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Sutherland Traffic and Traffic Safety Committee Meeting

Friday, 03 November 2017

8:30 am

Committee Rooms 203 and 204

Level 2, Administration Building

4-20 Eton Street, Sutherland

Sutherland Traffic & Traffic Safety Committee Meeting 3 November 2017

ORDER OF BUSINESS

1. APOLOGIES

2. DISCLOSURES OF INTEREST

3. CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING

4. REPORT FROM OFFICERS

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Fowler Road, Illawong - Time limited parking restrictions at Hobart Place

Seabrook Avenue, Grays Point

Tharawal Lane, Waterfall - Parking restrictions

Minor Signposting and Linemarking - November 2017

Moreton Road, Wilbung Road and Osprey Drive, Illawong – Proposed linemarking

treatments

Hobart Place, Illawong - Parking Restrictions North of Fowler Road

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STR035-18 FOWLER ROAD, ILLAWONG - TIME LIMITED PARKING RESTRICTIONS AT HOBART PLACE

Attachments: Plan A

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

• Concerns have been expressed with parking on Fowler Road at Hobart Place, in the vicinity of

the Illawong Before and After School Care Centre. It is proposed to reduce the time limit and

provide more short duration parking outside the centre.

REPORT RECOMMENDATION

THAT:

1. A 24 metre long "1/4P 7am - 9.30am, 3pm - 6.30pm Monday to Friday" restriction be provided

on the southern side of Fowler Road near Hobart Place, in accordance with Plan 'A' attached

to the report.

2. The Authorised Officers be advised of this decision for enforcement purposes.


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LOCATION

Fowler Road, Illawong, at Hobart Place. Illawong Before & After School Care Centre.

REFERRAL TO COMMITTEE

Member of public (CR16-125491).

ISSUES

- Limited availability of short duration parking spaces.

- Drop-off / Pick-up of school children.

PREVIOUS CONSIDERATION BY COMMITTEE

On 02 August 2013 (STR019-14) the Traffic committee approved the installation of an 18 metre long

time limited parking zone with a 30 minute time limit.

COMMENTS FROM INVESTIGATING OFFICER

Council has received concerns amongst others with parking in the vicinity of the Illawong Before and

After School Care centre in Fowler Road, Illawong, at Hobart Place.

Investigations showed that the existing 30 minute time limit on the southern side of Fowler Road was

used by people with business at the nearby Illawong shopping centre. In August 2013 the Traffic

Committee approved these restrictions in order to create a dedicated drop-off and pick-up area for

parents/carers of young children attending the Illawong Before and After School Care Centre.

Consultation with the management of the centre showed that a reduced time limit would suit drop-off

and pick-up activity at the centre while making these parking spaces less attractive for business uses.

It is therefore proposed to reduce the time limit to 15 minutes and at the same time extend the zone to

a total length of 24 metres, providing an additional short duration parking space.

FINANCIAL / RESOURCE IMPLICATIONS

Fully funded in current budget.

LIST OF APPENDICES Plan A.

File Number: 2017/263071

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Time limits on signs: 7am - 9.30am, 3pm – 6.30pm Monday - Friday

Modification of existing time limited parking signs, as shown.

Existing stem

Move existing stem

Move one existing stem and install new “1/4P 7am - 9.30am, 3pm – 6.30pm Mon – Fri” signs.

Extend existing yellow line

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STR036-18 SEABROOK AVENUE, GRAYS POINT

Attachments: Plan A

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

• To improve traffic conditions and road safety for drivers and pedestrians, yellow 'no stopping'

edge lines be marked at the vehicle turning head at the southern end of Seabrook Avenue,

Grays Point.


THAT:

1. Yellow 'no stopping' edge lines be approved at the right angled turning head at the southern

end of Seabrook Avenue, Grays Point, in accordance with Plan 'A' attached to the report.

2. The Authorised Regulation officers be advised of this decision for enforcement purposes.


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LOCATION

Seabrook Avenue, off Greenhaven Rd, Grays Point.


Council's Waste Services Operational Controller CR17-212000.

