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14 ' ?r11 20 - Toxaco, Inc‘. , Approval of „acceptance of W). 1(Zase quitclaim., deed and lease termination, 'agreement
15 .A'e 15-year general lease, right-ot-1,Way;, use; tide, and-' submerged land,„ located-at 'Morro Ray c % . ,
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Item. 22, - Authorization ''for Quaff or 0 .„.\ .0 Attar-,.ey , GeneralA to take action= for removal Of pl,r near :the-'' Tower Bridge in Yolo County A ' 11
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Item-23 - U.S. Bureau of Laid Management; authorize„„ execution of ano interagency _agreement c-t
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PETERS SHORTHANg REPORTING ,
3433 AMENILAN RIVES DPIIVI‘j.taTE 0 0 SACRAMENT6, dALIR)141U4fla,,
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,23 0 C.,',I Item 36:- City of,<„,rpong Beach, notificatiob of intent
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Item 29 - Terra nesourcos; ,pxtex Inc., asdignmeht Of a partial interest in, State Oil° and Gas Lease RRC0
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Item' 25' - ApprOval, `of Subletting nine geotAermal ,, ., , :,.eases lo Sonoma'', Lase and Atondocino COunties- from _ , o.,,le Gill, company to ano her Mi',I company
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0- ACTING'ClIAIRPERSON MccSill*: ' All right.- This " „ 0
meeting e State Lands Commissl -0 on .1,1 Come%to °order. a , 0 , ,
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IL °First it sr we'd- 'tied t6 confirm the minutes cox, c 13
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i he° Novmeber 21st and December 1st meetings. „Are sere ''''"50 0 „ 3 3 3
any questions about that? Those minutes are eohfirMed. •I 0
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EKECUTINE OFFICER DEDRICK: Yes;, Governor. a 0 o
We have ,w,coupl.e item's%'' One iS I sranted 0
erniasSi0en o to PG&E to perfefin emergency bankl -e.-11)airs
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levee to, Protect ggs line facilities. „j2L
ACTING C AIRPERSoN McCARTHY: s that - nlicrophone, 1=r D c
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p enough to it0 prObhb __...,,,...,.0=---„_.L.0 ',
elan a levee to protest gap fW4Alities that serve„
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-1' t 'paidAlis rept. Seo we 've "sent
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sent him a letter t611.1 21, .
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3 ACTING CHAIRPERSON .11/1cCARTHY:Q' All right. Thank
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25 Let's proceed into the Calendar now,
PETERS SHORTHAND REPORTING CORPORATION 3.433 AMERICAN RIVER' DRIVE, SUITE A
ACRAMENTO, CALIPORN(46625 TELEPHONE (916) 979.6694
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that anyone wancts "Co raise <-;any,,qUest ions about the
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'4" MR. ,TROUT M. Chairman, ' -•
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there anyone in /ale atzdienoe'' that wants:to question any
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3. ('3), (D) andff(E) as part of the Consent Calendar.
ti ACTING CHAIRPERSON McaTHY: All right. ' Is
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EXECUVVE oflIcrat, DEDRICAc:' Other than the two
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„el i 0 ACTING „CHAIRPE,a0,N MoCARAi!k'‘ Other than the , 0
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j3 right., If not, :then the- Consent Calendar iS approved.
Now we're on Item Numbpr -19. Cl (A) was merged, 0 0 /7---- 7, ..,,,--;',.) .Le,.7 .
15 pardon' me, Cl (C) waP—mt.--srgea into Item vumber 19.
16 EXECUTIVE OFFICAI'DEDRICX:W?uld'you like ,0 ,,,,,,,,,_0„,,„_.
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186 , ACTING CHAIRPERSON MCCARTHY: es, please. , , \ 1
EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK: 'CI (A) i. a five2- -,/
"20- year rent review for John Ogden and understand he 'wants
'21 to make a commen(413.-.
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' MR. HEATLIE: Corr.ect,
0 , . - Q. 3 Ogden,and from john Ogden himself Ito testify in this matter .
