flat with
his wife, prior to going home and accessing timely
rehabilitation from community services.
As national standards for managing patients with a
tracheostomy and/or low awareness have been
developed, we have identified that the post-acute
units are not meeting the standards. The standards
describe the minimum number of patients that a
service should look after in order for staff to
maintain skills, expertise and competencies. The
number of patients with a tracheostomy and/or
low awareness who require the post-acute service
in GM is quite small, which means that we need to
care for this group of patients in one setting to
maintain those skills, expertise and achieve the
standards.
The second case was of a gentleman in his fifties
who had a tracheostomy and low awareness and
due to these two factors mentioned above, he was
not able to access the post-acute services and
instead was transferred to a private unit to
undergo rehabilitation
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Proposal for the inpatient service: Dr Fayez Morcos
Dr Morcos explained that NHS England had
established the GM Neuro-Rehabilitation
Operational Delivery Network (ODN) to address the
challenges described in the next slide.
The work of the ODN is overseen by a Board which
includes senior clinicians and managers from all the
organisations in GM that provide neuro-
rehabilitation, as well as patients, commissioners
and a local authority representative.
Dr Morcos showed this slide to demonstrate how
the ODN working groups report to the Board.
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Dr Morcos gave a brief description of each of the
working groups.
Dr Morcos explained that one of the proposals to
improve the GM neuro-rehab inpatient service was
to have one central waiting list for accessing the
beds and to offer the first available bed to a
patient – even though this may not be their local
service.
Dr Morcos explained that the inpatient service is
not meeting the nationally recommended staffing
levels; impacting the intensity of therapy people
can receive, as well as discharge planning.
Standards are being developed for the information
that is available to patients and families, as a lack
of information currently available has been
highlighted by patients and families.
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The service review group was formed in 2015 to
review the inpatient service and recommend the
most appropriate configuration of the service..
The service review group proposed one service for
patients with prolonged disorder of consciousness
and/or tracheostomy (in the post-acute setting)
and for this service to be at Salford Royal where
the expertise for caring for these groups of
patients. The proposal is create a pathway for
these patients to go to Salford Royal.
The following questions were posed to Dr Morcos:
Q: Will centralising the service make it difficult for families to travel?
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A: Yes, people may have to travel further to visit their loved ones, but we need to centralise the
service in order to meet standards. When we posed the centralisation of the post-acute service
for patients with tracheostomy and/or prolonged disorder of consciousness to patients and
families in March 2016, almost everyone said they would be happy to travel to Salford Royal if it
meant they were receiving the expert care that they would need.
Q: Where do people with challenging behaviour go in your system?
A: First of all, there is a spectrum of challenging behaviour. Severe challenging behaviour is rare
but people with severe challenging behaviour are classed as such if they are hitting people,
persistently trying to leave the service etc.. Like people with tracheostomy, we need to
concentrate people with severe challenging behaviour so that they can access specialists and
specialist services. The proposal would be for people with severe challenging behaviour to
access a specialist rehabilitation service led by neuro-psychiatrists.
Q: Where will that severe challenging behaviour service be? Will it be inpatient?
A: Yes, inpatient. It is currently provided by the independent sector.
Q: I have concerns about the proposed severe challenging behaviour service – that you are
planning to put people in an institute.
A: Perhaps I didn’t explain it very well; Severe Challenging behaviour usually happens at an
early stage after a brain injury and people will likely recover. It is therefore a rehabilitation
service and whilst it would be led by neuro-psychiatry, the team would include neuro-
psychology, other therapists, nurses and neuro-rehabilitation medicine. The proposal was
worked up with a neuro-psychiatrist, several neuro-psychologists in GM, neuro-rehabilitation
consultants, nurses and therapists. I should emphasise that people with severe challenging
behaviours will only be in the facility on a temporary basis, with the team supporting the
person to recover and move on to home or another rehabilitation facility.
Q: Who falls into the slow-progression category?
A: There tend to be three categories of people who need neuro-rehabilitation:
i) Some people improve quite quickly and may then go home with further support from
community neuro-rehabilitation services.
ii) Some people are really impaired and do not progress and need nursing care in a facility
(e.g. a nursing home) or at home.
