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Page 1: Strong increase in net profit Second Quarter Results 2004 2 August 2004

Strong increase in net profit Second Quarter Results 2004

2 August 2004

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Table of contents

Introduction 3

Operating performance 10

Asset quality, capital and interest rate sensitivity 32

Outlook and strategic update 38

Appendices 49

GSS Presentation “Fuel for Growth” 85

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397

534591

685 690

782832 857

934987

0

200

400

600

800

1000

Q1 02 Q2 02 Q3 02 Q4 02 Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

Net profit increased for the 9th consecutive quarter

Net profit (EUR mln)

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8384 9225

3047210

2000

4000

6000

8000

10000

H1 03 H1 04

US Mortgage Income Total revenues AA excl. US mortgages

Revenue increased despite strong decline in US mortage income Total revenues ABN AMRO (excl. US mortgage) and US mortgage revenues (EUR mln)

91059529

+841

-417

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Continuing positive results due to well diversified business mix

Operating result per (S)BU (H1 2004, y-o-y % change)

8%27%

-12%

-35%

71%66%

185%

51%

112%

-50%

0%

50%

100%

150%

200%

BU NL BU NA BU Brazil BU NGM Bouwfonds WCS PC AM Other

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72.873.4

71.0

69.2

66.567.4

66.7

62.0

64.0

66.0

68.0

70.0

72.0

74.0

H1 01 H2 01 H1 02 H2 02 H1 03 H2 03 H1 04

Leading to a gradual improvement of the efficiency ratioEfficiency ratio (%)

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The performance is supported by top market positions

All figures based on Brazilian GAAP

TOP 4 PRIVATE BANK IN BRAZIL

TOP RANKING US REGIONAL

FRANCHISE IN THE MID-WEST

EUROPEAN PRIVATE BANKING:# 1 Netherlands# 3 France and Germany

Top 6 US mortgage originatorTop 7 US mortgage servicer

WCS European franchise with top 3 Global Trade and Cash & Payment platform

NETHERLANDS:Top commercial bank for large SME and affluent customers

INDIA Growing mass affluent retail franchises (12 branches)

Source: SNL financials

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Shareholder returns have increasedReturn on equity (ROE, %) and Earnings per Share (EPS, EUR)

13.7

19.2

22.4

26.4 25.9

29.429.228.5

29.028.2

10

15

20

25

30

Q1 02 Q2 02 Q3 02 Q4 02 Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

ROE

0.60.56

0.520.51

0.48

0.430.43

0.370.34

0.25

0

0.1

0.2

0.3

0.4

0.5

0.6

0.7

Q1 02 Q2 02 Q3 02 Q4 02 Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

EPS

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Interim dividend increased by 5 cents to 50 Euro centsDividend and Dividend yield

0.45 0.45 0.450.50

0.45 0.450.50

0.00

0.25

0.50

0.75

1.00

2001 2002 2003 2004

Interim Dividend Final Dividend

5.5%

5.9%

5.1%

4.3%

0.0%

1.0%

2.0%

3.0%

4.0%

5.0%

6.0%

2001 2002 2003 H1 04

Dividend yield (dividend/average share price)

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Operating performance

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Further increase in net profit due to lower provisioning

Revenues flat quarter on quarter as higher revenues in BU NA and CC offset lower revenues in WCS

Operating expenses were stable as higher expenses in BU NA and CC offset lower expenses in WCS and Brazil

Operating result flat, but net profit higher as a result of lower provisioning

* At constant forex rates

Quarterly Six months

(EUR mln) Q2 2004 Q1 2004%

change%

change* 2004 2003%

change%

change*

Total revenue 4,770 4,759 0.2 (0.0) 9,529 9,105 4.7 7.9

Operating expenses 3,184 3,169 0.5 0.1 6,353 6,057 4.9 8.0

Operating result 1,586 1,590 (0.3) (0.3) 3,176 3,048 4.2 7.9

Provisioning loan losses 154 195 (21.0) (21.0) 349 648 (46.1) (44.6)

Net profit 987 934 5.7 3.9 1,921 1,472 30.5 33.4

Efficiency ratio 66.8% 66.6% 66.7% 66.5%

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C&CC

Quarterly Six months

(EUR mln) Q2 2004 Q1 2004%

change%

change* 2004 2003%

change%

change*

Total revenue 2,602 2,486 4.7 4.1 5,088 5,318 (4.3) 0.2

Operating expenses 1,613 1,602 0.7 0.4 3,215 3,090 4.0 8.4

Operating result 989 884 11.9 11.0 1,873 2,228 (15.9) (11.1)

