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Public Comment No. 1-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 2.3.4 ] 2.3.4 ASTM Publications. ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959, www.astm.org. ASTM B 117, Standard Practice for Operating Salt Spray (Fog) Apparatus, 2011. ASTM B 152/B 152M, Standard Specification for Copper Sheet, Strip, Plate, and Rolled Bar, 2013. ASTM D 1424, Standard Test Method for the Tear Resistance of Woven Fabrics by Falling Pendulum (Elmendorf-Type) Apparatus, 2013. ASTM D 1683, Standard Test Method for Failure in Sewn Seams of Woven Fabrics, 2011. ASTM D 1776, Standard Practice for Conditioning Textiles for Testing, 2009. ASTM D 3787, Standard Test Method for Bursting Strength of Textiles — Constant-Rate-of-Traverse (CRT) Ball Burst Test, 2011. ASTM D 4966, Standard Test Method for Abrasion Resistance of Textile Fabrics (Martindale Abrasion Tester Method), 2013. ASTM D 6413, Standard Test Method for Flame Resistance of Textiles (Vertical Test), 2013. ASTM D 6193, Standard Practice for Seams and Stitches ASTM E 809, Standard Test Method for Measuring Photometric Characteristics of Retroreflectors, 2013. ASTM E 810, Standard Test Method for Coefficient of Retroreflection of Retroreflective Sheeting Utilizing the Coplanar Geometry, 2013. ASTM F 1060, Standard Test Method for Thermal Protective Performance of Materials for Protective Clothing for Hot Surface Contact, 2008. ASTM F 1342, Standard Test Method for Protective Clothing Material Resistance to Puncture, 2013 E1. ASTM F 1414, Standard Test Method for Measurement of Cut Resistance to Chain Saw in Lower Body (Legs) Protective Clothing, 2013. ASTM F 1790, Standard Test Method for Measuring Cut Resistance of Materials Used in Protective Clothing, 2005. ASTM F 1868, Standard Test Method for Thermal and Evaporative Resistance of Clothing Materials Using a Sweating Hot Plate, 2013. ASTM F 1897, Standard Specification for Leg Protection for Chain Saw Users, 2008. ASTM F 1939, Standard Test Method for Radiant Heat Resistance of Flame Resistant Clothing Materials with Continuous Heating, 2008. ASTM F 2010, Standard Test Method for Evaluation of Glove Effects on Wearer Hand Dexterity Using Modified Pegboard Test, 2010. ASTM F 2894, Standard Test Method for Evaluation of Materials, Protective Clothing and Equipment for Heat Resistance Using a Hot Air Circulating Oven, 2012b. ASTM F 2913, Standard Test Method for Measuring the Coefficient of Friction for Evaluation of Slip Performance of Footwear and Test Surfaces/Flooring Using a Whole Shoe Tester, 2011. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment This standard was formerly the Federal Standard 751 for Stitches and Seams before being transitioned into an ASTM Standard in 1995. It provides a ready reference to better understand how any sewn textile product, garment, or PPE is constructed or needs to be repaired. In addition to complete descriptions and drawings of every type of stitch formation (sewing thread configurations) there are line drawings that show the wide range of seam types (fabric configurations) that can be made so that two or more planar structures can be joined together. National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPara... 1 of 98 2/3/2015 10:49 AM

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Public Comment No. 1-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 2.3.4 ]

2.3.4 ASTM Publications.

ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959,www.astm.org.

ASTM B 117, Standard Practice for Operating Salt Spray (Fog) Apparatus, 2011.

ASTM B 152/B 152M, Standard Specification for Copper Sheet, Strip, Plate, and Rolled Bar, 2013.

ASTM D 1424, Standard Test Method for the Tear Resistance of Woven Fabrics by Falling Pendulum(Elmendorf-Type) Apparatus, 2013.

ASTM D 1683, Standard Test Method for Failure in Sewn Seams of Woven Fabrics, 2011.

ASTM D 1776, Standard Practice for Conditioning Textiles for Testing, 2009.

ASTM D 3787, Standard Test Method for Bursting Strength of Textiles — Constant-Rate-of-Traverse (CRT)Ball Burst Test, 2011.

ASTM D 4966, Standard Test Method for Abrasion Resistance of Textile Fabrics (Martindale AbrasionTester Method), 2013.

ASTM D 6413, Standard Test Method for Flame Resistance of Textiles (Vertical Test), 2013.

ASTM D 6193, Standard Practice for Seams and Stitches

ASTM E 809, Standard Test Method for Measuring Photometric Characteristics of Retroreflectors, 2013.

ASTM E 810, Standard Test Method for Coefficient of Retroreflection of Retroreflective Sheeting Utilizingthe Coplanar Geometry, 2013.

ASTM F 1060, Standard Test Method for Thermal Protective Performance of Materials for ProtectiveClothing for Hot Surface Contact, 2008.

ASTM F 1342, Standard Test Method for Protective Clothing Material Resistance to Puncture, 2013 E1.

ASTM F 1414, Standard Test Method for Measurement of Cut Resistance to Chain Saw in Lower Body(Legs) Protective Clothing, 2013.

ASTM F 1790, Standard Test Method for Measuring Cut Resistance of Materials Used in ProtectiveClothing, 2005.

ASTM F 1868, Standard Test Method for Thermal and Evaporative Resistance of Clothing Materials Usinga Sweating Hot Plate, 2013.

ASTM F 1897, Standard Specification for Leg Protection for Chain Saw Users, 2008.

ASTM F 1939, Standard Test Method for Radiant Heat Resistance of Flame Resistant Clothing Materialswith Continuous Heating, 2008.

ASTM F 2010, Standard Test Method for Evaluation of Glove Effects on Wearer Hand Dexterity UsingModified Pegboard Test, 2010.

ASTM F 2894, Standard Test Method for Evaluation of Materials, Protective Clothing and Equipment forHeat Resistance Using a Hot Air Circulating Oven, 2012b.

ASTM F 2913, Standard Test Method for Measuring the Coefficient of Friction for Evaluation of SlipPerformance of Footwear and Test Surfaces/Flooring Using a Whole Shoe Tester, 2011.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

This standard was formerly the Federal Standard 751 for Stitches and Seams before being transitioned into an ASTM Standard in 1995. It provides a ready reference to better understand how any sewn textile product, garment, or PPE is constructed or needs to be repaired. In addition to complete descriptions and drawings of every type of stitch formation (sewing thread configurations) there are line drawings that show the wide range of seam types (fabric configurations) that can be made so that two or more planar structures can be joined together.

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The standard also has drawings and descriptions of bartacks, buttonholes, and zig-zag stitches.

The standard also includes vocabulary that identifies terms, such as overedged seam, lapped seams, lapped-felled seams, chainstitch, safetystitch, lockstitch, and many more. This standard can provide useful reference information for all parties that purchase, manufacture, clean and maintain, or inspect Wildland firefighting PPE.

The specific cross references to this standards will be shown later in the standard.

Related Item

First Revision No. 2-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 2.3.4]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Company, Inc.

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Sep 24 11:06:41 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected but see related SR

Resolution: See SR-16-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: The TC is updating the references in Chapter 2.

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Public Comment No. 2-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 2.3.4 ]

2.3.4 ASTM Publications.

ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959,www.astm.org.

ASTM B 117, Standard Practice for Operating Salt Spray (Fog) Apparatus, 2011.

ASTM B 152/B 152M, Standard Specification for Copper Sheet, Strip, Plate, and Rolled Bar, 2013.

ASTM D 1424, Standard Test Method for the Tear Resistance of Woven Fabrics by Falling Pendulum(Elmendorf-Type) Apparatus, 2013.

ASTM D 1683, Standard Test Method for Failure in Sewn Seams of Woven Fabrics, 2011.

ASTM D 1776, Standard Practice for Conditioning Textiles for Testing, 2009.

ASTM D 3787, Standard Test Method for Bursting Strength of Textiles — Constant-Rate-of-Traverse (CRT)Ball Burst Test, 2011.

ASTM D 4966, Standard Test Method for Abrasion Resistance of Textile Fabrics (Martindale AbrasionTester Method), 2013.

ASTM D 6413, Standard Test Method for Flame Resistance of Textiles (Vertical Test), 2013.

ASTM D 7138, Standard Test Method to Determine Melt Temperature of Synthetic Fibers

ASTM E 809, Standard Test Method for Measuring Photometric Characteristics of Retroreflectors, 2013.

ASTM E 810, Standard Test Method for Coefficient of Retroreflection of Retroreflective Sheeting Utilizingthe Coplanar Geometry, 2013.

ASTM F 1060, Standard Test Method for Thermal Protective Performance of Materials for ProtectiveClothing for Hot Surface Contact, 2008.

ASTM F 1342, Standard Test Method for Protective Clothing Material Resistance to Puncture, 2013 E1.

ASTM F 1414, Standard Test Method for Measurement of Cut Resistance to Chain Saw in Lower Body(Legs) Protective Clothing, 2013.

ASTM F 1790, Standard Test Method for Measuring Cut Resistance of Materials Used in ProtectiveClothing, 2005.

ASTM F 1868, Standard Test Method for Thermal and Evaporative Resistance of Clothing Materials Usinga Sweating Hot Plate, 2013.