Would you like to come forWarkat
HEATLIE I know a little bit aboUt the:
ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: Representing John
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NOw to give you a little background about this,:
What we're talking about is a Wharf ,cro_ss the Petaluma -
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EXECUTIVE OFVICER'DED ICX: Let's have you
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Who would like,
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MR. OGDEN: I'm John, Ogden. 0, ,
MR, HEATLIE: And I'moJim Heatlie, ,
We're complaining about a 500 percent or better „ 0 0 a„
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increase in therent. Now, if yolg landlord) Aid that to
you, you'd'be here complaining, too, I would think. ,0 From ,\
$50 a , to ,287.50 WOrrks out about that way. yeaal 0
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Marsh starting, on private land, going on State land, andT
20 ending' at the river with a qoato thqe, 10 by 28 ik)e, ,
21 an( some way Larry Suetta -- is that the word rightT He's
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So' right the welhave a .c) 60
backg7,-4 cis, ,we started
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starting with the%Army Bngineer ,
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COulity,, State lands,
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this wharf As close to tithe tracks and adjacent landowners.
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Improvement Club, the Northwestern Pacific Railroad where 6 . 0 0 0
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State Mater 'Resources,' and also the
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,.„or o that which we did and we also cleaned up'
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NOw, we took out a bunch of shack. We had to
take out the old wharf, about halt-zof it, pull it out,.
This was the State Fish and Game insisted on this. Replace 0
all this lumber and3 timberwhich we°did in,propero'style0. 6'
,4 think shuld have beendohe'bY the:eate„'but the people with a g d flOat. But to remove all Arse shacks which
Q - have "long since passed away 4ohn° here spent $1200 to
haVe two guys with a pickup truck make many loads of thiS' 0 e„ debris out,,, ofthe marsh and he's got pioture to,s ow what
it looks like before and after. 0
23 Sys anyway) what we a:ctuaj 1y want to know, and: 0
24 I 'don't kndw'whOs going to,toell me -- 1 assumed Larry,,' 0, ci' 0 u ,
25 Would be here and tell me -- is how did he a.ppnAlie square
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you can only use this float out thoreaand your bo abowt
half' the time becan'se half the time the tide is, out, So;
1 \ must remember, because of the/;11tati011'ill
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onIg‘' use0 50 percent of the So we do' not 'feel that , - A „
an increase in that is justified and we'd like, you people • - :1/ /
,., to justify it, explain us that. "
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EXrbetITIVE 0171Cpt DED1q)14, Mr. Chairman, Lance
Kiley is ,ifN\ chargeof the Land Management DiViSill O and " ,
he and LarC.() ry Suetta are here. I'haPve no personal knoWledge .
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ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTM Mr. Kiley. I
/MR. KILEY, Yes, < : Mr. Chairman.. According' to
c20 the figures that Mr. Suetta has here, there is in fadt
„2 (L include a.,ten-foot use area around,----,the actual' structure
21 a use area of 2614 ,square 'feet,, • That ordinarily would
23 and i-i ss,.generally taken „the position thaV that tenfoot 0 I:" „ -• 4, • ,. ,„ ,..,i• ', • .,---:-4,,, , .,:, 0„ . 0 ,,,,. ,. . „ „
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PETERS SHORTHANO REPORTING CORPO MSS AMERICAN RIVER ORIVE, SUITE
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a standaZd practice on all of of leases
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The,price per square _oot is basiCally 11 cents o
a ,squo$,e foot. That's based ox a bench mark appraisal
that wasdone°to,bench'marle all that particularie- of II
6 `facility within this particular area. 0
The main reason for the 500 percent increase 0
is, that this particular lease came up. for a five-year p Ff
rent review and it's jumping from/a standard scale flat
fee that'wasn't related to the square foot used to an
appraised" valuebased on-the actual ground that's being CD) occOpJed.
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Emunv OFFICER DEDRICK: ,Lance, I have a
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MR. K LEY; Ilm not awiireif Mr,cbuotta has
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17 MR. OGDEN: he has not.
18 MR. HEATLIE: No
19 MR. SUETTA: I Grote tier.
20 MR. OGDEN: I've got the letter. It says nothing.
21 o MR. SUETTA: I explained to you though about
22 ille,way s‹.--ppraisal was arrived at.
N 23 EXECUTIVE MICER DEDRICK: Mr. Chairman; I think ,
24 the appropriate thing is to put this over and let ire look .
