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TO: CHAIR AND MEMBERS COMMUNITY AND PROTECTIVE SERVICES COMMITTEE

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RECOMMENDATION

That, on the recommendation of the General Manager of Community Services, the following actions BE TAKEN with regards to the design of the new Tharnes Outdoor Pool facility:

a) The following mission statement BE ADOPTED as a central strategy in the design of the new pool:

The mission of the new Thames Outdoor Pool is to serve a broad range of outdoor aquatic program needs, balancing recreationhnstmction, fitness and recreational diving needs with some capacity to host recreational level swim meets (sub-FINA standards)

That this report BE RECEIVED for information purposes it being noted that the civic administration is recommending two preferred design options out of four options analyzed for the new facility for the consideration of the Community and Protective Services Committee that are consistent with the proposed mission statement and take into account comments received by the public during the consultation process:

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Option 3: The original staff recommended design was based on a 25 metre six lane main pool with a variety of additional aquatic amenities designed to maximize pool usage that can be constructed within the current $3.4 million capital budget. An option exists to expand the main tank to 8 lanes at an additional cost of 575.000.

Modified Option 4:A new option that is based on a 50 metre, 8 lane main pool with a variety of additional aquatic amenities designed to maximize facility usage but has a capital budget requirement of $4,000,000, necessitating an increase to the capital budget in the amount of $600,000.

That a public participation meeting BE SCHEDULED for the March 17'h meeting of the Community and Protective Services Committee so that members of Committee can hear delegations related to the two design options prior to Committee making a recommendation to Council, it being noted that a decision by Council will be required by March 24, 2008 in order to facilitate the start of construction following the 2008 operating season of the facility.

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PREVIOUS REPORTS PERTINENT TO THIS MATTER

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ROSS L. FAIR GENERAL MANAGER - COMMUNITY SERVICES

MEETING ON FEBRUARY 11,2008 THAMES POOL REVITALIZATION

Community and Protective Services Committee: May 28,2007 October 29, 2007 October 31, 2007

Allocation of Provincial Capital Grant for Recreation.Facilities Thames Pool Public Consultation Process Thames Pool Capital Replacement Project

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II BACKGROUND I I At its meeting of November 5, 2007, City Council passed the following recommendations from the Community and Protective Services Committee:

That, on the recommendation of the General Manager of Community Services, the process for broader public consultation with respect to the Thames Outdoor Pool Capital Replacement Project (RC2621), as outlined in the October 29, 2007 report from the General Manager of Community Services BE APPROVED for implementation.

In response to this direction, the civic administration retained the consulting firm, Monteith Brown Planning Consultants (MB) to facilitate a consultation process which was designed to confirm the consultation participants desired programmatic elements for consideration in the new Thames Pool revitalization project. In December of 2007 a consultation process was conducted to gather input from various interest groups, community associations and the community at large. A full summary of the consultants finds are included as Appendix I.

Consultation Process The public consultation process provided an opportunity to offer comment on the facility design .

components for the revitalization of the Thames Pool. The process allowed feedback in a number of ways. An advertised town hall style meeting was held which included invitations to all previously interested parties. The Old South and the newly formed South of Horton Community Associations were individually consulted and focus groups were held with competitive swimming and diving as well as masters swimmers and fitness swimmers. An online survey also provided opportunities for residents to give their feedback if they were not able to attend consultation meetings. A student questionnaire was also administered to get feedback from children in relation to their wishes, wants and preferences. Details on the process are identified in the attachment Monteith Brown's report (Appendix I)

Findings from Consultation At all of the consultation meetings three potential pool designs were shared in order to generate discussion and feedback was received on each one. The designs provided a jumping off point for general discussion on facility design features and program functions (Appendices D1-4). Feedback included the desired programmatic elements to be considered in the new Thames Pool.

There is a strong attachment to the currentlexisting design and its elements. The pool's long history in the community makes it a popular and valued asset which is the subject of many nostalgic moments in past user experiences. (MB 7.3).

In order of priority expressed during the consultation process are the following facility/design elements for consideration in the design:

Leisure Pool (MB 5) Water slide (MB 6.1) Spray pad (MB 4)

Greatest support was for a 50 metre pool with 8 lanes. (MB 2.1) Support for elements common to all proposed option design which included provisions for heated water, accessibility, shade and improvements to the bathhouse. (MB 6.2) Diving boards, both 1 and 3 meter heights in a separate well.(MB 3.1 &3.2) 50 Metre 6 lane pool (MB 2.2) Retain a Wading Pool (MB 4) Diving boards 1 and 3 m in the main pool (MB 3.2) Full competitive diving platform (similar to the Canada Games Aquatic Centre) (MB 3.2)

25m 6 lane pool (MB 2.1 & 2.2)


In general much was said about the appropriateness of building another spray pad so close to the existing Forks facility and the general principles of leisure uses of youth and families versus the benefits of fitness swimming and concerns regarding the needs of an aging population.

The feedback regarding the pool is identified at length in the attached Monteith Brown Report. (Appendix 1)

What is the Mission of the New Thamss Outdoor Pool? The new Thames Outdoor Pool must be designed to serve Londoners for the next 20-30 years. To that end it is useful to review local demographics emanating from the 2006 census with projections into the future. Appendix J contains a brief overview; however, the following is notable:

The total child and youth population (0 to 19) will increase slightly between now and 2031; As a proportion of the total population, the 5 to I 9 population will decrease slightly from 19% of the population in 2006 to 15% or 16% in 2031; The adult and older adult population increase in absolute numbers

o As a proportion of the total population, the 20 to 54 age category will decrease from 51% in 2006 to 46% or 47% in 2031;

o The 55+ population will increase from 25% of the population to 33% by 2031.

According to the Canadian Fitness and Lifestyles Institute, trends in participation show that there needs to be a balance of passive and organized activities that can be accommodated in facility design. 34% of children, prefer unorganized activities, and 49% prefer a mix of both. They also want to participate in non-traditional, and non competitive activities. A place of belonging in a fun environment is essential to participation. Designs of new facilities are tending to be more leisure in scope. (Appendix I)

The following section of this report outlines some of the design issues that arise from the debate about the design of the new pool.

Dilemma in Contrary Uses The challenge in evaluating the feedback to determine go forward recommendations is the needs of one group can preclude the needs of others. An example of this conundrum is the water depth desired for competitive swimming meets vs. the needs of instructional and recreational swimmers. The competitive depth of 1.36m (4:5ft) is far too deep for a facility hosting recreational swims and swim lessons where small children will not be able to touch the bottom in a pool designed for competitive swimming. One and three metre diving boards can be accommodated in each of the design options, however a 10 metre competitive diving tower requires a further deepening of the pool by 4 feet to accommodate this new activity. Increased .competitive uses in diving and swimming will reduce the availability of the pool for community and recreational uses while these events occur, thereby decreasing overall annual utilization potential.

Historic use patterns of the pool demonstrate that 54% of visits to Thames Pool are for recreational swimming, and 19% are swim lesson participants with the balance of the users being made up of competitive swimmer, divers and fitness swimmers and other users. Utilization is not anticipated to change if leisure elements are not added to the recreational user’s experience.

Feedback not previously considered During the consultation process three issues arose that were not considered in the designs shared at the meetings. All options for consideration had 6 lanes (same size as existing 8 narrow lane pool), (MB 2.2) Competitive users and fitness swimmers wish to retain an 8 lane

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pool and indicated a preference that that all lanes would meet the new wider lane standard. As a result a new 8 lane pool would need to be wider than the existing 8 lane pool. Any reduction in lanes would reduce the feasibility of hosting competitive events as would reducing the 50 metre length.

The Diving Club also expressed an interest in a diving tower complex that would support training and meets in an outdoor location, in addition to spring boards already proposed in designs presented. (MB 3.2).The diving club also expressed an interest in participating in further investigation of funding options assuming that provisions could be worked into the planning for this addition at a later date and recognized the potential to host provincial or national dive meets in an outdoor venue and the potential tourism benefits that may be generated. (Appendix K)

Also expressed during the consultation was the potential willingness of the community to fund raise for elements which may not be within the funding scope of the project although no lead group was identified.

In order to address the issue of competing interests that would drive different design decisions, it is necessary to settle on a “mission” for the new facility, in our view. Two possible mission statements emerge from the debate:

1. It is the mission of the new Thames Outdoor Pool to serve primarily as a sport and fitness facility with the capacity to support swim instruction and recreational swimming at times not devoted to the primary use.

2. It is the mission of the new Thames Outdoor Pool to serve a broad range of outdoor aquatic program needs, balancing recreationlinstruction, fitness and recreational diving needs with some capacity to host recreational level swim meets (sub-FINA standards).

We would submit that the second mission statement represents the historic positioning of the facility and should guide decision-making about the design of the new facility.

Evaluation of options for consideration The project architect, Shore Tilbe Irwin, was requested to provide design options and associated costs for evaluation by staff to determine programmability and estimated utilization and annual visitation. Relevant estimated capital and operating costs associated with each design option was also considered. (Appendix G & H)

Usage patterns were established to determine possible future facility use. (Appendix E) Detailed program options and diagrams are shown in Appendix D 1-4.

FAClLlN DESIGN OPTIONS As noted previously, the consultation included consideration of three design options -Options 1, 2 and 3 are in the chart below. As staff reviewed the public input and with consideration to the proposed Mission of the facility a fourth option emerged as Modified Option 4 below.

The chart below summarizes the design features of four options and provides our analysis of each option across four dimensions: impact on use, operating cost, perceived user attractiveness and capital cost.


Water jogliay river area

:ACILIW COMPONENTS

Water jognay river area

- ISTIMATED CHANGE IN JTlLlZATlON FROM PRESENT- \NNUAL vlslTs(Appendix E)

35 375 + 38.4 %

)PERATIONAL COSTS

JSER ATTRACTIVENESS

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37 990 + 48.6%

;APITAL CosTs(Appendix H'

3PT10N 1 - ~OMPETITIVE 'OOL (EXISTING)

50 m pool 6 wide lanes

8 narrow lanes 1 & 3m diving

board, separate well

4.5 ft. deep shallow end

Retains existing wading pool

23 277 J. 9.0%

No change .essons noderately 1

qecreational ;wimming jlightly 1 Swim meets slightly 1 -1tness No change

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OPTION 2 - COMPETITIVE POOLWITH AMENITIES

50 m pool 6 wide lanes

8 narrow lanes I& 3m diving boards,

main pool Water slide 4.5 ft. deep shallow end

Small spray pa features

27 876 + 9.0 %

Slight 1 Recreational swimming moderately Lessons moderately 1

Swim meets slightly Fitness No change

$2.9 million

LEISURE POOL 4 -FACILITY WTH

(ORIGINAL OPnoN PROPOSED)

6 wide lanes 8 wide lanes

I m board main pool

Water slide 4.0 ft. deep shallow end

Moderate spray pad features

Walk-in beach entry

Lily-pad walk

1 & 3m diving boards,

main pool Water slide 4.0 ft. deep shallow end

Moderate spray pad features

Walk-in beach entry

Moderate t Moderate T

moderately 1 swimming I considerablyt

Recreational 1 Lessons swimming I moderately t ~. considerably t School use 1 School use

competitive considerably t practices

$3.4 million $4 million

It is evident from this analysis that Options 3 and 4 best reflect the proposed Mission Statement for the new Thames Outdoor Pool as each strike a balance between leisure and fitness needs. The primary difference is the length of the main well and the capital and operating cost differential.

Option 3 represents the original design proposed by the civic administration, incorporating a 25 metre main well with a variety of interesting aquatic play components that will maximize usage of the facility and can be built for the current budget of $3.4M.

A Modified Option 4 modified is proposed for consideration and represents a blending of the competing arguments and includes a 50 metre 8 lane main tank and many of the leisure play amenities that would be desirable for maximizing use of the new facility; however, its capital cost is estimated to be $4M. Modified Option 4 also requires Upper Thames Conservation Authority approval to increase the footprint of the existing facility and removal of one of the existing ball diamonds in the park. Option 4 also does not include the additional cost to increase the depth of the deep end of the pool to accommodate a possible future diving tower feature.


The following provides additional details relative to the design of Modified Option 4.

Generic changes to the facility including accessibility, shade, and bath house upgrades consistent with all options.

50m, 8 wide lane pool suitable for holding non FlNA sanctioned events and also allows for a larger number of participants in the recreational swims while allowing competitive and fitness opportunities.

Shallow end water depth would be 1.2m (4 feet) as opposed to the desired 1.35 depth to accommodate Federation International de Natation Standards for international swim meets. Tot dock use during lessons will be required.

Diving boards of one and three meters in height allow for maximization of the swim lanes and participation in diving in the main tank.

Beach entry pool with shallow water areas for leisure and instruction activities.

Water slide to provide and the element deemed most desirable by students surveyed.

Water spray features in a spray pad format to compliment the leisure opportunities desirable to children, youth, and families.

Capital costs for key features for all options and the modified Option 4 have been provided in Appendix H for comparison purposes. The break out cost features have been provided for each design option including a modified Option 4 with features as noted above. The Modified Option 4 will yield the highest annual participant utilization/visitation of all options discussed. The Modified Option 4 will meet the broadest cross section of expressed users’ needs and will increase visitation/utilization. This option exceeds the proposed capital budget for this project by $600,000. The break out features on Appendix H and estimated corresponding costs are provided to assist in reducing the project capital cost should it be desired to stay within funding sources already identified, it being noted that the elimination of play/leisure elements will incrementally reduce annual visitation/utilization.

A further deepening of the deep end of the pool to accommodate a 3 metre platform and multi platform dive tower are not recommended on the basis of conflicting with the proposed mission and cost.

CONCLUSION: In summary, Option 3 and a Modified Option 4 align with the proposed mission. We continue to support Option 3, the original staff recommendation because it will meet the broad range of needs of users; its cost is within the current approved budget; no additional Thames Valley Conservation Authority approvals are needed; and there is no impact on the surrounding parkland. If desired, Option 3 could be amended to provide an 8 lane width in the main pool at an additional cost of $75,000.

We are also recommending Option 4 because it is consistent with the mission and provides the additional advantage of retaining the 50 metre main well. We are not, however, prepared to support the increased depth desired for competitive swimming because of its negative impact on the core swim instruction program. We are, also not supporting either the provision of a separate high performance diving well or increased depth in the deep end of the well to accommodate a 10 metre tower, due to cost and the impact of increased dive usage on core programming.

We would note Option 4 will require conservation authority approval to extend the pool footprint and it will result in the elimination of the ball diamond, which is surplus to the City’s sport needs. Finally, we note the matter of increased cost.


We are submitting both options for the consideration of Committee and are recommending that it hold a public participation meeting as part of its regular March 17" meeting to hear delegations from the public prior to making a final recommendation to City Council.

In conclusion, we would submit either Option 3 or Modified Option 4 would be desirable designs.

NAGER, COMMUNITY

Isg Prepared by: Lynn Loubert, Manager of Aquatics Date: February 1, 2008 File: .%\parks and recreation\cpsc\021108-thames-pool-revitilization-draft 8 final 0201 08.doc Attachments C Ross L. Fair, General Manager -Community Services

William C. Coxhead, Director, Parks and Recreation Lynn Loubert, Manager of Aquatics Ken Owen, Manager, Operations Monteith Brown Planning Consultants (MBPC) Shore Tilbe Irwin


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APPENDIX A

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APPENDIX C

APPENDIX D

APPENDIX D2

APPENDIX D3

APPENDIX D4

APPENDIX E

APPENDIX F

APPENDIX G

APPENDIX H

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APPENDIX J

APPENDIX K

APPENDICES INDEX

THAMES POOL REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT - PUBLIC CONSULTATION REPORT, JANUARY 2008 + APPENDIX Prepared by Monteith Brown Planning Consultants

CURRENT USE OF THE FACILITY

CURRENT USE BY PROGRAM

WHERE THAMES USERS COME FROM

DESIGN OPTION 1

DESIGN OPTION 2

DESIGN OPTION 3

DESIGN OPTION 4

PREDICTED UTILIZATION CHANGE BY OPTION AND CATEGORY

EXPECTED CHANGE IN UTILIZATION WITH JUSTIFICATION

EXPECTED CHANGE IN OPERATIONS COST WITH JUSTIFICATION

CAPITAL COSTS

SUPPORTING INFORMATION AND RESEARCH

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DEMOGRAPHICS

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City of London THAMES POOL REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT

PUBLIC CONSULTATION REPORT

JANUARY 2008

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1. introduction ; 1 1 . 1 Repod Purpose 1 1.2 Thames Pool Project - Brief Overview ...................................................................... 3 1.3 Public Consultation Process 3

4. 1.A Proposed Facility Design Options .............................................................................. 1 .5 Report Organization .................................................................................................. 9 1 .6 Limitations of the Report 9

2. Size of Lane Pool 10 2.1 Length of Pool ......................................................................................................... 1 0 2.2 Number of Lanes 14 2.3 Depth of Pool .......................................................................................................... 15 2.4 Ability to Host Competitive Events ........................................................................... 15

17 3. Diving Area ..................................................................................................................... 3.1 Separate Diving Well .............................................................................................. 17 3.2 Number and Type of Boards/Platforms 18

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4. Wading Pool / Spray Pad .............................................................................................

5. Leisure Pool 22 ..................................................................................................................... 22 Opposition to a Leisure Pool ................................................................................... 23 Support for a Leisure Pool .......................................................................................

6. Other Design Features .................................................................................................. 24 24 6.1 Water Slide .............................................................................................................. 24 6.2 Bathhouse ......................................................... I ..................................................... 25 6.3 Accessi bi I ity ........................................ ~ ....................................................................

6.4 Shade & Landscaping 25 6.5 Parking i 25

26 6.6 Energy Efficiency ..................................................................................................... 26 6.7 Other Design Elements ...........................................................................................