ASTM F 1897, Standard Specification for Leg Protection for Chain Saw Users, 2008.

ASTM F 1939, Standard Test Method for Radiant Heat Resistance of Flame Resistant Clothing Materialswith Continuous Heating, 2008.

ASTM F 2010, Standard Test Method for Evaluation of Glove Effects on Wearer Hand Dexterity UsingModified Pegboard Test, 2010.

ASTM F 2894, Standard Test Method for Evaluation of Materials, Protective Clothing and Equipment forHeat Resistance Using a Hot Air Circulating Oven, 2012b.

ASTM F 2913, Standard Test Method for Measuring the Coefficient of Friction for Evaluation of SlipPerformance of Footwear and Test Surfaces/Flooring Using a Whole Shoe Tester, 2011.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

A) This is the ASTM Standard developed when Federal Standard 191A, Test Method 1534 was transitioned in 2005. The standard allows for the use of two instruments to determine the temperature at which a solid becomes a liquid. Test Method I uses a Differential Scanning Calorimetry (DSC) instrument. Test Method II uses the same instrument as used in the original Federal Standard.

The specific cross reference will be shown later in the standard.

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B) The Federal Standard and Test Method in Section 8.9 were discontinued in 2005. The recommended change to Section 2.3.4 would support the deletion of section 8.9.

Related Item

First Revision No. 2-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 2.3.4]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Sep 24 11:31:17 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR #16 updating the references in Chapter 2.

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Public Comment No. 20-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 2.3.8 ]

2.3.8 U.S. Government Publications – Military Specifications and Commercial Item Descriptions.

Document Automation and Production Service (DAPS), Building 4/D, 700 Robbins Avenue, Philadelphia,PA 19111-5094, http://assist.daps.dla.mil/online/start/.

Commercial Item Description A-A-55126B, Fastener Tape, Hook and Loop, Synthetic, 7 September 2006.

Commercial Item Description, A-A-55220, Para-aramid, Continous Filament

Commercial Item Description A-A- 55634A, Zippers (Fasteners, Slide Interlocking), 23 March 2004.

Military Specification MIL-DTL-10884H, Fastener, Snap, 20 July 2005.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Starting in the 1990's, the U.S. Government transitioned from military specifications to CID's (performance based documents) so that purchases could made from commercial inventories. These inventories would be obligated to meet consensus performance standards that had been agreed to by industry, the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA), and Natick R&D Center.

Every CID identifies multiple performance requirements that require using different types of measurements. While CID, A-A-55220 measures; 1) break strength (D204), 2) yardage (D1907), 3) elongation (D204), 4) yarn size (D204), and 5) melting (D7138), the only test currently required for NFPA 1977 is the melting test that uses D7138.

Related Item

First Revision No. 1-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 2.3.3]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 14:34:27 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Accepted

Resolution: SR-27-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: The Technical Committee is adding documents to the references in Chapter 2 that are includedelsewhere in the standard.

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Public Comment No. 21-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 2.3.8 ]

2.3.8 U.S. Government Publications – Military Specifications and Commercial Item Descriptions.

Document Automation and Production Service (DAPS), Building 4/D, 700 Robbins Avenue, Philadelphia,PA 19111-5094, http://assist.daps.dla.mil/online/start/.

Commercial Item Description A-A-55126B, Fastener Tape, Hook and Loop, Synthetic, 7 September 2006.

Commercial Item Description A-A-55195, Para-Aramid, Spun Thread, Type I Normal Performance, Type IIHigh Performance

Commercial Item Description A-A- 55634A, Zippers (Fasteners, Slide Interlocking), 23 March 2004.

Military Specification MIL-DTL-10884H, Fastener, Snap, 20 July 2005.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Starting in the 1990's, the U.S. Government transitioned from military specifications to CID's (performance based documents) so that purchases could be made from commercial inventories. These inventories would be obligated to meet consensus performance standards that had been agreed to by industry, the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA), and Natick R&D Center.

Every CID identifies multiple performance requirements that require using different types of measurements. While CID, A-A-55195 measures: 1) break strength (D204), 2) yardage (D1907), 3) elongation (D204), 4 yarn size (D204) and 5) melting (D7138), the only test currently required for NFPA 1977 is the melting test that uses D7138.

The protective driver's glove, that is styled similar to the military combat glove, uses tex size 40 para-aramid sewing thread that demonstrates greater than 9 lbf (40N) break strength. This break strength enables the driver of heavy equipment to have good tactility to better control the vehicle; the protective driver's gloves will also demonstrate good wear and abrasion resistance, similar to how they served the military in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Related Item

First Revision No. 1-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 2.3.3]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 14:40:31 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR #27.

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Public Comment No. 22-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 2.3.8 ]

2.3.8 U.S. Government Publications – Military Specifications and Commercial Item Descriptions.

Document Automation and Production Service (DAPS), Building 4/D, 700 Robbins Avenue, Philadelphia,PA 19111-5094, http://assist.daps.dla.mil/online/start/.

Commercial Item Description A-A-55126B, Fastener Tape, Hook and Loop, Synthetic, 7 September 2006.

Commercial Item Description A-A-55217, Aramid, Spun Thread, Type I Normal Performance, Type II HighPerformance

Commercial Item Description A-A- 55634A, Zippers (Fasteners, Slide Interlocking), 23 March 2004.

Military Specification MIL-DTL-10884H, Fastener, Snap, 20 July 2005.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Starting in the 1990's, the U.S. Government transitioned from military specifications to CID's (performance based documents) so that purchases could be made from commercial inventories. These inventories would be obligated to meet consensus performance standards that had been agreed to by industry, the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA), and Natick R&D center.

Every CID identifies multiple performance requirements that require using different types of measurements. While CID, A-A-55217 uses many different ASTM test methods to measure: 1) break strength (D204), 2) yardage (1907), 3) elongation (D204), 4) yarn size (D204) and 5) melting (D7138), the only test currently required for NFPA 1977 is melting test that uses D7138.

This is inconsistent when the fabrics being sewn together are tested for both break strength and exposure to high heat. The data this CID contains can be used with data from D6193, Standard Practice for Seam and Stitches, to estimate how the major seam strength of 70 lbf (310N) and the minor seam strength of 50 lbf (220N) can be achieved with certain tex sizes of sewing thread, using specific seam configurations, and a certain number of stitches per inch.

Related Item

First Revision No. 1-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 2.3.3]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 14:50:03 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR #27.

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Public Comment No. 3-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 6.1.7 ]

6.1.7

All thread used to manufacture garments shall be made of inherently flame-resistant fiber. All sewingthread used shall comply with A-A-55217, Type I Normal Performance or Type II High Performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.8

Related Item

First Revision No. 22-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 6.1.7]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Sep 24 14:22:42 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Unknown Reason

Resolution: See SR #20.

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Public Comment No. 7-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 6.2.13 ]

6.2.13

All thread used to manufacture helmets shall be made of inherently flame-resistant fiber. All sewing threadused to construct textile elements of a helmet shall comply with A-A-55217, Type I Normal Performance orType II High Performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.8

Related Item

First Revision No. 22-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 6.1.7]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 13:40:32 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Unknown Reason

Resolution: See SR #21.

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Public Comment No. 23-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 6.3.3.3 ]

6.3.3.3

Where present, the portion of the glove that extends from 25 mm (1 in.) beyond the wrist crease up to theend of the entire glove shall be considered the glove interface component and shall meet the gloveinterface component requirements in Section 7. 4 3 .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 7.3/

Related Item

First Revision No. 23-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 6.3]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 09:52:39 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Accepted

Resolution: SR-1-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 7.3.

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Public Comment No. 8-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 6.3.4 ]

6.3.4

All thread used to manufacture protective work gloves shall be made of inherently flame-resistant fiber. Allthread used to manufacture protective work gloves shall comply with A-A-55217, Type II HighPerformance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.8, new sections added

Related Item

First Revision No. 23-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 6.3]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 13:49:12 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR #22.

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Public Comment No. 24-NFPA 1977-2014 [ New Section after 6.3.5.1.1.2 ]

6.3.5.1.2 - 6.3.5.1.4.3 (New section after 6.3.5.1.1.2)

6.3.5.1.2 Finger circumference shall be measured at the proximal interphalangeal joint (first knuckle).

6.3.5.1.3 Finger length shall be measured from the tip of the finger to the base of the finger crease onthe palm side.

6.3.5.1.4 Hand length shall be measured by placing the subject’s hand, palm down, on a piece of paperwith the fingers together and the hand and arm in a straight line.

6.3.5.1.4.1 The thumb shall be fully abducted, extended away from the palm as far as possible.

6.3.5.1.4.2 The paper shall be marked at the tip of the third, or middle, finger. A pencil mark shall beplaced in the notch at the base of the thumb where the thumb joins the wrist.

6.3.5.1.4.3 The straight line distance between the two points shall be measured to the nearest 3 mm (1⁄8in.) as shown in Figure 6.3.5.1.

.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Completes the hand measurement procedure omitted in the First Draft. Language is consistent with NFPA 1951 and NFPA 1971.

Related Item

First Revision No. 23-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 6.3]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 10:04:53 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Accepted

Resolution: SR-2-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Completes the hand measurement procedure omitted in the First Draft. Language is consistentwith NFPA 1951 and NFPA 1971. These are new sections to be added after 6.3.5.1.1.2.

