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Page 1: Q , 'STATE CAPITOL ROOM 447 0 SACRAMENTO- CALIVORXIA · Tower Bridge in Yolo County A ' 11 ° , 22 Commis-Sion action Item-23 - U.S. Bureau of Laid Management; authorize„„ execution

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Approvals' of Minutes'''.

Executive Officer's Report,

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14 ' ?r11 20 - Toxaco, Inc‘. , Approval of „acceptance of W). 1(Zase quitclaim., deed and lease termination, 'agreement

15 .A'e 15-year general lease, right-ot-1,Way;, use; tide, and-' submerged land,„ located-at 'Morro Ray c % . ,

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0 0 „..--_,-„-..„,„4,A0 ,, Ictem 21 - Renewal of Salyage Permit 4`'The r'other

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Item. 22, - Authorization ''for Quaff or 0 .„.\ .0 Attar-,.ey , GeneralA to take action= for removal Of pl,r near :the-'' Tower Bridge in Yolo County A ' 11

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Item-23 - U.S. Bureau of Laid Management; authorize„„ execution of ano interagency _agreement c-t

COntnission act,i0111

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PETERS SHORTHANg REPORTING ,

3433 AMENILAN RIVES DPIIVI‘j.taTE 0 0 SACRAMENT6, dALIR)141U4fla,,

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Item 35 -- City of IJong Beach ..„ detorminatiQn.:00 allowAble ,subsidenCe,,costs cexpeRded froth ,tidela:fid

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,23 0 C.,',I Item 36:- City of,<„,rpong Beach, notificatiob of intent

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Commission, action

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Item 29 - Terra nesourcos; ,pxtex Inc., asdignmeht Of a partial interest in, State Oil° and Gas Lease RRC0

1,,ien 26 - 163 t' r an aHalgrattont Trion ,One Shell' Company to 4noth6r Oxnar tiarea and zpuisun,1kay of°an Oil ancl gas lease

Item' 25' - ApprOval, `of Subletting nine geotAermal ,, ., , :,.eases lo Sonoma'', Lase and Atondocino COunties- from _ , o.,,le Gill, company to ano her Mi',I company

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PETERS SHORTHAND RRFORTING' CORPORATION, 0 8433 AMEOICA0110ER SUI,TkA

SA9RAMENTA CALIFORNIA 45825 ,s„ 0

. iVELE.PHONE (911) 9724894

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0- ACTING'ClIAIRPERSON MccSill*: ' All right.- This " „ 0

meeting e State Lands Commissl -0 on .1,1 Come%to °order. a , 0 , ,

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IL °First it sr we'd- 'tied t6 confirm the minutes cox, c 13

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i he° Novmeber 21st and December 1st meetings. „Are sere ''''"50 0 „ 3 3 3

any questions about that? Those minutes are eohfirMed. •I 0

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Th Exgeutive Officer !s Report, MissoDedr1 ° 0 it

EKECUTINE OFFICER DEDRICK: Yes;, Governor. a 0 o

We have ,w,coupl.e item's%'' One iS I sranted 0

erniasSi0en o to PG&E to perfefin emergency bankl -e.-11)airs

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levee to, Protect ggs line facilities. „j2L

ACTING C AIRPERSoN McCARTHY: s that - nlicrophone, 1=r D c

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p enough to it0 prObhb __...,,,...,.0=---„_.L.0 ',

elan a levee to protest gap fW4Alities that serve„

thd--gone . Exploration Engineeririg , ,,,

-1' t 'paidAlis rept. Seo we 've "sent

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sent him a letter t611.1 21, .

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g him he has to °pay his

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3 ACTING CHAIRPERSON .11/1cCARTHY:Q' All right. Thank

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25 Let's proceed into the Calendar now,

PETERS SHORTHAND REPORTING CORPORATION 3.433 AMERICAN RIVER' DRIVE, SUITE A

ACRAMENTO, CALIPORN(46625 TELEPHONE (916) 979.6694

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„ eAre, thereciquiy maters on the Cousent ,Calendar

that anyone wancts "Co raise <-;any,,qUest ions about the

auddence?

'4" MR. ,TROUT M. Chairman, ' -•

we do need to cover

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there anyone in /ale atzdienoe'' that wants:to question any

8 matter that 's on the Consent Calender,before' we act on, it?" 0

3. ('3), (D) andff(E) as part of the Consent Calendar.

ti ACTING CHAIRPERSON McaTHY: All right. ' Is

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EXECUVVE oflIcrat, DEDRICAc:' Other than the two

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„el i 0 ACTING „CHAIRPE,a0,N MoCARAi!k'‘ Other than the , 0

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j3 right., If not, :then the- Consent Calendar iS approved.

