senate bill 200 transcriptions 2

8/20/2019 Senate Bill 200 Transcriptions 2

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SENATE SUBSTITUTE No. 1 FOR SENATE BILL No. 200

SENATE DEBATE

TRANSCRIPTION

MALE VOICE: If I can find t! "#on"o$ of S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 to S!nat! Bi''

200. I (a" )oin) to *i!'d to i+ fo$ t! #%$#o"! of (o$,in) tat '!)i"'ation- (ic i"

n%+&!$ t(!nt*on! on o%$ a)!nda- #!$a#" n%+&!$ on! in i" !a$t. I %nd!$"tand t!*

a/! )on! to )!t i+ and I %nd!$"tand ! i" co+in) t$o%) t! &ac, doo$.

Mada+ P$!"id!nt Id 'i,! to +o/! tat it!+ t(!nt*on! &! +o/!d %# in #'ac! of

it!+ t!n and it!+ t!n +o/!d do(n to t(!nt*on! and S!nato$ Vo"!'' a" conc%$$!d (it

tat. So at ti" ti+! I *i!'d to S!nato$ So,o'a.

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nato$ So,o'a.

SENATOR SOOLA: Mada+ P$!"id!nt at ti" ti+! Id 'i,! to a", tat S!nat!

S%&"tit%t! 1 to S!nat! Bi'' 200 &! &$o%)t &!fo$! t! S!nat! fo$ con"id!$ation.

MADAM PRESIDENT: M$. R!adin) C'!$, (o%'d *o% #'!a"! $!ad S!nat!

S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 fo$ it" fina' ti+! &* tit'! on'*.

MR. READIN CLER: S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 to S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" an

Act to a+!nd Tit'! 13 of t! D!'. Cod! $!'atin) to ca$t!$ "coo'". T! "#on"o$ i"

S!nato$ So,o'a- S!nato$ R!!d and ot!$". Mada+ P$!"id!nt ti" conc'%d!" t! fina'

$!adin) of S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 to S!nat! Bi'' No. 200- tit'! on'*.

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" &!fo$!

t! S!nat!. S!nato$ So,o'a.

SENATOR SOOLA: Mada+ P$!"id!nt t!$! a$! "o+! a+!nd+!nt"- &%t it

+i)t &! &!tt!$ to di"c%"" a 'itt'! &it of t! Bi'' &!fo$! (! )o to t! a+!nd+!nt".

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Toda* (! a/! an o##o$t%nit* to +a,! a 'itt'! &it of a can)! in !d%cation !$! in

D!'a(a$!. ! a/! an o##o$t%nit* to (o$, (it a #a$tn!$"i# in t! &%"in!"" co++%nit*

tat i" co++itt!d to d!/!'o#in) a +at;"ci!nc! ca$t!$ in i'+in)ton


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A+!nd+!nt No. 4 fo$ S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 &* tit'! on'*.

MR. READIN CLER: S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 4 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1

fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" "#on"o$!d &* S!nato$ So,o'a. Mada+ P$!"id!nt ti" conc'%d!"

t! $!adin) of S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 4 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 to S!nat! Bi'' No.

200.

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nato$ McB$id!.

SENATOR McBRIDE: Mada+ P$!"id!nt- to t! #$!"idin) offic!$ if I +a*- I+

not c'ai+in) tat (! +ad! t! o%t of o$d!$- &%t I to%)t tat (! n!!d!d to do "o+!tin)

(it on! and t(o &!fo$! (! (o$,!d on t$!!. Mo$! fo$ f%t%$! $!f!$!nc! t!n +a*&!

toda*. I+ not d!&atin)- I+ a##* to (o$, on t$!!@ I dont (ant to +a,! a &i) d!a' o%t

of it- &%t I ,no( tat co%'d &!co+! a /!$* "!$io%" i""%! "o+! ot!$ ti+! #!$a#".

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nato$ McB$id! t! #$!"idin) offic!$ a" t!

o##o$t%nit* to acc!#t t! +otion f$o+ t! f'oo$@ t! +otion (a" fo$ S!nat! A+!nd+!nt

No. 4.

SENATOR McBRIDE: O,a*.

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 4 i" &!fo$! t! S!nat!. S!nato$

So,o'a.

SENATOR McBRIDE: Tan, *o%.

SENATOR SOOLA: I &!'i!/! t!* a$! n%+&!$in) it no(- a$! t!* $!ad* to

and it o%t> Id 'i,! to a/! t! a+!nd+!nt in t! and" of t! +!+&!$" of t! S!nat!.

Ba"ica''* ti" a+!nd+!nt- I'' d!"c$i&! it (i'! it" &!in) and!d o%t- Id 'i,! to ,no( if

it" S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 4 *o% a/!.

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Ina%di&'! $!"#on"!

SENATOR SOOLA: O,a*. If *o% and tat o%t- tat (o%'d &! /!$* !'#f%'.

S!nat! A+!nd+!nt 4 (a" $!%!"t!d &* t! Scoo' Boa$d A""ociation. On! of t!

#$o/i"ion" in t! Bi'' a''o(" a ca$t!$ a##'icant to a##'* to a 'oca' &oa$d and if t!* a$!

$!!ct!d- a##'* to t! Stat! Boa$d. If t!* (ant to a##'* to t! Stat! Boa$d- t!* a/! to

a##'* di$!ct'* to t! Stat! &oa$d. Ti" !'i+inat!" t! a&i'it* of a ca$t!$ a##'icant to

a##'*- if it" ca$t!$ a##'ication i" d!ni!d o$ $!/o,!d &* t! ca$t!$in) di"t$ict.

It a'"o !n"%$!" tat ca$t!$ "coo' "t%d!nt"- "%c a" 'o( inco+! "t%d!nt"- (i'' &!

!'i)i&'! fo$ t$an"#o$tation a""i"tanc!- a" #$o/id!d fo$ in t! "coo' coic! '!)i"'ation tat

(i'' a'"o &! &!fo$! t! S!nat! in t! n!a$ f%t%$!.

It #$o/id!" fo$ a t!ac!$ (o i" a +!+&!$ of a &oa$d of a ca$t!$ "coo' tat +a*

&! #a$t of a co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) %nit- #$o/id!d tat t! t!ac!$ $!c%"!" i+"!'f o$ !$"!'f

f$o+ an* co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) di"c%""ion o$ d!ci"ion". And it 'o(!$" t! a+o%nt of

f%ndin) tat a 'oca' "coo' di"t$ict +%"t fo$(a$d on o$ &!fo$! %'* 1 to t! ca$t!$ "coo'

fo$ "t%d!nt" f$o+ it" di"t$ict to 45 #!$c!nt f$o+ 50 #!$c!nt.

U'ti+at!'*- it (o%'d "ti'' )i/! t! f%'' f%ndin). B%t &!ca%"! of t! (a* o%$

f%ndin) (o$," and t! a+o%nt of f%ndin) tat t! "coo'" n!!d fo$ "%++!$ !=#!n"!"

&!t(!!n %'* 1 and (!n t! 'oca' ta= $!/!n%!" a$! $!c!i/!d- ti" (a" $!%!"t!d &* 'oca'

&oa$d"@ and (! to%)t it (a" a $!a"ona&'! $!%!"t.

If t!$! a$! an* f%$t!$ %!"tion" on t! a+!nd+!nt- I'' &! a##* to t$* to fi!'d

t!+ o$ ca'' a (itn!"" (o (o%'d &! &!tt!$ a&'! to di"c%"" t!+.

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nato$ Bai$.

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SENATOR BAIR: Tan, *o% Mada+ P$!"id!nt. Ti" i" an a(f%' 'ot of "t%ff to

&! doin) to t! Bi'' on "%c a "o$t notic!. I $!a''* (i" I ad "!!n ti" &!fo$!. I can

%nd!$"tand t! fi$"t #a$t of ti" in t!$+" of #$o/idin) t$an"#o$tation a""i"tanc!- &%t (at"

t! $!a"on fo$ t(o- t$!! and fo$ fo%$>

SENATOR SOOLA: !'' n%+&!$ t(o it" conc!i/a&'! tat t!ac!$" (o%'d &!

a##'icant" to fo$+ a ca$t!$ "coo' and if tat (!$! t! ca"! t!n t! t!ac!$ a'"o co%'d &!

a +!+&!$ of a &a$)ainin) %nit. So t!$! (o%'dnt &! t! conf'ict of int!$!"t if t!$! (a" a

t!ac!$ a" a +!+&!$ of a &a$)ainin) %nit (o a'"o "!$/!d a" a di$!cto$@ t!* (o%'d a/!

to $!c%"! i+ o$ !$"!'f f$o+ an* &oa$d +!!tin)- di"c%""ion o$ d!ci"ion $!'atin) to t!

&a$)ainin) %nit- (!n t! t!ac!$ i" a +!+&!$ of t! &a$)ainin) %nit.

SENATOR BAIR: Do!" t! o$i)ina' Bi'' #$o/id! fo$ a t!ac!$ (o i" a +!+&!$

of t! &oa$d to &! #a$t of a co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) %nit> Do!" t! S%&"tit%t! Bi'' do tat>

SENATOR SOOLA: T! S%&"tit%t! Bi'' a''o(" fo$ t! "a+! $!)%'ation" a"

c%$$!nt'* !=i"t. I" it $!%i$!d tat t!* &! a +!+&!$ of a &a$)ainin) %nit> Do!" it

#$oi&it t!+ f$o+ &!in) a +!+&!$ of a &a$)ainin) %nit> I dont tin, (! co%'d #$oi&it

t!+. B* 'a( I tin, tat (o%'d &! co/!$!d &* t! Nationa' La&o$ R!'ation" Boa$d

%$i"diction.

Ti" %"t a""%+!" tat (i'! t!$! +i)t &! a ca"! (!$! ind!!d a ca$t!$ )$o%# of

t!ac!$" (!$! +!+&!$" of a &a$)ainin) %nit and tat ti" (o%'d &! an a##$o#$iat! tin) to

a/! in t! 'a(.

SENATOR BAIR: So t! on'* tin) tat ti" can)!" i" tat tat t!ac!$ t!n

co%'d not &! #a$t of co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) di"c%""ion">

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If *o%$! "a*in) tat a t!ac!$ (o i" a +!+&!$ of a &oa$d can &! #a$t of a

co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) %nit- tat tat" not #$oi&it!d in t! S%&"tit%t! Bi''- t!n t! on'*

tin) t! a+!nd+!nt i" doin) i" "a*in) tat t!ac!$ cannot &! #a$t of t! di"c%""ion" of

t! &a$)ainin) %nit>

SENATOR SOOLA: T! ,ind" of di"c%""ion" tat (o%'d #%t t! #!$"on at a

conf'ict of int!$!"t.

SENATOR BAIR: O,a* &%t t! o$i)ina' Bi'' do!"nt !/!n "#!a, to t! i""%! of

co''!cti/! &a$)ainin).

SENATOR SOOLA: A" a +att!$ of fact it do!". It "a*" tat *o% cant &! a

+!+&!$ of a co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) %nit o$ *o% cant o$)ani! a" a co''!cti/! &a$)ainin)

%nit.

SENATOR BAIR: O,a* &%t did ti" $!"t$ict it &* "a*in) tat t!* cannot &! #a$t

of t! di"c%""ion">

SENATOR SOOLA: If t!*$! a +!+&!$ of t! &oa$d- t! )o/!$nin) &oa$d at

t! ca$t!$ "coo'.

SENATOR BAIR: O,a* "o ti" i" $!a''* a $!"t$iction on t! acti/it* (it $!)a$d

to co''!cti/! &a$)ainin)- $!'ati/! to t! o$i)ina' Bi''>

SENATOR SOOLA: Tat" co$$!ct.

SENATOR BAIR: !n I "a* o$i)ina' I )%!"" I+ $!a''* ta',in) a&o%t t!

S%&"tit%t! Bi'' (ic i" &!fo$! %".

N%+&!$ t$!!- if a 'oca' &oa$d d!ni!" t! a##'ication- t! o$i)ina' Bi'' t!n

#!$+itt!d t! fo'," tat (ant!d to #%t to)!t!$ t! ca$t!$ "coo' to )o to t! Stat!

Boa$d>

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SENATOR BAIR: And ti" (o%'d !'i+inat! tat>

SENATOR SOOLA: It (o%'d !'i+inat! t!i$ a&i'it* to a##'* if t!*/! &!!n

d!ni!d o$ if t!*/! &!!n $!/o,!d &* t! 'oca' &oa$d.

SENATOR BAIR: * i" tat &!in) don!>

SENATOR SOOLA: T! 'oca' &oa$d" a""ociation" f!'t tat if t!$! (a" an

a##'ication to t!+- t!* (o%'dnt (ant t! Stat! Boa$d to &! a&'! to co+! in and "a* *!"

*o% can &! a ca$t!$ o/!$ t! 'oca' &oa$d" o&!ction".

If t!* (!$! not %"in) faci'iti!" of a 'oca' &oa$d- canc!" a$! it (o%'d &! +o$!

a##$o#$iat! fo$ t!+ to a##'* di$!ct'* to t! Stat! Boa$d an*o(.

SENATOR BAIR: A" 'on) a" t! "coo' i" not #a$t of t! 'oca' di"t$ict and "!t"

%# a ca$t!$ "coo' tat" ind!#!nd!nt f$o+ tat "t$%ct%$!- t!n t!* (o%'d )!t t!i$

ca$t!$ f$o+ t! Stat! Boa$d- i" tat (at" in t! Bi''>

SENATOR SOOLA: I+ not "%$! if tat" co+#'!t!'* acc%$at!- &%t I tin, tat"

t! int!nt.

