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Measuring graduate occupations and their skill requirements in Hungary Peter Robert, Institute for Political Science, Centre for Social Sciences HAS Zsuzsanna Veroszta, Educatio Nonprofit LLC InGRID Expert workshop New skills new jobs: Tools for harmonising the measurement of occupations’ 10-12 February 2014 AIAS, Amsterdam

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Page 1: Measuring graduate occupations and their skill requirements in Hungary Peter Robert, Institute for Political Science, Centre for Social Sciences HAS Zsuzsanna

Measuring graduate occupations and their skill requirements in Hungary

Peter Robert, Institute for Political Science, Centre for Social Sciences HAS

Zsuzsanna Veroszta, Educatio Nonprofit LLC

InGRID Expert workshop New skills new jobs: Tools for harmonising the measurement of occupations’

10-12 February 2014 AIAS, Amsterdam

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Outline

• Graduate follow up system in Hungary• Methods for measuring occupations• Characterizing graduate occupations from the

perspective of educational requirements- combining an objective and subjective approach

- examples from national and comparative datasets,young early career graduates and population level

• Lessons and limitations• Further issues and challenges

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Graduate Career Follow up System

Correspondents:• Professional and methodological centre (Educatio):

Support HEI projects, provide the standard of tracking system, helpdesk, national surveys, database building, research, communication, administration

• HE institutions: Establish and improve graduate tracking system, adapt to national system, surveys, institutional background, external and internal communication of results, maintenance

• Financial resources: European Union - Social Renewal Operative Programme 4.1.3.

• Official background : Ministry of National Resources

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Methodology of career tracking

Methodology:• On-line data collection at institutional level (via e-mail

from administration system) • Centralized standards• Population: students (all) and graduates 1, 3, 5 years after

graduation – every spring

Questionnaire: • core questionnaire completed with specific institutional

questions• international standards for comparability (CHEERS, Reflex,

Hegesco)

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Data collection in career tracking: extent and characteristics

• Annually since 2010• 32 HE institutions (~90 per cent of student-population

covered) • Population: graduates 1,3,5 years after graduation:

~150.000 • Amount of data: ~25.000 responders per year• Response rate: ~17 per cent• Weighting criteria: year, gender, field of study, type of the

programme• Database integration: 2011-2012

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Measuring occupation in career tracking

• Open questions: on-line data collection vs. F2F / capi combination (with loading large underlying dataset)

• Primary information on occupation: self-report of occupation (supported with examples)

• Secondary information on occupation: employment status, form of employment (contract), sector of employment, working hours, subjective matching (vertical and horizontal) etc.

• Coding occupations: manual coding of individual responses to 4 digit codes into FEOR (= Hungarian version of ISCO)+ objective index of horizontal matching (based on a comparison of occupation and the training programme)

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FEOR – ISCO cross-matching ISCO 88 FEOR 08

10 Legislators, senior officials and managers11 Legislators and senior officials 11 Chief executives, senior officials and legislators12 Corporate managers 12 Administrative and commercial managers13 Managers of small enterprises 13 Production and specialised services managers

14 Managers of other economic units20 Professional

21 Phys, mathem, engin science professionals 21 Science and engineering professionals22 Life science and health professionals 22 Health professionals23 Teaching professionals 23 Social professionals24 Other professional 24 Teaching professionals

25 Business professionals26 Legal and social professionals27 Cultural, sport, arts professionals29 Other highly qualified administrators

30 Technicians and associate professionals31 Physical, engineering science associate prof 31 Science and engineering associate professionals32 Life, science and health associate prof 32 Professional managers, supervisors33 Teaching associate professionals 33 Health associate professionals34 Other associate professionals 34 Teaching associate professionals

34 Social and labour market services professionals35 Business and administration associate professionals36 Cultural, sport, arts associate professionals39 Other administrators

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Theoretical framework

Labour-market oriented approach (vs. HE oriented)

(Elias, P.-Purcell, K. 2013)

Diversification, heterogeneity in HE and its consequences on labor market

adaptation

(Clark, B. R. 1996) (Huisman, J. 1995)

Changes in the concept and measurement of graduate employment

(Teichler, U. 1998, 2009) (Allen, J.–van der Velden, R. 2007)

Combining objective and subjective indicators characterizing graduate

occupations

(Abele, A. E.-Spurk, D.-Volmer, J. 2011)

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Data

• Database 1: Hungarian Career Tracking System, aged ~21+– graduates in 2007-2011, N=45,348– selection: employed in graduate-occupations (FEOR 1-2-3, 2 digit)

