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The InterviewSuperintendent Robert Grimesey

Southern HopheadsThe Art of Brewing

DirtbagsGeocaching in the Sandhills

October/November 2014

SAND& PINEMAGAZINE

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The honor of your presence is requested at The

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or George Norman 910-987-9664Tickets are also available at the Sandhills Food Bank, 195 Sandy Avenue, Southern Pines

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INDEPENDENT LIVING

RedefinedAt Quail Haven Village there is a new face for retirement

living. A face that is active, desires adventure, is vibrant and

never dull. You might say we have redefined retirement living.

Our central location within Pinehurst, wealth of activities,

amenities, spacious apartment homes and access to a full

continuum of care are just a few reasons so many choose

to call Quail Haven home. Life is full of opportunity and our

residents do not take a moment for granted. Schedule a visit

today to see how you can redefine the way you live.

A PART OF THE LIBERTY FAMILY OF SERVICESHours: Monday - Friday 9:00am to 5:00pm

155 Blake Boulevard, Pinehurst NC 28374

Schedule a visit of our Garden Apartment Homes!Call 910-684-4205 or visit www.QuailHavenOfPinehurst.com

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© Copyright 2014. Sand & Pine Magazine is published six times annually by Sand & Pine, LLC. Reproduction in whole or in part without written consent is prohibited.

PublishersGreg Girard, Amanda Jakl

EditorGreg Girard

[email protected]

Creative DirectorAmanda Jakl

[email protected]

Word GeekJennifer Kirby

Ad PeddlerLeslie Habets

[email protected]

Contributing Scribblers Darcy Connor, Robert Nason

Visual AlchemistsCarter Beck, Greg Girard,

Amanda Jakl

P.O. Box 892Southern Pines, NC 28388

Tel. 910-315-0467info@sandandpinemag.comwww.sandandpinemag.comfacebook: SandandPineMag

10 16 20The Interview

Packers fan, military father, supreme educator. We sit down with Dr. Bob Grimesey, the new superintendent of

Moore County Schools.

At the TableOK, squash is technically a gourd, which

isn’t the most appetizing of words, but this native veggie can be used in a

plethora of dishes to be enjoyed on cool autumn nights.

The InterviewSuperintendent Robert Grimesey Southern Hopheads

The Art of Brewing

DirtbagsGeocaching in the Sandhills

October/November 2014SAND& PINEMAGAZINE

On the Cover

I took this in the early morning on the Lighter Stump Trail at

Weymouth Woods. I had to lie down on my map to get just

the right angle.

Photo: Amanda Jakl

GeocachingForget pirate ships, treasure maps and

“X” marks the spot. For this modern-day treasure hunt, all you need is your phone

and little sense of adventure.

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27 28Home Brew

We’re not talking bathroom gin or tin shed moonshine here. This is serious

brewing with a strong hint of imagination and a faint aroma of mad scientist.

Garden VarietyWe know, we know. Fall is here and you’re wondering what to do with

those deciduous trees. Not to worry, our master gardener has got you covered.

editor note by Greg Girard

Sapsucker Magazine. Brilliant, right? It came to me on my second lap around the reservoir, just as the path descends toward the bridge on the far side. My run was going as

expected – 40 minutes of self-torture followed by a satisfying runner’s high. But this. This had me running on air. It had everything - thought-provoking, memorable, that subtle, in-the-know connection to the area. I couldn’t wait to get home, to tell my wife, Heather, and bask in her overjoyed reaction at being in the presence of a creative genius.

“I’ve got it. It came to me on my run. Sapsucker Maga-zine,” I said, barging through the kitchen door, throwing my hands out as if the name were emblazoned on a marquee. But instead of her leaping into my arms, confetti popping in the background as she rejoices in my brilliance, I got that those-marriage-vows-still-apply-so-I-better-offer-my-support look. It wasn’t very inspiring.

I thought, well, I love her and all, but that’s just one opinion. So I went to Amanda, our intrepid creative director, confident she would say, “That’s it. That is the name!” Instead, she said, “Are you kidding?” So I went to a friend. “Dude, no.”

What’s in a name? Marketers would say, everything. But does the name define the object or person or is it the other way around? It’s not a new question. Shakespeare pondered it quite famously in Romeo and Juliet … “a rose by any other name ….”

A good name invokes thought and feeling. It makes a connection. It says something, often without saying anything. It took us a while to get to Sand & Pine Magazine. It was pains-taking. Crossings, Sand, Longleaf, In Between, SAP, Woods, Strand ... I can remember streams of text messages with Amanda, pages of words and phrases. Words together, deconstructed words, adding syllables, abbreviating. It certainly didn’t take this long to name my children.

Sand & Pine didn’t come in a eureka moment. We worked toward it, just like most worthwhile things in life. We believe it expresses the mission of this magazine – to share, through words and images, the diverse and unique stories of our community.

In the end, maybe it comes down to what the British philosopher Alan Wilson Watts said: “The menu is not the meal.” It is what’s behind the name that counts. We hope you enjoy Sand & Pine Magazine as much as we did creating it.

What’s on the Web ....... 6

Quicksand ....... 8

Good Reads ....... 7

Last Word ....... 33

Shutter ....... 34

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Halloween HitsMichael Jackson, OutKast, The Black Keys and CCR and

many more are sure to get your ghouls and goblins to boogie down. Wanna listen to it now? Scan the QR code or visit

spotify.com/user/sandandpinemag

We’re on Instagram. Are you?Let’s share the photo love. Follow us and we’ll return the favor. We share our Humans of Moore County (#homc)

photos as well as snaps we take around the county. instagram.com/sandandpinemag

Follow us on FacebookCommunity events, recent articles, blog posts, photos taken in and around the Sandhills as well as random,

interesting, funny, and insightful items from the internet.facebook.com/sandandpinemag

Moore Personalities with... Exclusive profiles of business owners, leaders and

interesting characters in Moore County. Exclusive to our website.