Now we're on Item Numbpr -19. Cl (A) was merged, 0 0 /7---- 7, ..,,,--;',.) .Le,.7 .

15 pardon' me, Cl (C) waP—mt.--srgea into Item vumber 19.

16 EXECUTIVE OFFICAI'DEDRICX:W?uld'you like ,0 ,,,,,,,,,_0„,,„_.

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186 , ACTING CHAIRPERSON MCCARTHY: es, please. , , \ 1

EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK: 'CI (A) i. a five2- -,/

"20- year rent review for John Ogden and understand he 'wants

'21 to make a commen(413.-.

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24 ACTING CHAIRPER9ON McCARTHY: I have a request 0

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Q, 202 AMERICAN RIVER ORIVErSUITEA SACRAki4ITO, CALIFORNIA 95826' J

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' MR. HEATLIE: Corr.ect,

0 , . - Q. 3 Ogden,and from john Ogden himself Ito testify in this matter .

Would you like to come forWarkat

HEATLIE I know a little bit aboUt the:

ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: Representing John

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NOw to give you a little background about this,:

What we're talking about is a Wharf ,cro_ss the Petaluma -

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EXECUTIVE OFVICER'DED ICX: Let's have you

-for the record, p ease.

Who would like,

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L 0 22 not'here, Am 6f pronouncing ieright? ,,--,-------'-'''-'2' • . , 23, 0, MR. if..)ILEY: .,That's clog enough, _,

,6 0, (, 24 MR-. REATLIEi lie's appraised the 'square fg)otage 5

MR. OGDEN: I'm John, Ogden. 0, ,

MR, HEATLIE: And I'moJim Heatlie, ,

We're complaining about a 500 percent or better „ 0 0 a„

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increase in therent. Now, if yolg landlord) Aid that to

you, you'd'be here complaining, too, I would think. ,0 From ,\

$50 a , to ,287.50 WOrrks out about that way. yeaal 0

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Marsh starting, on private land, going on State land, andT

20 ending' at the river with a qoato thqe, 10 by 28 ik)e, ,

21 an( some way Larry Suetta -- is that the word rightT He's

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it's only abput 1100" feed. O

2 discrepancy. To give you a

3 this operation,. appliecrJor

4 all the usual agencies like

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So' right the welhave a .c) 60

backg7,-4 cis, ,we started

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starting with the%Army Bngineer ,

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COulity,, State lands,

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10 Yo• had to satisfy them that we weren't gong to tear up

this wharf As close to tithe tracks and adjacent landowners.

Black Point°

Improvement Club, the Northwestern Pacific Railroad where 6 . 0 0 0

Game', Federal Fish ,

State Mater 'Resources,' and also the

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d Game , 'Mar ern

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,.„or o that which we did and we also cleaned up'

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NOw, we took out a bunch of shack. We had to

take out the old wharf, about halt-zof it, pull it out,.

This was the State Fish and Game insisted on this. Replace 0

all this lumber and3 timberwhich we°did in,propero'style0. 6'

,4 think shuld have beendohe'bY the:eate„'but the people with a g d flOat. But to remove all Arse shacks which

Q - have "long since passed away 4ohn° here spent $1200 to

haVe two guys with a pickup truck make many loads of thiS' 0 e„ debris out,,, ofthe marsh and he's got pioture to,s ow what

it looks like before and after. 0

23 Sys anyway) what we a:ctuaj 1y want to know, and: 0

24 I 'don't kndw'whOs going to,toell me -- 1 assumed Larry,,' 0, ci' 0 u ,

25 Would be here and tell me -- is how did he a.ppnAlie square

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, „ 0 have no copY of, p6 we de---.4.1-2:--ti' know h8w muCh per, square foot

II',:: 3 are we suppo ) .d to be paying,. YouAsnow we think it-1-,s -.,

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the area; that

you can only use this float out thoreaand your bo abowt

half' the time becan'se half the time the tide is, out, So;

1 \ must remember, because of the/;11tati011'ill

6 can't use the waterfront,

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onIg‘' use0 50 percent of the So we do' not 'feel that , - A „

an increase in that is justified and we'd like, you people • - :1/ /

,., to justify it, explain us that. "

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EXrbetITIVE 0171Cpt DED1q)14, Mr. Chairman, Lance

Kiley is ,ifN\ chargeof the Land Management DiViSill O and " ,

he and LarC.() ry Suetta are here. I'haPve no personal knoWledge .