N=15,473 (objective indicator) & 13,147 (subjective indicator)

• Database 2: European Social Survey, aged 15+– For objective indicator: pooled data from round 2-4 (2004-2008)

N=142,629– For subjective indicator: pooled data from round 2 & 5 (2004, 2010)

N=81,937– selection: employed in graduate-occupations (ISCO 1-2-3, 2 digit)

N=43,946 (objective indicator) & 13,696 (subjective indicator)

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Indicators of educational heterogeneity of graduate occupations

Content Measurement Source

Objective heterogeneity of educational input

Highest values of adjusted standardized residuals from distribution by field of study (= higher homogeneity)

Hungarian Graduate Career Tracking System (2007-2011)

Subjective judgment of horizontal matching

Ratio of being employed in horizontally matching job (by the opinion of the graduate)

Hungarian Graduate Career Tracking System (2007-2011)

Objective heterogeneity of educational input

Highest values of adjusted standardized residuals from distribution by field of study (= higher homogeneity)

European Social Survey Round 2-4 (2004-2008)

Subjective level of post-job entry educational requirement

Means of required time of learning for someone with right qualification to complete the job (by the respondent)

European Social Survey Round 2,5 (2004, 2010)

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Objective measurement of heterogeneity of educational input

Chief executives, senior officials and legislatorsAdministrative and commercial managers

Production and specialised services managersManagers of other economic units

Science and engineering professionalsHealth professionalsSocial professionals

Teaching professionalsBusiness professionals

Legal and social professionalsCultural, sport, arts professionals

Other highly qualified administratorsScience and engineering associate professionals

Professional managers, supervisorsHealth associate professionals

Social and labour market services professionalsBusiness and administration associate professionals

Cultural, sport, arts associate professionalsOther administrators

0.00 10.00 20.00 30.00 40.00 50.00 60.00 70.00 80.00 90.00 100.0021,2 (administration, law enforcement and

military)8,4 (economics)

7,8 (agriculture)

12,4 (economics)

48,0 (informatics)94,7 (medical and health

sciences)42,2 (social sciences)

53,4 (teachers training)

42,0 (economics)

51,4 (law)

19,6 (social sciences)

4,9 (natural sciences)

14,9 (engineering)

3,2 (humanities)30,2 (medical and health

sciences)13,4 (teachers training)

28,6 (economics)

15,6 (sport sciences)

2,6 (economics)

FEOR/ISCO 1

FEOR/ISCO 2

FEOR/ISCO 3

Highest value of the adjusted standardized residuals, based on the proportions taken from an occupation (FEOR 08 – 2 digit ) by field of study table, N=15,473

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Subjective measurement of horizontal matching Ratio of subjective horizontal match in graduate occupations by 2 digit FEOR 08 categories N=13,147

Chief executives, senior officials and legislators

Administrative and commercial managers

Production and specialised services managers

Managers of other economic units

Science and engineering professionals

Health professionals

Social professionals

Teaching professionals

Business professionals

Legal and social professionals

Cultural, sport, arts professionals

Other highly qualified administrators

Science and engineering associate professionals

Professional managers, supervisors

Health associate professionals

Social and labour market services professionals

Business and administration associate professionals

Cultural, sport, arts associate professionals

Total

.0% 10.0% 20.0% 30.0% 40.0% 50.0% 60.0% 70.0% 80.0% 90.0% 100.0%

79.5%

77.1%

82.0%

82.4%

89.4%

96.4%

93.8%

94.9%

81.6%

90.4%

79.2%

74.9%

65.2%

63.8%

73.7%

84.7%

67.8%

62.0%

83.5%

FEOR/ISCO 1

FEOR/ISCO 2

FEOR/ISCO 3

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Subjective horizontal match and objective educational heterogeneity of graduate occupations (FEOR 2 digit codes)

Match and educational homogeneity

Highest value of Adj. S. Resid.