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iii) Some people continue to improve but that improvement may take a long time,
sometimes 1-2 years to slowly build up function. This group of patients is the ‘slow-
stream’ or ‘slow-progression’ category.
Q: This is a perfect opportunity to push neuro-rehabilitation up the national agenda? Are you
trying to raise the profile of neuro-rehabilitation nationally?
A: We are mainly working with Greater Manchester colleagues, but have links to Northwick
Park hospital in London; links in the North West (Liverpool, Preston, Stoke) and Birmingham;
links with the BSRM and the Royal College of Physicians; links with the GM neurological alliance
and other societies. I agree that we need real involvement and particularly want to listen to
people’s experience of the service.
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Proposal for the community neuro-rehabilitation service: Ashleigh Knowles
Ashleigh explained that the ODN had been tasked with
creating a model and specification for community
neuro-rehabilitation services and the presentation
explains the proposal that community neuro-
rehabilitation clinicians have come up with.
Ashleigh described accessing the service in brief.
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In this and the following slide, Ashleigh described the
principles of the service.
Ashleigh emphasized the need for the service to
commence treatment in timely manner and for
discharge to be timely; to eliminate the post-code
lottery that is evident in the current service; to
understand the impact of disability of people’s life-plan
and to work the patients and families to set goals that
are important to the patient and families.
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Ashleigh described the service operating hours and who
is eligible for the service.
Ashleigh described the rehabilitation process within the
community neuro-rehabilitation service.
The following questions were posed to Ashleigh:
Q: For people with MND, self-referral doesn’t always work as people don’t always know or
recognise when they are deteriorating. For progressive or palliative conditions should people
stay ‘on the books’ (i.e. in the service) and be reviewed?
A: The difficulty for clinicians is that if a person is ‘on the books’ clinicians have a duty of care. It
would need to be up to individual teams whether to keep people on their books or not.
Q: I’m from Bolton and we used to have a service that Ashleigh described, but we no longer
have this. Services that were promised are no longer available and the teams don’t have the
staff that they need.
A: the model being proposed advocates specialist triage so that appropriate people are
accessing the service. Most community neuro-rehabilitation teams have a third of the staff that
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they need – the new specification includes staffing levels which will be proposed to
commissioners.
Q: How do we sell this model to commissioners?
Rebecca Patel enquired whether the audience had heard of Devo-Manc and explained that
Devo-Manc means that it’s up to the people in Manchester to decide what’s best for
Manchester, including specialist services like neuro-rehabilitation.
Deb Troops, Greater Manchester Neurological Alliance, stated that they were worried that
CCGs don’t take brain injury seriously and asked how can the people in the room work together
to get the service described. How do we move neuro-rehabilitation up the agenda?
Rebecca Patel pledged to report what has been said at tonight’s event to the Joint
Commissioning Board for Greater Manchester and explain why neuro-rehabilitation is
important. Rebecca also explained that neuro-rehabilitation has been identified as a priority for
Greater Manchester which involves looking at the standards for the service, patient outcomes
and removing variation across GM.
Deb Troops stated that neuro-rehabilitation needs to stop been seen as a big expense and be
seen as value for money.
Julie Cunningham from North Manchester CCG, explained that N. Manchester CCG is one of the
three areas in GM without a community neuro-rehabilitation team and the CCG is in the
process of doing a case for change to take to the N. Manchester CCG Board, the proposal being
to introduce a community neuro-rehabilitation service in line with the specification that has
been developed.
An audience member from the South Manchester CCG area explained that there is no
community neuro-rehabilitation service in south Manchester and her husband has to go into
hospital to access neuro-physiotherapy. This was emphasised as a health inequality.
Rebecca Patel explained that such health inequality is exactly what Devo-Manc is trying to
address in order to remove any post-code lottery.
Wendy Edge from BASIC asked about the plans for vocational rehabilitation.
Answer from Ashleigh: Vocational rehabilitation is in the specification but we need to iron-out
what is needed for long-term vocational rehabilitation. There is a cohort of patients who need
long-term rehabilitation to help them return to work. Currently, the staffing levels that are
being proposed do not include resource to support long-term vocational rehabilitation.
