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archived as http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Burisch_13.pdf

more of Dan Burisch is at http://www.stealthskater.com/Burisch.htm

note: because important web-sites are frequently "here today but gone tomorrow", the following was

archived from http://solder.ath.cx/Burisch/interviews/glossary on February 4, 2004 . This is

NOT an attempt to divert readers from the aforementioned web-site. Indeed, the reader should

only read this back-up copy if it cannot be found at the original author's site.

Internet Chats/Interviews regarding Dan

Burisch #7 - DonDep (drbknows) & 'Peace;/'preservedestiny'

November 29 2003

-Glossary - alphabet: insider slang for a government agent, from the use of acronyms as titles of government

departments

aDNA: ancient DNA

Area 51: Facility at Papoose Lake

BCW: Biological & chemical warfare

bird: insider slang for alien

cherubim:

crossbridge: A group of 32 cells (8 tetrads) formed from A GP which extends from the target cell to a

secondary cell. The crossbridge is associated with a shiva linga

CotM: Committee of the Majority. A Scottish rite Masonic based committee of 33 men operating with

U.S. and other governments

DCTP: Doctrine of Convergent Timeline Paradox. In this doctrine consequences of time travel are

stacked in reality like a stack of cards

DMT: a hallucenogen ?

Dulce facility: Facility at LANL east of Area 51. "My experience during the time I stayed there was

horrifying. You know, when you hear human beings

screaming in pain?" - DrB

EBE: Extraterrestrial Biological Entity

Eloah Va Daath:

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HAARP:

GP: Ganesh Particle; emerges from an activated quatrz crystal and travels down an electromagnetic

river to the target cell. Once attached, one end of GP opens up like a flower and the shiva

linga

J-Rod: A class of EBE from the Reticulum area. Chi' iielah -- the particular J-Rod associated with DrB -

-was housed in a pressurized hydrogen Clean Sphere at Level 5 of S4, and had a

degenerative neurological condition. The appearance of the J-Rods is similar to that of the

"grey" aliens recovered from Roswell.

Land of Enchantment: insider slang for the state of New Mexico

LANL: Los Alamos National Labs

Lotus Protocol: A genesis mechanism associated with the Tree of Life

Lotus Project: a subset of the Starflower project

Majestic 12: A group of scientists and scientific advisors who work for the CotM

MJ: Majestic 12

Patchwork: The controlled release of information to the public.

Pearls of Brahma: a group of viruses emitted from the GP on the side offosite the shiva linga

Project Aquarius:

Rancher: George W Bush

Raindancer: a compartmentalized project within the chemtrail project

S4: Sector 4 facility outside of Area 51

Section D: biological tinkering facility

Shiva linga: The tube that emerges from the opened GP to penetrate another cell

Starflower Project: A project which deals the effects of extraterrestrial interactions throughout history

and today

Sweetness: insider slang for the Dulce facility

Tiphereth:

T9 treaty:

Vishnu Schist: Source of quartz crystal in the Frenchman Mountains, Nevada

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Voynich Manuscript: An encoded document written by Francis Bacon.

Watertown: insider slang for Area 51

Yellow Book: A book showing possible futures

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note: because important web-sites are frequently "here today but gone tomorrow", the following was

archived from

http://solder.ath.cx/Burisch/interviews/html/Interview_dondep_preservedestiny_29_11_03.html

on February 4, 2004 . This is NOT an attempt to divert readers from the aforementioned web-

site. Indeed, the reader should only read this back-up copy if it cannot be found at the original

author's site.

Internet Chats/Interviews regarding Dan

Burisch #6 - DonDep (drbknows) & 'Peace'/'preservedestiny'

November 29 2003

[note: refer to GLP_01.doc, GLP_02.doc, GLP_03.doc for background on the 'Peace' character]

I needed to redact some sensitive issues first, but it was not requested that I keep the entire conversation

confidential. Ponder this for awhile.......

preservedestiny: Is this Dondep?

drbknows: It is.

preservedestiny: At the midnight hour, very appropriate. With what may I assist?

drbknows: Most times I'm conscious of time. It's 12 up, before, or after my Creator reminding me with

a wink. These pics of the exchange with Chiiielah …

preservedestiny: Well, we had a bit of a mix up, a 'friend' and myself!

drbknows: Is 'A Friend' on your "side"?

preservedestiny: Didn't quite expect them to be handed out.

drbknows: A matter of timing, then?

preservedestiny: Yes, an op in Cali.

drbknows: So same team, different timeline? Does that mean they should be withheld? The caption

on "Embrace" leads me to believe this is from the IMINVSBL faction.

preservedestiny: Not really. He interceded on our behalf when we were being threatened by the

rogues. He swiped the images and thought he had clear instructions.

drbknows: Is IMINVSBL with these "rogues"?

preservedestiny: Yes, he is an op with them.

drbknows: These rogues want what -- the Lotus early and a bump-up in the abduction rate. Correct?