25 into it and give these people a- Chance to plead the case
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5 ACTING CHAIRPERSON McGARTHY: Why don'' t" you stick
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meetineicS 'over.
rl 'rental increase
percent of-, the
24 ,legsee. The rent review, would indicate
25 from0$250 to $3768Cminimum againstofive
PETERS SHORTHAND REPORTING CORPORATION 3433 AMERICAN RIVER DRIVE, 61/1+6 A
SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA 95826 TEL (916) 972-8694
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ACTING CHAIR,' SON McCARTHY: Thad* ybir.
MR. HEATLIW--- n't want to stay here all
EKECUTIVE_OIPPICER DEDRICK Not long.
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MR, HVIATLIE1 Oh, good.
ACTING CtAIRPERSONMtCARTO:
say.
MR,. HEATLIE: , We want, some input.
OUICEREDRICK: That's fine ,
j1 think you wants Cl (C) and l9 now.
,ACTING CHAIRPEPtSON MsCARTW:, , 19.
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not saying you're going to get diffdrent,oresultut
ACTING ORAIRPERSON McCARTRy; PA9bably within
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HEATLIE:, Hoi-1!;, long will that ,,be approximately?
=;y,, were saying we want to hear what, want .4!x)
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MR. TROUT : Mr". Chairman, on this item it ' s k' i rent review for Thd Ch=art °Room Marinn Wolo ',County . Theci•
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23, ourrant%upland owner is Milton. Lane And he is the principal rr
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13 Am, XILE 'fie provided him basic inform t ion
14 'about the kinds of -- Mr. Lapp I don't. believe haS contested
15, this. it's just his sublessee. o
16 ACTING CHAiRPEASON McCARTHy'6 He didn' respond
to the informationZ 0"
Or no
EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICKe: There's,, been - :' , , ,,, i. u , 0
, 0 ,substAntial discuSsion. The Chart loom is'a yeryQpopular
place as' I'm sure you're aWare.— They'rethot contesting
r, itittSlar as 4 jcnOW; is that"correci7 11 (\,od
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ir / MR.: XILEY,0: Mr.. Lane is not contesting it. Mr. 020
CKaI stain hasy,had
, some discussions with staff about the ,
,i, gress incdme and three percent that's trom-the,dockind
faci,lities -- and'three cpercent from the restaurant and , 0
3 "%tr, That's Item Cl (C)., Item 191is to °Change the repor in
4 'or accounting yoar to the calendar year so''a‘ toc make theo
„,, , 5 bookkeeping easier'for the leSsee and hip sublessee. That'
, 6 essentially what the item is about.
v,l- I don't,,know whether Mr. Lane/or his essee is .
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8 here to speak tp the item. /- 3
9 ACTING CHAIRPERSON ,McCARTHY: Is anyone he e q
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q- 10. to spea* n thisoitem in the aUdiOce? 0 ,
/ o 11 'VOW kind of information°did we provide t Mr.
12 Lane?
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ra-go naTioN
d33 AMERICAN RTOOARIvESUITE , -\ ■ SAORAME'NTC)CALIkifiNIA 95825
TELEP figNE {18) 9712-oku, '
MR. KILEY: I,xeally.don't knot:whether he did o o
Mr. Chairman. I don't belieVe he made any responses. - J 0 0 „.„,,, , -,,
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-Number 20.
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,.rental,ar4 bow it was eStablished • and we've explained
2 him as a sublesseellOW ,our'rents are .set.. He in fact CI
oi on the low side of our rent schedule, We're trying to
4 do what we can for him. But to change his relit from what"
5, it is6set out here is going to p judice other leases that'
6 we have.
ACTINO.CHAIRPERSON A1 ,-CARTHY Was he caware ,o
this meeti6 of the commission?
MR. KILEY: Yes, he was. 0
ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARPHY: And you. last
discussion with him occurred when?
12 - MR0 KILEY: /
I never have had ediscussion with
13 ,him. One of my Land Agents" people have had disCussions
With him I think up until this last week. 14 C.
15 ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: Okay.
16 Anybody" ten the audience want to testify 0,:p this?
Any memberpof the commission have any questions?
Approved, approve the recommendation.