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Public Comment No. 25-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 6.4.3 ]

6.4.3

The heel breast shall not be less than 13 mm ( 1⁄2 in.). To determine heel breast height, the boot shall beplaced on a flat surface and the heel breast shall be measured from where the heel breast intersects withthe sole to where the heel breast intersects with the flat surface. The heel breasting angle shall not be lessthan 90 degrees nor more than 135 degrees relative to the sole, as shown in Figure 6.4.3.

CHANGES TO FIGURE 6.4.3:

Change "Quarter" to "Quarter/Shaft"

Change "Gusset" to "Tongue"

Remove "Ladder Shank"

Figure 6.4.3 Footwear Terms.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Revises drawing to be consistent with terminology.

Related Item

First Revision No. 25-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 6.4.3]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

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Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 10:30:10 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Accepted

Resolution: SR-3-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Revises Figure 6.4.3 to be consistent with terminology. Please see editorial note for specificchanges to Figure 6.4.3.

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Public Comment No. 4-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 6.4.6 ]

6.4.6

All thread exposed to the exterior of the footwear shall be made of inherently flame-resistant fiber. Allthread exposed to the exterior of the footwear shall comply to either A-A-55195, Type I NormalPerformance or Type II High Performance, or A-A-55220.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.8, new sections added

Footwear currently being made with both types of sewing thread.

Related Item

First Revision No. 28-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 6.4.6]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Sep 24 14:29:58 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR #23.

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Public Comment No. 26-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 6.4.7.3 ]

6.4.7.3

Full and half sizes in each of the three required widths shall be accomplished by individual and unique laststo provide proper fit.

Dual sizing of the same pair of boots to cover men’s and women’s boot style shall be acceptable andtherefore separate lasts for men’s sizes and women’s sizes are not required.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Original Public Input No. PI74 which attempted to clarify that dual-sizing would not be permitted was rejected by the TC. This comment would clarify that unique lasts are not required for men's vs. women's footwear.

Related Item

Public Input No. 74-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 6.4.9.3]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 10:38:18 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Accepted

Resolution: SR-4-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Original Public Input No. PI74 which attempted to clarify that dual-sizing would not be permittedwas rejected by the TC. This comment would clarify that unique lasts are not required for men'svs. women's footwear.

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Public Comment No. 9-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 6.5.8 ]

6.5.8

All thread used to manufacturer face/neck shrouds or face/neck shroud components shall be made ofinherently flame-resistant fiber. All sewing thread used to manufacture face/neck shrouds or face/neckshroud components shall comply with A-A-55217, Type I Normal or Type II High Performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.8, new sections added

Related Item

First Revision No. 22-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 6.1.7]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 13:51:52 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR #24.

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Public Comment No. 27-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 6.6.2 ]

6.6.2

Goggle items shall meet the respective requirements for goggles and be marked "Z87 " in accordance withANSI Z87.1, Occupational and Educational Personal Eye and Face Protection Devices.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Correct designation is Z87+ as specified in PI66 for high impact protection.

Related Item

Public Input No. 66-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 6.6.2]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 10:46:18 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Accepted

Resolution: SR-5-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Correct designation is Z87+ as specified in PI66 for high impact protection. See editorial note toadd a "+" sign following Z87. System would not permit this addition.

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Public Comment No. 5-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 6.8.4 ]

6.8.4

All thread used to manufacture protective driving gloves shall be made of inherently flame-resistant fiber.All thread used to make protective driving gloves shall be made of inherently flame-resistant fiber andcomply with A-A-55195, Type II High Performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See section 2.3.8, addition of A-A-55195, Type I Normal Performance or Type II High Performance

Related Item

First Revision No. 31-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 6.8]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Sep 24 14:33:43 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR #25.

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Public Comment No. 6-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.1.9.1 ]

7.1.9.1

Woven garment seam assemblies and seam assemblies that contain at least one woven material shalldemonstrate a sewn seam strength equal to or greater than 315 N (70 lbf) force for major seams and 225 N(50 lbf) force for minor seams and shall only demonstrate failure of the stitching along the stitchline whenstressed during testing .

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

1977_PC_6.pdf 1977, Public Comment # 6, substantiation continued

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Data that is readily available and well known show that a properly designed seam construction, using the correct tex size of sewing thread, and the proper number of stitches per inch can meet the seam strength performance requirements for both "major" seams and "minor" seams so that only failure of the stitching will occur along the stitchline when stressed during testing.

Any member of a manufacturer's staff; designer, product specialists, production engineer, and quality control personnel - who has learned these formulas, (to be found on following page), and their interpretation, can easily calculate and approximate point of failure when fabric sections are sewn together.

Related Item

First Revision No. 98-NFPA 1977-2014 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Sep 24 14:39:01 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected but held

Resolution: The Technical Committee believes that this comment would add a strength test for fabrics that didnot previously exist and could result in unintended consequences.

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Public Comment No. 10-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.1.9.3 ]

7.1.9.3

Where the fabric strength is less than the required seam strength specified in 7.1.9.1 , providing the fabricfails without failure of the seam below the applicable forces specified in 7.1.9.1 , the seam breakingstrength shall be considered acceptable

Fabrics which cannot be used to build sewn seam constructions that meet both the major seam strengthperformance of 315N (70 lbf) and the minor seam strength performance requirement of 225N (50 lbf), anddemonstrate a seam failure, only along the stitchline, shall not be used for the manufacture of garments .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Failure along the stitchline enables garment to be repaired. Fabric failure requires that garment needs to be replaced.

As shown in 7.1.9.1 the different elements that are used to calculate the estimated seam strength can also be useful factors in making a determination about fabric suitability.

Related Item

First Revision No. 98-NFPA 1977-2014 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 13:56:13 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected but held

Resolution: The Technical Committee believes that this comment would add a strength test for fabrics that didnot previously exist and could result in unintended consequences.

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Public Comment No. 11-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.1.10 ]

7.1.10

All sewing thread utilized in the construction of garments shall be tested for resistance to melting asspecified in Section 8.9, and shall not ignite, melt, or char. All sewing thread utilized in the construction ofgarments shall meet the performance requirements of CID A-A-55217, Type I Normal Performance or TypeII High Performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.8

Related Item

First Revision No. 98-NFPA 1977-2014 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 14:02:09 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See FR 20.

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Public Comment No. 12-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.2.10 ]

7.2.10

Helmet product labels shall be tested for legibility as specified in Section 8.32, shall not be torn, shallremain in place, and shall be legible to the unaided eye. All sewing thread used in the construction oftextile components, excluding that used on crown straps, shall meet the performance requirements of CIDA-A-55217, Type I Normal Performance or Type II High Performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.8

Related Item

First Revision No. 98-NFPA 1977-2014 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 14:03:59 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See FR #21. Also, section was misidentified, should be following 7.2.1.

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Public Comment No. 42-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.3.8 ]

7.3.8

Protective work gloves shall be tested for grip, as specified in Section 8.26, and shall not have a drop offorce of more than 30 percent in any 0.2-second interval.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 39 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 39, and is also related to Public Input No. 90.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the

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impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 39-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 7.3.8]

Public Input No. 90-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 7.3.8]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter FullName:

CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation:Correlating Committee on Fire and Emergency Services ProtectiveClothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 13:16:36 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected

Resolution: CC Note No. 2 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 40. The Technical Committeereviewed the CC Note and responded to the questions as follows: 1. The TC is doing this to beconsistent with NFPA 1951 and NFPA 1971.The new test replaces a less variable and subjectivemethod for torsion grip. 2. Testing was conducted on known certified models and no adverse effectswere noted. 3. This method is already being performed by multiple testing laboratories. 4. Therelevance of this test method is that it now measures torsional grip where linear grip was previouslymeasured. 5. Test data is available and will be provided. 6. See Section 8.34 of NFPA 1977 FirstDraft.

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Public Comment No. 13-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.3.10 ]

7.3.10

All sewing thread utilized in the construction of protective work gloves shall be tested for resistance tomelting as specified in Section 8.9, and shall not ignite, melt, or char. All sewing thread utilized in theconstruction of protective work gloves shall meet the performance requirements of CID A-A-55217, Type IIHigh Performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.8

Related Item

First Revision No. 98-NFPA 1977-2014 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 14:06:20 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected but see related SR

Resolution: SR-22-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: The Technical Committee created this second revision to establish minimum standards tomaintain the current quality of sewing threads that are used for the products addressed by thisstandard.

1. Specify the range of Tex thread size that can be used because this is the range specified in thespecification

2. Add a minimum breaking strength requirement to ensure that the minimum requirements formajor seams can be met

3. Verify that excessive thread elongation does not result in diminished seam and garmentperformance properties not evaluated by seam strength

4. Verify that sewing thread will not melt and result in seam failure

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Public Comment No. 43-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.3.11 ]

7.3.11

Protective work gloves shall be tested using the torque test specified in Section 8.34, and shall have anaverage percent of bare-handed control not less than 80 percent.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note No. 2 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 40

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field.