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preservedestiny: Among other tidbits.

drbknows: and are they for or against disclosure?

preservedestiny: They are for disclosure in so far as it is concerned with Dan. They feel they could get

better access to him that way.

drbknows: Or is it only a matter of disclosing the "enemy" vs. disclosing the "true conflict"?

preservedestiny: The "true conflict" is between mankind and time, I feel.

drbknows: That leaves me speechless. There are, however, this rogue faction and your team, correct?

preservedestiny: I wouldn't characterize myself as a 'team' member. Perhaps a 'committee' member.

drbknows: They think that by letting the light shine on the Lotus project, they can get to him early on

and help prevent the catastrophe from being worse than it has to be?

preservedestiny: They feel they have a line into the truth of history. They are mistaken.

drbknows: So, I have the pleasure/responsibility of talking directly to a CotM member?

preservedestiny: While the group is no longer functioning, I think that would be an accurate

assessment. Yes. To the alphabet ops present: this will trace back to the Lotus

desk, so you may be just better to call them and ask for helpdesk support!

drbknows: What is the "truth of history" as both they and you see it?

preservedestiny: There are many truths, sir. You have, as I have come to understand, an adequate

assessment of the issues.

drbknows: And why are they mistaken?

preservedestiny: The future has as many books of history as the present.

drbknows: My assessment includes a Planet X scenario, lurking over all these proceedings, and on that

issue I am not clear. But to the point of the "many books of the future", history of the past

is merely a matter of perspective, not a matter of choice. Is that true of the future, also?

preservedestiny: We are making choices daily. Some are choosing to fight changes that would wreck

our future, others are trying to blunder in and move where angels fear to tread.

drbknows: What changes would wreck our future?

preservedestiny: Our line dropped. Must be my sec watching. Please repeat your last entry.

drbknows: I asked what changes would wreck our future.

preservedestiny: The group causing difficulty wishes to not only right the wrongs that led to their

predicament, but more. The "serpent" as Dan calls it.

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drbknows: Not only restoring what was lost/taken away of our DNA, but more yet? As in what?

preservedestiny: They wish to restore their neurological well-being. The 'more' regards the Ed(i)n

scenario.

drbknows: Also, I did want to address the PX scenario because I know it is the most controversial

subject, coloring all of these collective efforts. Do the "others" want to return us to Eden?

preservedestiny: As I understand them, they wish to restore the time before the Fall.

drbknows: Now, you are suggesting what has been indicated before, that while Lucifer means "bringer

of light", this should be a good thing. Apparently it is not, and our own God wants us to

remain in a certain dumbed-down state. Is this an accurate assessment of the Luciferian

agenda?

preservedestiny: Good question, that. No, in part. the Illuminists have their agenda, we ours. We are

not Illuminists.

drbknows: At one time, Dan had indicated to certain individuals that he understood this to be the 5th of

6 times around before we get it right.

preservedestiny: I don't have a reference in front of me regarding the number of times and I am not

certain that it is so. Regarding the Lucifer situation, their agenda proscribes their

enlightenment as the "Truth of God". I do not agree with that assessment.

drbknows: Which is why the job of sorting out good guys and bad guys is so hard. Are the "good guys"

in favor of keeping us "dumb"? As in it is too late to go back to the time before the Fall

and better to plod along in this 2-dimensional DNA?

preservedestiny: I would regard myself as a "good guy". Sometimes. I don't believe that the

population would have difficulty regarding these issues, for several reasons.

drbknows: They believe, then, that by "illuminating" all, this is the will -- or Truth -- of God? Not that

it is right or wrong, but is that their position?

preservedestiny: It is their position in so far as they filter their regard for the TRUTH through a

Luciferian strainer.

drbknows: So you believe the population could be prepared to accept the facts of the situation,

eventually? And the "Others" also believe in the population knowing, though for different

reasons perhaps? So it has nothing to do with whether this Illusion is exposed, but to what

ends?

preservedestiny: The path being followed by the rogue group only wishes limited exposure of Dan, for

the reasons outlined above. The population's exposure to these extraordinary issues

would be self-limiting. Many will not grasp them. Their lives are framed within a

certain space. These are some of the reasons for the necessary maintenance of

Domestic Tranquility.

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drbknows: Your moniker is revealing -- I presume it is related to the infamous Project Preserve

Destiny.

preservedestiny: The AKA is appropriate. The spirit to illuminate on the part of the Luciferian

Illuminists is directed in the manner that the name 'Lucifer' would suggest.

drbknows: So is it the spirit with which this desire to "illuminate" is represented, more so than a

philosophy?

drbknows: I understand that more-and-more wryly as it becomes evident with each passing day.