Provisioning loan losses 139 160 (13.1) (13.1) 299 397 (24.7) (22.4)

Net profit 598 493 21.3 16.6 1,091 1,168 (6.6) (2.6)

Efficiency ratio 62.0% 64.4% 63.2% 58.1%

Staff (fte) 73,755 75,817 (2.7) 73,755 77,369 (4.7)

Risk-weighted assets (in bn) 146.3 146.0 0.2 146.3 141.4 3.5

* At constant forex rates

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Strong C&CC results mainly due to BU NA and BU Brazil

Operating result per BU (Q2 2004, q-o-q % change)

0%

19%

16%

-2%

6%

12%

-5%

0%

5%

10%

15%

20%

25%

BU NL BU NA BU Brazil BU NGM Bouwfonds C&CC

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BU NL

Quarterly Six months

(EUR mln) Q2 2004 Q1 2004 % change 2004 2003 % change

Total revenue 784 791 (0.9) 1,575 1,644 (4.2)

Operating expenses 604 611 (1.1) 1,215 1,235 (1.6)

Operating result 180 180 0.0 360 409 (12.0)

Provisioning loan losses 42 68 (38.2) 110 108 1.9

Net profit 93 74 25.7 167 231 (27.7)

Efficiency ratio 77.0% 77.2% 77.1% 75.1%

Staff (fte) 20,396 21,152 (3.6) 20,396 21,417 (4.8)

Risk-weighted assets (in bn) 53.5 52.6 1.7 53.5 52.6 1.7

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Improvement efficiency ratio BU NL despite low GDP growthEfficiency ratio BU NL*

* Q1 03 is adjusted for sale of insurance business to DL, Q2 03 is adjusted for share loss in Interpay and release of accrued provisioning, and Q4 is adjusted for the unwinding of the security vehicle and EUR 23 mln restructuring costs.

86.7

92.4

84.0 84.5

81.5

84.8 84.7

77.9

83.6

78.9 79.5 80.1

77.2 77.0

70.0

75.0

80.0

85.0

90.0

95.0

Q1 01 Q2 01 Q3 01 Q4 01 Q1 02 Q2 02 Q3 02 Q4 02 Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

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BU NA

Quarterly Six months

(EUR mln) Q2 2004 Q1 2004%

change%

change* 2004 2003%

change%

change*

Total revenue 1,004 903 11.2 8.7 1,907 2,419 (21.2) (13.4)

Operating expenses 537 512 4.9 2.5 1,049 1,095 (4.2) 5.4

Operating result 467 391 19.4 16.9 858 1,324 (35.2) (28.9)

Provisioning loan losses 31 23 34.8 30.4 54 163 (66.9) (63.8)

Net profit 291 245 18.8 16.3 536 747 (28.2) (21.3)

Efficiency ratio 53.5% 56.7% 55.0% 45.3%

Staff (fte) 18,177 18,555 (2.0) 18,177 19,356 (6.1)

Risk-weighted assets (in bn)

* At constant forex rates

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BU NA non-mortgage businesses have picked up in the second quarter

438365 375

247189 183

929 960 915 890 9321031

0

200

400

600

800

1000

1200

Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

Revenues US mortgages Total revenues BU NA excl.mortgages

Revenues US mortgages and total revenues BU NA excl. mortgages (in mln USD)

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Increase in total commercial banking revenuesCommercial banking and total loan commitments (USD bn)

10%

15%

21

23

25

27

29

31

33

35

Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

44%

46%

48%

50%

52%

54%

56%

Total Loan Commitments (USD bn)

Net loans as % of total commitments

Q1 04 Q2 04

Commercial speciality banking

Corporate banking

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BU Brazil

Quarterly Six months

(EUR mln) Q2 2004 Q1 2004%

change%

change* 2004 2003%

change%

change*

Total revenue 476 473 0.6 2.7 949 784 21.0 25.9

Operating expenses 301 322 (6.5) (4.3) 623 483 29.0 33.7

Operating result 175 151 15.9 17.9 326 301 8.3 13.3

Provisioning loan losses 56 66 (15.2) (13.6) 122 128 (4.7) (2.3)

Net profit 87 58 50.0 22.4 145 57 154.4 133.3

Efficiency ratio 63.2% 68.1% 65.6% 61.6%

Staff (fte) 26,599 27,880 (4.6) 26,599 28,160 (5.5)