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Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 40-NFPA 1977-2014 [New Section after 7.3.10]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter FullName:

CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation:CC on Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing andEquipment

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 13:25:58 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected

Resolution: CC Note No. 2 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 40. The Technical Committeereviewed the CC Note and responded to the questions as follows: 1. The TC is doing this to beconsistent with NFPA 1951 and NFPA 1971.The new test replaces a less variable and subjectivemethod for torsion grip. 2. Testing was conducted on known certified models and no adverse effectswere noted. 3. This method is already being performed by multiple testing laboratories. 4. Therelevance of this test method is that it now measures torsional grip where linear grip was previouslymeasured. 5. Test data is available and will be provided. 6. See Section 8.34 of NFPA 1977 FirstDraft.

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Public Comment No. 44-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.4.5 ]

7.4.5

Protective footwear sole and heel composites, excluding the sole and heel composites of caulked boots,shall be tested for resistance to abrasion as specified in Section 8.18, and the relative volume loss shall

not be greater than 250 mm3.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note No. 3 appeared on the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 43, and is also related to Public Input No. 75.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful

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differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 43-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 7.4.5]

Public Input No. 75-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 7.4.1]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter FullName:

CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation:Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and EquipmentCC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 13:33:52 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected

Resolution: CC Note No. 3 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 43, and is also related toPublic Input No. 75. . The Technical Committee reviewed the CC Note and responded to thequestions as follows: 1. The TC is doing this to be consistent with NFPA 1951 and NFPA 1971.Thenew test is an industry-wide practice for measuring abrasion resistance. 2. Testing was conductedon known certified models and no adverse effects were noted. 3. This method is already beingperformed by multiple testing laboratories. 4. The relevance of this test method is that the standardis now measuring abrasion resistance in accordance with globally accepted methods. 5. Test data isavailable and will be provided. 6. See ISO 4649.

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Public Comment No. 45-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.4.7 ]

7.4.7

Protective footwear, excluding caulked footwear, shall be tested for slip resistance as specified in Section8.33, and shall have a coefficient of friction of 0.40 or greater.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note No. 4 appeared on the First Draft Report as a First Revision No. 44, and is also related to the Public Input No. 82.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the

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impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 44-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 7.4.7]

Public Input No. 82-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 7.4.7]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 13:43:08 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected

Resolution: CC Note No. 4 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 44, and is also related toPublic Input No. 82. The Technical Committee reviewed the CC Note and responded to thequestions as follows: 1. The TC is doing this to be consistent with NFPA 1951 and NFPA 1971.Thenew test replaces a footwear sole sample with the entire footwear. Also, the current ASTM methodhas been withdrawn. 2. Testing was conducted on known certified models and no adverse effectswere noted. 3. This method is already being performed by multiple testing laboratories. 4. Therelevance of this test method is that it the standard is now determining slip resistance based on theentire footwear sole instead of a small specimen. 5. Test data is available and will be provided. 6.See ASTM F2913.

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Public Comment No. 29-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.4.9 ]

7.4.9

Protective footwear shall be tested for resistance to flame as specified in Section 8.14, and shall not havean afterflame greater than 2 5 seconds, shall not melt or drip, and shall not exhibit any burn-through.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

PI84, FR45, and the Working Draft of Committee Meeting Output (page 54) all specify an afterflame of 5 sec. This will be consistent with NFPA 1951 and 1971 per the committee statement.

Related Item

First Revision No. 45-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 7.4.9]

Public Input No. 84-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 7.4.9]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 11:24:57 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR #29.

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Public Comment No. 46-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.4.9 ]

7.4.9

Protective footwear shall be tested for resistance to flame as specified in Section 8.14, and shall not havean afterflame greater than 2 seconds, shall not melt or drip, and shall not exhibit any burn-through.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note. No. 5 appeared on the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 45, and is also related to Public Input No. 84.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the

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impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 45-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 7.4.9]

Public Input No. 84-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 7.4.9]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter FullName:

CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation:Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and EquipmentCC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 13:51:14 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected

Resolution: CC Note No. 4 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 44, and is also related toPublic Input No. 82. The Technical Committee reviewed the CC Note and responded to thequestions as follows: 1. The TC is doing this to be consistent with NFPA 1951 and NFPA 1971.Thenew test replaces a footwear sole sample with the entire footwear. Also, the current ASTM methodhas been withdrawn. 2. Testing was conducted on known certified models and no adverse effectswere noted. 3. This method is already being performed by multiple testing laboratories. 4. Therelevance of this test method is that the standard is now determining slip resistance based on theentire footwear sole instead of a small speciment. 5. Test data is available and will be provided. 6.See ASTM F2913.

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Public Comment No. 14-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.4.11 ]

7.4.11

All sewing thread utilized in the construction of protective footwear shall be tested for resistance to meltingas specified in Section 8.9, and shall not ignite, melt, or char. All sewing thread utilized in the constructionof protective footwear uppers shall meet the performance requirements of CID A-A-55195, Type I NormalPerformance or Type II High Performance, or CID A-A-55220.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.8

Related Item

First Revision No. 98-NFPA 1977-2014 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 14:09:47 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected but see related SR

Resolution: SR-23-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: The Technical Committee created this second revision to establish minimum standards tomaintain the current quality of sewing threads that are used for the products addressed by thisstandard.

1. Specify the range of Tex thread size that can be used because this is the range specified in thespecification

2. Add a minimum breaking strength requirement to ensure that the minimum requirements formajor seams can be met

3. Verify that excessive thread elongation does not result in diminished seam and garmentperformance properties not evaluated by seam strength

4. Verify that sewing thread will not melt and result in seam failure

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Public Comment No. 15-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.5.8.2 ]

7.5.8.2

Where the fabric strength is less than the required seam strength specified in 7.5.8.1 , providing the fabricfails without failure of the seam below the force specified in 7.5.8.1 , the seam breaking strength shall beconsidered acceptable.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 7.1.9.1 and Section 7.1.9.3

Related Item

First Revision No. 98-NFPA 1977-2014 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 14:12:42 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected but held

Resolution: The Technical Committee believes that this Public Comment would add a strength test for fabricsthat did not previously exist and could result in unintended consequences.

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Public Comment No. 16-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.5.9 ]

7.5.9

All sewing thread utilized in the construction of protective face/neck shrouds shall be tested for resistanceto melting as specified in Section 8.9, and shall not ignite, melt, or char. All sewing thread utilized n thethe construction of face/neck shrouds shall meet the performance requirements of CID A-A-55217, Type INormal Performance or Type II High Performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.8

Related Item

First Revision No. 98-NFPA 1977-2014 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 14:14:10 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected but see related SR

Resolution: SR-24-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: The Technical Committee created this second revision to establish minimum standards tomaintain the current quality of sewing threads that are used for the products addressed by thisstandard.

1. Specify the range of Tex thread size that can be used because this is the range specified in thespecification

2. Add a minimum breaking strength requirement to ensure that the minimum requirements formajor seams can be met

3. Verify that excessive thread elongation does not result in diminished seam and garmentperformance properties not evaluated by seam strength

4. Verify that sewing thread will not melt and result in seam failure

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Public Comment No. 17-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.6.2 ]

7.6.2

All sewing thread utilized in the construction of protective goggles shall be tested for resistance to meltingas specified in Section 8.9, and shall not ignite, melt, or char. All sewing thread utilized in the constructionof textile elements used with protective goggles shall meet the performance requirements of either CIDA-A-55217, Type I Normal Performance or Type II High Performance, or CID A-A-55195, Type I NormalPerformance or Type II High Performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.8

Related Item

First Revision No. 98-NFPA 1977-2014 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 14:16:05 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected but see related SR

Resolution: SR-25-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: The Technical Committee created this second revision to establish minimum standards tomaintain the current quality of sewing threads that are used for the products addressed by thisstandard.

1. Specify the range of Tex thread size that can be used because this is the range specified in thespecification

2. Add a minimum breaking strength requirement to ensure that the minimum requirements formajor seams can be met

3. Verify that excessive thread elongation does not result in diminished seam and garmentperformance properties not evaluated by seam strength

4. Verify that sewing thread will not melt and result in seam failure

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Public Comment No. 47-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.8.6 ]

7.8.6

Protective driving gloves shall be tested for grip as specified in Section 8.26, and shall not have a drop offorce of more than 30 percent in any 0.2-second interval.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note No. 6 appeared on the First Draft Report as First Revision No 49 and is also related to Public Input No. 91.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the

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impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 49-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 7.8.6]

Public Input No. 91-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 7.8.6]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:24:54 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected

Resolution: The Technical Committee reviewed the CC Note and responded to the questions as follows: 1. TheTC is doing this to be consistent with NFPA 1951 and NFPA 1971.The new test replaces a footwearsole sample with the entire footwear. Also, the current ASTM method has been withdrawn. 2. Testingwas conducted on known certified models and no adverse effects were noted. 3. This method isalready being performed by multiple testing laboratories. 4. The relevance of this test method is thatthe standard is now determining slip resistance based on the entire footwear sole instead of a smallspecimen. 5. Test data is available and will be provided. 6. See ASTM F2913.