27 7. Addftional Considerations ............................................................................................ . . 27 7.1 Associations 8, Correlations .................................................................................... 27 7.2 Public Consultation Process ..................................................................................... 28 7.3 Attachment to the Existing Design ............................................................................

7.4 Role of the Pool in Meeting Community and/or City-wide Needs ................................................ 29 7.5 Role of the Pool in terms of Active Fitness and Play . . 30 7.6 Interest in Fundratstng .............................................................................................

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Appendix (under separate cover)

A Public Meeting Notes

B

C Diving Club Interview Notes

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E F G

Swim Clubs Focus Group Notes

Old South Community Organization (OSCO) Meeting Nates

South of Horton Community Organization (SOHO) Meeting Nates

Summary of Online Survey Results

Summary of Student Questionnaire Results

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A. Overview

Over 100 people attended meetings and nearly 560 online and student survey responses were received through the multi-faceted public consultation program undertaken in December 2007. The findings in this report are based on information put forward by the local residenk and organizations that were involved in the consultation process.

Participants expressed impassioned views regarding the redevelopment of Thames Pool, underscoring the importance of this recreational resource to the community. Although many different and sometimes conflicting opinions were offered, a number of consistent messoges were heard.

The large majority of those that participated in the consultation process simply want a design that offers the same opportunities that Thames Pool currently offers, with minor updates that will modernize the facility. The community values the unique design of Thames Pool and do not want the City's only outdoor 50-metre pool to be eliminated. Public opinion suggests that none of the three design options proposed by the City are ideal, although Option 1 is the closest to the design that was most often supported, with the exceDtion of the number of lanes.

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Based on input from the public meetina, online survey, and i n w t from community oraanizations and user arouDs, the following conclusions can be made:

The greatest amount of support was for an option that has been proposed by the City - an aquatic facility with a 50-metre 8-lane pool (this would essentially be a reconstruction of what currently exists, with allowances to make the lanes wider and to accommodate a ramp). There is a desire to maintain the 50-metre pool tank in order to provide opportunities to improve fitness levels of children and adults. Similarly, this design could also be used to support competitions at the provincial level. The potential economic spin-offs from such competitions and positive impact on growing the sport locally were frequently mentioned. Several organizations suggested a willingness to contribute to a fundraising campaign if it would result in a facility that met their needs.

Strong opposition to a 25-metre tank was voiced as this design would severely restrict usage by aquatic organizations, as would any 6-lane configuration. Most

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participants also opposed the leisure pool design of Option 3 as this would require the elimination of the 50-metre tank.

Considerable interest was expressed for the development of a separate diving well (or possibly an "L-shaped" pool with attached diving area). The public was mostly concerned about replacing what currently exists, while the Diving Club is interested in a competition-quality facility with a multitude of boards and platforms.

Complete support was voiced for the bathhouse upgrades and accessibility and shade im provemen ts.

More support was expressed for maintaining the existing wading pool as opposed to replacing it with a spray pad; however, the different pricing strategies for these two facilities may have influenced people's judgement (under the current proposals, the wading. pool would be free to use, while the usage of spray pad would require paid entry to the pool complex).

Nearly two-thirds of those participating in recreational swimming at Thames Pool are children and teens - an age group that had little significant representation at the meetings or online survey. In order to receive direct input from youth, a questionnaire was distributed to local schools and 170 responses were received. Based on input from the student questionnaire (children ages 9 and 13), the following conclusions can be made:

There is considerable support for a water slide, diving boards, and a lily pad walk (leisure pool feature).

In stark contrast to the messages heard through other consultation approaches, swimming lanes were the least desired facility component by students.

The following table provides a very brief summary of the type and degree of support for the various design features presented as part of the three proposed configurations. This list i s not intended to be exhaustive and some features are mutually exclusive, while others may be best provided in combination with others.

The table is based solely on information presented through the consultation program. The "rank" is based on our assessment of all public input, whereby relatively equal weight was placed on each participatory forum (e.g., public meeting, online survey, student questionnaire, user group input, and community organization meetings).

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50-mefre, 8-lane pool (similar io existing.design, bui with wider lanes and deeper water)

Accessibility, change room, and shade improvements

Diving well with 1 -metre and 3- metre diving boards (similar to existing design)

50-metre, 6-lane pool

Retain Wading Pool (outside complex- free to use)

1 -metre and 3-metre diving boards as part of main swimmin DO01

Full diving platform (5, 7.5, and 10-meire levels)

Leisure Pool (beach entry, lily pad walk, etc.)

Water slide

Spray Pad (inside complex - cost for use)

' The largest number of menlions from the public meeting, online survey, and swim club meeting wos for a 50-metre 8-lane pool. Length swimmers and competitive swimmers are particularly drown to this deign.

. Feature cannot be combined with #'s 4 or 11.

. Unanimously supported, but lower pr'orities.

. All consultation events (including the student quest'onnairej provided considerable support for the provision of 1 and 3-metre sprhgboards. There wos a preference for diving to be contained in a separate tank, os opposed to within the main swimming pool.

. Feature cannot be combined with #6.

. 50-metre length wos slightly more important than number of lanes, but 6-lane design was thought to restrid competitions and reduce pool capac'ly.

I Feature cannot be combined with #'s 1 or 11. . This option garnered more support than

replacing fhe wading pool with a sproy pad; however, free access to the wading pool may have been a deciding factor.

~ Feature cannot be combined wits #lo. See #3. Feature cannot be combined with #3.

- This feature - which was proposed by the diving club -received some support at the public meeting and online survey, but was not included in any of the design options and not'tested as thoroughly.

- Received some support from the student questionnaire ond more limited interest in other public forums. Inability of this design to accommodate a 50-metre pool may have offected the public's assessment of this feature.

- Received very little support from "adult-oriented" consultation, but was the highest ranked feature on the student auestionnaire.

- Primary concerns were the cost for entry and proximity to the Forks of the Thames spray pad.

- Feature cannot be combined with #5.

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25-metre, 6-lane pool - On its own, this is the least supported of oll 3 design features as it would nof be a unique facility in the Cily. When combined with a leisure pool element (#8], slightly greater support can be expected.

- Feature cannot be combined with #'sl or 4.

1 . l Report Purpose

The City of London has identified the need to redevelop the outdoor aquatic facilities in Thames Park. Monteith Brown Planning Consultants have been retained to assist the City in facilitating a multi-faceted consultation program. The public input process is aimed at gaining a deeper understanding of the expectations and requirements of the general public and key stakeholders regarding the future layout and operation of the redeveloped Thames Pool.

This report contains a summary of the input received through the various consultation methods and provides high-level conclusions based on the information put forward by local residents and organizations. This report does make any recommendations regarding the design of the Thames Pool; rather it is intended to serve as a resource for City staff and officials in making an informed decision regording the redevelopment of Thames Pool

1.2 Thames Pool Project - Brief Overview

Thames Park is located at 95 Ridout Street at the south end of the City's core area. The park contains the City's only outdoor 50-metre pool, as well as separate diving well, large bathhouse, and a free-of-charge wading pool. Having been built in 1927, Thames Pool i s a long-stonding recreational landmark in the community.

According to data provided by the City, Thames Pool has continually ranked in the top 25% in terms of overall outdoor pool usage i.n the City and attracts nearly 25,000 swims per year. The pool is a popular destination for recreational swimmers (representing 55% of the pool's total usage), swimming lessons. (19%), the London Aquatic Club (lo%), and lane/fitness swimmers (8%). The pool is also used to host the annual Hauch Invitational Swim meet. Thames Pool serves not only users from the surrounding area, but also a considerable number from across the broader City.

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Redevelopment of the Thames P.001 has been a high priority for the City for some time. Due to the deteriorating state of the facility - particularly the main pool tank and diving well - minor restoration work is no longer feasible. For the pool to continue to serve the aquatic needs of the community over the long-term, wholesale demolition and construction of the aquatic facilities is necessary (excluding the bathhouse and wading pool). This redevelopment project has provided the City with an oppodunity to reconsider the facility's design and operations.

In March 2007, the Ontario Ministry of Health Promotion annbunced a grant to assist the City of London in upgrading the Thames Pool ($1.8 million), as well as the North London Optimist Community Centre. With an additional $1.6 million allocated from the City's capital budget, the City has up to $3.4 million available to undertake Thames Pool upgrades (including both design and construction). The grant has allowed the City to advance this project, which was budgeted to occur in 201 0.

The understanding at that time was that the Provincial grant was restricted to capital works undertaken in 2007. To take advantage of this funding and needing to achieve a construction start date of Fall 2007, the City was not able to involve the public and organizations as fully in the design process as they would under normal circumstances.

The initial facility design developed by the City - which included a 25-meire lane pool, leisure pool, spray pad, and tower slide -was a significant departure from the existing layout of the Thames Pool. In July and August 2007, the City displayed the proposed design at the 'Gathering on the Green' in Old South and held discussions with a small number of community organizations. A public meeting was organized by residents and the Old South Community Organization in August, at which considerable concerns were expressed over the proposed design. Although the public criticism largely revolved around the replacement of the 50-metre pool with a 25-metre pool, it was apparent that there were also concerns with other design features and how the design decision was being handled.

Not long afterward, the Provincial government clarified that the $1.8 million grant was - not "time-sensitive", thereby giving the City more time to decide on an ultimate design, albeit not in time to begin construction in 2007.

As a result, at its meeting on September 27, 2007, City Council recommended that the '%ne 7 7, 2007 Municipal Council decision regarding the replacemenf of fhe Thames Outdoor Pool be reconsidered'! Further, it was recommended at this time that that "fhe matter o f the Thames Outdoor Pool Replacement be referred back fo the Civ2 Adminisfrafion to undertake broader public input on fhis rnaffer pnbr to proceeding furfher with this Project.''

This report is in response to the decision to undertake a broader consultation program with respect to the Thames Pool project.

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1.3 Public Consultation Process

The communify consultation undertaken for this report consisted of several facilitated meetings, as established in a report approved by City Council on November 5, 2007. These sessions were aimed at identifying public preferences and requirements for programmatic and faciliiy components of the new pool facility. The consultation was structured to engage a range of current and potential new users from across the City, recognizing the city-wide nature of the facility and the neighbourhoods it also serves.

The following table illustrates the target groups that were consulted and how their input was sought. Detailed accounts of each consultation event can be found in the Appendix of this report.

Tarqet Group Methodology

About the Special Interest Users

The following descriptions are based on information provided by said organizations:

The London Aquatic Club indicated that they use the Thames Pool for 60 practices a year between the beginning of June and mid-July; every 4 years the Club has qualifiers and they make use of Thames Pool up to mid-August. The group and its 120 members also host the 3-day Hauch Invitational swim meet, which is the only sanctioned outdoor swim meet in Southwestern Ontario (and possibly all of Ontario).

The Club uses Thames Pool first and foremost because of its 50-metre design; a secondory reason is that the pool is outside, which is a welcome break/change for many swimmers.

The London Silver Dolohins (Masters Swimmers) have over 100 members. Most of which are "fitness swimmers" as opposed to competitive swimmers or triathletes. The Silver Dolphins do not have a formal program in July and August, but many of their members utilize Thames Pool during the summer.

The Forest Citv Divinq Club offers introdudory and competitive diving to people ages 6 and up (including adults). The Club has approximately 20 competitive divers, as well as hundreds in "learn to dive" programs and summer camps. Historically, the Club is not a primary user of Thames Pool, but did utilize the facility 15 times in 2007 (according to City records) in preparation for an outdoor competition in Montreal.

About the Communify Organizations

The following descriptions are based on information provided by said organizations:

(Old South Community Organization) is a non-elected, volunteer voice for'the Old South community that has been in existence for over 25 years. They have taken an active role in planning and development issues in the past and assist with funding community events and organizations. Given their role, they feel that they are "well plugged into the issues of the community". They describe Old South as being a self- sustaining, diverse area that contains a wide mix of people and incomes. Thames Park is within OSCO's community boundaries.

(South of Horton Organization) is a newly formed volunteer voice for the area located south of the tracks (at Horton Street), the Thames River to the west and south, and Adelaide Street to the east. The group formed in response to crime issues in the neighbourhood and are currently building upon the artistic talents in the area to help to build a sense of community and bring people together. Thames Park is adjacent to SOHO's community boundaries.

1.4 Proposed Facilify Design Options

As defined by the City, three designs options were presented for the basis of public discussion (in no particular order):

Option 1 : 50-metre pool, diving well, wading pool

Option 2: 50-metre pool, spray pad, slide

Option 3: 25-metre pool, leisure pool, spray pad, slide

These are described briefly below. It is understood that the ultimate pool design does not necessarily have to confirm precisely to any one of the three options. City of London Page 4 Thames Pool Redevelopment Project -Public Consultation Report Jonuaty 2008

Option 1 : 50-metre ~ o o l . divinn well, wadina DOOI

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Rebuild the 50-m pool (reduce to 6 lanes, including a ramp) Rebuild the diving well (3 boards) No chunges to existing wading pool No ploy features, no tower slide

50-metre pool Primary age group: 6 years+ Lane swimming

* Recreational swimming 0 Swimming lessons (tot dock required for younger children)

Common depth of 1.36 metres (4.5 feet) Swim competition

Separate diving well Primary age group: 8 fo 76 years Diving instruction

* Recreational ploy

Wading pool Primary age group: 0 to d yeurs * Life guarded - Shorter hours than pool

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Qtion 2: 50-metre aool, s a r w aad. slide

Rebuild the 50-m pool (reduce to 6 lanes, including a ramp) Remove the diving well - add 1 m and 3m diving boards to 50-m pool Replace wading pool with spray pad One tower slide (if able to be accommodated within budget)

50-metre pool with 1 m & 3m diving boards ond deep area of one end

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Primaty age group: 6y&7rs+ * Lane swimming

Recreational swimming Swimming lessons (tot dock still required)

* Swim competition * Diving * Depth from 1.36m (4.5ft) to 3.4117 (1 lft]

Spray Pad (smaller than Option 3)

Primmy age group: 0 to 7 1 pars Self-activated, flexible hours

* No standing water, no life guard

* Unique "aquodeck" feature Within pool compound -cost for entry

Tower Slide Primary age group: 8 fo 76 years Exit into decelarotion chute Fun element, not instructional

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ODtion 3: 25-metre uool, leisure UOOI, spray uad, slide

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Build 25-m pool (6 lanes) Attached to the 25-m pool, build a free-form leisure area containing beach entry, lily pad walk, aqua shower, jets Remove the diving well - a d d 1 board to 25-m pool Replace wading pool with spray pad One tower slide with the option for second slide in the future

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25-metre pool with 1 m diving board

Leisure Pool

Spray Pad (larger than Option 2)

Tower Slide with option for Znd slide in future

Primary age gmup: 6 years+

Recreational swimming Lane swimming (but shorter lanes)

Swimming lessons.(older children) * Swim competition (more limited] * Diving (more limited)

Depth from 1.36m (4.5ft) to 2.7m (9ft)

Primary age group: Zyears $.

* Swimming lessons (younger children) Beach entry Lily pad walk (fun, promotes balance)

* Lazy river i area to 'water iog' against current

Primary age group: 0 io 17 years Self-activated, flexible hours No standing water, no life guard Within pool compound - cost for entry

Primary age group: 8 to 16 years * Exit into deceleration chute * Fun element, not instructional

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Elements Common to all ODtions

Features common to all three proposed options include:

a) Bathhouse upgrades: o

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o o o

o o Energy efficient lighting upgrades

Installation of one change cubicle in each male and female change room for patrons with speciol needs or small children Improvements to the identification of the entrance and new universally accessible doan (elimination of ramps accessing fhe pool deck) New customer reception and control counter Aquatic office upgrades, including improved visibility to pool deck New floor finish, improved venting, and installation of cauntertops with hair dryer outleis in change rooms Barrier free upgrades to washrooms

b) 6 lanes of swimming in each rectangular tank

c) Wider swimming lones (2.13m, 7ft) d) Heated pool

e) Shade Structures

f)

g) Landscaping

h) Programming -Al l programs currently offered by the City can be accommodated in each proposed design

Accessibility Improvements (universally accessible doors, barrier free washrooms, pool ramp, etc.)

Based on information received from the City and through the consultation process, the fol lowing chart contains a summaw of the wonrammat ic components accommodated by each of the three options.

Lane swimming (6-lanes) I Swim lessons I e l 0 l e I

e I e I e Recreational swimming

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1.5 Report Organization

This report has been divided into sections based on programmatic facility component. Although the section topics are relatively distinct, all sections should be read together to gain a complete understanding of the community’s expectations for this redevelopment project.

Section 2

Section 3

Section 4

Section 5

Section 6

Section 7

Size of Lane Pool dimensions (e.g., length, number of lanes, depth), range of uses and perceived benefits, etc.

separation from swimming area, number and type of boards and platforms, etc.

range of uses and perceived benefits, access to facilities and cost of use, etc.

Diving Area

Wading Pool /Spray Pad

Leisure Pool range of uses and perceived benefits, various design elements, etc.

Other Design Features

efficiency, etc.

other topics unrelated to specific design features

bathhouse, slide, shade, accessibility, parking, energy

Additional Considerations

The Appendix contains detailed accounts of each communiv consultation event, including the surveys.

1.6 Limitations of the Report

Sections 2 to 7 of this report are compi.-3d entirely of the opinions provided by the local community and stakeholders. Confirming the accuracy of these statements is outside the scope of this project. The public input process consisted of several meetings and consultation approaches, yielding substantial information. The consultant’s professional judgement was relied upon when synthesizing, summarizing, and reporting this input.


2.1 Length of Pool

50-metre Pool

The strongest opinion expressed by the public throughout the entire consultation program was the need to maintain a 50-metre pool in the proposed design (Options 1 and 2). Conversely, the inclusion of swimming lanes in the pool redesign was the least favoured of the six features suggested on the survey of 170 grade 4 and 8 students.