6
f. 20 TROUT Mr. Chiman, this is the acceptance
21 of a lease qUitclaiT deed and6ermination' for a marine V -
22, terminal pipeline in Morro Bay. Texaco originally had
23 - a marineoterminal which 'they have since abandoned. The 3
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24 question was what to, do with the pipelines on the seabed,
25 whether to leave them in pam13 , to remove them, !-? or just
11 PETERS SHORTHAND REPORTING CORPORATI
3433 AMERICAN RIVER DRIVE, SUITE A i2
,> SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA 95825 z7 /
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What to do. kith them. After some ,p' and 0
47vement of the ,public, the staff.is 'recommendinythat,
the pipelines be 4ett-iniilace. They ,are plUggett. That . „ .0 , 0' ■' ,,,. - a retf'y'artifibial'reef be constructed over theseaward 0
.:, 0 ehd of the-piPelid‘. ,PIt''s.a airy sandy, almost desert - '
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d 7 from some haaibUt.' That Texaco goes ,on, retains responsibil
or liability for Gie existence:Of bhe pipeline, but we ,t,
till; terminate ,;the'' lease ti
,EXECUTIVX 00ICER DEbRICK: The reefy''Commissioners kr
12; f' think that }wily, imprOVe the wildlife habitat 13 there.
14- ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTq: Is there Anyone:
15 'the A dience'#o plbhes to'lestify on this matter?
16 °Any questials froM Commissioners? .„....„1, 0
All right.- We ApproVt...the 'staff recommehdation,
(I ' EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK4 The pext one is a , 0- „ :,., 0 o 0 4,,
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renewal .,0T, a, salVage permkt for alear I „think for the g
vessel Mailed the Brother Jonathan= which is on (State land.
12 f in the ocean off Del Norte Co).ahty
2:3 ACTING CRA1RPERSON McCARTNY: ,Anybody,in
24 aUdienge hAve any questions on thit?' 00
25 V I Commissioners?
, PETERS SHORTHAND-`REPORTING ,CORPORATION 0
TEL0HONapik 9724894
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,.„, • (,, . . c15 area%fromthe.standpoint of fish - life. except I 'understand , , . 0 .
propoWld bjthe Ilepartment of Fish and Game and they.
`Brother jonatban Company which is trying - to salvage a .
3433 AMERICAN RIVER DRIVE, gurre A„ SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA 95826
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MR., TROUT: 922 is the authorization for staff(' 0 o
or the Officre„ of the- Attorney ,General,Qt6 take,' actiorP for
the reiTio'vai fof a pier near the_ liower Bridge in. Yolo County:
i., „.„, 09- , ' or Viits paying rent toc:Zremeve the facility'. It's Our 0 ,.„ " , . 00
understanding he _has ndt paid ',:th6. ' rent and h has not removed .
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the facility. So this woad allow us the opportunity, 8'
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allow stgaff , tho opportluitty to go ahead and, trove against , CI
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the bonding company and take'r, whataver - aotion is nece.5sary II
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either to ,15iriig the lease burrent j'31 terms ol 'rent and i , 0 . 0 ,, ,,
• operataons-or to 'seek re"I'noval of the - zacilax.yi . 14 .„
ACTIWG0CHAIRPERSON McCART' 0 0 0
1om iporissioners? o
9' All right. ApprSved as Q
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MR - TROUT: 23 involves 'three
.chool o land
n the eu nmerated ,,Confities --
Land Management ''is rUnning recreationa,1 areas in, thec‘ desert--,
--,
jand these are intermixed State Ands." The Bureau of Land -
0 00 Management' is rat •fAmpting to impose' some kind of "controls 6 = <-7 on the rocreatiorfalouse that« would make for more beneficial
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\,,A ''',' 3433 AMERICAN RIVER DRIVC8L/ITE 'A ,, ,
SOtCRAMENT0e, CALIrORNIA'9508 Q , 0 g
Q TEI.EpHoNE. (918) 932 8694 p0 il `11
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The,fOrmer lessee has not' paid rent ?d ,under the. terms. o.,
off: the lea's'e is -required at. the time, he lavedthe 'property _....,,- 0 o
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idtD,,is to integrate both the State: schOol lands ,,
an&the ELM lands under single management„andrecommend
3 apprOval. There is no rent. They will in, etfect police :00 _„
the :lands for us and that's the benefit the State gets. ,
= Reht may be Charged In the fUture0and, would:
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right, Ally
qUestionS from the audience?
0 From Commissioners?
, EXECUTIVE OFFICWDEDRICK:
general effort to -consolidate management inhere 'w can't
changes and At is also Lisa Beutler's first° .jor
eldar item since she's been with us. %
14 ACTING qRAIRPERSON McCARTHY:
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'MR. 0 TROUT Mr.0Chairman, 24 involves the dredging
from the Yuba River in MarysviLle.