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Public Comment No. 18-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.8.8 ]

7.8.8

All sewing thread utilized in the construction of protective driving gloves shall be tested for resistance tomelting as specified in Section 8.9, and shall not ignite, melt, or char. All sewing thread utilized in theconstruction of protective driving gloves shall meet the performance requirements of CID A-A-55195, TypeII High Performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.8

Related Item

First Revision No. 98-NFPA 1977-2014 [Global Input]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 14:20:04 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected but see related SR

Resolution: SR-26-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: The Technical Committee created this second revision to establish minimum standards tomaintain the current quality of sewing threads that are used for the products addressed by thisstandard.

1. Specify the range of Tex thread size that can be used because this is the range specified in thespecification

2. Add a minimum breaking strength requirement to ensure that the minimum requirements formajor seams can be met

3. Verify that excessive thread elongation does not result in diminished seam and garmentperformance properties not evaluated by seam strength

4. Verify that sewing thread will not melt and result in seam failure

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Public Comment No. 48-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 7.8.8 ]

7.8.8

All sewing thread utilized in the construction of protective driving gloves shall be tested for resistance tomelting as specified in Section 8.9, and shall not ignite, melt, or char.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note No. 7 appeared on the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 50 and is also related to Public Input No. 96.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the

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impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 50-NFPA 1977-2014 [New Section after 7.8.8]

Public Input No. 96-NFPA 1977-2013 [New Section after 7.8.8]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:30:27 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR #26.

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Public Comment No. 49-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.1.2 ]

8.1.2 Laundering Preconditioning for Textile Fabrics and Glove Wristlet Materials.

8.1.2.1*

Fabrics specified to be laundered shall be laundered and dried for testing in accordance with theprocedures specified in Machine Cycle 1, Wash Temperature V, and Drying Procedure Ai, of AATCC 135,Dimensional Changes of Fabrics after Home Laundering.

8.1.2.2

A 1.8 kg ± 0.1 kg (4 lb ± 0.2 lb) load shall be used. A laundry bag shall not be used.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note No. 8 appeared on the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 54 and is also related to Public Input No. 43.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify

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meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 54-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.1.2]

Public Input No. 43-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 8.1.2]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:35:50 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected but see related SR

Resolution: SR-10-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: The TC rejected the Public Comment as it decided to return to current text and included TIA11-1.

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Public Comment No. 30-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.1.8.2 ]

8.1.8.2

The wrist crease location shall be marked as described in 6. 8. 3.3 through 6.8.3.9 .4 on each specimenaround the entire glove 0/−3 mm ( 0/−0.25 in.). In the same manner, the water height line shall then bemarked on each specimen 25 mm 0/−3 mm (1 in. 0/−0.25 in.) below (toward the fingers) the location of thewrist crease around the entire glove.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 6.3.3.4.

Related Item

First Revision No. 57-NFPA 1977-2014 [New Section after 8.1.4]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 14:53:51 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Accepted

Resolution: SR-32-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 6.3.3.4.

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Public Comment No. 50-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.4.12.5 ]

8.4.12.5

A series of points shall be marked 75 mm (3 in.) apart on the outer edge of the peak or brim of the samplehelmets, allowing at least three points on the peak and eight or more points on the full brim. The verticaldistance from a known horizontal base plane to the marked points on the peak or brim shall be measuredand recorded.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note No. 9 appeared on the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 67.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful

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differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 67-NFPA 1977-2014 [New Section after 8.4.12.5]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:38:48 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected

Resolution: Test laboratories have confirmed that procedures are being followed and manufacturersconcur.

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Public Comment No. 28-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.4.12.6 ]

8.4.12.6

The length of the brim or peak shall be the shortest distance from each point to the center of the radius onthe top side of the brim or peak where they intersect the dome of the helmet. These distances shall bemeasured and recorded as the original lengths.

PLEASE ADD FIGURE DESCRIBING THE HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL MEASUREMENTS

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

A figure would be extremely beneficial to ensure this process is carried out in a consistent manner.

Related Item

First Revision No. 67-NFPA 1977-2014 [New Section after 8.4.12.5]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 11:09:28 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected but held

Resolution: No figure was able to be provided by the submitter.

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Public Comment No. 51-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.4.12.10 ]

8.4.12.10

After 5 minutes, +15/−0 seconds, oven exposure at 177°C, +6°/−0°C (350°F, +10°/−0°F), the samplehelmet mounted on the headform shall be removed and allowed to cool for a minimum of 2 minutes.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note No. 10 appeared on the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 68.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field.

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Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 68-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.4.12.10]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter FullName:

CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation:Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and EquipmentCC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:40:36 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: This topic is covered by Public Comment #50.

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Public Comment No. 52-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.7.4.1 ]

8.7.4.1

Specimens shall be tested using five cycles of Machine Cycle I, Wash Temperature V, and DryingProcedure Ai of AATCC 135, Dimensional Changes of Fabrics After Home Laundering.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note no. 11 appeared on the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 11 and is also related to Public Input No. 18.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the

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impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 73-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.7.4.1]

Public Input No. 18-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 8.7.4.1]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter FullName:

CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation:Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and EquipmentCC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:43:19 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Accepted

Resolution: SR-34-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: The TC accepted the CC Note as in Public Comment 52. Verification procedures did notsubstantiate a change, so the text reverted to current edition requirements in section 8.7.4.1, withthe two editorial changes as shown.

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Public Comment No. 19-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.9 ]

8.9 Thread Heat Resistance Test.

8.9.1 Application.

8.9.1.1

This test method shall apply to each type of thread used in the construction of garments, helmets, gloves,footwear, face/neck shrouds, goggles, chain saw protectors, and load-carrying equipment.

8.9.1.2

Modifications to this test method for testing thread for use on goggles, chain saw protectors, andload-carrying equipment shall be as specified in 8.9.5.4 .

8.9.2 Samples.

8.9.2.1

Samples for conditioning shall be 150 mm (6 in.) or greater in length.

8.9.2.2

Samples shall be conditioned as specified in 8.1.1 .

8.9.3 Specimens.

8.9.3.1

Specimens for testing shall be the same as the samples for conditioning.

8.9.3.2

Testing shall be conducted on three different specimens of each thread type.

8.9.4 Apparatus.

8.9.4.1 *

An electrically heated stage having a circular depression large enough to insert a micro cover glass shallbe used. The stage shall have a variable transformer controlling the rate of heat input into the stage.

8.9.4.2

The following equipment shall also be used:

(1) Armored stem thermometer with a range of 150°C to 300°C, accurate to 1°C

(2) A low-powered magnifying glass

(3) Two micro cover glasses

(4) Spatula, pick needle, or other instrument for applying pressure to the cover glasses

(5) Soxhlet extraction apparatus

8.9.4.3

The following reagents and reference materials shall be used:

(1) Chloroform, USP

(2)

8.9.5 Procedure.

8.9.5.1

The sample shall be extracted with chloroform for a minimum of 20 extractions in a Soxhlet extractor and

dried. The specimen shall then be cut into lengths of 2 mm ( 1 ⁄ 16 in.) or less to serve as the specimensfor testing.

8.9.5.2

The apparatus shall be calibrated by determining the melting point of a pure material of known meltingpoint. The melting point of the pure material shall be 500°C, ±20°C (932°F, ±68°F). The value obtainedshall agree within 1°C of the known value of the reference material.

8.9.5.3

* U.S. Pharmacopeia reference standards for melting point calibration of the apparatus

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The specific requirements of 8.9.5.3.1 through 8.9.5.3.3 shall apply to testing thread for use ongarments, helmets, gloves, footwear, and face/neck shrouds.

8.9.5.3.1

Following each successive determination of melting temperature for the reference material and for the testspecimens, the stage in each case shall be cooled to at least 232°C (450°F) before a new specimen isplaced for testing.

8.9.5.3.2

The specimen shall be placed in a small mound on the cover glass and covered with another cover glass.The two cover glasses shall be pressed together and placed in the circular depression on the stage. Thetemperature of the stage shall be raised to 250°C (485°F) and thereafter raised at a rate of 2°C to 3°C (3°Fto 4°F) per minute. At this rate of temperature rise, a slight pressure shall be applied on the upper glasscover by pressing with a spatula, pick needle, or other instrument, so that the complete fiber is in contactwith the cover plate.

8.9.5.3.3

When the temperature of the stage reaches 260°C, +3°/−0°C (500°F, +5°/−0°F), the specimen shall beobserved with the aid of the magnifying glass for ignition, melting, or charring.

8.9.5.4

The specific requirements of 8.9.5.4.1 through 8.9.5.4.3 shall apply to testing thread for use on goggles,chain saw protectors, and load-carrying equipment.

8.9.5.4.1

Following each successive determination of melting temperature for the reference material and for the testspecimens, the stage in each case shall be cooled to at least 204°C (400°F) before a new specimen isplaced for testing.

8.9.5.4.2

The specimen shall be placed in a small mound on the cover glass and covered with another cover glass.The two cover glasses shall be pressed together and placed in the circular depression on the stage. Thetemperature of the stage shall be raised to 225°C (435°F) and thereafter raised at a rate of 2°C to 3°C (3°Fto 4°F) per minute. At this rate of temperature rise, a slight pressure shall be applied on the upper glasscover by pressing with a spatula, pick needle, or other instrument, so that the complete fiber is in contactwith the cover plate.