- Nofe: 54% of survey respondents indcated that they utjlize Thames Pool for lane swimming (among other acfivities). Furfhermore, the large majoriv of comments received at the public meeting were in favour of length swt'mming and competitive spon's. When compared against usage data indcaing that on& 8% of Thames Pool visits are for lane swimming and 16% are for team sports, this suggests fhai much of the public input was skewed towards people with lane swimming and compe fitive in ferests.

Although most agreed on the need for a 50-metre pool, the reasoning behind this opinion was somewhat varied. Each of the following points was raised through nearly every consultation event and methodology (with the exception of the student survey):

i) The existing configuration includes a 50-metre tank and this has been more than adequate to meet needs over the past 80 years. The online survey revealed that 79% of respondents are Satisfied or very satisfied with the existing Thames Pool.

ii) A 50-metre length is most appropriate for fitness swimmers as it provides for greater endurance training, allows swimmers to maintain their tempo longer, and reduces congestion. The size of the pool also accommodates a larger number of swimmers.

iii) A 50-metre length is most appropriate for competitive swimmers and is a requirement toward building a successful competitive program. Such a pool could accommodate the Hauch Invitational Swim Meet as well as sanctioned provincial meets (if other necessary design specifications were met).

iv) A larger tank could offer more flexibilitv in terms of both capaci?. (accommodating more swimmers) and range of use (allowing multiple activities to take place at once; e.g., lane swimming and swim lessons).

v) The 50-metre length is seen as a positive challenge and confidence-builder for children, many of whom feel a sense of pride when they first swim the entire distance.

vi) Due to its length, Thames Pool is a unique facility in the region and even Canada (it was stated that there are only two to three other 50-metre outdoor pools in the country).

vii) There is a lack of 50-metre facilities in the City as it is (it was stated that the indoor Canada Games Aquatic Centre is overcrowded), and reducing the size of Thames Pool would only exacerbate this issue.

82% of online survey respondents indicated that 50-metre swim lanes are important or very important to their households, making this by far the highest ranked facilify feature. Furthermore, 30% of all surveys included open-ended comments citing the need for a 50-metre pool at this location.

Sample Quotes in Support of 50-metre Pool:

"A 50m pool is desired by both recreational and competitive swimmers." - public meeting

"Kids of all swim levels can use the 50 metre pool but no competitive swimmers can develop in summer leagues or thru LAC if you eliminate the 50 m pool." - online survey

"A 50 metre outdoor pool is a necessity in London in order to give all swimmers the opportuniiy to learn, train and race at a top class outdoor facility. If there were a reduction in the size of the pool you will see a steady decline in the amount of children not just learning to swim but swimming at a competent level." - online survey

"Changing a 50m pool into a 25m pool would be a big step backwards and would be one associated with many regrets and repercussions not only within the swim community but in regards to London's tourism and economy."- online survey

"Thames Pool is the only outdoor, 50-metre pool for miles, and the city should take pride in its uniqueness and historical value." -online survey

"With Canada trying to boost its Olympic image, a 50m pool would be the better investment; with a 50m pool, we might see a renaissance in swimming." -swim clubs

"London does not have enough pool time (indoor or outdoor) as it is - if another pool is lost, this would be 'criminal'." - swim clubs

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Few people spoke in opposition to a 50-metre pool. Those that did promoted other features (e.g., beach entry area) that would not be viable in a 50-metre design (see Section 5) or expressed concern that the consultation process would be dominated by a small but vocal minority of lane swimmers.

Sample Quotes in Opposition to a 50-metre Pool: 1 "Preserving the 50 meter lanes seems unnecessary, since it means that those swimmers wishing to do 50 meters will simply have to do an extra flip turn. Surely London does not have any small groups of 50 meter lane swimmers who deem themselves so important that they compromise the use of the pool for the large proportion of the population." - online survey

"It seems to me that the only real change they would have to deal with is that they would have to make more turns on their swimming laps. That is a minor adjustment, unless they don't want a lot of people to use ?he pool while doing their laps. All this controversy for some who do not want to do 25 metre laps?" - online survey

25-metre Pool

With regard to the 25-metre pool design (Option 3), it is difficult to fully assess this configuration without examining the comments relating to the leisure pool [see Section 5) to which the 25-metre tank is attached. Nevertheless, several consistent messages regarding the 25-metre design emerged:

I i) A 25-metre tank would significantly comwomise usaqe by the fitness, competitive,

and triathlete swimming communities. User groups indicated that they would be "disenfranchised" by such a facility configuration and it was stated that lane swimmers would go elsewhere as they would no longer have a reason to utilize the Thames Pool. I f a 25-metre tank was pursued, the London Aquatic Club - which indicated that it cannot accommodate current demand as it is -would have to significantly reduce its number of long-course practices.

ii) Many felt that a 25-metre pool would simply not be larqe enouah to accommodate the pool's regular users and that it could not offer more than one activity at once (e.g., lane swimming and recreational swimming).

iii) User groups indicated that it would not be possible to host a sanctioned meet in a 25-metre pool, They felt that the annual Hauch Invitational Swim Meet could also be jeopardized by a 25-metre design, although if the desired technical requirements were met, they opined that the Meet would have a 50% chance of 'continuing (albeit with a smaller number of teams/participants). Nevertheless, the clubs would still prefer that their technical requirements be met in a 25rn design because, without these, the Meet would undoubtedly be eliminated.

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iv) Several people suggested that there are many other opportunities in the City for 25-metre swimming and that these pools are under-utilized.

Sample Quotes in Opposition of a 25-metre Pool:

"The 25m pool does not leave enough space for lane swimmers during the lunch hour. Often with four 50m lanes available we are crammed into the pool." - online survey

"Changing a 50m pool into a 25m pool would be a big step backwards and would be one associated with many regrets and repercussions not only within the swim communify but in regards to London's tourism and economy." - online survey

"If the pool were to be chopped down to 25m I would have no reason to attend the facility." -online survey

"Option 3 (due to the 25-metre pool) ... would entirely disenfranchise the swim clubs." - swim clubs

Few people spoke in support of a 25-metre pool; those that did promoted other features (e.g., beach entry area) that would only be available in the 25-metre design (see Section 5). For the online survey, 39% of respondents described 25-metre swimming lanes as being important or very important to their households (compared to 82% for 50-metre lanes).

Sample Quotes in Support of a 25-metre Pool:

"Thomes pool needs to be upgraded ... to accommodate a wide variety of activities, including leisure swimming and family programs, as well as various athletic/competitive oriented programs. Lane swimming is important to the latter, so 25 metre lanes should be included in the re-design." - online survey

"It is vital that the new pool has amenities for a wide range of people. My husband and I would both swim lengths in a 25 metre pool but we also want accessible features available for our toddlers. We hope that the survey and public meetings are well represented by families and not just high performance athletes. Just because a group is vocal and receives a lot of press does not mean they represent the citizens of London. " - online survey

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2.2 Number of Lanes

Each of the three designs proposed by the Ciiy includes 6 lanes of swimming (at a width of 2.1 33 metres each). The proposed lane width is larger than the existing configuration, but consistent with modern standards; this is also the lane width supported by the London Aquatic Club. There were no significant comments in opposition of the proposed lane width.

Despite all models proposing a 6-lane configuration, there was considerable support in expanding this to 8-lanes to accommodate a wider range of uses and a larger number of bathers. The number of lanes was raised as a sianificant issue in each of the consultation events (only in relation to the 50-metre pool; an 8-lane 25-metre pool was not felt to offer any real benefit). Several individuals mentioned the possibility of community fundraisinq to help cover the differential cost between a 6 and 8-lane facility.

For example, the aquatic organizations indicated that a 6-lane 50-metre tank is an "abnormal design". They suggested that an 8-lane 50m pool would allow the City to schedule more comDetitions and bid on events such as the long-course provincial series. The Masters Swimming group might also consider doing a long-course meet and cited the positive economic spin-off that such an event would have on the City.

Furthermore, comments from the public meeting and online survey suggest that the community feels it i s "losina somethinq" by moving from 8-lanes [which is the current configuration) to 6-lanes, despite the fact that each individual lane is to be wider. Very few people spoke in support of a 6-lane pool.

The number of lanes was tested on the online survey as this was not an option proposed by any of the City's three designs. Despite this, 9% of all surveys included an open-ended comment in support of increasing the pool size to accommodate 8 lanes.

Sample Quotes in Suooort of an 8-lane Pool:

"I have never seen a competitive pool that has only 6 lanes." - public meeting

"It only makes sense to replace the existing 8 lane 50m pool with the same." - online survey

"If this is to be a true multi-use facility then the redevelopment plan should include an eight lane 50 metre pool that can be used for competitions when not being used for the usual other multi-use functions." - online survey

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2.3 Depth of Pool

In speaking with the aquatic organizations, it was noted that the depth of the pool "needs to be ut leust one foot &pet", both for competitions and many fitness swimmers. Therefore, in order for the pool to be used for competitive sanctioned events (of which the Hauch Meet is one), the pool needs to be a minimum depth of 1.36 metres (4.5 feet). The existing pool - which has a depth of 0.8 metres at the ends and 1.4 metres in the middle - circumvents this requirement for the Hauch Meet due to its age; however, any pool reconstruction would negate this grandfather clause.

There was concern expressed by a small number of participants that the proposed pool depth would be too deep to accommodate younger children who are no longer interested in the wading pool, but do not yet have the skills to swim in a deeper tank. The student questionnaire undertaken for this report suggests that older children (e.g., ages 9 to 13) would like a pool of sufficient depth to accommodate jumping and diving.

Option 1, which has a separate diving tank, is also proposed to have a consiitent depth across the entire pool (1.36 metres). Several people commented that n v- similar to what is in the existing pool tank, would be preferred so as to help teach deeper water swimming skills.

Samde Quotes Reqardinn the Depth of the Main Tank:

"Whatever happens, the ultimate design needs to be able to accommodate swim lessons, although maybe younger children could be encouraged to use other facilities (if the depth of Thames Pool i s not conducive to their lessons)." - swim clubs

"Concerned about the proposed depth of the pool (4%); would prefer something shallower like what is there today in order to facilitate usage by younger children." -

2.4

The matter of hosting aquatic competitions and the resultant economic spin-offs to the greater City were raised on a number of occasions. The aquatic organizations felt that the City should consider the potential economic impact of a competitive pool and diving tank in its decision-making process.

In order to be eligible to host a sanctioned event other than an invitational, the aquatic clubs indicated that a 50-metre. 8-lane pool is a mandatorv reauiremenl. Furthermore, as discussed in the next section, the Diving Club indicates that the development of a tower platform and springboards are critical in their ability to accommodate a broad range of diving competitions.

Ability to Host Competitive Events

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The London Aquatic Club and City confirmed that the various technical elements required for hosting competitions -with the potential exception of the pool length - could be met in each of the three proposed designs.

Overall, considerable support was expressed for designing the Thames Pool to be able to host regional and provincial competitions. Some concern was raised for how these meets would affect access by the local community (i.e., more competitions could restrict access to recreational users during what is an already short summer pool season) or the impact it would have on parking, however, these perspectives were a minoriiy.

Sample Quotes Regarding the ComDetitive Events:

"1 think London has a unique opportunity that many other municipalities do not have. If we were to improve the existing 50m pool and diving well we could host meets for Ontario and even Canada. Swimmers love outdoor pools for meets. The problem is, there aren't very many around to enjoy." -online survey

"Why not upgrade it so that it could host provincial and national level meets? Think of the income that could be gained by city businesses, such as hotels and restaurants." - online survey

"Concerned that the new competitive events that could result from Options 1 and 2 would reduce community access to the pool." - OSCO

"Facility improvements must take sport development programs into consideration. I don'i want to see a training facility resource disappear when there is a shortage of facilities across the nation." - online survey


Each proposed design option offered a different configuration to support diving, ranging from a separate diving well (Option 1) to a single diving board as. part of the main swimming tank (Option 3).

A consistent message was received that - at the very least - the new Thames Pool needs to accommodate recreational diving in some manner. As it stands, the Thames diving well is described by the Diving Club as the best outdoor diving facility in the City and the community i s interested in maintaining (and possibly enhancing) this level of service.

3.1 Separate Diving Well

In terms of the location of the diving boards, the most support was displayed for the separate divinn well or possibly an L-shaped pool with a diving well attached to the side (this latter option was raised by the Diving Club and not discussed in any other consultation forums). Several reasons were given for this, including:

i) A separate diving well provides greater opportunities for:

a. competitive use, such as training and events (this was the primary rationale provided by the Forest City Diving Club);

b. recreational diving / jumping as the diving well can remain in use regardless of what activities the main tank i s being used for; and

c. creating opportunities to expose the sport of diving to a wider audience through greater visibility.

ii) Without a separate diving well, divers would have to share the main tank with other users, which was felt to be both inefficient and potentially dangerous. Many lap swimmers were concerned that the number of open swim lanes would be restricted in order to allow for diving to take place simultaneously.

iii) A separate diving well is more likely to be able to accommodate greater number of boards, which appeals to many recreational and competitive users.

iv) Diving boards, especially the higher ones, appeal to teenage boys, who can otherwise be a challenging group to engage in meaningful activities. The student questionnoire found considerable support for diving boards from this age group.

v) A separate diving well would mirror what is currently provided in Thames Park.


Quotes in Suaport of a Diving Well:

"Prefer the diving tank to be separate from the swimming tank because this allows both activities to be undertaken simultaneously." - swim clubs

"The diving well is unique, and although I don't use it, it provides a good introduction to diving that children may not be exposed to otherwise." - online survey

"There is a need for both the 1 metre and 3 metre diving boards to meet the needs of younger and older kids (it is draw for boy ages 8 to 15)." - SOH0

3.2

Representatives of the Forest City Diving Club identified a minimum reauirement of two I-metre and b o 3-metre springboards, as well as the potential to add to this in the future. This is deemed by the Club as being sufficient to meet local needs. None of the proposed facility designs accommodate this configuration; although Option 1 comes the closest (one more 3-metre board would be required).

The Club's suggestion is generally consistent with comments received through the other consultation initiatives, which emphasized replacement of the existing levels of service. 39% and 37% of online survey respondents indicated that I-metre and 3-metre diving boards would be important or very important to their household, respectively (ranking well ahead of new features such as water slides, beach entry, sprayers, etc.). Diving boards were also a priority request heard through the survey of elementary school students.

N u m b e r and Type of Boards/PlatForms

In addition to meeting local needs, the Diving Club has expressed very considerable interest in designing the Thames Pool to accommodate Provincial, National and International competitive events. For this to happen, the pool needs to be designated a "Class A" outdoor facility and be designed to meet the following FlNA requirements:

Two 1 -metre springboards; Two 3-metre springboards; One 3-metre platform (which could be combined on the same stand as the iwo 3- metre springboards]; One Tower comdex including 5-metre, 7.5-metre and 1 0-metre diving platforms; and One "bubbler system" below towers, sprayers under springboards, and warm showers under the tower.

Although the Club indicated that it would prefer a separate diving tank or possibly an "L- shaped" pool combination in order to reduce conflicts with other activities, it is also amenable to including the diving features within the main 50-metre tank.

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The Club presented preliminary construction costs figures for its various options and is open to the facility being enhanced or added onto in the future (if such features could not be accommodated at present). They, along with "Diving Plongeon Canada", indicated a willingness to assist in seeking possible funding sources.

The following quotes best summarize the position of the Forest City Diving Club:

"Given the trend at the nafibnal level towards having Jr. & Sr. National Championships outdoors [to better prepare for international compefifions), it is even more important than ever that we do not lose the best oufdoor diving faciiv that we have in this Ciw and the only one that is even close fo suitable for our purposes. "

/'If built in London, Ontaio in accordance with FINA standards, an outdoor diving complex would be the onk one in Ontario and it would be one of only two outdoor facibfies in all of Canada which would be suitable for hosting nafional and international outdoor competitions. "

"Diving Plongeon Canada has assured us that they would supporf a bid by our local club to host a number of national and infernafional events such as the Jr. National Championships, the Summer Sr. National Championships, the World Jr. Championships, the Jr. Pan Am Games and some proposed new international events such as a Canada-Mexico Challenge."

"It is anticipated that with a proper outdoor diving facii& we could reasonably expect to host a hbh level event every year and a major national or infernational competition at least every 2nd year - bringing in competitors andnew tourism doflars to London from across Canada, the United States and internationalh A proper outdoor facility would be an ideal venue far a National Training Centre.

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Each of the three design options offers either a wading pool or spray pad for younger children (but not both).

Greater support was found for maintainina the existina wadinn pool versus replacing it with a spray pad. Although part of the reasoning for this was likely a familiarity with the existing facilities, a significant factor was that the wading pool would remain free to use, while to use the spray pad -which is proposed within the pool enclosure - an admission charge would apply for access to the entire aquatic complex. This point became particularly clear at the meeting with OXO, who raised concerns over the financial burden that the loss of a free service would place on the cornrnunify.

Although the polarization of financial access between the wading pool and spray pad may have been a significant factor for the public, other reasons were frequently put forward in sup~or t of a wadins pool, including:

There is a free sprav pad available at the Fork of the Tharnes, which is less than 1 - ltilometre away and connected to Thames Park by the City‘s multi-use trail system. A considerable number of people indicated that they would be more willing to use the free spray pad that is so close by than pay to use one at Thames Park.

ii) Wading pools allow young children to become comfortable in the water and develop pre-swimminn skills in a way that spray pads cannot.

iii) Safetv concerns regarding spray pads were also raised as some contend that they are inherently more dangerous because of children running around.

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Furthermore, 11% of all online survey respondents offered non-prompted opinion that a spray pad is not required at Thames Park given the supply and accessibility of other spray pads in the City. 74% of survey respondents indicated that interactive play features (such as sprays, lily pad, etc.) for children are not important to their household.