Fo$ in"tanc!- t! Stat! Boa$d in t! S%&"tit%t! Bi'' do!" a/! t! $!"#on"i&i'it*

a'on) (it t! D!#a$t+!nt of Ad+ini"t$ati/! S!$/ic!" to +a,! a/ai'a&'! a 'i"t of %n%"!d

faci'iti!". If on! of to"! %n%"!d faci'iti!" a##!n" to &! #a$t of a 'oca' "coo' di"t$ict-

t!$! (o%'d &! a d!)$!! of o&'i)ation fo$ t! Stat! to +a,! a/ai'a&'! to a #ot!ntia'

ca$t!$- if tat a##'ication (!$! a##$o/!d.

SENATOR BAIR: O,a* and t! f%ndin) tin) I dont %nd!$"tand at a''. If a

"coo' (itin a di"t$ict &!co+!" a ca$t!$ "coo' o$ a #a$t of t! "coo' &!co+!" a ca$t!$

"coo'- t!n t! f%ndin) fo''o(" t! ci'd do!"nt it> I +!an if t! ci'd i" !n$o''!d a" of

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S!#t!+&!$ 40t in t! ca$t!$ "coo'- t!n t! 'oca' di"t$ict (o%'d a/! to fo$(a$d t!

!nti$! a+o%nt of +on!*- co$$!ct>

SENATOR SOOLA: If *o% )o to #a)! 8 of t! Bi''- (ic i" (at *o%$!

a+!ndin)- on 'in! 209 and fo''o(in) o/!$ onto #a)! 9@ t! f%ndin) at ti" #oint "a*" t!

"coo' di"t$ict in (ic t! "t%d!nt $!"id!" "a'' ad/anc! at '!a"t 50 #!$c!nt of t!

antici#at!d f%ndin) #%$"%ant to ti" "%&"!ction at t! &!)innin) of !ac fi"ca' *!a$- and

t! &!)innin) of t! fi"ca' *!a$ i" %'* 1.

So- "coo'" a/!nt n!c!""a$i'* co''!ct!d t!i$ 'oca' $!/!n%!". T!* a/!nt

n!c!""a$i'* !=#!nd!d a'' of t!i$ 'oca' and "tat! $!/!n%!" at tat #oint. B%t- a "coo'

tat" a ca$t!$ "o%'d &! !ntit'!d to a/! "o+! of t! +on!* %# f$ont fo$ t! #'annin)- fo$

ac%i$in) t!=t &oo,"- fo$ !/!$*tin) tat n!!d" to &! don! at tat #oint.

O$i)ina''* off of "o+! of t! +od!'" tat a$! in !=i"t!nc! !'"!(!$!- (!/! %"!d

t! n%+&!$ 50 #!$c!nt. B!ca%"! of t! "tat! $%'!" (it o( +%c (! a/! to ca$$* o/!$

and (it o( +%c t!nd" to &! a/ai'a&'! in t! diff!$!nt di"t$ict"- t!$! (a" a !a't*

di"c%""ion a&o%t ti" and t! $!%!"t (a" tat t!$! &! a 'o(!$ n%+&!$ +ad! a/ai'a&'!.

U'ti+at!'*- a'' t! f%ndin) (o%'d fo''o( t! ci'd- &%t it (o%'d fo''o( a i)!$

#$o#o$tion at a 'at!$ dat!.

SENATOR BAIR: B%t %'ti+at!'* a'' t! f%ndin) (o%'d fo''o( t! ci'd to t!

ca$t!$ "coo' f$o+ t! 'oca' "coo'>


SENATOR BAIR: And (at ti" do!" i" "a*" tat t! %# f$ont +on!* i" $!d%c!d

f$o+ 50 #!$c!nt to 45 #!$c!nt>


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SENATOR BAIR: O,a* tan, *o%.

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nato$ Co$d$!*.

SENATOR CORDRE?: ?!" Mada+ P$!"id!nt. M* conc!$n and +a*&! it "o%'d

&! on t! Bi'' &%t I "!! in t! fi$"t 6 'in!" of t! a+!nd+!nt *o%$! d!a'in) (it

t$an"#o$tation. Und!$n!at t! '!)i"'ation- (o i" $!"#on"i&'! fo$ t! t$an"#o$tation and

(at do!" ti" do diff!$!nt'* tan (at (a" #'ann!d &!fo$!>

SENATOR SOOLA: O,a* t! t$an"#o$tation a''ocation i" &a"!d on (at (!$!

"#!ndin) no( #!$ "t%d!nt. Ti" #a$tic%'a$ a+!nd+!nt d!a'" (it- I &!'i!/! on #a)! 7 on

'in! 169 and t!*G$! ta',in) a&o%t- if t!*$! !'i)i&'! fo$ t$an"#o$tation a""i"tanc!- t!*

"a'' $!c!i/! tat a""i"tanc! a" (o%'d &! +ad! a/ai'a&'! to t! "t%d!nt" (o a$! #%&'ic

"coo'!d. i'' (!- %nd!$n!at t! ca$t!$ "coo'"- &! f%$ni"in) &%"in) t$an"#o$tation

fo$ ca$t!$ "coo'">

SENATOR SOOLA: ?!". B%t I &!'i!/! t! t$an"#o$tation a" a co+#on!nt

(!$! !a$'i!$- and I+ t$*in) to find t! 'in!- t! ca$t!$ i" "%##o"!d to &! fo$(a$d!d t!

"a+! t$an"#o$tation co"t tat t! $!)%'a$ "coo' i".


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100 of t!+ co+! f$o+ Ca#! And if tat i" t! ca"!- a$! (! )oin) to a/! to a/! &%"!" $%nnin) f$o+ on! !nd

of S%""!= Co%nt* to t! ot!$ and (i'' (! a/! to #a* t! &i''>

SENATOR SOOLA: !'' t!o$!tica''* *!" t!* co%'d co+! f$o+ #$!tt* +%c

an*(!$!. I (o%'d $!+ind *o% tat t!$! i" a'$!ad* a +od!' in S%""!= Co%nt* (!$!

t!$! a$! "t%d!nt" )oin) to a +a)n!t and tat" *o%$ S%""!= VoT!c Scoo'.

T$an"#o$tation do!" (o$, in tat ca"!. It do!"nt (o$, n!c!""a$i'* (ito%t an*

!a$t&%$n. B%t (! do &!'i!/! tat t! t$an"#o$tation &%d)!t can &! (o$,!d o%t and (!

(o%'d o#! tat t!$! (o%'d &! a 'ot of coo#!$ation and co''a&o$ation in t$*in) to

+a=i+i! t! !ffici!nc* of t$an"#o$tation.

SENATOR CORDRE?: I )%!"" in $!adin) t! "*no#"i" it "a*" HS%c a" 'o(

inco+! "t%d!nt". * i" t!$! a "!#a$atin) o%t of co"t of &%"in) fo$ 'o( inco+!

"t%d!nt" an*+o$! tan a no$+a' inco+! "t%d!nt>

SENATOR SOOLA: T! $!a"on fo$ tat (a" it (a" f!'t tat "inc! it i" t!

#a$!nt" $!"#on"i&i'it* in t! Bi'' to )!t t! "t%d!nt to a no$+a' &%" $o%t!- t!$! +a* &! an

additiona' &%$d!n fo$ a fa+i'* (o did (ant to a##'* fo$ a ca$t!$ tat (a" o%t"id! of

t!i$ no$+a' f!!d!$ #att!$n- &%t did not a/! t! $!"o%$c!" to )!t t!+ t!$!. ! (o%'d

%"! indicato$" of 'o( inco+! "tat%" to t$* to inc$!a"! to"! o##o$t%niti!" "o tat to"!

,id" co%'d "ti'' coo"! a ca$t!$ "coo'.

SENATOR CORDRE?: Tan, *o%.

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nato$ Conno$.

SENATOR CONNOR: Tan, *o% Mada+ P$!"id!nt. S!nato$ So,o'a %"t a

co%#'! of %!"tion" #'!a"!. In $!adin) o/!$ t! a+!nd+!nt tat" &!fo$! %"- it indicat!"

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tat a t!ac!$ (o +a* a'"o &! t! di$!cto$ (o%'d not &! #a$t of t! n!)otiatin) #$oc!""

fo$ "a'a$i!"- i" tat co$$!ct> B!in) t! di$!cto$ of t! ca$t!$ "coo'>

SENATOR SOOLA: I+ not "%$! if I can an"(!$ tat. I +!an o&/io%"'* *o%d

c!$tain'* &! #a$t of t! n!)otiatin) #$oc!"" fo$ *o%$ o(n "a'a$*.

SENATOR CONNOR: Ti" a+!nd+!nt I to%)t too, t! #!$"on (o (a" a

t!ac!$ (o (a" a'"o actin) a" t! di$!cto$ &%t (o%'d &! #aid a" a t!ac!$- o%t of t!

n!)otiation #$oc!"" fo$ "a'a$i!". Ot!$(i"! *o% (o%'d a/! t! di$!cto$J

SENATOR SOOLA: L!t +! a", a #!$"ona' #$i/i'!)! of t! f'oo$ Mada+

P$!"id!nt- fo$ L!o St$in!- Co%nci' to t! o/!$no$- to !'# +! an"(!$ t!"! %!"tion".

MADAM PRESIDENT: Si$ (o%'d *o% #'!a"! ta,! t! #odi%+ and "tat! *o%$

na+! and t! #o"ition *o% o'd.

LEO STRINE: L!o St$in!- Co%nci' to t! o/!$no$.

SENATOR CONNOR: M$. St$in! did *o% !a$ t! %!"tion tat I a",!d> Co%'d

*o% $!"#ond to it #'!a"!>

LEO STRINE: ?!" S!nato$. L!t +! %"t !=#'ain- t! o$i)in of t! a+!nd+!nt

ca+! and t!$! (!$! "o+! %!"tion" $ai"!d &!ca%"! a ca$t!$ "coo' !n/i"ion" tat

t!ac!$" (i'' "!$/! on t! &oa$d of di$!cto$". And tat o&/io%"'* #o"!" a $i", tat a

t!ac!$ (o%'d "it on t! d!ci"ion +a,in) &od*- (ic (o%'d a/! to n!)otiat! (it t!

co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) %nit.

T! a+!nd+!nt- (ic (a" c$aft!d (it t! !'# of t! atto$n!* (o $!#$!"!nt"

t! R!d C'a* Di"t$ict and "!/!$a' ot!$ "coo' di"t$ict" in t! t$i"tat! a$!a- (a" to c'a$if*

tat a t!ac!$ co%'d ind!!d &! a #a$t of a co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) %nit. T! t!ac!$ co%'d

"!$/!- a" i" t! ca"! %"%a''* (it t! ca$t!$ "coo' on t! &oa$d- "o 'on) a" (!n t!$!

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(!$! d!ci"ion" &!in) +ad! o$ di"c%""!d $!'ati/! to co''!cti/! &a$)ainin)- tat t! t!ac!$

$!c%"!d i+ o$ !$"!'f. And tatG" t! int!nt of ti" #$o/i"ion.

SENATOR CONNOR: O,a* tat an"(!$" +* %!"tion. L!t +! #o"! anot!$

%!"tion to *o%- if I +a*- a'on) t! 'in!" of co''!cti/! &a$)ainin). D!a'in) (it co''!cti/!

&a$)ainin)- on! of t! t!ac!$" of t! ca$t!$ "coo' co%'d &! t! di$!cto$ of t! ca$t!$

"coo'- co$$!ct>

LEO STRINE: Co%'d &!J

SENATOR CONNOR: T! di$!cto$ of t! ca$t!$ "coo'>

LEO STRINE: A di$!cto$ in t! "!n"! of a +!+&!$ of t! Boa$d of Di$!cto$" o$ a

di$!cto$ in t! "!n"! of t! #$inci#'! "coo' offic!$>

SENATOR CONNOR: T! di$!cto$ in t! "!n"! of t! #$inci#'! "coo' offic!$.

LEO STRINE: I tin, *o% co%'d "t$%ct%$! a ca$t!$ "coo'. ItG" d!"i)n!d to &!

f'!=i&'!. ?o% co%'d ca$t!$ a "coo' "o tat on! of t! t!ac!$" in fact #'a*!d tat $o'!.

SENATOR CONNOR: O,a*. In t! #$oc!"" of &!in) a di$!cto$ of tat "coo'

and a/in) t! co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) a)$!!+!nt &!fo$! t! indi/id%a'- t! )$i!/anc!

#$oc!d%$! tat no$+a''* i" in o#!$ation (it a co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) #$oc!d%$! ta,!" it"

no$+a' "t!#" of !"ca'ation t$o%) t! #$oc!"".

In ti" #$oc!"" %nd!$ tat "c!na$io tat (! %"t #aint!d- I "!! t! di$!cto$ i" "!$/in)

a" a %d)! in t! )$i!/anc! #$oc!d%$! o/!$ t! #$oc!d%$!" of co''!a)%!" in tat #$oc!"".

LEO STRINE: I tin, t!$! a$! in!/ita&'* ci$c%+"tanc!" (!$! "coo'

ad+ini"t$ato$" $i)t no( a$! "%&!ct to c!$tain action" and (ic a$! )oin) to &! $!/i!(!d

&* f!''o( "coo' ad+ini"t$ato$".

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T! $i", tat *o% #o"! I tin, i" on! tat (i'' &! and'!d at t! ca$t!$ "coo'

'!/!'. And t!$! a$! )oin) to &! ot!$ +!+&!$" of t! &oa$d of di$!cto$" and I tin, tat

t!* (i'' "t$%ct%$! t! $!'ation"i# t!$! to +ini+i! conf'ict" of int!$!"t". TatG" (at

ti" (a" d!"i)n!d to do. It do!"nGt #%$#o$t to an"(!$ !/!$* *#ot!tica' "it%ation tat

(i'' occ%$.

SENATOR CONNOR: No$+a''* "#!a,in) if *o% 'oo, at t! )$i!/anc! #$oc!d%$!

t! (a* itG" o%t'in!d- t! )$i!/anc! #$oc!d%$! ta,!" /a$io%" "t!#" to $!ac t! fina'

conc'%"ion. And on! of to"! "t!#" i" t! i++!diat! "%#!$/i"o$- (ic of co%$"! (o%'d

&! t! di$!cto$ in ti" ca"! of t! t!ac!$ (o i" a co''!a)%!- &!ca%"! t! di$!cto$ co%'d &!

a t!ac!$ a'"o.