8.9.5.4.3

When the temperature of the stage reaches 232°C, +3°C/−0°C (450°F, +5°F/−0°F), the specimen shall beobserved with the aid of the magnifying glass for ignition, melting, or charring.

8.9.6 Report.

Observations of ignition, melting, and charring shall be recorded and reported for each specimen.

8.9.7 Interpretation.

Any specimen showing ignition, melting, or charring shall constitute failure of the sample.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

See Section 2.3.4

Related Item

First Revision No. 2-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 2.3.4]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Vincent Diaz

Organization: Atlantic Thread & Supply Compa

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Fri Sep 26 14:32:10 EDT 2014

Committee Statement

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Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: The load carrying equipment still refers to Section 8.9, no changes.

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Public Comment No. 54-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.14 ]

8.14 Flame Resistance Test for Protective Footwear.

8.14.1 Application.

This test method shall apply to protective footwear.

8.14.2 Samples.

8.14.2.1

Samples for conditioning shall be complete footwear.

8.14.2.2

Samples shall be conditioned as specified in 8.1.1.

8.14.3 Specimens.

8.14.3.1

Specimens for testing shall be the same as samples for conditioning.

8.14.3.2

Testing shall be conducted on three specimens of complete footwear items.

8.14.4 Apparatus.

8.14.4.1

The test apparatus shall consist of a fuel pan, movable shutter(s), specimen holder, n-heptane, ignitionsource, and timing device.

8.14.4.1.1

The fuel pan shall be 305 mm × 457 mm × 63.5 mm (12 in. × 18 in. × 2.5 in.).

8.14.4.1.2

The movable shutter(s) shall be located at a height of 255 mm (10 in.), ± 13 mm ( 1⁄2 in.), above the surfaceof the water and n-heptane fluid as measured before ignition. The shutter(s) shall be of a size sufficient tocover the surface area of the fuel pan and shall be capable of being fully retracted or fully extended within1 second.

8.14.4.1.3

The specimen holder shall be capable of suspending the specimen over the flame in a manner such thatthe holder does not impede the flames.

8.14.4.1.4

A stopwatch or other device shall measure the burning time to the nearest 0.1 second.

8.14.5 Procedure.

8.14.5.1

The test shall be conducted in a draft-free area.

8.14.5.2

The fuel pan shall be level.

8.14.5.3

Water shall be placed in the fuel pan to a height of 13 mm ( 1⁄2 in.).

8.14.5.4

A sufficient amount of n-heptane shall be added to the fuel pan such that it will burn freely for 1.5 to 2minutes.

8.14.5.5

The specimen shall be mounted in the specimen holder as follows:

(1) The toe shall be at an angle of 7.5 degrees, ± 2.5 degrees, above the heel.

(2) The height of the lowest edge of the specimen shall be 305 mm (12 in.), 0/−25 mm (0/−1 in.), fromthe surface of the water and n-heptane fluid as measured before ignition.

(3) The heel-toe axis of the specimen shall be parallel with the 457 mm (18 in.) side of the fuel pan.

8.14.5.6

With the shutter retracted, the n-heptane shall be ignited using a suitable ignition source.

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8.14.5.6.1

Where paper or other material is used to ignite the n-heptane, it shall not be left in the fuel pan, where itcan disturb the flame pattern.

8.14.5.7

The n-heptane shall burn freely for 1 minute, ± 5 seconds.

8.14.5.8

The shutter(s) shall be positioned above the flame.

8.14.5.9

The specimen shall be positioned above the shutter(s) over the approximate center of the flame area.

8.14.5.10

The shutter(s) shall be retracted and specimen flame exposure shall commence not longer than 1 minute15 seconds from ignition.

8.14.5.11

The specimen shall be exposed to the flame for 12 seconds ± 0.2 second.

8.14.5.12

Following flame exposure, the shutter(s) shall be repositioned above the flame.

8.14.5.13

Water shall be placed in the fuel pan to a height of 13 mm ( 1⁄2 in.).

8.14.6 Report.

8.14.6.1

The afterflame time shall be recorded and reported for each specimen.

8.14.6.2

The average afterflame time shall be recorded and reported.

8.14.6.3

The afterflame time shall be reported to the nearest 0.2 second.

8.14.6.4

Observations of burn-through, melting, or dripping for each specimen shall be recorded and reported.

8.14.7 Interpretation.

8.14.7.1

Pass or fail performance shall be based on average afterflame time.

8.14.7.2

Any observed burn-through, melting, or dripping shall constitute failure of the test sample.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note No. 12 appeared on the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 74 and is also related to Public Input No. 85.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

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The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 74-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.14]

Public Input No. 85-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 8.14]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: CC on FAE-AAC

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Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:46:06 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR# .... for PC 46.

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Public Comment No. 31-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.14.5.13 ]

8.14.5.13

Water

The afterflame time shall be

placed in the fuel pan to a height of 13 mm ( 1 ⁄ 2 in.).

measured as the time, in seconds to the nearest 0.2 second, that the specimen continues to flame afterthe burner is removed from the flame, excluding laces.

8.14.5.14 Following the flame exposure, the specimen shall be removed and examined for melting,dripping, and burn-through, excluding laces.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

These statements were unintentionally omitted from the First Draft Report. See PI85 and FR74.

Related Item

Public Input No. 85-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 8.14]

First Revision No. 74-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.14]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 15:13:23 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Accepted

Resolution: SR-35-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: These requirements were unintentionally omitted from the First Draft Report. See PI85 andFR74.

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Public Comment No. 32-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.14.7.2 ]

8.14.7.2

Any observed burn-through, melting, or dripping, excluding laces, shall constitute failure of the test sample.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Wording was unintentionally omitted from the First Draft Report. See PI85 and FR74.

Related Item

Public Input No. 85-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 8.14]

First Revision No. 74-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.14]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 15:18:46 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Accepted

Resolution: SR-36-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Text was unintentionally omitted from the First Draft Report. See PI85 and FR74.

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Public Comment No. 56-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.18 ]

8.18 Protective Footwear Abrasion Test.

8.18.1

This test shall apply to protective footwear sole/heel compounds.

8.18.2 Samples.

8.18.2.1

Samples for conditioning shall be as specified in ISO 4649, Rubber, vulcanized or thermoplastic —Determination of abrasion resistance using a rotating cylindrical drum device.

8.18.2.2

Samples shall be conditioned as specified in 8.1.1.

8.18.3 Specimens.

8.18.3.1

Specimens for testing shall be the same as samples for conditioning.

8.18.3.2

Testing shall be conducted on a minimum of three sole/heel compound specimens.

8.18.4 Procedure.

Abrasion resistance tests of the footwear soles and heels shall be performed in accordance with ISO 4649,Rubber, vulcanized or thermoplastic — Determination of abrasion resistance using a rotating cylindricaldrum device, Method A, with a vertical force of 10 N over an abrasion distance of 40 m.

8.18.5 Report.

The relative volume loss of each specimen shall be recorded and reported.

8.18.6 Interpretation.

One or more footwear specimens failing this test shall constitute failing performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note No. 13 appeared on the First Draft Report as a First Revision No. 77 and is also related to Public Input No. 80.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate

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performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 77-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.18]

Public Input No. 80-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 8.18]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

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State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:48:44 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR # ....from PC 44 comments.

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Public Comment No. 33-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.20.2.1 ]

8.20.2.1

Samples to be conditioned shall be the wristlet material or a pouch or swatch as described in 8.1. 5. 7

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.7.

Related Item

First Revision No. 78-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.20.2]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 15:25:46 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Accepted

Resolution: SR-13-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.7.

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Public Comment No. 34-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.21.2.1 ]

8.21.2.1

Samples for conditioning shall be in the form of a pouch or swatch as described in 8.1.5 7 .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.7.

Related Item

First Revision No. 80-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.21.2]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 15:32:58 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Accepted

Resolution: SR-11-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.7.

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Public Comment No. 35-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.22.2.1 ]

8.22.2.1

Samples for conditioning shall be in the form of a pouch or swatch as described in 8.1.5 7 .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.7.

Related Item

First Revision No. 84-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.22.2]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 15:44:00 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Accepted

Resolution: SR-37-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.7.

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Public Comment No. 36-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.23.7.1 ]

8.23.7.1

Samples for conditioning shall be in the form of a pouch or swatch as described in 8.1.5 7 .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Incorrect reference. Correct reference should be 8.1.7.

Related Item

First Revision No. 87-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.23.7]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 15:50:43 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Accepted

Resolution: SR-38-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Incorrect reference. Correct reference should be 8.1.7.

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Public Comment No. 37-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.24.7.1 ]

8.24.7.1

Samples for conditioning shall be in the form of a pouch or swatch as described in 8.1.5 7 .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.7.

Related Item

First Revision No. 89-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.24.7]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 15:54:50 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Accepted

Resolution: SR-39-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.7.

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Public Comment No. 57-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.25.2.2 ]

8.25.2.2

Samples shall be conditioned as specified in 8.1.1.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC Note: The following CC Note No. 14 appeared on the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 91 and is also related to Public Input No. 60.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field.