However, a substantial number of the population -- including present company on this

thread -- have inquiring minds that can trouble the status quo. Which we don't wish to do,

avoiding unnecessary confusion.

preservedestiny: Populations such as the ones in which we reside have, these days, a built-in

equilibrium that will be maintained by the authorities.

drbknows: But you infer the word Lucifer to suggest, what? Fire & brimstone? Reinforcing ignorance

for the purpose of exploitation?

preservedestiny: No, that is not what I am suggesting.

drbknows: Okay, then. Can you clarify what you are suggesting?

preservedestiny: I neither ascribe to the "horns and pitchforks" nor do I suggest that the reinforcement

of ignorance is their directive.

preservedestiny: They win over nations by giving them what they ask, then playing them one against

each other.

drbknows: The imagery can go, but the bottom line is what is the effect of their agenda? To enforce

conflict or cooperation?

preservedestiny: The Illuminists enforce both, create alliances, then play one against the other to better

their own positions, many-a-time having representatives on both sides so they

cannot lose.

drbknows: As the entities described in Oahspe have down constantly through the ages, as when Baal

and Ashtaroth played chess with each other via Greece and Persia?

preservedestiny: It is not my way to play within that allegory.

drbknows: As in AT&T contributing mightily to both political teams, I understand that. But we are

dealing with higher powers here, and this conflict-encouragement is another form of

exploitation, and is played for higher stakes.

preservedestiny: So it goes.

drbknows: Yes, I understand that your philosophy in that allegory would be to take a stand with one

side or the other, not playing both against the middle.

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preservedestiny: My position would regard playing either side a failure of personality.

drbknows: But one of your cohort indicated that they felt happiness in doing something for the human

race FOR ONCE. This is pregnant with implication.

preservedestiny: The field is replete with persons that have waffled.

drbknows: Okay, the "sides" are artificially constructed then, correct? No need for sides, if all play

together cooperatively.

preservedestiny: They are no more artificial as any other bargaining units.

drbknows: Waffled in the face of the realization the Cover-up and Illusion is so preponderant? So

overwhelming, and the public so compartmentalized and kept comfortably numb?

preservedestiny: I would mind them to also understand that what they know is limited as well.

drbknows: Wait, did you say any bargaining units are artificial?

preservedestiny: I said that the sides are no more artificial as what bargaining units are regarded. They

are quite real. Both sides are quite entrenched.

drbknows: To know that one's level of awareness is quite inferior is the first step to increasing

awareness, yes. Sides -- yes. The sides you speak of are real, one side creating artificial

"sides" to pit some against others.

preservedestiny: Unfortunate. Once those sides are created, their reality is as real as any entrenched

positions a nation may take.

drbknows: Is one side "entrenched" in the cause of universal brotherhood? Universal cooperation

and increasing enlightenment as to a more clearer picture of reality?

preservedestiny: Universal brotherhood, yes. I can say that we continue to fight for that cause. Again,

public knowledge is self-limiting.

drbknows: A nation may take strong positions regarding what it believes is in its best interests of its

people, hopefully in concert with other nations.

preservedestiny: If you are awaiting agreement, given.

drbknows: The "Illuminati", of which I understand you to be talking about, has had family dynasties

that have created scenarios and enflamed them into reality so as to profit materially. Is this

correct? That this "Side" is profiting from chaos, confusion, death and destruction? These

are, then, the Luciferians?

preservedestiny: Yes.

drbknows: Thank you for clarifying. Now, the situation is somewhat different than in the past, correct?

preservedestiny: Different in what way?

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drbknows: Up until this point, the "side" you are with has gone along with the dictates of these

Luciferians because the other choice of truly educating the public was too monumental a

task. And so everyone basically kept things quiet to avoid panic, confusion, disbelief, etc.

which is normally what the other side thrives on but would be at risk if the policy of

obfuscation were to be dismantled.

preservedestiny: That is not a correct characterization.

drbknows: Okay, can you correct me then?

preservedestiny: I, for one, have always been a representative -- within our committee -- that has

supported "measured public disclosure" to include the struggle against the

Illuminists.

drbknows: Or, are things only "different" because a PX scenario is in the offing? Or a stargate

welcoming committee is preparing for some major activation?

preservedestiny: Neither. I believe that the PX issue was accurately described by Dan. As for those

rings of mutual fate, they are falling like apples on Newton's head.

drbknows: Or perhaps they are inextricably tied in. Neither? As in, neither scenario is impending?

Dan described PX as being "out there" and did not dissuade us from the fact it is being

addressed.

preservedestiny: The presence of the rift gates has been accurately described by him. The rings are

falling under our control.

drbknows: Actually I don't recall his description of the "rift gates".

preservedestiny: He calls them natural stargates I believe.

drbknows: The "rings"? These are the stargates of which we think the other one in Iraq was just

discovered. And you-know-who went to personally verify?

preservedestiny: The "rings" refers to man-made devices.

drbknows: Was a "ring" just discovered then in ancient Babylon?

preservedestiny: Perhaps present day Iraq.

drbknows: Thank you. Leading back/forward in time? Or to a distant part of the universe?

preservedestiny: The "rings" have been used by dictators for linear travel. They have not mastered

time issues.

drbknows: I understood time-travel to be able to be conducted only by universal-brotherhood entities

anyway; so Saddam could travel to perhaps Mars or beyond. Is that correct?

preservedestiny: I would hope Mars to be his destination -- thin air there!