20 It will: be uhder guidelines adopted by the Department of 1
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m 0 a, 21 Fish and Game,f'' The aterial-is necessary to keep a haul
ct ',- ' 0 0 0272 road for an 'authorized sanitary dispo, al sitsAvailabie
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,during thewinter. They need the gravel to keep the road ---------,--4-710
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surfaced 'forthe trash dump. 0
25 ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY Anr quest ions frput,
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°PETERS SHORTHAND
/.) REPORTING CORPORATION , 3443 AMERICAN MAR OHNE, SUITE A ' /0 t' /. —
EA0FIAMENTO, CALIFORNIA 95825, , TELEPHONE1919 91,14104 '
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47"
audience?
from the Commissioners?
Approved as recommended.
of nine
MR. TROUT': 25 isothe aPProlmi of Subletting
geothermal leases in thec-Sonoma,' take and
from,ene GRI,coMpany-to another GRI „ 9 It does have taxo implicatioJhs for the company,
Mendocino Counties
company;
but ncrefoiOthe State ,of California. 0
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AdTING,CRAIRPERON:TARTRY:, 9ues*ionS?a ==
COMMISSIONER RASMUSSEN: No money involved? C' . , ,;__;,?, ,
XECUTXVJ OITICER'DEDRICX:„ Nd: 0, 8
ACTING CRAoIRURSON McCARTRYI AuestdensofrOm
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the a • udience? C
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E~ECUTIVE o This is °a use of
in the Geysers
explanation
a blanket bold,for,certain geotherMal leases ,
$0amfielvdthat Union holds.. If you Warm an
Olat, WS a little'bit complex, but Moose Thompson
Is here. dr' It
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6 c.
different lyInd ,0°, ,
MR.g)TROUT: There are a number of 23 ,
"24 amounts'efor )the eperati* of Union and this would alloW
25 hem to have a common bond affecting all the parcels and ,4) 0 r) 0
0, 0 PETERS SHORTHAND REPORTING CORraRATION
4:13 AMEAIOAN RIVER DRIVE,SUITE SAChAMENTO, CALIFTANIA 9E+325
fl 0 TELePHONEA916) 97258894 a
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ppkeved
Commission?
as recommeded.,
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A ING C IVICCARTHY: All right.
QUestions frorn. Co-mmiSsioners?
Audience?
Approved as
27.
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recommended.
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MR. 27 is „the deferment of a drilling
obligation. As `you recall ,under our „leases the ,r '
applicants or the loSSees requiDed to keep „drilling
ss and commc p a new well I thlink hundred and; twenty
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13 they, want a deferment so °they 94n J
do additional seismic
14 work b-604t- commencing to drill another well . Ve Teek
15 that's an appropriate request. 0
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16 ACTING CHAIRPERSON M,CARIHY:3 On tb, / s one that's „ ,,.7. . .,
the (kind were gOing to work with tbe local government'
authority/ , 19
, g,xEctqr;3 FFtaim.' T•1\4i` true. Yes. t
20 On ala of these item)„ particularly °Santa Earbara County,
we 'make sure that Santa 13arbara County knows just what's
on the calendar and why'. Ihi&otry‘ to do that with all counties .(■
but in, Santa. Barbara Counti- there's a higher level of
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days after'liaiShing One, , ,Texac.) has oompleted, aWell. , ',, , -Y.
je st J Wt hast turned out JUst as 't ey and we had hoped and , )
interest. (.1
MR. THOMPSON: Also, we're trying to fit into
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PETEJIS SHORTHAND REPORTING CORPORATION
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3433 AMEHICAN RIVER DRIVP,SUITE A
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EAORAMENTO, OMAPORNIA 96$25 TELEPHONE (E1E) 97248E4 \--
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and Oxtex iS(getting intoit.
'ACTING CHAIRPVISON' MoCARTHY:
PETERS SHORTHAND REPORT01410 CORPO VON $433 AMERICAN RIVER.,DRIVS, SUITS A
SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA 9e82:5 TELEPHONE' 916) 11741894
-1'the only time fheycan 'get their air quality trade,,-offs, 0 0 ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: All right.