ISSUES

Waste vehicles reversing over 280 metres due to a parked vehicle in the vehicle turning head.


No.

COMMENTS FROM INVESTIGATING OFFICER A review of the layout of this relatively narrow turning head at the southern end of Seabrook Avenue

has confirmed that drivers of large service vehicles and waste collection trucks would be unable to

turn around whenever there is a parked vehicle in the turning areas outside Nos. 51, 53 and 50.

As the provision of parking control signs on posts is considered unsightly and the subject reversing

distance of over 280 metres is totally unacceptable, it is recommended that yellow edge lines denoting

'No Stopping' restrictions be marked around this right angled turning head to clearly indicate to drivers

that parking during the day and overnight is prohibited at this particular location.

A consultation information letter has been delivered to the three residents directly adjacent to the

turning head seeking their comments on the proposal. Any comments will be tabled at the meeting.



LIST OF APPENDICES

Plan A.

File Number: 2017-263071

Seabrook Ave, off Greenhaven Rd, Grays Point.

Yellow ‘no stopping” edge lines.

PLAN A

Please mark yellow edge lines as shown.

80mm clear of lip line.

6.5m


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STR037-18 THARAWAL LANE, WATERFALL - PARKING RESTRICTIONS

Attachments: Plan A

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

• Council has received concerns with staggered parking on both sides of Tharawal Lane in

Waterfall, which obstructs other vehicles, particularly waste collection vehicles. It is proposed to

prohibit parking on the eastern side of the entire lane, as well as in some selected location on

the western side.


THAT:

1. 'No Parking' signs be approved at Tharawal Lane, Waterfall, in accordance with Plan 'A'

attached to the report.



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LOCATION

Tharawal Lane, Waterfall.


Councillor (CR17-186540).

ISSUES

- Staggered parking

- Obstruction of traffic.


No.


Council has received concerns with obstruction of vehicles travelling through Tharawal Lane when

vehicles are parked on both sides of the lane in a staggered fashion.

Investigations found that Tharawal Lane is a very narrow (5.0m wide) service lane. The lane provides

driveway access to properties backing onto the Princes Highway as well as those fronting Warabin

Street. Although a driver is permitted to travel in both directions along the lane, a "one-way" restriction

in the carpark next to the Waterfall tennis courts results in the only legal exit from Tharawal Lane to be

in a northbound direction onto Yanagang Street.

Due to the lane being two way it is an offence in terms of the Road Rules to park on the righthand

(eastern) side of the lane. Although most vehicles were found to park on the lefthand (western) side,

photographic evidence confirmed that vehicles often park on the opposite side. It is clear that,

although vehicles may be leaving 3 metres for other vehicles to pass, when parked vehicles are

staggered that it is often impossible to pass through the lane.

A proposal to prohibit parking on the eastern side of the lane was circulated to the affected residents.

Two responses were received, both in support, but requesting minor modifications. It was possible to

accommodate the request to improve delivery vehicle access to 1921 Princes Highway (local

business) by prohibiting parking for a short length on the western side of the lane opposite the

particular driveway. It was also possible to move a 'No Parking' sign to the boundary between 1933

Princes Highway and 5 Kooraban Street.

It is therefore proposed to prohibit parking along the eastern side of Tharawal Lane, as well as in

some selected locations on the western side of the lane as detailed in the attached Plan 'A'.



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LIST OF APPENDICES

Plan A.


THARAWAL LANE, WATERFALL PROPOSED ‘NO PARKING’ SIGNS ALONG EASTERN SIDE

No vehicular access to Kooraban Street

PLAN A

Install sign next to Telstra exchange fence

Paint yellow ‘No Stopping’ lines at intersection, 6m from driveways and 10m into lane.

Install sign next to white picket fence

One-Way


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STR038-18 MINOR SIGNPOSTING AND LINEMARKING - NOVEMBER 2017

Attachments: Plans E1 – E3, C1 – C7 and W1

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

• Proposed minor signposting and linemarking treatments.


THAT:

1. The recommendations listed in the Minor Signage Items table, be approved in accordance with

the attached Plans.