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of this 'pattidnAlar incident: \ --------'' ' 0

ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTM Mr. Kiley. I

/MR. KILEY, Yes, < : Mr. Chairman.. According' to

c20 the figures that Mr. Suetta has here, there is in fadt

„2 (L include a.,ten-foot use area around,----,the actual' structure

21 a use area of 2614 ,square 'feet,, • That ordinarily would

23 and i-i ss,.generally taken „the position thaV that tenfoot 0 I:" „ -• 4, • ,. ,„ ,..,i• ', • .,---:-4,,, , .,:, 0„ . 0 ,,,,. ,. . „ „

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PETERS SHORTHANO REPORTING CORPO MSS AMERICAN RIVER ORIVE, SUITE

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a standaZd practice on all of of leases

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doing that-as

,,fok) years.

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The,price per square _oot is basiCally 11 cents o

a ,squo$,e foot. That's based ox a bench mark appraisal

that wasdone°to,bench'marle all that particularie- of II

6 `facility within this particular area. 0

The main reason for the 500 percent increase 0

is, that this particular lease came up. for a five-year p Ff

rent review and it's jumping from/a standard scale flat

fee that'wasn't related to the square foot used to an

appraised" valuebased on-the actual ground that's being CD) occOpJed.

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Emunv OFFICER DEDRICK: ,Lance, I have a

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0 question. r HaVo you People discussed all these things?

MR. K LEY; Ilm not awiireif Mr,cbuotta has

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17 MR. OGDEN: he has not.

18 MR. HEATLIE: No

19 MR. SUETTA: I Grote tier.

20 MR. OGDEN: I've got the letter. It says nothing.

21 o MR. SUETTA: I explained to you though about

22 ille,way s‹.--ppraisal was arrived at.

N 23 EXECUTIVE MICER DEDRICK: Mr. Chairman; I think ,

24 the appropriate thing is to put this over and let ire look .

25 into it and give these people a- Chance to plead the case

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0% 034335iMERICAN RIVER DRIVE,- SUITE A

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5 ACTING CHAIRPERSON McGARTHY: Why don'' t" you stick

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, , 0 around and „let ' s ,have a discussion after, this Commission

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meetineicS 'over.

rl 'rental increase

percent of-, the

24 ,legsee. The rent review, would indicate

25 from0$250 to $3768Cminimum againstofive

PETERS SHORTHAND REPORTING CORPORATION 3433 AMERICAN RIVER DRIVE, 61/1+6 A

SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA 95826 TEL (916) 972-8694

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ACTING CHAIR,' SON McCARTHY: Thad* ybir.

MR. HEATLIW--- n't want to stay here all

EKECUTIVE_OIPPICER DEDRICK Not long.

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MR, HVIATLIE1 Oh, good.

ACTING CtAIRPERSONMtCARTO:

say.

MR,. HEATLIE: , We want, some input.

OUICEREDRICK: That's fine ,

j1 think you wants Cl (C) and l9 now.

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not saying you're going to get diffdrent,oresultut

ACTING ORAIRPERSON McCARTRy; PA9bably within

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HEATLIE:, Hoi-1!;, long will that ,,be approximately?

=;y,, were saying we want to hear what, want .4!x)

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MR. TROUT : Mr". Chairman, on this item it ' s k' i rent review for Thd Ch=art °Room Marinn Wolo ',County . Theci•

0,

23, ourrant%upland owner is Milton. Lane And he is the principal rr

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13 Am, XILE 'fie provided him basic inform t ion

14 'about the kinds of -- Mr. Lapp I don't. believe haS contested

15, this. it's just his sublessee. o

16 ACTING CHAiRPEASON McCARTHy'6 He didn' respond

to the informationZ 0"

Or no

EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICKe: There's,, been - :' , , ,,, i. u , 0

, 0 ,substAntial discuSsion. The Chart loom is'a yeryQpopular

place as' I'm sure you're aWare.— They'rethot contesting

r, itittSlar as 4 jcnOW; is that"correci7 11 (\,od

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ir / MR.: XILEY,0: Mr.. Lane is not contesting it. Mr. 020

CKaI stain hasy,had

, some discussions with staff about the ,

,i, gress incdme and three percent that's trom-the,dockind

faci,lities -- and'three cpercent from the restaurant and , 0

3 "%tr, That's Item Cl (C)., Item 191is to °Change the repor in

4 'or accounting yoar to the calendar year so''a‘ toc make theo

„,, , 5 bookkeeping easier'for the leSsee and hip sublessee. That'

, 6 essentially what the item is about.

v,l- I don't,,know whether Mr. Lane/or his essee is .