Risk-weighted assets (in bn) 8.5 8.5 0.0 8.5 7.8 9.0

* At constant forex rates

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-

2,000

4,000

6,000

8,000

10,000

12,000

14,000

16,000

H1 2003 H1 2004

Retail loans Banco Real Retail loans Sudameris

Lower interest rates in Brazil are leading to higher retail loan growthSelic interest rate (%) and retail loan growth (%)

14.7%

134.5%

10

12

14

16

18

20

22

24

26

28

Selic rate

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BU Brazil consumer finance: higher volumes offsetting lower spreadsProduction and average outstanding (BRL Bn) and monthly spreads (%)

0.9

1.0

1.1

1.2

1.3

1.4

1.5

Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

Production (l.a.) Spread (r.a.)

5.8

6.0

6.2

6.4

6.6

6.8

7.0

Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

Av erage outstanding (l.a.) Spread (r.a.)

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BU NGM

Quarterly Six months

(EUR mln) Q2 2004 Q1 2004%

change%

change* 2004 2003%

change%

change*

Total revenue 166 161 3.1 2.5 327 226 44.7 52.2

Operating expenses 104 98 6.1 6.1 202 167 21.0 25.7

Operating result 62 63 (1.6) (3.2) 125 59 111.9 127.1

Provisioning loan losses 7 5 40.0 40.0 12 (2)

Net profit 45 47 (4.3) (6.4) 92 44 109.1 125.0

Efficiency ratio 62.7% 60.9% 61.8% 73.9%

Staff (fte) 7,046 6,715 4.9 7,046 6,937 1.6

Risk-weighted assets (in bn) 6.5 6.5 0.0 6.5 6.0 8.3

* At constant forex rates

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Strong growth in Greater China and IndiaCredit cards in force and total clients in Greater China and India

510,000

750,000

956,000

50,000

233,000

327,000

0

200,000

400,000

600,000

800,000

1,000,000

Dec-02 Dec-03 Jun-04

Credit cards Greater China Credit cards India

500,000

675,000

750,065

338,000

635,000

773,162

0

100,000

200,000

300,000

400,000

500,000

600,000

700,000

800,000

Dec-02 Dec-03 Jun-04

Clients Greater China Clients India

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Bouwfonds

Quarterly Six months

(EUR mln) Q2 2004 Q1 2004 % change 2004 2003 % change

Total revenue 172 158 8.9 330 245 34.7

Operating expenses 67 59 13.6 126 110 14.5

Operating result 105 99 6.1 204 135 51.1

Provisioning loan losses 3 (2) 1 0

Net profit 82 69 18.8 151 89 69.7

Efficiency ratio 39.0% 37.3% 38.2% 44.9%

Staff (fte) 1,537 1,515 1.5 1,537 1,499 2.5

Risk-weighted assets (in bn) 21.0 20.2 4.0 21.0 19.7 6.6

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Bouwfonds will build further on its strong results by acquisition of MAB

On 15 July, Bouwfonds

announced the acquisition of

MAB Group BV

The activities of MAB will

become part of Bouwfonds

Property Development,

strengthening its position in

commercial property in general

and in the retail field in

particular

59

7683 82

99105

40

4955

50

69

82

0

20

40

60

80

100

120

Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

Operating result Net profit

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WCS

Quarterly Six months

(EUR mln) Q2 2004 Q1 2004%

change%

change* 2004 2003%

change%

change*

Total revenue 1,222 1,371 (10.9) (11.0) 2,593 2,442 6.2 8.1

Operating expenses 1,040 1,097 (5.2) (5.6) 2,137 2,083 2.6 4.5

Operating result 182 274 (33.6) (32.8) 456 359 27.0 29.0

Provisioning loan losses 10 30 (66.7) (66.7) 40 239 (83.3) (82.8)

Net profit 146 175 (16.6) (15.4) 321 90 256.7 263.3

Efficiency ratio 85.1% 80.0% 82.4% 85.3%

Staff (fte) 17,018 17,293 (1.6) 17,018 17,624 (3.4)

Risk-weighted assets (in bn) 72.6 69.8 4.0 72.6 61.6 17.9

* At constant forex rates

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Net profit WCS is in line but operating result is below our expectations

121

201207

219

114

245

264

281274

182

0

50

100

150

200

250

300

Q1 02 Q2 02 Q3 02 Q4 02 Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

Operating result

146

175163

134

110

-20

63

-44

-125

-188

17

-200

-150

-100

-50

0

50

100

150

200

Q1 02 Q2 02 Q3 02 Q4 02 Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

Net profit Net profit (excl. restructuring charge)