2. The Authorised Officers be advised of these decisions for enforcement purposes.


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CRMS No. Location Issue Request Recommendation Plan

CR17-214828 RDA17/1422

No.4 Uralba Ave, Caringbah

South

Application for

18m long 'Works

Zone' for 6

months.

Install 18 metre long

'Works Zone'.

E1

CR17-215382 Intersection of Balboa St &

Torres St, Kurnell

Restricted sight in

bend of roads

Install BB barrier lines &

raised pavement markers

at the bend of these two

streets

E2

CR-17-177037 Hume Rd & Elouera Rd, Cronulla

Illegal parking within 10m

Linemark yellow no stopping lines at this roundabout

E3

CR17-210051 Clio Street, Sutherland Parking across

layback

Reposition 2P sign & post

to the western side of

driveway entrance to

reserve.

C1

CR17-207698 Glencoe Street, Sutherland Illegal parking Mark yellow lines to

existing No Stopping signs.

C2

CR17-217865 No.446 The Boulevarde, Kirrawee

Cars parking directly adjacent to a Transdev 'Hail & Ride' Bus Stop sign

Install 'Bus Zone' signs outside No.446.

C3

CR17-216589 Crystal St at Sylvania Rd, Sylvania.

Potential vehicle conflicts at the entrance to Crystal Street.

Mark a 18m long double centreline adjacent to kerb extension.

C4

CR17-204658 Manchester Rd at View St and Houston St, Gymea.

Illegal parking within 10m of intersections.

Mark yellow lines at the

road junctions at View St

and Houston St.

C5

CR17-216283 Marina Cres, Gymea Bay. Narrow road. Mark 30m long double centreline at sharp curve.

C6

CR17-214840 Urunga Parade at Miranda Rd, Miranda

Illegal parking at corner restricting truck movements.

Installation of 'No Stopping' restrictions at corner.

C7

CR17-211859 Sutherland Road, Jannali, at

Jannali Oval carpark exit

Sight lines, high

traffic generator,

ineffective

treatment.

Remove yellow

linemarking and replace

with 'No Parking' signs

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URALBA AVE, CARINGBAH SOUTH WORK ZONE FOR No.4 Uralba Ave

PLAN E1

NEW SIGN ON NEW STEM

NEW SIGN ON EXISTING POWER POLE


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BALBOA STREET and TORRES STREET, KURNELL PROPOSED ‘BB BARRIER LINES”

PLAN E2

Centrally linemark BB barrier lines with raised pavement markers between southern end driveway #28 and 10m east from boundary line #30

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HUME ROAD and ELOUERA ROAD, CRONULLA PROPOSED ‘YELLOW LINES”

PLAN E3

Linemark yellow No Stopping lines along south eastern kerb at corner of Hume Rd & Elouera Rd as shown

Existing No Stopping signs


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CLIO STREET, SUTHERLAND

Relocation of 2P sign & post.

PLAN C1

Reposition 2P(R) sign to the western side of driveway entrance to playground area.

ISSUES:

Parking across gateway to playground area within park. High parking demand by railway commuters and employees.


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C1

Glencoe Street, North of The Grand Parade, Sutherland

Yellow Line markings.

ISSUE:

Cars illegally parking in existing ‘No Stopping” zone

CR17‐181372

PLAN C2

Please mark 15m yellow edge lines on western and eastern sides of

road from existing NS signs towards the concrete pavement

as shown.

80mm clear of lip line

The Grand Parade


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C2

The Boulevarde, west of Bath Road, Kirrawee.

Provision of Bus Zone signs at existing Bus Stop.

ISSUES:

High on-street parking demand in Industrial area. Bus drivers currently stopping on road adjacent to parked cars.

Please install “Bus Zone (L)” sign on new post 2m east

of driveway.

Please install new BZ(R) sign & post

2m east of driveway.

Plan C3

Existing Yellow on Blue Hail & Ride Bus Stop sign on

power pole.


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Crystal Street at Sylvania Rd, Sylvania.

Proposed Double Centreline.