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What’s on the Web?

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Preschool/Toddler: Mouse’s First Fall by Lauren Thompson / Illustrated by Buket Erdogan

This is the sweet story of Mouse experiencing for the first time all that fall has to offer. Brilliant illustrations bring this vibrant tale alive. “Mouse’s First Fall” is part of the New York Times bestselling series, “Mouse’s First.”

Picture Book: The Day the Crayons Quit by Drew Daywalt / Illustrated by Oliver Jeffers  

Told from the point of view of fed-up crayons, a boy ready to color discovers instead that his crayons have written letters voicing their grievances. Red is tired of working holidays, peach’s wrapper has been torn away leaving him naked, and yellow and orange aren’t on speaking terms. You’ll never look at a box of crayons the same way again. This book is laugh-out-loud funny for children and adults alike.

Upper Elementary: Extra Credit by Andrew Clements / Illustration by Mark Elliott

Working to avoid staying back a year in school, Abby Carson is forced into a pen pal exchange and ends up corresponding with Sadeed Bayat from Afghanistan, the best English speaker in his class. It doesn’t take long before Abby and Sadeed discover lessons about themselves, their communities and the world in which they live. This story is part of this year’s Battle of the Books reading list.

Middle School: The Blood of Olympus by Rick Riordan

The final installment of Rick Riordan’s “Heroes of Olympus” series has arrived. “The Blood of Olympus” completes the adventures of Percy Jackson and his Greek and Roman demi-god friends as they fight to save the world from Earth mother, Gaea. Can these heroes battle Gaea’s giants and save humanity? We’ll have to read to find out! The Blood of Olympus releases Oct. 7.

Classic: For Whom the Bell Tolls by Ernest Hemingway

I may have been pressured into this one as it’s the editor’s favorite novel. That being said, this story of love, death and sacrifice is set with the backdrop of the Spanish Civil War in the 1930s. Robert Jordan, an Ameri-can volunteering for the Republicans, is sent behind enemy lines to link up with Spanish guerrillas in order to blow up a bridge controlled by the Fascists. Many consider this novel to be Hemingway at his best.

Good Reads “The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you’ll go.” - Dr. Suess

by Darcy Connor

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QuicksandQuickSand

source: statisticbrain.com and history.com

51MTOTAL NUMBER OF TURKEYS THAT ARE CONSUMEDON THANKSGIVING DAY

2.375B TOTAL U.S. SPENDING ONTHANKSGIVING DINNER FOOD

4NUMBER OF MEN SENT TO HUNT BIRDS FOR THE FIRST THANKSGIVING IN 1621

248MAVERAGE NUMBER OF TURKEYS RAISED IN THE U.S. EACH YEAR

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QUOTABLE STUFFING

“I celebrated Thanksgiving in an old-fashioned way. I invited everyone in my neighborhood to my house, we had an enormous feast, and then I killed them and took their land. - jon stewart

Thanksgiving dinners take eighteen hours to prepare. They are consumed in twelve minutes. Half-times take twelve minutes. This is not coincidence. - erma bombeck

”As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. - john fitzgerald kennedy

A LOOK AHEADHere’s a few events coming up beyond our current issue. Make sure to mark your calendars and plan ahead. For more recent events and happenings, check out our Facebook page for daily updates.

The Great Smoky Mountains RailroadThe Polar ExpressNovember 7-January 4www.gsmr.com

Festival of TreesNovember 19-23www.sandhillschildrenscenter.org/trees

The NutcrackerNovember 28-December 28www.carolinaballet.com

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DirtbagsPhotos and Story by Amanda Jakl

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I’m having an Indiana Jones moment.I’m inching along a single cable suspended over a river. The cable has rails, providing a false sense of support, as the entire bridge bends and sways with my weight and what seems to be even the slightest hint of a breeze.

My mission, which I chose to accept, was to cross the bridge to obtain the code for a geocache lock box on the other side, and then return. I look at the roaring river, wondering how deep it would have to be for me to survive the fall. The cable I’m balancing on can’t be more than an inch across and the boots I’m wearing aren’t allowing me to feel much. Trapeze shoes would have been more appropriate.

Dangling precariously in the air, I make it another few feet before I can’t go any further. I’m past my comfort zone. I value my life too much for an adventure like this. I’m Willie Scott in “Temple of Doom,” pretty much useless in the face of danger. Slightly panicked, my first thought is to turn and jump. So I do, falling at the speed of gravity, until four feet later, I’m safely on solid ground. I’m alive … barely.

It isn’t until I stand straight with relief that I realize I failed my geocaching coaches, a look of polite disapproval on their faces. Luckily, someone else from the team dons the fedora and retrieves the code.

My team consists of members from various chapters of the Dirtbag Geocaching Society, headquartered in Aberdeen. I’m on a tour with the DGS in hopes to discover how geocaching works and if I’m cut out for such a hobby. As a teenager, I did a lot of orienteering, so I figured I’d love it. (And spoiler alert, I did. I’m hooked.) I wasn’t surprised to find geocachers in the area, but I was surprised to find a group that had chapters in multiple states. DGS has members in 10 states, including Michigan, South Carolina, Georgia, California and Colorado.

My adventure, thankfully, didn’t start at the death-defining bridge, but at the Waffle House on US 1, apparently the unofficial meeting place of hungry geocachers. So far, so good. Can’t do any geocaching on an empty stomach. Alton Gilstrap and Robert Velado, the founders of DGS, greeted me with warm handshakes, both carrying an affable yet mischievous-in-a-fun-way look about them.