Net profit and operating result WCS (EUR mln)

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BU Private Clients

Quarterly Six months

(EUR mln) Q2 2004 Q1 2004%

change%

change* 2004 2003%

change%

change*

Total revenue 273 276 (1.1) (1.4) 549 447 22.8 23.7

Operating expenses 201 194 3.6 3.1 395 393 0.5 1.5

Operating result 72 82 (12.2) (12.2) 154 54 185.2 185.2

Provisioning loan losses 1 0 1 5 (80.0) (80.0)

Net profit 51 56 (8.9) (8.9) 107 36 197.2 197.2

Efficiency ratio 73.6% 70.3% 71.9% 87.9%

Staff (fte) 4,198 4,187 0.3 4,198 3,877 8.3

Risk-weighted assets (in bn) 7.3 7.1 2.8 7.3 6.0 21.7

Assets under adm. (in bn) 113 113 0.0 113 102 10.8

* At constant forex rates

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Revenues and AuA of BU PC stable q-o-q despite unfavourable market conditions

Revenues and Assets under Administration (AuA) BU Private Clients

Revenues 2003 are adjusted for the transfer of NGM France to BU PC

223

237 238

264276 273

100

150

200

250

300

Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

Revenues

94

98100

102

113 113

80

85

90

95

100

105

110

115

Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

Assets under Administration (EUR bn)

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BU Asset Management

Quarterly Six months

(EUR mln) Q2 2004 Q1 2004%

change%

change* 2004 2003%

change%

change*

Total revenue 136 144 (5.6) (6.3) 280 229 22.3 26.2

Operating expenses 106 106 0.0 (0.9) 212 188 12.8 16.0

Operating result 30 38 (21.1) (21.1) 68 41 65.9 73.2

Net profit 19 30 (36.7) (36.7) 49 28 75.0 82.1

Efficiency ratio 77.9% 73.6% 75.7% 82.1%

Staff (fte) 2,065 2,064 0.0 2,065 2,124 (2.8)

Assets under Man. (in bn) 166 166 0.0 166 156 6.4

* At constant forex rates

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Operating result down q-o-q in BU AM due to one-off in Q1 and weaker markets

Revenues and Assets under Management (AuM) BU Asset Management

148

154 156 156

166 166

100

110

120

130

140

150

160

170

Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

Assets under Management (EUR bn)

19

22

29 30

38

30

0

5

10

15

20

25

30

35

40

Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

Operating result

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Asset Quality, Capital and Interest rate Sensitivity

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Provisions down in Q2, mainly due to decrease in WCS, BU NL and BU Brazil

WCS provisions decreased due to releases as a result of conservative provisioning policy in previous years and continuing improvement of loan portfolio

Provisions in BU NL came down as a result of lower provisions in corporate loan portfolio

Provisions in BU Brazil decreased due to marked improvement of credit quality of consumer finance portfolio

Provisioning level for the group is expected to remain low in H2

Annualised provisions / RWA (%)

0.0%

0.5%

1.0%

2Q03 3Q03 4Q03 1Q04 2Q04

C&CC WCS ABN AMRO

SBUC&CCWCSPCAMTotal AA

Loan loss provisions per SBU (EUR mln)

2Q03

21783

2305

3Q03

20554

3304

4Q03

214106

1323

1Q04

16030

0195

2Q04

13910

1154

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New capital targets of Tier 1 ratio of 8.5% and Core Tier 1 of 7%Core Tier 1 and Tier 1 ratio (%)

4.59

4.23 4.214.47 4.51 4.61 4.53

4.92 4.965.24

5.46

5.91 5.91 6.01

6.826.55 6.47

7.03 7.13 7.157.00

7.48 7.407.63

7.79

8.15 8.27 8.33

4.00

5.00

6.00

7.00

8.00

9.00

Q1 01 Q2 01 Q3 01 Q4 01 Q1 02 Q2 02 Q3 02 Q4 02 Q1 03 Q2 03 Q3 03 Q4 03 Q1 04 Q2 04

Core Tier 1 Tier 1

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(1) : Ceteris paribus

We will neutralise the dilutive effect of the full year stock dividend Proceeds of sale of LeasePlan Corporation and Bank of

Asia will increase Tier 1 and Core Tier 1 ratio by 110 basis points(1)

We increase our targets to a Tier 1 ratio of 8.5% and a Core Tier 1 of 7%

We will neutralise the dilutive effect of the interim stock dividend once sales proceeds of LeasePlan have been received