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Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 91-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.25.2.2]

Public Input No. 60-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 8.25.2.2]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: CC on FAE-AAC

Organization: NFPA

Affilliation: Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:51:38 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected

Resolution: CC Note No. 14 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 91, and is also related toPublic Input No. 60. The Technical Committee reviewed the CC Note and responded to thequestions as follows: 1. The TC is doing this to be consistent with NFPA 1951 and NFPA 1971.Therevised dexterity test replaces a method that had known inconsistencies and variabilities withinlaboratories. The revised method hsa shown to be consistent. 2. Testing was conducted on knowncertified models and no adverse effects were noted. 3. This method is already being performed bymultiple testing laboratories. 4. The relevance of this test method is that it decreases variability andinconsistencies and therefore is better able to distinguish performance between models. 5. Test datais available and will be provided. 6. See Section 8.25 of NFPA 1977.

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Public Comment No. 53-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.26 ]

8.26 Grip Test.

8.26.1 Application.

8.26.1.1

This test method shall apply to protective gloves.

8.26.1.2

This test method shall apply to each protective glove material and construction combination.

8.26.2 Samples.

8.26.2.1

Samples for conditioning shall be whole glove pairs, in new, “as distributed” condition.

8.26.2.2

Sample glove pairs shall be preconditioned as specified in 8.1.

8.26.2.3

Sample glove pairs shall not receive special softening treatment.

8.26.3 Specimens.

8.26.3.1

Specimens for testing shall be the same as samples for conditioning.

8.26.3.2

Testing shall occur on a minimum of three glove pair specimens each for size small and size large.

8.26.3.3

Specimen glove pairs shall be tested after wet conditioning as specified in 8.1.2.

8.26.4 Apparatus.

The apparatus shall consist of a pulling device that is a 3.2 cm (1 1⁄4 in.) diameter fiberglass pole attachedto an overhead calibrated force measuring device in such a fashion that pulls on the pole will beperpendicular to the ground and downward in direction. This pole shall be used until surface degradationoccurs. The force measuring system shall provide a graphical plot of force vs. time.

8.26.5 Procedure.

8.26.5.1

Test subjects shall be selected so that their hand dimensions are as close as possible to the midrange forhand length and hand circumference for size small and size large gloves as specified in Table 6.3.5.2(b)and Table 6.3.5.2(d). At least three test subjects shall be selected for both size small and size large.

8.26.5.2

The gloves shall be conditioned by the wetting procedure specified in 8.26.5.3 before each set of threepulls by the test subject as described in 8.26.5.4.

8.26.5.3

The pulling device shall be wet conditioned before each individual pull by wiping with a damp rag.

8.26.5.4

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The test subject and the test subject’s hand shall be positioned as shown in Figure 8.26.5.4(a) and FigureFigure 8.26.5.4(b), and as described in 8.26.5.4.2 and 8.26.5.4.3.

Figure 8.26.5.4(a) Position of Test Subject Body, Arms, and Hands with Respect to Pole.(Courtesy of Intertek Testing Services.)

Figure 8.26.5.4(b) Close-up of Position of Test Subject's Hands on Pole. (Courtesy of IntertekTesting Services.)

8.26.5.4.1

The test subject shall stand facing the pole with feet shoulder-width apart.

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8.26.5.4.2

While wearing specimen gloves, the test subject shall grasp the pole with the bottom of the bottom hand ata height equal to the height of the subject.

8.26.5.4.3

The test subject's hands shall be stacked on each other and the thumbs shall not overlap the fingers.

8.26.5.4.4

The test subject's body shall be distanced from the pole so that the forearms are approaching vertical andin plane with the pole.

8.26.5.4.5

The test subject's elbows shall be shoulder-width apart, rotated neither fully in (arms parallel to the pole)nor fully out (arms perpendicular to the pole).

8.26.5.5

The test subject shall pull the pole with as much pulling force as possible in a smooth, steady, swift, andnonjerking action for 5 1/−0 seconds. The test subject shall minimize forward or backward movementduring the pull as much as possible. The test subject shall not bend the knees or pull down with bodyweight during the pull. The test subject shall continue to pull until the test facilitator instructs the testsubject to end the pull at 5 1/−0 seconds.

8.26.5.6

The test subject shall repeat the pull described in 8.38.5.5 for a total of three pulls.

8.26.6 Report.

Any drop in force greater than 30% in any 0.2-second interval, as measured in the force-vs.-time graphicalplot, shall be recorded and reported.

8.26.7 Interpretation.

8.26.7.1

Any drop in force greater than 30% in any 0.2-second interval shall constitute failing performance.

8.26.7.2

Failure during any pull shall constitute failure of the test.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 15 appeared in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 93, and is also related to Public Input No. 93.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

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3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

Public Input No. 93-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 8.26]

First Revision No. 93-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.26]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: PQU- AAC

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

Affilliation: Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

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State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:45:13 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR #..., statement from PC #42.

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Public Comment No. 38-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.26.2.2 ]

8.26.2.2

Sample glove pairs shall be preconditioned as specified in 8.1. 1.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.1.

Related Item

First Revision No. 93-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.26]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 16:02:18 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Accepted

Resolution: SR-41-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.1.

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Public Comment No. 39-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.26.3.3 ]

8.26.3.3

Specimen glove pairs shall be tested after wet conditioning as specified in 8.1.2 8 .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.8.

Related Item

First Revision No. 93-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.26]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 16:12:19 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Accepted

Resolution: SR-42-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.8.

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Public Comment No. 40-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.26.5.2 ]

8.26.5.2

The gloves shall be conditioned by the wetting procedure specified in 8.26.5.3 1.8 immediately before eachset of three pulls by the test subject as described in 8.26.5.4.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.8. Added word "immediately" to clarify sequence of events.

Related Item

First Revision No. 93-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.26]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 10 16:17:16 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Accepted

Resolution: SR-43-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: Incorrect reference. Correct reference is 8.1.8. Added word "immediately" to clarify sequenceof events.

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Public Comment No. 41-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.28 ]

8.28 Footwear Conductive Heat Resistance Test.

8.28.1 Application.

This test method shall apply to protective footwear.

8.28.2 Samples.

8.28.2.1

Samples for conditioning shall be whole footwear with removable insoles in place.

8.28.2.2

Samples shall be conditioned as specified in 8.1.1.

8.28.3 Specimens.

8.28.3.1

Specimens for testing shall be the same as samples for conditioning.

8.28.3.2

Testing shall be conducted on a minimum of three specimens.

8.28.4 Apparatus.

8.28.4.1

The apparatus shall consist of an electric hotplate iron plate measuring 305 25 mm × 305 150 mm x 460mm (12 1 in. × 12 6 in. x 18 in. ) and an oven capable of maintaining heating the plate to a temperatureof 500°C (932°F), a Type J or Type K thermocouples thermocouple , and a meter to read the thermocoupletemperatures temperature .

8.28.5 Procedure.

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The thermocouples thermocouple shall be taped affixed to the insole surface of the specimen next to thefootin the following locations, as shown in Figure 8.28.5.1 :.

(1) Directly above the center of the ball of the footwear

(2) Directly above the center of the heel of the footwear

(3) Directly above the toe-to-heel center of the arch of the footwear, at the inside junction between theupper and the sole

Figure 8.28.5.1 Thermocouple Locations.

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foot directly above the ball of the foot. The thermocouple shall be taped to the surface with the electricaltape to hold it onto the insole surface.

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8.28.5.2

The plate hotplate shall be heated to a temperature of 500°C, ±10°C (932°F, ±18°F) and shall maintain thistemperature throughout the test period.

8.28.5.3

The specimen shall be filled with 4.55 kg (10 lb) of 10 mm ( 3⁄8 in.) steel balls. The weight of the steel ballsshall be evenly distributed inside the boot. The specimen shall be placed on the plate in the upright positionfor 30 seconds, 2/−0 seconds.

8.28.5.4

The thermocouple temperature shall be recorded 30 seconds, + 2/−0 seconds, after the specimen isplaced on the heated hotplate metal plate .

8.28.6 Report.

8.28.6.1

The temperature at 30 seconds of exposure shall be recorded and reported for each area of the footwearinsole for each specimen.

8.28.6.2

The average temperature at 30 seconds of exposure for each area of the footwear insole for all specimensshall also be calculated, recorded, and reported.

8.28.7 Interpretation.

8.28.7.1

The average temperature at 30 seconds of exposure for each area of the insole for all specimens shall beused to determine pass or fail performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The original PI 81 was intended to make NFPA 1977 consistent with 1971. During TC discussions at the FR meeting, the TC agreed that the increased temperature and shorter exposure period.was to be maintained for 1977. This was due to the hazard of stepping into a high temperature depression. Since the higher temperature and short duration were maintained, the original language should be as well. The ball of the foot has shown to be the most critical area, and there is little information to be gained by the use of additional thermocouples over a short period of time. Additionally, electric hotplates cannot be used reliably at 500C.

Related Item

First Revision No. 94-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.28]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Steven Corrado

Organization: UL LLC

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Wed Nov 12 14:05:23 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Accepted

Resolution: SR-44-NFPA 1977-2014

Statement: The original PI 81 was intended to make NFPA 1977 consistent with 1971. During TC discussions atthe FR meeting, the TC agreed that the increased temperature and shorter exposure period.was tobe maintained for 1977. This was due to the hazard of stepping into a high temperature depression.Since the higher temperature and short duration were maintained, the original language should beas well. The ball of the foot has shown to be the most critical area, and there is little information tobe gained by the use of additional thermocouples over a short period of time. Additionally, electrichotplates cannot be used reliably at 500C.