The duo, I learn, started the group in 2010. Robert and Alton worked together, and after another co-worker suggested geocaching as a way to spend time with his kids, Alton tried it, was instantly hooked and got Robert on board. It was soon all they could focus on. Even lunch hours were devoted to caching, coming back to work muddy and out of breath from running around to see how many caches they could

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find. “Our co-workers thought we were crazy,” Alton recalls. DGS was born.

The way these guys talked about geocaching, you’d think it was a drug and not a relaxing, fun pastime. Robert says at his peak, he’d find dozens of caches in a day. “On my best day, I found 40.”

As we ate our waffles and drank our copious amounts of coffee, Alton and Robert, aka Striza and Cache Valkyries, went over the basics of geocaching. Caches are placed and the coordinates of the location are catalogued on the geocaching.com website. To participate, simply download the geocaching app, make sure your locations services are on and the app will load all the geocaches in your area. Each geocache has an information page with its size, ratings of difficulty and terrain, and any notes by the placer. There’s also an activity page where geocachers who find or don’t find the cache can leave notes as well as a hint page for people who like to take short cuts (probably the same people who used CliffsNotes in school).

While they follow the spirit of the rules, the Dirtbags, as they like to call themselves, also buck the establishment. The organization that oversees all geocaches, Groundspeak, has guidelines on where and

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how to place caches. It’s not that DGS doesn’t want to follow the rules, they just might have another perspective. Take the rule that caches must be 528 feet apart from each other. DGS doesn’t break this rule, but they do push its limits.

“We started making power trails where every 528 feet we would put a cache,” says Alton. “And then we would put another one 528 feet away, and we would do this for miles. They can’t find anything wrong with it, they just didn’t like it. They don’t like anything we do.”

But for all the “fighting the man” they do, the main purpose of DGS is to keep geocaching fun. “We’ve been accused of stealing caches, but we don’t do that,” Robert explains. “Worse comes to worst, I have a car full of caches so when I go out I’ll replace your cache. If it’s poorly maintained, I’ll maintain it.”

To initiate me into the world of geocaching, DGS placed a simple geocache, called a traditional, for me to find. It was behind the parking lot of the Waffle House - a real concrete jungle trek. There was some rebar, so there was an element of danger, and the geocache was a box wrapped in green tape to make it blend into its surroundings.

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That was lesson No. 1 for me, not that I was counting. You can be right on top of a geocache and not see it. Sure, you get the coordinates, but that doesn’t mean there will be a flashing light on it. This is when it’s important to know the size of your cache. When you’re in the middle of the woods, it’s handy to know if you’re looking for something the size of a film canister or a bread box. We found our concrete jungle, tape-wrapped box within 3 minutes, so definitely a training wheels geocache. Probably a good one to start your kids on. Inside were a set of dog tags and some fast food toys, as well as a little pad of paper that served as a log book. First geocache done. Onto bigger and better things.

Bigger and better turned out to be that cable bridge of death located on Camp Mackall, then another just down the road hidden in the woods under a bright orange pylon, which is almost like a flashing light, I guess, and finally a stop at the Addor Cemetery. It’s not a party until you’ve visited at least one cemetery. Unfortunately, the cemetery cache was nowhere to be found. More than a half dozen people searching high and low for an ammo box, the container of this particular cache, in a cemetery was probably an interesting sight. Robert explains ammo boxes are popular and have a tendency to grow legs.

We ended the tour on the missing geocache, which admittedly, was sort of a let down after the high of finding the other two. I now understood Robert’s earlier comment about obsessively attempting to find 40 caches in one day. I didn’t want to stop. I wanted to keep going, but I’d have to do that on my own time. The team had a gathering planned at the Railhouse Brewery with a few other members who joined us only after the death-defying work was done. Lunch, a few cold ones and some fun giveaways later, and my first geocaching adventure was over.

I think when all was said and done, though, Indy would have been proud.

Check out the geocache I survived

“Pineland: Contra Code” placed by Scott Cole, Southern Pines

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Hints for Newbies,from a Newbie

• Get the app. It’s free so there’s no excuse.

• Dress properly. In my case, I’m glad I wore boots. We trekked into woods that I’m sure had plenty of ticks. I also wore long pants and sweated like a pig. It was a good look for me.

• Pay attention to ratings, both terrain and difficulty. Don’t bite off more than you can chew on your first few adventures.

• Sign the logbook. This is the perfect time to create an alter-ego. No, I’m not telling you mine.

• Keep in mind that some caches get stolen. Check the cache info page to make sure you’re not searching in vain. Or if everybody else has found it, search a little bit longer.

• Bring along a bag of items to exchange. Dog tags, Happy Meal toys, foreign coins, pretty much anything small that might be interesting to someone else.

• DGS isn’t the only geocaching group in the area. Another group in the area is the Pineland Geocaching Group. Reach out and you’ll be surprised how many fellow cachers there are in Moore County.

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At the TableAutumn is the time to break out those squash

recipes. Sure, pumpkin gets a lot of the fanfare this time of year, although Starbucks released its famous and possibly addictive Pumpkin Spice Latte in August, but keep an eye out for a variety of winter squash at the

markets, both super and farmers.

Sauté onions, garlic and peppers in the olive oil over medium heat in pan until translucent. Add the squash and cook, stirring frequently, for 15 minutes. At this point, sneak a piece of squash out of the pan and make sure it is near tender. If it is, add chicken stock, stirring until evaporated, then add cream and reduce until nearly dry. Season with salt and pepper. If it’s not, continue cooking a bit longer until tender, and then proceed with the chicken stock and cream. You can add cooked bacon or sausage to this as well.