ISSUES:

Narrow entrance to side road adjacent to kerb extension. Drivers turning left into Crystal Street tend to veer into the eastbound travel lane.

PLAN C4

Proposed 18 metre long double centreline 1.2m

west of the prolongation of kerb in Sylvania Rd.

Centre of road.

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Manchester Road at Houston St and View St, Gymea.

“Yellow Edge Line & ‘No Stopping’ sign.

Issues:

Illegal parking within 10m of Houston Rd. Limited vision to the north from Houston Rd. Illegal parking in existing ‘No Stopping' zones at View St.

PLAN C5

Please mark yellow edge lines to deter

illegal parking.

80mm clear of lip

Please install a ‘No Stopping (R)’

sign on power pole.

Truck access point to stormwater trash collection device.

16m

10m

15m

12m

10m

15m

Existing ‘No Stopping’

signs at View St.


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C5

Marina Crescent, south of Nulgarra Ave, Gymea.

Proposed double centreline.

ISSUES:

Driver vision is restricted by the curve in the road. Report of motorists travelling on the wrong side of the road at the curve.

PLAN C6

Please mark a 30 metre long double centreline

from Nulgarra Ave.


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C6

Urunga Parade, Miranda.

Proposed “No Stopping” zone at Miranda Rd.

Issues:

Large trucks with trailers turning left into Miranda Rd.

10m

Plan C7

Please install ‘No Stopping’

signs as shown.

11m

Signs installed mid Oct. 2017


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SUTHERLAND ROAD, JANNALI at JANNALI OVAL CARPARK PROPOSED ‘NO PARKING’ SIGNS

Issues: Yellow edge lines, 12m to the north and 6m to the south of the “Exit” driveway, approved on 05-05-2017

(STR114-17, Plan W1) While yellow lines are fairly well understood to denote ‘No Stopping’ at intersections, at driveways their use is

problematic.

Install ‘No Parking’ signs 12m to the north and 6m to the south of the “Exit” driveway, as shown. Thereafter, remove the yellow lines by grinding

PLAN W1 Sutherland Traffic and Traffic Safety Committee 3 November 2017

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STR039-18 MORETON ROAD, WILBUNG ROAD AND OSPREY DRIVE, ILLAWONG - PROPOSED LINEMARKING TREATMENTS

Attachments: Plan A and Plan B

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

• Provide linemarking treatments at the intersection of Moreton Road and Northbrook Place, and

dividing (separation) lines in Wilbung Road and Osprey Drive.


THAT:

1. That the following treatments be provided:

(a) Centreline marking in Osprey Drive between Fowler Road and Wilbung Road.

(b) Centreline treatment in Wilbung Road between Osprey Drive and Moreton Road.

(c) TB Holding line and edgeline and no stopping line treatments in Moreton Road at

Northbrook Place.

(d) advanced curve warning sign on the eastbound approach to Northbrook Place in

accordance with Plan 'A' and Plan 'B' attached to the report.



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LOCATION

Moreton Road, Wilbung Road and Osprey Drive, Illawong.


Arising from previous endorsement by Consultative Traffic Committee (CTF006-18).

ISSUES

• Recent fatal motor vehicle crash.

• Speed and volume of traffic.


Yes, on 06-10-2017 (CTF006-18)


On 06-10-2017 The Consultative Traffic Forum recommended treatments at the intersection of

Moreton Road and Northbrook Place, Illawong, and along Osprey Drive and Wilbung Road.

Although instructions have been issued for the implementation of the recommendations of the

COnsultative Traffic Forum, all regulatory linemarking needs to be approved by the Sutherland Traffic

and Traffic Safety Committee.




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Paint C3 yellow linemarking for ‘No Stopping’, as shown, 10 metres, unless otherwise indicated

Paint E1 edge lines, offset 1 metre from face of kerb

Paint TB/TB1 Give Way lines, as shown

Install ‘sharp curve’ warning sign approximately 55m west of Northbrook Place, as shown.