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drbknows: Wasn't that what Dan had discovered? That the ruins of Inca city, Mars were in fact left by

a future civilization that Saddam or other "dictators" -- as you put it -- could have founded?

preservedestiny: Saddam -- hardly. His psychotic views may lend themselves to fantasies about

ancient Babylon. But that is as close as he came. The statement about ruins is

correct in so far as time-line presumptions.

drbknows: So, no Saddam. Wouldn't have sat very well anyway. So what dictators?

preservedestiny: That would be unwise. Saddam will suffice for this interview.

drbknows: Dictators from our future? Trying to prepare the way to come to our time and take us over?

preservedestiny: No, present and recent past.

drbknows: Dictators that could potentially use these stargates? Use them against our past?

preservedestiny: Use them at all. That is really of little concern. We are not fully prepared to face the

consequences of having them on the face of this planet whatsoever.

drbknows: In other words, go back and kill FDR, too, as with JFK? And provoke a whole other reality

we could be dealing with on another timeline?

preservedestiny: Letters are well known. I shy from them in modesty.

drbknows: Having "them" on the face of the planet. Hmmmm.... yet you say they are dictators from

our present and recent past?

preservedestiny: The rings pose a threat by their very existence, used either by impassioned dictators

or well-meaning scientists.

preservedestiny: Please excuse me for a minute.

preservedestiny: T hank you, my assistant informs me we have drawn the attention of 2 agencies and 1

other former member. Popularity has so many prices.

drbknows: Of course .... am thankful for this opportunity to communicate in any case. While you are

away, I will posit the following scenario: a "well-meaning scientist" could theoretically

misuse one of these man-made stargates and go back into time with a moral manifesto

beyond his normal purview and take more with him than a KB-50 to Greenland.

drbknows: I must ask; are you the famous "J" referred to?

preservedestiny: Not so veiled innuendo. No, I am his associate and to his junior.

drbknows: Since they must know who your IP is from by now, how can I address you other than

Preserve Destiny which you haven't yet fully explained? Unless the past 10 minutes have

clarified it.

preservedestiny: Only a handful of present day scientists can negotiate the time issue. They only see

that it is coming from Lotus. To drop the ball is to fail at preserving our destiny.

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drbknows: So, a member of the Maji as well as the Committee. I feel honored. "Only a handful can

negotiate the time issue" meaning negotiate the reasoning? Or the actual stargate trips?

preservedestiny: It has. It comes down to allowing information to creep out, to reach the right sources,

to protect other information, and disable the stargate potential.

preservedestiny: Only a handful can negotiate the machine to timelines. Those persons are well-

secured.

drbknows: Under what kind of scenarios would it be considered to "drop the ball"? And what can we

do to help as our collective consciousness is coming to grips with all this?

preservedestiny: From my point of view, "dropping the ball" constitutes many things that cannot be

afforded public discussion, save to say allowing this group to fall under the control

of the rogue group.

drbknows: So you mean not only to disable the mechanics of this time-traveling stargate issue, but also

to use your power to prevent these "Iluminists" from pitting us one nation -or- race against

another?

preservedestiny: Dan does not have the ability to negotiate these machines. He is a Life Scientist. I

may only hope to help solve the issue of the rings. The Luciferian issue goes well

beyond any one man.

drbknows: So all that will learn of this, will know that Dan is "secured"´ for his own -- and our, --

protection? That if you answered 'yes' to fostering brotherhood, you answer 'yes' to holding

Dan for his own protection?

preservedestiny: It is their position to ask for trust, not ours. We will fight on behalf of freedom and

safety regardless of the public belief/disbelief in the presentation of our cause. We

know we are 'right'. The rogue group is only wishing public disclosure to suit its

purposes regarding the Bacon Document and the 2112 code.

drbknows: How would the rogue group misuse a publicly-displayed consciousness based on the

brotherhood of man to secure something that is opposed to it? Or, if possible, can you

make the rogue case for them (Devil's Advocate) so that we understand better why we

should trust your faction?

drbknows: The rings, then; who built them originally? And is J. J. Hurtak involved?

preservedestiny: Aside from his correctness concerning quantum processes, I am sure not. The

original designers are our future who presented them as the Djed pillar to the past.

preservedestiny: The designs have been copied and modified since then.

drbknows: So there is a future that is set.

preservedestiny: No.

drbknows: Copied in the present day?

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preservedestiny: They have been copied since the time of ancient Sumer.

drbknows: Again, as I struggled to understand the DCTP, for a material reality to exist in our reality

coming from our future, someone had to be born that then had to foster a certain progeny,

meaning they had to meet so-and-so, etc.

drbknows: And the Sumerians are from our future, as well as our past. Resetting in 2012 to a zero-time

reference to allow for this continuum....

preservedestiny: That is true, from local bars to the not-so-local stars.

drbknows: LOL!

preservedestiny: The extraordinary leaders are from the future- the gods as they have become known.

drbknows: Which is where the MiBs come in, no? They have to make sure certain so-and-so's go from

bar-to-star etc.

preservedestiny: The clothed ones that you call MIBs are JRods.

drbknows: Known as "Gods" only because they truly have the benefit of hindsight, in extremis....

preservedestiny: Yes.

drbknows: No! The same ones that threatened BJ and countless others in the modern era? We

understood they were non-physical, using cadavers as suits.

preservedestiny: They have undergone a neurological exchange process that I do not fully understand.