Squash Hashcourtesy of Kim Folken,chef at Filly & Colt’s in Longleaf Country ClubServes 6

1/2 cup yellow onion, diced1 clove garlic minced fine½ cup diced peppers(red, yellow, green or mixed)2 tablespoons olive oil4 cups assorted diced winter squash (or just one type, depending on what you have on hand)Salt and fresh ground pepper to taste1 cup chicken stock3 tablespoons heavy cream

This has a very earthy flavor and is great for breakfast,

brunch, lunch or dinner. Perfect for dinner, with a nice grilled

pork chop and collard greens.

Squash

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Squash in the SandhillsButternut Squash and Goat Cheese LasagnaAshten’s Restaurant & Ashten’s A’Field140 E. New Hampshire Avenue, Southern PinesPair with: Cantine Povero Tumlin Roero

Pumpkin PieThe Bakehouse120 N. Poplar Street, AberdeenPair with: Pumking made by Southern Tier Brewing CompanyXocoveza made by Stone Brewing Company

Roasted Delicata Squash and Pear Saladwith Spiced Pecans*Filly & Colt’s Longleaf Country Club, Southern Pines*recipe on our websitePair with: Domaine LeJeune Bourgogne Blanc

Triangle Wine Company recommends

Southern TierPumking

$6.99Stone

Xocoveza$9.17

Cantine PoveroTumlin Roero

$25.95

Domaine LeJeuneBourgogne Blanc

$19.99

From the Narragansett Indian word ‘askutasquash’;

Pilgrims shortened it to ‘squash.’

Field pumpkins are for carving, Sugar pie pumpkins are for, you guessed it, pies.

Popular VarietiesAcorn

ButternutDelicata

Spaghetti

The Not-As-PopularBut Still Delicious

VarietiesHubbardKabocha

Blue HokkaidoSweet Dumpling

squash|skwäSH|

noun1. an edible gourd, the flesh of

which may be cooked and eaten as a vegetable.

Check out our Pinterest Board –

Squashed – for recipes, cooking techniques &

decorating ideas.

Photo: Matt M

cKenzie

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The Interview

Dr. Robert Grimeseyby Greg Girard

“CALL ME BOB” IS HOW HE INTRODUCED HIMSELF. I had just been buzzed through the secure doors to his office at the Moore County School’s administration building in Carthage.

Robert Grimesey had been on the job as the new superintendent of Moore County Schools for just under two months when I visited him in late August, and he somehow managed to look simultaneously tired and energized, admitting this was the first full day he’d had in his office since taking over.

An educator for more than 30 years in Virginia, Grimesey was superintendent for two Virginia school districts, and before that, a principal and teacher. He even had a short stint as a journalist in the 1970s. Married to his wife, Carol, since 1982, Grimesey has three grown children: a son, John, and daughters, Sarah and Hannah.

In his office, which was already adorned with plaques and diplomas of past achievements, including the national Outstanding Superintendent Award for 2012 and his ownership certificate for the Green Bay Packers, we talked for nearly two hours, our conversation weaving from the professional to the deeply personal. His passion for education is readily apparent, and I got the sense this is a man who feels there are never enough hours in the day.

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Welcome to Moore County. You’ve been here a few months now; how’s it going?It’s been busy. To be perfectly frank, my wife is still in Virginia trying to get the house sold. When I have the chance, I get home every three or four weeks to see her or she comes down here.

The people of Moore County have an amazing way of making you feel at home, even when you’re in transition. Everywhere I’ve gone and everyone I’ve met, even people who have concerns about things, are just incredibly warm and friendly and polite and very welcoming.

There was this whole celebration of my arrival. One could get caught up in all that attention and get a little self-centered about it, but the message for me was that the arrival of a new superintendent is very important for people. The message to the new superintendent was the mission you have coming to this community is important to us and we’re grateful you’ve come here to do it. And with that, it adds to my sense of burden on what I’m going to have to deliver here. I got that message and it really is inspiring.

Thirty-plus years in Virginia – what prompted you to start a new chapter in your life and career?My son, who is in the Air Force, before he deployed to Afghanistan, he came to Fort Bragg and on the last few days before he deployed in February 2013, we came down and stayed a few days with him. During that time, he anticipated being assigned to Fort Bragg at some point in the near future, so he was interested in showing us where a lot of his friends live and where he would most likely live. So we took a ride, ate at The Sly Fox and then rode around Southern Pines and the Aberdeen area. And we really were surprised at how much was here. Of course, we learned this was the home of the famous Pinehurst golf courses.

Out of interest, when I got home I did a little research and I learned that there was a young man as superintendent here who seemed very capable, they had just hired him 12 months before, and so I kind of just shrugged my shoulders and said, well, no sense in being tempted by that one. Pretty much left it at that.

My son goes to Afghanistan, finishes his deployment, and he’s back at the Air Force base in Okinawa, and an assignment to Fort Bragg is looking more real.

So we’re on the phone with him and we’re Googling, looking for housing for him. You know, should he buy, should he rent.

And afterward, I told him I’d do some more research and so I’m Googling and up pops “Moore County School Board Seeks Public Input for New Superintendent.” And my wife remembers me saying, “Honey, we have a problem.”

So you decided to apply?I looked at the application, which the board published based on input from the community, and it was the ugliest looking beast I had ever encountered in my life. I mean, essay questions, long answer questions, questions that demanded if you didn’t do detailed research you were going to come across as a fool. Blood samples, I mean this was worse than a doctoral dissertation. Knowing this, I knew I was going to have to surrender the next multiple weekends.

And the application forced me to really get into the details, to read the local media, to do everything I could. It was a lot of work but it was also easy, because I was finding myself drawn in to this vision of “growing to greatness” and the commitment I saw here.