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50 bp 100 bp

Volume Margin NII Volume Margin NII

Retail assets + 0 + 0 0 0

Retail liabilities + - 0 0 + +

Commercial assets 0 0 0 + 0 +

Commercial liabilities 0 - - 0 0 0

Investments Mgt - (-) Mgt + (+)

Interest Position Mgt + (+) Mgt - (-)

Overall 0/+ +

EUR interest rate sensitivity(12 months; EUR; base case = rates unchanged)

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USD interest rate sensitivity(12 months; USD; base case = rates unchanged)

50 bp 100 bp

NII NII

MSR’s

Origination

Balance sheet

-

++

-

0

-

0

Overall + -

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Outlook and Strategic Update

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2004 outlook

“Based on our performance in the first half and our

estimates for the second half of the year, we expect our

2004 operating result to be around that of 2003.

Retaining our full year net profit outlook for the BU North

America and for the Wholesale Clients SBU, we expect

an increase in our net profit of at least 10% for 2004

compared to last year (excluding the profit on the sale of

Bank of Asia and Leaseplan Corporation).”

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Substantial cost synergies can still be extracted across SBUs

All restructuring programmes to date concentrated on establishing BUs and on improving their returns

Group Shared Services was established in January 2004 with the objective to optimise cross-(S)BU cost synergies whilst maintaining operational excellence

Benchmarking against top-quartile Banks conducted on technology spending revealed significant potential. Additional sources of savings in procurement and HR

Current estimates point to at least EUR 500 mln annual savings from 2007 onwards

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69.4%

68.3%

71.9%

73.1%

71.5%

67.0%

0

3,000

6,000

9,000

12,000

15,000

18,000

21,000

1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003

63%

65%

67%

69%

71%

73%

75%

Revenue (EUR mln) Costs (EUR mln)

Efficiency ratio (%)

Revenue growth is equally critical to improving operating efficiency

Growth in commercial banking

revenues, especially in US and

Brazil, driven by economic

recovery and our relationship

approach

Growth in retail banking

revenues in Asia, due to rapid

growth of a consumer and

increasingly wealthy middle

class in India and Greater

China

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Our business mix can deliver satisfactory organic revenue growth

BU NL : increase cross-selling

to mass-affluent customers

BU NA : top ranking

commercial banking franchise

and market growth

BU Brazil : strong platform

geared for economic growth

NGM : fast development of the

mass-affluent retail franchises

PCAM : top quality brand

names and growth of onshore

market

WCS : Investments in FM and

WoCa - ROE up to 15%-20%

through the cycle

Cross-SBU synergies : 20

action tracks, 5 of which under

the direct responsibility of the

Managing Board

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Our strategy aims at further strengthening our C&CC business We are a multi-regional bank focused on consumer and

commercial banking, supported by our international wholesale franchise

Our strategy therefore aims at further strengthening our consumer and commercial banking franchises, to optimise our business mix

This can be achieved by a combination of organic growth and M&A

Focus is on accelerating organic growth in the US and in Asia

M&A deals will be value creating

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No acquisitions to be expected in Brazil and Europe

BU Brazil: No further acquisition needed or desired. After Sudameris, all Brazil needs is economic growth

Europe is unlikely to see any cross-border activity in the short-term

In Asia, organic growth in combination with acquisitions could accelerate the already rapid growth – The Indian franchise is building up quickly within limitations by

the regulatory framework

– In China, focus on Hong Kong and China

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Organic growth in the US is a valid strategic option

Our US franchise has a very strong position in the Midwest

The strength of the US franchise gives us the option not to join the current consolidation phase. The franchise has a defendable and sustainable market share. It is well positioned for organic growth in the coming years, especially with the expected pick up in the commercial banking cycle

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Long term, regional consolidation might require us to expand our US franchise

The core skill and value driver of the US franchise is commercial banking

In the long run, cost efficiencies derived from scale might be necessary to compete with super regional players in commercial and retail banking

Acquisitions in an adjacent state would strengthen our regional commercial banking franchise and deliver revenue and cost synergies

ABN AMRO will stick to its MfV principles as it has no reason to overpay for “strategic” considerations

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Share Buy-Backs are an option Excess capital is a new phenomenon for ABN AMRO

Unlike a number of other European players we started from a relatively low capital base

The Managing Board considers that its main task on behalf of ABN AMRO’s shareholders is long term value creation by investing capital in attractive growth opportunities

In accordance with our capital discipline and with the capital ratio targets, we will give capital back to our shareholders, if no value creating opportunities can be found