/

8 here to speak tp the item. /- 3

9 ACTING CHAIRPERSON ,McCARTHY: Is anyone he e q

. ,

q- 10. to spea* n thisoitem in the aUdiOce? 0 ,

/ o 11 'VOW kind of information°did we provide t Mr.

12 Lane?

THAND R ff,.. O,

F. RTIN, c,c'

ra-go naTioN

d33 AMERICAN RTOOARIvESUITE , -\ ■ SAORAME'NTC)CALIkifiNIA 95825

TELEP figNE {18) 9712-oku, '

MR. KILEY: I,xeally.don't knot:whether he did o o

Mr. Chairman. I don't belieVe he made any responses. - J 0 0 „.„,,, , -,,

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-Number 20.

'49

,.rental,ar4 bow it was eStablished • and we've explained

2 him as a sublesseellOW ,our'rents are .set.. He in fact CI

oi on the low side of our rent schedule, We're trying to

4 do what we can for him. But to change his relit from what"

5, it is6set out here is going to p judice other leases that'

6 we have.

ACTINO.CHAIRPERSON A1 ,-CARTHY Was he caware ,o

this meeti6 of the commission?

MR. KILEY: Yes, he was. 0

ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARPHY: And you. last

discussion with him occurred when?

12 - MR0 KILEY: /

I never have had ediscussion with

13 ,him. One of my Land Agents" people have had disCussions

With him I think up until this last week. 14 C.

15 ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: Okay.

16 Anybody" ten the audience want to testify 0,:p this?

Any memberpof the commission have any questions?

Approved, approve the recommendation.

6

f. 20 TROUT Mr. Chiman, this is the acceptance

21 of a lease qUitclaiT deed and6ermination' for a marine V -

22, terminal pipeline in Morro Bay. Texaco originally had

23 - a marineoterminal which 'they have since abandoned. The 3

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9

10

18

19

24 question was what to, do with the pipelines on the seabed,

25 whether to leave them in pam13 , to remove them, !-? or just

11 PETERS SHORTHAND REPORTING CORPORATI

3433 AMERICAN RIVER DRIVE, SUITE A i2

,> SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA 95825 z7 /

TELEPHONE (9161 912!,0814 o fl

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What to do. kith them. After some ,p' and 0

47vement of the ,public, the staff.is 'recommendinythat,

the pipelines be 4ett-iniilace. They ,are plUggett. That . „ .0 , 0' ■' ,,,. - a retf'y'artifibial'reef be constructed over theseaward 0

.:, 0 ehd of the-piPelid‘. ,PIt''s.a airy sandy, almost desert - '

0

d 7 from some haaibUt.' That Texaco goes ,on, retains responsibil

or liability for Gie existence:Of bhe pipeline, but we ,t,

till; terminate ,;the'' lease ti

,EXECUTIVX 00ICER DEbRICK: The reefy''Commissioners kr

12; f' think that }wily, imprOVe the wildlife habitat 13 there.

14- ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTq: Is there Anyone:

15 'the A dience'#o plbhes to'lestify on this matter?

16 °Any questials froM Commissioners? .„....„1, 0

All right.- We ApproVt...the 'staff recommehdation,

(I ' EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK4 The pext one is a , 0- „ :,., 0 o 0 4,,

0

renewal .,0T, a, salVage permkt for alear I „think for the g

vessel Mailed the Brother Jonathan= which is on (State land.

12 f in the ocean off Del Norte Co).ahty

2:3 ACTING CRA1RPERSON McCARTNY: ,Anybody,in

24 aUdienge hAve any questions on thit?' 00

25 V I Commissioners?

, PETERS SHORTHAND-`REPORTING ,CORPORATION 0

TEL0HONapik 9724894

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,.„, • (,, . . c15 area%fromthe.standpoint of fish - life. except I 'understand , , . 0 .

propoWld bjthe Ilepartment of Fish and Game and they.

`Brother jonatban Company which is trying - to salvage a .

3433 AMERICAN RIVER DRIVE, gurre A„ SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA 95826

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MR., TROUT: 922 is the authorization for staff(' 0 o

or the Officre„ of the- Attorney ,General,Qt6 take,' actiorP for

the reiTio'vai fof a pier near the_ liower Bridge in. Yolo County:

i., „.„, 09- , ' or Viits paying rent toc:Zremeve the facility'. It's Our 0 ,.„ " , . 00

understanding he _has ndt paid ',:th6. ' rent and h has not removed .