Did it in some ways allow you to revisit your philosophy on education?Absolutely. Absolutely. And there was alignment there. I was rediscovering long-lost loves that took me back to the 1980s and ’90s when our assumptions on student achievement were founded on how we motivate learners as opposed to how we terrify teachers. I saw a commitment there that really resonated with my ideas of how we promote change in this environment.

But it also took me back to that time before this onslaught of standardized testing when we used to really still be committed to higher student achievement. Some people, particularly politicians, think that we made this commitment to higher student achievement when they and publishing companies decided to make a lot of money with standardized testing.

Could we have been more robust in areas? Absolutely. Could we have been more accountable? Absolutely we could. Did we deserve the imposition of a system that then allowed the tail to wag the dog? No, we didn’t. It was not that bad.

And what I saw in Moore County was one that was trying, struggling to find that balance. We’ve had shifts between data running the decisions and decisions running the data.

The best place to be for everyone involved, especially the children and our families, is a school division that brings a good balance between accountability and autonomy for teachers and creativity.

North Carolina teachers are paid fourth-lowest in the country, so it’s not surprising there are challenges in attracting high-quality teachers. But there’s the other side to that issue as well, which is the morale of current teachers. How do you plan to address retention and the morale of current teachers in Moore County?

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Across the board, teachers on the North Carolina Teacher Working Conditions survey indicate that they’re struggling in many respects, including their sense of trust and confidence in the system. Even with all the supports we have, Moore County teachers tend to lag even a little bit lower than other teachers throughout the state. That has got my attention and it’s got the school board’s attention. So that has actually been, out of the box, my primary focus since I arrived.

I also devoured the survey data submitted by employees and the community for the superintendent search. And throughout this summer, that has been a conversation topic as I’ve met with each principal.

When you approach a new series, you’re asking people to change things that are very meaningful to them. For example, our literacy framework. We had some pilot implementation of “Journeys” and literacy framework two years ago and last year we did a division-wide implementation and did both at the same time. Clearly that was a bit much.

You don’t have to have dramatic change every year. Incremental change is more effective. But we’ve paid that price, so this is the year to refine what we started last year and to have those rich conversations with our practitioners to know how to make it better and maybe, where

possible, reintroduce some things that are enriched by the experiences of our teachers. This will be the year where we begin to refine those initiatives.

Is that why when you were sworn in you talked about a “business of continual improvement”? Is that the idea?Yes. Continuous revolution can be exhausting. Continuous improvement, I think, everyone can get their brains and hearts around.

What’s one thing that concerns you most about the state’s handling of education?I share the concern of many on the continued deterioration of local school board authority. The more you remove that authority, the less able your local school board is to respond to the interests of your community, parents and teachers. And so I am surprised, in a state with a conservative philosophy, that there seems to be a degree of inattentiveness to the conservative virtue of local autonomy and authority. I find that surprising, and it is one I look forward to opening a dialogue with our legislators about.

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the Top initiative has further diminished the autonomy of teachers, local schools and local school boards. I am very suspicious of any evaluation process where a local teacher and local principal receive an evaluation rating from a source outside the community that nobody knows. And the actual process in place in North Carolina is open to criticism in that the actual standard is quite low.

And in the meantime, the most unfortunate outcome is that it creates great fear and mistrust at the local level. I’ve already spend time with principals and teachers helping them to see that the standard is so low that it presents very little to fear and that’s regrettable. Because I think if left alone, myself and our division staff and our principals could work with our teachers to develop a level of self-accountability that would be quite substantially higher than what the federal government has compelled the state to impose.

And let me just add, North Carolina is home to the Research Triangle and has absolutely no business having teacher salaries ranked in the bottom 33 percent, let along the bottom 10 percent, of our nation’s states. Everyone knows that and it is my view that we need to get about the business of fixing that.

Does it concern you at all about this commission that has been established to review Common Core? To its credit, North Carolina’s approach really has been to overlay the Common Core over the essential standards, but at the grassroots level, those of us that train teachers are then challenged to work with two levels of assessment, two levels of curriculum. It’s more stuff.

And so we are challenged, not enabled. Rather than supported, we are challenged now to do a lot of work at the local level that one would question the value of to help teachers understand all this. Helping our teachers just understand what they want is a big part of what we do. And I’m determined to simplify that conversation at the local level as much as I can.

What’s your feeling about vouchers?I concur with the Moore County school board that our community needs to be very mindful of the mix. I believe if I were a private school headmaster, particularly one that was head of a faith-based organization, all I need to look at is the debate over the impact of the health care act and the mix of faith-based medicine as an example of what can occur when there’s a mix of public funds with a private

school’s mission. And so, not to deprive any of my colleagues in private

education of the wherewithal to fulfill their mission, if I were them, I would be tempted and attracted in the same way. But I would say be ye careful as one who has dealt with those strings forever. Think before you act. Remember, I was one of five people who advised the Virginia government, who turned down millions of dollars in federal aid under Race to the Top. So if I were a faith-based private school institution, I would advise my board accordingly, be ye careful.

I’m interested in hearing what your plans are for connecting with the community, with parents and organizations.Say yes to the invitations. Believe me, they’re not waiting on me to reach out. Connecting to the community in Moore County is no problem for the superintendent. The

community just comes right in and grabs you. I’m telling you, I can’t remember everybody I’ve met. I’ve had more lunches and dinners and met more interesting people. It’s easy in Moore County. Really, it is.

Any time a group gets together and wants to talk about schools, I’ll do backflips to get there. That’s the informal piece.

On a formal basis, we’ve looked at our community advisory committee structures. We’ve decided to restructure the parent advisory committee. Attendance was not the best by the end of last year and the superintendent did not attend

regularly. So we’re going to call this the Parent Advisory Committee to the Superintendent and I’m going to be at every meeting. And I’m hoping we’ll have one or two representatives from every school at every meeting. They’ll be open meetings, anybody can come, but I want at least a representative and an alternate from every school who commits to coming to every meeting.