So in t! ca"! of a )$i!/anc! #$oc!d%$!- (at IG+ #o"in) to *o% i" a co''!a)%!

!a$in) a )$i!/anc! #$oc!d%$! of anot!$ co''!a)%!@ (ic &a"ica''* i" a #!$"on (o fa''"

%nd!$ t! co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) a)$!!+!nt %d)in) "o+!&od* !'"! (o i" a'"o %nd!$ t!

co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) a)$!!+!nt.

MR. STRINE: Ri)t- &%t I tin, a)ain tatG" a "it%ation (!$! t! "coo' a" )ot

to "t$%ct%$! it" o(n $!'ation"i#. I tin, tat if a t!ac!$ i" in fact t! ci!f "coo' offic!$-

t! Ca$t!$ Scoo' Boa$d i" )oin) to &! /!$* ca$!f%' a&o%t d!finin) t! $o'!" and

$!"#on"i&i'iti!" of tat t!ac!$ in to"! ci$c%+"tanc!". T!*G$! )oin) to a/! to (o$,

(it t$aditiona' too'" 'i,! $!c%"a' and "!ttin) %# a )$i!/anc! #$oc!""- (ic a/oid" tat

,ind of conf'ict of int!$!"t.

SENATOR CONNOR: Ba"ica''* (at *o%G$! "a*in) i" tat t! "coo' di$!cto$"

t!+"!'/!" (o%'d a/! to- not "!t it %#- &%t n!)otiat! fo$ tat t*#! of a)$!!+!nt &!ca%"!

in t! co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) a)$!!+!nt it (o%'d &! n!)otiat!d t! (a* it (o%'d t%$n o%t.

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MR. STRINE: O,a* (!'' a'' t! Bi'' "a*"- (it $!"#!ct to co''!cti/! &a$)ainin)

a)$!!+!nt"- i" tat t! t!ac!$" at a ca$t!$ "coo' a/! t! "a+! $i)t to o$)ani!

t!+"!'/!" and co''!cti/!'* &a$)ain a" ot!$ t!ac!$". Tat (o%'d &! a n!)otiation

&!t(!!n t! Ca$t!$ Boa$d and t! &a$)ainin) %nit. T!* (o%'d a/! to "t$%ct%$! t!

$!'ation"i#.

T!$! a$! di"ci#'ina$* #$oc!"" )$i!/anc! #$oc!d%$!" I tin, tat !=i"t (it $!"#!ct

to ot!$ '!/!'" of ad+ini"t$ation in ot!$ ,ind" of !ntiti!" (!$! a /ic! #$inci#a' o$ an

a""i"tant #$inci#a'- o$ "o+!tin) 'i,! tat- i" &!in) "%&!ct to "o+! action and tat +a*

in/o'/! f!''o( ad+ini"t$ato$". I donGt tin, itG" tota''* %nca$t!$!d (at!$".

SENATOR CONNOR: !'' I tin, it i" %nca$t!$!d (at!$" (!n *o% ta', a&o%t

a t!ac!$ doin) t! )$i!/anc! #$oc!d%$! on anot!$ t!ac!$. Ba"ica''* IG/! "at in on +an*

of t!"! "it%ation". at *o%G$! facin) i" a co''!a)%! a)ain"t a co''!a)%!- and &!'i!/! +!

it do!"nGt (o$,.

T! ot!$ #$o/i"ion of it tat I (o%'d 'i,! to #o"! to *o% tat (i'' c$!at! a #$o&'!+

i" t! !/a'%ation #$oc!"" tat no$+a''* ta,!" #'ac!. In t! !/a'%ation #$oc!""- t! di$!cto$

of t! &%i'din) o$ t! di$!cto$ of t! #$o)$a+ i" t! on! (o !/a'%at!" ot!$". Onc! a)ain

*o% a/! a co''!a)%! !/a'%atin) a co''!a)%!@ tat a'"o do!" not (o$,.

IG+ t$o(in) t!"! fo$(a$d to *o% to +!ntion and to #%t ot!$" on a'!$t tat t!"!

"it%ation" a$! )oin) to c$!at! "o+! f$iction #oint" in t! #$oc!"" (!$! *o% a/!

co''!a)%! (o$,in) in t! !*!" of "o+! a)ain"t co''!a)%!.

MR. STRINE: B%t t! #$!+i"! of ca$t!$ "coo' '!)i"'ation i" tat #ot!ntia'

f$iction i" o%t(!i)!d &* t! &!n!fit" of a/in) a "coo' (ic a" +%c +o$!

in/o'/!+!nt f$o+ t!ac!$" and f$o+ #a$!nt" in o( t! "coo'G" o#!$ation" a$!

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"t$%ct%$!d. T!$!G" no do%&t tat it c$!at!" a diff!$!nt d*na+ic (!$! #a$!nt" and

t!ac!$" a$! +%c +o$! #a$t of t! +ana)!+!nt. B%t tatG" #a$t of t! #$!+i"! of ca$t!$

"coo' '!)i"'ation.

SENATOR CONNOR: !'' (!n *o% $!ac into and *o% "ta$t to ta', a&o%t

di"ci#'ina$* #$oc!d%$!"- *o% !nt!$ into a n!( dia'o)%! tatG" fo$ "%$! tatG" diff!$!nt.

!n *o% "ta$t a/in) on! +!+&!$ of a co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) a)$!!+!nt (o i"

$!#$!"!nt!d &* t! A""ociation and anot!$ +!+&!$ (o i" a'"o $!#$!"!nt!d &* t!

A""ociation- on! )$i!/in)- t! ot!$ di"ci#'inin)- &ot $!#$!"!nt!d &* t! "a+!

o$)aniation- *o% not on'* a/! conf'ict *o% a/! cao". I a/! no f%$t!$ %!"tion".

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nato$ Sti''.

SENATOR STILL: Tan, *o%. M$. St$in! on #a)! on! of t! a+!nd+!nt 'in!"

14 K 16 d!a'" (it 'in!" 444 K 447 of t! Bi'' and it a##!a$" to a/! !'i+inat!d "o+!

)!n!$ic 'an)%a)! #%$"%ant to t! "!ction in t! Stat! Boa$d. IG+ (ond!$in) (at (!G$!

$!a''* t$*in) to do in ti" "!ction !$! of t! a+!nd+!nt.

MR. STRINE: I can !=#'ain tat !a"i'* S!nato$. T! id!a !$!- and it (a"

!=#$!""!d &* 'oca' &oa$d"- (a" tat if a ca$t!$ a##'ication ca+! fo$(a$d to t!+ t$o%)

a 'oca' &oa$d and a 'oca' &oa$d !=!$ci"!" %d)+!nt #%$"%ant to t! Stat%t! and d!t!$+in!"

not to i""%! a ca$t!$- tat "o%'d &! t! fina' !ndin) #oint (it $!"#!ct to tat

a##'ication. Tat ca$t!$ a##'icant "o%'d not t!n )o to t! Stat! Boa$d fo$ "o$t of

a'+o"t an a##!a' of t! 'oca' &oa$d d!ci"ion. And tat (a" (!$! tat a+!nd+!nt ca+!

f$o+. T! 'oca' &oa$d" f!'t /!$* "t$on)'* a&o%t tat.

Onc! t!* ad !=!$ci"!d t!i$ %d)+!nt a" a 'oca' &oa$d- #%$"%ant to t! Stat%t!-

tat "o%'d &! $!"#!ct!d and t! Stat! Boa$d "o%'d not act a" a d! facto a##!''ant &od*.

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SENATOR STILL: I (o%'d a""%+! tat %nd!$ )!n!$a' "tat%t!" tat tat

indi/id%a' if t!* f!!' "o a))$i!/!d (o%'d "ti'' a/! a #$oc!"" to )o t$o%) t! co%$t

"*"t!+>

MR. STRINE: Not %nd!$ ti" Bi'' a" (! $!ad it. Ti" i" "o+!on! #$o#o"in) to

ca$t!$ a "coo'. T!*G/! )on! to a 'oca' "coo' &oa$d and t! 'oca' "coo' &oa$d a"

!=!$ci"!d it" %d)+!nt #%$"%ant to t! Stat%t! and a" "aid tat (! donGt &!'i!/! it +!!t"

t! c$it!$ia in t! Stat%t!.

Ti" a+!nd+!nt (o%'d $!"#!ct tat 'oca'G" d!ci"ion.

SENATOR STILL: A'' $i)t "o t!$! i" no #$oc!"" &!*ond ti" "t!# t!n>

MR. STRINE: Ri)t. If t! 'oca' &oa$d "a*" no at tat #oint tat (o%'d &! it

SENATOR STILL: I" tat t! "tanda$d #$oc!"" in ot!$ ca$t!$ "coo'">

MR. STRINE: T!$! i" no !=act "tanda$d #$oc!"" in ot!$ ca$t!$ "coo'

'!)i"'ation tat IG/! "!!n (it $!"#!ct to (at !ntit* can ca$t!$ "coo'". Stat!" a$! a''

o/!$ t! #'ac!- (!t!$ itG" on'* 'oca' "coo' di"t$ict"- %"t a "tat! &oa$d- o$ %"t 'oca'

"coo' di"t$ict".

SENATOR STILL: So t!$!G" no $!co%$"! to )o &ac, to t! Stat! Boa$d to

o/!$$%'! t!n>

MR. STRINE: No not in tat "it%ation (!$! t!*G/! )on! t$o%) t! 'oca'

#$oc!"".

SENATOR STILL: A'' $i)t. So t! 'oca' #$oc!"" of !"ta&'i"in) a ca$t!$

t$o%) t! a##'ication #$oc!"" do!" not a/! an* d%! #$oc!"" a&o/! and &!*ond t!

'oca' &oa$d onc! tat 'oca' &oa$d !"ta&'i"!" it"!'f and "!t" in +otion t! a##'ication>

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MR. STRINE: Ti" i" not d!"i)n!d to f%$t!$ 'iti)ation a" +%c a" an atto$n!*

+i)t 'i,! to do tat. Ti" i" d!"i)n!d to !nco%$a)! con"!n"%a' $!'ation"i#" &!t(!!n

'oca' &oa$d" and )$o%#" tat (ant to ca$t!$ a "coo'. Not to a/! a cont!ntio%"

!n/i$on+!nt "%$$o%ndin) t! fo$+ation.

SENATOR STILL: IG+ t$*in) to %nd!$"tand o( fa$ (! can )o if (!G$! not

a##* (it o%$ ca$t!$ and (! donGt )!t it a##$o/!d@ (!$! it di!" and (!$! it )i/!"

&i$t a)ain. Pa)! 2 of t! a+!nd+!nt- 'in! 20- d!a'" (it a "!ction of t! Bi'' 368 K 372@

I canGt t!'' f$o+ ti" a+!nd+!nt if t! a$&it$ato$G" d!ci"ion "a'' &! fina' and &indin)

%#on t! #a$ti!"- a" &!!n '!ft in o$ ta,!n o%t>

MR. STRINE: TatG" &!!n '!ft.

SENATOR STILL: Tat $!+ain" in. T!n (at i" it tat (!G/! $!a''* can)!d in

tat #$a"!o'o)*> I cannot "!! an* can)!".

MR. STRINE: atG" $!a''* &!!n can)!d i" tat in t! S!nat! S%&"tit%t! a"

o$i)ina''* int$od%c!d- in"t!ad of )oin) to a$&it$ation- a ca$t!$ "coo' (ic a" ad it"

ca$t!$ $!/o,!d &* a 'oca' "coo' &oa$d co%'d a##'* di$!ct'* to t! Stat! Boa$d fo$ a

ca$t!$. Ti" i" con"i"t!nt (it t! #$io$ a+!nd+!nt (ic (o%'d "a*- no tatG" not t!

ca"!. If a 'oca' &oa$d a" +ad! it" d!ci"ion- *o%G'' a/! $!co%$"! t$o%) t! a$&it$ation

#$oc!"" %nd!$ t! Bi''- &%t t!$! (i'' &! no d! facto a##!a' of a d!ci"ion +ad! &* a 'oca'

&oa$d to t! Stat! Boa$d of Ed%cation.

SENATOR STILL: So t! Stat! Boa$d &a"ica''* i" o%t of ti" #$oc!"">

MR. STRINE: E=c!#t (it $!"#!ct to ca$t!$ a##'ication" fi'!d di$!ct'* (it it.

SENATOR STILL: O,a*. D!#!ndin) on *o%$ #oint of /i!(- tat co%'d &! )ood

o$ &ad. L!t +! %"t "!! !$!. Bac, to #a)! 1- 'in! 7 K 8 d!a'" (it 'in! 142 of t! Bi''. I

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(ant to +a,! "%$! I %nd!$"tand ti". Ti" (o'! #$oc!"" !$! $!a''* do!" not d!a' (it

di"ci#'ina$* #$oc!!din)"@ it "o'!'* d!a'" (it f$o+ (at I can )at!$ !$!- t!

!"ta&'i"+!nt of t! ca$t!$ in t! &a$)ainin) %nit>

MR. STRINE: ?!".

SENATOR STILL: So$$* *o% donGt a/! a co#* of t! Bi''>

MR. STRINE: No I a/! t! a+!nd+!nt S!nato$. It d!a'" (it t! &a$)ainin)

%nit at t! ca$t!$ "coo'.

SENATOR STILL: TatG" "o'!'* (at it d!a'" (it !$!>

MR. STRINE: ?!". And itG" d!"i)n!d to a/oid conf'ict" of int!$!"t &!ca%"! a

ca$t!$ "coo' &oa$d co%'d contain t!ac!$".

SENATOR STILL: i'' t! "a+! t!ac!$ (o i" a'"o a &oa$d +!+&!$ a'"o &!

