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A B C , 1 2 3 . . . the triadic dialectics of August Deese

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A B C , 1 2 3 . . .

the triadic dialectics of August Deese

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho7796-au8U

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introduction

- three outta two ain’t bad- private investigations

Hegel versus Deese : the logical song

the proof of the pudding is in the eating - in life ... in my life- in anthropopsychiatry ... mama weer all crazee now- in therapy ... I don’t wanna talk about it

open dialogue : ‘there must be some way out of here’

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three outta two ain’t bad

dialogue 2

all good things come in threes

- structurally in life - clinically

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private investigations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9K27HvhDxA

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August Deese

Jacques Schotte

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August Deese (1928 – 1988)

‘the unknown philosopher’

“c’est le philosophe le plus original et le plus important de Fribourg depuis Heidegger” (Albert Chapelle s.j.) (Schotte, 2006, p. 118)

It’s the most original and the most important philosopher since Heidegger

“pas une phrase, pas un mot”

“il a tout emporté avec lui dans sa tombe” (Schotte, 2006, p. 124)

Not a sentence, not a word

He took everything to his grave

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Jacques Schotte (Ghent, 1928 – 2007, Ghent)

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H e g e l v s . D e e s e

Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (Stuttgart, 27 augustus 1770 – Berlijn, 14 november 1831)

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http://www.wat.tv/video/supertramp-the-logical-song-1979-35rbx_2g9el_.html

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all good things come in threes

the Hegelian dialectic

endless repetition of itself (closed system)

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the triadic dialectics of August Deese

transcends the classical dialectic, opening something new (open system)

‘ouverture globale’

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term 1 term 2 term 3

• dialectic relation as such

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first term - second term - third term

T R A N S F O R MA T I O N

dialectic tension

dialectic relation as such

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essential difference

the third term is the dialectic relation

breaking open the first term

mediated by the second term

leading to transformation

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‘it’s just because of the third term that the whole can articulate itself ànd that the difference between the two other terms can be transcended’

(Schotte, p. 54)

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accent on the last of the three terms, because this is their ‘real goal and real origin’

(‘leur véritable but et leur vraie origine’)

Notice pour introduire le problème structural de la Schicksalsanalyse

In: Jacques Schotte, Szondi avec Freud, Ed. De Boeck-Wesmael, 1990, p. 53

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K E R N E L

in the ontogenetic order

is involved

in reversed direction

an ontological order

the goal becomes the origin

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t h e p r o o f o f t h e p u d d i n g i s i n t h e e a t i n g

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IN LIFE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKQpRgxyyqo

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BASIS

FOUNDATION

ORIGIN

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BASIS

- Greek: marching, firmness

- in relation to the mother(ly) (f.i. basic trust)

- enables to stay upright

- staying alive ...

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FOUNDATION

- sustains the BASIS

- in relation to the Father: Père/Pairs (father/peers)

- in relation to the Law

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ORIGIN

- Latin: oriri: being born

- the thrill to live as the subject itself

- ... life that the father and the mother can’t give

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the developmental (ontogenetic) perspective:

mother & father the child

the structural (non-genetic, ontological) perspective

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basis foundation

developmental ‘Mother comes first’ ...

structural the Father(ly) supports the Mother(ly) the foundation of the basis

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structural perspective

everybody is continually called to find in the first two terms the germs of its own origin

through transformation of the first two termstowards a transformation of itself

developmental perspective

the adolescence as the beginning of being oneself

origin

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IN ANTHROPOPSYCHIATRY

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gPulu85q04

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Le Prix de l’Évolution psychiatrique 2009

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Leo RuelensNaar een nieuwe psychiatrie - Het rebelse denken van Jacques Schotte

Literarte, Kessel-Lo 2010

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the typical human psychopathologies

affecting the human person

às human being

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4 ground pathologies

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thymopsychopathy

- mood disorders - toxicomania - psychopathy

perversion

neurosis

psychosis

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1) neurosis as the negative of perversion (Freud)

‘Neurose ist sozusagen das Negativ der Perversion.’

Freud, Drei Abhandlungen zur Sexualtheorie, 1905

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‘ the pervert is doing what the neurotic is dreaming of’ (Freud)

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2) classes ( DSM )

interactive pathological ground structures of being entangled in psychopathology

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PSYCHOSIS PERVERSION

THYMOPSYCHOPATHY NEUROSIS

first term

second termthird term

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IN THERAPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryZSZVmTzzM

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dire discourir parler

Sagen Reden Sprechen

talking discoursing speaking

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dire Sagen talking

to do a lot of talking

to run out of words

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discourir Reden discoursing

an intersubjective reference

a subject wants to influence the other(s)

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parler Sprechen speaking

a real dialogue

transformation: still the same, not the same anymore

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g i v i n g a n e w d y n a m i c

by means of the second term (discoursing)

to the first term (talking)

keeping the speech act and therapeutic change open

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the heart of the matter

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Jean Oury (° 1924)

founder and ‘médecin directeur’ of‘La Borde’ in Cour- Cheverny (France)

One of the founding fathers of the ‘Psychothérapie Institutionnelle’

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‘ouvrir les systèmes institutionnels cloisonnés’

opening the closed institutionnel systems

in the broad sense of the word !

‘dialectiser les systèmes’

dialecting the systems

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‘(...)

elle ne débouche en tout cas pas sur une synthèse clôturante,

mais plutôt sur

une réouverture ou une remobilisation.’(p. 133)

it does not lead in any way to a closing synthesis

but more to

an opening anew or a mobilisation anew.

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o p e n d i a l o g u e

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The Open Dialogue Approach to Acute Psychosis:Its Poetics and Micropolitics

Jaakko SeikkulaMary E. Olson

Family Process, 2003

poetics

tolerance of uncertainty

dialogism

polyphony in social network

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tolerance of uncertainty

making talking (dire) possible ...

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dialogism

the aim of discoursing the prevailing discours

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polyphony

many voices, still two to tango :

the professional system the non-professional system

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k e r n e l q u e s t i o ns for

the Open Dialogue approach

- where is speaking (parler, Sprechen) as the transforming term?

- the third term: crucial or not ?

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to speak or not to speak that’s the question ...

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Here, there and everywhere

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nothing compares 2 3 ?

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mirror stage (Lacan)

master – slave dialectic (Hegel): live and let die

i m p a s s e

* psychoanalysis * anthropology * philosophy * in life

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open Dialogue ...

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the third term breaches the impasse

the core factor for the whole

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implemented

in philosophy (August Deese)

in psychoanalysis (Lacan: the-Name-of-the-Father)

in anthropopsychiatry (Jacques Schotte)

in life

to be implemented

in the Open Dialogue approach ?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LKMogdjm8