The first meeting of that group won’t occur until October and that’s purposeful because I want every principal to create their own similar group, and I want those groups to meet in September.

Now obviously, these 23 people don’t necessarily represent everyone, but they bring a parent perspective and it happens to be that Moore County is quite diverse, so if you poll a parent perspective of a lot of different communities, you’re going to get a real blend.

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You mentioned the diversity of Moore County. What plans do you have to meet with the various organizations representing that diversity?Yes, the other point of focus I want to have is a Minority Advisory Committee to the Superintendent. You don’t just say minority community here, you say minority communities.

We want to come together, we want to look at the very concerning gaps in academic achievement, we want to look at the very concerning gaps in patterns of disciplinary activity, particularly suspensions. I want to learn more about the variation in percentage of participation of minorities in our academically and intellectually gifted programs and advanced studies.

I want to get to the core causes. I don’t want to be putting Band-Aids on symptoms. I want to work with the community, staff and school board to really get down and see what we can do substantively to maximize opportunities for all of our children, whether white, black, Latino, or students with disabilities. I want our children that come with high IQ’s to be challenged and those that come from families with very prosperous incomes to feel challenged. And I also want our children from homes where there’s economic struggle, I want them to know the opportunity and support is there.

Big job, big job. But I’m pretty impressed with the response to the message and I think that we’ve got some good times ahead. But we’ve got a lot of work to do.

One of the main concerns in the community is overcrowding in schools. There’s been a facility study and now there is a facility plan in place. Are you happy with the plan? Well, let’s start with the plan. The plan includes major projects and substantial projects, and all of them have one thing in common: They all need to be done right now. None of them can wait. Right now. And so really, the only reason why we’re not doing them all right now is because we simply can’t afford it. Now, how did we get here? Well, our whole approach is that we’ve behaved like the hare – all on or all off. We haven’t opened a new school now in, I believe, going on six years. Can’t afford that.

Now, those six years happened to have been pretty tough years economically, so I’m not pointing fingers. But even in hard times, the successful businesses are the businesses that actually invested when everybody else wasn’t investing. And successful communities sometimes are the ones as well. Doesn’t mean you have to bet the house, but your willingness to sometimes take moderate risk is what yields you the prize later on. And so when I look at that plan, the board did its due diligence. It went through a political process, where it listed schools at the top of the list

to do in the next year or two and then those to do in three to five and so forth. That was driven by political necessity and good practice. They had to do that.

I support breaking ground next year on the project that the board of commissioners and the school board are able to come to consensus on. But at the same time, I want to be designing the next one with a commitment to break ground no more than 12 to 24 months later. When that happens, we’re designing the next one. We’re in a position where we cannot afford to kick the can down the road. The only option in my view that is not available in Moore County is nothing. Nothing is the only option that is not an option. It’s not when, it’s how soon.

If we look at the elementary schools and middle schools that are on the list, we know that we can start building quicker. But if we are going to break ground, we’ve got to own ground. So what the public needs to be looking for in the coming months, from myself and from both boards (school board and county commissioners), is are they acquiring property and are they naming dates to get started.

How are you going to equate success in your job?By whatever means possible. I would like to hear our parents and teachers say “Well done, thou good and faithful servant” at some point in the future. I’d like to know I’ve served them to fulfill what they’re called to do as parents and teachers. Ultimately, those are my customers. Obviously, I’d like my school board to feel that I’ve served them well. But I’d like to hear that.

I’d like to be around at a faculty meeting when the teachers see that they met all their growth targets. That would be kind of the first baby step. Then the next one would be I’d like to be present when they see their students actually achieved proficiency targets, which are a little bit more rigorous. Just be there. And to know that when they did it, they didn’t do it by compromising who they were. That they actually did it in a way where they felt autonomous, they felt creative and they still got there. Their kids still met the targets.

I’d like to see, over the next several administrations, Moore County teachers feeling more satisfied about their work relative to their peers in North Carolina. I’d like to see that. If I don’t see it, I’ll have to evaluate myself harshly.

I’d like to see our on-time graduation rate continue to climb, and that would include our children with disabilities. I’d like to see our dropout rate continue to decline and that would include our children most at risk.

I would like to see myself being able to get out of the office and break free of the necessary demands of adult interaction and be exposed to children in the classroom myself. Be able to manage by walking around as much as I possibly can, even if it wears me out.

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I’d like to work long enough to see great teachers staying in Moore County - feeling so fulfilled that they stay here. I’d like to see some of them who choose to become leaders themselves and become principals. I’d like to see senior staff members and principals go on to be superintendents.

And finally, I’d like to somehow be able to measure the sense of worth and value I’ve offered to families of active military personnel. We’ve got about 20-25 percent of our children with parents who are active military. And as everyone knows who lives here, they’re not just your normal active military. Because of what I know about my son’s work, I know about their work. My son came home with a Bronze Star and Purple Heart and one of the reasons why he hasn’t deployed since last August is because he is still on the mend from what precipitated the Purple Heart.

We have great faith, we are greatly encouraged by his continued recuperation and restoration and we are hopeful he will fulfill his dream of getting back to full-

time duty before long. But that experience … when I met with our military family liaison, it occurred to me, when they talk about the challenge of helping a 5-year-old come to terms with what their daddy is going through [after being injured], I was mindful of what my wife and I have experienced.