#$!c'%d!d in t! f%t%$! f$o+ di"ci#'ina$* #$oc!!din)" and )$i!/anc! !a$in)"> O$ i" ti"

i""%! "o'!'* )oin) to &! d!a't (it !$! at t! ti+! of t! &a$)ainin) #$oc!"">

MR. STRINE: ItG" #$i+a$i'* int!nd!d to d!a' (it t!$+" and condition" of

co+#!n"ation. ?o% donGt (ant to %nd%'* a+#!$ a ca$t!$ "coo'.

A ca$t!$ "coo' i" )oin) to in/o'/! #a$!nt" and t!ac!$" on a &oa$d. T!* a$!

)oin) to "a#! t!i$ #$oc!"" fo$ di"ci#'inin) "t%d!nt" o$ o'din) fac%'t* acco%nta&'! at t!

ca$t!$ "coo' '!/!'.

T! #a$!nt" on a &oa$d co%'d a/! "it%ation" (!$! t!*G'' a/! to $!c%"! &!ca%"!

t!i$ n!=t doo$ n!i)&o$G" ,id i" t! ,id (oG" &!in) di"ci#'in!d &* t! "coo'. Ti" (a"

d!"i)n!d to "a*- "i+#'* &!ca%"! a t!ac!$ i" on t! &oa$d of di$!cto$" of t! ca$t!$

"coo'@ t!* donGt a/! to &! !=c'%d!d f$o+ t!i$ &a$)ainin) %nit.


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SENATOR STILL: I %nd!$"tand a'' tat. B%t t! %!"tion (a"- and t! Bi'' i"

"i'!nt on t! i""%!- (o%'d ti" "a+! t!ac!$ (o i" a &oa$d +!+&!$- t!$!fo$!- &!

#$!c'%d!d f$o+ an* )$i!/anc! !a$in)" o$ di"ci#'ina$* !a$in)"> And "inc! itG" "i'!nt on

t! Bi''- I (o%'d a/! to a""%+! tat t!*G$! not.

MR. STRINE: I tin, tat (o%'d $!a''* &! +o$! a +att!$ fo$ t! &oa$d to "a#!

fo$ it"!'f. B%t t!* "ti'' +a* %nd!$ &oa$d $%'!" and %nd!$ t!i$ o(n #!$"ona' "!n"! of

!tic" a/! to $!c%"! in #a$tic%'a$ "it%ation".

SENATOR STILL: So tat d!ci"ion i" '!ft to t! &oa$d "inc! t! Bi'' i" "i'!nt.

Tan, *o%.


SENATOR SOOLA: Mada+ P$!"id!nt if t!$! a$! no f%$t!$ %!"tion"- IGd 'i,!

to a", t! (itn!"" &! !=c%"!d.

MADAM PRESIDENT: IG+ "o$$* I co%'dnGt %nd!$"tand *o% S!nato$ So,o'a.

SENATOR SOOLA: IGd 'i,! to a", t! (itn!"" &! !=c%"!d.

MADAM PRESIDENT: ito%t o&!ction t! (itn!"" i" !=c%"!d. S!nato$

So,o'a.

SENATOR SOOLA: Do I a/! an*+o$! %!"tion" on t! a+!nd+!nt>

Mada+ P$!"id!nt IG/! &!!n info$+!d tat on 'in! 3 of t! a+!nd+!nt it "a*"

Ha/ai'a&'! to "t%d!nt" #%$"%ant to a #%&'ic "coo' #$o)$a+. ! n!)'!ct!d to #%t t!

(o$d Hcoic! in t!$!. T!$! i" an a+!nd+!nt tat i" co+in) %# fo$ tat. So at ti" ti+!

IGd 'i,! to 'a* S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 4 on t! ta&'!.

MADAM PRESIDENT: ito%t o&!ction S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 4 fo$ S!nat!

S%&"tit%t! 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" 'aid on t! ta&'!. S!nato$ So,o'a.

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SENATOR SOOLA: At ti" ti+! IGd 'i,! to a", tat S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 1

to S!nat! Bi'' 200 &! $!ad and &$o%)t &!fo$! t! S!nat!.


A+!nd+!nt No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 &* tit'! on'*.

MR. READIN CLER: S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 1 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 to

S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" "#on"o$!d &* S!nato$ So,o'a. Mada+ P$!"id!nt ti" conc'%d!" t!

$!adin) of S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 1 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 to S!nat! Bi'' No. 200.


So,o'a.

SENATOR SOOLA: Mada+ P$!"id!nt- M!+&!$" of t! S!nat!- ti"

a+!nd+!nt co/!$" fi/! #oint". T! fi$"t #oint $!%i$!" a ca$t!$ "coo' to fo''o( t!

"a+! t!ac!$ c!$tification $!%i$!+!nt a" ot!$ "coo' di"t$ict" and "coo'". at tat

do!" i" it $!%i$!" tat t!ac!$" &! c!$tifi!d o$ tat t! ca$t!$ #!tition t! Stat!

S%#!$int!nd!nt fo$ a (ai/!$ o$ a 'i+it!d t!$+ c!$tification fo$ a #!$"#!cti/! t!ac!$.

T! "!cond tin) it do!" i" it #$o/id!" fo$ a /ot! of t!ac!$" and #a$!nt" to con/!$t

a #%&'ic "coo' to a ca$t!$ "coo'.

T! ti$d tin) it do!" i" it #$oi&it" t! #$i/at! o$ #a$ocia' "coo' f$o+

con/!$tin) to ca$t!$ "tat%".

T! fo%$t tin) ti" a+!nd+!nt do!" i" it #$o/id!" t! !=#%'"ion f$o+ a ca$t!$

"coo'@ a" t! "a+! !ff!ct fo$ #%$#o"!" of !=#%'"ion f$o+ a $!)%'a$ "coo'.

Ti" i" a Bi'' tat (! did %"t a co%#'! of *!a$" a)o. ItG" in Tit'! 13. ! did not

int!nd to '!a/! it o%t &%t it (a"nGt "#!cifica''* '!ft in and (!n (! (ai/!d o%$ $!)%'ation"

to Tit'! 13 (! f!'t tat (! ad to co+! &ac, and can)! tat.

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T! fift tin) i" it #$o/id!" tat a ca$t!$ "coo' cannot a""!"" f!!" tat a$! not

#!$+itt!d to &! ca$)!d &* ot!$ "coo' di"t$ict".

IG'' &! a##* to !nt!$tain an* %!"tion".


SENATOR BAIR: Tan, *o% Mada+ P$!"id!nt. I a/! +ao$ #$o&'!+" (it t!

fi$"t t(o #$o/i"ion" of ti" a+!nd+!nt and '!t +! di"c%"" ti" (it *o%. I /!$* +%c

"%##o$t ca$t!$ "coo'"@ I tin, itG" a /!$* no/!' and int!$!"tin) id!a. I a/! don!- I +%"t

ad+it "o+! 'i+it!d $!adin) on t! "%&!ct@ &%t it "!!+" to +! to &! a (a* to #$o/id!

"o+! $!a' inno/ation (itin t! #%&'ic "coo' "*"t!+.

I (o%'d c!$tain'* a)$!! tat I (o%'d not (ant to "!! #%&'ic f%nd" &!in) %"!d to

con/!$t a #$i/at! o$ a #a$ocia' "coo' into a ca$t!$ "coo'. B%t I tin, if t! ca$t!$

"coo' conc!#t i" a $!a''* int!$!"tin) id!a t!n (! c!$tain'* o%)t to t$* it.

On! of t! tin)" tat I tin, i" )oin) to +a,! a ca$t!$ "coo' (o$, and &!

inno/ati/! i" t! o##o$t%nit* to &$in) into t! c'a""$oo+ #!o#'! (o a$! not n!c!""a$i'*

c!$tifi!d a" t!ac!$". ! do not a/! an a't!$nati/! c!$tification #$oc!"" in #'ac!.

i'! IG/! ad "o+! $!a' &ad !=#!$i!nc!" &$in)in) c!+i"t" o%t of a 'a&o$ato$*

into t! c'a""$oo+" to t!ac &!ca%"! not a'' of t!+ a$! )ood t!ac!$"- I (o%'d o#! tat

(! (o%'d #!$+it in t! c'a""$oo+ #!o#'! (o &$in) in ta'!nt" and ",i''" (o a$! not

n!c!""a$i'* c!$tifi!d. I tin, (at o%)t to &! t! )%id!'in! i" t!i$ a&i'it* to t!ac- to

t$an"f!$ t! ",i''" and t! ta'!nt" tat t!* a/! to t! "t%d!nt".

T! !ff!ct of t! fi$"t #a$t of ti" a+!nd+!nt i" to $!%i$! &a"ica''* tat a''

t!ac!$" &! c!$tifi!d. I tin, (at +a,!" a ca$t!$ "coo' $!a''* %ni%! a)ain i" t!

a&i'it* to &$in) #!o#'! into t! c'a""$oo+ tat a/! "o+! diff!$!nt ,ind" of ",i''" to off!$.

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T! "!cond #$o/i"ion of t! a+!nd+!nt- (ic $!%i$!" t! a##$o/a' of 50

#!$c!nt of t! t!ac!$" and 50 #!$c!nt of t! #a$!nt"- (ic co%#'!d (it t! fi$"t #a$t of

ti" a+!nd+!nt- !ff!cti/!'* ,i''" ca$t!$ "coo'".

!G$! not )oin) to a/! an* ca$t!$ "coo'" in t! Stat! of D!'a(a$! if (!G/! )ot

to )!t a'' ti" a##$o/a'. T! a##$o/a' i" don! &* t! 'oca' "coo' di"t$ict". ! a/! in

A+!nd+!nt 4 t! #$o/i"ion tat if a 'oca' "coo' di"t$ict "a*" no- t!* canGt )o $%nnin)

off to t! Stat! Boa$d and a", fo$ #!$+i""ion. I tin, t!"! t(o #$o/i"ion" a$! )oin) to

,i'' ca$t!$ "coo'".

And (at a##!n" in t! "!cond #a$t of t! "!cond f%$t!$ a+!nd- "%c a##$o/a'

"o%'d not &! $!%i$!d (!$! a di"t$ict &oa$dJ on and onJ a'$!ad* a##$o/!d a" t!

!ff!cti/!J and (at ti" do!" i" "a/!" i'+in)ton


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S!cond'* tatG" +%c $!'at!d to tat@ it i" a t$a%+a to c'o"! a "coo'. C'a*+ont


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(it co+#%t!$" and t!cno'o)* and co++%nication" at a '!/!' tat t!* (!$! n!/!$

in/o'/!d in (!n I (a" )oin) to "coo'.

I &!'i!/! tat (it $!a"on!d #!o#'! (o$,in) to)!t!$ (! can %"! &ot of t!"! a"

#o"iti/!" fo$ t! Bi''. F$an,'* I (a"nGt co+#'!t!'* co+fo$ta&'!. I (o%'d a/! 'i,!d to

a/! "!!n "o+!tin) !'"! (it it!+ 1. B%t t! fact of t! +att!$ i" (! %"t #a""!d t! Bi''

21 K 0. It d!a't (it I &!'i!/! 'and"ca#! a$cit!ct".

! $!%i$! a 'ic!n"%$! fo$ tin)" 'i,! #!o#'! (o c%t o%$ ai$- #!o#'! (o #'ant

&%"!"- #!o#'! (o do a'' "o$t" of tin)" 'i,! tat. And I c!$tain'* tin, tat (! o%)t to

&! a&'! to "o( ca%"! to "o+! #%&'ic !ntit* tat if t!$! i" a (ai/!$ of c!$tification

n!c!""a$* fo$ t!ac!$" in ti" "coo'.


SENATOR BAIR: Tan, *o% Mada+ P$!"id!nt. I $!a''* 'i,! t! Bi'' t! (a* it

(a" o$i)ina''* ($itt!n. Tat #!$+itt!d a 'ot +o$! f'!=i&i'it* in ti" #$oc!"". Bot of +*

,id" a/! )$ad%at!d f$o+ i) "coo' &* no(. B%t if I ad ci'd$!n in t! "*"t!+ I (o%'d

$!a''* (ant to &! a&'! to ta# into "o+! !=t!nt- I +!an not to t! !=t!nt of 100 #!$c!nt of

t! t!ac!$" "o%'d &! nonc!$tifi!d- &%t (it t! ta'!nt" tat +an* #!o#'! in t!

co++%nit* a/! I tin, t! ",i'' of t!acin) i" "o+!tin) tat i" a&"o'%t!'* $!%i$!d. And

on! (o%'d o#! tat t! #!o#'! "!ttin) %# t! ca$t!$ "coo' (o%'d a/! !no%) "!n"! to

+a,! c!$tain tat t! indi/id%a' (!t!$ it i" an a$ti"t- (!t!$ it i" an a$cit!ct- i" a&'! to

t!ac ,id".

TatG" notin) tat an*&od* off t! "t$!!t can do. I +!an I ad "o+! $!a' &ad

!=#!$i!nc!" &$in)in) "o+! c!+i"t" in f$o+ ind%"t$* into +* c'a""$oo+- !/!n at t!

co''!)! '!/!'- and "o+! of t!+ (!$! $!a''* a(f%'.

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!G$! )oin) to 'o"! to"! #!o#'! if (! )o to (at I "!! a" a'+o"t 100 #!$c!nt

c!$tification. B!ca%"! fo$ !/!$*&od* to )o t$o%) to"! oo#" of )!ttin) "#!cia'

di"#!n"ation i" $!a''* (at it a+o%nt" to f$o+ t! Stat! Boa$d- i" tat (!G$! not )oin) to

a/! /!$* +an* nonc!$tifi!d t!ac!$".

I tin, t! 65 #!$c!nt 'i+it (a" a $!a"ona&'! 'i+it. And +* #$o&'!+ i"

#a$tic%'a$'* tat (! donGt a/! a #$oc!"" fo$ a't!$nati/! c!$tification in #'ac!. I +!an ti"

Bi'' do!" not )o into !ff!ct fo$ a *!a$ and I a/! a&"o'%t!'* no confid!nc! at a'' tat (!G$!