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Deb Troops stated that the Greater Manchester Neurological Alliance is doing vocational
rehabilitation.
Q: Salford community neuro-rehabilitation team members spend a lot of time travelling and
hence clinical time is being wasted particularly when staff travel out of area to a person who’s
GP is in the Salford catchment. In the future, will people be seen according to resident or GP
postcode?
A: Commissioners will ultimately need to make that decision. Some commissioners are open to
it being patient choice about whether to access the service based on residential or GP
postcode.
Dr Morcos commented that community neuro-rehabilitation services should be local.
Ashleigh stated that she has pulled together some patient stories to share with commissioners.
Ashleigh also explained that the information that community neuro-rehabilitation teams collect
about their service varies considerably across GM and we need to build a culture of collecting
information in community services.
Q: It seems that you are interested in people who are going to get better, but people with
progressive conditions need support to have a quality of life and that support is lacking in GM.
What is happening with the neuro-palliative service?
A: The neuro-palliative service needs to be looked at. The difficulty is that it is being considered
as a general service, rather than specialist. Ashleigh continued, explaining that clinicians are
waiting to find out if commissioners will fund the community neuro-rehabilitation model.
Deb Troops expressed concern about the term ‘best value’. Neuro-rehabilitation isn’t
considered to be best value and it’s not about quality of life, it’s about people’s quality of living.
Other long term conditions don’t have to suffer like people with neurological conditions do. I’m
concerned that commissioners won’t get this model.
Ashleigh explained that commissioners have admitted that they don’t know a lot about neuro-
rehabilitation, but commissioners are keen to understand and thinks that there has been a shift
in understanding and a willingness to address the service.
Dr Morcos explained that we have had good dialogue with commissioners and commissioners
have been involved in developing the community neuro-rehabilitation model.
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Break-out Sessions
The audience broke into groups to consider previous feedback about the service, as well as
questions posed to understand peoples experience and expectations.
Information and Communication
Previous Feedback
When people move between services,
information doesn’t get passed on
Information about voluntary services
should be available on the unit
We want information about the
service, including what the different
professionals do
There should be a welcome pack for
patients which includes a plan for each
patient so we know what to expect, for
example a personalized care plan
Questions to consider
1. How will the service ensure that
feedback from patients improve the
service?
2. What information should be given to
patients and families at the point of
diagnosis?
3. What information should be given to
patients as part of a standard
information pack for discharge?
4. How should patients and carers be
communicated with?
5. How should the service ensure
information is communicated / shared
with the service people are being
transferred to?
6. What advice should be available e.g.
benefits, legal etc.
7. What else can we do to help people
e.g. online cognitive training
programmes, dietary advice etc.
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Feedback from the group
“When people move between services, information doesn’t get passed on”.
This needs to be somebody’s job
Within the service and between services, information needs to be shared
Need to know the process – e.g. a leaflet should be provided
Professionals need some picture and understanding of home situation – person’s goals
Better information transfer between diagnosis
How will the service ensure feedback from the patients improve the service?
Via patient societies and GMNA needs a staff member to be feasible and effective
What information should be given to patients and families at the point of diagnosis?
How to re-access
How to get other help – NHS, Voluntary, private
Self-referral
General Comments
We want to be able to cross boundaries that are set by Devolution - need to be able to
access services across boundaries
Qualitative information – stories not numbers
Accessing the Service
Previous Feedback
People are waiting too long to access
services
Specialist staff need to assess patients
There should be consistent clinical
decisions regarding eligibility to assess
the service
There should be a route back into
community services
Questions to consider
1. What would be an acceptable amount
of time to access inpatient and
community services?
2. Is it a clear pathway / patient journey?
3. Are there are any barriers / problems?
4. Is there anything missing?
5. What about transferring between
neuro-rehab services?
6. How quickly should baseline
assessments be undertaken?
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Feedback from the group
What would be an acceptable amount of time to access inpatient and community services?
It depends on the situation therefore expert clinician triage is vital
Immediately (on discharge) – no waiting as it could cause a loss of gains and it’s a false
economy
Nobody should be discharged without a rehab plan in place
The rehabilitation in the intermediate units need to be meaningful moving forward
Is it a clear pathway / patient journey?