This is a special place in a lot of ways and I’m here because I choose to be. And it started with two selfish parents who just want to live near their son and it’s ended up being a very passionate desire to do good, however you define it. I think that given the needs of this

community and this school district … If I could just hear “Well done, thou good and faithful servant” after I’ve done this one, I will have heard it three times in three different communities. And it’s important to me. The thought of disappointing them would be heartbreaking. And I know I may have to from time to time … if even just on a snow day. I just consider it an honor and privilege to be here.

The best place to be for everyone involved, especially the children and our families, is a school division that brings a good balance between accountability and autonomy for

teachers and creativity.

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Thanks to the Master Gardeners of Moore County for their expertise in all things green in the Sandhills.

Special thanks to Dr. Gloria Polakof for her guidance and patience.

Set out garlic cloves and continue to plant onions.

5.

There is still time left to plant perennial seeds and bulbs. Most spring flowering bulbs should be in the ground by October, with the exception of tulips, which can be planted until November.

1.

Check all your outdoor sprinklers. Make sure they are drained and off for the season.

2.

Paperwhites and amaryllis are ideal bulbs for forcing indoors for the holidays. Start now. These are great plants for children to grow and care for and are easy holiday gifts for Grandma or friends.

3.

Clean out the dead or dying annuals and replace them with cold season options like pansies, dusty miller, kale or decorative cabbage.

4.

Order seed catalogs now for garden planning in January. Also, keep a garden journal to document plants that worked and those that didn’t.

6.

Many deciduous trees prefer to be pruned in late autumn or winter. Check before you trim to ensure.

7.Photo credits:Main: Ginny; 1. Liz West;

2. Shaylor; 3. Rachel Chang; 4. Spiderwort; 5. Corey

Harmon; 6. David Goehring; 7. Kylie Kae.

GardenVariety

I hope that while so many

people are out smelling the flowers,

someone is taking the time to plant some.

- Herbert Rappaport

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It was a balmy Thursday evening on the patio of Triangle Wine. We sat around a table sharing a “nice Belgian” home brew as I attempted to gauge and embrace the passion being explained to me. I nodded enthusiastically as the conversation turned toward worts and bungs, and my skepticism

as to the real purpose of the meeting faded as quickly as the Belgian in my glass. This wasn’t a bunch of guys creating an excuse to drink on the weekday. This was an undeniable obsession. This was the Southern Hopheads homebrew club. And it was a damn good beer.

Fast-forward a month, and I’m looking in a doorway at a three-stack burner, tucked just under the garage roof, with Josh Kilgore, Southern Hopheads’ vice president and my guide through the world of hops, malt and fermentation, standing somewhat precariously on a chair as he fills one of three large kettles with water.

“Hey, man, come on in,” he says with more energy than should be expected on an early Sunday morning. “We’re making buckwheat sour amber today.” Well, all right then. Let’s get brewing.

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In fact, according to the American Homebrewers Association (AHA), there are 1.2 million home brewers in the U.S., with nearly 800,000 concocting their first brew within the last 10 years. Collectively, the AHA estimates home brewers produce 2 million barrels of brew a year (about 1 percent of the total U.S. production).

Rising like the yeast during fermentation a year ago, Southern Hopheads was born from a simple passion for beer. Or, as most of the founders will emphasize … good beer. How it’s made, the traditions and science behind it. And the pleasure of enjoying and sharing their creations with others. Justin Staffel, president of Southern Hopheads, puts it a bit more succinctly, saying, “Who doesn’t like making beer? I haven’t met anyone yet who said, ‘I don’t want to do this anymore.’”

The club boasts 100 registered users on their website and 50 paid members. The members, predominantly men, come from all walks of life: IT specialist, military, pharmacist. There are those that are curious and looking for advice on the best starter kit, and those that are impassioned, dreaming of their own microbrewery one day. But to a person, they are accommodating, especially when asked questions with answers that border on common sense, and are ready and willing to share their hobby with anyone who asks.

On the first Thursday of each month, you can find these Hopheads sharing and discussing the latest member concoctions of Chocolate Stout, Mango Wheat, Pale Ale and Dunkelweizen - the atmosphere relaxed, social but with a clear understanding the conversation is about the art of brewing. And brew days happen just about every weekend with one or more members, often with open invites for anyone wanting to stop by and talk brewing.

“We’re just going to see where it takes us,” says Brian Weiss, another founder of the club. “We’d love to do festivals, public pours, have more brew days down the road.”

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Beer, it’s the best damn drink in the world. - Jack Nicholson

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The Art of BrewingPart chemical precisionist, part mad scientist, I

listen to Josh run through the steps of an all-grain brew, and it quickly becomes apparent my first brew is a distinctly advanced experience.

Four different malts, some for the rich amber color, some for the sugar and flavor, are milled together in a bucket as fire is put to the tanks. Buckwheat is milled as well and boiled separately before being added to the mash (see terminology). The top tank offers the water for sparging, the middle for creating the mash and the bottom for boiling the buckwheat and then later receiving the wort.

I learn that all-grain brews offer more flavor, that the lower the pH level the sourer the brew, that gravity is not used just by Isaac Newton’s followers but also refers to the level of alcohol, and that brewing takes patience and time. A batch brewed today could take 6 weeks to years before being enjoyed.

But, most importantly, I learn that while there are certain temperatures that need to be maintained, that sanitation of equipment is essential, and that you need knowledge of basic chemistry but not a degree, the rest is left to the brewer’s imagination. An alchemist’s dream.

“Since I’ve started to like good beer, I’ve become a little snobby because I’m always looking for something different,” Josh says as he stirs the mash with a miniature stainless-steel paddle. “The cool thing is you can be as creative and intuitive as you want as long as you know the science.”

Take his Cucumber Basil Saison (pale ale) or Rhubarb Saison or Banana Nutbread Wheat. He even brewed a batch that went perfectly with chocolate chip cookies.