)oin) to a/! in #'ac! an a't!$nati/! c!$tification +!todo'o)*. If (! did- I (o%'dnGt

a/! t! conc!$n tat I a/! (it ti" 'an)%a)! tat &a"ica''* $!%i$!" 100 #!$c!nt of t!

t!ac!$" to &! c!$tifi!d.

I +!an can)! and doin) tin)" a 'itt'! diff!$!nt'* i" a'(a*" diffic%'t fo$ an*

!"ta&'i"+!nt. B%t if (!G$! )oin) to &! a&'! to i+#$o/! o%$ #%&'ic "coo' "*"t!+- and

IG+ /!$* d!dicat!d to doin) tat- I tin, (! a/! to a/! t! o##o$t%nit* fo$ "o+!

inno/ation.

If (!G$! )oin) to c%t t! 'in! and "a* *o% a/! to &! c!$tifi!d &!fo$! *o% can )o

into a ca$t!$ "coo'- I tin, (!G$! )oin) to &! +i""in) o%t on an a(f%' 'ot of ta'!nt o%t

t!$! in t! co++%nit* tat (o%'d &! a/ai'a&'! to t!"! "coo'" to #$o/id! t! ,ind of

inno/ation tat (! $!a''* n!!d.

A" I "aid &!fo$!- ti" a+!nd+!nt $!a''* )%t" t! Bi''.


SENATOR SOOLA: Mada+ P$!"id!nt a)ain I &!'i!/! tat it i" a##$o#$iat! to

con"id!$ t! fact tat t!* can )o fo$ a (ai/!$. In fact ti" ,ind of a+!nd+!nt do!" add a

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'!/!' of #$ot!ction in tat *o%G$! not )oin) to &! a&'! to n!c!""a$i'* i$! in"id!$" to do

tin)" tat t!* "o%'dnGt &! doin).

So+!&od* (o a" "o+! "#!cia' ",i'' (i'' &! )!ttin) anot!$ '!/!' of "c$%tin* tat

in fact (i'' #$ot!ct I &!'i!/! t! #%&'ic in/!"t+!nt. And it i" a #%&'ic in/!"t+!nt tat (i''

&! )oin) to(a$d" t!"! #o"ition" of !+#'o*+!nt in t!"! ca$t!$ "coo'".

A'"o IGd 'i,! to #oint o%t tat fo$ in"tanc! in t! Vi$)inia +od!' tat S!nato$ R!!d

"a$!d (it +!- an* (ai/!$ of $!)%'ation (o%'d a/! $!%i$!d &ot t! ca$t!$ and t!

"#on"o$in) !ntit* to $!%!"t tat (ai/!$.

In ti" #a$tic%'a$ Bi''- (! )$ant a n%+&!$ of (ai/!$" %# f$ont. Ti" #a$tic%'a$

(ai/!$- a'"o t! (ai/!$ fo$ t!ac!$ c!$tification in tat +od!' a" an !=a+#'!- (o%'d a/!

to co+! f$o+ &ot t! "#on"o$in) a%to$it* and t! ca$t!$.

"#on"o$in) &oa$d and t! ca$t!$ to )o to t! S%#!$int!nd!nt. ! )i/! tat &oa$d t!

f'!=i&i'it* and t! a%to$it* to )o di$!ct'* to t! Stat! to a", fo$ tat (ai/!$.

TatG" a 'ot of f'!=i&i'it* and tat a" #ot!ntia' to !'# ti" Bi'' in t! ca"! (!$!

(! a$! !nco%$a)in) inno/ation to &! a&'! to "%##'* a "coo' tat i"nGt inno/ati/! (it

a##$o#$iat!'* #$!#a$!d #!o#'! to t!ac.


SENATOR STILL: Tan, *o% Mada+ P$!"id!nt. Fo$ t! "#on"o$- S!nato$

So,o'a in t! fi$"t "!ction of t! Bi'' I %"t a/! "o+! &a"ic %!"tion". If I %nd!$"tand t!

c!$tification #$oc!""- a t!ac!$ (o i" not c!$tifi!d &%t int!nd" to &!co+! c!$tifi!d- a"

a&o%t a 46 +ont (indo( to ac%i$! tat c!$tification in c!$tain ci$c%+"tanc!">

SENATOR SOOLA: TatG" co$$!ct.

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SENATOR STILL: * i" t!$! no #$o/i"ion ($itt!n into t! Bi'' fo$ a't!$nati/!

c!$tification> ItG" "i'!nt on t! i""%!.

SENATOR SOOLA: A't!$nati/! c!$tification i" a #$oc!"" tat i" in a /!$*

d*na+ic #a$t of it" #$oc!"" $i)t no(. ItG" &!!n di"c%""!d. S!nato$ So$!n"on ,no(" /!$*

+%c a&o%t ti"@ "! "!$/!d on t! P$of!""iona' Standa$d" Co%nci' fo$ t(o *!a$" (it +!.

I &!'i!/! t!*G$! /!$* c'o"! to )!ttin) a fo$+a' a't!$nati/! $o%t! #'an to c!$tification.

T!$! (i'' &! a +!!tin) n!=t !dn!"da* +o$nin) at B%!na Vi"ta tat i" "#on"o$!d &* t!

"%&co++itt!! of t! P$of!""iona' Standa$d" Co%nci'. T!*G$! &$in)in) in a #!$"on

(oG" in/o'/!d in (atG" con"id!$!d to &! a /!$* "%cc!""f%' +od!'.

T!* (ant to &%i'd off t! "%cc!""!" and not n!c!""a$i'* a/! to $!in/!nt t!

(!!'. If (! can find "o+!tin) tatG" (o$,in)- I tin, (! o%)t to &! a&'! to %"! it.

SENATOR STILL: I" it t! int!nt of t! Bi'' t$o%) it" "i'!nc! to #$!c'%d!

a't!$nati/! c!$tification o$ to a''o( it>

SENATOR SOOLA: A&"o'%t!'* not.

SENATOR STILL: A&"o'%t!'* not (at>

SENATOR SOOLA: A&"o'%t!'* not to #$!c'%d! it. It i" t! int!nt to a''o( it.

SENATOR STILL: O,a*. Und!$ 'in! 8 do(n t$o%) 16- (ic i" anot!$

"!ction tatG" a+!nd!d- t! ca$t!$ a##'ication $!c!i/!" a##$o/a' of o/!$ 50 #!$c!nt of t!

t!ac!$" and o/!$ 50 #!$c!nt of t! #a$!nt" of "t%d!nt" !n$o''!d in "coo'. No( if I $!ad

tat c'!a$'* it !=c'%d!" ta= #a*!$" (o do not a/! ci'd$!n@ &%t (o #a* fo$ t! "coo'

"*"t!+.

SENATOR SOOLA: Ti" i" &a"!d on t! Rand Mod!' tat %"!" a "%#!$+ao$it*

of t! t!ac!$" and of t! #a$!nt". TatG" &a"ica''* (!$! (! )ot it. I (o%'d a$)%! tat

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*!" t! ta=#a*!$" do a/! a $o'!- &%t t!* (ant to "!! "o+!tin) tat t! #!o#'! (o a$!

in/o'/!d in t! "coo' (ant to a/! o(n!$"i# of. I (o%'d tin, if *o% can )!t a +ao$it*

of #!o#'! to "i)n off- t!n itG" t! ,ind of tin) tat t! ta=#a*!$" (o%'d &! "%##o$ti/! of.

In fact $i)t no( t!$! i" no "%c $!%i$!+!nt to con/!$t a "coo' tatG" fo$

in"tanc! a +idd'! "coo'- to a i) "coo'- o$ a i) "coo' to a +idd'! "coo' o$ to c'o"!

on! do(n co+#'!t!'*. T!$! i" no "i)n off of t! 'oca' ta=#a*!$" to do "%c a tin).

An* +ao$ can)! to a 'oca' "coo' can &! a #ot!ntia''* t$a%+atic tin) and t!*

%"t (ant to a/! ti" '!/!' of #$ot!ction- tat t!$! i" a '!/!' of "%##o$t &!fo$! "%c a

con/!$"ion i" +ad!.

SENATOR STILL: I %nd!$"tand *o%$ co++!nt" S!nato$ &%t t! fact of t!

+att!$ i" &!ca%"! of t! 'an)%a)! !$! an* ta=#a*!$ (o cont$i&%t!" t$o%) #$o#!$t*

ta=!" o$ "tat! ta=!"- &%t (o do!" not a/! a ci'd in t! "coo' "*"t!+- i" #$!c'%d!d f$o+

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SENATOR STILL: I tin, t! Bi'' co%'d &! a 'itt'! c'!a$. I %nd!$"tand (at *o%$

int!nt i"- &%t it i" not c'!a$ on tat.

L!t +! +a,! "%$! I %nd!$"tand ti" !$!. Und!$ t! c%$$!nt 'a( if I do a

co+#a$ati/! (it t! $!f!$!nd%+ #$oc!""- it (i'' &! i''!)a' fo$ +! to !=c'%d! an*on!

(oG" a &onafid! ta=#a*!$ and (o d!cid!" tat t!*G$! !'i)i&'! and +!!t" to"!

!'i)i&i'it* $!%i$!+!nt" to /ot! in t! $!f!$!nd%+.

If ti" Bi'' "a*" tat o/!$ 50 #!$c!nt of t! t!ac!$" and o/!$ 50 #!$c!nt of t!

#a$!nt" of "t%d!nt" !n$o''!d at t! "coo'- )i/!n a 40 da* notic!- can att!nd a +!!tin) and

/ot!. No( if I $!ad tat /!$* c'!a$'*- IG+ a ta=#a*!$ &%t I donGt a/! a ci'd in ti"

"coo'- I canGt /ot!>

SENATOR SOOLA: !G$! not a",in) #!o#'! to $ai"! ta=!" !$! (!G$!J

SENATOR STILL: TatG" not +* %!"tion. ItG" a *!" o$ no an"(!$.

SENATOR SOOLA: Jand $i)t no( no&od* (o%'d a/! a $i)t to /ot! if t!

Scoo' Boa$d d!cid!d to c'o"! a &%i'din) do(n o$ to con/!$t it f$o+ a +idd'! "coo' to

an !'!+!nta$* "coo'.

SENATOR STILL: TatG" not t! %!"tion "i$. If I a" a ta=#a*!$- I canGt /ot! fo$

o$ a)ain"t ti" #$o#o"a'. I a/! to a/! a ci'd in t! "coo' to &! !'i)i&'! to /ot!>


SENATOR STILL: O,a*. I %"t (ant to %nd!$"tand t! #$o#o"a' tatG" a''. L!t

+! )o o/!$ !$! to t! n!=t #a)!. Lin! 17 K 24 I a""%+! !=#%'"ion" f$o+ ca$t!$ "coo'"

(o%'d +a,! t! ci'd$!n !'i)i&'! fo$ o%$ a't!$nati/! "coo'" #$o)$a+. I a""%+! tatG" t!

int!nt of t! Bi''>

SENATOR SOOLA: I &!'i!/! tatG" co$$!ct.

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SENATOR STILL: O,a*. I donGt a/! a #$o&'!+ (it tat #a$t of it at a''. at

i" t! &a"i" fo$ #$!c'%din) a #a$ocia' "coo' o$ a #$i/at! "coo' f$o+ con/!$tin) to a

ca$t!$ "coo'>

SENATOR SOOLA: In t! o$i)ina' Bi'' ti" (a" "%))!"t!d@ ti" i" act%a''* #a$t

of t! Rand Mod!' to a''o( fo$ "%c a con/!$"ion.


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o$ t! RIF #$oc!d%$!"> I" tat to &! '!ft %# to t! 'oca' "coo' &oa$d to d!cid! tat o$ i"

tat not a''o(!d onc! *o% i$! "o+!on!>

Tat "o%'d &! 'in! 124 of t! o$i)ina' Bi'' and I &!'i!/! it ta,!" tat o%t.

SENATOR SOOLA: IG'' t$* to an"(!$ ti" in cont!=t !$!.

SENATOR STILL: ?!" "i$. It "a*" !$! d!'!t! t! (o$d" $!d%ction in fo$c! on

'in! 124 #a)! 5.


SENATOR STILL: So it "a*" !$! Ha/ai'a&'! to t!+ %nd!$ and tatG" "t$ic,!n

o%t- "o (!G'' %"t "a* Ha/ai'a&'! to t!+ %nd!$ t! #$o/i"ion" of t!i$ co''!cti/!

&a$)ainin) a)$!!+!nt. So i" a $!d%ction in fo$c!- (!t!$ itG" n!!d!d o$ not- #$!c'%d!d>

SENATOR SOOLA: ?!" tat (o%'d &! %nd!$ t! #$o/i"ion" of t!i$ co''!cti/!

&a$)ainin) a)$!!+!nt- (ic (o%'d #$o&a&'* &! a $!d%ction in fo$c! #$o/i"ion. B%t

a##a$!nt'* tatG" not n!c!""a$i'* t! ca"! in !/!$* cont$act.

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nato$ Sa$#.

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SENATOR SOOLA: No( I a", tat S!nat! S%&"tit%t! 1 to S!nat! Bi'' No. 200

&! 'aid on t! ta&'!.

MADAM PRESIDENT: ito%t o&!ction" S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat!

Bi'' No. 200 i" 'aid on t! ta&'!. S!nato$ Sa$#.

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SENATOR SOOLA: Mada+ P$!"id!nt- do I a/! to 'ift t! a+!nd+!nt a'"o in

a "!#a$at! #$oc!d%$!>

MADAM PRESIDENT: No.

SENATOR SOOLA: O,a* I (o%'d 'i,! to 'ift S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 1 to

S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 to S!nat! Bi'' No. 200.