“Running through sprinklers or spray pads” and “wet play area with sprayers and climbers” were identified as low priorities by local children on the student questionnaire. In fairness, the target age group for both wading pools and spray pads is generally younger than those who completed the surveys (ages 9 and 13).

Although a minority viewpoint, there were those that saw merit in bringing either a wading pool or spray pad within the pool compound for two reasons: (1) the safety of the children and equipment; and (2) greater ease of use for families with children of different ages that want to use both the pool and the spray pad or wading pool features.

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The SOH0 group proposed an alternative that would see the wading pool features maintained, but brought within the fenced area -the group suggested building a wading pool with gradual/beach entry attached to one end of the 50-metre pool, separated by a bulkhead.

Quotes in sumort of Maintaininn the Wadina Pool:

"The downtown area does not need another splash pad when one is already established at the 'Fork of the Thames' free of charge." - online survey

"A wading pool is important for young children to become comfortable in the water." - online survey

"[Wading] pools promote parents getting into the water and playing with their children, rather than just watching from afar." - online survey

"Please do not create a pay access splash pad." - online survey

"The Thames wading pool is a lifeline for children." - public meeting

"There is a need for simpler play structures. Spray pads routinely break down. Children can still have fun on less equipment." - public meeting

"We have difficulties in the pool with multiple children. Don't want the wading pool or spray pad to be separate from the big pool, but we don't want to pay for its use ... what about o reduced admission price for kids under 6 or parents accompanying children?" - public meeting

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In general, there were low levels of support for the leisure pool concept (which consists- of the beach entry area, lily pad walk, relaxation area, and jets).

5.1

If there was one prevailing opinion on the leisure pool, it was that it was perceived as a "theme park" desiqn that cannot offer any real benefit to physical activity levels. Other stated reasons against the leisure pool included:

i) The opinion that, in comparison to a large rectangular pool tank with deeper water, the leisure pool would limit children's creativity and fitness levels.

ii) Option 3 and the leisure pool was a design that was trying to be "everything to everyone", which runs the risk of satisfvinq few.

iii) Similar facilities already exist in the City (Stronach outdoor pool and the South London Community Pool) and there is insufficient need for additional leisure

iv) Concerns were expressed regarding the sclfetv of the design. The beach entry was noted as being a potential safety hazard as it would allow children to wander into deeper water where they could be at risk. Some also felt that the leisure pool design at Stronach attracted too many children and was unsafe.

v) The aquatic organizations suggested that, while the leisure pool and Option 3 have some excellent features for children, it is not an appropriate response to an aqinq Dopulation.

Opposition to a Leisure Pool

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A beach entry area, which is generally synonymous with the leisure pool design proposed in Option 3, received little support through the online survey - 77% described it as being an unimportant feature for their household.

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Quotes in Opposition to a Leisure Pool:

"My family has used it for 3 generations as such and we have managed just fine without the spray pad features, walk in beach, and fancy water slides. Sometimes less is more." - online survey

"Not all families want to limit their children's creativity, level of fitness or their own parental duties by providing preset activities for kids." - online survey

"There is a similar pool built at Stronach ... it's a good pool to have in Ciiy, but don't necessarily need more than one." - public meeting

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Quotes in Opposition to a Leisure Fool: (confinueol,

"Not every pool needs to be everything to everyone." - swim clubs

"Large contraptions like anchored, floating lily-pads ... makes for very dangerous, chaotic, and difficult to guard swimming." - SOH0

"With a wading pool, you don't have to worry about kids wandering into the deep end (as would be the case with a beach entry pool)." - swim clubs

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Although the leisure pool design had more detractors than supporters, those that did endorse this feature suggested that it:

would be very appealinq to families with small children (also noting that most of the pools' users are recreational swimmers, not competitive swimmers or divers);

would ottract more users to the pool;

would be useful because of the accessibility features of the beach entry area; and

represents on appropriate compromise (in combination with the 25-metre lane pool) because it has "something for everyone".

Support for a Leisure Pool

The student questionnaire also suggests that youth are interested in the 'lily pad walk' feature proposed in Option 3, ranking it behind only a water slide and diving board as a preferred component in the new pool. It is possible that this interest can be partially attributed to the uniqueness of this feature in the City.

Quotes in Support of a Leisure Pool:

"Many of the features proposed in the redesign were very appealing to families with small children." - online survey

"As a resident of Old South I have an impression that the controversy about the Pool is by a very vocal minority. However, if we want more families and people in general to use the Pool the proposed changes were very good." - online survey

"It's important to remember that most users are recreational swimmers, not competitive swimmers or divers ... What is the biggest bang for our buck?"- public meeting

I "Something for everyone." - OSCO


The proposed designs contained a number of smaller elements that have not been explicitly discussed in previous sections, such as a water slide, accessibility features, bathhouse. improvements, and shade/landscaping. This section summarizes expressed opinion on these subjects, as well as other key considerations raised during the public input process related to ancillary amenities.

6.1 Water Slide

Of any proposed feature, a tower slide had the least support overall. It was viewed as a & rather than a required element and some suggested that it would not have any "staying power". Only 18% of online survey respondents described a water slide as being important or very important to their household.

The one notable .exception was the considerable interest in a water slide illustrated through the student questionnaire. Only 8% of students indicated that do not enjoy using water'slides and 56% identified a water slide as the one of the top two features they would like to see at a redeveloped Thames Pool (making it the top choice out of six features). Open-ended input (i.e., quotes) was not collected through the student survey.

Relevant Quotes:

"Slides are not exciting for teens, and do not promote physical activity." - public meeting

"Although our kids loved the slide at Stronach, they got bored with it after 20 minutes" - OSCO guest

6.2 Bathhouse

Of the few comments that were received on the proposed bathhouse improvements, all were supportive. 54% of online survey respondents described enhancements to change rooms as being important or very important to their household - this was the second highest importance rating.

1 Relevant Quotes:

"Change rooms need fixing up, family change rooms would be nice." -online survey

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6.3 Accessibility

By all accounts, accessibility improvements were suworted as key components of any new design. There was a great deal of support for the ramp and beach entry area for the fact that they will allow not only persons with disabilities easier access to the pool, but also older adults and caregivers with young children.

28% of online survey respondents indicated that special needs accessibility features would be important or very important to their household. This relatively low percentage is likely indicative of the small number of households that would require these features.

Relevant Quotes: 1 1 "Accessibility features are essential." - OSCO I "The ramp i s a positive feature, but beach entry also works well." - public meeting

6.4 Shade & Landscaping

Of the few comments that were received on the proposed shade and landscaping improvements, all were supportive. 53% of online survey respondents described shade/sun shelters as being important or very important to their household - this was the third highest importonce rating.

Relevant Quotes:

"Improved shade would be very progressive as skin cancer is the fastest rising cancer in the south-western Ontario region." - online survey

6.5 Parking

There was some concern raised regarding the need for more parking at Thames Park, particularly during peak times. OSCO indicated that it does not support the expansion of parking at this location and the group is concerned that demand for parking would increase if Thames Pool is designated a venue for competitions.

Relevant Quotes:

"Another consideration is parking access. Thames Pool would receive more .revenue if there were betfer access to parking, as currently it is at a premium." - online survey

"You need to do something about parking too, I hope, if you plan on changing this venue." - online survey

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6.6 Energy Efficiency

Solar heating and other energy efficient "green" technologies were ideas raised at the OSCO meeting and through the online survey. None of the options were presented as having any special such features.

Relevant Quotes:

"I would hope that same type of solar heating is included." -online suwey

"Pleose lteep in mind that we must lead by example in way of sustainability. Use LEED design 8, renewables." - online survey

6.7 Other Design Elements

The following specific requests were also received with regard to the planning of ancillary amenities at the Thames Pool:.

The grading of the grassed area to the west should be level or slightly raised fo allow for observation of the pool. The high potential for vandalism at this site should be considered when planning the more expensive infrastructure and features. This facility requires a pay phone. Space for food preparation should be provided.

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This section examines several non-design related considerations that emerged during the consultation process either through frequent mention or observation.

7.1 Associations & Correlations

In general, those consulted:

1 ) strongly associated a 50-metre pool with "swimming", as well as increased levels of fitness and physical activity, competitions, and sport tourism; this applies predominantly Option 1 and Option 2 to a lesser degree; and

strongly associated Option 3 (25-metre pool, leisure tank with beach entry, spray pad, and slide) with "&, as well as physical passivity and decreased opportunities for competitions.

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Opinions were more varied as to which option would accommodate the widest ranae of interests and users, as this argument was used at one time or another to support all three options.

Sclfetv was also a minor topic raised by a handful of people. Specifically, there were concerns that both Options 2 and 3 would be less safe due to the shared swimming/diving tank and the design of the beach entry area, respectively.

7.2 Public Consultation Process

At the public meeting, several concerns were expressed regarding the timing, scope, and format of the Council-approved public consultation process for the Thames Pool Redevelopment Project. Some were concerned that the participation program was not broad enough and did not take in all aquatic users (organized and recreational). There was also some scepticism about how the City would use the results of the community input sessions.

Relevant Quotes:

"Aquatic organizations other than just the London Aquatic Club and Masters Swimmers (i.e. synchronized swimming, water polo) should be consulted." - public meeting

"The online survey does not depici the 3 options or any specific details ... Feel inhibited by survey." - public meeting

Relevant Quotes: fconfinuec()

"The City doesn't care about input from residents, instead will do what is best for City." - public meeting

"Poor timing of consultation over the Christmas period ... Consultation session should be expanded into January to ensure enough feedback." -public meeting

"In order to provide feedback need to know numbers and budget information." - public meeting

"The consultation process needs to hear the right voices - if 55% of users are recreational swimmers, are we really hearing from this group?" - OSCO

7.3

Through every public input opportunity, there was a strong sense that the community feels it would be worse off by any redesign that does not replace the existing facilities. Quite clearly, the community has formed a strong attachment to the existing Thames Pool. The pool's legacy has created enduring memories for many Londoners and any change to the facility will be met with great interest and attention by those in the community. While part of this may stem from the longevity of the pool and its landmark stotus in Old South, it is also apparent that its unique features not found in any other municipal outdoor pool are valued for what they offer both the aquatic community and casual users.

Attachment to the Existing Design

Relevant Quotes:

"Given that the pool has been around for generations, many families have strong ties to the facility." -swim clubs

"There is so much protest about losing the 50m pool because people have had fun and enjoyed using it as kids, adults, and families." - SOH0

"1 have been swimming at Thames Pool for 47 years now and love it just the way it is. It is one of the very few places from my childhood that have not been torn down or modified to such a degree that they are unrecognizable in relation to my memory." -online survey

"It is a historic site in my mindl" -online survey

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7.4 Role of the Pool in Meeting Community and/or City-wide Needs

Linked very closely to the matter of sports tourism is the question of whether or not Thames Pool should be positioned to serve primarily local community needs (like most - if not all - other outdoor pools in the City) if it should be designed to primarily serve broader needs from across London and even the greater region. This was an underlying theme observed throughout the consultation process as many people cited the uniqueness of the Thames Pool design and how this makes i t a City-serving asset.

Determining how a facility is to be utilized and the target markets it is to serve is key to deciding on a preferred design. Several people expressed concern that trying to do too much and accommodating too many activities at the pool could marginalize its ability to serve anyone properly. Conversely, there was also concern that some of the proposed design specifications would restrict usage by traditional patrons (for example, deepening the pool to 1.36 metres could limit use by young children).

Relevant Quotes:

"Thames Pool should continue to offer unique features not found in other pools, especially those in proximity." - online survey

"Its uniqueness makes it a draw for all of South-western Ontario, if not farther." - swim clubs

"It would seem that the City needs to decide if Thames Pool is to be a Cify-serving pool (which would be met by Option 1) or a community-serving pool (which would be met by Option 3)." - email (OSCO)

7.5

In discussions with the public, aquatic user groups, and community organizations, it was put forth that a 50-metre pool (design options 1 and 2) has a greater impact on improving general fitness levels than does Option 3, which includes a 25-metre pool and leisure tank with beach entry. We were not provided with any empirical evidence to support or refute this claim.

Role of the Pool in terms of Active Fitness and Play

Relevant Quotes:

"Play is good, but fitness and active recreation are great." - email (swim clubs)

"Most decisions of late seem to focus on children and fun when fitness should be more of a priority." - online,survey

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Re levant Q uotes : (confinued/

"Swimming = propelling yourself through the water (for fun ar fitness). Going down a slide, going under a sprinkler, running through a shallow beach entry (for older kids), and walking on floating lily pads is not swimming, and while it may be good fun and activity for kids, it doesn't translate into adults who enjoy and know how to swim." - email (SOHO)

"I also think that in this age of "inactive" children, taking away an area of activity (swim lanes, diving well) to put in a 'lazy' river just doesn't make sense for the future health of our youth!" - online survey

7.6 Interest in Fundraising

Several of the aquatic organizations and general public indicated a willingness to assist in fundraising to have the 7'h and 8" lanes built if the budget was the limiting factor in developing an 8-lane 50-metre pool. The Diving Club (in association with its national body) also expressed a willingness to assist if a competition-quality diving facility could be developed.

Relevant Quotes:

"City should not be constrained by funding. Potential pools should be need-based, not based on available funding. If necessary, City can always fundraise." -public meeting

"What is the additional cost of providing 2 extra lanes? The community should be given the opporfunity to fundraise for extra lanes." -public meeting


City of London THAMES POOL REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT

PUBLIC CONSULTATION REPORT

JANUARY 2008

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London C A N A D A

APPENDIXA: PUBLIC MEETING NOTES

APPENDIX A: PUBLIC MEETING NOTES December IO, 2007 - South Secondary School

Attendees: 87 registered participants

Todd Brown & Steve Langlois (Monteith Brown Planning Consultants)

Phil'Fenech (Shore Tilbe Irwin Architects)

Lynn Loubert, Matt Daley, Ken Owen, Lisa Brandie, Jeff Wilson (City of London)

Question & Comments from Public have been grouped into common themes:

The Consultation Process

Aquatic organizations other than just the London Aquatic Club.and Masters Swimmers (Le. synchronized swimming, water polo) should be consulted regarding pool preferences such as depth.

Why was SOH0 given a private meeting?

Appears that community wants more input - can even do this by themselves. The community should not just contribute to, but make up the decision-making team. Letthe community take over the project.

The online survey does not depict the 3 options or any specific details. Can these be included in the questionnaire?

Does the online questionnaire provide space to input new options - can they indicate what they want? Is there an open-ended question?

Need more emphasis on the 6 vs. 8 lane Issue on the online questionnaire.

Has the dive team been consulted?

Consultation process: where did the City advertise? Only 2 weeks before Christmas Is a very busy time period. In the past, consultation process with other pools didn't use feedback from public, consequent lack of facilities.

What is the process for the rest of the consuitation? Short time frame of consultation - is there another public meeting?

Consultation is a half-hearted attempt from City. Hopes that City will take public comments into account this time.

Thinks City doesn't care about input from residents, instead will do what is best for City.

Online survey - does not incorporate a full range of input? Feel inhibited by survey.

Consultation session should be expanded into January to ensure enough feedback. Not sure if City is listening -some changes have been made to the options since the Library meeting, but only half-hearted changes. Online Survey -why ask about affiliation with swim club? Why are particular swim clubs identified, but not others? Concerns regarding the relevance of some questions. Need more input from the special needs community.

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Prefer that the community's interests are examined, but public sessions are often dominated by swimming groups. Why does the survey emphasize groups but not individuals?

Unsatisfied with online survey. Media doing a good job of raising awareness.

Poor timing of consultation over the Christmas period.

How will the community's feedback (Le., desire for 50m. 8 lane pool) be communicated to the City?

Would prefer to have the three options listed online with potential to vote.

Why were pictures provided for only Option 3; this is unfair. Option 3 was explained in much more detail than Option 1 & 2.

Costs (Capital Budaet. Fundraisinal

Do all options meet the allocated budget?

Option 1: How can this be the same cost if it is essentially the same as what is there now? (Mentioned $175,000 figure, but this is only to fix the pool, not replace entirely)

What is the cost for each option, and can this be provided? Option 3 looks much more expensive.

In order to provide feedback need to know numbers and budget information.

Understanding the cost estimates is essential to the process. What is the cost of tearing out the old pool? Must be careful not to under-estimate this cost - the pool may have been "overbuilt" or hide "surprises" underneath that will add up.

Need to know how much 2 extra lanes will cost. High cost may reduce importance.

Can the community raise funds to assist in developing what they want? Come with a cost breakdown and the community will decide if It needs more money.

What is the additional cost of providing 2 extra lanes? The community should be given the opportunity to fundraise for extra lanes.

Can money saved from going with Option 1 be put towards more lane provision? If cost estimates aren't known, how do you know that adding 2 extra lanes will be more money?

Assumption that a diving well is more expensive than a spray pad ... if not, why not provide a diving well?

Community would raise funds to increase the number of lanes.

It would be reasonable for the City to check the budget and let the community know.

City should not be constrained by funding. Potential pools should be need-based, not based on available funding. If necessary, City can always fundraise. What are the requirements to expand the pool area's footprint? Has this possibility been raised yet? Is expansion beyond the building envelope necessary or possible?

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APPENDIX A PUBLIC MEETING NOTES

Existina Thames Park Pool

Current issues at pool: lack of parking, lack of facilities for preparing/eating food, need for a public pay phone.

Happy with the facility the way it is.

Pool is currently too shallow for play.

Community only wants what they currently have, just updated.

Concerned about the City’s numbers and deductions ... 3‘ most popular pool means it is currently well-used and a good design (not under-utilizedl)

Believe that the existing pool provides all that is needed.