“The making of beer is like a college kid making macaroni and cheese, with a little bit more finesse,” says Josh with a grin.

While the mash boils, Josh takes me back to his sanctuary, the alchemist’s workspace - a temperature-controlled room for optimal fermenting that’s dedicated to his artistic outlets. The walls are decorated with his drawings, striking sketches with a hint of macabre, the floor and ledge lined with carboys and bottles of fermenting brews. He opens the fridge and, although not fully ready, we try one of his latest. It offers hints of banana.

“I learned through trial and error,” Josh explains. “I did my first batch three years ago, using a crappy starter kit. But I learned as long as you’re in the ballpark, you’re good. It’s like food: You’re layering flavors. This is home brewing.”

We’re back in the garage. Sparging begins, with the top tank spraying hot water on the cooked mash, the resulting wort filtering down into the bottom tank, 10 gallons flowing out in a rich amber color. The wort is brought to a boil and hops are added to bring bitterness to the beer and to act as a preservative. We take a break then; the wort must cool before being transferred into the carboys for fermentation.

When I return, Josh explains he added yeast and clove honey to the wort. A coiled emergent chiller is floating in the now cooled, sugary infusion and it’s time to siphon our buckwheat sour amber into the carboys for fermentation.

Finished, we stand back and admire several hours of work. Josh begins cleaning the tanks and I wonder when we can enjoy this newest brew. “Come back, we’ll all enjoy it next year,” Josh says. Such is the life of the home brewer.

“The making of beer is like a college kid making macaroni and cheese, with a little bit more finesse.” - Josh Kilgore

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What you needBrewing, like most hobbies, has a wide range of equipment options and financial commitment. From starter kits using a pot, fermenting bucket and siphon for $70, to a propane barrel brewing system for $4,500, the cost is relative to your passion. To get a taste for brewing, however, you don’t need much. There are many home-brewing companies that offer starter kits from $50 to $200, and often they’ll include the ingredients for your first brew. Locally, try the Blue Horse Market in Whispering Pines or Bull City Home Brew in Durham.

TerminologyWort – The sugar solution after mashing the malt and boiling in the hops (beer before fermentation)Mash - A mixture of malt (and other grains) and hot waterMashing – The process of mixing malt, other grains and hot water to create the wortMalt – Processed grains that have been germinated and dried for brewingHops – Plant used to create the bitter flavor in beerSparging – Spraying or filtering the spent mash grains with hot water to retrieve liquid sugar from the maltGravity – Level of alcohol in the beerPitching – Adding yeast to cooled wort to begin fermentationFermentation – The chemical process, using yeast, of converting sugar into ethyl alcoholCarboy – A large glass, plastic or earthenware bottle used for fermentationBung – A sealing stopper

Tips• Join Southern Hopheads. You’ll get your questions

answered and you can talk everything beer the first Thursday of each month as well as receive invites to brew days.

• Make sure you pitch the proper amount of yeast and place your fermenter in a room with a temperature in the range of your yeast strain.

• Keep it simple to start. Try an extract batch to begin, then move on to a partial mash and then an all-grain mash.

• Don’t panic. “Beer wants to be beer, so don’t freak out.” Part of home brewing is building up your knowledge and learning through trial and error. Be prepared for mistakes and roll with them.

• Have fun and enjoy.

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Last WordAutumn Lovin’

a balanced approach to a fit lifeby Bridget Anthony

In today’s social market, we are constantly assaulted with new diets, pills and workouts. And all plastered over the top of some beautiful

body that we all suspect was not achieved by those means.

Nevertheless, this cultural bombardment can often set us on an emotional tailspin of frustration that we aren’t disciplined enough or genetically blessed enough. None of that is true, by the way, it’s just that the six-pack visual given to us is not equal to the effort represented by the bottle of pills.

Well, perhaps I can deliver you from some of that frustration. No sugarcoating or airbrushing here, though. Bottom line: To look like an athlete, you have to behave like an athlete and that takes work … a lot of work.

I entered the fitness industry at age 14, when I joined my high school track team and began volunteering at my local YMCA in the gym. What attracted me to the industry? Well, to put it bluntly, I was fat, so it was vanity. That’s the honest truth. Feel free to judge me. And I admit I wanted to look like all those magazine pictures too.

Fast-forward many years, and I still don’t have “the look.” But, I discovered something along the way. The people we see on magazines and bill-boards don’t look like that either! It’s all about the best angle, makeup, preparation and, most often, Photoshop.

In my 20s, I went through quite a bit of self-discovery with regard to fitness and the

aesthetics associated with it. In 2009, I did a fitness competition, and I learned a lot through the process as a fitness professional. But as me, as Bridget, I also experienced terrible self-sabotage that I never believed possible. It brought out every demon in me - feeling low, unworthy, ugly, fat and every other negative adjective you can think of. It was a huge wake-up call, and it forever changed my fitness philosophy and the way I coach. I began looking for my sweet spot of feeling great, looking great and being healthy.

We have a mantra at TFS: The results from the neck down are a result of the work from the neck up. Yes, you have to do the physical work and eat well, but beyond that, you have to change your mindset and find your sweet spot. You have to believe that you are worthy.

I believe fitness journeys, particularly weight-loss battles, are tests of self-love. That has to come first. You’re probably thinking, that’s easier said than done. And you’re right. But here’s what I can tell you about finding your sweet spot. You will not find it in extremes. The key is balance, and you find balance only when you forgive yourself for all those mad-at-the-world, self-imposed accusations of lack of discipline. Put your effort toward disci-plining yourself to love you the same on the day you get derailed as on the days you’re rocking it. I had to learn to love me and I wish the same for you. Remember how blessed you are, then smile, move and have fun.

Cheers to a great fall!

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