MADAM PRESIDENT: M$. R!adin) C'!$, fo$ t! #%$#o"! of 'iftin) f$o+ t!

ta&'! (o%'d *o% #'!a"! $!ad S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 1 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$

S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 &* tit'! on'*.


fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200- "#on"o$!d &* S!nato$ So,o'a. Mada+ P$!"id!nt ti" conc'%d!"

t! $!adin) of S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 1 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No.

200.


S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" 'ift!d f$o+ t! ta&'!. M$. R!adin) C'!$,

(o%'d *o% #'!a"! $!ad S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 1 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat!

Bi'' No. 200 &* tit'! on'*.

SENATOR SOOLA: Mada+ P$!"id!nt co%'d I a", tat tat a+!nd+!nt &! 'aid

on t! ta&'! a)ain. IG+ "o$$*- IGd 'i,! to (o$, S!nat! A+!nd+!nt 5 tat (! ad ta',!d

a&o%t !a$'i!$- fi$"t "inc! tat (a"J

MADAM PRESIDENT: Ma* I a/! it $!ad- t! tit'!- and t!n I (i'' 'a* it &ac,

on t! ta&'!.

SENATOR SOOLA: S%$! tatG" fin!.

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fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 "#on"o$!d &* S!nato$ So,o'a. Mada+ P$!"id!nt ti" conc'%d!"


200.

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 1 fo$ S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1

fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" &!fo$! t! S!nat!. ito%t o&!ction S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 1

fo$ S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" 'aid on t! ta&'!. S!nato$ So,o'a.

SENATOR SOOLA: Mada+ P$!"id!nt *!"t!$da* (! di"c%""!d at '!n)t S!nat!

A+!nd+!nt 4 and at t! 'a"t +in%t! fo%nd a #$o&'!+ (it it %"t in on! (o$d tat (a"

'!ft o%t. IGd 'i,! to a", tat S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 4 &! "t$ic,!n.

MADAM PRESIDENT: ito%t o&!ction S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 4 to S!nat!

S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" "t$ic,!n. S!nato$ So,o'a.

SENATOR SOOLA: O,a* no( IGd 'i,! to a", tat S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 5 &!

&$o%)t &!fo$! t! S!nat! fo$ con"id!$ation.


A+!nd+!nt No. 5 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 &* tit'! on'*.


fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 "#on"o$!d &* S!nato$ So,o'a. Mada+ P$!"id!nt ti" conc'%d!"


200.

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 5 i" &!fo$! t! S!nat! S!nato$

So,o'a.

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SENATOR SOOLA: Mada+ P$!"id!nt (!n (! di"c%""!d t! i""%!" tat (!$!

in ti" a+!nd+!nt *!"t!$da* I tin, (! ad !/!$*tin) #$!tt* (!'' c'!a$!d %#. I (i''

&$i!f'* $!+ind t! S!nat! ti" in"%$!" tat ca$t!$ "coo' "t%d!nt"- if t!*G$! 'o( inco+!

"t%d!nt"- (o%'d &! !'i)i&'! fo$ t$an"#o$tation a""i"tanc! a" ot!$ "t%d!nt" in a #%&'ic

"coo' coic! #$o)$a+- (ic i" anot!$ Bi'' tat a" &!!n di"c%""!d !=t!n"i/!'*.

T! "!cond #a$t #$o/id!" tat a t!ac!$ (o i" a +!+&!$ of a &oa$d of a ca$t!$

"coo' +a* &! #a$t of a co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) %nit #$o/id!d tat t! t!ac!$ $!c%"!" i+

o$ !$"!'f f$o+ an* co''!cti/! &a$)ainin) di"c%""ion o$ d!ci"ion".

T! ti$d co+#on!nt !'i+inat!" t! a&i'it* of a ca$t!$ "coo' to a##'* fo$ a

ca$t!$ to t! Stat! Boa$d if it" a##'ication (a" d!ni!d o$ $!/o,!d &* t! 'oca' &oa$d.

And t! fo%$t 'o(!$" t! a+o%nt of f%ndin) tatG" $!%i$!d %# f$ont on %'* 1.

Tat (a" a $!%!"t of t! &oa$d a""ociation".

If t!$! a$! an* f%$t!$ %!"tion" IG'' &! a##* to t$* to fi!'d t!+@ ot!$(i"! I

(o%'d 'i,! to a", fo$ a $o'' ca''.

MADAM PRESIDENT: M$. S!c$!ta$* (o%'d *o% #'!a"! ca'' t! $o'' on S!nat!

A+!nd+!nt No. 5 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200.

MR. SECRETAR?: S!nato$ Ada+">

SENATOR ADMAS: ?!".

MR. SECRETAR?: ?!". S!nato$ A+ic,>

SENATOR AMIC: No.

MR. SECRETAR?: No. S!nato$ Bai$>

SENATOR BAIR: ?!".

MR. SECRETAR?: ?!". S!nato$ B'!/in">

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SENATOR BLEVINS: ?!".

MR. SECRETAR?: ?!". S!nato$ Bonini>

SENATOR BONINI: ?!".

MR. SECRETAR?: ?!". S!nato$ Conno$>

SENATOR CONNOR: ?!".

MR. SECRETAR?: ?!". S!nato$ Coo,>

SENATOR COO: ?!".

MR. SECRETAR?: ?!". S!nato$ Co$d$!*> A&"!nt. S!nato$

SENATOR

SENATOR

A&"!nt. S!nato$ R!!d>

SENATOR REED: ?!".

MR. SECRETAR?: ?!". S!nato$ Sa$#>

SENATOR S


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SENATOR STILL: No.

MR. SECRETAR?: No. S!nato$ Va%)n>

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t! $!adin) of S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 1 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 to S!nat! Bi'' No. 200

a" a+!nd!d.


S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" 'ift!d f$o+ t! ta&'!. M$. R!adin) C'!$,

(o%'d *o% #'!a"! $!ad S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 1 fo$ S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat!

Bi'' No. 200 &* tit'! on'*.


fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" an a+!nd+!nt "#on"o$!d &* S!nato$ So,o'a. Mada+ P$!"id!nt

ti" conc'%d!" t! fina' $!adin) of S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 1 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1

fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200.


So,o'a.

SENATOR SOOLA: Tan, *o% Mada+ P$!"id!nt. Ti" a+!nd+!nt (a" (at

(! (!$! di"c%""in) at '!n)t *!"t!$da* &!fo$! (! $!c!""!d fo$ t! !nd of t! da*. at

ti" a+!nd+!nt do!" a+on) ot!$ tin)" i" it $!%i$!" tat ca$t!$ "coo'" fo''o( t!

"a+! t!ac!$ c!$tification $!%i$!+!nt" a" ot!$ #%&'ic "coo'" in t! Stat!.

It #$o/id!" fo$ a /ot! of t!ac!$" and #a$!nt" in o$d!$ fo$ an !=i"tin) "coo' to

con/!$t to a ca$t!$ "coo'. It #$oi&it" a #$i/at! o$ #a$ocia' "coo' f$o+ con/!$tin) to

ca$t!$ "tat%". And #$o/id!" fo$ t! "a+! !=#%'"ion #$oc!d%$! and $%'!" in a ca$t!$

"coo' a" ot!$ "coo'". And it a'"o #$o/id!" tat ca$t!$ "coo'" cannot a""!"" f!!" tat

a$! not #!$+itt!d to &! ca$)!d &* ot!$ "coo' di"t$ict".

IG'' &! a##* to !nt!$tain an* f%$t!$ %!"tion" on it.


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SENATOR STILL: Tan, *o% Mada+ P$!"id!nt. Fo$ t! "#on"o$- 'in! 10 of t!

f$ont #a)! t$o%) 'in! 11 d!a'" (it o/!$ 50 #!$c!nt of t! t!ac!$" and o/!$ 50 #!$c!nt

of t! #a$!nt" !n$o''!d in "coo'. No( if I %nd!$"tand ti" co$$!ct'*- !it!$ on! of t! t(o

)$o%#" &* a /ot! of o/!$ 50 #!$c!nt can "to# t! ca$t!$ a##'ication- i" tat co$$!ct> ItG"

not a co''!cti/! /ot! of t! t(o- itG" a "in)%'a$ /ot!>



SENATOR STILL: Ma* I a", (* tat #$o/i"ion i" ($itt!n 'i,! tat>


SENATOR SOOLA: I &!'i!/! tat i" "i+i'a$ to t! 'an)%a)! tatG" %"!d in t!

Rand +od!'@ o(!/!$ t! Rand +od!' %"!" a "%#!$+ao$it* /ot!.

SENATOR STILL: O,a*. On t! "!cond #a)! (! (!$! di"c%""in) t! !=#%'"ion

f$o+ t! ca$t!$ "coo' 'in! 21.


SENATOR STILL: I a""%+! t! !=#%'"ion f$o+ a ca$t!$ "coo' (o%'dJ t!

"t%d!nt" att!ndin) t! ca$t!$ "coo' and t! &oa$d (o%'d a/! t! o##o$t%nit* to "!nd

to"! ci'd$!n to an a't!$nati/! "coo' a" (! do at ot!$ "coo'">

SENATOR SOOLA: TatG" o%$ int!nt. Tat of co%$"! i" #$o/idin) t!$! i"

"#ac! a/ai'a&'!.

SENATOR STILL: I %nd!$"tand. T!$! (a" on! ot!$ %!"tion I ad on !$!.

Bac, to t! f$ont #a)!- *#ot!tica''* "#!a,in)- if a "t%d!nt t$an"f!$" f$o+ t!i$ c%$$!nt

"coo'- "a* itG" A##o%ini+in, and A##o%ini+in, a" t(o fai'!d $!f!$!nd%+"- I (ant to

+a,! "%$! I %nd!$"tand. T! +on!* tatG" a""ociat!d (it tat ci'd )o!" to t! ca$t!$

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"coo' !/!n to%) itG" di+ini"!d and t!$!fo$! tat "coo' (o%'d ta,! t! $!"t of t!

$!+ainin) f%nd" tat co+! (it t! ci'd$!n to t! #%&'ic "coo' and di"#!$"! t!+ on an

a/!$a)! &a"i" ac$o"" t! #oo' of ,id" in t! ca$t!$ "coo'.

SENATOR SOOLA: Tat #a$t i" in t! +ain &od* of t! Bi''.

SENATOR STILL: Ri)t.

SENATOR SOOLA: Ti" #a$t d!a'" (it a #!$c!nta)! of t! #a$t tat *o%G$!

ta',in) a&o%t tatG" co/!$!d in t! +ain Bi''.

SENATOR STILL: O,a* IG'' co+! &ac, to tat t!n tan, *o%.


SENATOR SOOLA: If t!$! a$! no f%$t!$ %!"tion" IGd 'i,! to a", fo$ a $o''

ca''.

MADAM PRESIDENT: M$. S!c$!ta$* (o%'d *o% #'!a"! ca'' t! $o'' on S!nat!

A+!nd+!nt No. 1 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200.

MR. SECRETAR?: S!nato$ Ada+">

SENATOR ADMAS: ?!".

MR. SECRETAR?: ?!". S!nato$ A+ic,>

SENATOR AMIC: No.

MR. SECRETAR?: No. S!nato$ Bai$>

SENATOR BAIR: No.

MR. SECRETAR?: No. S!nato$ B'!/in">



SENATOR BONINI: No

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MR. SECRETAR?: No. S!nato$ Conno$>



SENATOR COO: ?!".

MR. SECRETAR?: ?!". S!nato$ Co$d$!*> A&"!nt. S!nato$

SENATOR

SENATOR A&"!nt. S!nato$ Sti''>

SENATOR STILL: No.

MR. SECRETAR?: No. S!nato$ Va%)n>

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SENATOR AMIC: Mada+ P$!"id!nt +a* I a", tat S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 2

to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 &! #'ac!d on t! ta&'!>

MADAM PRESIDENT: ito%t o&!ction" S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 2 fo$ S!nat!

S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" on t! ta&'!. S!nato$ R!!d.

SENATOR REED: Mada+ P$!"id!nt I a", tat S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 3 &! $!ad

in.


A+!nd+!nt No. 3 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 &* tit'! on'*.


fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 "#on"o$!d &* S!nato$ R!!d. Mada+ P$!"id!nt ti" conc'%d!" t!

$!adin) of S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 3 to S!nat! S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 a"

a+!nd!d.


R!!d.

SENATOR REED: Mada+ P$!"id!nt I a", tat S!nat! No. 3 &! ta&'!d #'!a"!.

MADAM PRESIDENT: ito%t o&!ction" S!nat! A+!nd+!nt No. 3 to S!nat!

S%&"tit%t! No. 1 fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" #'ac!d on t! ta&'!. S!nato$


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fo$ S!nat! Bi'' No. 200 i" a+!nd!d "#on"o$!d &* S!nato$"


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att!ndanc! a$!a fo$ tat "coo'. B!ca%"! fo$ !=a+#'! if *o% (ant!d to con/!$t a "coo'

tat ad fo%$t and fift )$ad!$" in it- #a$!nt" (o (o%'d &! !ff!ct!d &* tat con/!$"ion

a$! not %"t t! #a$!nt" of t! "t%d!nt" at tat ti+!- &%t t! #a$!nt" of "t%d!nt" (o (o%'d

&! f!!din) into tat "coo'. An* of to"! #a$!nt" (o%'d &! a''o(!d to /ot! in tat.

! a'"o +a,! it c'!a$ in ti" a+!nd+!nt tat (!n tat /ot! occ%$" it +%"t &! at a

#%&'ic +!!tin) (it at '!a"t 40 da*" ad/anc!d #%&'ic notic!. Tan, *o%.


SENATOR STILL: Tan, *o% +* %!"tion i" fo$ t! "#on"o$ !$!. Ti"

add$!""!d "o+! of +* conc!$n" &%t '!t +! %nd!$"tand on #a)! 2 o$ 4 (at 'oo," 'i,! to

&! a /!$* c%+&!$"o+! #$oc!""- &%t I a""%+! tat +%c of ti" i" t! "a+! #$oc!"" fo$

no$+a' c!$tification>

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SENATOR BONINI: ?!".