Support for 50-metre pool

Regarding the chart indicating the elements involved with each option, shouldn’t swimming in a 50m pool be considered to be “Interactive sport/play”?

It is clear what the three options are and community knows what it wants (50-m pool).

Prefer 50 m, 8 lane pool. Can separate use of pool to accommodate swlmming lanes, lessons, and swim meets.

Why a 25-m pool? Why change from existing size?

50m pool is desired by both recreational and competitive swimmers.

Reason for 50m pool is lack of space in smaller pool. Stronach crowded and over- programmed. Need more space provided.

Water Polo representative: Likes increase in depth, but need minimum of 8 lanes and 30m length for competition and for triathlon swimming. Walls every 25 metres not great for competitive swimmers. Limited use of pool at UWO for outside groups. No interest in leisure pools (“over-sized bathtub”).

Existing pool design perfect for families and great for teens. Even the 50m pool becomes crowded, so cannot reduce lanes or size of pool. The pool builds community, and competitive events inspire children. Later on, the city can add more features and fundraise for spray pad.

Need a 50m pool to provide space for multiple users.

Would like to see a fourth option consisting of a diving well, 50 metre pool, and spray pad.

The most interest is for a dwinghvadinglpool combo (Option I), which accommodates both fitness and recreation users.

Prefer Option 1 with 8 lanes and a diving well.

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Suimort for 8 lanes

Reduction of 8 lanes to 6 lanes -whose decision was it? Why? Does this meet competitive requirements? Will the width be the same regardless of 25 or 50 metre pool?

Have never seen a competitive pool that has only 6 lanes.

What was the response from the Swim Team regarding provision of only 6 lanes? Any

Surprised that 8-lane issue only just came to light. Why not earlier? Have they checked numbers thoroughly? Doubts raised about statistics at pool.

Need an 8 lane pool ... more lanes = more bodies in the pool. City should develop this in stages. 3 diving boards, 8 lanes, but develop more slowly. What are the stages of this work? Pool can be used in many ways. Should be same as now but bigger. Use of . pyramids, rock walls, slides as add-on in a phased approach.

Need for an 8 lane pool (6 lane pool can’t accommodate competitions).

It is a waste to reduce to only 6 lanes.

, sizable competition requires more than 6 lanes.

Divinq Well

Want to keep dive tank to provide outdoor aquatic opportunities.

Forest City Dive Club representative: Have one venue currently (CGAC). Would like to train outdoors for national championship. Group would like to help with design. Would like well at end of pool, but separate is preferred. At least 2xIm boards, 2x3m boards, 5m, 7m board (total of 6 boards). Would allow them to host international competitions. Groups will contribute money, but don’t want city to make another mistake. Diving is inspirational sport.

Wadina Pool and/or Smav Pad

Have difficulties in the pool with multiple children. Don’t want the wading pool or spray pad to be separate from the big pool, but don’t want to pay for its use. How can use of facilities be combined to maintain this public service (i.e., reduced admission price for kids under 6 or parents accompanying children)? Encourage use by reducing cost.

Already have a spray pad nearby. It‘s better to preserve the wading pool because London has lost most others akeady. Need for simpler play structures. Spray pads routinely break down. Children can still have fun on less equipment.

Children cannot learn to swim in a spray pad.

Don’t want spray pads. Importance of wading pool or zero en@. Too many wading pools have been replaced. Could design potentially be a mix of a spray pad and wading pool? Wading pool is great for small children, some shade nearby. Wading pool is a lifeline for children. Older children can visit by themselves and may like the 50m pool for more than swimming laps. Wading pool is essential because it is free. .

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APPENDIX A: PUBLIC M E m N G NOTES

Discussion about Leisure Pool Desian

Which design will have the most attraction? Important to remember most users are recreational swimmers, not competitive swimmers/ divers. The new 50m pool at UWO may negate need for other competitive facilities. What Is the biggest bang for our buck?

There is a similar pool built at Stronach -attractive but not safe. Good pool to have in the City, but don’t necessarily need more than one. Difficult place to use, even accessible features difficult. In option 3, the ramp juts out so that children have water on both sides. Possible safety issue?

Public not as interested in a multi-use (leisure design) pool, they want opportunities for more activity. Have concerns with the Stronach Pool design.

Tower Slide

Slides are not exciting for teens, and do not promote physical activity.

Proaramming

Option 3 - how can the pool provide space for both lane swimmers and recreational swimmers at the same time in a 25m,pool? Can the City provide a feasible schedule or programming options so that community can better decide?

Accessibility

Are the accessibility features of Options 1 and 2 accessible to wheelchairs? Special needs users will need a slow ramp.

The ramp is a positive feature, but beach entry also works well.

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APPENDI~ B SWIM CLUBS FOCUS GROUP NOTES

APPENDIX B: SWIM CLUBS FOCUS GROUP NOTES December 6,2007 - Canada Games Aquatic Centre

Attendees: Bill Young, David Davidson (London Aquatic Club)

Paul Cappa, Jan Shillington, Marketa Myatt, Nick Gilbert, Chuck Grace (London Silver Dolphins I summer lane swimmers, triathlon swimming)

Todd Brown & Steve Langlois (Monteith Brown Planning Consultants)

Lynn Loubert, Matt Daley, Ken Owen (City of London)

1. Tell us about your organization?

London Aquatic Club

120 members (from development to Olympic level, ages 8 to about 27) -competitive swimmers (most are In the pool 3 to 9 times per week)

Use Thames Pool as soon as it opens: start moving some programs from CGAC the 1' Saturday of June: 60 practices a year

Most years, the Club uses the pool up to mid-July; every 4 years the Club has Olympic qualifiers and they make use of Thames Pool later into the season (up to mid-August)

The Club enjoys using Thames Pool - it is important for swimmers to get a "fresh air break" in what is a long season for many of them

Have hosted the 3-day Hauch Invitational swim meet since about 1935 (approximately 300 swimmers each year): it is a "legendary" meet that they are very proud of and a significant fundraiser for the Club; the event is probably the only sanctioned outdoor swim meet in Southwestern Ontario (and possibly all of Ontario); the shallowness of the pool does not meet regulations, but because of its age, it has been grandfathered in; they relocate the blocks from CGAC

London Silver Doiohins I Summer Lane Swimmers

Have over I 0 0 members (ages 18+, although most of their swimmers are in their ~ O ' S , 40's and 50's); most of the members are fitness swimmers, although they do have some competitive swimmers and triathletes: the group indicates that they are growing quickly

They use the CGAC for 10 months of the year - they have no formal program in July and August, but many of their members swim at Thames Pool during the summer (lunchtime, Tuesday, Thursday night, etc.); the informal summer program is not organized, coached, or advertised: the group feels that turnout in the summer would be greater if the C i i advertised that the pool was open on morning and at lunch

Their motto is "Fun, fit, fast" (in that order)

Growing demand - many are not competitive ("probably 40% fit into the obese category") Triathlon Swimminq

APPENDIX B: SWIM CLUBS FOCUS GROUP NOTES

2. What are your thoughts about the existing Thames Pool?

- Likes

Thames Pool is centrally-located, making it a City-serving destination (people are willing to drive) - its uniqueness makes it a draw for all of South-western Ontario, if not farther

50-metre design -the group preferred long courses as swimmers don't have to turn as much and don't bump into other swimmers as much: the 50m course is also a challenging environment that is good for kids (there is a sense of pride when they first are able to swim the entire length); the 50m outdoor design is rare in Canada: the 50m length also has a positive impact on general fitness levels

It is located in a nice setting - enjoy swimming outside; the park is large and open (which allows for participants in the Hauch meet to utilize the rest of the site); parents can swim when kids play ball; like that it is on a bike path

Like that it is a 'swimming pool' and not a 'play facility'

The size of the pool also offers flexibility (e.g., parents can swim when their children take lessons in another part of the pool: it can be used for many water sports such as diving or water polo)

Like that it is heated

Given that the pool has been around for generafions, many families have strong ties to the facility

Dislikes

The depth of the pool is too shallow (both for the Hauch swim meet and for many fitness swimmers): the shallowness makes it a 'slow' pool - "it needs to be at least one foot deeper" Not enough parking (peak times are at lunchtime in July and nights when there are ball games in the park)

Deterioratlng concrete pool tank

3. What type of design and features are required for your group's activities?

=E: Earlier in 2007, the Cify consulted with the London Aquatics Club's Technical Director to develop a 25-metre design that could potentially be capable of supporting Club training and the Hauch Annual swim meet. Although the Club prefers the 50-metre design, if the Cify were to move forward with a smallerpool, the following requirements would apply; this was confirmed in our meeting with the Club on December 6,2007:

o The gutter at the deep end of the pool would be eliminated and replaced with a cove edge that will accommodate touch pads and the necessary wires.

o The anchors would be installed in the deck so the start blocks from the Canada Games Aquatic Centre can be brought to the Thames Pool for the annual swim meet.

o Back stroke, and false start anchors would be Included in the deck work. ' o The I-metre diving board would be moveable so as not to interfere with start

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o The width of the pool would be sufficient to allow gutter ropes on the sides, as well as standard FINA lane widths.

o Electrical components would be included to supporf pace clocks and needs of scoring equipment

o Sufficient deck space would be available on the west side of the deck to accommodate bleachers, if required.

The London Aquatic Club concurred with the series of technical requirements that the City has planned into the pool, but did supplement some with additional comments:

o To support competitive swimming (as any redevelopment of the pool would negate the grandfather clause), a depth of 1.36 metres (4.5 feet) is required

The grading of the grassed area to the west slopes downward -would prefer that this be level or slightly raised to allow for observation of the pool (parents like to view their children from the side of the pool)

There is a high potential for vandalism at this site given its location near the Civ core - there is a need to consider this with regard to the more expensive infrastructure and features

Efforts should be made to reduce the strength of the jets as they can push kids around (note: the City clarified that the proposed floor returns would eliminate this issue)

Need more shade: natural vegetation is preferred over man-made shade structures, but need to be careful that the debris doesn't dirty the water: long canopies could also be considered as these are both inexpensive and effective (e.g., as seen In Fort Meyers); the question was also posed if there could be shade installed over the benches proposed at the south end of the pool?

Consideration should also be given to lighting the pool (to the same degree that it already is), especially to accommodate the 8 pm to 9 pm swims in late summer (note: the City clarified that security lighting would be installed, which is the same as what currently exists) If diving boards are part of the main tank, they should be offset so that at least 2 lanes for length swimming could remain open when diving is in session

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4. What are your thoughts on the other proposed features (e.g., leisure pool, spray pad, etc.)? Note: As the user groups only make use of the lane pool, it is the Consultant's view that the opinions expressed under the topic were made from a personal perspective, not from a Club perspective.

Spray Pad versus Wading Pool: o The Forks of the Thames spray pad is free and less than one-kilometre away -

isn't this acceptable?

o Prefer wading pools because they introduce young children to water

o With a wading pool, you don't have to worry about kids wandering into the deep end

Prefer the diving tank to be separate from the swimming tank because this allows both activities to be undertaken simultaneously

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Already have beach entry pools in th8 City: the City should provide some variation

Usage of flutter boards, balls, and water toys at rec swim time (when the pool is divided into rec swim and lane swim areas) Is only a mild annoyance for lane swimmers; the bigger issue is non-lane swimmers trying to casually lane swim and getting in the way

5. What are the requirements for the Hauch Swim Meet?

Aside from the size of the pool, most of the technical requirements have been covered off by the City in its design components

Hauch is a “fun’ meet and an invitational, therefore, they have the option to invite fewer teams; a smaller pool would probably reduce the number of teams by 25%, although they are unsure of the impact

The Club also suggested that a 25m pool would put the Hauch meet at a 50% risk of disappearing; nevertheless, the Club would still prefer that their technical requirements

eliminated

. . be met in a 25m design because without these, the meet would undoubtedly be

6. Number of lanes in a 50-metre pool.

Main question is why would the City consider a 50-metre design with only 6 lanes and not 8? This is an abnormal design. If the issue is budget, maybe the City should ask the clubs to fundraise to cover the costs of the extra 2 lanes (the group felt that there is a real opportunity to fund-raise if the existing deign is maintained).

An &lane 50m pool would allow the City to bid on the long-course provincial series (8- lanes are a requirement for this level); the Masters group could also consider doing a long-course meet (economic spin-off); City cannot easily accommodate any additional meets at the CGAC due to the need to balance Club versus community use at this venue)

The group felt that an 8 lane format would be the most practical in the long-run as it would open up more opportunities for meets and also creates additional flexibility for programming (more space to divide up to allow for simultaneous usage)

7. What are the pros and cons of a 25-metre and a 50-metre pool design?

The trend that is being seen is that short-course (25-m) competitions will disappear In 20 years as the focus shifts to long-course meets (50-m); as it stands today, there are no short-course meets in the summer (only long-course)

With Canada trying to boost its Olympic image, a 50m pool would be the better investment; with a 50m pool, we might see a renaissance in swimming

It is hard to get enough time for long-course training at the CGAC because of the shared spacehime agreement (Le., the bulkheads divide the pool into smaller areas for most of the day) London does not have enough pool time (indoor or outdoor) as it is - if another pool is lost, this would be ‘criminal’

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With a 25m tank

o there is enough demand to require the entire pool to be blocked off for lane swimming at lunchtime

o many to most lane swimmers and trlathletes would go elsewhere (the pool would no longer have anything unique to offer)

o the lane capacity is much less (maybe 6 people per lane) and, because there is a broad range of swim speeds, the City would need 3 to 4 lanes at all times t accommodate everyone

o the number of London Aquatic Club long-course practices would be ‘significantly reduced’

o the only 50m tank left in the City would be the CGAC; many other communities have 2 or more 50m tanks (although Ontario is a poor example of this) -the City can’t accommodate current demand as it is

It was felt that there are many opportunities in the City for 25-metre swimming and learn to swim, but precious few for 50m - Thames Pool is a unique facility; don’t want it to be like Stronach, Oakridge, Gibbons pools, etc.

As mentioned earlier, the group felt that a 50m design offered greater flexibility of use and is more adaptive for the changlng community over the years Whatever happens, the ultimate design needs to be able to accommodate swim lessons, although maybe younger children could be encouraged to use other facilities (if the depth of Thames Pool is not conducive to their lessons)

The London Aquatic Club uses Thames Pool first and foremost because it is a 50-metre design, not because it is outside

If given the option, the group agreed that they would rather sacrifice the diving well instead of the extra two lanes (e.g., prefer an 8-lane pool with deep/diving end in the same tank)

8. Having already discussed Options 1 and 2 In great depth, what are your thoughts on Option 3, which is the design that is most dlfferent from the current facility?

Many felt that they would not use the pool described in Option 3; they would only use it as an emergency option for training

The group also feels that the community doesn’t support Option 3 -from the August public meeting, they felt the sentiment was that the community likes the ‘uniqueness’ of the pool and that the like that the design gives them a true opportunity to swim

In any public debate, consensus and balance are required. Don’t feel that Option 3 is a ‘balanced’ design as it would disenfranchise the 40% of users that come from outside Old South, including the competitive swimmers and triathletes

Not every pool needs to be everything to everyone

The group questioned what is being gained in Option 37 Although they noted that it has some great features for kids, they countered that the population is aging; in fact. the Masters swim club is turning people away because they cannot get enough pool time

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9. Additional comments,

The economic impact of the pool (related to its ability to host meets and competitions) should be considered

There was a concern that the City's decision-makers don't understand swimming, that they will support Option 3 because it is 'pretty', even though this would entirely. disenfranchise the swim clubs

Love the accessibility ramps in Options 1 and 2, but could these be made wider? Accessibility is very important

The City must not 'cheap out' on this project; if budget is the issue, then the City should identify alternate sources of funding rather than just saying 'no' -it needs to be done right (&lanes, 50m)

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APPENDIX C: DIVING CLUB INTERVIEW NOTES

APPENDIX C: DIVING CLUB INTERVIEW NOTES December 13,2007

Attendees: Bernie Olanski (Forest City Diving Club) - December IOih and 13"

Mitch Gelier (Diving Plongeon Canada) and Bernie Olanski - December 131h

Todd Brown (Monteith Brown Planning Consultants)

I . Tell us about your organization?

Membership includes:

A non-profit organization that has existed since 1986

o I O divers between 10 and 18 years of age that complete Nationally

o 10 divers between 8 and 16 years of age that compete Provincially

o Learn to Dive Program that fluctuates at around 85 people per session aged 6 to 16 years for each of 3 sessions per year

o Adult Learn to Dive ranges between 5 and 10 pedple aged over 20 years o Offer a summer camp every week in July and August with 20 to 40 participants

per camp (8 camps in total)

o Offer March Break and Christmas time camps in some years

o Enrolment is somewhat cyclical with higher interest and participation following an Olympic year

o Use the Canada Games Aquatic Centre every day

2. What are your thoughts about the existing Thames Pool? - Likes

Dislikes

Kids enjoy the outdoor experience

The more people see the sport the more interest and padicipation it will attract

The Thames Pool has not been used much bythe organization as it is old and the diving boards are not in good condition. The Club did use the facility in 2007 to train for an outdoor competition (the City did not allow them to replace the diving boards with their own) -they used the diving facility 1.5 hours per day, 5 days a week from June to mid- July (6 weeks) for the competition training - did not feel enough time was available to them and felt that they could also increase recreational programs if more time was available.

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3. What type of design and features are requlred for your group’s activities?

Want to see the City develop the facilii to support the diving program which.ideally includes a diving tower (3, 5,7 and IO-metre heights) as well as spring boards (two 1- metre and two 3-metre boards).

I-metre and 3-metre boards are essential (two of each) in order to allow for both “learn to dive” and “competitive” activities.

Although the diving could be incorporated into the same tank as the lap pool, this would cause a conflict between uses/activities and require that the pool be programmed to limit diving and lane swimming activities as they could not occur at the same time in the vicinity of the diving area.