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the facility. So this woad allow us the opportunity, 8'

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allow stgaff , tho opportluitty to go ahead and, trove against , CI

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the bonding company and take'r, whataver - aotion is nece.5sary II

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either to ,15iriig the lease burrent j'31 terms ol 'rent and i , 0 . 0 ,, ,,

• operataons-or to 'seek re"I'noval of the - zacilax.yi . 14 .„

ACTIWG0CHAIRPERSON McCART' 0 0 0

1om iporissioners? o

9' All right. ApprSved as Q

'

MR - TROUT: 23 involves 'three

.chool o land

n the eu nmerated ,,Confities --

Land Management ''is rUnning recreationa,1 areas in, thec‘ desert--,

--,

jand these are intermixed State Ands." The Bureau of Land -

0 00 Management' is rat •fAmpting to impose' some kind of "controls 6 = <-7 on the rocreatiorfalouse that« would make for more beneficial

-.-----"-:- -72 ■,.. PETORS SHORTHAND REPORTING OORPORATIO'N' '

\,,A ''',' 3433 AMERICAN RIVER DRIVC8L/ITE 'A ,, ,

SOtCRAMENT0e, CALIrORNIA'9508 Q , 0 g

Q TEI.EpHoNE. (918) 932 8694 p0 il `11

0 0 r:

The,fOrmer lessee has not' paid rent ?d ,under the. terms. o.,

off: the lea's'e is -required at. the time, he lavedthe 'property _....,,- 0 o

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idtD,,is to integrate both the State: schOol lands ,,

an&the ELM lands under single management„andrecommend

3 apprOval. There is no rent. They will in, etfect police :00 _„

the :lands for us and that's the benefit the State gets. ,

= Reht may be Charged In the fUture0and, would:

0

right, Ally

qUestionS from the audience?

0 From Commissioners?

, EXECUTIVE OFFICWDEDRICK:

general effort to -consolidate management inhere 'w can't

changes and At is also Lisa Beutler's first° .jor

eldar item since she's been with us. %

14 ACTING qRAIRPERSON McCARTHY:

17

'MR. 0 TROUT Mr.0Chairman, 24 involves the dredging

from the Yuba River in MarysviLle.

20 It will: be uhder guidelines adopted by the Department of 1

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m 0 a, 21 Fish and Game,f'' The aterial-is necessary to keep a haul

ct ',- ' 0 0 0272 road for an 'authorized sanitary dispo, al sitsAvailabie

,,e ,

,during thewinter. They need the gravel to keep the road ---------,--4-710

24„

18 0 0

19 Of'up to 10,000 yards

4i■

5;1

surfaced 'forthe trash dump. 0

25 ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY Anr quest ions frput,

0

°PETERS SHORTHAND

/.) REPORTING CORPORATION , 3443 AMERICAN MAR OHNE, SUITE A ' /0 t' /. —

EA0FIAMENTO, CALIFORNIA 95825, , TELEPHONE1919 91,14104 '

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audience?

from the Commissioners?

Approved as recommended.

of nine

MR. TROUT': 25 isothe aPProlmi of Subletting

geothermal leases in thec-Sonoma,' take and

from,ene GRI,coMpany-to another GRI „ 9 It does have taxo implicatioJhs for the company,

Mendocino Counties

company;

but ncrefoiOthe State ,of California. 0

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AdTING,CRAIRPERON:TARTRY:, 9ues*ionS?a ==

COMMISSIONER RASMUSSEN: No money involved? C' . , ,;__;,?, ,

XECUTXVJ OITICER'DEDRICX:„ Nd: 0, 8

ACTING CRAoIRURSON McCARTRYI AuestdensofrOm

,:

the a • udience? C

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19

20

E~ECUTIVE o This is °a use of

in the Geysers

explanation

a blanket bold,for,certain geotherMal leases ,

$0amfielvdthat Union holds.. If you Warm an

Olat, WS a little'bit complex, but Moose Thompson

Is here. dr' It

v. 0(1,

6 c.

different lyInd ,0°, ,

MR.g)TROUT: There are a number of 23 ,

"24 amounts'efor )the eperati* of Union and this would alloW

25 hem to have a common bond affecting all the parcels and ,4) 0 r) 0

0, 0 PETERS SHORTHAND REPORTING CORraRATION

4:13 AMEAIOAN RIVER DRIVE,SUITE SAChAMENTO, CALIFTANIA 9E+325

fl 0 TELePHONEA916) 97258894 a

c 0

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From the

ppkeved

Commission?

as recommeded.,

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it improves the Si te ' s pesi,,ti v

A ING C IVICCARTHY: All right.

QUestions frorn. Co-mmiSsioners?

Audience?

Approved as

27.

(r,

recommended.