MR. SECRETAR?: ?!". S!nato$ Conno$>


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SENATOR COO: No.

MR. SECRETAR?: No. S!nato$ Co$d$!*> A&"!nt. S!nato$

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SENATOR VENABLES: ?!".

MR. SECRETAR?: ?!". S!nato$ Vo"!''>

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On No/!+&!$ 28- 1990- Da/id !$n- t! Ci!f E=!c%ti/! Offic!$ of !$o=- "#o,!

to a )$o%# of D!'a(a$! !d%cato$" and &%"in!"" '!ad!$". In i" co++!nt"- ! "tat!d tat

fo$ an o$)aniation to &! !ff!cti/! *o% +%"t do t! fo''o(in)@ id!ntif* *o%$ c%"to+!$"-

id!ntif* (at *o%$ c%"to+!$" (ant- id!ntif* o( to #$o/id! (at t! c%"to+!$ (ant" and

'a"t'* d!"i)n a "*"t!+ tat (i'' #$o/id! (at t! c%"to+!$ (ant" in an !ff!cti/! and

!ffici!nt +ann!$. I donGt &!'i!/! an* of %" can di"a)$!! (it tat "t$at!)*.

In D!'a(a$!G" !d%cationa' a$!na (! ,no( (o t! c%"to+!$" a$!- t!* a$! o%$

"t%d!nt"- t! #a$!nt" (! "!$/!- a" (!'' a" t! !+#'o*!$ and t! in"tit%tion" of #o"t

)$ad%at! !d%cation. And (! a'"o ,no( (at t! c%"to+!$G" (ant. And tat i" to a/!

*o%n) #!o#'! (o can +o/! into t! (o$, #'ac! and ,!!# D!'a(a$! and t! Unit!d

Stat!" in t! to# of t! co+#!tition in t! )'o&a' +a$,!t.

T! 'a"t t(o "t!#" o(!/!$- a$! (at a'' of %" a/! &!!n d!&atin) fo$ t! 'a"t t$!!

*!a$". I" it c%$$ic%'%+ and a""!""+!nt "tanda$d"- coic! "coo'" o$ ca$t!$ "coo'"> T!

an"(!$ +a* not &! on! o$ t! ot!$- &%t a co+&ination of a'' of t!+.

T! ,!*- o(!/!$- 'i!" in t! fi$"t (o$d of Da/id !$n" fo%$ "t!# in t! #$oc!""

and tat (o$d i" d!"i)n. !n an ai$#'an! i" d!"i)n!d- it i" not #%t into f%'' "ca'!

#$od%ction %nti' aft!$ a #$otot*#! i" con"t$%ct!d and t!"t!d. * "o%'d (! &! doin)

diff!$!nt'* (it t! !d%cationa' t$an"fo$+ation in D!'a(a$!>

T! financia' i+#'ication" of ti" Ca$t!$ Bi'' a$! co+#'!=. * not fi'! it to

conc!#t on a /!$* "+a'' "ca'!- #!$a#" on! o$ t(o "it%ation" in t! "tat! and a''o( ti+!

fo$ !/a'%ation &!fo$! t! conc!#t i" !=#and!d>

I a/! $!ad tat "!/!$a' 'a$)! N!( Ca"t'! Co$#o$ation" a$! int!$!"t!d in "ta$tin) a

Ca$t!$ Scoo' in i'+in)ton. Tat "it%ation co%'d &! t! #$otot*#! I +!ntion!d !a$'i!$.

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T! %!"tion I a/! to%) a&o%t ti" i"- (i'' t! "t%d!nt" in !nt and S%""!=

Co%nti!" a/! t! $!"o%$c!" of to"! "i= 'a$)! co$#o$ation" to &! )i/!n t! "a+!

o##o$t%niti!" fo$ "%c a "coo' in !nt and S%""!= Co%nt*>

I %$)! *o% to ,!!# "!a$cin) fo$ a &!tt!$ (a* to !d%cat! *o%n) #!o#'!. ! a''

(ant to do tat. L!tG" not +o/! "o fa"t tat ci'd$!nG" !d%cation and t!i$ ca$!!$" co%'d

ta,! a t%+&'! and &!ca%"! (at a##!a$!d in t!o$* did not acco+#'i" (at (! (ant!d

in $!a'it*. Tan, *o%.

MADAM PRESIDENT: Si$ (o%'d *o% #'!a"! $!+ain a +o+!ntif t!$! a$!

%!"tion". S!nato$ V!na&'!".

SENATOR VENABLES: ?!". I donGt a/! an* %!"tion" &%t I (o%'d a",

+!+&!$" of t! S!nat! if t!* (o%'d a/! an* %!"tion"- &!fo$! (! !=c%"! t! (itn!"".


SENATOR STILL: Tan, *o% Mada+ P$!"id!nt. M$. Ba"tian t! Bi'' tat (!

ad #$!/io%"'* a''o(!d fo$ a #$i/at! "coo' to "!t %# a ca$t!$@ &%t tat a" &!!n !=c'%d!d

f$o+ t! Bi''- IG+ (ond!$in) (at *o%$ o/!$a'' /i!( on t! Bi'' i" at ti" #oint (it t!

a+!nd+!nt" attac!d to it>

MR. BASTIAN: I tin, t! Bi'' co%'d "!$/! a #%$#o"! fo$ "o+! *o%n) #!o#'!. I

tin, itG" anot!$ a't!$nati/! to &! !=#'o$!d. B%t a" I indicat!d &!fo$!- I (o%'d 'i,! to "!!

an !/a'%ation and "!! (at in fact tat ca$t!$ "coo' i" )oin) to a/!. And (at (!G$! a''

int!$!"t!d in i" t! o%tco+! of t! !d%cation fo$ to"! *o%n) #!o#'!. A$! t!* )oin) to

inc$!a"! t!i$ tin,in) ",i''"> A$! t!* )oin) to inc$!a"! t!i$ ",i''" to +o/! fo$(a$d and

do tin)" and "o on>

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SENATOR STILL: I tin, t! %!"tion (a" do *o% "%##o$t t! Bi'' in it" #$!"!nt

fo$+> L!t +! $!"tat! tat.

MR. BASTIAN: I "%##o$t t! Bi'' on a "+a'' "ca'!- on a #i'ot "ca'!- *!".

SENATOR STILL: Tan, *o% "i$.

MADAM PRESIDENT: S!nato$ V!na&'!".

SENATOR VENABLES: Tan, *o% Mada+ P$!"id!nt. Ma*&! I can a", a

%!"tion. !n *o% "a* a "+a'' "ca'!- (o%'d *o% tin, tat fi/! co%'d &! a n%+&!$ tat

(o%'d &! $!a"ona&'! fo$ a #i'ot>

MR. BASTIAN: I tin, fi/! i" a 'a$)! n%+&!$. A)ain IG+ conc!$n!d tat (!n

*o% do ti"- o( +an* "t%d!nt"G 'i/!" a$! *o% )oin) to i+#act if t! ca$t!$ "coo'

#$o#o"a' do!" not (o$,- a" (! #!$c!i/!d it to (o$,>

IG+ conc!$n!d a&o%t t! n%+&!$ of "t%d!nt"G 'i/!" tat a$! )oin) to &! in/o'/!d

and t! ca$!!$" tat +a* &! can)!d a" a $!"%'t of "o+!tin) tat +i)t not &! a"

!ff!cti/! a" (at (! to%)t it (a" )oin) to &! (!n it (a" #%t in #'ac!.

I tin, fi/! i" #!$a#" too 'a$)! of a n%+&!$. I tin, on! o$ t(o to "ta$t (it.

L!tG" )i/! ti+! to !/a'%at! tat and if it #$o/!" "%cc!""f%' t!n '!tG" +o/! on.

SENATOR VENABLES: B%t *o%G$! $!a''* a)ain"t tat t!a+- (ic ti" Bi''

o$i)ina''* did- and I (!nt t$o%) ti" a+!nd+!nt "o fa"t to t!'' *o% t! t$%t- I didnGt

a/! a canc! to "t%d* t!+. B%t- I (a" &a"ica''* to'd d%$in) a'' t!"! ta'," in t! a''"

and diff!$!nt #'ac!" tat tat ad &!!n "ca'!d do(n to fi/! and tatG" (* I a",!d *o% t!

%!"tion a&o%t fi/!. I a/!nGt !a$d tat- &%t IG+ )oin) to a", tat f$o+ t! "#on"o$.

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I too a/! t! "a+! $!"!$/ation" on ti" t*#! of L!)i"'ation a" *o% ad. In fact I

ad t! "a+! $!"!$/ation" (it n!( di$!ction". I to%)t it (o%'d &! +%c &!tt!$ to #%t a

#i'ot #$o)$a+ in and if it (o$,!d- t!n (! didnGt (a"t! a'' tat +on!*.

I f!'t t! "a+! (a* on ti" #a$tic%'a$ Bi''- &%t I do %nd!$"tand tat itG" $!d%c!d

do(n to fi/!. I a/!nGt "!!n tat in ($itin) &%t IG+ )oin) to a", tat %!"tion.

MR. BASTIAN: IG+ a'"o conc!$n!d itG" fi/! in 199697 t!n in 199798 it )o!"

to fi/! +o$!. And I %!"tion (!t!$ o$ not in on! *!a$ !"#!cia''* (!n *o%G$! "ta$tin) a

"coo' tat *o%G$! )oin) to &! a&'! to !/a'%at! t! !ff!cti/!n!"" of tat #$o)$a+.

SENATOR VENABLES: Ma*&! I +i"%nd!$"tood it- &%t I %nd!$"tood tat fi/!

(a" it and I donGt ,no( f$o+ (at #!$iod of ti+!- &%t I did !a$ t! fi/!- fi/!- fi/!-

+a,!" a tota' of fift!!n o/!$ a t$!! *!a$ #!$iod. Tan, *o%.

SENATOR SOOLA: Mada+ P$!"id!nt.


SENATOR SOOLA: T!$! i" a %!"tion on t! f'oo$ tat IGd 'i,! to &! a&'! to

an"(!$. T!$! (a" di"c%""ion a&o%t ti" "inc! t! &!)innin) of t! Bi''. T! o$i)ina'

Rand Mod!' "%))!"t!d no 'i+it"- t!$! (!$! co+#$o+i"!d di"c%""ion". ! )ot into t!

S%&"tit%t! Bi''- fi/! &!)innin) t! 199697 "coo' *!a$" (it an additiona' fi/! in 1997

98 and t!n an additiona' fi/! in 199899. Tat a" not &!!n a+!nd!d.


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SENATOR MARS I )%!"" *o%Gd a/!

acc!"" t$o%)o%t t! !nti$! Co%nt* and Stat!. I ,no( D%PontG" do(n t!$!- &%t (!$!

(o%'d *o% 'oo, fo$ tat ,ind ofJ

MR. BASTIAN: Tat i" +* conc!$n. I donGt f!!' tat t! "t%d!nt" in D!'+a$

(o%'d a/! t! "a+! o##o$t%nit* a" t!* (o%'d in t! i'+in)ton "it%ation &!ca%"! of

t! additiona' financ!" tat to"! co$#o$ation" co%'d &$in) to &!a$ on t! #$o)$a+.

I (o%'d a/! to )o to D%Pont- to t! S!afo$d D%Pont P'ant. I co%'d #!$a#" )o

a&o%t t$!! +i'!" "o%t to D!'+a$/a To(!$. T!$! i" a 'a$)! co$#o$ation in Sa'i"&%$*@

o(!/!$- I f!!' tat onc! *o% )o ac$o"" t! Stat! 'in!- t!i$ 'o*a't* i" )oin) to &! (it t!

"coo' "*"t!+ in Ma$*'and- a" o##o"!d to to"! in D!'+a$. Tat i" +* conc!$n. TatG"

t! $!a"on fo$ +* co++!nt.

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MS. RAUSE: I a+ !an!tt! $a%"! and I a+ $!#$!"!ntin) t! PTA toda*. IG/!

"#!nt a&o%t t!n *!a$" co+in) do(n to t! !n!$a' A""!+&'*- "o I ,no( +an* of *o%-

(!n I (a" ad/ocatin) fo$ ci'd$!n- &!fo$! I "ta$t!d (o$,in) at t! Nationa' PTA

o$i)ina''* fo$ a&o%t "i= *!a$".

PTA a" a #!$"#!cti/! of &!in) /!$* conc!$n!d a&o%t !/!$* ci'd a" &!in) o%$

ci'd. !G$! $!"#on"i&'! fo$ !d%catin) a'' ci'd$!n in t! Stat! of D!'a(a$!. Tat $an)!"

(!t!$ o$ not t!*G$! f$o+ t! R!d C'a* Scoo' Di"t$ict and t! C$i"tina Scoo'

Di"t$ict in t! no$t to D!'+a$ and Indian Ri/!$ and

i+#act of ti" L!)i"'ation on c%$$!nt $!fo$+". ! tin, t!"! tin)" n!!d to &! 'oo,!d at

/!$* ca$!f%''*.

at (!G$! not doin) i" o##o"in) t! conc!#t of a ca$t!$ "coo'. B%t (! a$!

a",in) *o% toda* to d!'a* action on ti" Bi'' fo$ a n%+&!$ of $!a"on". Fi$"t (! tin, itG"

/!$* i+#o$tant tat *o% #$o/id! a #%&'ic $!/i!(- inc'%din) #a$!nt". B!ca%"! on! of t!

conc!$n" a&o%t ti" Bi'' tat i" /!$* c'!a$ i" tat conc!$n a&o%t )i/in) #a$!nt" coic!. !

tin, a #%&'ic $!/i!( of tat i" a (a* to "ta$t d!a'in) (it tat coic!.