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OSPREY DRIVE and WILBUNG ROAD, ILLAWONG PROPOSED DIVIDING SEPARATION and BARRIER LINES

Paint S1 Dividing (Separation) lines and BB Dividing (Barrier) lines as shown

PLAN B

Provide the S1 lines in the middle of road to create two equal lanes

Provide 12m lengths of BB lines at the intersection

Provide 12m lengths of BB lines at the intersection


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STR040-18 HOBART PLACE, ILLAWONG - PARKING RESTRICTIONS NORTH OF FOWLER ROAD

Attachments: Plan A

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

• Concerns have been expressed with safety exiting the driveway of an apartment building at

No.65 Hobart Place due to obstruction to sight lines caused by parked vehicles. It is proposed

to extend existing parking restrictions to prohibit parking between the driveway and Fowler

Road.


THAT:

1. 'No Parking' signs be approved at Hobart Place, Illawong, north of Fowler Road, in

accordance with Plan 'A' attached to the report.


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LOCATION

Hobart Place, Illawong, north of Fowler Road. Driveway of apartment building at No.65 Hobart Place.


Councillor (CR17-195027).

ISSUES

• Obstructed sight lines

• Opposing bus and heavy vehicle movements.


- On 01 November 2013 (STR062-14) the Traffic Committee approved 'No Stopping' restrictions

at the intersection of Fowler Road and Hobart Place.

- On 02 September 2016 (STR028-17) the Traffic Committee approved 'No Parking' restrictions

across the driveway of No.65 Hobart Place.

COMMENTS FROM INVESTIGATING OFFICER Concerns have been expressed with the risk of exiting the driveway of the apartment building at No.65

Hobart Place due to obstruction of sight lines caused by parked vehicles in Hobart Place, between

Fowler Road and the driveway.

Investigations found a long standing recommendation by a traffic engineer as part of the development

approval process that parking should be prohibited from the apartment building driveway to the south,

towards Fowler Road. This recommendation was not included in the conditions of consent and hence

was not implemented as part of the frontage design of the apartment building development.

On 01 November 2013, during construction of the apartment building, the Committee approved a

number of parking restrictions in the vicinity. Amongst other restrictions, 'No Stopping' restrictions were

implemented at the intersection of Fowler Road and Hobart Place. These restrictions were longer

than the standard 10 metres in Hobart Place so as to address issues with bus and heavy vehicle

manoeuvres.

On 02 September 2016 the Traffic Committee approved 'No Parking' restrictions across the driveway

in order to improve the swept path of vehicles entering the apartment building parking garage.



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It is also important to note that due to the number of apartments and on-site parking spaces, the

driveway could be considered to have a traffic volume comparable to an intersection. In addition,

Hobart Place is a bus route, where all buses travel in a clockwise direction along Hobart Place,

passing the driveway under consideration from north to south. Hobart Place also serves as the

delivery access to the Illawong neighbourhood shopping centre, passing the driveway from south to

north. It has been reported that opposing buses and heavy vehicles obstruct the flow of each other,

resulting in dangerous reversing movements.

The proposal to remove two parking spaces was originally requested by one owner and requires going

against current policy to implement. After further consideration and a site visit, it was agreed that with

a stronger mandate and consultation regarding the lost parking, action could proceed. A proposal to

prohibit the remaining parking south of the driveway towards Fowler Road was circulated to residents

of the apartment building and houses directly opposite. A petition in support signed by 38 residents of

the apartment building and three residents of houses directly opposite was received. A single

objection was received from No. 72 Hobart Place, however the safety benefits outweigh the

inconvenience expected from this change.

It is therefore proposed to extend the existing parking restrictions to prohibit parking from the driveway

of No.65 Hobart Place to the intersection of Fowler Road. This will result in the loss of two on-street

parking spaces.






HOBART PLACE, ILLAWONG NORTH of FOWLER ROAD PROPOSED ‘NO PARKING’ SIGNS

Install ‘No Parking’ signs, as shown

PLAN A

Existing ‘No Parking’ (arrow left) sign

Replace existing ‘No Parking’ (arrow right) sign with ‘No Parking’ (double arrow) sign

Install ‘No Parking’ (arrow right) sign on same stem as existing ‘No Stopping’ sign

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