This exchange process is similar to what you are aware happened to Dan at an early

age. They are wearing the dead. They are 'rogue'.

drbknows: Was there a clause in the T9 treaty that delineates how, when, where, and why these entities

appear? Is there truly a distinction between 3D and 4D reality, then, that would help

explain this quandary?

preservedestiny: I would refer you to physicists/metaphysicians regarding the dimensional issues.

There is such a codicil.

drbknows: "Wearing the dead". Square that with being J-Rod, please? I ask because of the

information that came from Dr. Michael Wolf, and the strictures placed on the ETs he was

familiar with. Can we safely say these were one-and-the-same with Dan's J-Rod? Pre-

1940?

preservedestiny: I would prefer a more exact description of what you may want me to comment upon

concerning Dr. Wolf. No, not pre-1940.

drbknows: Just trying to understand why they must use early-20th century "bodies" as suits.

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preservedestiny: Your soul is human, and you happen to be wearing a human body produced

somewhere in the 20th

. century. Their soul is likewise human and they are wearing

a body produce in the early 20th

century.

drbknows: And of course trying to understand if their presence is that which was described by

IMINVSBL in the post regarding Harry Burisch and how "they" maintain the timelines.

preservedestiny: Since the 1940s the world has adopted a generalized view to support globalism and

human rights. They disagree with that view and have taken the bodies of those that

disagreed as well. They overstated themselves, as previously said.

drbknows: Okay, thank you for the pre-1940 insight.

drbknows: Dr. Wolf interacted with a particular ET which he said "escaped" and came to his apartment

in disregard of the treaty. And Dr. Wolf hid 'him'/'it', helping him-- because it had some of

his "substance" in his genetic makeup -- escape into the wider human world. Was this a

hybrid, the non-human half of which was J-Rod?

drbknows: But it doesn't explain their reasoning behind their belief which limits them to human bodies

from before that time.

preservedestiny: We can continue to 02:00, then I must rest. Once you eclipse 60, tiring is a way of

life.

drbknows: I thank you for the time you have granted. As I was saying, I try to always put the "other"

side's belief system into the balance because all reasoning entities do everything for a

reason, even if wrong.

preservedestiny: They have made that choice as a matter of alliance with genocidal concepts. I would

prefer not addressing that Dr. Wolf issue.

drbknows: Accepted. Dr. Burisch is quite the subject without any other doctors cluttering a

phenomenal landscape as it is.

drbknows: So, they wish for genocide? As in the Master Race concepts?

preservedestiny: This is why they fight to solve their problems but have no want to solve the

possibility of impending catastrophe. They regard the Orion beings as inferior, we

as well.

preservedestiny: The J-rod felt as much.

drbknows: They are not clones, then, as some suggest? They believe the Orion beings -- which are

much more like us physically -- as inferior?

preservedestiny: The rogues are most certainly oriented to cloning. Yes, that is true.

drbknows: "...but have no want to solve the possibility of impending catastrophe." I am trying to

"wrap my brain around that" still ...

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preservedestiny: If the catastrophe occurs, they will be in direct line from the human race, justifying

their evolution and self concept of superiority.

drbknows: "If the catastrophe occurs" ... this is what is troubling me. Us.

preservedestiny: Troubles all of us.

drbknows: Impending. Is it possible it can be avoided? If so, how? And when is it alleged to occur?

preservedestiny: It is completely avoidable. Many are spilling blood as we finger keyboards in relative

luxury. Estimates and descriptions vary from 2010 to 2014.

drbknows: You understand, I have to fit the Zetatalk message in the scenario. Either it is disinfo or

true. And for a massive and complex effort -- allegedly with the blessing of Majestic, with

the stated goal of helping the common man -- I have to put it into context. This is

measured against the end of this timeline at the end of 2012 or thereabouts.

preservedestiny: From a singular point of view, the rings are the issue. There are wider issues I am

sure, but to discuss them at this time would add little to the understanding of the

problems.

Ms. Lieder is well known. The Mayan processional data is correct. It is our

calendars that are faulty.

drbknows: So did 'Rancher' go to Iraq because of a "ring"? Is the military effort over there really for

that primary purpose? It would do well for us to have a clear understanding. There

could be a greater good that would resonate with us if, in fact, if true. ['Rancher'

refers to George W. Bush]

preservedestiny: Carefully, we walk our paths.

drbknows: Looks like I should quote Dan ("Nicky knows!") if I understand that emoticon correctly!

preservedestiny: Indeed he would,=. Disgruntled man, but faithful 'til the end.

drbknows: So it is worth besmirching our good name and reputation around the globe just to save it

from a far worse horror??

preservedestiny: "Besmirching" pays credence to today. The history books read differently.

drbknows: After all this, I simply can't comprehend the present-day "resident" being regarded as a true

'hero' to the humanity of our future.

preservedestiny: He has his agenda. 'Hero' -- doubtful.

drbknows: So have you yourself seen these pages from Yellow Book from the future? And if so, why

are they such a moving yet immutable target?

preservedestiny: Yes, I have the burden to have seen them. They are mutable.

drbknows: Meaning they can appear differently every time you read it/watch it?