Con"id!$in) t! i+#act of ti" Bi'' on a'' "t%d!nt" and on c%$$!nt $!fo$+" &!in)

con"id!$!d- (! tin, ti" (o%'d )i/! *o% ti+! to- and #a$!nt" t$o%)o%t t! Stat!- to

con"id!$ t! !/id!nc! and '!""on" f$o+ ca$t!$ "coo'" tat c%$$!nt'* !=i"t in Ca'ifo$nia

and Minn!"ota fo$ !=a+#'!. T!$! a$! ot!$ "tat!" tat a/! ca$t!$ "coo'" in Ca'ifo$nia

and Minn!"ota #a$tic%'a$'* I (o%'d "id! a" i+#o$tant in t!$+" of #$o/idin) info$+ation.

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Fina''* (! (o%'d a'"o 'i,! to a/! ,!* %!"tion" a",!d a&o%t ti" "#!cific

'!)i"'ation ca$!f%''* ana'*in)- (at *o%G/! ad !i)t!!n #a)!"@ *o%G/! attac!d "!/!$a'

a+!nd+!nt" toda*. T!"! a+!nd+!nt" and t! c%$$!nt '!)i"'ation n!!d to &! 'oo,!d at

/!$* ca$!f%''*.

T! Bi'' a" &!!n &a"!d on@ I a/! to on!"t'* "a*- 'oo,in) at +od!' '!)i"'ation

!'"!(!$!. B%t D!'a(a$! a" a $at!$ %ni%! "*"t!+. Fo$ to"! of *o% (o a/!

t$a/!'!d !'"!(!$! find tat no on! f%nd" !d%cation %it! t! "a+! (a* a" D!'a(a$!. So

itG" i+#o$tant to 'oo, at tat.

D!'a(a$!G" $!fo$+" a$! /i!(!d incid!nta''* !'"!(!$! a" /!$* #o"iti/!. I a'(a*"

tin, IG+ co+in) f$o+ a "+a'' "tat! &%t (!G$! not $!a''* doin) tin)" tat ot!$ #!o#'!

a$! doin)- &%t tatG" not t$%!. D!'a(a$!G" $!fo$+" a$! att$actin) att!ntion !'"!(!$! and

tatG" #o"iti/!. T! inc$!a"in) "tanda$d" fo$ a'' "t%d!nt" i" "o+!tin) tat t!* a""%+! if

D!'a(a$! can do it- itG" #o""i&'! to do it !'"!(!$!. So t!$!G" "o+! #o"iti/! f!!'in)"

a&o%t D!'a(a$! !'"!(!$!.

I a'"o '!a$n!d $!c!nt'*- and (atG" int!$!"tin) to +!- i" tat t! #$oc!"" &* (ic

(!G$! )oin) a&o%t $!fo$+ in D!'a(a$! i" "o+!tin) t! #!o#'! f!!' /!$* #o"iti/! a&o%t.

In/o'/in) a'' t! "ta,!o'd!$" in d!/!'o#in) t! "tanda$d" fo$ !=a+#'!- a/in) $!#!at!d

$!/i!(" of t! d$aft- %"in) in"!$/ic! #$o)$a+" fo$ !d%catin) t!ac!$"- a/in) !a$in)"-

*o%G/! in/o'/!d !/!n t! t!'!/i"ion $!c!nt'* in t!$+" of doin) tat- in/itin) &ot

co+#'i+!nt" and c$itici"+" &!ca%"! t!$! a$! &ot in t!$+" of can)in) "tanda$d". PTA

a" f!'t inc'%d!d in t! #$oc!"".

! a/! to "a* tat (!n (! 'oo, at t! d!/!'o#+!nt of ti" L!)i"'ation- (! a/!

not f!'t inc'%d!d@ (! a/!nGt f!'t tat #a$!nt" ad &!!n &$o%)t in t! d!/!'o#+!nt of ti"

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Bi'' and tatG" /!$* i+#o$tant. So (!G$! %$)in) *o%- d!'a*- a/! !a$in)" to inc'%d!

#a$!nt" in t! #$oc!"". Ti" (o%'d- a" I indicat!d a'$!ad*- in/o'/! 'oo,in) at t! !/id!nc!

of ca$t!$ "coo'" in Minn!"ota and Ca'ifo$nia and !'"!(!$!.

If *o% 'oo, at t! $!#o$t" tat a/! c%$$!nt'* &!!n $!'!a"!d on Ca'ifo$nia and

Minn!"ota- %"t to cit! to"! t(o !=a+#'!"@ Ca'ifo$nia "a*" "o+! "coo'" a$! doin) (!''-

ot!$" a$! "t$%))'in) to "%$/i/!. So if *o%G$! a #$o#on!nt of ca$t!$ "coo' '!)i"'ation-

*o% can #ic, !=a+#'!" of "%cc!"". If *o%G$! an o##on!nt- *o% can #ic, o$$o$ "to$i!"@ in

Ca'ifo$niaG" Lo" An)!'!" ca"! of a +i''ion do''a$" 'o"" in t!$+" of f%ndin) in a ca$t!$

"coo' a" an !=a+#'!. So *o% can coo"! and #ic, t! !/id!nc! tat *o% (ant.

Minn!"ota ta'," a&o%t a +i=!d $!/i!( in t!$+" of (atG" a##!nin). And t!*G/!

%"t co+! &ac, (it in F!&$%a$* t!$! (a" a $!#o$t tat (a" i""%!d and t!* #$o#o"!d

"o+! can)!" a" a $!"%'t in t!$+" of t! (a* tat t!*G$! '!)i"'atin) ca$t!$ "coo'. So

t! '!""on" a$! o%t t!$! and (! tin, itG" (o$t (i'! to 'oo, at to"! /!$* c'o"!'* to "!!

o( t!* a##'* to D!'a(a$!.

PTA a" d!/!'o#!d "o+! c$it!$ia and a'' of *o% "o%'d a/! $!c!i/!d t!+. In

fai$n!"" to t! L!)i"'ation +an* of to"! a$! +!t- and (!G$! #'!a"!d a&o%t tat. B%t-

t!$! a$! "o+! conc!$n" (! a/!. i'' t! )ift" di"to$t t! a+o%nt of #%&'ic f%nd"

a/ai'a&'! fo$ a #a$tic%'a$ )$o%# of "t%d!nt">

E%ita&i'it* i" "o+!tin) tat D!'a(a$! a" a $!co$d tat t!* can &! /!$* #$o%d

of and tat $!co$d n!!d" to &! +aintain!d. So (!n *o% o#!n t! doo$ fo$ )ift" f$o+

+ao$ co$#o$ation"- tatG" an i""%! tat n!!d" to &! ca$!f%''* 'oo,!d at.

Ind!#!nd!nt !/a'%ation- if *o% a/! "coo' &oa$d" !/a'%atin) a "coo' tat

t!*G/! ca$t!$!d- tatG" $!a''* not o%$ conc!#t incid!nta''* of ind!#!nd!nt !/a'%ation.

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And I ,no( tat D!'a(a$! in t! #a"t fift!!n *!a$" "inc! 1980 (!n I )ot in/o'/!d- I

,no( a" co++i""ion!d at ti+!" ind!#!nd!nt !/a'%ato$" to co+! in and $!/i!( a

#$o)$a+. So tatG" anot!$ conc!$n.

O%$ +ao$ conc!$n o(!/!$- i" tat (! n!!d to 'oo, /!$* ca$!f%''* a&o%t (o%'d it

a/! a n!)ati/! i+#act on #%&'ic "coo'"> Ti" co+!" &ac, to t! i""%! of a'' ci'd$!n.

To"! of %" (o (o$, at PTA %"t f'i##!d t$o%) t! Bi'' and I a/! to "a* tat

!i)t!!n #a)!" i" a 'ot to ana'*! in t! "o$t #!$iod of ti+! tat it (a" int$od%c!d "inc!

%n! 13t and t!$! (!$! "o+! %!"tion".

Fo$ !=a+#'! it "a*" tat a##$o/in) a%to$it* of a ca$t!$ "coo'- t! "coo' &oa$d

in ti" ca"! "o%'dnGt a/! an* 'ia&i'it* &%t- o(!/!$- a ca$t!$ "coo' can inc%$ d!&t. So

if d!&t d!/!'o#"- (o i" )oin) to &! $!"#on"i&'! fo$ tat d!&t> I +!an t! a""%+#tion i"

tat t!"! a$! )oin) to &! "%cc!""f%'. !Gd o#! tat an* "coo' (o%'d &! "%cc!""f%'.

B%t- tatG" "o+!tin) tat n!!d" to &! con"id!$!d.

S#ac! c%$$!nt'* a/ai'a&'! in on! "coo' di"t$ict co%'d &! +ad! a/ai'a&'! fo$

ca$t!$ "coo'"- &%t (!G/! a'"o "!!n "coo' di"t$ict" (it t$!+!ndo%" a+o%nt of )$o(t.

at a##!n" (!n *o% a/! a "%cc!""f%' "coo' co+#!tin) (it a "coo' di"t$ict tatG"

d!a'in) (it )$o(t> TatG" a co+#'icat!d i""%! to d!a' (it. ?o% o&/io%"'* n!!d to

!d%cat! a'' ci'd$!n- &%t *o% +a* a/! on! (in) of t! "coo' &!in) %"!d fo$ a ca$t!$

"coo'. TatG" a co+#'icat!d i""%!. ItG" a #$o&'!+ tat co%'d d!/!'o# o%t t!$!.

! a'"o (!$! #ond!$in) "o+! of t!"! tin)". IG'' %"! an !=a+#'! of +* o(n

"coo' di"t$ict. Do(n!" i" an !'!+!nta$* "coo' /!$* c'o"! to !"t Pa$,. L!tG" "a* tat

Do(n!" coo"!" to &!co+! a ca$t!$ "coo' and t! C$i"tina Scoo' Boa$d "a*" fin!-

&%t on'* 50 #!$c!nt of to"! #a$!nt" in Do(n!" o#t to )o to Do(n!". T! Scoo' Boa$d

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i" t!n $!"#on"i&'! fo$ #'acin) to"! ot!$ 50 #!$c!nt. T!$! a$! (a*" o&/io%"'* to #'an

in ad/anc! "o *o% donGt a/! tat ,ind of #$o&'!+ d!/!'o#. B%t (!n *o% d!a' (it a

"coo' di"t$ict tat a'$!ad* a" to )o $!#!at!d'* to /ot!$" to !=#and &%i'din) "#ac!- *o%

"ta$t to "!! t!$! a$! "o+! #ot!ntia' #$o&'!+" tat +i)t d!/!'o# tat on! (o%'d not a/!

antici#at!d. And tatG" !=act'* t! ,ind of tin) tat (!G$! d!a'in) (it.

I 'oo,!d at t$an"#o$tation. It do!"nGt +!ntion "coo' &%"!"- &%t I ,no( tat in t!

n%+&!$ of *!a$" I ca+! do(n and +onito$!d t! &%d)!t- t! co"t of "coo' &%"!" i" a

+ao$ i""%!. And t$an"#o$tation i" not "i+#'* a/in) a f%ndin) fo$+%'a %n'!"" f%ndin)

fo$+%'a" no( co+! (it (!!'" (itin a *!''o( &o=@ IG+ not "%$! tat tatG" )oin) to &!

/!$* !ff!cti/!.

T!$! a$! ot!$ #$o&'!+" tat co%'d d!/!'o# a" (!''. T! f%ndin) fo$+%'a i"

fai$'* co+#'!=- if *o% "ta$t to ana'*! (at tat $!a''* +!an". B%t it do!" "a* tat not

on'* Stat! f%nd" &%t a'"o t! 'oca' f%nd" (o%'d fo''o( t! "t%d!nt. at a##!n" if *o%

a/!- and (! do ,no( !/!n (it !%a'iation tat diff!$!nt "coo' di"t$ict" a/! a

diff!$!nt a+o%nt #!$ "t%d!nt@ (at a##!n" if *o% a/! a "t%d!nt )o f$o+ a "coo' di"t$ict

tat &a"ica''* #$o/id!" '!"" "tat! fo$+%'a and '!"" 'oca' f%ndin) to on! tat i" +o$!

!=#!n"i/!> at a&o%t t! )a# &!t(!!n to"! t(o> So+!o( tat a" to &! add$!""!d.

TatG" an i+#o$tant i""%!.

at a##!n" if *o% a/! a i) "coo' in '!tG" "a* Di"t$ict H& tat att$act" 100

"t%d!nt" f$o+ i) "coo' in Di"t$ict Ha> No( if itG" an !'!+!nta$* "coo' tatG" fai$'*

"i+#'!. ?o% "i+#'* a/! fi/! '!"" t!ac!$". At a i) "coo' '!/!'- *o%G$! !ndan)!$in)

t! co+#$!!n"i/! #$o)$a+ of tat i) "coo'. Tat +!an" (!G$! ta',in) a&o%t co%$"!"-

not c'a""!"- and tatG" an i""%! tat co%'d a##!n.

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Anot!$ co+#on!nt tat +i)t d!/!'o# i" (at a##!n" aft!$ S!#t!+&!$ 40t if

to"! 100 "t%d!nt" d!cid! to )o &ac, to t! o+! di"t$ict> I +!an $i)t no( (!$! a$!

t! do''a$"> Did t! do''a$" fo''o( to"! "t%d!nt" &ac,- o$ i" t! o+! di"t$ict $!"#on"i&'!

fo$ !d%catin) to"! 100 "t%d!nt" !/!n to%) t! ca$t!$ "coo' a" t! +on!*- t! 'oca'

f%nd" and t! "tat! f%nd" fo$ t!+>

It "!!+" to +! (!n *o% f'i# t$o%) ti" Bi'' t!$! a$! a 'ot of %!"tion" tat

*o% can $ai"! tat a$! not add$!""!d. Tat do!"nGt +!an tat t!$! a"nGt &!!n to%)t

)on! into t! d!/!'o#+!nt of t! Bi''- &%t tat +!an" tat itG" t! ,ind of L!)i"'ation tat

ta,!" "o+! /!$* ca$!f%' ana'*"i" and 'oo,in) at.

T! #$oc!"" in

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