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Public Comment No. 55-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.28 ]

8.28 Footwear Conductive Heat Resistance Test.

8.28.1 Application.

This test method shall apply to protective footwear.

8.28.2 Samples.

8.28.2.1

Samples for conditioning shall be whole footwear with removable insoles in place.

8.28.2.2

Samples shall be conditioned as specified in 8.1.1.

8.28.3 Specimens.

8.28.3.1

Specimens for testing shall be the same as samples for conditioning.

8.28.3.2

Testing shall be conducted on a minimum of three specimens.

8.28.4 Apparatus.

8.28.4.1

The apparatus shall consist of an electric hotplate measuring 305 mm × 305 mm (12 in. × 12 in.) capableof maintaining a temperature of 500°C (932°F), Type J or Type K thermocouples, and a meter to read thethermocouple temperatures.

8.28.5 Procedure.

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The thermocouples shall be taped to the insole surface of the specimen next to the footin the followinglocations, as shown in Figure 8.28.5.1:.

(1) Directly above the center of the ball of the footwear

(2) Directly above the center of the heel of the footwear

(3) Directly above the toe-to-heel center of the arch of the footwear, at the inside junction between theupper and the sole

Figure 8.28.5.1 Thermocouple Locations.

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8.28.5.2

The plate shall be heated to a temperature of 500°C, ±10°C (932°F, ±18°F) and shall maintain thistemperature throughout the test period.

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8.28.5.3

The specimen shall be filled with 4.55 kg (10 lb) of 10 mm ( 3⁄8 in.) steel balls. The weight of the steel ballsshall be evenly distributed inside the boot. The specimen shall be placed on the plate in the uprightposition for 30 seconds, 2/−0 seconds.

8.28.5.4

The thermocouple temperature shall be recorded 30 seconds, +2/−0 seconds, after the specimen is placedon the heated hotplate.

8.28.6 Report.

8.28.6.1

The temperature at 30 seconds of exposure shall be recorded and reported for each area of the footwearinsole for each specimen.

8.28.6.2

The average temperature at 30 seconds of exposure for each area of the footwear insole for all specimensshall also be calculated, recorded, and reported.

8.28.7 Interpretation.

8.28.7.1

The average temperature at 30 seconds of exposure for each area of the insole for all specimens shall beused to determine pass or fail performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 16 appeared in the First Draft report on Fire Revision No. 94, and is also related to Public Input No. 81.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This

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information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

Public Input No. 81-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 8.28]

First Revision No. 94-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.28]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: PQU- AAC

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

Affilliation: Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:48:41 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR # ... from action on PC 41.

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Public Comment No. 58-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.31.8.4 ]

8.31.8.4

Specimens shall be tested separately for legibility after laundering, abrasion, and heat durability tests asspecified in 8.31.4.1, 8.31.4.2, and 8.31.4.3, respectively.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 17 appeared in the First Draft Report on Fire Revision No. 95.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field.

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Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

Related Item

First Revision No. 95-NFPA 1977-2014 [New Section after 8.31.8.4]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: PQU- AAC

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

Affilliation: Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:51:45 EST 2014

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected

Resolution: The Technical Committee did not conduct any testing on this particular subject. The test is alsoperformed in NFPA 1951 and NFPA 1971 and has been found acceptable. Section 8.31.8.4 shouldtherefore remain as written in the 2011 edition.

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Public Comment No. 59-NFPA 1977-2014 [ Section No. 8.33 ]

8.33 Slip Resistance Test.

8.33.1 Application.

This test method shall apply to footwear.

8.33.2 Samples.

8.33.2.1

Samples shall be whole footwear items in men's size 9D, medium width.

8.33.2.2

Samples shall be conditioned as specified in ASTM F 2913, Standard Test Method for Measuring theCoefficient of Friction for Evaluation of Slip Performance of Footwear and Test Surfaces/Flooring Using aWhole Shoe Tester.

8.33.3 Specimens.

8.33.3.1

Specimens shall be the whole footwear in men’s size 9D, medium width.

8.33.3.2

At least three specimens shall be tested.

8.33.4 Procedure.

Slip resistance testing shall be performed in accordance with ASTM F 2913, Standard Test Method forMeasuring the Coefficient of Friction for Evaluation of Slip Performance of Footwear and TestSurfaces/Flooring Using a Whole Shoe Tester, in the following configurations (references to any otherflooring and/or contaminate within ASTM F 2913 shall not apply):

(1) Footwear shall be tested both in the forepart and heel positions

(2) Footwear shall be tested in the wet condition.

(3) Footwear shall be tested on a quarry tile surface that meets the specifications of ASTM F 2913 andshall be calibrated in accordance with ASTM F 2913. The calibration frequency of 10 tests specifiedin ASTM F 2913 shall be equivalent to 50 test runs.

8.33.5 Report.

8.33.5.1

The coefficient of friction of each specimen shall be recorded and reported.

8.33.5.2

The average coefficient of friction of all specimens for each configuration shall be calculated, recorded,and reported.

8.33.6 Interpretation.

The average coefficient of friction for each configuration shall be used to determine pass/fail performance.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

CC NOTE: the following CC Note No. 18 appeared in the First Draft Report on First Revision No. 96, and is also related to Public Input Nos. 94 and 83.

The Correlating Committee directs the Technical Committee on Wildland Fire Fighting Protective Clothing and Equipment to validate the new [or significantly revised] test method through the following:

1. Provide a rationale with supporting evidence that substantiates the need or the rationale for establishing new test methods or criteria or for revising existing test methods or criteria in terms of field relevance, fire service needs, safety concerns, recognition of new product technology, accounting for advances in testing technology, or accomplishing other clearly stated objectives.

Examples of supporting evidence can include the documentation of specific safety issues that have been identified by end user or other groups, which may include statistics on the number of incidents or highlight specific cases where the issues have arisen. Other forms of supporting evidence can include aspects of existing requirements

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that unduly prevent the proper testing or consideration of new product technologies because the existing test methods or criteria are found to be design-restrictive, or information that shows that new test methods have become available that provide more reliable or relevant forms of evaluation for the specific product property or attribute under consideration. The provision of scientific papers, test data, or statistics provides a more robust justification for supporting evidence.

2. Conduct an assessment to determine the potential impact of the new or significantly revised test methods or criteria on products that have already been certified or fielded.

The nature of this requirement is to have the TC assess what the anticipated impact of the new or modified requirements are relative to specific products. It is not the intent to identify specific products that might be excluded by a new or modified requirement, but rather for the submitter to provide an analysis for the types of products that might be affected, with an indication as to why the affected products do not provide adequate performance.

3. Establish Intra-laboratory repeatability and inter-laboratory reproducibility for new or significantly revised test methods. Where possible, test methods shall include procedures for their calibration. The principal certification organizations and their laboratories shall formally affirm to the TC that the tests can be conducted reliably as proposed at least by the time of the second draft.

An essential part of the validation process is to include an assessment of the repeatability (intra-laboratory precision) and reproducibility (inter-laboratory precision) of any new test method or significant modification of an existing test method. This information is important for establishing the reliability of the test method and should, as a minimum, include those laboratories that provide certification services for the relevant product standard. This information may also be useful in setting specific criteria to account for expected test method variability.

4. Establish the relevance of test methods and any associated criteria through a determination of how proposed or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance consistent with field performance.

Attempts should be made to determine the degree to which new or significantly revised test methods identify meaningful differences in product performance or relate to the field performance of products. One recommended approach is to identify product types that are considered to be unsuitable based on end user field experience and evaluate those products alongside other products to determine if the test method suitably identifies meaningful differences in performance consistent with observed field performance. Another approach is to demonstrate the impact and relevance of test results for products through carefully designed experiments carried out in the field. Lastly, one additional approach is to relate proposed criteria to specific safety levels that can be documented through scientific or other reasonably based field investigative work.

5. Provide test data and any other supporting documentation to the members of the respective TC and the CC, or any individuals who may request this information.

Access to the information on which new or significantly revised test methods and criteria are based should be available to all parties seeking this information, including TC members, CC members, and individuals outside the committee process (through the NFPA). Supporting documentation that includes, but is not limited to, proposed new or modified methodology/criteria with justification statements, supporting evidence, test data, references to published papers or statistics, inter-laboratory test results, and other information should be maintained by the TC as part of meeting minutes or made available elsewhere on the NFPA TC website page.

6. Provide at least one of the following visual illustrations of the proposed test equipment and test material(s) to the respective TC and CC:

a. Video(s)

b. Photo(s)

c. Drawings(s)

The visual illustrations shall be provided along with the submittal.

Visual illustrations help TC and CC members better understand the proposed new test or modified test.

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Related Item

Public Input No. 94-NFPA 1977-2013 [New Section after 8.33]

Public Input No. 83-NFPA 1977-2013 [Section No. 8.33]

First Revision No. 96-NFPA 1977-2014 [Section No. 8.33]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: PQU- AAC

Organization: [ Not Specified ]

Affilliation: Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment

Street Address:

City:

State:

Zip:

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 20 15:54:09 EST 2014

Committee Statement

Committee Action: Rejected

Resolution: See SR #..., see action on PC 45.

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