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preservedestiny: The images you have concerning them are accurate in presentation and context no

matter how poor-of-quality. They appear as the one who presents it understands it.

drbknows: But only released prematurely? A bit overeager?

preservedestiny: The embrace image is accurate as well and presents a peek into a time issue. I think

that anyone asking into the future is over-eager.

drbknows: And that is all? The time issue can change whenever it is observed again? That image was

sealed by the picture, but the book may present it differently the next time it is read?

preservedestiny: The book as you refer it is a directed consequence of an person presenting it from the

future. It is a hologram.

drbknows: Presented by one person? A different person, every time? No 2 images alike?

preservedestiny: If perspectives are shared, time lines are accurately described, the pages are similar.

drbknows: Your last comment answered my next unspoken one....which is, what is it you know of me

and/or my role?

preservedestiny: In 1981, Dan requested to know of a futurist of his date of death.

drbknows: Did he learn of it?

preservedestiny: He received an answer: March, 2003. The futurist declared that he would live to

2028. He died in 1994. Dan lives, wiser I think not to ask such questions.

drbknows: Let me get that straight. He said Dan would die in 2003. Yet he -- the futurist -- died in '94

although he said he would live to 2028.

preservedestiny: In March, Dan was horribly attacked by a person trying to kill him. Lying in the

hospital, I came to his side. This was March 28.

drbknows: So there was an attempt. And to the best of your knowledge, it was not the MiBs trying to

"maintain a timeline", no?

preservedestiny: He came to understand why such questions should not be asked. I can assure you of

that. Yes, you understand correctly concerning the reader. We have been unable to

locate the assailant -- that says something potent.

drbknows: An admonition then to not desire too much knowledge about our future lest we be conned

into believing something that may never come to pass.

preservedestiny: Well said. Many so-called secret societies have bought into that fallacy.

preservedestiny: I am aware that Mr. William Hamilton is in possession of photographs of Dan after

the attack. Dan would not want them released.

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drbknows: And it appears your group or higher-ups in (what? A higher authority yet than the CotM?)

another group have been mislead for a long time about the future? So-called immutable

future?

preservedestiny: To the issues at hand: there was no higher authority than our committee, save the

Eternal.

drbknows: I would think that if that were the case, it would have been self-evident for some time that if

the timeline can be broken once, it should have been broken long ago and the dread fear

released …

preservedestiny: Every attempt to do so has met with failure.

drbknows: Does the Eternal have a "representative" you interface with? An executive Gabriel or what-

have-you?

preservedestiny: Nothing like I have seen visiting your adopted scientist. I think I rest easier with that

status.

drbknows: Every attempt? ..."The being clothed in light", as was said??

preservedestiny: Every attempt. That one processed photograph doesn't do it justice. All -- save one -

- who have met it tremble.

drbknows: You rest easier with what status? My inference to Gabriel? And "save one" … who is?

Ah, must be Dan himself! He can walk comfortably with the angel! Correct?

preservedestiny: I rest easier not being the subject of such visitations. And even Dan knows 'respect'

now, but short of trembling. He seems to have some kind of kinship with it. It's

because he is still a boy in many ways.

drbknows: Hard to believe Dan didn't know respect before from the way you phrased it. But yes, we

must all remain "childlike" at heart, not "childisih".

preservedestiny: During the first visit about a year-or-so ago, it walked in on him and instructed him.

drbknows: And how is it that Dan and I were meant to communicate, then? Was that in a 'timeline' that

you were aware of also? "Instructed him"? That's great, to talk with the angels!

preservedestiny: "Instructed" means helped him to his face and spoke with him in Hebrew, a dialect

he speaks with it but can't remember. It is a dialect we cannot very well decode.

drbknows: I take it this being was one of the Kerubim/Cherubim?

preservedestiny: Dan will not say.

drbknows: Then it was not meant for you to decode if what you say is true.

preservedestiny: This is why the wise among us have stopped asking.

drbknows: But it did "talk" in the classic sense? Oral vibrations?