4. What are your thoughts on the other proposed features (e.g., leisure pool, spray pad, etc.)?

The organization felt that other possible pool features would not be well used.

They felt that the City would be short-sighted to reduce the lane pool from a 50-metre facility to a 25-metre facility.

The Club indicated that a 25-metre pool would not support a competitive diving program and would not allow for the organization to increase interest in the sport or the resulting physical fitness benefits.

5. Additional comments.

Montreal hosted a highly successful outdoor competition last year and the Club used the Thames Pool facility to practise for the competition. They believe that outdoor diving competitions are growing in interest nationally and didn’t see that until the Montreal event.

Diving Plongeon Canada and the Forest City Diving Club note the following:

o London would be in an enviable position if the City were to provide an outdoor competitive diving facility with a tower and would be well positioned to host national and possibly international events.

o The local organization has a lot of experience in hosting events. They feel that they could bring added success to a new outdoor venue.

o The future of diving clubs is dependent upon attrading participants to the sport. The Thames Pool facility could provide for added exposure.

o Operating an outdoor summer dive program is beneficial for the community - it is healthy and would take some pressure off the Canada Games Aquatic Centre.

o They feel that London should, at a minimum, design the facility with the potential to expand (e.g., add a diving tower at a later date) so the design needs to provide for that flexibility.

o “L-shaped” pools have also had a lot of success for integrating diving and swimming.

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APPENDIX C DIVING CLUB INTERVIEW NOTES

o A diving platform would bring the facility to a national level and would need bubblers and sprayers for diving as well as an on-deck hot shower and temporary spectator seating.

o The Canada Games Aquatic Centre has its challenges for the organization especially in hosting events (e.9.. lack of audience space, towers do not meet FlNA width standards, amount of deck space is limited, and noise and temperature control are difficult).

o Believe that the City needs to obtain the “consultation consultant‘s” opinion on the design, instead of City staff making the recommendation.

o The National organization supports and has confidence in the London club - the club needs a top quality facility in order to attract more people to the activity and to be competitive.

o The National organization will work with the local club to seek funding to assist with developing a higher level outdoor diving facility.

o Feel that hosting events go a long way in paying for a facility, if not directly, indirectly to the City.

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APPENDIX D: OLD SOUTH COMMUNIN ORGANIZATION (OSCO) MEETING NOTES

APPENDIX D:

December 11,2007 - Landon Library

OLD SOUTH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION COSCO) MEETING NOTES

Attendees: David Fiett, Mary Kerr. Bob Porter, Susan Shaw, Douglas Moke, Ron Nurse, Susan Devries, Bard Macdonell, Gordon Saylor, Ross Lemon, Deb.Dobson

Christina McDonald, James McDonald, Fabienne Haller (local residents)

Brenda Shervill (Wortley Village Business Association)

Steve Langlois (Monteith Brown Planning Consultants)

Lynn Loubert, Lisa Brandie, Ken Owen, Jeff Wilson, Kristen Daley (City of London)

(OSCO)

1. What is the Old South Community Organization (OSCO) Organization about7

OSCO is a “high-capacity” community organization that has been in existence for over 25 years.

They are a non-elected (12 to 16 directors), volunteer voice for the Old South community (loosely defined as being between Wellington Road, Commissioners Road, Wharncliffe Road, and the Thames Rlver).

They have taken an active role in planning and development issues in the past and have assisted with funding several community events and organizations.

They stated that they are “well plugged into the issues of the community”. They also have a new website and newsletter.

They described the Old South area as being a self-sustaining, diverse area that has evolved over the years - a “town within a city”. It was stated that many people are long-time residents and that many who move away often come back later in life.

Demographically, they feel that there is a wide mix of people (ranging from single person households to large families) and incomes. It was stated that there are always a lot of children that come out to the community events; other anecdotal evidence suggests to them that the area has a substantial young family component to complement the older long-time residents.

Wortley village is a small commercial corridor that contributes to the pedestrian- oriented nature of the community.

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2. What are your initial thoughts about coming to tonight’s meeting? 0 OSCO is pleased to be asked to be part of the Thames Pool consultation program.

They see the facility redevelopment as an excellent opportunity for the area as this is a key facility in an area that has few other significant recreational facilities.

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3. The three proposed design options were presented to the group and attendees were each given a few mlnutes to dlscuss their thoughts on the deslgns. Thelr comments are presented ln summary form below

Particioant #1 Concerned about the proposed depth of the pool (4.5ft); would prefer something shallower like what is there today in order to facilitate usage by younger children

Prefer Option 3 because of the depth transition

Would like to see some ‘green’ environmental features built into this (energy efficiency)

ParticiDant #2

Prefer Option 2 because it provides more features (e.g., slide, spray pad) -best of both worlds

Participant #3

Accessibility features are essential

Don’t see a need for the spray pad as there is one close by at the Forks of the Thames (and don’t want to have to pay to use)

Participant #4 (OSCO quest1

Prefer Option 1 because of the separate dive tank (our children are divers), but want to see 8 lanes instead of 6

Option 3 seems too much like a theme park - don’t think it is that useful

Accessibility features are great

Participant #5 (OSCO quest1

Prefer Option 1 because of the separate dive tank and 50m pool, which seems more flexible as it could attract more users and competitions

Perhaps the diving community would be interested in fundraising for some of the construction costs

Don’t mind walking the extra 3 blocks to the free spray pad

Would like to see some ‘green’ environmental features (solar heating)

Accessibility features are great

Participant #6 (OSCO quest)

Have a family of 5 (purchase the family pass)

Prefer Option 1 as it offers more flexibility (kids of all ages can play in the pool), but have concerns that the 50m pool is only 6 lanes

Teens (ages 10-16) love the diving well - this age group is often left out when it comes to other recreational facilities, so the diving well is a great opportunity Love the fact that the wading pool is free - there are a lot of lower income households in the area that can make use of this

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Concerned that the proposed 25m pool in Option 3 would bee too crowded and unsafe (like the Stronach pool); although our kids loved the slide at Stronach, they got bored with it after 20 minutes - there is no fitness component to this feature

Prefer Option 1 because of the free wading pool and separate diving well; our daughter grew up in this pool

Not a pool user, but prefer Option 1 because of the separate areas

Have never used Thames Pool (have a backyard pool)

Prefer Option 3 because it has both a leisure pool and swimming lanes (it has something for everyone); nevertheless, feel that a free wading pool or spray pad is essential and that the slide is not necessary

Would like to see 'green' technology used in the new design

Support Option 3 because it has something for everyone

As much as it is a City-wide pool,.the park is already very well used

Concerned that Options 1 and 2 would create the need for more parking, which is something that OSCO does not support at this location

Also concerned that the new competitive events that could result from Options 1 and 2 would reduce community access to the pool

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Participant #8

Participant #9

Participant # I O

Participant # I 1

We have small children - how are you consulting with this age group (they are obviously an unorganized group, could you go to an early years centre)?

The consultation process needs to hear the right voices - if 55% of users are . recreational swimmers, are we really hearing from this group? How are we consulting with lower income users?

Prefer Option 3, but want to have a free component. Although a wading pool is not as exciting for children as a spray pad, it seems safer because there is less running.

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Participant # I2

Prefer Option 3 because it is more family-oriented, although Option 2 is acceptable as well.

Participant # I3 It would seem that the City needs to decide if Thames Pool is to be a City-serving pool (which would be met by Option 1) or a community-serving pool (which would be met by Option 3). Preferthe spray pad to be within the pool fence because this provides greater security to both the children and the equipment.

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To address the cost of entry, would it be possible for the City to allow children under a certain age to use the pool for free? As it stands right ncw, lower income household s can apply for a subsidy through the City of London for recreation programs.

Need to strike the best balance/compromise, while still serving all ages of children. It would be great if the 50m pool can be maintained, but it is not critical ... what about a 25m 8-lane pool - would this meet any needs?

Feel that the spray pad is the most expendable component

Prefer a modified version of Option 3 that has a leisure pool, 25m pool, and a diving well (no spray pad or slide)

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APPENDIX E SOUTH OF HORTON COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION (SOHO) MEETING’NOTES

APPENDIX E:

December 5,2007 - Landon Library

SOUTH OF HORTON COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION ISOH01 MEETING NOTES

Attendees: Marie Claire and Nick Bilyk (SOHO organbers/local residents) Steve Langlois & Caroline Draper (Monteith Brown Planning Consultants) Lynn Loubert, Lisa Brandie. Ken Owen (City of London)

I Note: Italicized text represents comments received in SOHOs written submission.

I. What is the SOHO Organization about?

The group formed in response to difficulties with ongoing drug problems in the neighbourhood (about 2-3 months ago). SOHO is looking to focus on the positives in the community and to use art as a way to get people together. To date, SOHO has started a neighbourhood directory and a website with a directory of artists, local businesses, and local events. The group is hosting a pub night and seminars in the near future. The SOHO neighbourhood is defined as south of the’track (at Horton) between the Thames River and Adelaide. They believe the community has a high percentage of kids-at-risk, natives, and people with disabilities.

2. What are your initial thoughts about coming to tonight’s meeting?

Happy that the community’s opinions are being recognized and that the City is re-considering the options. It is decent to reconsider everything.

3. How do you use the Thames Park Pool?

As Marie Claire Bilyk is a former Para Olympic swimmer and Nick Bilyk has a competitive swimming background and fond memories of the Thames Park Pool, their family frequently uses the pool for both leisure and lane swimming. Use the diving well, wading pool, and 50 metre pool.

4. What are your group’s initial thoughts about this project?

From canvassing our community, found that certain people are not aware of the plan to redevelop the Thames Park Pool, while others are. Gained feedback from 8 to 10 people - but these are mostly the people who are not “at-risk“ in our community. Like the 50 metre pool with the wading pool being separate (more calm for little children). Little pool allows for pre-swimming skills and a lot of shade. The 50 metre pool is helpful when camps are using the pool (so many kids).

They see the redevelopment of the Thames Park Pool as an improvement, but wondering whether it will attract more users. Do not feel that pool is used enough. Although the redevelopment 1s good public relations.

The SOHO community is also directly served by the wading pool in Meredith Park, which they indicated they are frequent users of.

The old Thames Pool is in need of major restoration but the nature of fhe original proposed changes were aimed at increasing pool use. The nature of the proposed

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changes assumed that pool usage was down because the pool wasn't exciting enough. This is pure speculation.

Here are some other possible explanations for low pool use:

o More and more families have parents that are working with children in childcare. Many families are not able to go swimming during the hottest parf of the day.

o Work weeks are longer, holiday time is shorter, lives are more rushed and hectic, and stress levels are higher than ever before. Such experiences lead to seklentary lifestyles (ex. Exhaustedparents pick the kids up from the sifter, grab McDonald's take-out on the way home, and vedge in front of the TV for the rest of the evening)

o Promote pool use through all summer day camps and childcare facilities o Do major advertising and educational campaigns to encourage families to come

to the pool

Such explanations for low pool use would necessitate the following solutions: .

5. What is the difference between a 25 metre and 50 metre pool? A 50 metre pool provides continuous swimming and allows a swimmer to keep the same tempo. It is a more relaxing way to swim and one runs into people less. There are. only a handful of 50 metre outdoor pools in Canada (maybe 3-4 that they are aware of - they are a "novelty").

6. What challenges do you see with the existing pool?

The change rooms are dark and some people mind that they are open change rooms. Need more shade on the deck and wheelchair access (potentially a ramp that could also be used by pregnant women). But like the way it is currently designed.

Provide shaded areas for relief from the sun.

7. Would you say that your comments tonight reflect the SOHO group?

Could not say for certain that their opinions represent SOHO because their group has not seen all three options. They are also a diverse group.

8. Thoughts on Option #I:

Why is the 50 metre pool not 8 lanes?

Like how grass has been kept, as well as the shade component.

Prefer 50 metre pool over 25 metre. Like the addition of the ramp into the pool. Have a ramp entry, not a beach enty, to assist people with mobility issues. A ramp (like the one at the Boys and Girls Club new pool) gives people maximum support because there are handrails on both side to aid one's entry. A beach en ty offers no handrail supporf.

Keep the 50 metre pool, not a 25 metre and a wave pool. The 50m length is ram and a community treasure to be preserved and enjoyed. A wave pool requires a lot of energy fo run and promotes physical passivity. Flabby kids are sloshed about on machine made

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waves instead of using their own muscles, lungs, and hearts to-swim, jump, paddle, glide, and splash their way through the water.

Keep the diving well with ?m and 3m boards, not a fancy waterslide. Diving and jumping from the boards fakes much more muscular confml and physical skill than plopping one's chubby buff on a wafer slide. Many young boys especially get their thrills from leaping off the high board, if if's taken away, these kids will get their thrills somewhere else. .. ...p erhaps through risky or destructive behaviour.

Keep the wading pool, not a splash pad. Toddlers and preschoolers le4(m invaluable pre- swimming skills in a gradual entry wading pool. Splash pads do not provide anyone with the opportunity to develop swimming skills. I f fakes far less energy and skill to waddle under a sprinkler, than propel one's self through the water. For those who enjoy the freezing jolt of a splash pad, there is the Forks of the Tbamesjusf a little to the north.

9. Thoughts on Option #2: Concerns about play area - doesn't help parents who have children in both the spray pad area and the pool. Can't watch both areas.

Older kids may run around the splash area and run into little kids.

Concern about the energy costs of running this type of spray pad.

Would the shallow end be very crowded?

Like the diving area for strength (fitness and fun) --active play.

Spray pad doesn't teach kids how to swim. Also concerned that water is too cold.

There is a need for both the 1 metre and 3 metre diving boards to meet the needs of younger and older kids (it is draw for boy ages 8 to 15).

Slide could be a draw for kids.

10. Thoughts on Option #3:

As the pool is used mostly for recreational swimming and making the pool component only 25 metres with lanes compromises the lane swimming aspect.

Concern with gradual entry (older kids could run across the shallow end. klds shouldn't be able to stand on the islands in the water).

Concern with the loss of the 50 metre pool.

Already have a spray pad at the fork of the Thames. We need to keep a wading pool to help little kids learn how to swim.

1 I. Preferred Optlon? Went on record as endorsing Option #2, as it is a blend of old and new. Includes opportunities for a variety of users. Their group really wants to know why families use the pool or don't use the pool. Sad to see that we will have to pay to use the spray pad. Also sad to see the wading pool go, but the "horse and buggy" had to go at one time too.

Keep the wading pool slightly separate from the larger, deeper pool. This ensures that larger, more rambunctious kids don't trip, frample, or crash into the wee ones.

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12. Other Comments?

Need a crosswalk between Horton Street and Grand Avenue. 1. A crosswalk and traffic light where the bike path crosses Richmond Sf. just a few meters south of Grey Sf. Families, children, and people with disabilities (particulatly those with visual impaiments and mobility issues) must be able to get from SOHO to Thames Park safely.

Want to see more aerobic/aquafit programming for all ages. Hire staff to provide Aquafit classes during Adult Fitness Swimming. Many adults may be interested in enjoying water based fitness, but not interested or able to swim lengths.

Invest in noodles, balls, small foam rafts, and other simple water toys, not large contraptions like anchored, floating lily-pads. We have seen other pools with such fixtures and if makes for very dangerous, chaotic, and difficult to guard swimming.

Through a follow up e-mail sent on December 6. 2007, Marie Claire Bilyk provided the following additional input:

o Stated a preference for a 50 metre pool, with a diving well (I and 3 metre boards), and a wading pool (via a bulkhead- with a beach entry at the north end and going to a depth of 2 feet). Feels that this type of design would allow for the wading pool water to be properly filtered and cleaned.

o Thames Pool can be a place for refreshing water play, an incubator for a life-long love of aquatic fitness, and important to the London community.

Through a follow up e-mail sent on December 7. 2007, Marie Claire Bilyk provided the following additional input:

o There are many features and benefits to a model similar to the existing one. For example, the "shallow - deep - shallow" style of the 50m tank challenges kids to swim over the deep part, where as a consistent depth would not provide kids with this physical challenge and opportunity to develop deep swimming skills.

o 1 am more and more convinced that the Thames Pool debate needs to seriously consider the "fitness" implications, not just the recreational ones. Swimming equates to propelling yourself through the water (for fun or ffiness), whereas going down a slide, going under a sprinkler, running through a shallow beach entry (for older kids), and walking on floating lily pads is not swimming (and while it may be good fun and activity for kids, It doesn't translate into adults who enjoy and know how to swim as adults).

o The City should work with an Exercise Specialist to assess the fitness promoting features of the models. We can't assume the average person will recognize such aspects of the various designs. People may think they like the "fancy/flashy" design of Option 3 without realizing its implications for the physical health of the community. There have been many trends in the past which unwittingly moved away from what was later realized as belng a healthler/better choice.

o Each model needs to be assessed in terms of their various features and benefits. Promoting a physically healthy community should be a huge part of this discussion. Don't forget that there is so much protest about losing the 50m pool because people have had fun and enjoyed using it as kids, adults, and families.

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APPENDIX F SUMMARY OF ONLINE SURVEY RESULTS

APPENDIX F: SUMMARY OF ONLINE SURVEY RESULTS

1) Methodology

From December 5 to 21, a self-administered web-based survey was posted on the City of London’s website. This public input tool was publicized at all consultation events, a newspaper advertisement, an extensive email list, and on the City’s homepage for a period of time.

In total, 388 submissions were received, with the vast majority completing all questions. The results were captured and tabulated using a third-party service. There was a limit of one survey per computer and ail responses were anonymous.

2) Purpose

The purpose of the survey was to gather input from a wide range of individuals from across the entire City, including but not limited to those that were specifically involved in the other consultation initiatives.