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MR. 27 is „the deferment of a drilling

obligation. As `you recall ,under our „leases the ,r '

applicants or the loSSees requiDed to keep „drilling

ss and commc p a new well I thlink hundred and; twenty

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13 they, want a deferment so °they 94n J

do additional seismic

14 work b-604t- commencing to drill another well . Ve Teek

15 that's an appropriate request. 0

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16 ACTING CHAIRPERSON M,CARIHY:3 On tb, / s one that's „ ,,.7. . .,

the (kind were gOing to work with tbe local government'

authority/ , 19

, g,xEctqr;3 FFtaim.' T•1\4i` true. Yes. t

20 On ala of these item)„ particularly °Santa Earbara County,

we 'make sure that Santa 13arbara County knows just what's

on the calendar and why'. Ihi&otry‘ to do that with all counties .(■

but in, Santa. Barbara Counti- there's a higher level of

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days after'liaiShing One, , ,Texac.) has oompleted, aWell. , ',, , -Y.

je st J Wt hast turned out JUst as 't ey and we had hoped and , )

interest. (.1

MR. THOMPSON: Also, we're trying to fit into

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PETEJIS SHORTHAND REPORTING CORPORATION

X * -

3433 AMEHICAN RIVER DRIVP,SUITE A

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EAORAMENTO, OMAPORNIA 96$25 TELEPHONE (E1E) 97248E4 \--

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and Oxtex iS(getting intoit.

'ACTING CHAIRPVISON' MoCARTHY:

PETERS SHORTHAND REPORT01410 CORPO VON $433 AMERICAN RIVER.,DRIVS, SUITS A

SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA 9e82:5 TELEPHONE' 916) 11741894

-1'the only time fheycan 'get their air quality trade,,-offs, 0 0 ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: All right.

Approved. 0

28.

15

,MR. TROUT; 28 is the request for an assignment

7 from one Shell Company to 6a.nother Shell Comp 57,I,of'an

9

10

11

12

13 Trom Oe audience?

14 Authorize as `recommended.

29.

MR. TROUT) 29 is an assignment Of an interest,

of a partial interest in State oil and gas lease from

Terra Resources, to Oxfox and if you have qUestions we,„can

get Mr. Thomp to explain it.= 0

icTINO, CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: What's the main

point it the-transaction?

and gae% lease in the Oxnard area and one ii uisun Bay.

EXE6VTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK: Restru uring.

MR. TR61.6!:, Restructuring.

ACTING' CHAIRPERSON McCARTIn : Questions from

Commissioners? 3

22 /2

Terra 23

MR. HIGHT; Currently, Mr. Chairman, Oxtex and. 0 ,

are both,lessees and Terra is getting out of the,

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'business

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1 the terms don't change. 11 1 Ti

0 0 r 0 0MR. rLLARD: ,Np. They're obligatedundor the 0

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3 same terMs and,Conditions of 'the° d3astl.nease It

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4 a partial asSignMent of 25 percent interest 'in the lease \

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-,,below oqgt air) dbpth, '5500 'feet; °It'0s a° very l*Ited

6 assign It actually affects roy f alty barrels o abott ,

-7C' 12 barrels a day, I thinl ,, ,,,,,,-,-, ,

ACTING CHAIRpERSON- McCARTBY:' AndiJu'ven‘loutinely 0 0 . , checked out the financial? ability of the assigned'? ,. 0 . R.- WITiLARD': ,That's correct. g'They are capable

7-7,\. p 0

of meetqng .their cortin 4,tnUYents.

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12 1 ACTING CIIAIRPERBON McCARTIM Any questions from s\

Commiysioners? tl

EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK: Mr. Chairman, the-,00

.11e,lit five are royalty 'oil sa,e,40, Contradts. ' d

ACTING 6kAIRPER6ON McCARTHY:' Yes. Way queStiont

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from the audience on an of thu next give items? From'. E9 -Cominissioners on the next 'five items?

Weill approVe those.

All r.:1_,ghtp35. 0 0

I21 MR. TROUt 35„' mr Chairman, Long ,0

22 each iruns in Cooperation with thellarborD7ar,tment surveys -

,23 a year to check that thee' has not 'been any, furthe - 7\1 • 6 • //

24 I Subsi ence in the Long Beach - area,.-,This is the closing, '6 c2

* 0 25 of tho' account to ;day creay ior the 'last ,inmental

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PETERS SHORTHAN \ RO,ORTING COR/011if1

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1110N,„, ,,-,0434AMERIdAN FOVEA DRIVE; SUITE A

SACFIAME4TO, Cp,,IFOROA 95026 TE1.6‘91.10NE)19i0) 972-509i

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ACTING CHAIRPERSON)McCARTHY: Anybody in the,

audience have any questions on this (ssne.:? 0

From Commissioners?

