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Feedback from January 2012 Open Houses

Presentation to Little Mountain

Community Advisory Group

littlemountainplanningprogram Overview

Open house attendance409 signed in600+ total

Comment forms submitted326 paper (39 former residents)143 on-line (4 former residents)Total: 469 responsesJuly 2011: 236 forms total

littlemountainplanningprogram Who Responded?

littlemountainplanningprogram Guiding Principles


35%

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1. Relationship to Neighbourhood


43%

22%32%

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2. Public Space Focus


46%

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3. Connections


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4. Sun & Shadow


41%

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5. Building Variety


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6. Views

littlemountainplanningprogram Principles Summary

Performs WellPublic spacesConnections through siteBuilding variety

SplitViews

Needs WorkRelationship to neighbourhoodShadowing

littlemountainplanningprogram Principles – Open-ended


Positive CommentaryPraise for quality of site planVisibly-improved designNew residential opportunitiesGood project overall


Negative CommentaryToo dense – inappropriate scaleToo much heightTransitions to surrounding areaNot enough green spaceNot enough social/affordable housingHolborn not listening to earlier input

littlemountainplanningprogram Height & Density

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8: Level of Density

littlemountainplanningprogram

Height & Density – Open-ended



Positive CommentaryAppropriate scale for large siteDensity right if designed wellAffordability – young people, 1st time

home buyersSustainability – accommodate growthIncrease vibrancy in area



Negative CommentaryIncompatible with single-family homes,

Main Street characterNot downtown, not on rapid transit lineSensitivity of QE ParkToo many new people in neighbourhoodCommunity facilities already

overwhelmedTraffic impacts

littlemountainplanningprogram Community Benefits

40%

22%37%

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Yes Almost No

9. Level of Community Benefits


Community Benefits – Open ended

Some support for proposed benefitsAdditional childcare needed (>69 spaces)Existing facilities (e.g., Hillcrest) at capacityAdditional affordable housing

20%, 1/3, tenures (co-op, rental)More local-serving retail & servicesMore green space and play space

littlemountainplanningprogram Additional Comments

“Get on with it!” vs. “back to the drawing board!”Attractive design

but too tall/denseOpportunity for young families to live in areaMore social/affordable housingToo out-of-character

Height, density, design

littlemountainplanningprogram Paper Forms vs. Online

First time in process online forms usedLimited to one form per household30% of all responses on-lineMost responses from immediate area5%-15% difference between on-line and paper forms– Generally more critical of the concept


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Meets principle Almost meetsprinciple

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14% difference in on-line vs. paper responses.


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3. Connections


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Not Enough Not QuiteEnough


Too Much

8: Level of Density

littlemountainplanningprogram Anomalies – 2011 Example

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Density Concept

9. Transition to Neighbourhood

Meets Principle Almost Meets Principle Does Not Meet Principle

# of Responses

littlemountainplanningprogram Former Residents

70%

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Attended Open House or Submitted On-line (n=23)


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Submitted Independently (n=16)


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NotEnough

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Too Much

8: Level of Density

Attended Open House or Submitted On-line (n=23)


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8: Level of Density

Submitted Independently (n=16)


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