The survey contained fifteen questions aimed at establishing pool usage profiles for the respondents and facility design preferences for the redeveloped Thames Pool. Due to its focus on activity preferences and specific facility features, the three detailed design options for the facility were not part of the survey.

Given the voluntary and non-random nature of the survey, its results cannot be considered representative of the population. With any survey of this type, there is a likely bias towards those with Internet access. Furthermore, people with strong opinions on the subject matter and those that became aware of the survey because of this were likely more inclined to complete the survey.

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3) Results

Usaae of Thames Park Pool

93% of all survey respondents indicated that their household typically uses the Thames Park pool. o n average, each household contains 2.7 pool users. The pie chart indicates that 41% of respondents live in households that utilize the pool more than 20 times in a typical summer.


In a typlcal summer, how many tlmes does your household use Thames pool?

We do not use I - 5 timw

More than limes 41 %

\16-20times 10%

6 - 10 times 15%

- 15 limes 11%

The following data illustrates when households prefer to use Thames Park pool:

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What time of Day /Week does your household primarlly use Thamespool?

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As illustrated below, the top activities that respondents use Thames Pool for are:

(1) lane swimming - 54%; (2) recreational swimming and play - 49%; and (3) City of London Teams - 34%.

What does your household primarily use Thames pool for?

City of London Teams (swimming, didng, waterpolo. synchro) 54%

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Swim Lessans

4% I Other (various)

We do not use the pool

0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 60% 60%

Open-ended comments received in response to the "other" category represented 4% or fewer of ai respondents.

When compared with usage data provided by the City of London (where recreational swimming comprises 55% of all swims, City teams and London Aquatic Club usage 16%. and lane swimming 8%), it is quite possible those responding to the web-based survey are not entirely representative of ail Thames Pool users. It bears noting that the web-based survey recorded type of use (not frequency), while the City usage data noted above relates to total swims (frequency).

The data suggests that the survey was skewed towards frequent pool users (rather than occasional users), including those with an interest in lane swimming and organized club activity. This is borne out by the finding that two-thirds of respondents (34%) indicated that someone in their household is a member, coach, or volunteer with the London Aquatic Club or the London Silver Dolphins Masters Swim Club.

Evaluation of Existina Thames Pool

When asked the degree to which the existing Thames Pool satisfies the needs of their household, 79% indicated that they were either "very satisfied" or,"satisfied" with the pool. Only. 8% were either "dissatisfied" or "very dissatisfied".

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Redevelooment of Thames Pool

The web-based survey found very strong interest in including a 50-metre lane DOOI tank in the redeveloped Thames Pool design (73% identified this as being “very important” to their household and 9% noted it as being “important”). Strong support was also received for enhances to change rooms and shadelsun shelters.

Conversely. the majority of households indicated that the following features were not important to their household: relaxation areallazy river; beach entry area; water slide; interactive play area for children; and special needs accessibility features. .

How importantwould the followlna amenities be to vourhousehold - at a new redeslgned Tharnes pool?

Swimming lanes - 50 metre

Enhancements to change moms

Shadel sun shelters

Swimming lanes - 25 metre

Diving board 1 metre

Diving board 3 metre

Special needs accessibility features

iteractive p\ay area for children (sprays, liiy pad, etc)

Waterslide

Beach entry Area

Relaxation Area I lazy river

This question utilized a graded 5-point scale. Strong opinions were expressed for every feature, as either ”5- very important” or “1 - not important at all” were the dominant responses.

Respondents were also encouraged to write-in any other necessary features - 27 people (7%) indicated that “deeper water” is required. Other open-ended comments represented 2% or fewer of ail respondents.

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APPENDIX F SUMMARY OF ONLINE SURVEY RESULTS

80% of survey respondents indicated that if the redeveloped Thames Pool contained most of the features that they feel are important, they would be very likely to use the pool more often.

Usaue of other Citv of London Outdoor Pools

47% of all respondents use Thames Pool and no other outdoor City pools.

Of the 50% that use other City outdoor pools, 64% use Thames Pool the most. The most frequently cited other DOOIS used by respondents (in order of number of mentions) include Canada Games Aquatic Centre (indoor), Gibbons Pool, Oakridge Pool, Southcrest Pool, and Stronach Pool. 20% of other pool users indicate that they use other pools because they are closer to their home, while a smaller number use them because of program offerings, forvariety, because of friends or social events, or because they are more'fun and child-friendly.

Ommended comments

Lastly, the survey included an open-ended query for respondents to provide any' additional information or clarification on their opinions. 62% chose to complete this question, with many providing extensive input. In order to better understand the nature of the comments, they have been grouped by common theme. The following list provides a synopsis of the open-ended comments: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

City needs a 50-metre pool - it is a unique asset in the area (117responses) The existing Thames Pool design is meeting needs - don't change it (50 responses) The pool should be designed to host competitions that will benefit London (45responses) There are enough spraylsplash pads in the area (44 responses) Need to maintain the diving well (35 responses) The pool needs to serve fitness swimmers (33 responses) Provide eight swimming lanes, not six (33 responses) A 50-metre pool is required to promote activity &athleticism in youth (25 responses) Deep water should be provided to accommodate organized groups (16 responses) Reduce the "amusement factor" (16 responses) Retain the wading pool (14 responses) Improve change rooms & amenities (73 responses) Design needs to promote use by families (12 responses) Support the leisure and 25m lane combination pool (10 responses) Several additional comments were received, with each totalling fewer than 10 combined mentions

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1950 to 1959 (48 to 57 yrs)

RespondentlHousehold Information

The survey collected basic demographic data on the respondent and their household. Below are the findings

1 4%

Resoondent vear of birth

1970 to 1979 (28 to 37 yrs)

Before 1940 (67 yrs and older) 1 0% 1940 to 1949 (58 to 67 vrd . 1 3%

~

26% 1980 to 1969 (1 8 to 27 vrs) 21% 1990 or later (under 18 yrs) 5%

No response 1 53 (of 386) I The average age of respondents was 37 years (year of birth 1971). respondents were between 18 and 47 years old.'

80% of

Household Composition by Age

*Source: 2006 Census Statistlcs Canada 97-551-XCB2006007

The composition of respondent households is younger than the population as a whole.

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APPENDIX F: SUMMARY OF ONLINE SURVEYRESULTS

NOM N 5Y N6E N5V N5Z

Location of Residence

3% Rural I County 2% Gariing, Huron Heights 2% Highland, White Oaks 2% Huron Heights, Airport 1% Hamilton Road, Glen Cairn

Medway, Masonville, Sunningdale 14% N6G

NOL 5 single

responses No response

1% Rural I County

1% Outside region

37 (of 388)

West London, Oakridge, Hyde Park, Fox Hollow 10% N6H Stoneybrook, Uplands,

Stoney Creek, Fanshawe 8% N 5X

[ Westmount, Byron, Rlver Bend. Woodhiill 1 6% 1 NGK

I NGJ I 5% I Sni Ithcret I I Central London (downtown core) [ 3% 1 N6B

East London (Old East, Argyle, Hamilton Road

Bostwick, Talbot, Lambeth, Sharon Creek

1%

1%

N5W

N6P

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APPENDIX G: SUMMARY OF STUDENT QUESTIONNAIRE RESULTS


I) Methodology

In December 2007, questionnaires were distributed to Public elementary schools in the vicinity of Thames Park. Despite several efforts, permission to survey Separate School students was not received. A covering letter was sent home with Grade 4 and 8 students from each school informing parents of the questionnaire, completion of which was voluntary.

In total, 170 responses were received from four public schools: Wortley Road PS; Tecumseh PS; Victoria PS; and Manor & Highland Park PS. Of this number, 72 were from Grade 4 students (age 9) and 98 were from Grade 8 students (age 13); ages are approximate.

School

2) Purpose

With children accounting for nearly two-thirds of all recreational swims at Thames Pool, consultation with this age group was sought. Specifically, the purpose of the questionnaire was to collect input from local children (ages 9 and 13). a demographic that is not typically represented directly in community projects such as this.

The two-page questionnaire contained four questions aimed at understanding the students swimming abilities (self-assessed), aquatic activity preferences, usage of Thames Pool, and aquatic featurelfacility preferences. The questionnaire layout was simple and effective - utilizing photos and graphics - and was designed to be self-administered with littie to no help from teachers.

The survey results are not intended to be statistically-significant or representative of all youth swimmers in the area, but rather they provide a sampling of opinion from local youth. .

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3) Results

Nearly two-thirds (64%) of students remember going swimming at the Thames Park Pool this past summer (see below). This suggests a strong familiarity with the facility. Grade 8 students were more likely to have used the pool than Grade 4 students.

Did you go swimming at the Thames Park Pool thls summer?

, I)" I L l , D

Don't Know I 25 I 15% Totafi 170 1100%

81% of students indicated that they "can swim I deep-water without help", while 13% require some degree of assistance or do not like swimming (see below). This suggests that the majority view their swimming abilities Yo be relatively strong and capable of utilizing a multi-depth pool.

lsomethina to help me float I usually slay In the shallower

I can swim In deep water, but I need a iifejacket or

i d where I can touch the botlom

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APPENDIX 0: SUMMARY OF STUDENT QUESTIONNAIRE RESULTS

What do you Ilke to do when you go swlmmlng?

Jumping ordldng Into the pool Offa dlung board

Jumplng Into the pool off the edge

Using water slldes

Using nutter boards or playing with pool toys

Taklng swlmmlng lessons

Runnlng through sptinklen or spray pads

Swimming laps

Walching other people Swim

0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80%

I "I enjoy (his a tot-

As the following chart and table illustrate, the majority of both Grade 4 and 8 students enjoy:

Jumping or diving into the pool off a diving board (76%) Jumping into the pool off the edge (72%) Using water slides (65%)

These three activities were much more popular than using flutter boards or playing with pool toys, swimming laps, taking swimming lessons, running through sprinklers or spray pads, or watching other people swim.

This suggests that there is interest in a pool design capable of accommodating recreational jumping andlor diving by this age group. There would also appear to be support for a water slide, particularly from younger children (Grade 4).

.. .

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The questionnaire asked students to prioritize amongst six pool features that could be provided at the redeveloped Thames Park pool. Of the features suggested, the greatest interest was expressed for a water slide (55% noted this as one of their top 2 priorities), followed by a diving board (47%) and lily pad walk (40%).

The water slide appealed more to Grade 4 students -'as did the lily pad walk - while Grade 8 students were more likely to rate a diving board as a priority.

I Which of the following features would you most like to see at the newThames ParkPooi?

Water Slide

Dlvlng Board

Llly Pad Walk

Beach EntryArea

Wet P l a y h a wllh Sprayers and Cllmbers

Swlmmlns Lanes

0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60%

Top 2 ~ ~

Which of the following features would you most Ilke to 688 at the new Thames Park Pool?

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APPENDIX A

CURRENT USE OF THE FACILITY

The facility is one of the top two outdoor pools for annual visitation of over 16,000 bathers and is essential for the delivery of aquatics summer programs in London. The programs are varied and the heated pool allows for earlier openings in the season than other outdoor pools. Thames pool is, upon occasion, used as an alternative facility for competitive clubs when indoor pools were unavailable. The wading pool is used daily by 25- 30 children visiting 1250 times per summer. They are generally 0- 6 years of age. Often younger family members play there while older siblings are in lessons. The shade trees are a welcome addition to that wading pool.

Thames Pool plays host to recreational and fitness length swimmers with approximately 35 hours of recreational swimming opportunities per week and another 17 hours of fitness swims.

Swimming lessons are a significant component of use at this facility. Approximately 115 classes are offered annually with 450 registrants. In summer 2006 evening lessons were initiated again and successfully added another 40 registrants. Hosting evening lessons assists working families to still fit valuable lessons into their children’s summer. The pool serves the surrounding area with 50% of the registrants but also families who choose to drive to this facility for its programs.

A wide number of camps use this pool as a part of their summer programming. This includes City day camps and playgrounds from South London, Kinsmen, and Lambeth, the Boys’ and Girls’ Club, Camp Trillium for cancer survivors, and tennis camps.

Youth Leadership development is a key component of programming at this pool. On average the City runs 9 courses here a summer with an average of 85 registrants. This important program provides candidates for higher level courses who become qualified to be lifeguardlinstructors.

Swimming, diving and water polo are the primary users of competitive functions at Thames Pool. This facility hosts the annual Hauch Invitational Swim meet, competitive swim meets and diving meets on occasion. Competitive use accounts for approximately 95 hours out of a total 975 hours the Thames Pool is open per summer.


Swim Length Swim* Lessons LAC

APPENDIX B CURRENT USE BY PROGRAM

13644 53.36% 1908 7.46% 4690 16.34% 2440 9.54%

July 23 - 28

137 swims

Leadershi 3.01% 5.56%

FCD Divin 1.17% School 0.74% Hauch Meet 200 0.78% Total 25569 100.00%

JuI. 30 - A u ~ . 4 AUg. 6 - 1 1 A~g13-18 AUg20-24

212 swims 133 swims 70 swims 66 swims

All values above are based upon a 4 year mean 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 excluding: 1.) Forest city diving (FCD) as this group only rented the pool in 2006; 2.) The Hauch meet average was provided by the London Aquatic Club (LAC) 3.) Length swimming -see calculation notes below

2007 Estimated Length I Fitness Swimming Use:

Length swimming: 1908 swims

Length swimming as a percentage of total use: 1 908 I24 880 = 7.46%

Calculation Notes:

Length swims are not specifically tracked and are included in the Drop-in and fitness category above (15 552 swims). City staff began tracking specific lane swimmers the week of July 23, 2007. To estimate the length swimming annual total the highest weekly tracked total (212 swims in a week) was multiplied by total number of open weeks to come to an estimate of length swims per season.

2007 Weekly Length Swim Breakdown:


APPENDIX C WHERE THAMES USERS COME FROM

Each push pin on the map below represents a Thames pool program user andlor a Thames pool pass holder:

2006 Registered Program Users and Pass Holders by Forward Sorting Area:

* 51.36% of all users reside in the same area (N6C) as Thames Pool


APPENDIX D I DESIGN OPTION 1

Programming Overview

Amenity Highlights: 50 m, 6 lanes, 4.5’ depth Diving well - I m boards (2), 3m board Wading pool

The 50m pool will attract users from ages 6 and older. Programs would include lane swimming, recreational swimming, swim lessons, swim meets and practices. We would be able to offer all the current complement of programs. A limitation would be that a tot dock (portable table placed in the pool) would be required for all swim lessons for children under the age of approximately six years as they would not be tall enough to touch the bottom in this depth of water. Tot docks are not an ideal teaching situation as children are contained in one small area and often stray off the edge.

The diving well with I m and 3m spring boards will be of interest to the approximately 8 - 16 year old group during recreational swims. Swim lessons would also use this area for learning to dive, treading water and some stroke work. The Aquatic Services dive program would use this area for their program.

The wading pool is used primarily by children from 0 - 6 years for recreational play.


APPENDIX D2 DESIGN OPTION 2


Amenity Highlights: 50 m, 6 lanes, 4.5’ depth in shallow, 11’ depth in deep Diving boards - 1 m and 3m spring boards Spray pad - Aquadeck and other spray features Water Slide

The 50m pool usage would remain unchanged except that the programs that used the well in Option 1 would now use the deep end of this pool. Tot docks would still be required for teaching lessons to younger children.

The spray pad in this option includes an aquadeck which includes small water slides and spray features. This would be of interest to children from 0 - 11 years of age. Children could use this feature during recreational swims as well as when siblings are involved in the lesson program as it is included within the pool enclosure unlike the wading pool.

The slide would be of interest to children and youth aged 6 to 16 years as well as some adults. It would be open during all recreational swims




Amenity Highlights: 25 m, 6 lanes, 4.5 depth in shallow end, 9’ depth in deep end Diving board - I m Lily pads Water Slide Spray pad Leisure pool with beach entry

The 25m pool would accommodate lane swimming (albeit in a shorter distance), recreational swimming, and swim lessons for the older children, swim meets and practices and diving. The swim lessons for the younger children (4 months to 5 years) would be held in the leisure with beach entry pool as the depth slopes gradually making it easier to find a suitable depth for teaching. The spray pad feature in this option has fewer features but would still be available for the same age groups and programs. The slide would be the same as in Option 2.




Amenity Highlights: 50 m, 8 lanes, 4.5’ depth in shallow end, 11’ depth in deep end Diving board - I m and 3m Lily pads Water Slide Spray pad Leisure pool with beach entry

The 50m pool will attract users from ages 6 and older. Programs would include lane swimming, recreational swimming, swim lessons, swim meets and practices. We would be able to offer all the current complement of programs. The beach area provides a walk in area and shallow area for small children to be taught in a depth appropriate for their size. The beach is also a grade that makes it an accessible access point for participants.

The diving well with I m and 3m spring boards will be of interest to the approximately 8 - 16 year old group during recreational swims. Swim lessons would also use this area for learning to dive, treading water and some stroke work. The Aquatic Services dive program would use this area for their program.

The spray pad in this option includes an aquadeck which includes small water slides and spray features. This would be of interest to children from 0 - 11 years of age. Children could use this feature during recreational swims as well as when siblings are involved in the lesson program as it is included within the pool enclosure unlike the wading pool.

The slide would be of interest to children and youth aged 6 to 16 years as well as some adults. It would be open during all recreational swims.


