open fittings and rite (vents in hearing aids) ventilation and rite... · not the volume!!! larger...
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Open Fittings and RITE
(vents in hearing aids)
Summercamp 2008
Lars Bramsløw, Ph.D.
Audiology, Oticon A/S
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Program
Why: Occlusion
How: A little physics….
What: Different shapes
Side effects: Howl, ’thin’ sound, echo
Directionality / Noise reduction
Other RITE advantages
Wrap up
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Program
Why: Occlusion
How: A little physics….
What: Different shapes
Side effects: Howl, ’thin’ sound, echo
Directionality / Noise reduction
Other RITE advantages
Wrap up
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Occlusion
Frequency, Hz
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Heari
ng
Lev
el,
dB
HL
125 250 500 1000 2000 4000 8000
Risk
Less or none
Increased own voice sound pressure
/u/ with different vents. HA turned off
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Solutions
Reduce LF gain? - ’occlusion manager’
Occlusion can NOT be removed by means of amplification!
Deep fittings – To the bony part
For example Sebotek (BTE), CIC
Vent as large as possible
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Program
Why: Occlusion
How: A little physics….
What: Different shapes
Side effects: Howl, ’thin’ sound, echo
Directionality / Noise reduction
Other RITE advantages
Wrap up
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Acoustic Mass
Acoustic mass =
Constant * (effective vent length / vent diameter2)
Typical dimensions:
BTE: Length19 mm, Diameter = 0 - 4mm
ITE: Length19 mm, Diameter = 0 – 3 mm
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Acoustic Mass
..depends on the opening area and the length
NOT the shape.
NOT the volume!!!
Larger mass needs lower tones to move
mg
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The vent is an acoustic low pass filter
The acoustic mass is too heavy for the high frequencies
Allows low frequencies to pass
The cut-off frequency depends on the acoustic mass
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Outgoing (lost) sound
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100 1000 10000
dB
Hz
Outgoing Response re closed mold
Closed
1.0 mm
1.3 mm
2.0 mm
3.4 mm
5.0 mm
Open mold
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-30
-20
-10
0
10
20
100 1000 10000
dB
Hz
Incoming response re no mold
1.0 mm
1.3 mm
2.0 mm
3.4 mm
5.0 mm
Open mold
Incoming sound
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Program
Why: Occlusion
How: A little physics….
What: Different shapes
Side effects: Howl, ’thin’ sound, echo
Directionality / Noise reduction
Other RITE advantages
Wrap up
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How about short vents?
Shorter vent is more open:
Diameter (mm)
Standard BTE
vent
(19 mm)
0 1.4 2.4 4.0
Micro Mould
vent
(7 mm)
0
No
vent
0.8
S
1.4
M
2.4
L
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How about domes?
The vent length in Open Dome is VERY
short => small acoustic mass
=> very open vent
~ 9-10 mm BTE vent
For Plus Dome the vent is longer and the
area is smaller
=> Larger acoustics mass
=> Not as open
~ 3-4 mm BTE vent
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Program
Why: Occlusion
How: A little physics….
What: Different shapes
Side effects: Howl, ’thin’ sound, echo
Directionality / Noise reduction
Other RITE advantages
Wrap up
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Side effects:
Just do it! ??
Howling – feedback
‘thin’ sound – not enough LF gain
Echo/timbre – there is a delay through the HA
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Howl
Larger vent = larger risk
Solution: Lower HF gain
Solution: Anti-feedback system to obtain target gain
Especially for open fittings!
Thin sound
Lack of LF gain
Target not reached
Close the vent?
Increase HA LF gain?
How?
The literature: real-ear ->
coupler gain
transformations.
NAL-NL1 suggests 100%.
Simple physics suggests
this solution.
High demands on LF gain
and MPO!!!
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-30
-20
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0
10
20
100 1000 10000
dB
Hz
Outgoing Response re closed mold
Closed
1.0 mm
1.3 mm
2.0 mm
3.4 mm
5.0 mm
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Low frequency vent compensation
Our listening tests show that full LF compensation is to much
Boomy sound…
Pushes the HA LF output to the limits -> saturation
Oticon uses 50 % compensation
gain
Frequency
Target
Actual
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How about open fittings?
Impossible to compensate in LF
Problems with sound quality
Stay tuned…
Better to turn off LF bands in
the HA and use incoming sound
only (IG = 0)
For example Delta
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-30
-20
-10
0
10
20
100 1000 10000
dB
Hz
Incoming response re no mold
1.0 mm
1.3 mm
2.0 mm
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How about Streamer/DAI/FM?
No incoming sound!
Target: 100% compensation
Epoq: In the Streamer program
As much as possible…
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-10
0
10
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100 1000 10000
dB
Hz
Outgoing Response re closed mold
Closed1.0 mm1.3 mm2.0 mm
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The sound through a digital HA is delayed..
Delay < 10 ms can be perceived as timbre changes
(‘pipe’ sound…)
Delay > 10 ms can be perceived as echo / reverberance
Delay > 20 ms may cause lip-reading (sync) problems
Echo / timbre
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Is delay a problem?
May not be audible for HI
Recent results: 5 – 10 ms is equally bad
Sounds like a pipe / seashell
Trouble if the two sound contributions are about equal
So: more or less gain in the HA!!
Experiment with removing LF gain up to an increasing
frequency (high pass).
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Program
Why: Occlusion
How: A little physics….
What: Different shapes
Side effects: Howl, ’thin’ sound, echo
Directionality / Noise reduction
Other RITE advantages
Wrap up
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Directionality and noise reduction
…in conflict with incoming sound
Noise reduction:
Less LF damping
Problem? Must reduce vent size.
No LF DIR
Most critical speech information placed higher in frequency
(especially 1-3 kHz)
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Testing DIR and vents
N=30 ITE and ITC users (Oticon Syncro).
Average collection vent size: 2.4mm (range: 1 – 3mm)
Dantale2, speech from the front, noise from behind:
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Program
Why: Occlusion
How: A little physics….
What: Different shapes
Side effects: Howl, ’thin’ sound, echo
Directionality / Noise reduction
Other RITE advantages
Wrap up
RITE - Receiver In The Ear
Amplifier Unit
ReceiverSound Wire
(thin wire that connects the
receiver to the amplifier)
Delivery of sound straight to
the eardrum
No tube resonance
No calibrating corrections
Best possible platform for
delivery of the clearest
sound
Peaks in the
response due to:
A. Receiver Placement
B. Tone hook
C. Length and diameter
of tube
And also
1. Moisture build up in
tube
2. Stiffness of Tube Wall
Tube Resonance
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Program
Why: Occlusion
How: A little physics….
What: Different shapes
Side effects: Howl, ’thin’ sound, echo
Directionality / Noise reduction
Other RITE advantages
Wrap up
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How is the vent size prescribed?
An important task for fitting
software
The goal is to make the vent as
large as possible without howl
and with sufficient LF gain
Two criteria:
How much gain?
(Hearing loss & rationale/gain rule)
Is anti-feedback activated?
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Sound advice
Occlusion:
Larger vent
Howl:
1. DFC
2. Smaller vent
Thin sound
more LF
Echo/’pipe’ sound
Less LF
Try increasing high-pass cut-off
Directionality
OK…