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ofij (Appr'oved. 0

,s> 6 36.

,/ i( 7 MR.TROUT: On 66 the City of Long Beach Wants

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4 to spend $166,40d of their own tidelan4 money f ; ;stairway C

L) k. 0 0 .

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, 9 to the beach at Fifth Place. It's cons 'tent with the '\

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11 ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHYt Any quest:id' from

15

16 MR. HIGHT: 37, Mr. Chairman, is wsix,-,Month'

extension'te execute an `agreement he Commissioner h4t.

18 previously,,4prVed. For some mysterious reason the

19 agreement disappeared and we need too re-create the agreement

20."'t, *hat disappeare„ ,0) Cl?, ...-

, 21 EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICia We swear itbdisapi

peared . 0 .I. cr--,2 22 after it' left our office. 0

MR. HIGHT: SO ,we 'need -- .

MR. HIGHT: („0.have copies. We have to get it

ACTING cHAxRprnsox mccARTHy: We don't keep copies?

ti

10 going staiutes.

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PETERSS1.1001THANDREPORTINGCORPORATION ,„ #433 AMERICAN FinitA. DRIVE, stil14k

$ACAAMEN10, OALIFORNIA e5426 stELEPHolie (9 i';',) 02404

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251) ah e g marina on the Sacramento River underR lease.

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PETAEF1S SliORTI4Atip, REPORTINa).COPPPRATION ,' , 0433 tslogRICAN RIVER NAIVE, SUITE A 0 ■

SACRAMENTO, cAurzlINl'A 96823 0 0 (, 0

0 - TELEPHpNE*06),972-8894 o

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0 ° EXECUTIVE OFFICER, DEDRICK:' 'We have to Sign, it

is all the way ,',,round again. 0

ACTING CIIAIRPERSON4cCARTHY: Anybody in the

V

audience have the missing Gagrecoment?

MR; STEVENSONc: L was ,found in the City of San. i

, 0 0 , 0 ri ,

Mateo . i,I „got ,A, „call from the ,Clerk ye'sterdayf , 0, • , , „,,, , a

EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK: Doe S,,,,T;da:t. mean we

don't have to do this? _,,,

MR. STEVENSON( Not reaI y, because '010 still

around ,,and have' to usher

Gevernor's signatureAnd we'rp de by-the first, of t _

, ,

be

At -'1`ave i. . sighed and ,,get the

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year to have it completed. So *e need 'an extension o ,0

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d,1 i , . time still% But it was in their han ,, for the last th ee

0 0

or four months lost. \ k D ( ° ('

EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK: I'm glad to hear ,

that So we do need the extension“ . , °°

0 0 qi ACTING CHAIRPERSON 6CARTHY:' You just want tb .

. , extend the time for the signing of the agreemett2

° c„-'..'p

MR.' HIGHT: Yes. ,, , .

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EXECUTIVE OFFICER ptiatim Yes

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ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: All, right. Ai0oVed.

MR. HIGHT: 38, Mr.* Chairman, -$ autHorization

to talce•Ali steps necessary, including litigation, too bAng

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620

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. ct-,5.„.--......„ O - 0 - . . „.. ., A The reason, -for,',, the- alithorizatiCin :66- tom ga #1.4t

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thet.e are S9 ie boat owners ttP .6,e,§Pasgers, thee.who 'remain.

owner and we on') t ant icipat'e an \ prob10, but, hifs will

We're in thevroce\s% a. negotiatin 1. lease with 'the 1xpltyld„ , 0

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, give us -more levera e. .,,,,,z/

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, ACTOO CHAIRPERSON McCAn HY: All right. Any

°ciaest ions froM Commisesioners? 0

S̀ ''.;.,,,AM(4041Ce

Approved requested,.

'augmentation of the contract with the law:filA that

represents' the'Cothrnissiory on oil ''and gas and land

matters° in INashipgton, D.C. „,Right now -we have -s,.,3z-e.ra.32 ) 1-= ,00 15 issues that were not eXpected at the start of the .year.

14

One was the title ,pr6blem that the Supreme Court- handed

'us n t4P block decision from North- Dakota."

Copgressz- HoWard Berman along "with COngressman .,

Column of korida h ve, introcluded legislation Which would,

a 6, kl a

20 cure the Statute of limitations l.im against states.