770

APPENDIX E PREDICTED UTILIZATION CHANGE BY OPTION AND CATEGORY

(Measured in swims per season)

770 770

Utilization I Category

RECREATIONAL

LENGTH SWIMMING

LEARN TO SWIM LESSONS

LEADERSHIP

LESSONS

INTRO COMPETITIVE TEAMS

COMPETITIVE DIVING

COMPETITIVE SWIMMING I COMPETITIVE MEETS

SCHOOL BOARD 1 USE

TOTAL

I Option ' I Option2 {xisting les ign

13644 1 12280 I 16372

1908 I 1908 1 1908

4690 1 3752 I 4221

2 440 2 440 2 440

200 I 180 1 180

25 569 23 277 27 876

- 1 JI 9.0% 1 "9.0%

Option 3

24 559

1 526

5 159

770

1428

330

1220

100

283

35 375

(F. 38.4 %

Option 4

24 559

1908

5 628

770

1 428

330

2 684

400

283

37 990

4' 48.6%

Decrease in use in Option 1 is due to a reduced lane composition of six wider lanes versus the current narrower 8 lane configuration and the increase in pool depth. Estimates on future use are based on current participation and assumptions made on best information available.


APPENDIX F EXPECTED CHANGE IN UTILIZATION WITH JUSTIFICATION

USER GROUP

lECREATlONAL SWIMS

'IT SWIM

-ESSONS

?.O.L.CLUBS

% OF USE

i3.36% ___

- 7.46%

__ I 8.34%

5.58%

OPTION I

Slight I

gepth of pool will make it more I'iffcult and !incomfortable for young children to !ouch the bottom.

Decrease of 10% from existing

No change

Lanes fewer but wider. lane swimming currently does not conflict with other programming and will continue in the same fashion.

Moderate -1 Depth of pool will make it more difficult and uncomfortable for young children to touch the bottom. Will have to rely on "Tot Docks" for our lesson program rather than the pool bottom.


No change

OPTION 2

Moderate f

Camilies wold swim together. Slide and features would attract oatrons. Parents would have to swim with their children. They would not be able to wade or stand clue to depth.

Increase of 20% from existing

No change

lanes fewer but wider. Lane swimming currently does not conflict with other programming and will continue in the same fashion.

Slight

No increase in pool space for lesson programming. Depth of pool will make it more difficult and uncomfortable for young children to touch the bottom. will have to rely on "Tot Docks" for our lesson program rather than the pool bottom.


No change

~

OPTION 3

Considerable t

Camilies could swim together. Slide and Features would sttract patrons. Parents would ?of have to swim with their children. They would be able to wade or stand due to fepth.

Increase of 80% from existing - conservative stimate given 104% increase at Stronach

renovation to leisure concept pool Moderate 1

Attraction of 50m pool would be lost.

DO01 post


Slight t No increase in pool space for lesson programming. Some features would help with lessons but ultimately pool space limiting.

Increase of 10% from existing No change

OPTION 4

Considerable t

=amilies could swim together. Slide and 'eatures would sttractpatrons Darents would lot have to swim with their :hildren. They would be able '0 wade or stand due to Jepth.

Increase of 90% from ?xisting - mnservative Sstimate given 104% increase st Stronach >OOl post ?novation to bisure concept ?OOl

No change

Moderate t More pool space allows for more lesson programming. Attraction of pool, features would lead to increase in lesson registration

Increase of 20% from existing No change


ONDON ,QUATIC CLUB 'RACTICE

ONDON ,QUATIC :LUB- MEETS

'OREST CITY IIVING

:.O.L. YOUTH .EADERSHIP

SCHOOLS

3.34%

__ 0.78%

- 1.17%

__ 3.01%

0.74%

No change Presently use lanes I -4 for practice. Would still be able to use 4 lanes.

Slight 1 Lanes would be wider. Aquatic Club could still hold Hauch as a "fun" meet as it is currently delivered.


Slight t New boards would be incentive to practice at Thames. General trend in Canada towards outdoor meets means outdoor more appealing

lncrease of 10% from existing

No change

No change

No change 'resenfly use anes I -4 for Jractice. Would still be able to use 4 lanes.

Slight 1 lanes would be

Zlub could still $old Hauch as a %n" meet as it is wrently delivered.

Nider. Aquatic

%crease of 10% Porn existing

Slight f Vew boards would Se an incentive to wactice at Thames. General trend in Canada towards outdoor meets means outdoor more appealing


No change

Moderate t

Features would affract schools to rent Thames at end ofyear. It would also make it easier to find volunteers to chaperone children.


Moderate J

?5 m pool Nould be less 3ppealing for mctice than a 50 m pool

3ecrease of 50% from ?xisting

Moderate J. lanes would 5e wider. 4quatic Club :ould still hold Yauch as a 'fun"meet as it 's currently. It Nould be less 3ppealing as a 25 m meet.

3ecrease of 50% from sxisting

Slight Vew boards NOUld be an hcentive to wactice at Thames. General trend h Canada towards outdoor meets means outdoor more appealing


No change

Considerable P

Features would affract schools to reni Thames at end of year. It would also make it easier to find volunteers to chaperone


Slight 'ool would :omply with VNA standards vhich would mcourage Yubs to Jractice there

ncrease of IO% from ?xisting

Considerable t %o/ would :omply with W A standards Nhich would mcourage :ompetitive neets.

'ncrease of 100% from 3xisting

Slight t Vew boards NOUld be an ncentive to mctice at Thames. Seneral trend n Canada 'owards Jutdoor meets veans outdoor vore appealing

Increase of 10% from existing

No change

Considerable T

Features would affract schools to rent Thames at end of year. It would also make it easier to find volunteers to chaDerone

lncrease of 50% frOm existing


OPTION 1

APPENDIX G EXPECTED CHANGE IN OPERATIONS COST WITH JUSTIFICATION

OPTION 2 OPTION 3 OPERATING COST

TOTAL

WATER VOLUME OF 506,271 US

Gallons

STAFFING (CURRENTLY

STAFF)

(DIRECTLY

13 LIFEGUARD

HEATING COST

PROPORTIONATE TO TOTAL WATER VOLUME)

WATER SPRAY FEATURE

344,408 US 225,200 US Gallons Gallons

LOCAL 107 OPERATION COSTS

Very similar to current water volume

No Change

CHARGES ASSOCIATED WITH TSSA

RELATED TO THE WATER SLIDE)

(DIRECTLY

No Change No Change

No Change

does not include a waterslide

No Change 1 Moderate 1 I Considerable 1

Moderate t Moderate t contains a contains a waterslide waterslide

No Change I Moderate 1 I Considerable 1

Slight T extensive spray features

OPTION 4

Slight 1 440,875 US Gallons

Moderate t Increase of 3 staff

Slight 1

Considerable t extensive spray features

Moderate t extensive spray features and size of the facilify

Moderate t contains a waterslide


APPENDIX H THAMES POOL RENOVATION CAPITAL COSTS

I Thames Pool Renovation -SUMMARY OF OPTION COSTS

CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT

FEES EXPENDED TO

SURVEY,

ARCHAEOLOGICAL

PERMIT FEES

CONSTRUCTION RELOCATE GEOTECHNICAL,

DIAMOND

AND TOTAL

DES'GN FEES

DESIGN BATH HOUSE OF POOL AND OPTION RENOVATIONS OTHER '

FEATURES

" Relocation of ball diamond could Impact recently naturalized areas of the park and community resistance lo its relocation can be anticipated

BREAKOUT COSTS ADDITIONAL COSTS I

ADD THIS COST TO CONSTRUCTION OF POOL

FEATURES INCLUDED IN CONSTRUCTION OF POOL AND OTHER FEATURES COST

I ANDOTHERFEATURES 1

DESIGN OPTION

1

3

4

SLIDE INCLUDING STAIR TOWER

AND MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT

NIA

230,000

DIVING WELL

iNCLUDlNG TANK,

RELATED CONTROLS SURROUNDING

ADD TWO SWIMMING TOTAL ALL-IN IANES, INCLUDESTANK COST EXPANSION AND EXTRA

EXCAVATING, TILING AND GUTTER

*cost of diving tower and separate well are not recommended for consideration - t o further deepen the deep end to accommodate a 10 m tower is $70,000 -10 m platform and tower complex (cost to be determined working estimate $500,000)


APPENDIX I SUPPORTING INFORMATION AND RESEARCH

Canadian Fitness and Lifestyle Research Institute (2005) Parents indicated

34% of their children prefer unorganized activities 14% of their children prefer organized activities 49% indicated their children like both equally

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World Health Organization (2006): Even if most sports facilities, built for more or less specialized activities and used by the fitter and more active part of the population, are theoretically available to everyone, it is clear that they are not attractive to people who are less active .It is stili the case in most countries that specialized and expensive sports facilities are given priority in the allocation of economic resources intended to increase and promote physical activity in general. in our growing awareness of the need to raise levels of physical activity, especially among less active groups, It now seems necessary to achieve a better balance In plannlng and investing in (local) infrastructure for promoting low threshold unorganized physlcal activity and recreational sports versus more specialized organized sport. More resources have to be used to provide the less active groups with adapted and appropriate infrastructure

But in recent years there has been growing recognition that organized sport, while a vital part of the picture, makes a relatively small contribution to levels of physical activity among the general population - less than 10% of the total in many countries.

Recommendation: Adequate support should be given to local governments in their work to create motivating local environments and infrastructure to reach ail groups. httD://www.euro.who.int/Docurnent/NUT/lnstanbui conf edocl O.udf

Parks and Recreation Ontario - Together with Youth Initiative (1999 -still used today) Together with Youth is designed for those who are responsible for or involved with providing services and programs for youth:

What Works? - A IO-Point CHECKLIST 1. YOUTH-LED SERVICES A given!

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.

UNSTRUCTURED PROGRAMS Many youth prefer non-traditional, nontompetitive activities with fewer rules and regulations.

FUN, SOCIAL OPPORTUNITIES Youth want to be part of a group, to share, lead and follow, feel like they belong.

PLACE TO HANG OUTIDROP-IN CENTRE The importance of a place to hang out, better yet a drop-in centre, cannot be over-emphasized.

TRAINED YOUTH LEADERS As well as being trained in youth issues, it is important that youth leaders come from the community they are serving and have a positive attitude toward youth.

LOW COST/NO COST The cost of registration fees, equipment or travel expenses can limi youth participation.

EASY ACCESS and WELL PROMOTED Make it easy for youth to get to you - avoid locations requiring complicated transit or long distances, and make sure youth and their families kno\n about your programs and services!

A SAFE, NON-THREATENING ENVIRONMENT Steps should be taken to ensure youth feel Saf€ coming to your location (e.9. lighted pathways and entrance) and comfortable in thc surroundings, especially for females and minority groups.

A MlXTURE OF YOUTH Services should attract males and females from diverse backgrounds including under-served youth.

REGULAR EVALUATION Use both informal feedback and more organized surveys and focu: groups to check out how your program is being received.

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APPENDIX J

CITY OF LONDON POPULATION BY AGE COHORT CHARTS AND DATA TO SUPPORT THAMES POOL RECOMMENDATIONS

The following charts and data present actual and projected population by age cohort for the City of London for 2006 and 2031. The actual population figures are 2006 Census population counts[’]. The forecasted population figures are the population projection figures produced by Clayton Research for the City of London and endorsed by City Council in the summer of 2007.

Note that the age cohorts that are presented are grouped as follows: 1. 0 to 4 2. 5 to 9 3. I O to 14 4. 15 to 19 5. 20 to 54 6. 55 +

The age groups presented reflect as closely as possible the age categories used by the City of London in recreation programming. These age categories are: 3 to 5; 5 to 12; 13 to 17; 18+; and 55+.

The charts and data below reflect the following general population trends: - *

- The total child and youth population (0 to 19) will increase slightly between now and 2031; As a proportion of the total population, the 5 to 19 population will decrease slightly from 19% of the population in 2006 to 15% or 16% in 2031; The adult and older adult population increase in absolute numbers:

o As a proportion of the total population, the 20 to 54 age category will decrease from 51% in 2006 to 46% or 47% in 2031;

o The 55+ population will increase from 25% of the population to 33% by 2031.

Pigure 1: Population by Age Group, 2006 (actuaI) and 2031 (projected)

250,000 1 I 200,000

c D .- 150,000 E

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50,000

0 0 t o 4 5 t o 9 1Oto14 15 to19 20to54 55+

Age Group

Figure 2: Age Group as a Proportion of Total Population, 2006 (actuaIj

The figures presented are preliminary estimates and may change as a result of Statistics Canada’s Overcoverage Study. The results of this study will be available in the Fall of 2008.


0-4 5 t 0 9

to 14 6%

5-1 9 7%

20to.54 51 %

Figure 1: Age Group as a Proportion of Total Population, 2031 (projected)

20 to 54 46% io 47%

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APPENDIX K FOREST CITY DIVING CLUB SUBMISSION

From: Bernie Olanski Sent: Friday, December 21,2007 1:02 PM To: Winston, John Subject Thames Pool Redevelopment

Good afternoon John,

Further to our telephone conversation earlier this week, I am pleased to provide some information in support of our desire to include a complete diving complex which meets FINA's facility standards in any redevelopment of the Thames Pool.

As discussed, we have the full support of our national governing body, Diving Plongeon Canada, and are assured that the inclusion of a proper diving complex will yield enormous benefits and we see this as amazing opportunity which should be exploited by the City of London.

In order to obtain the following information, I have talked with Mitch Geller (Chief Technical Officer with Diving Plongeon Canada & recently appointed to Podium Canada), Linda Cuthbert (Past President of Diving Plongeon Canada & Aquatic Federation of Canada) and with Keith Richardson (Nationwide Aquatics, Distributor of Myrtha Pools).

Backaround Considerations

1) London, Ontario has one of the best summer seasons in all of Canada and as such is an ideal location for a complete outdoor diving complex.

2) If built in London, Ontario in accordance with FlNA standards, an outdoor diving complex would be the only one in Ontario and it would be one of only two outdoor facilities in all of Canada which would be suitable for hosting national and international outdoor competitions. The other is the Parc Jean Drapeau in Montreal built by Myrtha Pools.

3) Because diving is a summer sport and in most countries is considered an outdoor sport, Diving Plongeon Canada has expressed its interest in continuing the trend of hosting more Canadian competitions outdoors. (The Canadian Jr. and Sr. Nationals were combined and hosted at Parc Jean Drapeau in Montreal and the Jr. Pan Am Games were hosted outdoors in Puerto Rico in 2007).

4) Our local diving club, The Forest City Diving Club, was ranked in the top 10 clubs in all of Canada at both the Jr. Nationals and the Sr. National championships in 2007. Our organization has a very good rapport with our national governing body, Diving Plongeon Canada, and the national office has expressed confidence in our organization and our ability to host top level events. As such, Diving Plongeon Canada has assured us that they would support a bid by our local club to host a number of national and international events such as the Jr. National Championships, the Summer Sr. National Championships, the World Jr. Championships, the Jr. Pan Am Games and some proposed new international events such as a Canada-Mexico Challenge.

5) It is anticipated that with a proper outdoor diving facility, we could reasonably expect to host a high level event every year and a major national or international competition at least every 2nd year - bringing in competitors and new tourism dollars to London from across Canada, the United States and internationally.

6) A proper outdoor facility would be an ideal venue for a National Training Centre.

7) The national and international hosting opportunities and national training centre possibilities would create opportunities not only for new sport tourism dollars for London, but also opportunities for such things as naming rights, television revenues and generally increased exposure for our city on a national and international stage.

8) The inclusion of a proper diving complex would not mean that the Thames Pool would not be available as a recreational facility - rather, it would enhance its appeal as a true multi-purpose venue - which could maximize use from swimming diapers to Olympic podium and back to masters swimming programs in a beautiful natural setting.


9) We understand that although the City of London’s initial proposal was for more of a water park theme, there has been significant push-back resulting in public consultations. The public consultations appear to have been overwhelmingly in favour of retaining a 50M pool.

10) We understand that the inclusion of a diving well (5M deep) would increase the usefulness of the facility by enabling it to be used for synchronized swimming and waterpolo as well.

Requirements & Specifications

In order to meet FlNA requirements and be considered as a preferred venue for hosting national and international competitions, we would require the following as a minimum:

2 x I-Metre springboards

2 x 3-Metre springboards

1 x 3-Metre platform (which could be combined on the same stand as the 2 3-Metre springboards)

1 x Tower complex including 5-Metre, 7.5-Metre & IO-Metre diving platforms

1 x Bubbler system below towers, sprayers under springboards &warm showers under the tower

Complete specifications are set out in FINA’s rules which are available on the internet at http://www.fina.orq/ruleslenqlish/facilities.~h~, and for convenience I have reproduced them below.

Pricina

There are several options.

1) A separate dive well -this would be the most expensive - for a 25M x 25M tank with the necessary springboards, towers and accessories, the cost would be approximately $1,500,000.

2) An L-Shaped dive well addition -assuming that a 50-Metre swimming pool was built, there would be an option of adding a diving well in an L-shape at one end of the 50-Metre pool. This would result is substantial savings by eliminating duplication of plumbing and mechanical costs. To add a 25M x 25M x 5M(depth) pool, the cost is estimated to be approximately $1,000,000.

3) Again, assuming the existence of a 50-metre pool, there is a third and even more economical option of adding the diving complex to one end of the 50M pool (without the L-shaped addition). The estimated cost of adding the complete diving complex at the end of the 50M pool (increasing the depth to 5M, adding the springboards, towers, bubbler system, sprinklers and shower) would be $500,000 - $600,000.

Options 1 and 2 are the most preferable, because they would eliminate any quarrelling among user groups for preferred programming times. Obviously, diving cannot take place while there are any swimmers, synchronized swimming or waterpolo are in the dive well.

At the same time, we recognize that this will be an outdoor facility and that it will be used primarily in the summer months when children are not in school. This means that there are more daylight hours which could be shared by the various user groups and competitive teams -which generally compete for a limited number of before and after school hours at the Canada Games Aquatic Centre. Accordingly, as a compromise we could live with option 3.

An excerpt of the FlNA rules regarding Diving Facilities is reproduced below.

I trust this is of some assistance to you and, if there is anything else I can do to assist, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Regards, The Forest City Divlng Club ... evolution of champions.

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