60.0% 95.0%

-15.00

20.00

55.00

90.00

Chief executives, senior of-ficials and legislators

Administrative and commercial managers

Production and specialised services managers

Managers of other economic units

Science and engineering professionals

Health professionals

Social professionals

Teaching professionals

Business professionals

Legal and social professionals

Cultural, sport, arts pro-fessionals

Other highly qualified

administrators

Science and engineering assoc. pro-

fessionals

Professional managers, supervisors

Health associate professionals

Social and labourmarket services professionals

Business and administration assoc. professionals

Cultural, sport, arts assoc.

professionals

Rate of horizontal match

Mismatch and educational heterogeneity

Match and educational heterogeneity

FEOR/ISCO 1

FEOR/ISCO 2

FEOR/ISCO 3

Mismatch and educational homogeneity

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Objective measurement of heterogeneity of educational inputHighest value of the adjusted standardized residuals, based on the proportions taken from an occupation (ISCO 88 – 2 digit ) by field of study table, N=43,946

Legislators, senior officials and managers

Corporate managers

Managers of small enterprises

Phys, mathem, engin science professionals

Life science and health professionals

Teaching professionals

Other professional

Physical,engineering science associate prof

Life,science and health associate prof

Teaching associate professionals

Other associate professionals

0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140

26,3 (Public order and safety)

20,3(Economics/commerce/business

administration)36,6 (General/

no specific field)

61,5 (Technical and engineering)

95,5 (Medical/health services/ nursing )114,9

(Teacher training/ education)

46,1 (Law and legal services)

60,6 (Technical and engineering) 118,4

(Medical/health services/ nursing)

53,6 (Teacher training/ education)

52,3(Economics/commerce/business

administration)

FEOR/ISCO 1

FEOR/ISCO 2

FEOR/ISCO 3

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Subjective skill level requirements for graduate occupationsMeans of required time of learning for someone with right qualification to complete the work in days by 2 digit ISCO 88 categories, N=13,696

Legislators, senior officials and managers

Legislators and senior officials

Corporate managers

Managers of small enterprises

Professional

Phys, mathem, engin science professionals

Life science and health professionals

Teaching professionals

Other professional

Physical,engineering science associate prof

Life,science and health associate prof

Teaching associate professionals

Other associate professionals

Total

0.00 100.00 200.00 300.00 400.00 500.00 600.00 700.00

469.06

579.36

536.02

436.60

493.42

515.62

499.83

530.24

422.88

446.99

337.15

310.52

347.81

441.48

FEOR/ISCO 1

FEOR/ISCO 2

FEOR/ISCO 3

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Objective educational heterogeneity and subjective skill requirements of graduate occupations (ISCO 88 2 digit codes)

300.00 400.00 500.00 600.00

10

50

90

Legislators, senior of-ficials and managers

Corporate managers

Managers of small enterprises

Phys, mathem, engin science professionals

Life science and health professionals

Teaching professionals

Other professional

Physical,engineering science associate prof

Life,science and health associate prof

Teaching associate pro-fessionals Other associate pro-

fessionals

Low level skill requirements and educational homogeneity

Highest value of Adj. S. Resid.

Level of post-job entry requirements

High level skill requirements and educational homogeneity

Low level skill requirements and educational heterogeneity

FEOR/ISCO 1

FEOR/ISCO 2

FEOR/ISCO 3

High level skill requirements and educational heterogeneity

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Lessons and limitationsIn Hungary for early career graduates:• educational input is more homogeneous for professionals and particularly

heterogeneous for managers• subjective horizontal match is stronger for professionals• homogeneous educational input and higher horizontal match is combined for

professionals, while heterogeneous educational input and lower horizontal match go together for associate professionals

Graduates from comparative population data • less clear pattern for professionals and associate professionals but educational

heterogeneity for managers is present• subjective skill level requirements are lower for associate professionals• high level of skill requirement go together with educational heterogeneity for

managers and with educational homogeneity for professionals

Limitations• only descriptive picture provided, no multivariate analysis yet• in case of the population data: no control for age, country variation is not studied /

presented

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Further plans, open questions to discuss

Measurement• Elaborating on occupational classification: how detailed can it be?

(2-3-4 digit coding) number of observations as a barrier• How much is the objective indicator based on the standardized adjusted residuals

sensitive to the size of the table (number of categories in ISCO / field of study)• The role and function of subjective indicators in the analysis?

(also from the perspective of employer)• Does educational requirement analysis disclose coding discrepancies

More theory (for graduate occupations)• Educational input behind job:

- what is the role of the structural changes in the HE system? (Bologna process)- what is the consequence of mass HE? Is the level of HE based accumulated skills and qualifications on the decline?

• How do LM needs affect skill requirements of the job?- Option 1: LM needs better skilled graduate employees due to the technological change- Option 2: LM dos not need better skilled graduates, only required competencies are: language skills, good use of computer, ability of working in team, accepting high work load and monotony in the job

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Thank you and comments welcome

Peter Robert, [email protected] Veroszta, [email protected]

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