Approved. 0
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,MR. TROUT; 28 is the request for an assignment
7 from one Shell Company to 6a.nother Shell Comp 57,I,of'an
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13 Trom Oe audience?
14 Authorize as `recommended.
29.
MR. TROUT) 29 is an assignment Of an interest,
of a partial interest in State oil and gas lease from
Terra Resources, to Oxfox and if you have qUestions we,„can
get Mr. Thomp to explain it.= 0
icTINO, CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: What's the main
point it the-transaction?
and gae% lease in the Oxnard area and one ii uisun Bay.
EXE6VTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK: Restru uring.
MR. TR61.6!:, Restructuring.
ACTING' CHAIRPERSON McCARTIn : Questions from
Commissioners? 3
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Terra 23
MR. HIGHT; Currently, Mr. Chairman, Oxtex and. 0 ,
are both,lessees and Terra is getting out of the,
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0 0 r 0 0MR. rLLARD: ,Np. They're obligatedundor the 0
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4 a partial asSignMent of 25 percent interest 'in the lease \
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-,,below oqgt air) dbpth, '5500 'feet; °It'0s a° very l*Ited
6 assign It actually affects roy f alty barrels o abott ,
-7C' 12 barrels a day, I thinl ,, ,,,,,,-,-, ,
ACTING CHAIRpERSON- McCARTBY:' AndiJu'ven‘loutinely 0 0 . , checked out the financial? ability of the assigned'? ,. 0 . R.- WITiLARD': ,That's correct. g'They are capable
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of meetqng .their cortin 4,tnUYents.
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12 1 ACTING CIIAIRPERBON McCARTIM Any questions from s\
Commiysioners? tl
EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK: Mr. Chairman, the-,00
.11e,lit five are royalty 'oil sa,e,40, Contradts. ' d
ACTING 6kAIRPER6ON McCARTHY:' Yes. Way queStiont
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from the audience on an of thu next give items? From'. E9 -Cominissioners on the next 'five items?
Weill approVe those.
All r.:1_,ghtp35. 0 0
I21 MR. TROUt 35„' mr Chairman, Long ,0
22 each iruns in Cooperation with thellarborD7ar,tment surveys -
,23 a year to check that thee' has not 'been any, furthe - 7\1 • 6 • //
24 I Subsi ence in the Long Beach - area,.-,This is the closing, '6 c2
* 0 25 of tho' account to ;day creay ior the 'last ,inmental
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PETERS SHORTHAN \ RO,ORTING COR/011if1
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1110N,„, ,,-,0434AMERIdAN FOVEA DRIVE; SUITE A
SACFIAME4TO, Cp,,IFOROA 95026 TE1.6‘91.10NE)19i0) 972-509i
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ACTING CHAIRPERSON)McCARTHY: Anybody in the,
audience have any questions on this (ssne.:? 0
From Commissioners?
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ofij (Appr'oved. 0
,s> 6 36.
,/ i( 7 MR.TROUT: On 66 the City of Long Beach Wants
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4 to spend $166,40d of their own tidelan4 money f ; ;stairway C
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11 ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHYt Any quest:id' from
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16 MR. HIGHT: 37, Mr. Chairman, is wsix,-,Month'
extension'te execute an `agreement he Commissioner h4t.
18 previously,,4prVed. For some mysterious reason the
19 agreement disappeared and we need too re-create the agreement
20."'t, *hat disappeare„ ,0) Cl?, ...-
, 21 EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICia We swear itbdisapi
peared . 0 .I. cr--,2 22 after it' left our office. 0
MR. HIGHT: SO ,we 'need -- .
MR. HIGHT: („0.have copies. We have to get it
ACTING cHAxRprnsox mccARTHy: We don't keep copies?
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251) ah e g marina on the Sacramento River underR lease.
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PETAEF1S SliORTI4Atip, REPORTINa).COPPPRATION ,' , 0433 tslogRICAN RIVER NAIVE, SUITE A 0 ■
SACRAMENTO, cAurzlINl'A 96823 0 0 (, 0
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0 ° EXECUTIVE OFFICER, DEDRICK:' 'We have to Sign, it
is all the way ,',,round again. 0
ACTING CIIAIRPERSON4cCARTHY: Anybody in the
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audience have the missing Gagrecoment?