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preservedestiny: Yes, to the infrasound tune of breaking glass. The visitations always start in the same

manner. A low rumbling, followed by security running for the hills. Light fills the

room, then an appearance of crystal ice with flame around it, circling it.

drbknows: Perhaps you too should return to being child-like -- though wise -- and lighten your soul! A

picture of security heading for the hills would be quite convincing! LOL

preservedestiny: It's quite extraordinary!

drbknows: It sounds like the descriptions in Oahspe, to the letter.

preservedestiny: You have the expression of one of them in the image -- gaping.

drbknows: I would marvel, but it isn't beyond my capacity to accept. Quite the opposite. I was still

reviewing them when returning to this conversation.

preservedestiny: As for my return, I plan that at 0800 with a ride.

drbknows: A ride to where?

preservedestiny: The angel is over-processed by an over-processing expert. Near

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. But now that I have said it...

drbknows: Eastern Time, then?

preservedestiny: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

drbknows: Must be somewhere over Eurasia, yes?

preservedestiny: Try xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

drbknows: I am getting requests to help determine that I am talking to the genuine article.

drbknows: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Of course!

preservedestiny: How should that be proven?

drbknows: American military facility...

preservedestiny: And my staying alive?

drbknows: My compatriots know even less than I -- most of them anyway! Perhaps something that

only someone truly familiar with this story would know.

drbknows: Do you fear for your life? I wouldn't want to jeopardize it, after all!

preservedestiny: Kind sir, when you traverse this lifestyle it is always a concern. I jeopardize it -- you

have no power to do so. What area would you like me to exemplify?

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drbknows: A reference was made by one of your side about 2-or-3 weeks ago inferring that there was a

need to disclose something regarding the Florida Keys, that there was a subset of a program

that was in charge of this. : Can you tie a loose end or 2 together, such as who is Dr Severs?

preservedestiny: If I tell you of his schedule? I see, you want the goods! Nicholas.

drbknows: The good and nothing but the good! Singular is fine. It is the Nicolas we have figured on?

preservedestiny: The information by a compatriot concerning Britain is accurate. However I would be

careful when pointing fingers as there is more than one. We must steer away from

certain documents.

drbknows: And is related to bird (alien) and clock (DCTP) issues? What we were concerned with, but

both in the microbiological field?

preservedestiny: Yes.

drbknows: Should "we also steer clear of certain documents" such as? If they only hurt our cause, we

can be reasoned with. But reasoned with, not merely cautioned.

preservedestiny: Implications are a concern to everyone, even me. Much power may be found in that

location and I am not immune to accidents, please. I support your views about birds

and clocks. Does that help?

drbknows: Yes, it helps immensely.

drbknows: Understood. But is Nicky also of the same belief and perspective as Dan?

preservedestiny: No. They diverge widely.

preservedestiny: Shall I prove his schedule? But you would be entreated not to make it public, aside

from distance viewing.

drbknows: So, he doesn't agree with the pro-disclosure stance Dan has taken?

preservedestiny: No, he agrees (for his own reasons) but is a Luciferian.

drbknows: Yes, I will maintain confidence where requested.

preservedestiny: For every person there is a motive. He is holding a parting briefing with Wolf on

Sunday at the same location as your failed (some may say) op of recent. 1100 hours.

drbknows: And if you could add something, after the schedule, regarding the true nature of the

ongoing chemtrails and their purpose (aside from Raindancer).

preservedestiny: It is a weapon.

drbknows: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

drbknows: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx not all is broadcast on the thread immediately.

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preservedestiny: xxxxxxxxxxxxx.

drbknows: Sometimes clumsy naivete knows its own rewards!

preservedestiny: xxxxxxxxxxxxx This one is going to be a hell burner, I hear!

drbknows: I like that --hell-burner. Vivid!

drbknows: Is the "weapon" directed against the multitudinous populace? "Sculpting", as they say?

preservedestiny: She passed the tests so the rest of the info is being released to her. The weapon is not

intended to harm our population.

drbknows: Getting back to his schedule.....

preservedestiny: Then I must retire, yes?

drbknows: Yes. You've put in more than would've been hoped for. I will ex-out

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

preservedestiny: Be advised xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

drbknows: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

preservedestiny: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx No one

will argue with him much. They are afraid of the angel.

drbknows: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

preservedestiny: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. His "back-of-the-head sight" is

rather good.

preservedestiny: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.

preservedestiny: I am reading it now.

drbknows: Now that's news! Any place we can get proof of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

drbknows: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

preservedestiny: He was xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

preservedestiny: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

drbknows: Before '86?

preservedestiny: No, '88-'90.

drbknows: Okay, but anything that can prove he was/is an acting microbiologist?

drbknows: Even after being "tapped"?

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preservedestiny: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

preservedestiny: Well, he defied the committee and that cost him dearly.

drbknows: Oh, an after-class job, to help make ends meet?

preservedestiny: Pretty much so. His sights have never really swayed from the science.

drbknows: So, defiance has a cost! No allowance! We are trying to find records of him as an acting

microbiologist.

preservedestiny: He published information about a subject related to the DCTP. He knew it was

forbidden for him.

drbknows: Published where?

preservedestiny: Eagles Disobey - that little book that cost him.

drbknows: The actual book on Mars, then.....

preservedestiny: The only records that remain are in people's minds that have been paid well for

silence and the few scraps in societies as well as alumni journals. The action of the

committee cost $125,000 to erase his academic power.

drbknows: Which is why some of those laboring in the fields longer than I are saying they need to

prove his legitimacy in his chosen field, of which he describes in order to validate what he

has said.

preservedestiny: Not much to pay for that many in silence. It is discouraging.

drbknows: So, individuals with yearbooks may be the source of last resort. The classmates sold out for

pennies. Oooohhh …

preservedestiny: The committee members that remain aren't interested in verifying anything about him.