No – it’s multi-faceted. E.g. Parkinson’s, MS, TBI, Stroke and there is such a lot of variety.
Community model looks good – 3 month review of telephone follow-up
Concern that voluntary sector are being used in place of neuro-professionals – voluntary
sector shouldn’t be a replacement but a compliment
Are there any barriers / problems?
Funding
Culture
Politics
Is there anything missing?
Opticians, pharmacists, dentist, accessible exercise, music therapy, funding for
voluntary sector compliment
Carers health and wellbeing – how do we train / assist them to be part of the workforce
Carers assessments
Adequate facilities
What about transferring between neuro-rehab services?
Patient notes need to travel with the patients – not being reassessed
Other Main Concerns and Issues
People relapse and need more input and not less – no time limits imposed - people
having to stop work to become carers costs the economy
Vocational rehab really needed from stage 1 and 2
Rehabilitation can save money – it needs investment
Model is good
Concerns about funding – services grossly underfunded
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Support / help for carers
Vocational rehabilitation from early on in the patient journey
There is pressure for therapists under:
o Under resourced
o Work at home / additional hours
o Unable to be robust
o Data to challenge = current challenge
Therapists need a network to support
NEEDS LED – may be immediate to 2 weeks and depends on need that needs to be
assessed by an experienced specialist / expert (triage). If patient is deteriorating whilst
working this is unethical.
General Standards
Timely comprehensive triage of need done by understanding what is real to the person
Quality of Service
Previous Feedback
There are large variations in
community services
There should be support for people to
access benefits when they are in
hospital
Health and social care needs to be
more coordinated
There should be support for people
going back to work
Sometimes patients are not being
treated with respect
People are not getting enough therapy
and there’s a lack of consistency in the
therapy (e.g. when staff go on leave,
when bank staff are used)
People can’t access the therapist need
(e.g. neuro-psychologist)
Questions to Consider
1. What is your experience of the
services?
2. What should patients expect from the
service?
3. What should the common standards
be?
4. How do we make sure this service
achieves what it is supposed to?
5. What about benchmarking against
other services?
6. How do we make this service the best
it can be for patients? (bearing in mind
within the finances we have available)
7. What do you like about the model?
8. How will it benefit patients and staff?
9. How will it feel for patients and their
carers / families?
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Feedback from the group
What is your experience of the services?
Not good
Inappropriate
Poor
What should patients expect from the service?
Definitely access to someone who can give benefit advice
Fair treatment
What should the common standards be?
Communication across teams
Appropriate service
Fair
Geographically equal
How do we make sure this service achieves what it is supposed to?
Work with DWP who will able to provide the benefit information
Dialogue with commissioners that’s effective
How do we make this service the best it can be for patients? (bearing in mind within the
finances we have available)
See commissioners
What do you like about the model?
Holistic whole care team
How will it benefit patients and staff?
More quality of lives
Feedback from the Break-Out Session
Rebecca Patel asked each table to feedback one expectation/standard for the service
Table 1: There should be clear, two-way communication between health care professionals and
patients/carers
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Table 2: There should be timely, comprehensive triage by an expert practitioner, in conjunction
with patients to understand what’s real and important to them.
Table 3: People should be able to access community neuro-rehabilitation services before being
discharged from hospital
Participant Pledges
As part of the event, participants were asked to make a personal or organisational commitment
to the work the neuro-rehabilitation network, to ensure this work continues. Below is a
selection of pledges from the evening.
Be a great Chair of GMNA
Deb Troops
I would like to represent patients and service
users to commissioners
Theresa Travis
Deb Troops
Keep pressing for maintenance therapy for people with
long term conditions
Feedback to GMNR ODN own user evaluation of
hydrotherapy in Bolton
Marie Oxtoby
I pledge to present your views to the decision makers of Devolution Greater
Manchester and circulate your thoughts and ideas to them for comment
Rebecca Patel
To share details of the event on the website so
that people who couldn’t attend have the
opportunity to comment and share their
experiences
Zoe Coombe
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Next Steps
Develop a set of standards from your feedback and insight
Enable your insight to develop the service specifications
Speak with commissioners
Report back to you in four months-time about the plans for the service