MR; STEVENSONc: L was ,found in the City of San. i
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Mateo . i,I „got ,A, „call from the ,Clerk ye'sterdayf , 0, • , , „,,, , a
EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK: Doe S,,,,T;da:t. mean we
don't have to do this? _,,,
MR. STEVENSON( Not reaI y, because '010 still
around ,,and have' to usher
Gevernor's signatureAnd we'rp de by-the first, of t _
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be
At -'1`ave i. . sighed and ,,get the
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year to have it completed. So *e need 'an extension o ,0
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d,1 i , . time still% But it was in their han ,, for the last th ee
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or four months lost. \ k D ( ° ('
EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK: I'm glad to hear ,
that So we do need the extension“ . , °°
0 0 qi ACTING CHAIRPERSON 6CARTHY:' You just want tb .
. , extend the time for the signing of the agreemett2
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MR.' HIGHT: Yes. ,, , .
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EXECUTIVE OFFICER ptiatim Yes
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ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: All, right. Ai0oVed.
MR. HIGHT: 38, Mr.* Chairman, -$ autHorization
to talce•Ali steps necessary, including litigation, too bAng
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Approved requested,.
'augmentation of the contract with the law:filA that
represents' the'Cothrnissiory on oil ''and gas and land
matters° in INashipgton, D.C. „,Right now -we have -s,.,3z-e.ra.32 ) 1-= ,00 15 issues that were not eXpected at the start of the .year.
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One was the title ,pr6blem that the Supreme Court- handed
'us n t4P block decision from North- Dakota."
Copgressz- HoWard Berman along "with COngressman .,
Column of korida h ve, introcluded legislation Which would,
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MR—STEVENS: Our school lands obligations. 0 MR: TROUT: c"Ek school land cbbligations, .3..' , ,,„, \- ,
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aox7es,,,,lh, Elk HMS that we need -indemn.:ttylor or else c) Il 0 ,` t:,
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coining from thlit:'\-4y, a result of that action, oit appears . / tgat theocurrent fu ding is inadequate ,The company or 1 • ' ' , 0 ;/
the firm' has hi rod, as Miss- Dedrick talked trou,about 0 ,
before,, person froM-Califarnia who is?famiItar with the 0 0 , Q ,
Staid operations W4d the') ,ongression0 Sltaflthere to assist
in it and we trk its a Vpry valuab,:4t1, service o,We're
alroaxly gettin4 benpiats''froM'the,,workthi'v sbeen done . ,
with'Xongressman Berman on ito quiet title'Statut(Ps;. -°
EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK,:. And thls Work is , .
all coordinate.d with ,the governar s office in, Washington .
There are a;.10t of other bills around we're very interested
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ACTING CHAIRPERSON AlcCARTIIY: you could use
MR. HIGHT: Since, I'moguessing, '76 or '77. 0
EXECUTIVE 011TICER DEDRIbK: The =reason f, or
augmentation its peciiical.y to covet theperson, .E1 inor
who is doing the ,`Work at the, dbngressional level, ,
very good contacts with the Department of -
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-ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: . I m just wondering . - ,_ ,,,,
2; lobbyists California has in Washintton I31C. . 0 Lo 0 0
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ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY.,,, That's a little,
EXECUTIVE OFFICER DEDRICK: ,Last - year in getting
the Technical .Corrections Act thrbugh,the firm Was real 0
materially responsible for that occurring. That brought 0
7, j3.1, a total of, well,'firstriash°payment„ was $58 million,.
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ACTING CHAIRPERSON MOCARTRY: .Thanknyou,
TAYLOR We., have been satisfied with the
relktionship aud, they have provided us 'ability for daily
contact whi h we don4„t haveby,being there.
ACTING CHAIRPERSON McCARTHY: Okay
MR. TAYLORY I would say ough with regardtO
California. lobbying efforts in Washington, that I think
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them call together so they can meet each other.
h°MR. TAYLOR: That mi t be helpful. But Lthink \
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that we're undermanned. When you consider the 'tat of
New, York which is a few minutes, w -4,4n is a few minutes
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one lobbYing office in the State of California and then
Work'everybody ease into thatincluqApOpeople,that were
hired for specifie,objectives. 0 tut'iOs never quite worked.
Any questions from the audienc9 on, this?
CommissionerS?
All right. Approve the request.
Any other matters to come before ,the CeinmiSsion? r.
0 - 'Thank you very. much
This mepti \g is adjourned.
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