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3.3 The time-dependentSchrödinger equation

Slides: Video 3.3.2 Rationalizing the

time-dependent Schrödingerequation

Text reference: Quantum Mechanicsfor Scientists and Engineers

Sections 3.1 – 3.2

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The time-dependent Schrödin

equation

Rationalizing the time-depenSchrödinger equation

Quantum mechanics for scientists and engineers Da

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Relation between energy and frequen

The relation between

energy

and

frequency

forphotons

is   E h    

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Relation between energy and frequen

The relation between

energy

andfrequency

forphotons

is   E h    

quantum mechanics

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Rationalizing the time-dependent equatio

We want a time-dependent wave equation

for a particle with mass m

with this relation between enerfrequency

We might also reasonably want it to have plane wsolutions

e.g., of the formwhen we have some specific energy  E 

and when we are in a uniform potential

 E h    

exp   i kz t   

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Rationalizing the time-dependent equatio

Schrödinger postulated the time-dependent equ

Note that for a uniform potential

e.g., for simplicitywith and

waves of the form

are indeed solutions

  2

2  ,

, , ,2

t V t t im t 

r

r r r

0V   E      

  22 /k mE   

exp exp exp ex Et Et 

i t kz i kz i  

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Rationalizing the time-dependent equatio

In his time-dependent equation

Schrödinger chose a sign for the right hand sid

which means that a wave with a spatial part

is definitely going in the positive  z directiThat wave, including its time dependenwould be of the form (for )

  22

  ,

, , ,2

t t V t t i

m t 

r

r r r

exp   ikz

exp /i kz Et  

0V  

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Compatibility with the time-independent e

Before examining the time-dependent equation f

first we should check that it is compatible with

time-independent equationThe time-independent equation could apply if we

states of definite energy  E , an eigenenergySuppose we had some corresponding eigenfu

so that

2

2

2V E 

m   r r r r

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Compatibility with the time-independent e

As it stands

this solution is not a solution of the time

dependent equation

Putting in here for does not work

because has no time-dependencethe right hand side is zero

whereas it should be

how do we resolve this?

    r

  2

2  ,

, , ,2

t t V t t i

m t 

r

r r r

    r   ,t    r

   r

 E     r

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Compatibility with the time-independent e

Suppose that, instead of proposing the solution

we propose , exp /t iEt    r r  

2

2 , ,2

t V t m

r r r

, exp /t iEt    r r

  so solves ttime-independent Schrödinger equat

2

2 exp / exp /2

iEt V iEt  m

  r r r

2

2 exp /2

V iEt  m

 

r r r   e E   r

, E t    r

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Compatibility with the time-independent e

Similarly, knowing that solves the time-independent equation with energy  E 

substitutingin the time-dependent equation gives

    r

, exp /t iEt    r r  

  2

2   ,, ,2

t t V t im t 

rr r r

, exp /t iEt    r r

  so solves ttime-dependent Schrödinger equatio

ei t 

    r

exp /i iEt  t 

 

r   exp /

 E i i iEt   

r

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Compatibility with the time-independent e

So every solution of the time-independentSchrödinger equation, with eigenenergy E 

is also a solution of the time-dependent equaas long as we always multiply it by a factor

If is a solution of the time-independent Schequation, with eigenenergy  E 

thenis a solution of both the time-independen

and the time-dependent Schrödinger equmaking these two equations compatib

    r

, exp /t iEt    r r  

    r

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Oscillations and time-independence

If we propose a solution

to a time-independent problemcan this represent something that is stable i

Yes! - measurable quantities associated with this are stable in time!

e.g., probability density

, exp /t iEt    r r  

2

, exp / exp /t iEt iEt     r r r

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