Why should they be?

preservedestiny: Once the course is taken, it is taken.

drbknows: The ones that remain ... what is their position then?

preservedestiny: 4 are part of the reconstituted original 12. The remainders are either in retirement,

continuing to power broke, or dead.

drbknows: Which are you? As in of the original 12, or what?

preservedestiny: Which am I? I am not retired, nor do I broker for power. So far, I breathe.

drbknows: The purpose behind validating him is to present the information he has shared to the wider

community of inquiring minds that will hopefully do some good somewhere?

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preservedestiny: I have answered. As for validation, if you can gain access to the correct political

process, he has more than enough information to validate himself where it is really

important.

drbknows: So you are one of the original Maji?!!?

preservedestiny: No.

drbknows: Not the "classic" Maji led by Hillenkoetter, but the last current group. What of the rest of

the committee? What has happened to it? Are they still a threat?

preservedestiny: We could drag out old memos, certificates, letters and play the game of stupidity

where one or the other disinfo ops asks for "MORE!" or just let time play itself out

as it should. There are a few members that have allied with the rogues.

drbknows: The correct political process …I take it you are not discussing the Congressional Record or

the guest list of the Cosmo Club......

preservedestiny: Yes that is reasonable.

preservedestiny: The only place he could broach the correct answers is in a play where immunity lies

and doors are closed to the public.

drbknows: How can they do that? Are they that dark at heart that they believe that genocide is the way

to go?

preservedestiny: It's not new on the scene, Don.

drbknows: A legal courtroom, judges chambers?

preservedestiny: If he is deposed, he will not lie. He fears God. There lies the key. He has to answer

something.

drbknows: A deposition, then. State of Nevada. What be the charge?

preservedestiny: Your key I should say.

drbknows: He fears my/our key?

preservedestiny: To compel him to civil court, a trumped-up charge would fail. He fears God. I don't

think he shares other fears. Not anymore.

drbknows: Trumped-up is out. Only a truthful situation.

preservedestiny: They would find themselves, within the Flower group in a sticky wicket if he is

served with a request to answer to questions regarding disclosure and -- I would

say -- "other items" that would require him obtaining full immunity.

drbknows: and specifically what?

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preservedestiny: You know …

drbknows: I guess that is our/my job then ...

preservedestiny: Well, this tape isn't going to self destruct if you don't … Mr. Phelps …

drbknows: Does our pursuit of these truths endanger us [I saw that!] in regards to our own safety, or do

we share that same situation with you?

preservedestiny: You can only lever him before the elected authority, by gaining their attention with

deposed answers. I have decided that. They aren't going to hurt you. Too much

power is on your side.

drbknows: I'm afraid to ask too much then! But I trust walking in the light without fear and anger has a

lot to do with it in your opinion?

preservedestiny: No, your so-called "Yellow Book" has provided me some minor insight.

drbknows: Would it alter events if you were to share it?

preservedestiny: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

preservedestiny: I t could.

preservedestiny: You have free will. To share it, in such a manner, well … Dan learned the

consequence of asking. Dan and I are of the same mind regarding that kind of

disclosure. (And that says something if you know him!)

drbknows: I accept that. My StarryEyes is reading and showing concern that our safety is at risk by

pursuing this case.

preservedestiny: I cannot alleviate such concerns in this medium. No matter how I would try. It

depends on how much you want a desired end?

drbknows: I accept that. Much I accept on fate; she see helicopters and white vans and knows they

aren't innocuous. I meant I accept on faith. Floydian slip there.

preservedestiny: I will make them innocuous, send what I can away. Would that act as some proof?

drbknows: Yes, it would.

preservedestiny: Very well. Calls will be made once the rest of the world wakes. Our little world

anyway.

drbknows: Anything that helps, helps.

preservedestiny: Done.

drbknows: And I thank you profusely. I am being bombarded by other IMs asking all manner of

questions regarding the stargates (we found the second "ring" in so many words),

chemtrails, etc. Which are a weapon, but not against the innocent population, right?

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preservedestiny: And I must retire. Yes, the American public will be protected by the military.

drbknows: Used against an unseen enemy among us, many of us suffering flu-like diseases as a

consequence however. Is that an accurate assessment? Before you go … truly protected, and not

merely rounded-up for the concentration camps?

preservedestiny: Not my decision. The wider issues of protection prevail.

drbknows: I am being told [you] don't go yet …

preservedestiny: No. I need a small sleep.

drbknows: that both stargates are active, both open...incoming only....shadow priests in charge

preservedestiny: Mr. Dep, I have been pleased to have had this conversation with you. Do the best

that you can with your free will, and trust in your God to protect you. Goodnight,

sir.

drbknows: Thank you again, you have been most kind.

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