) So 'that, 'that, the states could i'Cle quiet title action againt' 0

„ \‘'Nj ,,

the c,',Jn.d.ted States Niithiit facing the 12-;i6aro statnt'e). f 0-0 , , e ) 0 ,

00 , ,z il lim#Adon .' W.,,e have' a coupl)e,of other actions 'pendin

c., in. Congress. q We haVe the OQS revenue,-sharing hilI,. There'

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0 0 3 is eroyalty acdounting correction. = Jan,-.what haVe I massed?

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PETERS SHORTHAND REPORTING-CORN:1AM , 64SSAM0410AN NIVEA DRIVE, SUITE A

SACIPIAMET4TO‘BALIFOIitslIA 9SS26 TELEPHONE M0,8724804

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MR—STEVENS: Our school lands obligations. 0 MR: TROUT: c"Ek school land cbbligations, .3..' , ,,„, \- ,

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Tartic0:4;xly to solve thO Elk Hills probleni 0 the 1300

aox7es,,,,lh, Elk HMS that we need -indemn.:ttylor or else c) Il 0 ,` t:,

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Auitable title in therproperty'so-we can get the revenue, „ Y e ■ ,

coining from thlit:'\-4y, a result of that action, oit appears . / tgat theocurrent fu ding is inadequate ,The company or 1 • ' ' , 0 ;/

the firm' has hi rod, as Miss- Dedrick talked trou,about 0 ,

before,, person froM-Califarnia who is?famiItar with the 0 0 , Q ,

Staid operations W4d the') ,ongression0 Sltaflthere to assist

in it and we trk its a Vpry valuab,:4t1, service o,We're

alroaxly gettin4 benpiats''froM'the,,workthi'v sbeen done . ,

with'Xongressman Berman on ito quiet title'Statut(Ps;. -°

EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK,:. And thls Work is , .

all coordinate.d with ,the governar s office in, Washington .

There are a;.10t of other bills around we're very interested

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ACTiNG 61AIRPERSON7MbbARTIW:°

'contract existed?

MR. RIGHT: Existed?

Howjong has this o

ACTING CHAIRPERSON(McCARTHY: With this person.

Mtn' HIGHT: With the lawcfirm of Lobel,,Novins , m

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ACTING CHAIRPERSON AlcCARTIIY: you could use

MR. HIGHT: Since, I'moguessing, '76 or '77. 0

EXECUTIVE 011TICER DEDRIbK: The =reason f, or

augmentation its peciiical.y to covet theperson, .E1 inor

who is doing the ,`Work at the, dbngressional level, ,

very good contacts with the Department of -

and thiS is just -41

-ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: . I m just wondering . - ,_ ,,,,

2; lobbyists California has in Washintton I31C. . 0 Lo 0 0

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that APO" the or .are you saying that

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20 several„,yea,rs ago „,--Iflaree years ago, apq16-- looked

t the representat,iOn. of California inP.the 'Congress and 0 „

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MR. HIGHT: Mr. Chairma.n, youmiglat

the , legislOive analyst s office looked, into

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ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY.,,, That's a little,

EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK: ,Last - year in getting

the Technical .Corrections Act thrbugh,the firm Was real 0

materially responsible for that occurring. That brought 0

7, j3.1, a total of, well,'firstriash°payment„ was $58 million,.

8 7thato we receive iv, February or Marc.. So the,yreally

9 do pay their way, I th1nk. . ,....

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our office would give the letter Of consent to the amendment.

ACTING CHAIRPERSON MOCARTRY: .Thanknyou,

TAYLOR We., have been satisfied with the

relktionship aud, they have provided us 'ability for daily

contact whi h we don4„t haveby,being there.

ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: Okay

MR. TAYLORY I would say ough with regardtO

California. lobbying efforts in Washington, that I think

that historically they've been „shameful, O

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impression. I thitl we ought to have a" party and bring

them call together so they can meet each other.

h°MR. TAYLOR: That mi t be helpful. But Lthink \

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that we're undermanned. When you consider the 'tat of

New, York which is a few minutes, w -4,4n is a few minutes

3 f frOm Was,hington° by almost any conv rtnce, maintains a,full-

de aMdhnteof grants that'

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was Speaker to get. khe 0

- 0 governor, the previous governor, to agree to have just

one lobbYing office in the State of California and then

Work'everybody ease into thatincluqApOpeople,that were

hired for specifie,objectives. 0 tut'iOs never quite worked.

Any questions from the audienc9 on, this?

CommissionerS?

All right. Approve the request.

Any other matters to come before ,the CeinmiSsion? r.

0 - 'Thank you very. much

This mepti \g is adjourned.

[There4on .e State Lands Commission 0

;meeting was adjourned at 1.0:25 a,11110

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